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DougWyatt
12-31-2006, 12:27 PM
Yes, great game.
Gonna throw down my peeve though. I hate positional differences. (RCB - LCB; SE - FL; RG - LG; etc.). I see too many players not playing that are alot better than a starter of the opp. position.
IE. In my league Phillys starting CBs are : 57/57 (LCB) 27/49 (RCB) - with a 47/51 (LCB) slotted as the nickel back. All are in their 4th or 5th seasons.
However, most the time, they have their team set up where the right guys are in the right position - which makes me wonder if it's a bigger deal to them then it is to me when signing players - or does the AI just usually do a good job switching player positions when neccessary.
henry296
12-31-2006, 12:43 PM
I think the CPU does a pretty good job of switching positions. The LCB might take an experience hit if he changes to RCB or the Philly scouts see them much closer than your scout.
DougWyatt
12-31-2006, 12:48 PM
I think the CPU does a pretty good job of switching positions. The LCB might take an experience hit if he changes to RCB or the Philly scouts see them much closer than your scout.
That's the part that kinda peeves me. I don't think that's very realistic.
Celeval
12-31-2006, 01:20 PM
I think the CPU does a pretty good job of switching positions. The LCB might take an experience hit if he changes to RCB or the Philly scouts see them much closer than your scout.
That's the part that kinda peeves me. I don't think that's very realistic.
It depends - if you're playing man and matching top - to - top rather than LCB/RCB, perhaps. But there is a distinct difference, especially in a zone, on left and right side. Is the corner better at swiveling in one direction? Covering slants from one side and not another? Same deal with the offensive line - RT and LT are very different, as you see when you look at players (especially out of college) who become successful RTs but can't cut it at LT.
DougWyatt
12-31-2006, 03:55 PM
It depends - if you're playing man and matching top - to - top rather than LCB/RCB, perhaps. But there is a distinct difference, especially in a zone, on left and right side. Is the corner better at swiveling in one direction? Covering slants from one side and not another? Same deal with the offensive line - RT and LT are very different, as you see when you look at players (especially out of college) who become successful RTs but can't cut it at LT.
Perhaps, I guess. But I just don't see good NFL caliber cornerbacks being signicantly better (enough to bench) because they don't swivel to one direction as well as the other. I've always thought teams play their top 2 CBs; and they're top of the line athletes that can swivel just fine either way.
The tackle one I'd give you, although I don't think it's neccessarily because of position. My belief is that teams put their top DEs on the right (normally the QBs "blind side"). So that means a tackle has to go up against the top DEs in the league on a regular basis. But, that said - I do think position does matter with them.
Front Office Midget
01-04-2007, 08:58 AM
Were you looking at their depth chart in-season? Because preseason, the AI starts younger, undeveloped players with good potential if they can, and this seems to me like a spot in which the AI would start the 27/49 in preseason and not in the regular season.
Even in a regular season, given 5 points leeway for scouting differences, they could possibly see their CBs as a 32/54 RCB and a 42/46 LCB with little RCB experience, and it w*ould make sense to start the RCB.
DougWyatt
01-04-2007, 12:54 PM
Nope, it was a playoff game where I noticed that particular case. I usually try to zip through seasons, so I don't generally pay much attention to the CPU teams - except for when I'm scouting my opponent. Seems to happen some.
Narcizo
01-04-2007, 03:03 PM
It depends - if you're playing man and matching top - to - top rather than LCB/RCB, perhaps. But there is a distinct difference, especially in a zone, on left and right side. Is the corner better at swiveling in one direction?
The thing is, you can set cornerbacks to cover the top rated receiver. I think generally the one covering the top rated receiver is called the RCB on the roster screen. Does it matter whether the corner in question is "really" a right or left cornerback in these cases?
Vinatieri for Prez
01-04-2007, 04:57 PM
That's the part that kinda peeves me. I don't think that's very realistic.
This is reflected in game with experience at each position. I have two top notch CBs that are experienced enough which show no expectation of ratings drop off with a switch from LCB to RCB. With younger guys, it would seem to me that in real life and FOF, making the switch will cost some ratings hit. But, that's only in experience rating not potential rating -- they'll get back up there as they get more experience. I see this as being very real life. And although there is not a huge difference in the two positions, for the younger guys I can see it being a slight difference that it takes getting used to.
Ksyrup
01-05-2007, 06:45 AM
The biggest position switch difference I've seen is with LT. Nearly all LTs are position-specific, or else you have to take a serious hit in experience rating to move a RT to LT. The others don't bother me so much, as I've gotten pretty used to looking at potential FAs and draftees and planning out who I can switch. With draftees, I switch them immediately so they don't gain experience at the wrong position.
I kinda like the positions now, especially since the releasing/resigning of scrubs penalty (the refusal to resign due to "past injustices") has been lessened. That was my biggest pet peeve about the specific positions in FOF2K4.
Raiders Army
01-05-2007, 07:53 AM
The thing is, you can set cornerbacks to cover the top rated receiver. I think generally the one covering the top rated receiver is called the RCB on the roster screen. Does it matter whether the corner in question is "really" a right or left cornerback in these cases?
Good question. I'm not sure if anyone really knows the answer.
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