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HornedFrog Purple
02-18-2003, 12:00 PM
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/5205733.htm

IRVING - The next 48 hours should answer the question: Is Cowboys running back Emmitt Smith going to be back in Dallas next season?

All signs point to no, with an announcement likely to come today.

Nobody around Valley Ranch is definitively saying Smith is gone, deferring comment until after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Smith have had a chance to sit down. Scheduling conflicts had delayed any meeting, but both Jones and Smith were at Valley Ranch on Monday. Smith came in to work out around 5 a.m. and left around 7:30 a.m. while Jones spent a good portion of Monday in his office.

Neither Smith nor Jones was available for comment.

What is known is the Cowboys and coach Bill Parcells prefer to have the Smith question answered before leaving for the NFL Scouting Combine, which begins today in Indianapolis. Most of the Cowboys' personnel are scheduled to leave this afternoon.

Thursday is the first day teams can begin cutting players, which, if Jones decides to make a clean break as Valley Ranch insiders expect him to, means the NFL's all-time leading rusher could be cut along with cornerback Dwayne Goodrich and fullback Robert Thomas.

Jones chafed not too long ago at the suggestion the decision already had been made to cut Smith, telling the Star-Telegram: "No one in our organization can say Emmitt isn't coming back or what role he would have to take or what he's going to be making because I don't think even I know that right now."

And while nobody but Jones can say for sure Smith won't be back, nobody, including Jones, has even hinted he might be.

While Parcells has been heard saying he would like to have left tackle Flozell Adams around in 2003 and Jones has said he expected quarterback Quincy Carter back next season, no such proclamations have been made about Smith. There hasn't been a single indication from either Jones or Parcells that they believe Smith is still a No. 1 running back, nor have there been any hints if he would be a suitable mentor for Troy Hambrick.

The soon-to-be 34-year-old Smith rushed for 975 yards in 2002, his lowest output since his rookie year. He had two 100-yard games, tying a career low, had no runs longer than 30 yards and his 3.8 yards per rush ranked in the bottom third of the NFL.

He did accomplish this behind what may have been the worst and most unstable offensive line in the league, giving himself and others reason to believe he could still be a 1,000-yard back. Nothing has indicated the Cowboys are among the others and, if not, there is little reason for him to return.

Smith has been unafraid in his career to complain if he did not feel he was getting enough carries in a game, and it's doubtful fighting for a job with Hambrick would sit well with him. So he is left in a position that many veterans face toward the end of their careers, believing they can play but struggling to convince others.

It happened to wide receiver Jerry Rice, who was cut by the 49ers team for which he won three Super Bowls and promptly went across the bay to Oakland, where he has been productive the past two seasons.

Perhaps coincidentally, those same Raiders, as well as the Panthers and Buccaneers, are rumored to be interested in Smith if the Cowboys decide to cut him.

He is scheduled to make $7 million and count $9.8 million against the salary cap in 2003, but sources have said the Cowboys wouldn't bring him back for anything more than $1 million.

If he is cut before June 1, the cap hit would be $5.9 million. If he is cut on or after June 1, he'll count $2.8 million against the cap this season and $2.1 million next season. The cost-cutting move would be to wait, but Jones' history says he won't. In deference to Smith, he'll let him go early enough so he can see if he can play elsewhere next season.

Of course, the wild card is Jones' heart.

He is known to be fiercely loyal to the players who helped win Super Bowls for the Cowboys, which is one reason things have dragged on as long as they have. But the combine is coming, with Parcells' Feb. 26 team meeting and free agency not too far behind, and the Cowboys need to have this situation resolved.

So expect the next 48 hours to provide plenty of answers.

Kodos
02-18-2003, 12:57 PM
It's sad that the NFL has no loyalty to great players. Montana, Rice, Marino... Very few of the great ones get to go out on their own terms and with the teams that they gave so much to. Smith is way too good of a person to be a Cowboy. He and Aikman did not fit in with the rest of the hooligans and criminals. Smith was an island of classiness in a classless organization. I hope he finds a good team to pick him up for one last run to glory.

JeeberD
02-18-2003, 01:09 PM
It's a sad, sad day in Cowboy country...:( :( :( :( :(

HornedFrog Purple
02-18-2003, 01:40 PM
This has to be one of the most depressing sports pages I have ever seen. A picture of Pudge in some foreign uniform and the probable loss of Emmitt on the front page. :(

Kodos at least you can say Marino retired a Dolphin, I will not comment on the rest of it. ;)

bbor
02-18-2003, 01:42 PM
I hope he calls it a career....enough is enough...get out while you can still walk.

sachmo71
02-18-2003, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
It's sad that the NFL has no loyalty to great players. Montana, Rice, Marino... Very few of the great ones get to go out on their own terms and with the teams that they gave so much to. Smith is way too good of a person to be a Cowboy. He and Aikman did not fit in with the rest of the hooligans and criminals. Smith was an island of classiness in a classless organization. I hope he finds a good team to pick him up for one last run to glory.

I agree 100%, except there are a few more who do not fit into the "hooligan" mold.

rkmsuf
02-18-2003, 01:45 PM
Emmitt can still play the question is can he play like a starter. There's no denying his accomplishments or toughness but he has lost a step or two.

He can still put up 3.7-4.0 yards a carry but for a team going in a whole new direction it's wise to part ways and look at some guys with upside.

HornedFrog Purple
02-18-2003, 01:51 PM
Hehe Flozell Adams is hardly upside.

Emmitt never really had a step to begin with, but it does seem he still has his uncanny vision. Give him a respectable offensive line and I still think he is one of the top-10 backs in the league.

rkmsuf
02-18-2003, 01:53 PM
that may be true but a solid line they do not have. Parcells is known as a smash mouth guy but I suspect he's going to look for speed, speed, speed in the backfield...

sabotai
02-18-2003, 01:54 PM
I hardly think this is a loyalty thing. Smith is going to count a lot towards the cap, Dallas is not going to get enough from him to justify the cost...why keep him? Why should Dallas shoot themselves for the next few years and kill their cap to keep Smith on?

I agree, it sucks. It'd be nice if Smith could stay. But it's Jones' job to win, not keep old stars around for sentimental value.

HornedFrog Purple
02-18-2003, 01:55 PM
Right now he needs speed speed speed at QB. :)

kid_dynamite
02-18-2003, 01:56 PM
the question is, can troy hambrick step in and perform better than an aging smith? i know there should be loyalty to the guy since he has been around with the cowboys since his first game but it comes to a point where if you have someone younger and that can perform better for much less money (i assume) then you might have to just go your seperate ways.

if i was a dallas fan i might have more of a want to say keep him though so i am biased negatively

AgPete
02-18-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
It's sad that the NFL has no loyalty to great players. Montana, Rice, Marino... Very few of the great ones get to go out on their own terms and with the teams that they gave so much to. Smith is way too good of a person to be a Cowboy. He and Aikman did not fit in with the rest of the hooligans and criminals. Smith was an island of classiness in a classless organization. I hope he finds a good team to pick him up for one last run to glory.

No loyalty to great players? If there is any one team that holds on to veterans a lot longer than they should out of loyalty and suffers tremendous cap casualties because of it, it's the Dallas Cowboys! Troy Aikman was kept until he physically couldnt hack it. Larry Allen was signed to a long term contract when he still had two years left on his current contract and a recent history of decline and injuries. Darren Woodson got a fat contract even though the next Hall of Fame safety (Roy Williams) was waiting to fill his shoes. Eric Williams and Nate Newton were kept too long. The Ravens grabbed Williams in midseason out of desperation. Leon Lett obviously had nothing left in his tank. Jerry Jones kept Moose and Michael Irvin until they couldn't physically play. Emmitt remained the starter last year out of loyalty when it was probably time to start looking at youth. Don't associate the Cowboys with other teams like the 49ers that let go of Rice who is still capable of All-Pro seasons.

If anyone should be blamed for Emmitt's departure, it's the salary cap and Emmitt's pride. Guys like Emmitt and Rice can't play second fiddle. I hope Emmitt gets a chance to play for the Buccaneers. I'd like to see him win another Superbowl ring because he sure isn't going to win it with the Cowboys again before he retires. :(

rkmsuf
02-18-2003, 01:58 PM
I thought all Quincy had was speed. Maybe Huchinson can play better on speed.


Hambrick in my opinion is not the answer. Seems like he runs very upright and is going to get his block taken off with more carries. Wiley has a shot to play along with what I'm sure will be newcomers...

HornedFrog Purple
02-18-2003, 02:02 PM
Hambrick = instant Parcells doghouse, I would not be surprised in the least if he is sent packing. I think they will draft a back in the 2nd or 3rd round or go with a surprise like Dantzler/Wiley.

AgPete
02-18-2003, 02:05 PM
Why has Chris Brown dropped so much? I remember his projected as a first round pick not long ago. I'd like to see the Cowboys gamble on Willis McGahee if he drops to the third or fourth round. I think Hambrick may have personality issues with Parcells too. :D I just hope Antonio Bryant gets along with him. The Cowboys can find a Hambrick anywhere but Bryant is a rare talent.

Airhog
02-18-2003, 02:22 PM
Emmit truly was a class-act. One of the only players I liked from the cowgirls. I think he has had a great career, however I think his time has come, and he should retire.

rkmsuf
02-18-2003, 02:26 PM
If he enjoys playing what reason is there to retire. He can still perform well.

Tarkus
02-18-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Right now he needs speed speed speed at QB. :)
Right now he needs a QB. :D

Tarkus

sachmo71
02-18-2003, 03:45 PM
I can't believe I agreed with Kodos on a point he made about the Cowboys.

Anrhydeddu
02-18-2003, 03:54 PM
Very few of the great ones get to go out on their own terms

On their own terms???? You mean like hanging around far past being valuable and eating up too much of the salary cap? While there were some noticable exceptions (Elway, Marino), many do hang on too long. I think the NFL does a good job in bringing in new blood because of the cap but there still are too many fans wanting to hang on to the past (and veterans wanting to rest on the past). Smith may not fit this but I think it is shortsighted to want to prop up an aging veteran because of what he did in the past and not what he can do for you now.

Marmel
02-18-2003, 03:55 PM
Holy crap. I agree with Anrhydeddu.

RawIsDan
02-18-2003, 04:15 PM
Parcells worked with big-mouth Keyshawn so anything is possible.

Kodos' anti-Cowboy rhetoric reminds me of Iraq's PR man Tariq Aziz when he talks about the US. LOL.

Kodos
02-20-2003, 12:32 AM
I can't believe I agreed with Kodos on a point he made about the Cowboys.

Scary, isn't it? ;)


Originally posted by RawIsDan
Kodos' anti-Cowboy rhetoric reminds me of Iraq's PR man Tariq Aziz when he talks about the US. LOL.

Heaven knows, the Cowboys don't provide much fodder for criticism, what with their excellent track-record criminal-wise, and their excellent record on the field these past few seasons. Not to mention JJ's stellar draft record. :)



As for the aging stars thing, I think the NFL should alter the rules so that owners don't have to choose between keeping an older star who can still play but who is ruining their cap, or releasing that player to save money. Surely they can come up with something that allows older players to stay with their team. Smith could obviously still be an effective player if he wasn't surrounded by such great talents as Q.C. and Chad H.

Alf
02-20-2003, 08:26 AM
Kodos : are you refering to the NBA Larry Bird exemption rule ?

cincyreds
02-20-2003, 08:53 AM
I am a huge Cowboys fan and have been for a long time. Just like the Aikman situation(concussions) I thought it was time for him to move on, same goes for Emmitt.

I would love to see him stick around, but for the sake of the franchise it is best for the Cowboys to start rebuilding so that they can get back to glory days that used to be.

Emmitt should retire. He already has the rushing record and 3 rings. What more could he want, unless he wants to pad the record a bit more.

The cowboys need a QB and RB and that is what I am for the Cowboys taking in the draft.

Kodos
02-20-2003, 10:50 AM
But why are you so quick to put Emmitt out to pasture? Hell, most of the Dolphins teams that Marino played on would have killed to have a runner as good as Smith is today. The Cowboys' line sucked this year, and there was no passing attack to fear, so yeah, his numbers were going to be subpar. But with a decent line, he easily breaks the 1000-yard mark to this day.

Tarkus
02-20-2003, 11:05 AM
cincyreds, how can a Red fan also be a huge Cowboy fan? :confused:

Tarkus