Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over!

[Alan T]

I have another question for a few other people:

To Silvermoon's team.. I've heard a few times that the run on cannonball was to create a new candidate. Why him when voting one of the others who had votes at the time would have created a much closer race and possibly caused either a different outcome at the end, or at least a race close enough that everyone's move at the end would be under a spotlight?

To Captain America: Coming in, all day yesterday I had you and Ironman pretty equal as my early targets coming in as people who I thought would have been great horsemen. Somehow along the way your name totally got dropped out of the discussion and you ended up under the radar. Why did you place your vote on Mystique instead of someone else who had a better shot at saving your teammate.

At the time of your vote IronMan had 8 votes but had also initiated his defensive power. Mystique only had 2 attacks with yours making #3. Cannonball however had 4 votes + 2 for a team bonus at the time.

While your vote on Cannonball wouldn't have tied it up, I am pretty sure if your desire was to save your teammate you could have done a special attack of some sort or double or even triple attacked possibly to bring it real close or even tie it up. That would have definitly changed the end of voting yesterday as well.

So my question is: Why did you put your vote where you did when it seemed to have been much better to help your teammate placing it other locations?

[Alan T]

And while I am doing an excellent job of talking to myself...

There are 6 teams. At least one of which doesn't have a bad guy on it. If you were bad, would one of your goals be to try to spread across as many teams as possible? Ie: should we expect 4-5 of the teams to have Apocolypse or one of his horsemen?

If so, should some of the people we look at be those who did whatever maneuvering to shun certain teams while trying to join others? I might need someone with more comic book knowledge to help me here since I'm sure some formed for theme reasons. However I remember a few others seemed to specifically not want on one team and wanted on another for reasons I didn't understand at the time.

[gi]

I have another question for a few other people:

To Captain America: Why did you put your vote where you did when it seemed to have been much better to help your teammate placing it other locations?

Through a varity of reasons, I feel Captain America is on the side of good.

[Bonegavel]

(Cannonball)

It's not what Hulk has done, its who he is. If he's good, he's most likely our most powerful ally, if not he's our biggest threat. For the third time now I say I am not calling for an attack on him, because that would be foolish at this point. Only that he be looked at by our seer-types, nothing more.

I am leaning towards the same people you are considering though Warpath, as I just think it was too easy for an evil to hide amongst my fellow Iron Man attackers.

I agree and just want to re-emphasize that the Hulk and his persona would be the perfect place to hide the face of evil. He talks in fragments and doesn't add much. He won't be tripping himself up by speaking.

I think that right there is reason enough to take him off the board. It is still early and that would leave 10 of the 12 left if he turns out to be an oopsie.

[Alan T]

I agree and just want to re-emphasize that the Hulk and his persona would be the perfect place to hide the face of evil. He talks in fragments and doesn't add much. He won't be tripping himself up by speaking.

I think that right there is reason enough to take him off the board. It is still early and that would leave 10 of the 12 left if he turns out to be an oopsie.

Im less worried with there being only 10 of 12 left as I am worried about us removing all of a particular type of player. If we get rid of all of the type of player who is strong and with great defense, we likely will end up eliminating a certain type of role associated with such as well. I'm not really ready yet to do that i don't think.

[path12]

(ooc) Really busy this morning. Will catch up as soon as I can. (/ooc)

[Abe Sargent]

Still having serious conn problems, but for the moment, it's cleared up. It's been down for most of the late night and morning with the occasional connection being made for a few minutes. I may not be as active today as a result.

[Alan T]

Its been 4 hours and still not really much discussion. Where are all of the people who said we should have talked about things before making a decision for attack? I only have like 3 hours left till I have to go.

[Swaggs]

So, it looks like Storm (Swaggs), Captain Britain (gi), Venom (Grammaticus), and Ironman (EF27) didn't elect to attack anyone yesterday.

Ironman is dead so there's no need to ask him.

To the other 3, why didn't you attack anyone?

(Storm)

A couple of things here.

One, have you considered that not everyone's powers are conducive to a powerful attack? Perhaps some of our powers are better suited elsewhere.

Two, the more we are injured during the day, the easier of a target we become during the night.

[WVUFAN]

Doom was attacked last night! Luckily I was prepared for this to occur, and a Doombot that was in my stead was destroyed.

Someone will PAY for this Insolence!!! I believe it to be Wolverine, since he had threatened Doom the night before.

[spleen1015]

Doom was attacked last night! Luckily I was prepared for this to occur, and a Doombot that was in my stead was destroyed.

Someone will PAY for this Insolence!!! I believe it to be Wolverine, since he had threatened Doom the night before.

Did you get a look at who it was?

[Swaggs]

Doom was attacked last night! Luckily I was prepared for this to occur, and a Doombot that was in my stead was destroyed.

Someone will PAY for this Insolence!!! I believe it to be Wolverine, since he had threatened Doom the night before.

Interesting and, I think, something to go from.

Do we assume that all night attacks are made by members of Apocolypse's team? I had considered that there must be some of us that are capable of acting during the night, but perhaps that is not true. I know that I cannot make a night attack.

If Wolverine verifies that he was the party that made the attack, then that will give us a Wolverine vs Doom choice to make. If Wolverine does not speak up, then we will have to decide whether or not Doom is telling the truth (which, in itself, will give us the answer).

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Doom was attacked last night! Luckily I was prepared for this to occur, and a Doombot that was in my stead was destroyed.

Someone will PAY for this Insolence!!! I believe it to be Wolverine, since he had threatened Doom the night before.

The golden horse was a Doombot, I take it?

I don't fully trust Wolverine (or anyone else), but it doesn't sound like a good plan to come out openly against you (and have you come out against him) and then attack you at night. It draws too much attention to him, and attention is not something Apocalypse and the Horsemen want right now.

SPIDER-MAN

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Do we assume that all night attacks are made by members of Apocolypse's team? I had considered that there must be some of us that are capable of acting during the night, but perhaps that is not true. I know that I cannot make a night attack.

If Wolverine verifies that he was the party that made the attack, then that will give us a Wolverine vs Doom choice to make. If Wolverine does not speak up, then we will have to decide whether or not Doom is telling the truth (which, in itself, will give us the answer).

While it's possible that some of us heroes have the ability to do night attacks, it would be foolish to do so unless you are 100% convinced that the person you are attacking is a Horseman.

SPIDER-MAN

[Alan T]

Doom was attacked last night! Luckily I was prepared for this to occur, and a Doombot that was in my stead was destroyed.

Someone will PAY for this Insolence!!! I believe it to be Wolverine, since he had threatened Doom the night before.

So I take it the noise we heard last night was from your struggle? What all did you learn about the attack? Did you see it occur, or did you just hear it like the rest of us?

[Alan T]

Also I guess I wonder the following:

If you are planning on attacking someone at night, why would you say so during the day so all attention is on you the next day.

There were a few people who had feuds with you yesterday how do we know that it wasn't a setup to try to frame one of them by someone else? I guess I'm hoping you know more than you are sharing so far.

[Swaggs]

(Storm)

I would certainly like to hear from Wolverine, regarding last night's actions and his threats regarding Doom yesterday.

[Bonegavel]

Doom was attacked last night! Luckily I was prepared for this to occur, and a Doombot that was in my stead was destroyed.

Someone will PAY for this Insolence!!! I believe it to be Wolverine, since he had threatened Doom the night before.

(Wolverine)

My sense of smell would've tipped me off and trust me, your smell is something I would remember.

Believe what you want Doomy, but either way I don't really care what you think. Too bad they didn't succeed and we could've gotten this thing moving along.

**lights up cigar and blows a few smoke rings in Dooms direction**

[WVUFAN]

The nature of the Doombot is that it is my decoy, while I go to my secret lair. So, the person or persons committing the act would not know they were attacking a Doombot. I was in my secret lair when the attack occured.

So, unfortunately, I do not know who attacked me, only that if I had not had the forethought to activate my Doombot based on the threats of Wolverine, I would have died last night.

[SackAttack]

Where is my dear Captain America? I need to know what my mentor has to say about last night!

I'm here. Catchin' up.

It was a long and restless night.

[Bonegavel]

While it's possible that some of us heroes have the ability to do night attacks, it would be foolish to do so unless you are 100% convinced that the person you are attacking is a Horseman.

SPIDER-MAN

(Wolverine)

I'm sure other's have night attacks that aren't Evil but I don't necessarily see it as foolish if you aren't 100% sure. Hell, if you wait too long you might be dead yourself. Sometimes you have to take chances.

[path12]

Do we assume that all night attacks are made by members of Apocolypse's team? I had considered that there must be some of us that are capable of acting during the night, but perhaps that is not true. I know that I cannot make a night attack.

(Silver Surfer)

I cannot make an attack at night either. But I do believe from the rules that it is possible for others to have such abilities.

If Doom is to be believed, I think it is up in the air as to whether the attack was from Apocalypse or his horsemen in order to frame Wolverine or from Wolverine himself.

[Swaggs]

Looks like there is not a lot of developing news just yet.

I will be back later on this evening.

[Bonegavel]

(Storm)

I would certainly like to hear from Wolverine, regarding last night's actions and his threats regarding Doom yesterday.

(Wolverine)

I swear on the life of the wife I think I had that I did not attack Doom last night. If that ain't good enough for you Ororo (storm) then I don't know what to say.

As much as I hate to admit it, I'm having second thoughts about Doom.

He seems to be the only one attacked last night (evil gets a free kill at night separate from any power issues) and even if another character that wasn't evil had an attack, then another should have been killed or at least attempted.

I think Doom is not Evil.

[SackAttack]

To Captain America: Coming in, all day yesterday I had you and Ironman pretty equal as my early targets coming in as people who I thought would have been great horsemen. Somehow along the way your name totally got dropped out of the discussion and you ended up under the radar. Why did you place your vote on Mystique instead of someone else who had a better shot at saving your teammate.

At the time of your vote IronMan had 8 votes but had also initiated his defensive power. Mystique only had 2 attacks with yours making #3. Cannonball however had 4 votes + 2 for a team bonus at the time.

While your vote on Cannonball wouldn't have tied it up, I am pretty sure if your desire was to save your teammate you could have done a special attack of some sort or double or even triple attacked possibly to bring it real close or even tie it up. That would have definitly changed the end of voting yesterday as well.

So my question is: Why did you put your vote where you did when it seemed to have been much better to help your teammate placing it other locations?

Why did you vote for Tony, Warpath? Because it's better to achieve results blindly than to achieve one's aims through consideration? Because you're a follower?

Mystique has been putting off one mother of a bad vibe for me since early yesterday. Cannonball, I don't have a feel for.

I didn't feel like there was anything I could have done to save Tony, given the nature of my powers and the sheer amount of opposition he was facing. I chose instead to target somebody who didn't feel right to me, and enough people apparently agreed with me that we almost managed to save him anyway.

You can argue with my choice of targets, but Warpath, as one of the Nine, I don't think you have any room to talk right now.

[WVUFAN]

(Wolverine)

I swear on the life of the wife I think I had that I did not attack Doom last night. If that ain't good enough for you Ororo (storm) then I don't know what to say.

As much as I hate to admit it, I'm having second thoughts about Doom.

He seems to be the only one attacked last night (evil gets a free kill at night separate from any power issues) and even if another character that wasn't evil had an attack, then another should have been killed or at least attempted.

I think Doom is not Evil.

{Doom}

Assuming for just a moment that you did not attack Doom, then perhaps Doom should thank you -- had you not made those threats, Doom would not have expended energy and activated a Doombot. Doom would have died.

Doom still believes you are the cuprit, as no others would DARE threaten Doom as you did yesterday.

[spleen1015]

Mystique has been putting off one mother of a bad vibe for me since early yesterday.



I am trying to play within character because there are implied bonuses for doing so. If that wasn't the case, you would be seeing the kind of attitude that I am projecting from me.

I'm on the good side. Coming after me is a big mistake.

Fools.

[DaddyTorgo]

alan i'm around and ready to explain the cannonball choice

[spleen1015]

{Doom}

Assuming for just a moment that you did not attack Doom, then perhaps Doom should thank you -- had you not made those threats, Doom would not have expended energy and activated a Doombot. Doom would have died.

Doom still believes you are the cuprit, as no others would DARE threaten Doom as you did yesterday.

This is a pretty arrogant comment. We're fighting one who believes in survival of the fittest and he thinks he is the fittest of them all. Of course there is someone out there willing to threaten you. Arrogant fool.

If you are to be believed, then you and I are fighting for the same side.

[DaddyTorgo]

Team SilverMoon's vote on Cannonball was more of a vote on Thomkal if that makes sense. It was a vote not based on his character, but based on the player. Blade put forth that Bonegavel or Thomkal were the kind of players he would choose for his team if he were evil, and having nothing better to go off of, we chose to all attack Thomkal as we felt that getting involved in the Ironman vs. Mutants First fracas was a bad idea and wouldn't help us figure anything out.

[Tyrith]

(Wolverine)

I swear on the life of the wife I think I had that I did not attack Doom last night.

I hope if you have a girlfriend or wife in real life your memory is somewhat better than this. ;)

[WVUFAN]

This is a pretty arrogant comment. We're fighting one who believes in survival of the fittest and he thinks he is the fittest of them all. Of course there is someone out there willing to threaten you. Arrogant fool.

If you are to be believed, then you and I are fighting for the same side.

Speak to Doom without permission again ... lackeys are asked to speak, and know not to speak to their betters.

Having said that, Doom does not believe you to be a Horsemen. Doom believes many have attacked you without due cause, and that gives me pause.

You ARE an insolent worm, but I do not believe you to be a Horsemen.

[Thomkal]

And while I am doing an excellent job of talking to myself...

There are 6 teams. At least one of which doesn't have a bad guy on it. If you were bad, would one of your goals be to try to spread across as many teams as possible? Ie: should we expect 4-5 of the teams to have Apocolypse or one of his horsemen?

If so, should some of the people we look at be those who did whatever maneuvering to shun certain teams while trying to join others? I might need someone with more comic book knowledge to help me here since I'm sure some formed for theme reasons. However I remember a few others seemed to specifically not want on one team and wanted on another for reasons I didn't understand at the time.

I think they probably spread out amongst the groups because if they were all or most in the same group, it'd be pretty easy to spot the -2 damage if they all chose the same person to attack. Certainly those who were hesitant to join teams or a specific team should be looked at.

[DaddyTorgo]

Speak to Doom without permission again ... lackeys are asked to speak, and know not to speak to their betters.

Having said that, Doom does not believe you to be a Horsemen. Doom believes many have attacked you without due cause, and that gives me pause.

You ARE an insolent worm, but I do not believe you to be a Horsemen.

(Professor X)

Doom, my friend, any thoughts on where our attention ought to be directed today. Aside from this bickering with Logan that is. Someone who attacked in the middle of the pile on Tony perhaps? Or as was suggested earlier, someone who did not vote, or someone who voted counter to their team? I am interested to hear your learned opinion.

[Bonegavel]

{Doom}

Assuming for just a moment that you did not attack Doom, then perhaps Doom should thank you -- had you not made those threats, Doom would not have expended energy and activated a Doombot. Doom would have died.

Doom still believes you are the cuprit, as no others would DARE threaten Doom as you did yesterday.

(Wolverine)

Good choice of them to select you to kill first since it would stink to high heaven of me.

What are the chances that you setup your own doombot and then destroyed him yourself?

You are safe but it looks like I did it.

Was doombot sliced apart by these?

**holds up his balled fists in front of him like he is ready to fight. SNIKT! all 6 metal claws pop out**

Should be able to verify that Doomy. How was doombot destroyed?

[Barkeep49]

I think Doom is likely on the side of good.

He claims it was Wolverine. I think there's likely to be a better target. I would love for Mutants First to act in concert again and with Warpath having to leave it looks like that means we'll once again have to cast the first stone. There have been hours of discussion and it has not occurred. So when we once again seize the bull by the horns we will once again be criticized for acting rashly. What fools people can be.

[Bonegavel]

I think they probably spread out amongst the groups because if they were all or most in the same group, it'd be pretty easy to spot the -2 damage if they all chose the same person to attack. Certainly those who were hesitant to join teams or a specific team should be looked at.

Good point, Bub.

[Talgian]

I think they probably spread out amongst the groups because if they were all or most in the same group, it'd be pretty easy to spot the -2 damage if they all chose the same person to attack. Certainly those who were hesitant to join teams or a specific team should be looked at.
I agree that they'd be spread out. That gives them the ability to negatively affect as many groups as possible when it interests them, as well as steer more groups towards the Twelve.

Also, since the Doombot looks like Doom (and therefore not a golden horse), have any of my fellow scholars determined the relevance of that horse? All my inquiries have failed to provide any leads into the matter, but it seems to be something of import,

[DaddyTorgo]

I think Doom is likely on the side of good.

He claims it was Wolverine. I think there's likely to be a better target. I would love for Mutants First to act in concert again and with Warpath having to leave it looks like that means we'll once again have to cast the first stone. There have been hours of discussion and it has not occurred. So when we once again seize the bull by the horns we will once again be criticized for acting rashly. What fools people can be.

(Professor X)

Eric, I am here now to discuss with you, and Warpath if he returns, our best course of action.

[Barkeep49]

Wolverine, give it a rest. Just because a person's a twit doesn't make him a minion of Apocalypse. I think it's safe to say that doom should be cleared for the time being.

[Barkeep49]

I think it's quite possible that there are a couple of bad guys in one group but that the rest are spread out. It seems to obvious to group them ALL together.

[Barkeep49]

(Professor X)

Eric, I am here now to discuss with you, and Warpath if he returns, our best course of action.
Thoughts on the day? You have acute mind and so I am hopeful you can shed light on our dilemma.

[Bonegavel]

Wolverine, give it a rest. Just because a person's a twit doesn't make him a minion of Apocalypse. I think it's safe to say that doom should be cleared for the time being.

(Wolverine)

Whatever Maggy. I do agree on the twit part.

Just keep in mind it is possible for Doom to have destroyed his own Doombot to completely throw us off his trail.

[Thomkal]

(Cannonball)

"Ummm, Dr. Doom, Sir? Your Doom-bots look like you so they can serve as a decoy right? Where then is the Doom-bot debris? Ah only see some debris from a horse somethin' or other."

[SackAttack]

Captain Britain, I see that you're around. What are your thoughts on how the Atlantic Alliance should proceed today, sir?

[LoneStarGirl]

Spiderman! I see you lurking. What direction do you thnk we should go today?

[DaddyTorgo]

Thoughts on the day? You have acute mind and so I am hopeful you can shed light on our dilemma.

(Professor X)

I believe Doom and Wolverine to both be on the side of good. I am not necessarily inclined to continue down the path of Cannonball being evil Eric. I also understand the suspiscions of those who believe that Hulk would make a powerful minion for Apocalypse, but I am not willing to condemm him on such hearsay. I would rather look towards those who joined the attack on Tony in the middle (preferably those who acted before the rest of their team or acted without their team). Barring that, not to bring LaResistance out in arms against me, but I would say that the actions of Captain Marvel have certainly at least raised my eyebrow. She seems to be quite the rabble-rouser and I would like her to explain her reasonings more, or cease and desist.

[gi]

Captain Britain, I see that you're around. What are your thoughts on how the Atlantic Alliance should proceed today, sir?

Captain Marvel throws me bad vibes. It seems we would be taking another shot in the dark if we selected another person to kill. That didn't work so well yesterday, even though Captain Marvel revels in being over proactive in actions. It would be nice to have more chap's weigh in on this. Maybe someone will let something slip. I firmly believe in Captain America's cause for good.

[Bonegavel]

Spiderman! I see you lurking. What direction do you thnk we should go today?

(Wolverine)

I know this wasn't directed at me sweetheart, but I vote for Magneto or Hulk.

[DaddyTorgo]

unless i am missing something and that's the character and LSG is playing in character real well

[Barkeep49]

You're not the first to say this. I think I missed something important. What has Captain Marvel done that raises such hackles?

[WVUFAN]

Dolt, I was not there for the battle, so Doom does not know where the pieces of the Doombot are. What Doom does know is that there was a battle, and my Doombot is no longer there. Perhaps whomever destroyed it had enough power to completely vaporize the pieces.

If you note, when Iron Man was defeated, he simply dissapeared as well. We have no body for him, either, so Apocalypse may be cleaning up the pieces.

[DaddyTorgo]

Captain Marvel throws me bad vibes. It seems we would be taking another shot in the dark if we selected another person to kill. That didn't work so well yesterday, even though Captain Marvel revels in being over proactive in actions. It would be nice to have more chap's weigh in on this. Maybe someone will let something slip. I firmly believe in Captain America's cause for good.

(Professor X)

Your belief in Captain America does my heart good Captain Britain. You are alright in my book. As I just said to my dear friend Eric, Captain Marvel seems overly accusatory to me as well. Enough at least to raise my eyebrows and make me take a second look in her direction.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Nothing concrete Eric, nothing concrete. She simply seems...overly accusatory, as if she is trying to muddy the waters and...directive of her group if you will.

[LoneStarGirl]

(Professor X)

I believe Doom and Wolverine to both be on the side of good. I am not necessarily inclined to continue down the path of Cannonball being evil Eric. I also understand the suspiscions of those who believe that Hulk would make a powerful minion for Apocalypse, but I am not willing to condemm him on such hearsay. I would rather look towards those who joined the attack on Tony in the middle (preferably those who acted before the rest of their team or acted without their team). Barring that, not to bring LaResistance out in arms against me, but I would say that the actions of Captain Marvel have certainly at least raised my eyebrow. She seems to be quite the rabble-rouser and I would like her to explain her reasonings more, or cease and desist.



Daddy, I dont know if you are actually talking about my character or me, but know shit about comics or captain marvel, and nobody i know does either. So I am portraying her to be a bossy bitch that wants to be seen as a leader but wants other people to actually do the leading. I could calm it down a notch

[spleen1015]

You're not the first to say this. I think I missed something important. What has Captain Marvel done that raises such hackles?

She was one of the middle attacks on Ironman, which we all know is a good hiding place for an agent of evil.

I would like it very much if we focused on her today. Just a feeling and I could be wrong.

[LoneStarGirl]

(Wolverine)

I know this wasn't directed at me sweetheart, but I vote for Magneto or Hulk.

Wolvie for the time being I belive you to be on my side, fighting against the horsemen and not for them, and I value your opions. I am hesitant to vote against the Hulk but Magneto I think we can agree on.

[hoopsguy]

On the topic of role-playing, there were two people I recognized for this yesterday: Dr. Doom and the Hulk.

I thought there were several strong performances in this regard on Day 1, but limited my picks to only two selections this time around. Thanks to everyone who is trying to add this aspect to the game and I encourage you to keep up the good work!

[Talgian]

Daddy, I dont know if you are actually talking about my character or me, but know shit about comics or captain marvel, and nobody i know does either. So I am portraying her to be a bossy bitch that wants to be seen as a leader but wants other people to actually do the leading. I could calm it down a notch
http://marvel.com/universe/Pulsar

She's relatively humble and doesn't like to be too pretentious. She at first didn't want to take the name Captain Marvel out of respect for the original, then when the original Marvel's son took her new name (Photon) she sat down with him and changed to Pulsar.

[WVUFAN]

(Professor X)

Nothing concrete Eric, nothing concrete. She simply seems...overly accusatory, as if she is trying to muddy the waters and...directive of her group if you will.

(Doom)
Muddy the waters? Doom agree that Captain Marvel should be considered to be one of the Horsemen, but you have done more than your share of blind accusations.
To all here ... while I have no concrete evidence either, ask yourself this: if you were Apocalypse, would you not go after someone who might have the ability to read your mind and discern your true identity?

Who better to turn into a Horseman than a psychic ... nay, the MOST POWERFUL psychic?

[SackAttack]

It feels to me like Captain Marvel's antics are more because she wants to appear important and doesn't really know what she's doing than anything else.

But maybe I need to go back and re-observe her interactions with the rest of us from yesterday.

[DaddyTorgo]

Daddy, I dont know if you are actually talking about my character or me, but know shit about comics or captain marvel, and nobody i know does either. So I am portraying her to be a bossy bitch that wants to be seen as a leader but wants other people to actually do the leading. I could calm it down a notch

nah, it's fine LSG. just wanted to see what was going on there :)

[LoneStarGirl]

http://marvel.com/universe/Pulsar

She's relatively humble and doesn't like to be too pretentious. She at first didn't want to take the name Captain Marvel out of respect for the original, then when the original Marvel's son took her new name (Photon) she sat down with him and changed to Pulsar.

Well damnit to hell Talgian.... why didn't i know this before the game. Okay guys, I promise I will change. No more agressive dominanting bitch.

[WVUFAN]

http://marvel.com/universe/Pulsar

She's relatively humble and doesn't like to be too pretentious. She at first didn't want to take the name Captain Marvel out of respect for the original, then when the original Marvel's son took her new name (Photon) she sat down with him and changed to Pulsar.

{ooc}
During an Avengers run when she was a leader, two writers basically fought over her role on the team and she ultimately got portrayed as much more arrogant as she may be now.

I think LoneStarGirl is portaying the character based on that idea, since she doesn't know alot about comics.

[Talgian]

(Doom)
Muddy the waters? Doom agree that Captain Marvel should be considered to be one of the Horsemen, but you have done more than your share of blind accusations.
To all here ... while I have no concrete evidence either, ask yourself this: if you were Apocalypse, would you not go after someone who might have the ability to read your mind and discern your true identity?

Who better to turn into a Horseman than a psychic ... nay, the MOST POWERFUL psychic?
Dr. Doom, while your logic behind this is excellent, I am extremely confident that Charles is not a Horseman. After much research in the field of mutanagenic genes, and judging from samples of his, it is highly unlikely that Apocolypse has corrupted him

[Talgian]

Well damnit to hell Talgian.... why didn't i know this before the game. Okay guys, I promise I will change. No more agressive dominanting bitch.
Ehh, no biggie. I didn't really know until I did some additional research after my initial write-ups :).

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I don't think Captain Marvel is a Horseman. She's been drawing too much attention to herself to be evil. Same goes for Mystique.

I agree that Hulk's, shall we say personality?, would be a great cover for a Horseman. I don't believe we should attack him at this time, but we should keep an eye on him.

I can see going after Magneto, but again, leading the attack yesterday is too attention grabbing for evil right now. I would advise not attacking him.

Unfortunately, this leaves me with the person that I am looking at today: Hawkeye. I don't know if he's evil or not, but he did lead the attack from our group against Iron Man when it wasn't yet set whom we would attack. He called for Captain Marvel to make a decision, but went ahead and attacked anyway.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

(Doom)
Muddy the waters? Doom agree that Captain Marvel should be considered to be one of the Horsemen, but you have done more than your share of blind accusations.
To all here ... while I have no concrete evidence either, ask yourself this: if you were Apocalypse, would you not go after someone who might have the ability to read your mind and discern your true identity?

Who better to turn into a Horseman than a psychic ... nay, the MOST POWERFUL psychic?

(Professor X)

My accusations have been supported by statements, or in the case of them not being, I have said "I have nothing to go on here." While that may be a blind accusation Doom, it is one that is up-front about its blindness.

I cannot explain why Apocalypse did not choose me to be one of the Horsemen. Perhaps because it made too much sense and he assumed that I would be an early target anyways by virtue of my power?

I do thank you for your compliments with regards to my ability though Doom. I trust that the side of good has at least one traditional seer who could look at me and verify that I am not a Horseman or Apocalypse, as my psychic powers have apparently been constrained onboard this ship and can only pick up other information.

[Alan T]

(Warpath)

Everyone is focused on Marvel today, but I am curious about someone else on that team moreso. Hawkeye felt strong enough about Ironman's guilt to put extra effort into the attack yesterday. It seems a bit comforting that he came out to admit it afterwards, however I don't really remember him pushing hard for Ironman beforehand.

[LoneStarGirl]

Spiderman, are you proposing we go after one of LaResistance?

[Alan T]

I don't think Captain Marvel is a Horseman. She's been drawing too much attention to herself to be evil. Same goes for Mystique.

I agree that Hulk's, shall we say personality?, would be a great cover for a Horseman. I don't believe we should attack him at this time, but we should keep an eye on him.

I can see going after Magneto, but again, leading the attack yesterday is too attention grabbing for evil right now. I would advise not attacking him.

Unfortunately, this leaves me with the person that I am looking at today: Hawkeye. I don't know if he's evil or not, but he did lead the attack from our group against Iron Man when it wasn't yet set whom we would attack. He called for Captain Marvel to make a decision, but went ahead and attacked anyway.

SPIDER-MAN

(Warpath)

Maybe that spider bite put some good sense into you after all. Looks like you had the same line of thinking that I did about Hawkeye

[Barkeep49]

Warpath I believe no extra effort was put forward by Hawkeye. Instead his weapons were particularly effective against Ironman. Knowing that he'd get a lot of bang for his buck might explain why he wanted to attack Ironman.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

To all here ... while I have no concrete evidence either, ask yourself this: if you were Apocalypse, would you not go after someone who might have the ability to read your mind and discern your true identity?

Who better to turn into a Horseman than a psychic ... nay, the MOST POWERFUL psychic?

That's exactly what I would have done. I would have picked the characters I felt had the best chance of having seer-like qualities.


SPIDER-MAN

[LoneStarGirl]

I cannot find the statement, but I remember Ironman saying something to the likes of 'if i die and turn out good, look at hawkeye'


I hate to say that about one of my 'friends' but I for damned sure dont want a Horseman on my team!

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Thank you Talgian. I hope your teammate will listen to you, and your belief in me gives me newfound belief in you in turn. I believe (perhaps prematurely) that we may be onto something here.

In hindsight I do see that it would not be wise for Captain Marvel or Magneto to be leading attacks so early as evil, so perhaps they are not our best suspects. This talk of Hawkeye does intrigue me...

[Thomkal]

(Cannonball)

While I think its good to be looking at the people at the middle of the Iron Man vote, shouldn't we be looking at the ones at the end too? Spiderman and Mr, Sinister? Since we now know Iron Man was one of the 12, it might have made sense for them to jump on Iron Man at the end if they made their votes after I and Mystique were getting attacked.

[DaddyTorgo]

of course should read "Thank you Sinister

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Spiderman, are you proposing we go after one of LaResistance?

I honestly don't know. I think there's a great chance that someone in our team is a Horseman and I'm not going to let loyalty to my teammates blind me to evil. I suggest we wait and see how he responds to being in the spotlight before we decide what course of action to take today.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Perhaps I am being taken in, but I do not believe Sinister to be evil, based on the fact that he has said that I am good and I know that I am good, and he is willing to go against the thought of his teammate to say this.

[Barkeep49]

The thing is we had no idea how much damage it would take to kill Ironman. In fact we still don't. Normally I would say that evil wouldn't want to jump on the end of a lynch vote like that since it was clear Ironman was running away with it and they would only be in the "wrong" category. However, in this game we don't know what it takes to kill so I think a better argument could be made that late voters were trying to make sure that Ironman was defeated.

[Alan T]

[Iron Man]

If/When I die, Hawkeye should be the first person you should look at. He's been gunning against me from the first instant and I am good.


Found what Marvel was talking about. I guess I don't remember hawkeye gunning for Ironman yesterday as I brought him up first i had thought with Magneto then jumping in discussion. I honestly didn't remember hawkeye pushing for his death before either of us talking about it.

I don't presume to think Ironman knew anything about Hawkeye other than his own personal hunch, but so far right now Hawkeye is the one that has been my strongest feel to vote for.

[Barkeep49]

Eric: If I were working for Apocalypse it would be very easy for me to say who every one of the good guys are. Believing you are good is not a sign that the person with that belief is good.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

(Cannonball)

While I think its good to be looking at the people at the middle of the Iron Man vote, shouldn't we be looking at the ones at the end too? Spiderman and Mr, Sinister? Since we now know Iron Man was one of the 12, it might have made sense for them to jump on Iron Man at the end if they made their votes after I and Mystique were getting attacked.

Please do look at me. I was completely up front and honest in my hesitation to attack Iron Man yesterday. Would a Horseman be so hesitant to attack one of the twelve?

SPIDER-MAN

[spleen1015]

It kind of makes sense if he knew his acid arrow would get a bonus against an armored target, then he knew he would score a lot with that shot.

I'm comfortable with him or with Captain Marvel. I like Captain Marvel more for the revenge factor, but I'll be a team player for Mutants First if this is the way we elect to go.

I would like to be the first one to attack! There's nothing like getting the party started! Let's decide what we're going to do and do!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Barkeep49]

Please do look at me. I was completely up front and honest in my hesitation to attack Iron Man yesterday. Would a Horseman be so hesitant to attack one of the twelve?

SPIDER-MAN
In a word: yes.

In many words: Unless you know for sure that one of the 12 is going to die, by voting for a person all you're doing is raising suspicion on you if they're found to be good.

[Abe Sargent]

I cannot find the statement, but I remember Ironman saying something to the likes of 'if i die and turn out good, look at hawkeye'


I hate to say that about one of my 'friends' but I for damned sure dont want a Horseman on my team!

Probably only have a few minutes of connectivity. WIsh I had more to address a couple of concerns, raised, but I'll grab this one for now. With a Day One statement and no Night Zero info to get, that's a pretty meaningless statement by a person. It's merely a spite statement.

I attacked yesterday because we needed to kill someone. This game has better odds than most at getting either a bad guy (20%) or a person not a member of the twelve (8 outta 20 - 40% after failing the 20%). That's a pretty good shot, comapred to most Day Ones. Most of our team was on, and LSG said she was leaving soon, so we needed to pick a target. I didn't have any reason for going after EF27 more than any other, but I was already in the books as wanting to go after someone, so I went with the person some of my group were asking about.

-Anxiety

[Barkeep49]

I'm confused. Hawkeye was of concern to Warpath because of the effort he put into killing Ironman. I think little effort was involved. Before we attack Hawkeye Mystique I'd like to hear what Warpath has to say about this subject.

[LoneStarGirl]

I'm comfortable with him or with Captain Marvel. I like Captain Marvel more for the revenge factor, but I'll be a team player for Mutants First if this is the way we elect to go.


Revenge for what?

[Talgian]

Also, if it's rather obvious that a member of the Tweleve is going to be killed, does it not make sense, if you are a Horseman, to strike at another target, thus deflecting blame from yourself when the innocent is killed?

[spleen1015]

Revenge for what?

You're a woman. You know what I'm talking about, sweetheart.

[Alan T]

I'm confused. Hawkeye was of concern to Warpath because of the effort he put into killing Ironman. I think little effort was involved. Before we attack Hawkeye Mystique I'd like to hear what Warpath has to say about this subject.


Well my initial concern was that it felt to me he came from no where to do a heavy push on someone who he was not involved in the discussion about. I honestly don't remember him talking about Ironman when we were all day yesterday. It felt to me he came out of the blue to encourage his team to not only attack him, but he used a special attack to ensure to do more damage.

Ironman's voice post-mortem comments about Hawkeye being after him from the start is something I did not remember, so I need to go back and relook at that. As for me it felt he came out of the blue in this attack

[Barkeep49]

Also, if it's rather obvious that a member of the Tweleve is going to be killed, does it not make sense, if you are a Horseman, to strike at another target, thus deflecting blame from yourself when the innocent is killed?
Yes but who knew that I'd be doing an extra two, and Hawkeye an extra 4 damage?

[Barkeep49]

If most of Mutants First are in favor of a hawkeye attack today I will join them. However, I think we should wait until closer to Warpath's departure before doing so, just so we can allow our "friends" to contribute to the discussion more.

[Alan T]

I'm confused. Hawkeye was of concern to Warpath because of the effort he put into killing Ironman. I think little effort was involved. Before we attack Hawkeye Mystique I'd like to hear what Warpath has to say about this subject.

I fear i must also respectfully disagree with you Magneto on the thought that very little effort was put into the attack on Ironman.

Compare the following:

Post #459 (1:46PM) Warpath attacks IronMan (knife)
Post #559 (2:47PM) Hawkeye attacks Iron Man (Acid Arrow - special attack)

I still need to look back at other information about him however. I welcome talk about other targets, but right now I sit uneasiest about Hawkeye

[Alan T]

If most of Mutants First are in favor of a hawkeye attack today I will join them. However, I think we should wait until closer to Warpath's departure before doing so, just so we can allow our "friends" to contribute to the discussion more.


(Warpath)

I still have roughly 1 1/2 hours or possibly a little longer until I must go with the rest of my tribe to some form of recreation. I fully encourage other discussion in that time however. Its been 8 hours however and I feel like i have been talking into a wind tunnel.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Warpath)

I still have roughly 1 1/2 hours or possibly a little longer until I must go with the rest of my tribe to some form of recreation. I fully encourage other discussion in that time however. Its been 8 hours however and I feel like i have been talking into a wind tunnel.


(Professor X)

Well I am here to discuss now Warpath, now that I have returned from overseeing the mentoring of young minds at my school.

[Alan T]

(Professor X)

Well I am here to discuss now Warpath, now that I have returned from overseeing the mentoring of young minds at my school.

(warpath)

Professor,

I would be very interested in hearing who you feel good about currently and who you don't think are as likely to be following our interests.

[Barkeep49]

What I'm saying Warpath is that any attack by Hawkeye on Ironman would have produced the same results.

[Talgian]

Dr. Doom and Juggernaut, any ideas on what course of action we should undertake? I fear neither Charles nor Logan is a particularly productive avenue to persue. The accusations against Hawkeye seem to merit a bit of consideration, although they are far from conclusive.

[Alan T]

What I'm saying Warpath is that any attack by Hawkeye on Ironman would have produced the same results.

So you feel any attack Hawkeye makes on Ironman forces him to use a special attack?

Post #448 (1:33PM) Magneto attacks IronMan (magnetic blast) and Impedes IronMan (special attack)
Post #450 (1:35PM) Mystique attacks IronMan (gun)
Post #459 (1:46PM) Warpath attacks IronMan (knife)
Post #559 (2:47PM) Hawkeye attacks Iron Man (Acid Arrow - special attack)
Post #560 (2:48PM) Captain Marvel attacks Iron Man (energy blast)

It seems pretty obvious to me that it was a special attack of some form. Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

[Talgian]

It seems pretty obvious to me that it was a special attack of some form. Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?
I have only catalogued four standard forms of attack, and acid is not amongst them.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good About:
Captain America

Feel Decent About:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

[Blade6119]

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good About:
Captain America

Feel Decent About:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.
Interesting, you dont like anyone on your own team...you are likely correct to think that way, but its interesting none-the-less.

[Alan T]

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good about:
Captain America

Feel Decent about:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

I am a little puzzled to why you feel so good about Cpt. America. To be honest, I am still trying to digest his activities from yesterday. I've been feeling really uneasy about him today. Did I miss something that makes him seem or sound more trustworthy than everyone else?

[Thomkal]

[Iron Man]

If/When I die, Hawkeye should be the first person you should look at. He's been gunning against me from the first instant and I am good.

Here's the quote from Iron Man yesterday about Hawkeye that everyone has been talking about.

[Alan T]

Here's the quote from Iron Man yesterday about Hawkeye that everyone has been talking about.


Cannonball, I already brought that up! :)

[Abe Sargent]

I think its interesting that on a day in which one person admittedly is getting a lot of

[DaddyTorgo]

Interesting, you dont like anyone on your own team...you are likely correct to think that way, but its interesting none-the-less.

(Professor X)

I don't DIStrust anyone on my own team either, but aside from the fact that our attack against Cannonball was not sabotaged I have not seen anything from the members of my own team that would make me elevate them above anyone else.

To be very clear Moon Knight, I am decidedly neutal about anyone not listed, and those in the large group are only maybe 5% above neutral.

It does not mean that I believe the members of my own team to be agents of Apocalypse, it just means that I do not have any outside evidence to support their working for good.

[Barkeep49]

Oh I see what you're saying. Ok I'll buy that.

[Abe Sargent]

I think its interesting that on a day in which one person admittedly is getting a lot of

Sorry, hit enter too soon trying to type as quickly as I can, because itsa very intermittent.

that the person with the admittiedly conn problems is also the one under cscrunity. ask yourselfvew if 24 people the one is unde the microspace if that's not someone tyring to manipulate the sitaution.

[Barkeep49]

1109 was directed at Alan.

[Abe Sargent]

wow bad grammer alert.

[Thomkal]

Cannonball, I already brought that up! :)

(Cannonball)

"Sorry about that Warpath, Ah'm the son of a coal miner and not that well educated." :)

[Barkeep49]

Ok speaking of people, where has Raiders been? Yesterday he got a free pass. But we know he arrived home early. Where's he been today. I'm VERY suspicious of UTR people and I think he's used up the common courtesy at this point.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Warpath,

It is what it is. Captain America himself is here to reassure you that I am right to trust him I believe.

[SackAttack]

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good About:
Captain America

Feel Decent About:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

To expand on that with my own:

Complete Trust:
Captain Britain

Feel Good About:
Doctor Doom
Professor X
Wolverine

Hinky Vibe:
Magneto

Distrust:
Mystique
Hawkeye

Everybody else is still up in the air for me. Not necessarily good, not necessarily bad, just that I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about them.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

[Alan T]

To expand on that with my own:

Complete Trust:
Captain Britain

Feel Good about:
Doctor Doom
Professor X
Wolverine

Hinky Vibe:
Magneto

Distrust:
Mystique
Hawkeye

Everybody else is still up in the air for me. Not necessarily good, not necessarily bad, just that I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about them.


Captain,

You've told us why you don't like mystique, but I don't recall you saying much about hawkeye. Why do you have distrust of him?

[Blade6119]

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

I think the fact he tried to protect one of the 12 from attacks is pretty solid evidence, no?

[LoneStarGirl]

PRofessor I too am very confident in Captain America. As you know he was my mentor and brought me into the Avengers. He is a wonderful man who I will trust until something tells me different

[path12]

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

(Silver Surfer)

Professor, it seems to me that by Captain Britain using his powers to defend the good Iron Man that he has bought himself a certain amount of trust. Whether that is fully deserved or not time will tell. But I am not likely to attack him for now.

[DaddyTorgo]

I think the fact he tried to protect one of the 12 from attacks is pretty solid evidence, no?

(Professor X)

That's right...he did didn't he? With all the information flowing around, even my brain can get muddled.

Newly revised

TRUST

Captain Britain
Captain America
Myself (obviously)

[SackAttack]

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

The strongest thing I can point to is that actions speak louder than words, Professor.

We collectively have done quite a lot of talking, but Captain Britain's actions in overt defense of Iron Man helped to move him from "Feel Good About" to where he is now.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

To prove my intentions are good, I submit that I will, again, only attack the person my team has selected. I'm a team player and want this evil gone just as bad as the rest of you.

If my team cannot come to a consensus and they would happen to split their choice, I will abstain for action today.

I know I was hot-headed yesterday, but I get grouchy when I run out of beer.

Having said that, I reserve the right to rescind my offer should my team act in a completely different way during this afternoon's discussion because I am not a total lunatic, cool-aid drinker. But I actually feel pretty good about my team thus far.

[DaddyTorgo]

PRofessor I too am very confident in Captain America. As you know he was my mentor and brought me into the Avengers. He is a wonderful man who I will trust until something tells me different

(Professor X)

Trying to ride into my trust on his coattails Captain Marvel? You are slightly more likely to be good than bad in my mind at this point, but a move like this smacks of desperation and is more likely to lower you in my opinion than raise you Captain Marvel. In due time if you are truly good it will become clear and you will be elevated. But you cannot rush such a thing, you can only hope to contribute to the rooting out and destruction of Apocalypse and his minions to raise your status in my eyes. Or be vouched for (via a declaration of some type of evidence) by someone who is trusted.

[Alan T]

(Wolverine)

To prove my intentions are good, I submit that I will, again, only attack the person my team has selected. I'm a team player and want this evil gone just as bad as the rest of you.

If my team cannot come to a consensus and they would happen to split their choice, I will abstain for action today.

I know I was hot-headed yesterday, but I get grouchy when I run out of beer.

Having said that, I reserve the right to rescind my offer should my team act in a completely different way during this afternoon's discussion because I am not a total lunatic, cool-aid drinker. But I actually feel pretty good about my team thus far.


(Warpath)

I would advise against this approach. Being under the radar or just going with the flow is a good way to draw attention down the road. Its ok to be wrong about a vote, but give your reasoning for the vote. If you and your team disagree then perhaps its a good point to attack somewhere else. Having an attack bonus for your team is nice as long as you are attacking a good candidate. An attack bonus on someone you feel is a bad candidate is just sending a good guy to his doom faster.

[WVUFAN]

(Professor X)

That's right...he did didn't he? With all the information flowing around, even my brain can get muddled.

Newly revised

TRUST

Captain Britain
Captain America
Myself (obviously)

{Doom}

He did so AFTER everyone had attacked him, and with the knowledge that his protection would not protect the damage already done. More than likely, he was already defeated, and his "protection" was only for show.

No, his protection is meaningless.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Warpath)

I would advise against this approach. Being under the radar or just going with the flow is a good way to draw attention down the road. Its ok to be wrong about a vote, but give your reasoning for the vote. If you and your team disagree then perhaps its a good point to attack somewhere else. Having an attack bonus for your team is nice as long as you are attacking a good candidate. An attack bonus on someone you feel is a bad candidate is just sending a good guy to his doom faster.

(Professor X)

Astute observation and one that smacks of you being good Warpath.

*mentally moves Warpath up a notch on his trust list*

[Barkeep49]

I would still like Deadpool out there for consideration for tonight's vote.

[DaddyTorgo]

{Doom}

He did so AFTER everyone had attacked him, and with the knowledge that his protection would not protect the damage already done. More than likely, he was already defeated, and his "protection" was only for show.

No, his protection is meaningless.

(X)

I thought of this too Doom. Added to that the fact that the only way he could have known for sure that Iron Man was one of the 12 is if he was evil.

however we should remember that gi is a new player, and likely was more confused than the rest of us with how to utilize his powers. i also find it more likely that as a new player he jumped to the defense of a player on his team whom he believed to be good. in short, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

[SackAttack]

however we should remember that gi is a new player, and likely was more confused than the rest of us with how to utilize his powers. i also find it more likely that as a new player he jumped to the defense of a player on his team whom he believed to be good. in short, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

{OOC} This is a big part of why his actions were so meaningful to me. {/OOC}

[Thomkal]

(Cannonball)

Looks like the bad guys are waiting for us good guys to make a move.

[Schmidty]

HULK FINALLY AWAKE!!!!!!!!

[Talgian]

I would still like Deadpool out there for consideration for tonight's vote.
I realize that my studies have consumed me moreso than usual, but nonetheless I concur. We've barely seen any of him, and when every person could potentially be a Horseman, that seems mighty, mighty strange.

[Raiders Army]

My mistake. Deadpool is the other person who did not attack.

With gi not understanding the rules, we still have 3 folks who did not attack. I would like to know why.

Catching up

*Deadpool*

What was in it for me? The way I see it, I have a pretty devastating attack. I'm not going to use it for free. Some alliance just needs to make the right offer and I'll be their merc. Until then...

[DaddyTorgo]

(X - i'm not typing "professor" each time anymore)

Eric, I agree with you that the time for Deadpool to contribute or risk being attacked is approaching. I think that we are definately still justified at looking at Hawkeye too, as he was right in the middle of the attack on Iron Man and pushed his group towards it.

his "connection" problems could be a cover too. one or the other could be benefit of the doubt, but both...you sorta lose the benefit of the dobut

[hoopsguy]

Talgian at zero posts reminds me of the "I'm just here for the Bud Light" guy in the commercials - no, he is not the bass player.

[Alan T]

(X - i'm not typing "professor" each time anymore)

Eric, I agree with you that the time for Deadpool to contribute or risk being attacked is approaching. I think that we are definately still justified at looking at Hawkeye too, as he was right in the middle of the attack on Iron Man and pushed his group towards it.

his "connection" problems could be a cover too. one or the other could be benefit of the doubt, but both...you sorta lose the benefit of the dobut


I don't ever like to accuse someone of stating out of game issues as cover for in game wolfishness. I don't like to say someone really didn't have to go out or have whatever keeping them from the board. I'll assume his connection problems are legit and leave it at that.

That said, he's had plenty of time to talk about his connection problems as well as respond to people's concern about him. Instead of responding to my concerns, he lashed back out at people concerned about him. As you can probably assume, that didn't help alleviate my concerns, and right now I am heavily leaning to attacking him (with or without anyone else). I'm waiting till near time to go (another 20 minutes or so) and then I'll have to make my move. I've given plenty of warning, so there can't be any claims of ambushing him or such.

[spleen1015]

Is it time to get the party started? Come on! Let's go!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:D

[spleen1015]

I doubt your mind will get changed in the 20 minutes Warpath.

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't ever like to accuse someone of stating out of game issues as cover for in game wolfishness. I don't like to say someone really didn't have to go out or have whatever keeping them from the board. I'll assume his connection problems are legit and leave it at that.

That said, he's had plenty of time to talk about his connection problems as well as respond to people's concern about him. Instead of responding to my concerns, he lashed back out at people concerned about him. As you can probably assume, that didn't help alleviate my concerns, and right now I am heavily leaning to attacking him (with or without anyone else). I'm waiting till near time to go (another 20 minutes or so) and then I'll have to make my move. I've given plenty of warning, so there can't be any claims of ambushing him or such.

(X)

Warpath,

I would be open to joining your attack on him, and although I can't promise that the rest of Team SilverMoon would join me, there are as many reasons for attacking Hawkeye as there are anyone else.

[Alan T]

I doubt your mind will get changed in the 20 minutes Warpath.

(Warpath)

You never know. Enough people have been speaking good about Cpt America today to make me back off him some. I'm getting a weird uneasy feel about Hawkeye where no one is outright coming out feeling good about him, but no one is pushing really for his lynch either. I'm not sure what to make of it.

[spleen1015]

It's only a game

I'm tired of waiting for people to follow their minds when they know they want to do this!!!!!!!!!!

ATTACK Hawkeye

[Raiders Army]

I realize that my studies have consumed me moreso than usual, but nonetheless I concur. We've barely seen any of him, and when every person could potentially be a Horseman, that seems mighty, mighty strange.

*Deadpool*

It's pretty strange that I posted right underneath this.

I'm no Horseman...I can't even ride a donkey!

The funny thing is that there was a pretty good My Name is Earl and The Office on last night and I watched them since no organization offered me a deal to take someone out. *Shrug*

[Alan T]

Its not really as much following my mind as just trying to get a read on people. I came in today mainly targeting:

Cpt. America, Hawkeye, Marvel, Spiderman, Wolverine and Sinister (As I mentioned earlier today). Peoples responses about Cpt America made me mark him off my list, Sinister's own responses made me choose to not push him any more, I decided against Wolverine due to what happened with Doom. THat left me with Marvel, Spiderman and Hawkeye. I went back and looked at their comments and what they did yesterday, and ended up ranking them:

Hawkeye
Marvel
Spiderman

In the order of my feeling like I wanted to push for them. So I brought up Hawkeye (evidentally at the same time Spiderman did) to see what people felt. I'm curious why Spiderman brought him up and then left the discussion though. Since my attack is final, I just want to make a good choice before I go.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Warpath)

You never know. Enough people have been speaking good about Cpt America today to make me back off him some. I'm getting a weird uneasy feel about Hawkeye where no one is outright coming out feeling good about him, but no one is pushing really for his lynch either. I'm not sure what to make of it.

(X)

Warpath I agree with you there is something strange about that. It would be too early in the game for any of the minions of Apocalypse to abandon each other.

Perhaps we truly are spinning in circles like a top and are aiming at the wrong target?

[Talgian]

Although I have not heard from Doom or Juggernaut, I too am inclined towards attacking Deadpool. It's just too suspicious. It seems like a better choice than Hawkeye, who could go either way.

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Maybe I'll just whack somebody for free. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Moon Knight...any thoughts? Spidey? Eric?

[spleen1015]

Cowards!

[Alan T]

(Warpath)

Not that I have any fondness for Deadpool, but he wasn't even supposed to be back till today. he didn't get back in until a little bit before deadline last night and had to catch up on the entire day and likely couldn't do that in time to make a good educated decision on where to attack.

Since he had no team offers to join, he didn't really have any direction to go so just stayed out of it seemingly to me. Today he comes in about the same time as most of you and says he is trying to catch up. I think you have to give the guy the time to catch up and going for him today doesn't make as much sense to me.

If he continues to be under the radar today, then tommorrow I fully agree and will support any attack on him if there is no better candidate that has emerged from either day or night actions. I just think its unfair to insist on someone who just got back in town to catch up on 20 pages in the matter of an hour or so.

[Schmidty]

(Wolverine)

I know this wasn't directed at me sweetheart, but I vote for Magneto or Hulk.

HULK GETTING CLOSE TO SMASHING HAIRY MIDGET!!!!

BAD MAN KEEPS TRYING TO PROVOKE HULK!!!!!

[SackAttack]

(X)

Warpath I agree with you there is something strange about that. It would be too early in the game for any of the minions of Apocalypse to abandon each other.

Perhaps we truly are spinning in circles like a top and are aiming at the wrong target?

I don't trust Hawkeye, but he wouldn't be my primary target right now.

Mystique's behavior troubles me more with each passing moment.

[Blade6119]

(X)

Moon Knight...any thoughts? Spidey? Eric?

i dont think hawkeye will be my target, no

[spleen1015]

I don't trust Hawkeye, but he wouldn't be my primary target right now.

Mystique's behavior troubles me more with each passing moment.

Then kill me!!! You'll find out that you are wrong.

You don't have the guts!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I'm curious why Spiderman brought him up and then left the discussion though.

Because I didn't have anything to add. I don't have any solid feelings that Hawkeye is evil, but he's the only one I have a hunch on right now. That's all I have to go on.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

(Warpath)

Not that I have any fondness for Deadpool, but he wasn't even supposed to be back till today. he didn't get back in until a little bit before deadline last night and had to catch up on the entire day and likely couldn't do that in time to make a good educated decision on where to attack.

Since he had no team offers to join, he didn't really have any direction to go so just stayed out of it seemingly to me. Today he comes in about the same time as most of you and says he is trying to catch up. I think you have to give the guy the time to catch up and going for him today doesn't make as much sense to me.

If he continues to be under the radar today, then tommorrow I fully agree and will support any attack on him if there is no better candidate that has emerged from either day or night actions. I just think its unfair to insist on someone who just got back in town to catch up on 20 pages in the matter of an hour or so.

(X)

I agree Warpath. Frankly there is no one yet who has truly raised my suspiscions, but plenty who have moved themselves up on my list of those to be trusted. So maybe I am going at it from a different direction and am useful for different things.

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Warpath, any thoughts on your fellow Mutants First member Mystique?

[DaddyTorgo]

i dont think hawkeye will be my target, no

(X)
Do you have any potential targets to add to the discussion though Moon Knight?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

(X)

Warpath I agree with you there is something strange about that. It would be too early in the game for any of the minions of Apocalypse to abandon each other.

Perhaps we truly are spinning in circles like a top and are aiming at the wrong target?

At the same time, isn't it too early for them to expose themselves in trying to save Hawkeye (if he is evil), especially since he's been the only real topic of conversation all day?

SPIDER-MAN

[Alan T]

Ok, I need to get going. I've waited for people to present someone else that felt like a better choice, or give a reason why not to go this way, but no one has. I'm heading home to shower up and will check in again before I head out for the night. (for only like 4-5 minutes though)

Attack Hawkeye

[Alan T]

(X)

Warpath, any thoughts on your fellow Mutants First member Mystique?


Out of my 3 team mates, I get the best vibe from her over the others. I think most of the cases for going after her is just because she is driving them up the wall. Not really a great reason for me to go after her.

Ok out for real. back in like 15-25 minutes briefly before I'm gone for the night.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

My main concern about attacking Hawkeye is the fact that nobody has defended him. I don't know that I'm sold. That said, I can't say that I have a better suspect though.

[Blade6119]

(X)
Do you have any potential targets to add to the discussion though Moon Knight?

im leaning to captain marvel or mysitiqe right now...marvel for her comments about merging teams, and mystique for daring people to attack her.

Hawkeye is my closest friend in the marvel universe, and i quite frankly dont think him using a special attack before GI defended means much...if after, id be worried...but he did it when it seemed already sure IM was dying, and i took it to mean he wanted to see how Hoops would handle reporting it...just my .02

[WVUFAN]

Doom will be attacking Wolverine.

How Doom will attack is yet to be determined.

[spleen1015]

(Silver Surfer)

My main concern about attacking Hawkeye is the fact that nobody has defended him. I don't know that I'm sold. That said, I can't say that I have a better suspect though.

It is day 2. Why would you defend him? If we end up killing him with someone defending him and he turns up bad, then the defender immediately hits the suspect list.

[Raiders Army]

(Warpath)

Not that I have any fondness for Deadpool, but he wasn't even supposed to be back till today. he didn't get back in until a little bit before deadline last night and had to catch up on the entire day and likely couldn't do that in time to make a good educated decision on where to attack.

Since he had no team offers to join, he didn't really have any direction to go so just stayed out of it seemingly to me. Today he comes in about the same time as most of you and says he is trying to catch up. I think you have to give the guy the time to catch up and going for him today doesn't make as much sense to me.

If he continues to be under the radar today, then tommorrow I fully agree and will support any attack on him if there is no better candidate that has emerged from either day or night actions. I just think its unfair to insist on someone who just got back in town to catch up on 20 pages in the matter of an hour or so.

*Deadpool*

Thanks for your support; I guess you're pretty objective since you're used to owning casinos. ;)

I actually came in on 15 pages of threads so it wasn't that bad.

[Bonegavel]

Doom will be attacking Wolverine.

How Doom will attack is yet to be determined.

(Wolverine)

Bring it on, chrome dome!

[Blade6119]

(Wolverine)

Bring it on, chrome dome!

Wolverine, if you didnt attack him dont taunt him...it will only make things worse

[Bonegavel]

Doom will be attacking Wolverine.

How Doom will attack is yet to be determined.

(Wolverine)

You better kill me or you won't last the night.

[LoneStarGirl]

im leaning to captain marvel or mysitiqe right now...marvel for her comments about merging teams, and mystique for daring people to attack her.



Do you have something against women? ;)

[Bonegavel]

Wolverine, if you didnt attack him dont taunt him...it will only make things worse

(Wolverine)

He's getting me mad Moon. Soon, I'm not gonna care about the end of the world and I'm just going to rip out this metal throat!

[Blade6119]

Do you have something against women? ;)

spleen is a guy, isnt he? :confused:

[spleen1015]

spleen is a guy, isnt he? :confused:

Mystique isn't.

[Bonegavel]

Le Resistance, who are we going after?

[Blade6119]

(Wolverine)

He's getting me mad Moon. Soon, I'm not gonna care about the end of the world and I'm just going to rip out this metal throat!

I understand that wolverine, but if you are truly innocent of the charges he brings upon you then the best course of action is to act like hes not there. Ignore his attacks, and soon enough you will likely see his attention turned elsewhere. Best way to deal with a bully is not to punch them in the face(or rip our their metal throats as you say), its to not give them the power of your attention.

[Blade6119]

Mystique isn't.
then sure, i hate all women...happy captain marvel?

[Talgian]

Dr. Doom, although it has been a pleasure to work with you, I am afraid I can no longer continue our partnership. I do not believe Wolverine is a sensible target, and I dare not lose sight of our ultimate goal- the destruction of Apocalypse and his Horsemen- due to personal squabbles. Thus, I must, regretfully, resign from our association.

Talgian LEAVE Doom, Sinister & C.

[Raiders Army]

I understand that wolverine, but if you are truly innocent of the charges he brings upon you then the best course of action is to act like hes not there. Ignore his attacks, and soon enough you will likely see his attention turned elsewhere. Best way to deal with a bully is not to punch them in the face(or rip our their metal throats as you say), its to not give them the power of your attention.

*Deadpool*

So let me get this straight: If wolvie pussies out on Doom, Doom punks him and he's taking advice from a guy who couldn't hold his own solo comic book?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Le Resistance, who are we going after?

I don't think it matters. Right now, Hawkeye gets my vote, and I don't see him attacking himself, so we won't get any kind of team bonus. I say attack whomever you feel most deserves it.

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

So let me get this straight: If wolvie pussies out on Doom, Doom punks him and he's taking advice from a guy who couldn't hold his own solo comic book?
Taking the high road because personal vendettas and squabbles hurt the village is not pussying out. Its playing smart, and i only advise what i would do in his shoes. Is there a particular reason you want those two to go at it?

[WVUFAN]

(Wolverine)

He's getting me mad Moon. Soon, I'm not gonna care about the end of the world and I'm just going to rip out this metal throat!

{Doom}

You will grovel and beg before Doom. You will beg Doom to spare you, but Doom shows no mercy to the unworthy.

[Raiders Army]

Taking the high road because personal vendettas and squabbles hurt the village is not pussying out. Its playing smart, and i only advise what i would do in his shoes. Is there a particular reason you want those two to go at it?

Technically you weren't supposed to see what I was saying since I was saying it to the comic book readers out there. ;)

*Deadpool*

If wolvie backs down from a fight, then I'd look at him very carefully. It seems very unlike him.

Then again as I said before, I wouldn't take advice from a guy who couldn't hold his own solo comic book and was the kiss of death for Marvel Knights.

[path12]

It is day 2. Why would you defend him? If we end up killing him with someone defending him and he turns up bad, then the defender immediately hits the suspect list.

(Silver Surfer)

It's not a matter of me defending him, my hotheaded friend. It's an observation that because it is day 2 that if Hawkeye was Apocalypse or his team that I would expect there to be at least an attempt to divert attention onto another. I have not seen that as yet.

[Blade6119]

Technically you weren't supposed to see what I was saying since I was saying it to the comic book readers out there. ;)

*Deadpool*

If wolvie backs down from a fight, then I'd look at him very carefully. It seems very unlike him.

Then again as I said before, I wouldn't take advice from a guy who couldn't hold his own solo comic book and was the kiss of death for Marvel Knights.
Like i said, im not going to enter into a ego contest with someone right now. Its not in the best interest of the village...if i need information from you later ill he happy to re-visit this subject, but i dont want you to make the mistake of thinking you can make me angry. I get angry when i choose to becuase it will gain me something...that applies to every game ive ever played in. Fighting with you will gain me nothing right now

[Raiders Army]

Like i said, im not going to enter into a ego contest with someone right now. Its not in the best interest of the village...if i need information from you later ill he happy to re-visit this subject, but i dont want you to make the mistake of thinking you can make me angry. I get angry when i choose to becuase it will gain me something...that applies to every game ive ever played in. Fighting with you will gain me nothing right now

You know I'm playing a role right? I think you are one of the best WW guys I've played with, so don't be offended.

*Deadpool*

That being said, since I was created by the great Rob Liefield, I've been a premier character. Although I have to share my comic with Nate, at least I'm in a monthly! :)

[Talgian]

the great Rob Liefield
Anyone who would say that must be an agent of evil. Swarm, swarm!

[Blade6119]

You know I'm playing a role right? I think you are one of the best WW guys I've played with, so don't be offended.

*Deadpool*

That being said, since I was created by the great Rob Liefield, I've been a premier character. Although I have to share my comic with Nate, at least I'm in a monthly! :)
Im aware, and im playing mine...moon knight is very unsocial, very much someone who cares about himself and only himself. He is very composed though, and rather intelligent. He is rather like an anti-hulk...someone who never loses his cool, but still is shunned by society to some extent. His dealings with death have obviously made him less then genial, as it would anyone who has gone through what he has

[Raiders Army]

Im aware, and im playing mine...moon knight is very unsocial, very much someone who cares about himself and only himself. He is very composed though, and rather intelligent. He is rather like an anti-hulk...someone who never loses his cool, but still is shunned by society to some extent. His dealings with death have obviously made him less then genial, as it would anyone who has gone through what he has

The last I read of him was Marvel Knights a few years ago. He was working with the Black Widow, Dagger, DD, and Shang-Chi.

[Bonegavel]

Technically you weren't supposed to see what I was saying since I was saying it to the comic book readers out there. ;)

*Deadpool*

If wolvie backs down from a fight, then I'd look at him very carefully. It seems very unlike him.


(Wolverine)

Damn right DP. I may just take a left turn in this "end of the world" moment and take out Doom, evil or not. He'll be Ruler of Snikt!veria before I'm done.

Spiderman just gave me a pass on my pledge, so I may just wind up attacking Doom instead today, just 'cause he's ticking me off!

Damn, I hope that Chuck (X) isn't messing with my head.

[Blade6119]

The last I read of him was Marvel Knights a few years ago. He was working with the Black Widow, Dagger, DD, and Shang-Chi.

I think that falls under Ultimate Moon Knight, which is not my character...the one im playing works totally alone, and does so totally out of religious fervor

[Raiders Army]

Anyone who would say that must be an agent of evil. Swarm, swarm!

*Deadpool*
Pshaw! Who created you? You're a Apocalypse wanna-be!

Hey who was Apocalypse's bitch in Age of Apocalypse? Oh yeah, Sinister, that's who!

[Raiders Army]

I think that falls under Ultimate Moon Knight, which is not my character...the one im playing works totally alone, and does so totally out of religious fervor

Nope. Marvel Knights took place in the 616 universe. You're thinking back to pre-Marvel Knights. Regardless, I understand where you're coming from.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Wolverine)

Damn right DP. I may just take a left turn in this "end of the world" moment and take out Doom, evil or not. He'll be Ruler of Snikt!veria before I'm done.

Spiderman just gave me a pass on my pledge, so I may just wind up attacking Doom instead today, just 'cause he's ticking me off!

Damn, I hope that Chuck (X) isn't messing with my head.

(X)

I'm not Logan. I'm not now nor have I ever been in this game, in your head.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

Still, I have a bad feeling about Magneto and Hulk. Can't get those 2 out of my mind. **Shudders**

[WVUFAN]

The last I read of him was Marvel Knights a few years ago. He was working with the Black Widow, Dagger, DD, and Shang-Chi.

(ooc) If you're into comics, I'd suggest picking up the new Moon Knight series. It's well written, and Dave Finch is a FANTASTIC artist.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/e/e5/250px-MOONKN001COV.png

[Raiders Army]

(Wolverine)

Damn right DP. I may just take a left turn in this "end of the world" moment and take out Doom, evil or not. He'll be Ruler of Snikt!veria before I'm done.

Spiderman just gave me a pass on my pledge, so I may just wind up attacking Doom instead today, just 'cause he's ticking me off!

Damn, I hope that Chuck (X) isn't messing with my head.

*Deadpool*

Let me make it easy for you. I'll chop him down, you finish him off.

ATTACK SURGICAL STRIKE DOOM

The surgical strike takes his health down to 1/2 and ignores any kind of invulnerability. Maybe this way I can drum up some business...

[Barkeep49]

Wow. I'm very suspicious of this attack.

[Blade6119]

Then again as I said before, I wouldn't take advice from a guy who couldn't hold his own solo comic book and was the kiss of death for Marvel Knights.

Minor Appearances

Moon Knight all but disappeared from the Marvel Universe for awhile. In 2001 and 2002 he was a part of the "Marvel Knights" non-team. After making a brief appearance during the Avengers Disassembled story-arc, he made a minor return in the 2005 Marvel Team-Up miniseries, fighting alongside Spider-Man, Daredevil and the Punisher. His appearance in that story was so well received by the fans that Marvel shortly afterward announced a Moon Knight miniseries, which was later decided to continue as an ongoing series before the first issue hit stores. Moon Knight was also featured in the 2099 Manifest Destiny book. The first arc, "The Bottom", of the 2006 relaunch of Moon Knight, by writer Charlie Huston and penciler David Finch, explores Marc Spector's return to crime-fighting following his self-imposed exile.


Kiss of death? How about superstar in training :p

[Raiders Army]

Sorry hoops for the threadjack.

(ooc) If you're into comics, I'd suggest picking up the new Moon Knight series. It's well written, and Dave Finch is a FANTASTIC artist.
I like Finch and I thought Stephen Platt was a great artist as well. I just checked out the Mile High Comics NICE March/April listings for Marvel and Moon Knight wasn't on the list. I was thinking about going with a different company since their website isn't exactly user-friendly so you can adjust your subscriptions.

[Blade6119]

dola:

Television

* A Moon Knight live-action television series from Marvel Studios and No Equal Entertainment was announced on October 25, 2006

[Bonegavel]

*Deadpool*

Let me make it easy for you. I'll chop him down, you finish him off.

ATTACK SURGICAL STRIKE DOOM

The surgical strike takes his health down to 1/2 and ignores any kind of invulnerability. Maybe this way I can drum up some business...

(Wolverine)

You better be right about this Deadpool!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!111

ATTACK DOOM (CLAWS)

[Talgian]

Let me make it easy for you. I'll chop him down, you finish him off.

ATTACK SURGICAL STRIKE DOOM

The surgical strike takes his health down to 1/2 and ignores any kind of invulnerability. Maybe this way I can drum up some business...
This appears to be quite unfounded. Did I miss some provocation by Doom that would case Deadpool to behave in such a manner? If not, then I am almost certain who my target will be this evening.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Wow. I'm very suspicious of this attack.

I second this.

Deadpool, if you're trying to get a team interested in you, this is probably the worst possible way to go about it.

SPIDER-MAN

[SackAttack]

Seems like Deadpool is trying to bait Wolverine into something here. Hmm.

[WVUFAN]

I already PM'ed this to Hoops and Ty, but I'll say it here as well:

ACTIVATE FORCEFIELD

[hoopsguy]

Sorry hoops for the threadjack.


I like Finch and I thought Stephen Platt was a great artist as well. I just checked out the Mile High Comics NICE March/April listings for Marvel and Moon Knight wasn't on the list. I was thinking about going with a different company since their website isn't exactly user-friendly so you can adjust your subscriptions.

No worries on my end at all - I would not have started a game with a comic book universe if I was opposed to comic book conversation.

Now the other twenty players, on the other hand ....

[Blade6119]

DT, path...thoughts?

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Why are you attacking one who was attacked last night?

[SackAttack]

Amend that. Seems like Deadpool successfully baited Wolverine into something here.

Not knowing how much damage Wolverine's claws will do to Doom, are we going to be able to overcome that 1-2 punch with another target?

[Raiders Army]

Kiss of death? How about superstar in training :p

I'll give you that, but going back to:

Im aware, and im playing mine...moon knight is very unsocial, very much someone who cares about himself and only himself. He is very composed though, and rather intelligent. He is rather like an anti-hulk...someone who never loses his cool, but still is shunned by society to some extent. His dealings with death have obviously made him less then genial, as it would anyone who has gone through what he has

Weren't you the first one to join a team? Isn't that not keeping with your character?

Speaking of which, yesterday when I read that the Surfer and Moony joined forces, I was reminded of these gems waaaaay back in What If Volume 1, #34: What If The Watcher Were a Stand-Up Comedian?

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8423/knightdh7.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2998/knight2nw5.jpg

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Wow. Now THAT is interesting Deadpool.

[path12]

DT, path...thoughts?

(Silver Surfer)

Moon, I am gravely concerned by this attack. I am coming to believe that Wolverine may well have attacked Doom last night. I do not understand Deadpool's role in this, however.

[Blade6119]

Wolverine, Doom accused you of attacking him last night...now your attacking him now. Did something happen last night your not telling us, like he attacked you and hes trying to cover it up? Thats the only way i see this play making sense

[SackAttack]

I already PM'ed this to Hoops and Ty, but I'll say it here as well:

ACTIVATE FORCEFIELD

Doctor, Deadpool asserted that his attack ignores any invulnerabilities. Is your forcefield intended to shield from Wolverine, or from subsequent attacks?

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Runt and I were both Weapon projects. Gotta stick together, y'know?

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

My thoughts are that that is a VERY interesting move by Deadpool and now Logan. Better hope that you're right Deadpool, because if you're wrong that looks very suspicious and you are likely the next target.

I'm torn as to what path to follow now.

i need to hop up and run out for a minute though, so if i can fight through this wave of tiredness i will try to formulate thoughts

[Talgian]

Wolverine, Doom accused you of attacking him last night...now your attacking him now. Did something happen last night your not telling us, like he attacked you and hes trying to cover it up? Thats the only way i see this play making sense
I must disagree here. Considering the peronsalities of both parties, I was expecting them to attack each other, based on the insults hurled towards the other.

Deadpool, however, is a complete aberration. More than that, it's an extremely suspicious aberration that must either be explained and defended adequately by Deadpool, or I know who my target will be.

[Raiders Army]

I second this.

Deadpool, if you're trying to get a team interested in you, this is probably the worst possible way to go about it.

SPIDER-MAN

*Deadpool*

Bah, coming from a guy who got his uncle killed, his girlfriend killed, got killed by Kraven, gets replaced by his own clone, and gets pwned by his own costume, this isn't saying much. :)

[WVUFAN]

Doctor, Deadpool asserted that his attack ignores any invulnerabilities. Is your forcefield intended to shield from Wolverine, or from subsequent attacks?

{ooc}
The forcefield won't protect against attacks that have already occured, like the protection Britian did on Iron Man.

[Raiders Army]

I must disagree here. Considering the peronsalities of both parties, I was expecting them to attack each other, based on the insults hurled towards the other.

Deadpool, however, is a complete aberration. More than that, it's an extremely suspicious aberration that must either be explained and defended adequately by Deadpool, or I know who my target will be.

*Deadpool*

Bring it. I already explained why I did it. I need to drum up some business. The best way to do that is to off someone for free.

[Bonegavel]

Wolverine, Doom accused you of attacking him last night...now your attacking him now. Did something happen last night your not telling us, like he attacked you and hes trying to cover it up? Thats the only way i see this play making sense

(Wolverine)

I believe that the Doombot was destroyed by Doom himself to give him the space he needs and I'm not giving him that room.

Besides, he provoked me and backing down isn't something I do.

Deadpool made it easier for me to decide since my team seems to be sitting on their collective thumbs, I thought I would get rid of some of my rage and backup my threats to Doom. Let others know that I'm not just all talk.

If he turns out to be one of the 12, then so be it. Doom baited me and I took the man at his word.

See ya Doom!

[SackAttack]

(X)

My thoughts are that that is a VERY interesting move by Deadpool and now Logan. Better hope that you're right Deadpool, because if you're wrong that looks very suspicious and you are likely the next target.

I see two options here.

1) We do enough damage to another target that perhaps Doctor Doom can survive.

2) We let Deadpool's ploy play out, and if Doom is anti-Apocalypse, Deadpool is in the crosshairs tomorrow.

[WVUFAN]

You shall die.


ATTACK DEADPOOL(Mystic)

[Raiders Army]

You shall die.


ATTACK DEADPOOL(Mystic)

IT TICKLES (Armpits)

[SackAttack]

{ooc}
The forcefield won't protect against attacks that have already occured, like the protection Britian did on Iron Man.

{ooc} I know that, but the PM element confused me. If PMed, does that take precedent over what's happening in the thread? And if so, was it pre- or post-Wolverine?

[Barkeep49]

Ok. The more I think about it the more likely it is that Deadpool's a misguided villager. It seems way too early in the game for the minions to be making that kind of play. EXCEPT if Hawkeye is Apocolypse. In which case the diversionary tactic is necessary. As I think Deadpool is a good guy, or a bad guy only if Apocalypse is Hawkeye, I will join my team

Attack Hawkeye

I view this as more the best of several bad option than a move I'm pleased about.

[Raiders Army]

2) We let Deadpool's ploy play out, and if Doom is anti-Apocalypse, Deadpool is in the crosshairs tomorrow.
*Deadpool*

Listen Cappy, why would I draw attention to myself this way so early in the game if I were Pocky or one of his donkeys? Having the "strategic genius" moniker certainly relates as to why you weren't able to stop Hitler. No wonder you got frozen like a Swanson's TV Dinner.

[Talgian]

Erik, could you expand on why you believe Deadpool to be good?

[Blade6119]

Its basically boiling down to hawkeye or dr. doom, and i tend to trust both...no one wants to consider the targets i put forward?

[hoopsguy]

{ooc} I know that, but the PM element confused me. If PMed, does that take precedent over what's happening in the thread? And if so, was it pre- or post-Wolverine?

All offensive or defensive actions, excluding passive powers, must be posted in the thread to become active. A PM may indicate additional energy behind the power (and must be sent in a timely manner after posting in the thread), but the power is not active until such time that it is posted in the thread.

[Bonegavel]

FYI
Tyrith's inbox is full

[Raiders Army]

Im aware, and im playing mine...moon knight is very unsocial, very much someone who cares about himself and only himself. He is very composed though, and rather intelligent. He is rather like an anti-hulk...someone who never loses his cool, but still is shunned by society to some extent. His dealings with death have obviously made him less then genial, as it would anyone who has gone through what he has

*Deadpool*

So you never said how this description plays into being the first to form a team...

[Barkeep49]

Erik, could you expand on why you believe Deadpool to be good?
Why would one of the horseman risk such an overt attack on the person most trusted to be good? It's not like we're looking at an end game scenario here. I could only come up with one reason why a horseman would risk an attack: to save Apocalypse. It's just too early for such boldness from the bad guys. As such I think it's far more likely good guy boldness, much in the same vein as what Mutants First did yesterday.

[Barkeep49]

I'm off to basketball. Will be home in advance of lynch.

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

So you never said how this description plays into being the first to form a team...
I wasnt planning on role-playing at all this game quite frankly...i thought it would be a normal game where we all had roles. Then others started to role-play creatively(schmidty, wvu), and i decided i would play along. Im not going over the top, very subtle role-playing. But i didnt start until this morning, and even then im going in an out of it.

Basically, im playing to win...im role-playing when i think it would be fun, not all the time

[Blade6119]

I repeat, no one wants to have a big shift to my two picks?

[Bonegavel]

I'm off for home. Won't be on until a bit later (wife is at one of those party things for southern comfort or living or whatever) and have puppy and 6 year old to watch.

CAn't wait for today's action to come to a head!

[Raiders Army]

I wasnt planning on role-playing at all this game quite frankly...i thought it would be a normal game where we all had roles. Then others started to role-play creatively(schmidty, wvu), and i decided i would play along. Im not going over the top, very subtle role-playing. But i didnt start until this morning, and even then im going in an out of it.

Basically, im playing to win...im role-playing when i think it would be fun, not all the time

Gotcha. I did think it was a pretty strange pairing there. ;)

[hoopsguy]

FYI
Tyrith's inbox is full


And he is out of the loop for a couple of hours. I've cleared out plenty of space in mine for the ride home from work, unless people go insane with their PMs.

I'll forward him all required info. Thanks very much for alerting us to the issue.

[Raiders Army]

I'm gone too for a while. I'll be back on later.

[Talgian]

Why would one of the horseman risk such an overt attack on the person most trusted to be good? It's not like we're looking at an end game scenario here. I could only come up with one reason why a horseman would risk an attack: to save Apocalypse. It's just too early for such boldness from the bad guys. As such I think it's far more likely good guy boldness, much in the same vein as what Mutants First did yesterday.
You raise excellent points. If Deadpool is a Horseman, then his actions seemed crafted to defend his superior. Even if he is not Apocalypse, Hawkeye has been in the crosshairs, so it hardly is a poor choice to attack him.

Interesting. Erik, you have convinced me that Deadpool is not worth attacking.

[hoopsguy]

Attack summary with four hours to go, and heading home from work:

Post #1143 (3:23PM) Mystique attacks Hawkeye (knife)
Post #1161 (3:37PM) Warpath attacks Hawkeye (knife)
Post #1197 (4:22PM) Deadpool attacks Doom (special attack - surgical strike)
Post #1202 (4:28PM) Wolverine attacks Doom (claws)
Post #1206 (4:30PM) Doom activates force field
Post #1224 (4:44PM) Doom attacks Deadpool (mystic)
Post #1227 (4:50PM) Magneto attacks Hawkeye (magnetic pulse)

[Blade6119]

I dont want to lose either one, but i just tend to trust hawkeye more then doom. Sorry Double D

ATTACK DR. DOOM (CRESCENT DART)

[WVUFAN]

((OOC)) Sigh ... here goes all the energy I had saved up ...

ACTIVATE DOOMBOT #2

[LoneStarGirl]

Blade, who are your two people?

[path12]

I dont want to lose either one, but i just tend to trust hawkeye more then doom. Sorry Double D

ATTACK DR. DOOM (CRESCENT DART)

(Silver Surfer)

Moon, this concerns me. You mention Mystique and Captain Marvel as your suspects, then strike out at Doom without consensus from the team. I do not understand your action here.

[Grammaticus]

(Venom)

I find Mystique's attack on Doom highly suspicious.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

(Venom)

I find Mystique's attack on Doom highly suspicious.

Mystique attacked Hawkeye, not Dr. Doom.

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

Blade, who are your two people?

you and mystique