WW small game: James Bond - Goldfinger (Game Over)

[Alan T]

British Intelligence has received information from the Bank of England that a gold dealer named Auric Goldfinger has been recently stockpiling suspiciously large amounts of gold bullion. After further investigation, it has been learned that solely stockpiling gold is not his only plan, but instead he has far more sinister intentions. If Auric Goldfinger's evil scheme called "Operation Grand Slam" is successful, he will be able to entirely destroy Fort Knox and wreck the world's economy.

You and your fellow agents have been issued orders to hunt down Auric Goldfinger and his henchmen and prevent his plan from succeeding. Will you be in time to save the world's economy? To make matters worse, British Intelligence states that somehow Auric was able to get his hands on a list of current agent numbers. He'll know how many are out there looking for him!

GM note: The story for this game is loosely taken from the James Bond stories. Relying entirely or in part on the actual stories or movies to gain information would be counter-productive and possibly harmful in your game analysis. Some things possibly have been changed to better fit the game mechanics.

[Alan T]

Winning Conditions:

Secret Agents - The secret agents win the game when they have completely rid themselves of Auric Goldfinger and his henchmen.

Auric Goldfinger and Henchmen - Auric Goldfinger and his henchmen win when they achieve a 1 to 1 ratio with remaining secret agents and are able to complete your dastardly plans.

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Game Schedule:

The game will consist of 2 game periods. The Daytime period which will run from 9:00am EST until the deadline of 9:00pm EST each night between Monday and Friday. The Nighttime period will run from 9:00pm EST until the deadline of 9:00am EST each night between Monday and Friday. The weekend schedule will be stated at the time based on popular choice.

Any actions that occur outside of their proper schedule (votes before or after the day period, or night actions sent in during the day) will not count without prior approval. If for some reason you need to submit a vote or action outside of the normal schedule, please PM me and we will work out the best possible solution if needed.

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Game Roles

Agent 007 (James Bond) - You are the best of the secret agents and thus have a knack for learning information through all sorts of means. Each night you may scan one other person to learn if they are an evil henchmen or a fellow secret agent.

Auric Goldfinger - You are the evil mastermind, always managing to stay one step ahead of Britain's finest. Each night you may choose one of your henchmen to kill a secret agent. You may also choose to do the job yourself as well. You may also choose to not perform any night kill in an attempt to create suspicion.

Oddjob - You are one of Auric Goldfinger's henchmen. You don't have any job other than carrying out Auric Goldfinger's commands. You may communicate with Auric Goldfinger via PMs during the game. In the case of Auric's death, you obtain the ability to dictate who the night kill will be each evening.

Ms. Galore - You are not one of Auric Goldfinger's henchmen, however you are sympathetic to their cause. For game purposes, you will show up as an agent if James Bond scans you and you count as an agent in regards to the overall 1 to 1 agent vs henchmen game ratio. You will not win however with the agents, and in fact your winning condition relies on Auric Goldfinger and his henchmen winning. You know who Auric Goldfinger and his henchmen are in this game however you are not allowed to PM with them. They do not know who you are.

Secret Agents - Each of you are given a special number. Being a secret agent however is tough work and requires some level of discrescion.

Bodyguard - Randomly assigned to one of the secret agents, each night you may choose one player to protect. If you protect the target for the night kill, you will prevent the night kill from happening but will not learn any other information about the attacker. If you protect the player designated to perform the night kill, you will not learn any information about them however the night kill will not be able to be performed that evening. You may not choose to protect the same player two nights in a row, however you may choose to protect yourself if you desire.

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Daytime period:

Each daytime period, all remaining players in the game will be called upon to place a vote. The player receiving the most votes will be sent at the end of the day back to England where they will receive intense interrogation. They will be removed from the game at that point and their role will be revealed.

In the case of a tie with the voting, those who are tied will have their tie broken based on the oldest standing vote (based on post number). In cases of Unvotes and then revotes for the same candidate, the newer post number will be used.

When placing your vote, please Bold your votes such as:

Vote Alan T

or

Unvote Alan T

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Night period actions:

Many, but not all of the roles have night period actions that are to be submitted to me before the night deadline of 9:00am EST. At the end of the night period, James Bond will receive a PM with the information that he found the previous night. The Henchman who was performing the night kill will also receive a PM with the results of their actions. With the morning writeup following each night period the role of any dead player will be revealed.

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Disclaimer:

I reserve the right to post additional rules, or modify the rules, roles or occupations at any time to fix game imbalances. If there are any questions about the rules, or needs for clarifications, please feel free to post in the thread, or privately via PM at any time for more information. I also reserve the right however to keep certain things hidden during the game to improve game playability.

[Alan T]

Player Sign ups: (10 player max)

1. Path12
2. DaddyTorgo
3. Barkeep49 - Killed Night 2 - Agent 000
4. Lonestargirl
5. Chief Rum
6. Dodgerchick - Arrested Day 1 - Agent 006
7. Blade
8. Dubb - Arrested Day 2 - Agent 001
9. Fouts
10. Lathum - Killed Night 1 - Agent 009 (Bodyguard)

Game Start (http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com//forums/showthread.php?p=1336644#post1336644)
Day 1 (http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com//forums/showthread.php?p=1337582#post1337582)
Night 1 (http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com//forums/showthread.php?p=1337725#post1337725)
Day 2 (http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com//forums/showthread.php?p=1338376#post1338376)
Night 2 (http://fof.sportplanet.gamespy.com//forums/showthread.php?p=1338593#post1338593)

[Alan T]

Rules and story posted as well as signup list. I'll take signups until either Sunday or once we get 10 players (whichever happens first).

Regardless of when we get the players by, we will not begin the game until roles are sent out on Sunday and Day 1 will end Monday evening at 9pm EST.

If people would like to sign up as an alternate either before or after we reach the max 10 people, I will place you on the list at any point.

[Alan T]

Bah, and I just realized I'll ruin my exact 1000 posts when I post a thread on the main forums to announce the game. :)

[path12]

Put me down, but I'd be happy to give it up to a newer player if necessary.

[path12]

Bah, and I just realized I'll ruin my exact 1000 posts when I post a thread on the main forums to announce the game. :)

Just delete the thread after you fill the game..... ;)

[DaddyTorgo]

what path said...I am in but happy to give up my spot for a newer player if need be.

[Barkeep49]

Early deaths mean I get to play in all the games, large and small. Sign me up.

[SnDvls]

Early deaths mean I get to play in all the games, large and small. Sign me up.

I'm glad you finally joined me in this :)

[LoneStarGirl]

I have decided i will only play in small games. So sign me up for this one

[path12]

I have decided i will only play in small games. So sign me up for this one

How come?

[LoneStarGirl]

Because I can't be online as much as most people who play. And its easier to catch up on 2 pages than 5 like I have been doing with the muskateers game

[Fouts]

Going to pass, unless you have trouble finding enough players. I think I may be overexposed lately in these games.

[Chief Rum]

I'm in. Sounds like fun.

[Chief Rum]

I'm glad you finally joined me in this :)

So are you saying you're in, SnDvls? Because if that's what you intended, Alan hasn't counted you yet.

[Lorena]

In

[Blade6119]

and with DC in, im in

[SnDvls]

sorry I was a little confusing in my post.

I'm not in I have too many family members coming into town for the holidays and they are staying at my house so I'llhave to pass on this one.

hope that clears it up some.

[Alan T]

Small game note. Sorry for already making a rule change, but the following modifications have been made:

The following line has been removed from the role description for agents in the rules:

You are never allowed to give out your number during the game. If you ever state that you are Agent 004 for example, the henchmen will instantly kill you and remove you from the game.

And the following line has been added to the storyline:

To make matters worse, British Intelligence states that somehow Auric was able to get his hands on a list of current agent numbers. He'll know how many are out there looking for him!

This simply means the bad guys will start with a list of what agent numbers are in the game and which are available, which could be used for fake reveals. I originally wanted a mechanism in place to prevent people from just coming out and saying oh I'm agent so and so, and quickly eliminating all of the bad guys. This change is just a different way of handling that to my preference.

[path12]

Auric Goldfinger - You are the evil mastermind, always managing to stay one step ahead of Britain's finest. Each night you may choose one of your henchmen to kill a secret agent. You may also choose to do the job yourself as well. You may also choose to not perform any night kill in an attempt to create suspicion.

Quick question on the bolded part. Is that an actual action that causes suspicion to fall on a player? I don't understand in a short game why no kill would be a beneficial thing or create suspicion since I don't see a jailing option or anything like that.

[Alan T]

Quick question on the bolded part. Is that an actual action that causes suspicion to fall on a player? I don't understand in a short game why no kill would be a beneficial thing or create suspicion since I don't see a jailing option or anything like that.

Nope, no artificial suspicion is created other than the discussion of why there was no night kill. This just allows a non-action as an option if so choosing.

[path12]

Nope, no artificial suspicion is created other than the discussion of why there was no night kill. This just allows a non-action as an option if so choosing.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll say that if I was Goldfinger, there will be no nights off for my henchmen!!

[Chief Rum]

Hope we get some more players. I am looking forward to giving this one a shot.

[Alan T]

Hope we get some more players. I am looking forward to giving this one a shot.

This game is fine with 8-10, if we get 1 more we will be fine. Its just limited at 10.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I would love to get in this game, but the schedule just doesn't work for me. I'm leaving town on the 21st and while I'd probably be killed before then, I don't want to risk it.

[Blade6119]

hoops maybe? hes dead now too

[Alan T]

Friday bump before the weekend. Would like 1 more at least, got room for 3 more.

[Fouts]

Put me down as an alternate. If you need me to reach 10, then I'll play.

[Lathum]

Alan, I can play if you need one more but I will be leaving town next Thursday with limited access until after the new year.

[dubb93]

If there is room I'll play, but Sunday is a very bad for me with a family get together that day. Hopefully if the game is starting Sunday, the deadline is not until Monday night? If so and there is room I'll play.

[Alan T]

If there is room I'll play, but Sunday is a very bad for me with a family get together that day. Hopefully if the game is starting Sunday, the deadline is not until Monday night? If so and there is room I'll play.

The roles will go out sunday night and I'll start the game then. Probably between 8pm and 10pm EST Sunday night. The first night's deadline is 10pm EST on monday night, so you should be just fine.

Lathum, Fouts and Hoops all stated they'd play if I needed another body. I don't "need" another body per say, so don't have any of you three on the signup list. If any of you (or anyone else) wants to play anyways though, just sign up before tommorrow night. THere is two spots left for anyone interested.

[Fouts]

Go ahead and add me.

[Lathum]

go ahead and add me as well

[Alan T]

This game's roles are being assigned by random.org. PMs should go out to everyone in the next 2-3 hours with your role.

PM's will basically look like this:

Your side: Good or Evil
Your agent number: (if good)
Other special information about your role:

[Alan T]

You have received the briefing on your new mission. Word has it that three agents of British Intelligence failed to report in after trailing a gold dealer by the name of Auric Goldfinger. The only information you have received is that his evil plan named "Operation Grand Slam" must be stopped. You set out immediately in search of the trail in hopes of finding some sign of him.

The game has officially started. Day 1 will end at 9:00pm EST Monday Night.

[DaddyTorgo]

PM received. checking in and ready to hunt Goldfinger.

[LoneStarGirl]

PM recieved... is it bad that I have never watched a James bond movie?

[DaddyTorgo]

PM recieved... is it bad that I have never watched a James bond movie?


not for purposes of the game, but for purposes of being a human being, yeah :mad:

[Lorena]

Got my PM

[Lorena]

Actually, I've never seen a James Bond movie either :o

[Blade6119]

00 checking in, ready to kick some ass, and score some i suppose

[DaddyTorgo]

lol. i don't even know who's playing in this game i just realized. gonna check!

[DaddyTorgo]

long as it's not scoring with Ms. Galore I'm good with the scoring part. Wanna be my wingman Blade?

[Barkeep49]

I'm ready to go. I've got the lamest 00 name ever.

[Chief Rum]

Just read my PM and checking in. Diggin' it.

I'll take my martini...well, you know.

[Barkeep49]

No Chief, I don't know. How will you take it?

[Chief Rum]

No Chief, I don't know. How will you take it?

Shaken, not stirred. :)

[LoneStarGirl]

I want to lynch daddytorgo day one because he is getting too good at being evil.

[Fouts]

I'm ready to go. I've got the lamest 00 name ever.

Interesting. I am a 00 and I wasn't given a name. Hmmm, which of us is lying.

[Chief Rum]

Interesting. I am a 00 and I wasn't given a name. Hmmm, which of us is lying.

Hmm, good point. I didn't get a name either. What you talkin' about, BK?

[DaddyTorgo]

I want to lynch daddytorgo day one because he is getting too good at being evil.

that would be a very bad idea, as you would soon see.

[DaddyTorgo]

I didn't get a name either. Just a 00x.

[Chief Rum]

that would be a very bad idea, as you would soon see.

Well, wouldn't it be the safe thing to do, though? :D

Poor DT, he has been type cast.

[DaddyTorgo]

Well, wouldn't it be the safe thing to do, though? :D

Poor DT, he has been type cast.

safe thing yes. good thing no.

[Blade6119]

long as it's not scoring with Ms. Galore I'm good with the scoring part. Wanna be my wingman Blade?

No, but you can be mine :p

[Chief Rum]

I will be out most of the day tomorrow, as usual. I will return shortly before the deadline (hopefully, and put a vote in), then I should be around to discuss the day's events, should I still live.

God save the Queen.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll be out from 11-7:30pm EST tomorrow for a lovely day of work.

with the nothing that's gone on so far right now and the randomness of day 1 votes, i don't feel bad placing a Day 1 vote at least as a placeholder right now, especially with a tiny shred of some sort of evidence.

VOTE BARKEEP

[Barkeep49]

00 name, double oh number. Let's not get caught up in semantics here boys (since Dodger hasn't participated in this silliness). If it makes you feel better I have the lamest 00 number ever.

[Lorena]

Well, a vote has to be made and since it's day 1 and the only thing we have to go on is Barkeep's "slipup", then so be it:

Vote Barkeep

[Barkeep49]

Let's do a little history lesson. Last game I slipped up as well and was killed Day 1. Except I was the seer. I am certainly not the seer this game, but the idea that I slipped up again, is a little silly.

[Barkeep49]

I'm going to be out for a good bit of the day, though I will be home again some before lynch. However voting for the first person to cast a second vote, especially if that second vote is THE second vote, seems like a solid day 1 vote so I'll

Vote Dodgerchick

[LoneStarGirl]

I totally agree with Barkeep, the first person to vote second is usually hiding. And we did learn that Barkeep makes a lot of mistakes last game, so lets not hang him for it yet.

vote dodgerchick

subject to change if something comes up

[path12]

I don't know if I'm even alive still or not, I've been without power since Thursday night. I've got to get a couple things done here at work then will start catching up, but just wanted to check in.

[Lathum]

I just don't understand Barkeeps screw up. What could be so dumb about a number?

vote barkeep

[Lorena]

I totally agree with Barkeep, the first person to vote second is usually hiding. And we did learn that Barkeep makes a lot of mistakes last game, so lets not hang him for it yet.

vote dodgerchick

subject to change if something comes up

lol, if that's the case,

unvote barkeep
vote lonestargirl

[Lorena]

interesting that you're voting for me because I placed the second vote, yet you place the second vote on me LSG. Are you sure it isn't YOU that's hiding?

[path12]

It's a pretty light reason for a vote, but day 1 I've gone with worse reasons:

VOTE BARKEEP

[Blade6119]

I refuse to vote for barkeep here, because i think he told us his role and we cant afford to lose it.

[DaddyTorgo]

interesting. glad to see that I have sparked a little discussion at least. as well as a catfight!! woohoo!!

fwiw I would unvote barkeep at this point likely and vote a quiet player probably but we all know my phone doesn't bold

although...

UNVOTE BARKEEP

lets see if that works. vote to come later (home in 2.5 or less)

[Lathum]

I refuse to vote for barkeep here, because i think he told us his role and we cant afford to lose it.

what are you talking about? Seems like this may be an attempt to get an early role reveal.

[Blade6119]

VOTE PATH12

If barkeep is who i think, the bad guys wouldnt want to be one of the first to vote him. So a pile-on at the end makes sense...and path did just that

[Lathum]

ahhhh. I think I see what blade is getting at.

unvote barkeep

[Blade6119]

what are you talking about? Seems like this may be an attempt to get an early role reveal.

Look at the roles, do any of the roles fit his description?

More to the point, do any have and 00 and a name like he stated?

I saw that when he claimed it and asked myself why would a bad guys fake reveal that role on day 1. They cant afford 1-1 this early...then barkeep said this:
Let's do a little history lesson. Last game I slipped up as well and was killed Day 1. Except I was the seer. I am certainly not the seer this game, but the idea that I slipped up again, is a little silly.
That seems like a hint to me.

We have a bodyguard, so the chess game starts tonight...maybe im wrong, but it seems like he told us who he is and we cant afford to lynch that role. For reference, his post that everyone is uppity over:I'm ready to go. I've got the lamest 00 name ever.

[Lathum]

vole LSG

Lets keep it close...

[Lathum]

so Blade, are you saying barkeep is the bodyguard?

[Blade6119]

so Blade, are you saying barkeep is the bodyguard?

No, not at all...was i not clear, becuase short of telling you what i think his role is i thought i said everything i could...apparently not...

Just go back and read the special roles in the game...if you reach the evil roles, you have read too far. Hows that for a hint?

[Lathum]

Sorry Blade, I think you are seeing something that's not there...

[Blade6119]

Sorry Blade, I think you are seeing something that's not there...

In regards to his hint or the part of the rules i directed you to?

[Lathum]

Vote Count

BArkeep 1 ( Path)
Dodgerchick 2 ( Barkeep, LSG)
LSG 2 ( Dodgerchick, LAthum)
Path 1 ( Blade)

[Lathum]

In regards to his hint or the part of the rules i directed you to?

In your regards to what Barkeep may be hinting at. I am considering switching my vote back to him but I want to hear from him first.

[Lathum]

still waiting on Fouts, Dubb and chief rum

[Barkeep49]

I thought long and hard before I posted about whether the post would be taken as a hint that I have a role. I don't. I am just an agent and a lame one at that. If the bad guys went after me thinking I really did have a role I'd actually take that as a moral victory since it'll have protected some more important good guy roles.

And let's back-up. Something is ONLY a slipup if it later shows that I was guilty. So last game when I mentioned wolf? That was somehow a mistake? We're not supposed to say the word during games? That's why I was lynched. I think the idea that my saying the word wolf was an indication that I mess up is poor.

In this game I would argue that my name is my 00 agent number. People call bond 007. It's his name. I said my 00 name was lame. It is. I think all this talk about me has been an unhelpful d1 diversion, frankly.

[LoneStarGirl]

Barkeep, people just like picking on you :)

[path12]

Sorry Blade, I think you are seeing something that's not there...

I think so also, but since I don't want to "pile on",

UNVOTE BARKEEP
VOTE BLADE

Better? :p

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep, people just like picking on you :)
Yes they do :).

[LoneStarGirl]

To prove no hard feelings to dodger and avoid a cat fight... ;)

unvote dodgerchick

[dubb93]

In this game I would argue that my name is my 00 agent number. People call bond 007. It's his name. I said my 00 name was lame. It is. I think all this talk about me has been an unhelpful d1 diversion, frankly.

I fail to see how a 00 name could be lame? It is just a number :confused:

Am I missing something here?

[LoneStarGirl]

Dubb, I see what everybody is getting at, but I dont want to make the same mistake we did last game.

[Lorena]

If the bad guys went after me thinking I really did have a role I'd actually take that as a moral victory since it'll have protected some more important good guy roles.

In all my games as a normal villager, I never thought of my death this way. Thanks, I'll remember that next time.

[Lorena]

Dubb, I see what everybody is getting at, but I dont want to make the same mistake we did last game.

Mind giving me a summary? I only got to read the last few pages.

[Barkeep49]

In all my games as a normal villager, I never thought of my death this way. Thanks, I'll remember that next time.
I don't always think of my death this way. But in this game I would. One needs to find moral victories where they can as a villager since I think dying as a villager means losing the game.

[LoneStarGirl]

Mind giving me a summary? I only got to read the last few pages.

Dodgerchick, was that sarcastic? I am not used to that out of you. :D

[Barkeep49]

Mind giving me a summary? I only got to read the last few pages.

Dodgerchick, was that sarcastic? I am not used to that out of you. :D

I started to type out a summary, before I realized I had been stung by Dodger's razor sharp wit.

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh damn, you ment the last few pages of the Lady of Rochelle game.... its a Monday and I should have known DC would not be sarcastic.

Anyway, without going into details, primarily because I can't remember most of them, Barkeep 'slipped up' with his words and got lynched VERY early in the game. Turns out, he was the Seer. Now we just have to realize that BK messes up a lot, so dont hold it against him. :)

[LoneStarGirl]

I dont know if DC even realized she had razor sharp wit ;)

[Barkeep49]

Oh damn, you ment the last few pages of the Lady of Rochelle game.... its a Monday and I should have known DC would not be sarcastic.

Anyway, without going into details, primarily because I can't remember most of them, Barkeep 'slipped up' with his words and got lynched VERY early in the game. Turns out, he was the Seer. Now we just have to realize that BK messes up a lot, so dont hold it against him. :)
Actually let's backup. I was killed in the two lives game on Day 1 because I mentioned the word wolf. That caused a stampede of votes against me as I was the first to use the word. I was then killed a night later by the wolves who were my teammates at that point.

In the La Rochelle game I had no slipups. I was targeted for a night kill, however someone had sent me a lady of the night and thus I was awake enough to take my attacker out before my attacker shot me.

I would argue in neither game did I slip up, though I did get lynched D1 in the last small game as the seer.

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh sorry Barkeep, I couldn't remember which game it was. You are in so many you know

[LoneStarGirl]

Anyway, right now I am looking at Blade and Barkeep... and possibly Lathum for his 'lets keep it close' throw away vote. But I don't want to vote yet because I need to see what the 3 boys do. I hate to pull out the self preservation card this early in the game

[Barkeep49]

My vote's staying where it is and I'm off to basketball.

[path12]

Well, I guess my vote is staying where it is. If by some amazing chance I have power at home you'll hear from me, otherwise I'll be back in the morning.

I expect the latter. Doesn't sound like I'm getting power again until Tuesday.

[Lathum]

LSG, how on earth was my vote a "throw away vote" There would have been a tie no matter what I did, I hardley call that a throw away?

Please tell me why you look at it as a throw away.

And you can't dispute the fact that in a small game we get tons of information from a close vote..

[Lorena]

I dont know if DC even realized she had razor sharp wit ;)

Haha smart ass, you too Barkeep.

LSG, are you trying to butter me up so I move my vote on to someone else? And yes, for the record, I meant the Rochelle game.

[LoneStarGirl]

DC, I am not trying to butter you up. I am just bored at home while Tim is working. So all my attention is focused on WereWolf and nobody is really online.
And Lathum the reason I said I was concerned about you is when DC was second to vote for somebody, I voted for her. When I was second to vote, she voted for me, now you are second to vote for somebody.... not a good trend here

[Lorena]

Well, I'm off to the grocery store. I think it's LSG and I are tied at 2 votes each so out of self preservation, I'm leaving it where it is. Hopefully I survive the day, but if I die, oh well, no big loss.

[dubb93]

With nowhere to really go I'll go the route Barkeep went and vote the first person to throw out a second vote on someone(and it was the second vote of the day even), which in small games I could see be a bad guy attempting to start a bandwagon. Again, it sucks, but it is day 1

VOTE DODGERCHICK

[DaddyTorgo]

home

[Lorena]

Oh yay, everyone on the bandwagon!! Giddy up horsie, we're riding off the cliff!!

[LoneStarGirl]

Haha DC. You started it my dear. I have to go in 7 minutes so I guess ill be voting soon. Where is Fouts and Chief?

[LoneStarGirl]

Vote total

Dodgerchick - Barkeep, Dubb
LSG - Dodgerchick, lathum
Path - Blade
Blade - Path

Daddy, LSG, Fouts, Cheif need to vote

[DaddyTorgo]

huh...interesting.

[Lathum]

DC, I am not trying to butter you up. I am just bored at home while Tim is working. So all my attention is focused on WereWolf and nobody is really online.
And Lathum the reason I said I was concerned about you is when DC was second to vote for somebody, I voted for her. When I was second to vote, she voted for me, now you are second to vote for somebody.... not a good trend here

I understand that but you didn't answer my question.

How is my vote a throw away?

[Lorena]

Oh wait, I thought I had 3 votes. DOH! Ya know LSG, the funny thing is when I placed my vote, I thought ppl were gonna jump on me for being the second person to vote for someone... ahh well.

[LoneStarGirl]

Sorry Lathum, I guess throw away wasn't the phrase I was going for. Forgive me :)

[Lorena]

I should have left 20 minutes ago, yet I'm still here... gotta love WW. Don't kill me guys, this is my only means of entertainment if I die, I will rot on my couch with a TV remote. This is a lot more fun.

OK, with that, I'm out.

[DaddyTorgo]

i still have an outstanding vote.

it's still day 1 and while I think there may have been more action this day one than some others I don't have any strong feelings about anyone, which sucks because I feel like my vote could go a long way towards getting us somewhere

[DaddyTorgo]

sorry guys n gals. i'm a lil preoccupied with RL-crap, but i'll try to focus

[LoneStarGirl]

ITs okay Daddy, life happens. I need to get going so i can clean and do all that woman stuff.... so in the name of self preservation

vote dodgerchick

I hate that it has come down to the two girls though.... What fun is werewolf without the women?

[DaddyTorgo]

is there any sort of case for DC, or are we just bandwagoning to get a lynch?

[DaddyTorgo]

dola


besides her being the 2nd person to put down a vote on someone?

[DaddyTorgo]

i dunno if we'll see Fouts. Pretty sure CR won't be around before lynch.

So I guess my vote is the difference between a lynch/no-lynch in terms of if we lynch DC with 4 votes or have a 3-3 tie with LSG and DC.

Voting for Path or Blade would be a throw-away at this point as it wouldn't accomplish anything.

I won't refrain from voting.

So I guess I have to take a stand. FWIW I don't think either DC or LSG are evil. Or at least, I havn't seen any conclusive evidence that leads me towards making a decision.

But I have to think in terms of the best interests of the Crown and Her Majesty's Secret Service here. And clearly no-lynch tells us nothing. And I can't depend on Fouts (who may be evil for all we know) to think in these terms, nor will I "hide" my vote by being the tying vote between the two.

I'm sorry DC. I don't know why you keep getting early-lynched. That being said, hopefully your death will allow us to learn something.

VOTE DODGERCHICK

[Chief Rum]

I'm here. Reading to catch up.

[Fouts]

I don't like bandwagons. I'm sticking with my first impression.

vote barkeep

[Chief Rum]

Fouts and I agree on something? Go call the President and announce world peace! :D

It seemed an odd slip up. And that may be all it is, and maybe Blade is right. But the way I see it, wouldn't Barkeep likely be the target tonight for the wolves anyway? Even the suggestion of a role is enough on Night One.

I don't really like the girl-girl thing. Well, okay, I like girl on girl. I mean...

Seriously, the votes on LSG are a revenge vote and just not sure what Lathum is driving at (is there some bonus to a potential tie that I am not seeing in the rules?). And I just don't see DC making a mistake like being bad AND dropping the first second vote on anyone.

Day One votes suck.

VOTE BARKEEP

[Chief Rum]

Re-reading seemed unclear to me on my BK vote. Just want to say he seems to be the most likely option amongst bad choices. Unfortunately, it is likely all three top candidates are good today, and we're going to follow the usual Day One traditon of killing one of our own. :rolleyes:

[DaddyTorgo]

well you both voted barkeep so now i'm locked on DC. not sure if that's good or bad, but it is what it is.

[Alan T]

time

[Alan T]

The first day on the new assignment, you quickly get to it. You look into some of the business associates that Auric Goldfinger had made as well as retracing some of his recently known steps. After a day's worth of work British Intelligence sends out the word that an arrest has been made. Dodgerchick was brought back to headquarters for interrogation.

It did not take long, but word quickly went out that Dodgerchick was not one of the henchmen that you are looking for. Dodgerchick has been relieved of this mission however.

Dodgerchick was Agent 006

Night deadline is 9:00am Tuesday morning

[DaddyTorgo]

dammit. sorry DC.

one of these games can we let her live past day one guys?

[Chief Rum]

Sorry, DC.

I don't know if we can take anything away from this (at least just yet). We have so little information, just about all of us are voting on gut (well, except for the bad guys).

[LoneStarGirl]

Damnit. I should have went with my initial feeling of barkeep. I am sorry DC!

[Lorena]

Alright, I'm back and hoping to still be alive.

[Barkeep49]

Damnit. I should have went with my initial feeling of barkeep. I am sorry DC!
And you'd still have netted a good guy.

Sorry DC :(

[Lorena]

Ahh well, now I gotta do the stay-at-home mommie thing and clean the pad, cook, etc. etc. etc.

Kiss my ass mother effers http://www.voimahali.fi/vh/images/smilies/hali_kiss-ass-love.gif

:mad: :p

[DaddyTorgo]

DC...where do you get these wonderful smileys?

[Lorena]

DC...where do you get these wonderful smileys?

If I tell you I'll have to take you out http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/kill.gif

:rolleyes:

[Lathum]

sorry DC it always sucks to be the day 1 lynch.

[Fouts]

I suppose it could have been worse. Lets hope the night brings us something.

[DaddyTorgo]

workin 5am-1:30pm but i am planning on doing nothing all afternoon/evening so i ought to be around tomorrow afternoon, barring unforseen circumstances.

[Alan T]

The Night passes fairly quickly for most of you. The early rise to start another day of investigations takes you to your first call with British Intelligence for the day. On the call you find out another agent was killed during the night. You are informed that Lathum was ruthlessly shot down while he was out last night. The news grows even sadder when you learn that he died trying to protect someone else.

Lathum was Agent 009 and the Bodyguard

Day Deadline for votes will be Tuesday 9:00pm EST

[Blade6119]

I was worried that was going to happen after his comments today...now were in trouble

[Chief Rum]

Oh wow, that hurts. :(

I hope whoever he was protecting saw who killed him. That would help us a lot, because our margin for error is small here, I think, if all three "evil" roles are filled.

See ya, Lathum.

[Chief Rum]

I was worried that was going to happen after his comments today...now were in trouble

Are you talking about your discussion with him over Barkeep's role? Or his back-and-forth with LSG?

The second seems like common sense WW-ism on his part, and LSG being none too happy about being voted for.

The first, though, yeah, I could see that making him a target. But that whole conversation would have pointed toward a target, and Lathum wasn't that target.

I also think it was a red herring. There was a slip up, but it was just one of those offhand comments that mean nothing, IMO, and said target is nothing but an agent (or maybe a bad guy).

I don't know, I am trying to be coy, but I suppose anyone reading that conversation already has an idea what I am talking about.

Blade, what do you think?

[Blade6119]

Are you talking about your discussion with him over Barkeep's role? Or his back-and-forth with LSG?

The second seems like common sense WW-ism on his part, and LSG being none too happy about being voted for.

The first, though, yeah, I could see that making him a target. But that whole conversation would have pointed toward a target, and Lathum wasn't that target.

I also think it was a red herring. There was a slip up, but it was just one of those offhand comments that mean nothing, IMO, and said target is nothing but an agent (or maybe a bad guy).

I don't know, I am trying to be coy, but I suppose anyone reading that conversation already has an idea what I am talking about.

Blade, what do you think?
When he and i were discussing barkeep, and i was strongly hinting at 007, he to me came fairly out of left field and asked if i was implying barkeep was the bodyguard. It was odd, and thus caught my attention. Im guessing the bad guys saw a similar oddity when he said that.

[Chief Rum]

When he and i were discussing barkeep, and i was strongly hinting at 007, he to me came fairly out of left field and asked if i was implying barkeep was the bodyguard. It was odd, and thus caught my attention. Im guessing the bad guys saw a similar oddity when he said that.

Hmm, you may be right. I personally didn't make that leap, and thought Lathum saying bodyguard might more suggest he himself was 007 (same diff, though, he would be a target). But that's if you made that connection at all--I could also see people believing it was just a review of the available good roles by two veteran players, and didn't necessarily mean either of them was one or the other.

Regardless, the wolves took a chance and won there. I would like to see what 007 saw last night, but even if it had been safe for him with a BG to reveal or help, now it is all but impossible. :(

We will have to watch for hints from 007 and hope we can catch on (and the bad guys not).

[Fouts]

I am surprised Barkeep wasn't a target.

[Barkeep49]

I am surprised Barkeep wasn't a target.
I'm not. The bad guys normally leave around a guy who has drawn a lot of suspicion.

[Chief Rum]

I have ti run, and will be out all day today at both jobs. Unfortunately, I have very little to go on.

VOTE DADDY TORGO

Simply because he ended up being the key vote on DC yesterday. But really not married to this pick, and if I could be around as other information might come out, I would probably change it.

Oh well. See you all tonight (if I live).

[Lathum]

dammit :(

I knew I should have stuck with conventional wisdom.

[Barkeep49]

I've had enough of Fouts and his making accusations against me without really voting for me.

Vote Fouts

I really think he knows the 00 numbers, as the bad guys would, and thus understood what I was saying and purposely set it up to seem as though I was fibbing.

[LoneStarGirl]

When he and i were discussing barkeep, and i was strongly hinting at 007, he to me came fairly out of left field and asked if i was implying barkeep was the bodyguard. It was odd, and thus caught my attention. Im guessing the bad guys saw a similar oddity when he said that.

Damn Blade... that is why i sometimes feel like an inadequate WW player. I never saw that or concluded that from lathum's comments. I guess I don't read enough into them. With that being said, it makes me feel that at least one werewolf is a pro.... maybe barkeep, maybe blade or Dubb. I dont know for sure, so I am going to wait a little bit longer before throwing out my vote.

[Fouts]

I've had enough of Fouts and his making accusations against me without really voting for me.

Vote Fouts

I really think he knows the 00 numbers, as the bad guys would, and thus understood what I was saying and purposely set it up to seem as though I was fibbing.

I did vote for you yesterday. Just to clear up any misunderstanding today.

vote Barkeep

[Barkeep49]

How about Fouts. Fouts is a pro and I think he's been doing the classic bad guy strategy of point out bad but let others to vote, in order to try and avoid being tied to bad decisions.

[Barkeep49]

I did vote for you yesterday. Just to clear up any misunderstanding today.

vote Barkeep
You set it up that one of us is lying, which is absurd case to make. Why not vote for me then?

[Fouts]

Well, I only spoke of what I know. I don't have a name. The other agents will know what I'm talking about.

[Barkeep49]

Well, I only spoke of what I know. I don't have a name. The other agents will know what I'm talking about.
Give it up already. I've explained that two or three times already. In my mind secret agent # = name. If you say 007 you know I'm talking about Bond. That's the definition of a name. I thus conflated the two.

[LoneStarGirl]

The only thing bad about small games is the fact that there is so little conversation at times. It seems either fouts of Barkeep is evil, it is just hard to justify which one it is

[path12]

The only thing bad about small games is the fact that there is so little conversation at times. It seems either fouts of Barkeep is evil, it is just hard to justify which one it is

Why do you think one of them has to be? They could easily both be good, or for that matter they could both be bad and distancing themselves from each other.

[DaddyTorgo]

shi...oh this a family-friendly game?


Chief you don't want to vote for me. I'm a secret agent (00?)


so we're down two good guys and the bodyguard already? that's not good. Such a small game that I'm starting to panic a bit already that we've lost two, including our bodyguard.

I explained my frustration last night with the way the vote went, essentially "trapping" me on DC by not having another candidate even close. Not that it would have mattered likely anyways, it was a blind Day one lynch, not an informed lynch on a later day where we would know more and when my vote would be more eye-raising.

FWIW Lathum wasn't guarding me last night. I would like to know who he was guarding though, if they knew that, or especially if they saw anything.

The Fouts/Barkeep exchange has me raising a wary eye in that direction, I'm curious to see what comes of it. There hasn't been a lot of action today so far aside from that. I'm curious to see Blade's take on the Fouts/Barkeep exchange, but IMO right now I am looking in that direction with my vote, for lack of any other strong suspects. It's entirely possible that either Fouts or Barkeep is evil, it's also entirely possible that neither of the two are and we could lynch both and come up with neither being bad.

How many bad-guys do we think there are in a game this size anyways? What's the formula say?

[path12]

How many bad-guys do we think there are in a game this size anyways? What's the formula say?


I'm assuming two, which makes it 5-2 at this moment. Making this a pretty important lynch with very little info to go on, since if we get it wrong we're looking at 3-2 going into tomorrow.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm assuming two, which makes it 5-2 at this moment. Making this a pretty important lynch with very little info to go on, since if we get it wrong we're looking at 3-2 going into tomorrow.

there were only 9 players to start? mannnnn

[DaddyTorgo]

for some reason i thought we had 10

[path12]

there were only 9 players to start? mannnnn


You're right -- my bad. Even so, 6-2 with possible 4-2 tomorrow means we either need a seer hit or a good lynch very soon.

[DaddyTorgo]

true. very true.

[DaddyTorgo]

what's the deal with dubb?

[DaddyTorgo]

to answer my own question. dubb has 2 posts.

one was a one-liner re: barkeep's whole "name" thing

the other was his vote for DC


hmmmm, he's rocketing up my radar

[path12]

00 checking in, ready to kick some ass, and score some i suppose

I just noticed this. Ms Galore? Or someone looking for her?

What's our thinking on Galore, anyway? Not worth the lynch, but worth identifying just to try and reduce the signal/noise ratio would be my thought.

[path12]

So nobody saw anything last night? Lathum was guarding someone but that person was not aware of it? Bueller?

I also noticed that there was never a final vote tally yesterday. I'll try and put that together later this afternoon.

[DaddyTorgo]

no one's been in/on cept you and me path.

[Blade6119]

I just noticed this. Ms Galore? Or someone looking for her?

What's our thinking on Galore, anyway? Not worth the lynch, but worth identifying just to try and reduce the signal/noise ratio would be my thought.
If you have ever seen a bond flick, he spends more time chasing women then bad guys. I was merely making a joke about that(saw casino royale over the weekend, good flick).

Why would ms. galore want to score some ass?

[path12]

Why would ms. galore want to score some ass?

Chicks like ass too, don't they?

[Blade6119]

The Fouts/Barkeep exchange has me raising a wary eye in that direction, I'm curious to see what comes of it. There hasn't been a lot of action today so far aside from that. I'm curious to see Blade's take on the Fouts/Barkeep exchange, but IMO right now I am looking in that direction with my vote, for lack of any other strong suspects. It's entirely possible that either Fouts or Barkeep is evil, it's also entirely possible that neither of the two are and we could lynch both and come up with neither being bad.

How many bad-guys do we think there are in a game this size anyways? What's the formula say?

The rules say 2.5...it is a public roles game i believe, and since i didnt see alan say all roles may not be in the game i assume we have 2 evils and one turncoat(galore).

I stated my thoughts on barkeep pretty clearly yesterday, and i suspect lathum died protecting him. So if we go down that road i can tell you without a doubt my vote would fall on fouts.

Frankly, im more inclined to vote dubb right now. Hes a smart player, and being quiet is not helping us at all. At least barkeep and fouts are discussing...

[Blade6119]

Chicks like ass too, don't they?

Ive never heared chicks say lets score some ass, but ill give you that point.

[path12]

Yesterday's final vote:

Dodgerchick (4): Barkeep (62), dubb (106), LSG (118), DaddyTorgo (121)
Barkeep (2): Fouts (123), Chief Rum (124)
LSG (2): Dodgerchick (66), Lathum (75)
path12 (1): Blade (72)
Blade (1): path12 (85)

Is it interesting that both LSG's voters are dead? Patterns to follow.

[Blade6119]

there were only 9 players to start? mannnnn

What am i missing? The sign up list has 10

Player Sign ups: (10 player max)

1. Path12
2. DaddyTorgo
3. Barkeep49
4. Lonestargirl
5. Chief Rum
6. Dodgerchick - Arrested Day 1 - Agent 006
7. Blade
8. Dubb
9. Fouts
10. Lathum - Killed Night 1 - Agent 009 (Bodyguard)

[DaddyTorgo]

as i was the one to point out the dubb situation, i would go that way with you blade.

[path12]

Again, yesterday's voting:

58 -- DaddyTorgo votes Barkeep(1)
60 -- Dodgerchick votes Barkeep(2)
62 -- Barkeep votes Dodgerchick(1)
63 -- LSG votes Dodgerchick(2)
65 -- Lathum votes Barkeep(3)
66 -- Dodgerchick UNVOTES Barkeep(2), votes LSG(1)
68 -- path12 votes Barkeep(3)
70 -- DaddyTorgo UNVOTES Barkeep(2)
72 -- Blade votes path12(1)
73 -- Lathum UNVOTES Barkeep(1)
75 -- Lathum votes LSG(2)
85 -- path12 UNVOTES Barkeep(0), votes Blade(1)
87 -- LSG UNVOTES Dodgerchick(1)
106 -- dubb votes Dodgerchick(2)
118 -- LSG votes Dodgerchick(3)
121 -- DaddyTorgo votes Dodgerchick(4)
123 -- Fouts votes Barkeep(1)
124 -- Chief Rum votes Barkeep(2)

Observations:
1) Barkeep voting was a rollercoaster.
2) Nice run on DC at the end. There's a bad guy in there.
3) LSG was the second vote on DC the first time, and the tiebreaker the second time.

[Blade6119]

Current Vote Count

DaddyTorgo - Chief Rum(148)
Fouts - Barkeep(150)
Barkeep - Fouts(152)

[DaddyTorgo]

you're not missing anything, path was mistaken

[DaddyTorgo]

lsg or dubb...lsg or dubb. hmmm

[DaddyTorgo]

i'd feel pretty much equally comfortable voting for both at this point. i can definately see LSG using the "catfight" excuse to try to hide her vote on DC.

[path12]

as i was the one to point out the dubb situation, i would go that way with you blade.

Have to say that this post made me go "hmmmm.....you can't be bad AGAIN, can you?"

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE DUBB

two posts in two days is a (slightly) worse offense than both of the people LSG voted for being dead.

I'm open to being swayed though.

[path12]

I need to vote since I have to go take Norm (aka the Best Dog In The Whole Wide World) to the vet then go and try and do some shopping, so I don't know that I'll be home by deadline.

Based on the voting patterns, LSG and dubb stand out to me also. I'll go ahead and:

VOTE DUBB

He restarted the bandwagon on DC when it was lagging. It's all I got.

[DaddyTorgo]

Have to say that this post made me go "hmmmm.....you can't be bad AGAIN, can you?"

why? because I pointed out a situation and when blade agreed that it was fishy and said he was leaning that way i said if that was the direction we were going he could mentally chalk up another vote there?

I'm not bad again.

[DaddyTorgo]

hope norm is okay path!

[path12]

I'm not bad again.

You say that every time.

It struck me odd because I got a vibe of looking for a bandwagon to jump on. However, we seem to have gotten on the same one anyway.

We'll see. I hope we get a baddie.

[path12]

hope norm is okay path!

I don't think it's a big thing. He either scratched his eye or got a little infection in it. Thanks though!

[Lorena]

http://www.skatemd.com/forums/images/smilies/dancing-ghost.gif

[DaddyTorgo]

You say that every time.

It struck me odd because I got a vibe of looking for a bandwagon to jump on. However, we seem to have gotten on the same one anyway.

We'll see. I hope we get a baddie.

bandwagon? i'm the one that pointed out that dubb was being quiet. so if it's anyone's wagon, it's mine.

[Blade6119]

VOTE DUBB

Dont blame DT, its my bandwagon...if you want to blame someone, blame me.

[dubb93]

I always like it when two people openly argue over who started what bandwagon. I will say this, I'm a secret agent with no real special powers. My identity can be identified by simply saying if you are in the game, my 00 number is lower than yours assuming no one has a really stupid one like "000". Other than that I got nothing.

[DaddyTorgo]

sorry dubb. that's not really helping me any. got anything else to offer in your defense? alternative theories? observations?

[dubb93]

sorry dubb. that's not really helping me any. got anything else to offer in your defense?

Ehhhhhh.....Not really. What else can I say that I haven't already?

alternative theories? observations?

Alternative theories?

Well, I supposed it would be that I'm good and that atleast two of the other 7 are bad. That's a pretty good theory if I might say so myself.

My main observation would be that there is an easy bandwagon against me at this point. If that doesn't do alot to clear me in a small game I don't know what does.

[Blade6119]

I always like it when two people openly argue over who started what bandwagon

Normally i wouldnt want the attention on me, but any chance i get to eliminate dubb is something to trumpet. If im not mistaken, ive had a hand in every death you have suffered since your return :p

[dubb93]

Normally i wouldnt want the attention on me, but any chance i get to eliminate dubb is something to trumpet. If im not mistaken, ive had a hand in every death you have suffered since your return :p

You have to get revenge somehow. I would only put up with someone playing with my mind for so long b/f I just started killing him every chance I got;)

[Blade6119]

You have to get revenge somehow. I would only put up with someone playing with my mind for so long b/f I just started killing him every chance I got;)

You, and one or two others(the players i respect most), i can never get a good feel for. So, better dead then potentially screwing me over :D

[dubb93]

But yea, a vote for me a very bad one. I think it may be wise to place the microsope on the Fouts/Barkeep crap coming out and see if we can get one of them to talk. Barkeep claims to have a stupid name while Fouts claims to have no name.

Then Fouts says we should know what he is talking about, and to tell you the truth I have no clue what he is talking about.

[LoneStarGirl]

Chicks like ass too, don't they?

Hell yah... I mean, uhm, I dunno :D

[LoneStarGirl]

Daddy, do you really think if I was a bad guy I would go after the person I vocally suspected? I am not that dumb. Also, I dont think what happened between me and DC can be considered a cat fight. It wasn't much of anything. Now I am usually a very quiet player, so I wont hold that against Dubb. But I think Fouts is throwing a lot of accusations at Blade that don't really make sense to me. Fouts is a veteran and a good player, and he is relatively under the radar.

[b] vote fouts [b/]

[LoneStarGirl]

vote fouts

[LoneStarGirl]

Anyway, I am going Christmas shopping and out to dinner. I wont be back till lynch time!

[DaddyTorgo]

no, i don't really think you'd be that dumb LSG. but you never know. maybe you didn't intend for it to happen.

*shrugs* it's a starting point at least, and we're definately under the radar as far as time goes.

[DaddyTorgo]

errr...under the gun. mixed my metaphors there

[Fouts]

Dubb all but gives his 00 number and nobody switches their vote?

[Fouts]

My vote is simple. Barkeep mentioned he had a strange name, so I called him on it. Is there any evidence for anyone else? Are you happy with some random vote?

It seems obvious to me, but then again, you can't read my role. I am the next agent in line after dubb.

Another option is that path and blade each voted each other on day 1, then both jumped on dubb. Dubb claims his 00 number and neither switches their vote.

[DaddyTorgo]

no Fouts, and here's why

To make matters worse, British Intelligence states that somehow Auric was able to get his hands on a list of current agent numbers. He'll know how many are out there looking for him!

This simply means the bad guys will start with a list of what agent numbers are in the game and which are available, which could be used for fake reveals. I originally wanted a mechanism in place to prevent people from just coming out and saying oh I'm agent so and so, and quickly eliminating all of the bad guys.

[DaddyTorgo]

dubb has been very quiet though. to the tune of 2 posts in 2 days.

[dubb93]

Well, DT, if I had that list of numbers I would know if agent 000 or whatever was in the game. I have no clue, I do however know that my agent number is in and I've all but given that away to preserve myself.

[DaddyTorgo]

okay. but given that i don't think LSG has been that suspicious, where would you have us turn our attention? Fouts? Barkeep? Chief Rum (who has escaped all scrutiny so far, just for the record)

[dubb93]

As I've already stated I would like more information from Fouts and Barkeep, but anything out of Chief would be good too. Heck, as Fouts brought up there seems to be a Blade/Path connection/reversal of fate as yesterday they voted each other yet today they combine to bandwagon me. But if the vote stays on me we learn nothing other than I was telling the truth and lose a day in the process.

[Fouts]

no Fouts, and here's why

To make matters worse, British Intelligence states that somehow Auric was able to get his hands on a list of current agent numbers. He'll know how many are out there looking for him!

This simply means the bad guys will start with a list of what agent numbers are in the game and which are available, which could be used for fake reveals. I originally wanted a mechanism in place to prevent people from just coming out and saying oh I'm agent so and so, and quickly eliminating all of the bad guys.

Ah ok, so if an agent number isn't in the game, they will use it.

[Fouts]

Daddy, do you really think if I was a bad guy I would go after the person I vocally suspected? I am not that dumb. Also, I dont think what happened between me and DC can be considered a cat fight. It wasn't much of anything. Now I am usually a very quiet player, so I wont hold that against Dubb. But I think Fouts is throwing a lot of accusations at Blade that don't really make sense to me. Fouts is a veteran and a good player, and he is relatively under the radar.

[b] vote fouts [b/]

Two things;

1) As of your post, I hadn't said anything about blade.

2) I thought I was the only person really interogating someone, how is that under the radar?

[Fouts]

I don't like dubb as a candidate, and nobody is going with me on Barkeep. Anyone have any other ideas?

[dubb93]

Fouts what the heck do you mean exactly by you have no name and we should know what you are talking about? Do you mean you have no 00 number, or that you only have a 00 number? Or is it something entirely different?

[dubb93]

B/C I'll go on record right now as saying I do have a 00 number, but no "name" to go along with it. If we assume the 00 number is your name, then the 00 number is my name. But this is something that has me completely confused between you and barkeep.

[DaddyTorgo]

i might be willing to entertain a vote for barkeep. I think that's still pretty thin evidence to base a vote on though.

[Fouts]

Fouts what the heck do you mean exactly by you have no name and we should know what you are talking about? Do you mean you have no 00 number, or that you only have a 00 number? Or is it something entirely different?

When I read his post I took it to mean he had a strange name. It didn't occur to me that he was refering to a strange 00 number as his name, if that is what he meant.

I have no name. I have a 00 number that comes right after yours.

[DaddyTorgo]

B/C I'll go on record right now as saying I do have a 00 number, but no "name" to go along with it. If we assume the 00 number is your name, then the 00 number is my name. But this is something that has me completely confused between you and barkeep.

why'd you just shoot your wad there dubb? that would have been a nice piece of evidence to catch them in...

[DaddyTorgo]

and what would a strange 00 number be?

[Fouts]

3 dubb - DT, path, blade
2 fouts - Barkeep, LSG
1 DT - Chief Rum
1 Barkeep - Fouts

not voted - dubb

[Fouts]

why'd you just shoot your wad there dubb? that would have been a nice piece of evidence to catch them in...

This was mentioned on day 1 between Barkeep and I.

[Fouts]

BTW, 3 three votes on dubb were within a half hour of each other. Very suspicious move.

[Fouts]

dubb, I'm willing to follow your vote to get somebody bad. Any ideas?

[dubb93]

and what would a strange 00 number be?

That would require Barkeep to come into the thread and shed light on his number. I'll admit as I said yesterday I fail to see how a 00 number could be lame and/or funny as he was implying yesterday.

[DaddyTorgo]

This was mentioned on day 1 between Barkeep and I.

mmmhmm. so dubb shouldn't get any credit for mentioning it here either.

i'm not wedded to my dubb vote (and the three were all spaced close together b/c blade+path+i were all in the thread discussing it this afternoon), but I don't really know that Barkeep has done anything to warrant lynching him. Aside from that one "name" comment?

[dubb93]

dubb, I'm willing to follow your vote to get somebody bad. Any ideas?

I have no inside information, but I think going with Barkeep could prehaps turn up someone bad as I fail to see any logic in his 00 number claim. Also as you said, prehaps going somewhere between Path or Blade could provide us some information. I've really got no experience in this small games, I usually need more time b/f my analysis becomes useful.

[dubb93]

mmmhmm. so dubb shouldn't get any credit for mentioning it here either.

i'm not wedded to my dubb vote (and the three were all spaced close together b/c blade+path+i were all in the thread discussing it this afternoon), but I don't really know that Barkeep has done anything to warrant lynching him. Aside from that one "name" comment?

What exactly DT doing besides acting clueless and discrediting us Fouts? He is apart of the bandwagon on me at the moment.

[DaddyTorgo]

i would support a barkeep vote as well. I would not support a blade vote however. he has been playing too quiet to be bad, especially in a small game where his usual antics could cause a lot of confusion for the side of evil.

[Fouts]

mmmhmm. so dubb shouldn't get any credit for mentioning it here either.

i'm not wedded to my dubb vote (and the three were all spaced close together b/c blade+path+i were all in the thread discussing it this afternoon), but I don't really know that Barkeep has done anything to warrant lynching him. Aside from that one "name" comment?

dubb gets credit from me for being the first to claim a number. Too ballsy for a bad guy, IMO. Of course, this was before you mentioned they had a list of numbers in the game. Still, I get the feeling from his posts that he is on my side.

[DaddyTorgo]

What exactly DT doing besides acting clueless and discrediting us Fouts? He is apart of the bandwagon on me at the moment.

discrediting you?

[Fouts]

What exactly DT doing besides acting clueless and discrediting us Fouts? He is apart of the bandwagon on me at the moment.

DT vote?

Pro - deciding lynch vote on DC. Started bandwagon on dubb. Isn't usually active unless he is under suspicion.

Con - is actually playing the game, mentioned the agent numbers in the hands of the bad guys.

[DaddyTorgo]

and "acting clueless" as you like to call it dubb, has a way of stimulating conversation, which is our only source of information.

[dubb93]

discrediting you?

Just seems like you are going out of your way to "not give me credit" for anything that I am saying.

[dubb93]

and "acting clueless" as you like to call it dubb, has a way of stimulating conversation, which is our only source of information.

Yea, but it was not what I expected after you dug through the thread hard enough to count my complete number of posts in the thread.

[DaddyTorgo]

and i'm not under suspiscion, so why would i be active fouts?

unless i was good and trying to work through things.

forgive my crazy-mind too, if you recall i've been up since 4:30am EST at this point, so I can be a bit jumbled and spacey and ADD at this point.

[DaddyTorgo]

Just seems like you are going out of your way to "not give me credit" for anything that I am saying.

fair enough. i guess i am. sorry bout that.

[DaddyTorgo]

what about Chief Rum guys? any feeling on him versus Barkeep?

[Fouts]

and i'm not under suspiscion, so why would i be active fouts?

unless i was good and trying to work through things.

forgive my crazy-mind too, if you recall i've been up since 4:30am EST at this point, so I can be a bit jumbled and spacey and ADD at this point.

Under suspicion because you cast the lynching vote for DC, and received the first vote of the day.

[dubb93]

I always like to throw my vote away on day 1 if I am a bad guy, prehaps even putting it on another bad guy. I don't like my vote to go on a person that ends up getting lynched that day, unless they are bad. With that in mind the two throw away votes were Path and Blade as they voted for each other.

Now on day 2 they both vote me early. I think something is fishy with one of them atleast.

On the other hand, when I am a villager I like to make my vote count on every day. I don't like throw away votes. I want to vote for someone I either think could be bad or that I don't want in the game anymore regardless of the day. I just don't see why in such a small game Blade and Path would throw their votes away and then allign themselves today.

[Fouts]

what about Chief Rum guys? any feeling on him versus Barkeep?

Hard to get any feel of Chief Rum. He rarely is under the gun to answer questions immediately. Since he is away all day, he gets time to read and decide how to answer them at his leisure.

[Fouts]

I agree about path and blade. Getting close to the deadline, though. If we're going to make a move, we need to do it soon.

[DaddyTorgo]

Path then?

[dubb93]

Path then?

Any reason you are so against a Blade vote DT?

[Fouts]

Path then?

Going to look at his posts.

[DaddyTorgo]

Any reason you are so against a Blade vote DT?

well i just played a game with him where we were evil together and he hasn't acted at all like he did in that game.

in a small game especially i think if he was evil he'd be full-force in his crazy-persona to try to sow suspiscion around. the quieter blade is actually more beneficial to the good-guys.

if we can articulate a case against Path that makes sense to me in the next half hour I will be happy to vote Path with you two and put him up for the lynch. At least if he's innocent it'll give me pause to look at the both of you.

[Fouts]

Sorry, I don't get anything from path's posts to make him look bad. He sounds like a good guy to me.

[Fouts]

The rules say 2.5...it is a public roles game i believe, and since i didnt see alan say all roles may not be in the game i assume we have 2 evils and one turncoat(galore).

I stated my thoughts on barkeep pretty clearly yesterday, and i suspect lathum died protecting him. So if we go down that road i can tell you without a doubt my vote would fall on fouts.

Frankly, im more inclined to vote dubb right now. Hes a smart player, and being quiet is not helping us at all. At least barkeep and fouts are discussing...

I am more suspicious of blade. Here he gives us doom and gloom, predicting the night actions (as most bad guys do), and wants to vote for dubb. Then he gives us a disappearing act.

[dubb93]

Screw this crap. DT, vote where you want to, to tell you the truth, a vote for me will put a huge target on you as I'm not completely sure you are clean what with discrediting everything I have said, I'm going with my gut on this one.

VOTE BLADE

[DaddyTorgo]

hmm