Vick under investigation

[Recoil]

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According to WFOR, a station in Miami, police in Miami-Dade are investigating Atlanta Falcons Quarterback Michael Vick for possibly carrying drug paraphernalia into the airport.

Vick allegedly had a water bottle with a secret compartment that contained marijuana residue. A TSA official had asked Vick to throw away his water bottle. However, Vick balked at the idea. Eventually, he threw the bottle away. The official dug it out of the trash and found the secret compartment. The bottle was turned over to the Miami-Dade Police Department for investigation.

[molson]

Where does one buy such a bottle?

[Swaggs]

Where does one buy such a bottle?

hxxp://www.bookofjoe.com/2005/07/water_bottle_sa.html

[st.cronin]

This is a shocking development, right up there with the news that Lance Bass is gay.

[Mateo]

A professional athlete smoking pot? I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

I heard he was trying to board the 4:20 flight back to Atlanta. Not too sure if that's true.

[stevew]

Bitch set me up!

[stevew]

dola

QB 4 LYFE!!!!!!!

[Swaggs]

Who knows if this will end up true. But if it does, don't you think it takes a giant set of balls to try to sneak drugs on an airplane?

Am I the only one that when I travel, even though I know I haven't done anything wrong, is terrified that airport security will think that I have done something wrong?

[Greyroofoo]

i like being drunk

[st.cronin]

Who knows if this will end up true. But if it does, don't you think it takes a giant set of balls to try to sneak drugs on an airplane?

Am I the only one that when I travel, even though I know I haven't done anything wrong, is terrified that airport security will think that I have done something wrong?

I feel that way whenever I deal with cops or security types, no matter what the situation.

[INDalltheway]

Who knows if this will end up true. But if it does, don't you think it takes a giant set of balls to try to sneak drugs on an airplane?

Am I the only one that when I travel, even though I know I haven't done anything wrong, is terrified that airport security will think that I have done something wrong?
fuck tha police.. :eek:

[Swaggs]

fuck tha police.. :eek:

Weren't you like 2 years old when that song came out?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

This is a shocking development, right up there with the news that Lance Bass is gay.

So was DJ Easy Rock his boo?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

fuck tha police.. :eek:

http://www.tshirthell.com/images/a657_new.jpg

[Lathum]

Ron Mexico did it.

[Deattribution]

QB + pot = bad. Any other position and I'd shrug it off (not that I support it).

That's all Vick needs - slower reaction times to his WRs who already can't catch the ball.

[KWhit]

I'm so proud to have him be the leader of the team I support.

:rolleyes:

[Subby]

Are you suggesting he is toking up before games?

[Ben E Lou]

QB + pot = bad. Any other position and I'd shrug it off (not that I support it).

That's all Vick needs - slower reaction times to his WRs who already can't catch the ball.

I don't know much about long-term impact of weed. Are you suggesting that smoking a few joints in the offseason would slow down reaction times when the season comes?

[KWhit]

I don't know much about long-term impact of weed. Are you suggesting that smoking a few joints in the offseason would slow down reaction times when the season comes?

I don't know about it impacting his play, but if weed is important enough to him for him to risk taking it on an airplane, then there's no way he's just doing it in the offseason.

[Ksyrup]

I wonder if he was travelling with Onterrio Smith.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I wonder if he was travelling with Onterrio Smith.

Probably off to recruit Ricky Williams.

[albionmoonlight]

For a year, I coached* basketball at a Boys and Girls Club. I am not sure which of the kids smoked the occasional joint, but you could totally tell who the heavy potheads were. And they really were just a bit behind everyone else in terms of hand/eye coordination.

It says that the bottle contained marijuana residue. Which means that he probably wasn't dumb enough to try and take weed on the plane. Just dumb enough to bring his weed carrier on the plane.

But this is the same guy who picked an alias for his Herpes test that sounds like a bad porn name (and gave the story about him having Herpes WAY more legs than it ever would have had).

He does not strike me as one who really thinks these decisions through to a great extent. ("Hey, I signed a $100 million contract. I can buy a new weed bottle when I land. I should not give the guy shit about making me throw this one away.")

*You can't really call what I did coaching. Almost every kid on the team knew more about basketball than I did. I basically took up space on the sideline as a favor to my friend who ran the (terminally short on volunteers) club. Still, my team made it to the finals of the tournament, due almost entirely to the fact that I had one of those kids on my team who hit his growth spurt a bit earlier than his classmates.

[WSUCougar]

Somewhere Jimmy Mora is giggling and eating Cheetos.

[albionmoonlight]

Somewhere Jimmy Mora is giggling and eating Cheetos.

That's probably true.

I wonder how he'll react when he hears about this story.

[Ksyrup]

Given his brother's issues, I refuse to believe that this guy has been that far removed from whatever issues lead to Marcus' difficulties.

[vtbub]

Weren't you like 2 years old when that song came out?

Bring back QOTM.

[rkmsuf]

Given his brother's issues, I refuse to believe that this guy has been that far removed from whatever issues lead to Marcus' difficulties.

if you had herpes you'd blaze up once in a while as well

[stevew]

That's probably true.

I wonder how he'll react when he hears about this story.

My guess...

Marijuana?!?!?!?!?! Don't talk about Marijuana," Mora said. "Are you kidding me. Marijuana?!?!?!?!?!

[ISiddiqui]

I don't know about it impacting his play, but if weed is important enough to him for him to risk taking it on an airplane, then there's no way he's just doing it in the offseason.

I'd imagine he'd have tested positive for it if he was doing it in the season.

[lordscarlet]

Bitch set me up!

I love you.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'd imagine he'd have tested positive for it if he was doing it in the season.

Umm ... do we know that he doesn't have one positive test already?
Isn't the first one confidential, and no league action taken until there's a second test?

[Ksyrup]

I wonder if Parcells would have cut his ass like Quincy Carter.

[ctmason]

I have yet to meet someone with cornrows that doesn't enjoy the ganja. And yes that includes you too Beckham!

And regarding Quincy, I met him a couple of times at UGA and he seemed like such a level-headed professional. That said, when the CANADIANS say you've got a "serious marijuana problem," you've got a serious marijuana problem.

[wade moore]

I have yet to meet someone with cornrows that doesn't enjoy the ganja. And yes that includes you too Beckham!

Wow.

[John Galt]

Wow.

Yeah. I'm stepping away from that with a thirty-foot pole.

[MacroGuru]

I also have to say, the TSA agent had to have a serious hard on for Vick to go dumpster diving for a water bottle.

[Toddzilla]

I also have to say, the TSA agent had to have a serious hard on for Vick to go dumpster diving for a water bottle."

[Greyroofoo]

Is it dumpster diving if the bottle was above the rim?

[dawgfan]

I also have to say, the TSA agent had to have a serious hard on for Vick to go dumpster diving for a water bottle.
I think it was probably one of two things. Either:

1. The TSA agent recognized Vick, Vick was an asshole to the guy, the guy had a hard-on for Vick and was suspicious enough about Vick's behavior to want to bust him;

2. The TSA agent didn't recognize Vick, thought his behavior was suspicious (maybe the bottle contained bomb-making agents, etc.) and was concerned about the public safety

[daveroswell]

Given his brother's issues, I refuse to believe that this guy has been that far removed from whatever issues lead to Marcus' difficulties.


His brothers probly his supplier.

They prbably taught each other how to make bowls out of water bottles when they were kids. What family support...

I still say this is all Frank Beamers fault...:D

[albionmoonlight]

That the bottle went into the trash will make it harder to prove that it was his. How many water bottles were in that trashcan?

Not saying that it will be impossible to prove--but it's not like they took it out of his hand.

[lungs]

It's not that hard to smuggle pot onto a plane. I've never had to do it but know plenty of folks that have and never have gotten caught. As long as you aren't carrying too much you can tape it to your leg near your balls. Just not on your balls as that would be pretty painful to remove.

The best option of course is to have some waiting at your destination. Not smoking pot is not the best option. That defeats the purpose.

But if it needs to be done, it can be done and I'm sure he's done it plenty. I don't see the need for some crazy water bottle though. I doubt the water bottle can hold much more than that which can be securely fastened to your body without detection.

[Greyroofoo]

I think it was probably one of two things. Either:

1. The TSA agent recognized Vick, Vick was an asshole to the guy, the guy had a hard-on for Vick and was suspicious enough about Vick's behavior to want to bust him;

2. The TSA agent didn't recognize Vick, thought his behavior was suspicious (maybe the bottle contained bomb-making agents, etc.) and was concerned about the public safety

According to CNN, the airport screener asked Vick for the bottle and Vick refused to give it up, so the screener waited for Vick to throw the bottle away and picked it up.

[Celeval]

I have yet to meet someone with cornrows that doesn't enjoy the ganja.

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:confused:

[Desnudo]

http://www.tshirthell.com/images/a657_new.jpg

That would go well with a pair of Bad Idea jeans

[Bad-example]

So it turns out that Vick's chronic issue regarding accuracy has more substance than we knew.

[molson]

I also have to say, the TSA agent had to have a serious hard on for Vick to go dumpster diving for a water bottle.

Or maybe they know that that "Arioso" isn't a real brand of water (if the link above is the product Vick was using).

[flounder]

Is it dumpster diving if the bottle was above the rim?

Adjacent to refuse is refuse.

[Cringer]

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:confused:

That was good.

[KWhit]

Vick lost me as a fan when he flipped off the fans this year. This is just another piece of evidence that this is not a guy who can lead a football team.

[Synovia]

Vick lost me as a fan when he flipped off the fans this year. This is just another piece of evidence that this is not a guy who can lead a football team.

Vick lost me about 3 weeks before that when he said he'd never watched game tape of himself.

[Toddzilla]

I have yet to meet someone with cornrows that doesn't enjoy the ganja.Welcome back to the board PSUColonel!

[ctmason]

Welcome back to the board PSUColonel!

Ah hell, that really was an ignorant comment the way I put it out there. My apologies to the board.

I really was just trying to prove that David Beckham smokes pot...

[John Galt]

Ah hell, that really was an ignorant comment the way I put it out there. My apologies to the board.

I really was just trying to prove that David Beckham smokes pot...

I applaud your apology.

[sabotai]

HE GOT WEED! HE GOT WEED!

[wade moore]

I applaud your apology.

Ditto.

[Atocep]

Its a good thing Marcus had his older brother to turn to for support and mentorship after his problems with the law.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Falcons meeting with Vick 'stressful'
Quarterback scolded by Blank, McKay and Petrino after Miami airport incident
"I met with Michael this morning, the coach did, we clearly expressed our displeasure, had a pretty frank discussion about it," McKay said. "Internally, we will deal with the issue. It's something we should deal with and we will deal with."
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/01/18/0119vick.html

[Toddzilla]

Ah hell, that really was an ignorant comment the way I put it out there. My apologies to the board.Wait. What? Huh? Where'd PSUColonel go?

;)

Very commendable, sir.

[Greyroofoo]

Honestly though, if Vick would just say, "I was only holding it for Marcus", I would probably believe him.

[Easy Mac]

This is why you should always use an assumed name if you're famous, that way no one will ever find out what you do.

[beargrowlz]

Probably off to recruit Ricky Williams.

Heck. he'd be one helluva CFL QB. And he could smoke it legally in Canada.

Mike Vick: Toronto Argonaut ;)<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Buccaneer]

Vick lost me about 3 weeks before that when he said he'd never watched game tape of himself.

What about studying opponent's defenses leading up to and during the game via films and instant snapshots?

[Synovia]

What about studying opponent's defenses leading up to and during the game via films and instant snapshots?
He said he'd never done that either. Hes also never audibled a play.

[Ben E Lou]

Honestly though, if Vick would just say, "I was only holding it for Marcus", I would probably believe him.:D

[Joe]

Vick would have gotten away with it if he used this instead of the water bottle:

http://www.efindoutthetruth.com/Brief_Diversion_Safe.jpg

[sterlingice]

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:confused:

*groan* :D

SI

[sterlingice]

I also have to say, the TSA agent had to have a serious hard on for Vick to go dumpster diving for a water bottle.

Keep in mind, these are the people who could build an entire death star out of little tiny luggage locks they've "lost" since the stupid new safety procedures were put in place.

SI

[DougWyatt]

Ah hell, that really was an ignorant comment the way I put it out there. My apologies to the board.

I really was just trying to prove that David Beckham smokes pot...

I suppose it was cool to apologize, as your comment seemed to bug some people; but I didn't see the ignorance. You simply said you haven't met anyone with cornrows that doesn't toke. Not really saying much, if anything at all. I just assumed you had a small sample size to work with.

[SFL Cat]

Vick didn't score very high on his Solecismic test, did he?

[KevinNU7]

I suppose it was cool to apologize, as your comment seemed to bug some people; but I didn't see the ignorance. You simply said you haven't met anyone with cornrows that doesn't toke. Not really saying much, if anything at all. I just assumed you had a small sample size to work with.
Word

[JonInMiddleGA]

I didn't see the ignorance. You simply said you haven't met anyone with cornrows that doesn't toke.

"

[Rizon]

This is a shocking development, right up there with the news that Lance Bass is gay.

I'VE BEEN ROBBED.

[Rizon]

Has anyone in this thread made the connection with the water intoxication thread? If not, I have just done it.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

The SNL weekend update skit on Vick getting caught at the airport was hilarious. I hope it gets up on youtube.

[stevew]

I suppose it was cool to apologize, as your comment seemed to bug some people; but I didn't see the ignorance. You simply said you haven't met anyone with cornrows that doesn't toke. Not really saying much, if anything at all. I just assumed you had a small sample size to work with.

Everyone I've ever met with Cornrows has toked. Granted, though, we're talking like 5-6 people.

[Ben E Lou]

Vick won't be charged in water bottle incident


Lab tests indicate substance was not illegal

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 01/22/07

Falcons star Michael Vick will not be charged with wrongdoing after tests indicated that a substance in a water bottle he tried to carry through Miami airport security last week was not illegal, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.


Vick will be cleared by the Miami-Dade Police Department in an announcement that could come Monday, the person said. Attempts to reach Miami police for comment Sunday evening were unsuccessful.


<!--endtext--><!--endclickprintinclude--><!--startclickprintinclude--><!--begintext--> Falcons spokesman Reggie Roberts said the team would not comment on the situation Sunday. Messages left with Vick's agent, Joel Segal, were not returned Sunday evening.


ESPN reported Sunday night on its Web site that Vick would be "exonerated" in the incident. The network cited anonymous NFL sources.
The "Aquafina" water bottle the quarterback tried to carry through security at Miami International Airport on Wednesday drew suspicion after TSA security officers found a hidden compartment that contained "a small amount of dark particulate and a pungent aroma closely associated with marijuana," according to a police report.


It was not clear Sunday night what the substance turned out to be.
Vick, who has been selected to three Pro Bowls and whose $130 million contract makes him football's highest-paid player, could be spared discipline from the NFL since there would be nothing linking him to anything illegal.
After a meeting Thursday that owner Arthur Blank, new head coach Bobby Petrino and general manager Rich McKay had with Vick, McKay had said internal discipline could be forthcoming.


By NFL rules, if a player is involved in an incident that draws suspicion of drugs, that player could be subject to being placed in the substance abuse program and random drug testing. League spokesman Greg Aiello said Friday that the NFL office was aware of the situation and was looking into it. He declined further comment.


The bottle police said Vick was carrying Wednesday could hold up to 20 ounces of liquid. Federal laws prohibit carrying liquids in containers of more than 3 ounces through security or onto airplanes.


Vick initially did not want to part with the bottle. After a conversation with a TSA agent at a security checkpoint, he eventually threw the bottle into a waste container. He was not arrested and caught his AirTran flight to Atlanta, where he arrived without incident and went on to meet with members of the Falcons' coaching staff.


After Vick passed through the security checkpoint, the security agent retrieved the bottle and showed it to her supervisor, who then turned the bottle over to Miami-Dade police, according to the police report.


On Friday, Miami police said analyzing the bottle was a low priority for a busy, big-city department and that the process could take weeks.


The recent episode cast Vick into a negative light after a string of incidents over the past two seasons that included him making an obscene gesture to fans at the Georgia Dome after a loss to the New Orleans Saints in November. The NFL fined him $10,000 and ordered him to donate another $10,000 to charity.


A popular yet often criticized player, Vick is coming off a season in which he became the first NFL quarterback to rush for more than 1,000 yards in a season. He also threw a career-high 20 touchdown passes. However, the Falcons finished 7-9 and failed to make the playoffs for a second straight season. Coach Jim Mora was fired.

[flounder]

What a joke. How about waiting until you find out if it really is an illegal substance before you drag someone's name through the mud?

[Ben E Lou]

Well, the Miami PD made it clear that this wasn't a high-priority case for them. Vick is an extremely high-profile athlete. It goes with the territory that if he's involved in a run-in with the law, it's news.

[Ben E Lou]

So....what the heck was IN the secret compartment?

[Joe]

So....what the heck was IN the secret compartment?

herpes

[stevew]

So....what the heck was IN the secret compartment?

Valtrex?

[flounder]

Well, the Miami PD made it clear that this wasn't a high-priority case for them. Vick is an extremely high-profile athlete. It goes with the territory that if he's involved in a run-in with the law, it's news.

I'm not blaming the press for running the story, I'm blaming the TSA and the Miami PD for going to the press with this in the first place.

[Maple Leafs]

The SNL weekend update skit on Vick getting caught at the airport was hilarious. I hope it gets up on youtube.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkPke-puxM8

It's been a long time since SNL destroyed anybody so thoroughly.

[albionmoonlight]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkPke-puxM8

It's been a long time since SNL destroyed anybody so thoroughly.

Although the bit where they kept saying "Really!?!" after every joke got annoying in a hurry.

The jokes were fine. The bit in which they placed the jokes make me want to turn off the computer.

I guess for contemporary SNL, that's chalked up as a win.

[ISiddiqui]

What a joke. How about waiting until you find out if it really is an illegal substance before you drag someone's name through the mud?

I agree with Skydog that it probably wasn't their fault (IIRC, they didn't say anything about it), but I wonder if some of the haters will admit their mistake. The piling on Vick and now this news is just awesome :D.

[VPI97]

So....what the heck was IN the secret compartment?
Morning radio was saying that it was smokeless tobacco. Vick wanted to dip on the plane, but it's not allowed.

[Butter]

Why would he be smuggling dip onto the plane in a secret compartment? Last I checked, that's still legal.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkPke-puxM8

It's been a long time since SNL destroyed anybody so thoroughly.

Thanks. Loved it. I laughed a second and a third time.

[DougWyatt]

Why would he be smuggling dip onto the plane in a secret compartment? Last I checked, that's still legal.

Bingo. I know I'm just speculating and have no proof. But, why on earth would you do that ? It was obviously something he was trying to hide. Why else go to the trouble of obtaining and using a water bottle with a "secret compartment".

C'mon, the police decided it wasn't a big deal and didn't pursue it. Guess they didn't want the drama.

[VPI97]

Why else go to the trouble of obtaining and using a water bottle with a "secret compartment".
I'm sort of with you...but I also know that when I'm flying, I have a few things that I put into "secret compartments" among my travel gear. Dip isn't something that's on the list, though.

[Kodos]

I'm sort of with you...but I also know that when I'm flying, I have a few things that I put into "secret compartments" among my travel gear. Dip isn't something that's on the list, though.

Sends note to TSA.

[Groundhog]

Last month I took a domestic flight to meet my girlfriend's dad for the first time. After flying down there and then flying home again, I unpack my bag (which I'd borrowed off my flatmate) and discovered a single satchel of white powder sitting in the front zip section of the bag. My flatmate doesn't know what it was, presumably some form of methamphetamine, and has no idea when he put it in there because the bag had been stored away in his garage and not used for years.

I can just imagine how much of a first impression I would have made with my girl's father if he'd seen me getting dragged off by airport security for trafficking drugs.

[BishopMVP]

Last month I took a domestic flight to meet my girlfriend's dad for the first time. After flying down there and then flying home again, I unpack my bag (which I'd borrowed off my flatmate) and discovered a single satchel of white powder sitting in the front zip section of the bag. My flatmate doesn't know what it was, presumably some form of methamphetamine, and has no idea when he put it in there because the bag had been stored away in his garage and not used for years.

I can just imagine how much of a first impression I would have made with my girl's father if he'd seen me getting dragged off by airport security for trafficking drugs.When I was with my family flying to and around Australia (Boston-LA, LA-Sydney, then about 4 smaller flights in-country) in the summer of 2002, I needed to find my Swiss Army knife for some reason. Long story short, eventually I found it in the front pocket of my backpack I'd been carrying on every plane and through at least 5 seperate security checkpoints, including the flight (Boston-LA) used for 9/11 the previous fall. At which I was actually called out for special screening and had guys running over to check me at that security checkpoint because I had a thing of 20 AA batteries that resembled a full clip on the screening, where they emptied the entire back pocket and confiscated nail clippers. Made me feel real good about security procedures. (Of course, the easiest way to beat security is take 2 of those bags used to protect film, arrange them so they show up as one on the X-ray, and have the second one with contraband put under a couple layers of clothing directly below the easily seen top one. Or so I hear.)

[bhlloy]

About 7-8 years ago in high school we are heading back from Stuttgart going through security when one of the guys turns to me with complete terror in his eyes. Turns out the dumbass left a fat 8 inch knife/machete kind of thing in the lower side pocket of his combat pants that he had bought while over there.

Anyway, he went through the metal detector and a pat down without anybody raising an eyelid. Granted this was pre-9/11 and not a particularly high profile route but still not exactly reassuring.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I could actually believe the story about him having a stash of Skoal in the bottle but that doesn't account for the "pungent aroma closely associated with marijuana" that was up front in the story.

What did he do, get a ride to the airport from a bunch of stoners?
(I'm thinking that's actually a pretty reasonable bet for the actual explanation, but what does that say about his judgemental abilities in & of itself).