Werewolf small game IV: Revenge of the nerds. GAME OVER NERDS WIN

[Lathum]

Game will start on 1/8 and is limited to 11 players. Rules to follow

1. Barkeep- voted out day 2- tri lambda
2. Path
3. Dodgerchick
4. Lonestargirl- Stan Gable- lynched day 5
5. Blade- killed by ogre-day 3
6. Jonathan E.- voted out day 1- tri lambda
7. oliegirl- ogre-lynched day 3
8. ardent
9. alanT- removed night 4- tri lambda
10.GoldenEagle- voted out day 4- tri lambda
11. Spleen- Removed night 3-wormser

alt. BrianD

[Lathum]

Life ig good. You are on your way to start college where new and exciting expieriences await you but when you get there things aren't what they seem. You are forced to live in a gym and are ridiculed by the jocks that control the campus. You and the other nerds decide to form your own fraternity and all seems to be going well untill it becomes obvious the alpha beta's have infiltrated your fraternity and will stop at nothing to permanantlydispose of the tri lambda's once and for all and regain control of their campus!


Rules-
Each day players vote for one person to be removed from the fraternity, the vote must be majority for player to be removed.
Voting deadline is 9:00 PM EST.

All night actions are due by 9:00 AM EST.Each night the Alpha Beta's will have a chance to remove a player from the game.


Quoting of PM's is forbidin

Roles will be revealed upon players removal.

rules are subject to change in case i overlooked something.

Characters

Louis Skolnick- you are the president of Lambda Lambda Lambda fraternity. As president once per game you may switch the vote from the chosen candidate to another candidate.

Booger= You roam the hallways at night doing your best to protect your fellow tri lambdas.If you choose the corect person to protect you have a chance to identify the attacker. As long as you haven't smoked to much that night.

Wormser- You are small, sneaky and technilogicaly savvy. Once per night you can spy on another player to see what they are up to.

Tri Lambda- ordinary villager

Stan Gable= You are the president of the alpha beta fraternity. You want nothing more then to eliminate all the tri lambdas from the Adams college campus

Ogre- You are the big, dumb member of the alpha beta fraternity.

[Lathum]

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[Barkeep49]

I was going to post "I'll play as an alternate as I'm still alive in the big game" but then I realized "I better check to make sure I'm still alive" and sure enough I'm dead. So count me in.

[path12]

Day 1 lynch = small game hell yeahs.

[Lorena]

Revenge of the nerds? I'm so in!

[Lathum]

I may need to push the start date until some people start dying in St. Cronins game. I'm glad to see the move to a new section of the board hasn't hurt participation :rolleyes:

[Alan T]

Put me down as an alternate if you need someone. I'll happily play just getting a little busier at work so not been signing up right away on any of them lately.

[LoneStarGirl]

Woohoo nerds? I am in!

[Barkeep49]

Point of Ettiquite: Does the fact that I know one of the writers of the Nerds series disqualify me from playing?

[Blade6119]

ill play, if only to see what lathum does to me with my role :)

[Lathum]

Point of Ettiquite: Does the fact that I know one of the writers of the Nerds series disqualify me from playing?

only if you were their insperation

[LoneStarGirl]

hmmm i guess we are not playing

[Lathum]

hmmm i guess we are not playing

I will keep the game open until we get enough players. Maybe people didn't like the theme.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Why do I keep hearing "Oh, ah, Alpha Beta" in my head?

I'm in.

[Lorena]

Yay, glad you're in Jonathan. I must say that you're becoming a very good player btw.

I will keep the game open until we get enough players. Maybe people didn't like the theme.

Might be a generational thing but I LLLLLOOOOVVVEE IT!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Thanks, Dodgerchick.

[path12]

I will keep the game open until we get enough players. Maybe people didn't like the theme.


I don't think it's the theme, I think it's more a matter of not getting much new blood over to the FOF hinterlands. It seems to me that the past few small games had some trouble filling......

[oliegirl]

I'm in :) One of my all time favorite movies...how come there is no Betty character???? Are you discriminating against the Pi's?

[Lathum]

I'm in :) One of my all time favorite movies...how come there is no Betty character???? Are you discriminating against the Pi's?

just wait...

[Poli]

In.

[LoneStarGirl]

Put GoldenEagle in :)

[LoneStarGirl]

Damn, this game was already supposed to start. You need to MAKE people play Lathum, throw your weight around.

[BrianD]

I'll take a spot to help move the game along...though I'll only be around until Wednesday the 17th, so maybe I shouldn't...

[spleen1015]

I'll play.

[Lorena]

Tht's today yay!

[Lathum]

OK, games full, I gave GE the last spot and listed BrianD as an alternate. Roles will be going out tonight with the game starting with day 1 tomorrow. A few things to remember, the deadline is 9:00 PM EST and a majority vote is needed for removal. Since we are starting he game mid week I will use an extended weekend period that I will post After fridays lynch.

[Barkeep49]

Feels good to be geek.

[Lorena]

Nerd checking in

[path12]

Glasses taped and checking in.

[Lathum]

all roles have been sent. Please note quoting PM's are forbidin. I also want to mention now the wording in the messages for all the roles was varied so no one can pick up on clues when you all are "checking in"

[Poli]

Pocket protector, check.

Checking in, check.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Nerd here. Anyone seen my pocket protector?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Blasted. I took too long with my post. Darn you ardent enthusiast!

[Alan T]

I'm here

[Blade6119]

ardent=fun times

[LoneStarGirl]

I am excited about playing with ardent. Role is here and I am ready to get going! Anybody up for some D & D?

[spleen1015]

I haven't gotten a PM.

[Poli]

Blasted. I took too long with my post. Darn you ardent enthusiast!
That took you 5 minutes??

[Poli]

I am excited about playing with ardent. Role is here and I am ready to get going! Anybody up for some D & D?

Just wait until I'm a wolf. I'm a bit ruthless.

[Lathum]

spleen I resent your PM

[spleen1015]

PM recived.

Hello fellow Tri-Lambdas!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

That took you 5 minutes??

I was trying to come up with something witty. I wrote and rewrote that post at least ten times. Unfortunately, that was the best I could come up with. I tend to choke under pressure.

[DaddyTorgo]

oh good, you got enough to play. i would have signed up and played earlier but i thought the comics-game was going to be starting sooner

[Lorena]

I was trying to come up with something witty. I wrote and rewrote that post at least ten times. Unfortunately, that was the best I could come up with. I tend to choke under pressure.

this made me chuckle

[GoldenEagle]

Tri Lambda checking in.

[LoneStarGirl]

I just got the urge to go rent this movie. I dont think I have ever seen it all the way through

[Barkeep49]

I was trying to come up with something witty. I wrote and rewrote that post at least ten times. Unfortunately, that was the best I could come up with. I tend to choke under pressure.
Wow. So not only did Ardent come up with the more clever post and do it first, but Jonathan invested effort into the joke. Yikes. I'm not saying anything, but I expect a little bit more for nerds.

[Barkeep49]

Oh and I think we should vote for Lathum. He's the most dangerous bad guy around and so killing him off Day 1 is a good precautionary move.

[path12]

Wow. So not only did Ardent come up with the more clever post and do it first, but Jonathan invested effort into the joke. Yikes. I'm not saying anything, but I expect a little bit more for nerds.

Hmmmm. Actually, it sounds pretty dead on to me.

[Lathum]

I just got the urge to go rent this movie. I dont think I have ever seen it all the way through

it's one of the best movies ever unedited.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Wow. So not only did Ardent come up with the more clever post and do it first, but Jonathan invested effort into the joke. Yikes. I'm not saying anything, but I expect a little bit more for nerds.

You should have seen some of my drafts. Not only did they include pocket protectors, I also threw in Tandy computers, Omega Mus, and sweet Tri Lambda sweaters. It was shaping up to be a real beauty. I just couldn't pull it all together. In hindsight, I should have just gone with:

http://www.smileyhut.com/glasses/nerd.gif Nerd checking in.

Ah, mayhap next time.

[Lathum]

You awake in the morning and make your way to the common room for breakfast. You notice Lathum is not there. You go to his room and it is empty, the only thing left behind is a note saying " nerds go home, we will make sure of that!!" How could someone have persuaded Lathum to leave in the middle of the night? There must be alpha beta's among you!! But who?

Day one has begun, deadline is 9:00 PM EST

[spleen1015]

Is anyone against not lynching today?

I think that's what we should do.

[Poli]

I'm against lynching me.

[Barkeep49]

we should always lynch. Especially in a small game not lynching generally favors the wolves.

[spleen1015]

I only suggest it because we did it in a previous game and it didn't seem to hurt us any. The good guys still won.

This game seems to be a little slow this morning. Where is everyone? :)

[Barkeep49]

It does seem to be slow. Let's kick it up a notch by

Vote Jonathan

He just has seemed nerdy enough to stay around. I like some rationale for a D1 vote and there it is for now.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

He just has seemed nerdy enough to stay around.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

[Alan T]

I agree, its best to always have a track record of people's voting. We saw in Cronin's game how it was very important to break down who the bad guys were based on votes.

No-votes hurt that, A Runaway vote hurts that, everyone spreading votes out across 50 people hurts that.

I'll do something a bit uncharacterstic. I'll vote Jonathan too. Put him under the spotlight early. This will likely get me some votes I bet as the second one on someone, but also hopefully gets us going in a 2 or 3 person race instead of 11 people voting on 11 different people. That didn't work too well for us in Cronin's game as it ended up getting the seer lynched day 1 without any time to really defend himself.

Vote Jonathan

[spleen1015]

We definitely don't need to lynch the seer Day 1. I see the seer being a bigger advantage in these little games.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I don't like being in the spotlight. The light glares off my oily skin and everyone can see how horrible my acne is. My mom says that one day it will clear up. I hope so. I'm tired of popping zits every day. It sure doesn't help with the ladies to have Mt. Vesuvius on your face.

[LoneStarGirl]

Jonathan you are trying way to hard. It should come more natural for you to be a nerd. :)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

In real life I'm more of a dork than a nerd, and I've worked hard over the years to repress my dorkness. Maybe I should launch into a discussion of great science fiction novels? Or why I think Star Trek has done more damage to the image of SF than good? How about an individual review for every episode of the original Twilight Zone?

[path12]

Well, let's throw out another candidate out there to prevent a runaway:

VOTE ARDENT

Welcome back!

[Lorena]

I don't like being in the spotlight. The light glares off my oily skin and everyone can see how horrible my acne is. My mom says that one day it will clear up. I hope so. I'm tired of popping zits every day. It sure doesn't help with the ladies to have Mt. Vesuvius on your face.

How long did it take you to come up with that?

J/K ;)

[Lorena]

DOLA,

You know I like ya Jon :)

[Lorena]

I actually considered voting for ardent before path did, but I couldn't do it to the guy; he just came back from Africa!

vote goldeneagle

courtesy of random.org

[Jonathan Ezarik]

That work of brilliance took about ten minutes. :)

[Lathum]

current vote count

Jonathan 2 ( Barkeep, AlanT)
Ardent 1 (Path)
GoldenEagle 1 ( Dodgerchick)

6 votes needed for lynch

[spleen1015]

I think random.org is rigged because it told me to vote for GE as well.

I take that in meaning that I need to

[b]VOTE Jonathan Ezarik[b]

[spleen1015]

Grrrr..

VOTE Jonathan Ezarik

[Poli]

Vote Dodgerchick

For taking it easy on me. :)

[Lorena]

Vote Dodgerchick

For taking it easy on me. :)

DOH! :eek:

[Blade6119]

VOTE SPLEEn

For suggesting we not lynch, something a wolf does

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE SPLEEN

If you really don't want to lynch today, why cast the third vote on me?

[spleen1015]

VOTE SPLEEn

For suggesting we not lynch, something a wolf does

Which is all reason why I wouldn't do it. You should know that I am smarter than that.

Lynching me is a mistake.

[spleen1015]

VOTE SPLEEN

If you really don't want to lynch today, why cast the third vote on me?

Obviously, I have to vote for someone when there's going to be a lynch.

[Lathum]

current vote count

Jonathan 3 ( Barkeep, AlanT, spleen)
Ardent 1 (Path)
GoldenEagle 1 ( Dodgerchick)
Spleen 2 ( Blade, jonathan)
Dodgerchick 1 (Ardent)

not voted Lonestargirl, oliegirl, goldeneagle

6 votes needed for lynch

[Jonathan Ezarik]

You missed my vote for spleen, Lathum.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Obviously, I have to vote for someone when there's going to be a lynch.

Yes, but if you're not in favor of lynching anyone today, why vote for the person already leading in votes? Why not vote for someone with no votes? Or vote for Ardent or GE who have one vote?

[Lathum]

You missed my vote for spleen, Lathum.

fixed

[spleen1015]

Yes, but if you're not in favor of lynching anyone today, why vote for the person already leading in votes? Why not vote for someone with no votes? Or vote for Ardent or GE who have one vote?

I didn't vote for GE because truthfully that's who random.org told me to. I didn't want to go with the coincidence of Dodgerchick getting the same thing. So, I just picked you out of the 2 left.

It is all a guessing game today.

[Lorena]

We definitely don't need to lynch the seer Day 1. I see the seer being a bigger advantage in these little games.

Umm... he said he didn't want to lynch the seer, not that he didn't want a lynch. Ya'll are reading this too darn quick.

[spleen1015]

Umm... he said he didn't want to lynch the seer, not that he didn't want a lynch. Ya'll are reading this too darn quick.

No, I did ask if there was anyone who thought we shouldn't lynch, then say that I thought that's what we should do. I was seeing what others thoughts were more than anything.

If you guys feel the need to lynch me because of that, you'll be losing a Nerd.

[Lorena]

Is anyone against not lynching today?

I think that's what we should do.

Oh there it is, I guess I'm reading these too darn quick :o

[LoneStarGirl]

Hmm this is a hard one, part of me wants a lynch tonight, but part of me doesn't..... I think I am going to wait until after GE and Olie get online to decide what to do.... unless spleen, dc, ardent, BK and alant have another suggestion

[Poli]

Nope.

[Lorena]

Hmm this is a hard one, part of me wants a lynch tonight, but part of me doesn't..... I think I am going to wait until after GE and Olie get online to decide what to do.... unless spleen, dc, ardent, BK and alant have another suggestion

If it helps your analysis, wait to see what they're gonna say. It's day one we're really grasping at straws.

[Alan T]

I am just suprised that not only did I not receive any votes yet, but no one even came out agressively about me placing a second vote on someone on day 1 before anyone else had a vote yet.

I also find it interesting that 4 1/2 hours after I placed the 2nd vote on Jon, spleen places #3 on him and suddenly within 30 min Spleen has 2 votes.

I also have no clue what Spleen means by random.org picking goldeneagle which means he should vote Jonathan. I don't see how those two statements really tie together at all.

[LoneStarGirl]

I have always said that a day without lynching is good for the wolves. I have stated that numerous times. I dont want to go back on that and jonathan HAS to have my vote in order to be lynched so vote jonathan

[Alan T]

Im out for the night. I'll be back some point after 10 or 10:30

[Jonathan Ezarik]

How does

Hmm this is a hard one, part of me wants a lynch tonight, but part of me doesn't

mesh with

I have always said that a day without lynching is good for the wolves. I have stated that numerous times.?

[Blade6119]

and jonathan HAS to have my vote in order to be lynched

??? LSG, time to share with the group your little secret.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I am just suprised that not only did I not receive any votes yet, but no one even came out agressively about me placing a second vote on someone on day 1 before anyone else had a vote yet.

Could it be a sign that I'm not a wolf? If I was, wouldn't you be the obvious choice for the wolves to go after to try to divert attention away from me?

[Blade6119]

Could it be a sign that I'm not a wolf? If I was, wouldn't you be the obvious choice for the wolves to go after to try to divert attention away from me?

On day 1 the wolves want to stay out of the spotlight...so they wouldnt place the 2nd vote, or accuse him of it to me. So i trust alan, and dont trust you

[Jonathan Ezarik]

On day 1 the wolves want to stay out of the spotlight...so they wouldnt place the 2nd vote, or accuse him of it to me. So i trust alan, and dont trust you

Yeah, just like the wolves would never go after someone on the first night that they voted for that day, right? :rolleyes:

[Poli]

FYI, with the three day weekend upcoming, I'll be out pretty much from Friday afternoon until Tuesday morn.

[LoneStarGirl]

??? LSG, time to share with the group your little secret.

You have to have 6 votes to lynch, there were 3 votes on Jonathan and 3 people who haven't voted. I guess the people who didn't vote for jonathan could switch their vote to make sure a lynch happens... but I didn't think of that. When is lynch time btw? I am used to it being in the thread title

[LoneStarGirl]

FYI, with the three day weekend upcoming, I'll be out pretty much from Friday afternoon until Tuesday morn.

I really hope we dont take the weekend off of this game. Especially with hoops game starting tuesday

[Lathum]

FYI, with the three day weekend upcoming, I'll be out pretty much from Friday afternoon until Tuesday morn.

will you be able to check in periodicaly?

[spleen1015]

Lynch time is 9pm, BTW.

[spleen1015]

I also have no clue what Spleen means by random.org picking goldeneagle which means he should vote Jonathan. I don't see how those two statements really tie together at all.

I use random.org to pick a number from 1-11. It came up 10. GE is #10 on the signup list. Dodgerchick did the same thing and I didn't want to piggyback on her because of that coincidence, so I went with Jonathan.

[Lathum]

I updated the thread title ( thanks gor making me look dumb LSG :) )

I have every intention of continuing through the weekend

[Blade6119]

Yeah, just like the wolves would never go after someone on the first night that they voted for that day, right? :rolleyes:

We killed spleen because he hinted he had a role on day 1. He did, just not a great one...LSG lied about a lot of the stuff she said that final day...we didnt know we could convert anyone(we tried to kill alan)....dont be a smartass when you dont know what your talking about

[Lorena]

I use random.org to pick a number from 1-11. It came up 10. GE is #10 on the signup list. Dodgerchick did the same thing and I didn't want to piggyback on her because of that coincidence, so I went with Jonathan.

Spleen, I don't mean to pile up on you but you voting for Jon is more suspicious than voting for GE.

Or is the second vote on someone thing?

[Lorena]

doka,

IMO anyway

[Lorena]

errr.... dola, I mean.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

We killed spleen because he hinted he had a role on day 1. He did, just not a great one...LSG lied about a lot of the stuff she said that final day...we didnt know we could convert anyone(we tried to kill alan)....dont be a smartass when you dont know what your talking about

I'm not going to get into name calling here, so I'll let your last statement slide. I stand by my point, though. There are certain things now that can't be automatically used to indicate someone is or isn't a wolf. It's easy to do something that's obviously wolfish and then say, "If I was a wolf, would I do that?"

[Blade6119]

I'm not going to get into name calling here, so I'll let your last statement slide. I stand by my point, though. There are certain things now that can't be automatically used to indicate someone is or isn't a wolf. It's easy to do something that's obviously wolfish and then say, "If I was a wolf, would I do that?"
Its day one, so im talking in absolutes...just stating my opinion

[Blade6119]

*not in absolutes

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I'm out until after the lynch. I fully expect to be dead when I get back. I'm a nobody, so you won't be losing a seer or bodyguard, and hopefully you all will learn from something from this.

[spleen1015]

Spleen, I don't mean to pile up on you but you voting for Jon is more suspicious than voting for GE.

Or is the second vote on someone thing?

So many of these have been played, just about everything would be considered suspicious at this point. So, I think regardless of what I do, some suspicion can be placed on me.

[Barkeep49]

We need a lynch. It would be nice if people would pick between Jonathan or Spleen.

[Barkeep49]

I'm looking at you DC

[spleen1015]

We need a lynch. It would be nice if people would pick between Jonathan or Spleen.

Here's what I am talking about DC. This post by BK set alarm bells off in my head.

[spleen1015]

I've got bowling tonight, so both of the high vote getters are out until after lynch.

Hopefully I'm still alive when I get home.

[Barkeep49]

Why? Because I've said from the getgo that we need a lynch and she was in the thread and has a vote on not one of the top two? Go ahead and build a case around me. Feel free. All you'll get is a dead villager.

[spleen1015]

Dola,

The guest you see later will likely be me. I will be able to view the board on my Crackberry, but it won't let me sign in for some reason.

[spleen1015]

Why? Because I've said from the getgo that we need a lynch and she was in the thread and has a vote on not one of the top two? Go ahead and build a case around me. Feel free. All you'll get is a dead villager.

It is the absoluteness of you post. That's all. I was just using it as an example really. I don't have anything to build a case on, so I won't bother.

[Blade6119]

Go ahead and build a case around me. Feel free.

Careful, tempting me is not smart ;)

[Barkeep49]

Careful, tempting me is not smart ;)
What'll it take to tempt? I'd like to see you go to the effort if only to see how you'll have to squirm when I come up as squeaky clean as Mother Theresea.

[LoneStarGirl]

lol, you boys make me giggle.

Yes I did lie about everything in the last game, so dont hold that against anybody here. Also, Ge is about to get on, but where is Oliegirl? We need them both to vote jonathan to get a lynch, or somebody else needs to change over

[Barkeep49]

I'm willing to change over, certainly. I would love to see DC place her vote on one of the contenders. I'd say the same of AE but I think he's gone for the night. Is path gone? If not he too should switch.

[Poli]

I can pop in and out, but I don't know how active I'll be.

[GoldenEagle]

I am in favor of a lynch today. Why? Well, i am not wolf so therefore I would like to see a lynch. I am not sure if Jonathan is the right guy, but I will voting for his at this point is like voting for a lynch.

Vote Jonathan Ezarik

[Poli]

Unvote Dodgerchick

Vote Jonathan

[Barkeep49]

Hey ardent can you move your vote onto one of the two leading contenders?

[Barkeep49]

Nevermind.

[Poli]

Nope.

[Lorena]

I'm looking at you DC

You need to adjust your bifocals Mr. Barkeep because there ain't nothin' to see here.

[Lathum]

current vote count

Jonathan 6 ( Barkeep, AlanT, spleen, lonestargirl, ardent, goldeneagle)
Ardent 1 (Path)
GoldenEagle 1 ( Dodgerchick)
Spleen 2 ( Blade, jonathan)


not voted oliegirl

6 votes needed for lynch

[Barkeep49]

Nope.
Fine be that way. Good to see Africa didn't make you any less stuborn :)

[Barkeep49]

You need to adjust your bifocals Mr. Barkeep because there ain't nothin' to see here.
I'm looking at you DC for not voting for one of the two leading contenders.

[Barkeep49]

And let's just be clear here: I have 20/20 vision thanks to my glasses. Many of you non-glasses people can't make that same claim.

[Lathum]

Note- oliegirl contacted me through AIM and indicated she has no access currently to the board and may not be able to vote in time for the deadline.

[Poli]

Well, this much is certain, she doesn't want to vote AE.

[Lorena]

I'm looking at you DC for not voting for one of the two leading contenders.

Well it's a landslide right now so I don't see why you want me to do that other than to make it difficult to weed out a wolf from the bandwagon. I thought it was simple majority.

[oliegirl]

VOTE JONATHAN

Just got home and did a quick read through to catch up...

Note: I am switching from DSL to Cable modem tomorrow so might not be able to get online until early afternonn...but I am here :) Also, forgive any typing errors - I tore a tendon and/or ligament in my ring finger today and its splinted and taped to my middle finger, making typing a little difficult :(

[Barkeep49]

We need a majority of players, veruses the normal plurality. At the point this all started we didn't have a majority. At this point I suppose it's locked in for Jonathan.

[Lathum]

VOTE JONATHAN

Just got home and did a quick read through to catch up...

Note: I am switching from DSL to Cable modem tomorrow so might not be able to get online until early afternonn...but I am here :) Also, forgive any typing errors - I tore a tendon and/or ligament in my ring finger today and its splinted and taped to my middle finger, making typing a little difficult :(

yikes! I hope you are ok. I just switched from DSL to cable and it was the best thing i did

[LoneStarGirl]

oliegirl is here! but time is up

[Lathum]

deadline

[Lathum]

final vote count

Jonathan 7 ( Barkeep, AlanT, spleen, lonestargirl, ardent, goldeneagle, oliegirl)
Ardent 1 (Path)
GoldenEagle 1 ( Dodgerchick)
Spleen 2 ( Blade, jonathan)




6 votes needed for lynch

[Lathum]

After a day of heated discussion the majority of you focus on Jonathan. "He must be an alpha beta, he is a horrible magic the gathering player" someone shouts! The majority agrees and you force Jonathan to pack his bags and leave the house. As he leaves the house you see him jump on his moped and ride off down the street. There is no way an alpha beta would be caught on a moped!

Jonathan was a tri lambda!

[Lorena]

Jonathan was a tri lambda!

:D

[LoneStarGirl]

Well Jonathan was telling the truth. But this happens first day a couple of times.

[Lorena]

Whoops, quoted the wrong thing

There is no way an alpha beta would be caught on a moped!

Jonathan was a tri lambda! :o

[LoneStarGirl]

Good job DC but i still think some people are giong to go after you because you didn't vote for Jonathan

[Lorena]

DOH! Whoa, that made me look real bad. I'm feeding my kid and am a bit distracted

[Barkeep49]

Sorry Jonathan.

[Barkeep49]

I have no problem with DC not voting for Jonathan. I was just less pleased when we had 3 and 3 and it looked like we might not get a majority on either candidate and she had her vote on a third person.

[Lorena]

Good job DC but i still think some people are giong to go after you because you didn't vote for Jonathan

I misunderstood the rules apparently. That's fine, but I wasn't the only one that didn't vote for Jonathan.

[Poli]

Bummer.

[path12]

Good job DC but i still think some people are giong to go after you because you didn't vote for Jonathan

People are going to go after her because she didn't vote to lynch a good guy? :confused:

[path12]

Dola, sorry for being quiet today, I wasn't around the computer. I will be tomorrow.

[Lorena]

current vote count

Jonathan 6 ( Barkeep, AlanT, spleen, lonestargirl, ardent, goldeneagle)
Ardent 1 (Path)
GoldenEagle 1 ( Dodgerchick)
Spleen 2 ( Blade, jonathan)


not voted oliegirl

6 votes needed for lynch

Jeez, I'm such an idiot sometimes I totally missed that.

[Lathum]

You awake in the morning afraid of what horrors the alpha beta's have bestowed on you. Eventually everyone shows up in the common room. Maybe you have over reacted?

Day 2 has begun votes due by 9 PM EST. We will discuss the weekend schedule today.

[Blade6119]

Well someone likes me, or rather 2 people :) !!

I was attacked last night, and protected by booger. After booger saved me, he stayed around and we smoked up. Ill let him choose if he wants to reveal who he saw or not, but either way im thankful. We just caught a major break last night, and i did as well i suppose since im still alive.

[path12]

So you didn't see who attacked you? Just that Booger saved you?

[Blade6119]

So you didn't see who attacked you? Just that Booger saved you?

The scuffle occured outside my room...i was unaware anyone was there until booger came in. Booger told me he fought the AB, told me he knew who it was, and told me it was time to celebrate by getting high as a kite. He didnt tell me who it was, but my PM seemed clear that he knew. Whether he chooses to reveal is his business, as i have no idea if the bad guys know who he is. Frankly i hope he doesnt, but gives me a hint today as to who it was in case he is killed.

[path12]

Tough call. I almost lean toward the view that in a game like this we've got two bad guys at most and if someone can identify 50% of the evil, that might be worth the reveal. I guess we'll see. If he/she isn't 100% sure who made the attack they should keep quiet though.

[Alan T]

I assume if the bodyguard knows who attacked, then the attacker knows who the bodyguard is. Don't see how it would be where only one side identified the other.

So if the bodyguard knows who attacked, there is no benefit to hiding the information or not telling it. And in fact revealing the information then tells us what side 30% of the players in the game is on. Thats not a small chunk of information.

[Barkeep49]

I agree that the BG should come forward though I do not think that this clears Blade. However, we's now nowhere near the top of my suspects list.

[Alan T]

Well in games where conversions are possible, I don't know how anyone is ever 100% cleared, but I would have to guess out of 10 people left, 9 + yourself, you would have to have Blade as #3 on the list behind yourself and the bodyguard.

I can't imagine the wolves targeting their own member for a night kill with the 10% chance that they might get lucky and he is guarded to buy him trust. Thats a bit of a reach even for me.

A few questions in my head.. Why did the bodyguard not protect himself, was it very clear to the bodyguard that they were after Blade, or possible they were after the bodyguard. (ie: does the bodyguard have a description in this game that they can't be night killed, or would the only way he fights off an attack is to specifically guard the person being attacked).

Im pretty sure if the bodyguard came out and said I was guarding blade, he was attacked and this person was the attacker, it would damn 1 and pretty much clear 2 others.

[Alan T]

Another reason why the bodyguard should likely reveal as long as they have information on who the attacker was and can verify Blade was the target of the attack:

Without verification, you either have to trust Blade's story or not based on his word. (Not always safe in a WW game, but chances of him faking that reveal is fairly unlikely).

If we have 9 other people to choose today for votes, and assume there are 2 bad guys, that is a 22% chance of correctly hitting on a wolf today. If we -assume- Blade is telling the truth, that is still a 25% chance of hitting a wolf today.

Now if a bodyguard can identify a wolf, and can give credence to Blade's story, that not only gives us a wolf today, but it makes tommorrow vote a 20% chance of getting the last wolf, buys our seer more time and brings us close to finishing the game.

[spleen1015]

Hopefully, the BG has something good to tell us today.

Some suspicion needs to be placed on Dodgerchick. She didn't switch her vote when she could help us get a lynch and I don't believe that she has been misreading and misposting like she claims.

[LoneStarGirl]

Well we got lucky as hell last night. I am all for the BG revealing who did the killing because if Alant is right, we only have 2 wolves and this would make the game a lot easier. But that also means Booger is revealed and he will probably be killed tonight, which might hurt us in the long run

[Blade6119]

What'll it take to tempt? I'd like to see you go to the effort if only to see how you'll have to squirm when I come up as squeaky clean as Mother Theresea.

You know, yesterday i was joking about going after you...today im not. For the time being, obviously open to change if the bg reveals, im going to place my vote on you

VOTE BARKEEP

Some of your comments yesterday made me uneasy(like saying lynch one of these two), but it was the new perspective after the night that one post stood out to me. 5 people didnt vote for Jon at the time of the comment, and you called out 3 of them(all but jon, who was dying, and myself). Now, normally id assume you forgot and let it go then and there. But then i am the choice for night attack, which sheds new light on your post yesterday.

In the games ive played with you, ive not known you to provoke me often when good. This mornings comments you put forward also dont make me sit easy in regards to you. I trust 2 people besides myself, 1 about 90% and one about 85%. Your not either one...if you have any questions, ill be back in like 3-4 hours

[Alan T]

Well we got lucky as hell last night. I am all for the BG revealing who did the killing because if Alant is right, we only have 2 wolves and this would make the game a lot easier. But that also means Booger is revealed and he will probably be killed tonight, which might hurt us in the long run

Like I said before, if the Bodyguard knows who the attacker is, what are the chances that the attacker doesn't know who the bodyguard is?

Usually these things work in pairs. I don't remember many times where the information is onesided. So the bodyguard revealing the name of the attacker only tells the rest of us information that the bad guys already have.

[Barkeep49]

The people I called out? These were people in the thread at the time. I actually did call out AE and path at one point but I believed they weren't around hence my focus on those who were around. Blade you're always itching to get rid of me. I love it. I love having respect for my game. However, if you're on the side of good than you should agree my aggressive efforts at a lynch are for the right underlying reason. You notice that despite my starting the voting, I never pushed Jonathan because I knew it was a random vote. I just wanted to make sure we had a lynch. In a game that requires majority I didn't want to see us fall short. If you don't like that, so be it, but thems the facts.

Oh one more fact: I'm still a good guy.

[Barkeep49]

Oh and granted you already know who the BG is, but don't you think it's a little premature to be voting until we hear fully what he knows?

[Barkeep49]

He or she that is.

[Barkeep49]

Blade I slightly misread your post, though my underlying point remains the same, but let me clarify. I called out the people who weren't voting for Spleen or Jonathan. Now as time went on it became clear it was going to be Jonathan, but I was never opposed to a two horse race. So you and Jonathan were spared because you were on spleen, who when I started agitating around 5:30 central was one of the two leading contenders.

Now besides the fact that your internal logic is crap (I don't call you out which makes be bad because when I'm good I don't confront you) that is some REALLY weak sauce from you in terms of bringing it on.

[Alan T]

that is some REALLY weak sauce from you in terms of bringing it on.


Is that you Kirsten Dunst??

[Lathum]

any suggestions on play for the weekend?

[Alan T]

any suggestions on play for the weekend?

I won't be around for much discussion, but I will be able to pop in long enough to read any light conversations that occured and place a vote each day.

I don't have any problems going full speed ahead with the weekend.

[Barkeep49]

Well in a small game if Ardent is still around for the weekend I guess we should slow it a little, otherwise I too am in favor of full speed ahead.

[spleen1015]

I won't be available after 7pm tomorrow. Other than that, I am free for the weekend.

Whatever we decide, I'll be able to vote.

[oliegirl]

Like I said before, if the Bodyguard knows who the attacker is, what are the chances that the attacker doesn't know who the bodyguard is?

Usually these things work in pairs. I don't remember many times where the information is onesided. So the bodyguard revealing the name of the attacker only tells the rest of us information that the bad guys already have.

Wouldn't it be a good thing to have the same info as the bad guys? I don't see how knowing 1 of the 2 bad guys would turn out to be a negative thing for us...

[LoneStarGirl]

I am all for playing this weekend, my mom will be in town but I will still make time to pop in and discuss and vote

[Alan T]

Wouldn't it be a good thing to have the same info as the bad guys? I don't see how knowing 1 of the 2 bad guys would turn out to be a negative thing for us...


Thats the point I am trying to make :)

[path12]

I've got no problem with the weekend.

[Lorena]

Some suspicion needs to be placed on Dodgerchick. She didn't switch her vote when she could help us get a lynch and I don't believe that she has been misreading and misposting like she claims.

It's the truth, much like your mistake with Hob, Nob or whatever the hell it was in the Middle Earth game. I haven't been looking as closely at posts cuz I've been pretty busy IRL. You see my name in the thread, but how do you know if I'm at the keyboard?

Anyone that has a 2 year old can understand the demands of raising them (temper tantrums, etc) and when the kid wants something, he wants it NOW.

You can choose to believe me or not, it doesn't matter. I mean this is WW and people talk out of their asses more often than not.

[Lorena]

any suggestions on play for the weekend?

I'm cool with whatever Lathum

[Alan T]

So we've had alot of the day pass so far and no sign of the bodyguard announcing anything. So I assume we take this as a sign of the bodyguard not knowing who attacked last night, thus no great reason to reveal anything about themselves or Blade. I still feel Blade coming out with a BS story that could easily be refuted is something a wolf wouldn't do as it still gives the 1 for 1 swap that we don't mind.

I have to go to a meeting that will likely take up most of my afternoon in 1 hour. I will likely be gone tonight to movies or something. So if nothing presents itself in the next hour, I'll have to take another semi-random guess.

For my choice for today, I likely won't vote Blade for reasons I already stated, and for now, am leaning to voting for Barkeep to help put my vote somewhere that already has a vote before I go. I don't really get a horrible feel about Barkeep but if nothing else I assume he is not the bodyguard as Blade supposedly knows who the bodyguard is.

That gives me a 25% chance that Barkeep is bad, 12.5% chance he is the seer, 12.5% chance he is the duke and a 50% chance he is a normal villager.

Not the best odds in the world, but the best I have to work with due to my lack of information.

[Alan T]

Eh my math there is a bit skewed because I didn't figure Blade in it and assume Blade is good, but dont know if Blade is vanilla villager or seer or duke.

Either way figuring Blade in, its a 71% chance that Barkeep is good, 29% chance he is bad based on what I -do- know.

For everyone else in the game right now its a 75% - 25% chance, so I'll likely go with the odds and vote Barkeep if nothing else presents itself before I have to go.

[LoneStarGirl]

It is so funny to see people throw out math. I am a math teacher and most of the time I dont even get the percentages

[LoneStarGirl]

I am kind of leaning towards path or dodgerchick for not voting for Jonathan or changing their vote. But we dont know if either was on after they voted TO change their vote.

[path12]

I'm waiting to hear from everyone today before voting, there's still a couple of people who haven't checked in yet since the night results.

I think the whole rationale from spleen and LSG regarding mine and DC's votes is totally silly -- if you want to punish me for NOT voting for a good guy go ahead, but be ready to find yourself on the block right after you find out I'm simply a nerd.

[spleen1015]

It's the truth, much like your mistake with Hob, Nob or whatever the hell it was in the Middle Earth game.

You got me there. Now you have me doubting my inital feeling. Why to go! :D

[spleen1015]

I'm waiting to hear from everyone today before voting, there's still a couple of people who haven't checked in yet since the night results.

I think the whole rationale from spleen and LSG regarding mine and DC's votes is totally silly -- if you want to punish me for NOT voting for a good guy go ahead, but be ready to find yourself on the block right after you find out I'm simply a nerd.

:confused: I haven't mentioned you at all this game, have I?

[Alan T]

It is so funny to see people throw out math. I am a math teacher and most of the time I dont even get the percentages


Its pretty easy actually. I just did it in notepad.

We have 10 people left, we know there are 1 seer, 1 bodyguard, 1 duke and 5 vanilla good guys left along with 2 wolves based on the game rules listed at the start.

We assume:
Blade knows who the bodyguard is.
Blade was attacked last night and protected.

Thus if Blade is good, he takes up one of our 8 good guy spots left. If Blade voted for Barkeep, we assume Barkeep is not the bodyguard. I know I am a vanilla good guy, that takes up one of the 8 good guy spots left.

That leaves 6 good guy spots of which 1 of them Barkeep likely isn't (the bodyguard).

So after that math, it means Barkeep could possibly be 1 of the 2 wolf spots, or 1 of 5 remaining good guy spots. So if Barkeep has a 5/7ths chance of being good in my mind, thats 71%, or a 29% chance of being bad.

For any other player in the game other than myself or Blade, I get 75-25%. So I get a 4% better odds of barkeep being bad based on Blade's activity than anyone else I could vote for.

[Poli]

I'm fine with whichever, but I can't guarantee I'll add much over the weekend.

About to hit the road.

VOTE DODGERCHICK

Just to get a vote in.

[Lorena]

It is so funny to see people throw out math. I am a math teacher and most of the time I dont even get the percentages

http://stellastyle.com/community2/forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Lorena]

You got me there. Now you have me doubting my inital feeling. Why to go! :D

:)

Well I don't have any other suspects other than Barkeep for "suspecting" me. I can see his rush to get a villager killed if he were a bad guy, but on the other hand, there's that small possibility that we DO get a bad guy the first day.

First day lynches are such a crapshoot. More likely than not we get a villager but there's that chance, however small it is, that we could get a wolf.

I'll have to think about it some more. I'm out for a while as I have a lot of reading to do. I had to jump through hoops to get Ant to play *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* ;)

[path12]

:confused: I haven't mentioned you at all this game, have I?

Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to your suspicions of DC, not me. LSG was the one who mentioned me but both of your reasons seemed the same so I lumped you together.

[path12]

Dola, I have no feeling one way or the other regarding DC, but I'm certainly not going to vote her based on her day 1 vote.

[Blade6119]

Now besides the fact that your internal logic is crap (I don't call you out which makes be bad because when I'm good I don't confront you) that is some REALLY weak sauce from you in terms of bringing it on.

If i wanted to bury you last night gave me all the ammo i needed. I easily could have ID'd you as the bad guy who attacked me and the group would have lynched you in a heartbeat. Now, since i dont know if it was you i wont say that. But if you want sauce, i can bring it.

[LoneStarGirl]

The nastiness between Blade and Barkeep really bother me. Last game I was bad with Blade and Lathum and intentionally they got into numerous fights on the thread to make everybody believe they were not wolves together. And now the same thing seems to happen. I dont think Blade is dumb enough to pull that move again, but he just might

[LoneStarGirl]

If i wanted to bury you last night gave me all the ammo i needed. I easily could have ID'd you as the bad guy who attacked me and the group would have lynched you in a heartbeat. Now, since i dont know if it was you i wont say that. But if you want sauce, i can bring it.

Blade, if you did that after we lynched BK and found he was good (If he was) you would be the next to die. So that wouldn't have been smart, and you know that.... which is probably why you didn't do it.

[LoneStarGirl]

My mom will be in town around 4, so i want to vote before then. There is a chance I will be able to get online tonight before the vote is due. Hopefully the BG gets online before 4 and reveals, or more information is given so I can make an educated vote

[spleen1015]

I dont think Blade is dumb enough to pull that move again, but he just might

This is my thinking as well. I don't see Blade trying it again so quickly.

[Alan T]

The nastiness between Blade and Barkeep really bother me. Last game I was bad with Blade and Lathum and intentionally they got into numerous fights on the thread to make everybody believe they were not wolves together. And now the same thing seems to happen. I dont think Blade is dumb enough to pull that move again, but he just might

Well its easy enough for a bodyguard to refute what he is saying if he is indeed lying. The difference this game is that he came out and said he was attacked, guarded by a bodyguard and knows who the bodyguard is because they spent time together after.

Any of which the bodyguard could say he is lying about if he was. So I give more credence to what he is saying this game vs last game where I smelled it fishy.

Anyways time for me to move along to my all afternoon live meeting/conf call. I might have chances to pop in to check on this (no idea). Just in case, here is my vote.

Vote Barkeep

[path12]

My mom will be in town around 4, so i want to vote before then. There is a chance I will be able to get online tonight before the vote is due. Hopefully the BG gets online before 4 and reveals, or more information is given so I can make an educated vote

If I'm not mistaken, there's only one person who hasn't posted since the night actions, so the BG may not be revealing yet......

[Barkeep49]

If i wanted to bury you last night gave me all the ammo i needed. I easily could have ID'd you as the bad guy who attacked me and the group would have lynched you in a heartbeat. Now, since i dont know if it was you i wont say that. But if you want sauce, i can bring it.
Ahh I see. Blade has no ethics. So Blade is willing to outright lie, though he didn't here he claims, in order to advance his cause, even that of the villagers. I mean Blade you claim I'm a bad guy who attacks you. I die and come up clean. Suddenly you're dead too. If you're a villager, and please notice I think that you are, then you've cost the team TWO good guys.

[Barkeep49]

Alan I'm disappointed to see you hide behind math rather than your intuition. In fact the two days in a row of casting the second vote is enough to make me look your way today as we seem bereft of the benefit of knowing who the BG is.

Vote Alan

[GoldenEagle]

I am not sure I believe Blade 100%, but I can see why he would be protected. Blade is the type of player who is going to scare wolves, especially in a small game. The bodyguard knew this and protected Blade. It makes sense, but maybe too much sense?

[LoneStarGirl]

I am thinking along the same lines as Barkeep. I HATE being the second person to vote for somebody, but I do not like the fact that Alant has cast the 2nd vote twice. Plus, I was waiting on GE to come on because he was the only person to not post today and I was thinking maybe he was the BG.

vote alant

[Blade6119]

Ahh I see. Blade has no ethics. So Blade is willing to outright lie, though he didn't here he claims, in order to advance his cause, even that of the villagers. I mean Blade you claim I'm a bad guy who attacks you. I die and come up clean. Suddenly you're dead too. If you're a villager, and please notice I think that you are, then you've cost the team TWO good guys.

lol, your explaining my actions today. I said if i wanted to bury you i could of...you said weak sauce, and you just explained to yourself why i didnt bury you. lol, much love bk

[Alan T]

You guys are amazing. I give my reasons for voting people well in advance, and you wait till after I leave (which I announced when I was leaving well in advance) to vote for me and make cases against me?

Fine vote for me if you want. You can't argue that my reasoning is not sound, and without knowing anything else that went on, its the only thing I have to go on for now. I waited as long as I could before my meeting today to see if anyone presented anything, but no one has other than "Gee I dont like how so and so has played because he looked the wrong way when he voted for so and so".

I'll be around for the next 20-30 minutes until I leave work. if you wish to address me directly so be it. I highly doubt you will since you hid until I left to then try to jump out and throw a bandwagon on me.

[Alan T]

It looks just like I figured. They don't want to face me directly, so I fully expect them to come out firing again once I leave for the night.

Instead of making claims that I am evil for using mathematic odds, which I have done many many many times before in situations like this to try to increase my odds of getting a bad guy when I don't know sqwat.. why don't you come up with a real case against me. Why not answer why you two are voting together every day, why you both tossed out suspicion at Jonathan during the day lightheartedly, why you both are trying to discredit Blade whom made a reveal that is very easily disputed if it was a lie.

What you two are doing right now is trying to discredit the person who so far should have the most trust (Blade) with your little subtle comments (or in some cases not so subtle), and then came firing at me since I voted for one of you two. Hell I dont know if one or both of you are wolves, but you two sure are affiliating with each other nice and easily.

You both know that I am an early game seer target in many games, and both expect either by today or tommorrow I likely will have been scanned, so taking me out now while you still have a chance is an easy way to save a necessary night kill later.

I'm keeping my vote where it is, and now not only does the math make sense, your actions make sense for me to keep it here also.

I'm heading home and might not check in until home from the movies well past deadline (depending on when I leave home for the movies).

[spleen1015]

Vote count thus far

2 - Barkeep - Blade(169), Alan T(204)
2 - Alan T - Barkeep(207), LSG(209)
1 - Dodgerchick - ardent(194)

Yet to vote - path, DC, oliegirl, GE, spleen

[spleen1015]

It looks just like I figured. They don't want to face me directly, so I fully expect them to come out firing again once I leave for the night.

Instead of making claims that I am evil for using mathematic odds, which I have done many many many times before in situations like this to try to increase my odds of getting a bad guy when I don't know sqwat.. why don't you come up with a real case against me. Why not answer why you two are voting together every day, why you both tossed out suspicion at Jonathan during the day lightheartedly, why you both are trying to discredit Blade whom made a reveal that is very easily disputed if it was a lie.

What you two are doing right now is trying to discredit the person who so far should have the most trust (Blade) with your little subtle comments (or in some cases not so subtle), and then came firing at me since I voted for one of you two. Hell I dont know if one or both of you are wolves, but you two sure are affiliating with each other nice and easily.

You both know that I am an early game seer target in many games, and both expect either by today or tommorrow I likely will have been scanned, so taking me out now while you still have a chance is an easy way to save a necessary night kill later.

I'm keeping my vote where it is, and now not only does the math make sense, your actions make sense for me to keep it here also.

I'm heading home and might not check in until home from the movies well past deadline (depending on when I leave home for the movies).

I can't see the wolves playing this way. You're not the only person that noticed this and I think Barkeep is too smart to let things happen like this.

I don't really know what I'm going to do today. We'll see what happens in the next 4.5 hours.

[GoldenEagle]

I say we put some pressure on Blade and see what happens. How do we know that the attacker figured out who Booger was last night? Maybe he had something along the lines of something like "Booger stopped your attack" with no indication as to who Booger is.

[Lathum]

fyi-5 votes needed for lynch

[oliegirl]

I'm not convinced that DC is a wolf, I have my suspicions, but am not ready to cast a vote for her yet. I'm leaning toward Blade, but again - am not convinced...anyone have any other thoughts/observations that might make me say "AHA - it is her/him!!!"????

[Lorena]

This second vote thing is a pretty flimsly reason to vote for someone and wolves have used this in the past to get someone lynched.

vote barkeep

He was being way too aggressive to get Jon lynched yesterday. He called out AE, path and myself because we wouldn't switch over and it just seems suspicious.

[path12]

OK, everyone has checked in now and nobody has claimed to be the bodyguard who blocked the attack on Blade. Ergo:

1) Booger did not get a look at who attacked Blade.
or
2) Blade was not guarded and made up the story that he was. This seems unlikely, mainly because nobody was killed last night and barring conversion (which I don't think is in the game) it indicates a blocked attack.
or
3) Blade was the attacker who was blocked and is trying to figure out who blocked him. If this was the case, I would think Booger would have called him out, so I don't think this was likely either.

Now then, I need to go back through posts and see who I'm going to vote for. Offhand I'm not thrilled with either BK or Alan, but maybe a refresher will change my mind.

[path12]

The scuffle occured outside my room...i was unaware anyone was there until booger came in. Booger told me he fought the AB, told me he knew who it was, and told me it was time to celebrate by getting high as a kite. He didnt tell me who it was, but my PM seemed clear that he knew. Whether he chooses to reveal is his business, as i have no idea if the bad guys know who he is. Frankly i hope he doesnt, but gives me a hint today as to who it was in case he is killed.

If that bolded part is true I can't figure out why the BG hasn't revealed.

[path12]

Instead of making claims that I am evil for using mathematic odds, which I have done many many many times before in situations like this to try to increase my odds of getting a bad guy when I don't know sqwat.. why don't you come up with a real case against me.

I don't think anyone said they were voting you for using mathematic odds, but rather because you were the 2nd vote on someone for two days in a row -- which is a valid reason in the absence of better info or analysis.

I find it odd that yesterday you expected to get votes put on you for being the 2nd voter on JE, but today are surprised to see anyone voting for you despite doing that for the second day straight.

[Barkeep49]

Path I agree. So the BG is trying to be inconspicuous. This means either the BG hasn't voted, in hopes of finding out information from his/her moves today OR the BG has voted and isn't coming right out with the information. Just in case it is the latter I will

Unvote AlanT
Vote Dodgerchick

I'm around for another half hour or so before I head to basketball practice (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=52421). I might be back before lynch, but I might not.

Each of the last few games I've either been killed quickly by the bad guys or been a good guy and attracted a lot of early attention. Each time I've been a human. I've been nice, been quiet, been loud, been all sorts of things, so if you want to kill me for how I've been in this game, I understand, but that doesn't mean it isn't a mistake.

[Blade6119]

3-2-1, and we need 5 for a lynch...so people need to start placing their votes.

[Barkeep49]

I was agreeing with path about why the BG hasn't revealed based on what Blade said but his point in 221 is also something I agree with.

[path12]

Just went through the whole thread again. It's way too early for any kind of trust list, but it kind of sucks that the three people who are pinging my radar have no votes today. I have to leave in half an hour so will need to figure out whether to put a vote on one of the two leaders (most likely) or on someone I really suspect.

[Blade6119]

Path I agree. So the BG is trying to be inconspicuous. This means either the BG hasn't voted, in hopes of finding out information from his/her moves today OR the BG has voted and isn't coming right out with the information. Just in case it is the latter I will

Unvote AlanT
Vote Dodgerchick

I'm around for another half hour or so before I head to basketball practice (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=52421). I might be back before lynch, but I might not.

Each of the last few games I've either been killed quickly by the bad guys or been a good guy and attracted a lot of early attention. Each time I've been a human. I've been nice, been quiet, been loud, been all sorts of things, so if you want to kill me for how I've been in this game, I understand, but that doesn't mean it isn't a mistake.
DC and alan have both already voted, so how does that account for your reason?

Also, nice whoring of your dynasty :p

[path12]

BK, why did you switch to DC from Alan? Out of the three of you he'd be the one I'd be most likely to vote for.

[path12]

Also, nice whoring of your dynasty :p

To be fair, it's a really good dynasty to read......

[Blade6119]

To be fair, it's a really good dynasty to read......

i read it, im well aware

[Barkeep49]

DC and alan have both already voted, so how does that account for your reason?

Also, nice whoring of your dynasty :p
So either the BG is someone who hasn't voted, that's option 1.

Or the BG has voted, but is trying to stay on the downlow with who the bad guy is. I know I'm not the bad guy.

So that leaves the possibility, in the second scenario, that either Ardent or LSG is the BG. Of the two of them I see Ardent as far more likely to make this play (and if you did make this play really sorry to have brought it so out in the open buddy) thus I changed my vote from Alan to DC.

[Blade6119]

So either the BG is someone who hasn't voted, that's option 1.

Or the BG has voted, but is trying to stay on the downlow with who the bad guy is. I know I'm not the bad guy.

So that leaves the possibility, in the second scenario, that either Ardent or LSG is the BG. Of the two of them I see Ardent as far more likely to make this play (and if you did make this play really sorry to have brought it so out in the open buddy) thus I changed my vote from Alan to DC.

Your not making sense..your talking about ardent and lsg then out of left field conclude with DC...confused?

[Barkeep49]

And thank you. I appreciate the recognition of my shameless whoring. I was a whore once in WW, I figured, so why not be one again :)? I will say that besides my interest in wanting people to read it, I wanted to make sure that my not being around, or maybe being around, wasn't something I had just hatched up. Rather the dynasty sorta proves that I'm not BS'ing about my schedule tonight around lynch.

[Barkeep49]

Your not making sense..your talking about ardent and lsg then out of left field conclude with DC...confused?
Three people have received votes today: me, Alan, and DC.

I'm suggesting that perhaps the BG has voted for the person you claim he/she saw. I know, for a fact, that I'm not guilty. So, according to spleen's tally, only two people have cast votes, that are not on me or by me: LSG and Ardent.

If ardent is the BG, I could see him not coming out publicly with this knowledge and instead voting for the person he saw. Therefore, I'm following his lead and voting for DC.

[path12]

Your not making sense..your talking about ardent and lsg then out of left field conclude with DC...confused?

I didn't get it either.

[Blade6119]

Three people have received votes today: me, Alan, and DC.

I'm suggesting that perhaps the BG has voted for the person you claim he/she saw. I know, for a fact, that I'm not guilty. So, according to spleen's tally, only two people have cast votes, that are not on me or by me: LSG and Ardent.

If ardent is the BG, I could see him not coming out publicly with this knowledge and instead voting for the person he saw. Therefore, I'm following his lead and voting for DC.
Now i understand your reasoning, thank you

[path12]

Three people have received votes today: me, Alan, and DC.

I'm suggesting that perhaps the BG has voted for the person you claim he/she saw. I know, for a fact, that I'm not guilty. So, according to spleen's tally, only two people have cast votes, that are not on me or by me: LSG and Ardent.

If ardent is the BG, I could see him not coming out publicly with this knowledge and instead voting for the person he saw. Therefore, I'm following his lead and voting for DC.

I see now. I think Blade would have followed that if your suspicion was correct.

[path12]

I'm going to:

VOTE ALAN T

He's the only one with votes I come up with a valid reason for: the 2 second votes on someone both days. Not thrilled with it, but like I said, the people I have the worst feelings about aren't getting any votes.

[path12]

Crap. Forgot to bold.

VOTE ALAN T

[Barkeep49]

I see now. I think Blade would have followed that if your suspicion was correct.
I think so too now that he understand what I'm saying. So I guess I will switch back to Alan, who I personally have found more suspicious. I was glad to see someone else bring up the point that he expected attention yesterday for voting second, was surprised when he didn't get it, and then casts the second vote again today and is suddenly surprised about receiving attention for it.

Unvote DC
Vote AlanT

[path12]

Well, I've gotta run. Won't be back until probably tomorrow morning. Good luck, fellow nerds!

[Barkeep49]

Ok I too am out for the moment, and possibly until after lynch.

[Lathum]

hey all, we have company from out of town and are going to dinner. Lynch results may be a little late.

[Lathum]

Current vote count

3 - Barkeep - Blade(169), Alan T(204), Dodgerchick ( 218)
3 - Alan T - LSG(209), path (238). Barkeep(239)
1 - Dodgerchick - ardent(194)

Yet to vote - oliegirl, GE, spleen

[Blade6119]

Alan isnt voting himself, thats barkeep...and DC only had one vote, ardent...so just move barkeep into that alan vote

[Lathum]

Alan isnt voting himself, thats barkeep...and DC only had one vote, ardent...so just move barkeep into that alan vote

i already did . Big brother :)

[spleen1015]

VOTE Dodgerchick

I know this isn't one of the two with 3 votes, but she is the one I suspect to be a wolf most, so this is where I place my vote right now.

[Lathum]

Current vote count

3 - Barkeep - Blade(169), Alan T(204), Dodgerchick ( 218)
3 - Alan T - LSG(209), path (238). Barkeep(239)
2 - Dodgerchick - ardent(194), Spleen (246)

Yet to vote - oliegirl, GE, spleen

[GoldenEagle]

How come no one has stepped for to corroborate Blade's story? Blade is either being very noble here or he is a wolf. I am not sure which one he is.

[GoldenEagle]

I will should be on right before lynch time, but I am going to go ahead and vote for Barkeep. I am not sure if he is a wolf, in fact, I do not think he is. But we will find out more info on Blade if we lynch Barkeep. If Blade knows who it was, then he would vote for him, right?

Vote Barkeep49

[spleen1015]

The BG should definitely speak up if Blade's story is false. I leave it up to them otherwise at this point.

FYI, if I was the BG and I knew who a bad guys was, I would be willing to sacrifice myself for the good of the Nerds.