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Buccaneer

01-29-2007, 09:44 PM

DaddyTorgo was kind enough to bring to our attention, a soon-to-be-released American Civil War game from the makers of Birth of America.

http://www.a-acw.com/

What I did not realize about Ageod is that Phillipe Thibaut is there, one of the original designers of Europa Universalis.

In looking at the review at wargamers.com of Birth of America, I saw this

Artificial Intelligence

Birth of America provides four settings for artificial intelligence. I only used the default medium setting playing though the campaigns and scenarios since the difficulty for each varied widely. The AI seemed solid, pouncing on openings, not exposing itself too easily, and attacking objectives that were necessary for its criteria to win.

For a strategy game, that is refreshing to read. And here's a link that DaddyTorgo provided to a forum post showing screenshots

http://www.ageod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2047

Grammaticus

01-29-2007, 10:04 PM

This game looks awesome. When is it due?

DaddyTorgo

01-29-2007, 10:07 PM

This game looks awesome. When is it due?

it's due sometime in February, March at the latest apparently according to the devs, depending on how bug-squashing goes.

I didn't know if Phillipe's name would hold any sway with you Bucc, but apparently it does in a good way ;)

Buccaneer

01-29-2007, 10:21 PM

it's due sometime in February, March at the latest apparently according to the devs, depending on how bug-squashing goes.

I didn't know if Phillipe's name would hold any sway with you Bucc, but apparently it does in a good way ;)

LOL, you're right. As much as I had a falling out with EU, I was glad that Ageod has some pedigree, esp. since I had not heard of them (or had forgotten about BoA).

SFL Cat

01-29-2007, 10:29 PM

The reviewer at pcgames wasn't high on it. Of course, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

hxxp://pcgames.gwn.com/reviews/gamereview.php/id/991/p/0/title/Birth_of_America.html

Buccaneer

01-29-2007, 10:41 PM

The reviewer at pcgames wasn't high on it. Of course, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

hxxp://pcgames.gwn.com/reviews/gamereview.php/id/991/p/0/title/Birth_of_America.html

Yeah, esp. since they got 12 yr old kids doing PC reviews online at pcgames. Definitely a huge grain of salt site.

Galaril

01-29-2007, 11:28 PM

DaddyTorgo was kind enough to bring to our attention, a soon-to-be-released American Civil War game from the makers of Birth of America.

http://www.a-acw.com/

What I did not realize about Ageod is that Phillipe Thibaut is there, one of the original designers of Europa Universalis.

In looking at the review at wargamers.com of Birth of America, I saw this

For a strategy game, that is refreshing to read. And here's a link that DaddyTorgo provided to a forum post showing screenshots

http://www.ageod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2047

Yeah let's not forget he also was the producer of fine products like 'Pax Romana " and "Great Invasions";)

Mustang

01-30-2007, 12:17 AM

The reviewer at pcgames wasn't high on it. Of course, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

OMG, IT HAS A LEARNING CURVE!!!!1!1!!!!

PEOPLE LOST GAMING TIME!11!!!!1!

That was a horrible review...

Icy

01-30-2007, 03:47 AM

Their Birth Of America game is said to be the best wargame of 2006 in a lot of places, I have been tempted to buy a it a few times already, but now i'll wait for this civil war one as the period is more fun for me.

Narcizo

01-30-2007, 05:39 AM

"There is literally tons of information available"

:D

Grammaticus

01-30-2007, 08:29 PM

Buccaneer

02-17-2007, 11:55 AM

Any further news?

DaddyTorgo

02-17-2007, 11:57 AM

nope. i'm checking the site 2-3x a day and nothing yet. sometime before march is still on target according to phil though

Buccaneer

02-17-2007, 12:52 PM

i'm checking the site 2-3x a day

LOL. Thanks and let us know.

DaddyTorgo

02-17-2007, 12:53 PM

of course.

DaddyTorgo

03-02-2007, 09:04 AM

philippe just provided an update on the release over on the site..."not before late march. Before April unless something unexpected crops up in which case we could push it into early April."

so there you have it guys. We'll be waiting a little while longer it appears.

Buccaneer

03-02-2007, 11:35 AM

Thanks.

I wonder if their boards are filled with internet morons who are screaming, "I WANT IT NOW" and threatening lawsuits if they don't get it right this minute?

JonInMiddleGA

03-02-2007, 11:52 AM

I wonder if their boards are filled with internet morons who are screaming, "I WANT IT NOW" and threatening lawsuits if they don't get it right this minute?

Not much of that, but someone did mention that the beer tent RoXored and that Quantrill's Raiders were looking great in the pre-season.

Drake

03-02-2007, 11:53 AM

Found this after following Bucc's links above:

If World War Two had been an online Real Ttime Strategy game, the chat room traffic would have gone something like this.

*Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*
*Eisenhower has joined the game.*
*paTTon has joined the game.*
*Churchill has joined the game.*
*benny-tow has joined the game.*
*T0J0 has joined the game.*
*Roosevelt has joined the game.*
*Stalin has joined the game.*
*deGaulle has joined the game.*
Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help
Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
Roosevelt: get antiair guns
Churchill: i cant afford them
benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
paTTon: stfu
Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker
Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is gay
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
T0J0: holy ****holy****hoyl****!
*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
*benny~tow has left the game.*
Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
*paTTon has left the game.*

Buccaneer

03-02-2007, 01:18 PM

That's awesome.

King of New York

03-02-2007, 01:35 PM

That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time--I had tears rolling down my cheeks by the end.

SFL Cat

03-02-2007, 02:48 PM

Brilliant!

WSUCougar

03-02-2007, 06:57 PM

Perhaps my favorite exchange:
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped

DaddyTorgo

04-05-2007, 10:48 PM

release date is said to be "before the anniversary of the war's beginning" btw guys

oh, and the manual for the game is out. If you visit the forum there's a link to DL it in the sticky thread at the top.

WSUCougar

04-06-2007, 08:05 AM

release date is said to be "before the anniversary of the war's beginning" btw guys.
April 12th, if you're scoring at home.

Galaril

04-06-2007, 09:52 AM

April 12th, if you're scoring at home.

I was about ready to pick up Forge of Freedom and am curious how this AGEOD game will basically differ from the Forge of Freedom? And wasn't Forge of Freedom pretty good?

DaddyTorgo

04-06-2007, 10:01 AM

April 12th, if you're scoring at home.

thanks cougar. I was trying to leave that nice and vague to force people to think:p

DaddyTorgo

04-08-2007, 12:36 PM

woot

just saw this over on the forum, from one of the AGEOD employees

AGEod's American Civil War development has been stopped. <hr style="color: rgb(244, 214, 168);" size="1">   ... because it's 100% finished!!!! http://www.ageod.com/forums/images/smilies/mdr6.gif

Sorry, I could not resist this one...

We're busy testing and fixing the last details, you can expect some really good news in the next coming days...

Did we mention something about Fort Sumter? http://www.ageod.com/forums/images/smilies/innocent.gif

Best regards,

Korrigan

NB: Spread the word, post on you favorite forum, tell to your grand-mother, the public has the right to know!!!!

DaddyTorgo

04-12-2007, 02:10 AM

RELEASE...WE HAVE RELEASE

actually we had release like 4 hours ago, but the servers were so slammed I couldn't even get onto the website to confirm (true story)

hxxp://ageod.telechargement.fr/fiche.html?REF=648880

make sure you order the english version in your cart

Icy

04-12-2007, 07:35 AM

Umm really tempting, but... afraid of possible bugs on release day. How is their usual support and bug fixing?

Btw, It's the price 39.99€ for everybody or just for Europeans?

Galaril

04-12-2007, 07:39 AM

DaddyTorgo

04-12-2007, 05:09 PM

45.00 US$ is a little steep for a game from a indie like developer and with it being a download only with apdf manual that needs to be printed out. I think I will wait for a sale and/or more impressions;)

well I purchased so when I dig into it (likely this weeknd) i'll have more impressions n such

DaddyTorgo

04-12-2007, 05:11 PM

Umm really tempting, but... afraid of possible bugs on release day. How is their usual support and bug fixing?

Btw, It's the price 39.99€ for everybody or just for Europeans?

from what I read on the boards it's good. And it's a stable platform (2nd game on this platform) so any platform-related bugs are likely to be already squashed/minimal. I've seen a couple grammatical oddities, but being as you're Icy, that likely won't bother you (not being a native english speaker I mean).

flounder

04-12-2007, 05:34 PM

Any word on when a demo will be available?

DaddyTorgo

04-12-2007, 06:02 PM

Any word on when a demo will be available?

no word yet. But like I said, i'll be digging deeper in this weekend and i'm willing to take screenshot requests or whatever

scooter

04-12-2007, 08:25 PM

Any word on when a demo will be available?

A couple of weeks ago Pocus (the lead developer) stated that a demo would probably be out a week or so after release. I'm keeping my eyes open for that.

DaddyTorgo

04-12-2007, 11:12 PM

woot! I just captured DC in the gettysburg scenario by ignoring gettysburg and sending Stuart + Ewell to beseige the city while Lee drew off the Union Army westward and then force-marched to DC and stormed the city.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2598/mwsnap004qu4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Galaril

04-12-2007, 11:19 PM

A couple of weeks ago Pocus (the lead developer) stated that a demo would probably be out a week or so after release. I'm keeping my eyes open for that.

he stated demo wouldn"t be out for a month or so.

Grammaticus

04-12-2007, 11:54 PM

Yes, a demo would be good.

scooter

04-13-2007, 08:46 AM

he stated demo wouldn"t be out for a month or so.

I don't doubt you, but where did you hear your information? Mine came from here:

hxxp://www.ageod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2970

Icy

04-13-2007, 09:07 AM

I'm about to pull the trigger, but have doubts between this and Forge of freedom that is also about the ACW. What i like from what i have read from FoF is that apart from the startegic map and game features, you can choose to fight each battle in the tactical level, something like Steel Panthers (my fav wargame).

Daddytorgo, have you tried FoF? if so, how do they compare?

Galaril

04-13-2007, 09:31 AM

Yeah, great question. I too am ready to buy but am wondering about FOF?

Icy

04-13-2007, 09:52 AM

Yeah, great question. I too am ready to buy but am wondering about FOF?

I asked the same question in my fav Spanish games website as both games were being commented today. A forum member i trust a lot made me this comparative:

FoF is for ACW what WiTP is for the WWII. You control it all, from the big strategic details to the small weapons upgrades to your regiment, including tactic map small battles. It's complex, maybe overwhelming and had a step learning curve if you want to control it all (it has different levels of control). The AI and balance were a bit questionable in the release, it seems that the south was too strong and it could win the war easily, but there is a downloadable beta patch that corrects it (or seems to).

Ageod's ACW is more towards the strategic military side with less micromanaging and the AI looks a bit better programmed, but still too soon to say it. Also the customer support and bugs fixing from the developers looks better based on the past game (BoA) and that they have already published a patch today on the release day.

Both are awesome games, the decision factor should be more depending on the level of control you want and how "grognard" you are.

King of New York

04-13-2007, 10:11 AM

I picked up AGEOD-ACW last night, and I spent the evening fiddling around with it. This game certainly has a learning curve, and I think it is going to take me several evenings of playing before I really get a handle on what is going on. Then I'll be able to make some more useful observations.

Someday I'll pick up FoF as well, but if that game's learning curve is even steeper than AGEOD-ACW, then I might be in some trouble :)

FWIW, AGEOD's support of BoA was outstanding, and I am confident that its support of the ACW game will be just as good.

Buccaneer

04-13-2007, 12:07 PM

Thanks guys, I'm looking forward to playing this sometime later.

Izulde

04-13-2007, 03:18 PM

I still would like to see another series of games like No Greater Glory, Revolution 76, etc. Those games were awesome.

flounder

04-13-2007, 04:09 PM

Yeah. I'm hoping this game will be No Greater Glory without the tedious troop movement.

DaddyTorgo

04-13-2007, 06:42 PM

havn't played FoF. I badly with there was a demo of FoF, because it sounds awesome, but I'm very leery of buying games sight unseen, at least until a dev has earned my trust.

i'll say this...since I bought ACW it's all I've played for games. No OOTP, no FM...just straight ACW. And I am planning to get deeper this weekend and will post further impressions as I go.

Galaril

04-13-2007, 10:38 PM

Ah, some people are reporting on the developer board taking Richmond in 2-4 turns and beating the game. Hope this is just abug and not crappy AI?

Buccaneer

04-18-2007, 08:13 PM

Ummm....hi. Welcome to Hollywood?

DaddyTorgo

04-18-2007, 08:46 PM

i'd say that's just a bug. I havn't gotten DEEP into the game time-wise, but I wouldn't call the ai "crappy"

flounder

05-02-2007, 11:32 AM

Just letting everyone know that the demo has been released.

http://www.ageod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3692

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 05:33 PM

this game is absurd. I can't stop playing. I dream about strategies and moves.

Buccaneer

05-02-2007, 06:59 PM

this game is absurd. I can't stop playing. I dream about strategies and moves.

Then give us your @%#$! review or AAR or something about how it plays.

Buccaneer

05-02-2007, 07:19 PM

Please.

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 07:56 PM

Then give us your @%#$! review or AAR or something about how it plays.

can't stop playing.

But honestly...i will try to work something up. Feel free to ask questions if you want tonight.

I will run through a typical-turn tonight, maybe even complete with screencaps. I am up in early 1862 and having great success as the south, so it should at least be interesting.

there's so much though...questions would be greatly appreciated. Or even questions after I post things tonight that I can further clarify or something.

I'll get right on that.

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 07:58 PM

there's just so much. I could skim right over something that's important to you, but let's see what I can do hmm?

Buccaneer

05-02-2007, 08:05 PM

Just start with something early on to give us (ok, me) a taste of how this game plays. I haven't read any reviews (or remember much about this, truthfully) because I have been waiting for you or someone here to do it.

What are the decisions you go through each turn? What are the screens/information you view each turn to make those decisions? How well are the information screens presented - are they clear, concise with just the right amount of information without being overloaded?

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 08:06 PM

okay. Sorry I was tardy on putting something up. It's defiantely deep...took me 4 or 5 restarts to stop screwing up and get it actually going

Buccaneer

05-02-2007, 08:12 PM

okay. Sorry I was tardy on putting something up. It's defiantely deep...took me 4 or 5 restarts to stop screwing up and get it actually going

That's interesting, I'll add a question asking what happened? I don't care what happened on the map but as you can tell, more interested in how you play or in this case, how you learned to play.

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 08:16 PM

That's interesting, I'll add a question asking what happened? I don't care what happened on the map but as you can tell, more interested in how you play or in this case, how you learned to play.

principally trying to figure out the whole "chain of command" thing. It's in the tutorial, but figuring it out in practice takes some time. Especially cuz the manuel is so long I probably glossed over some stuff. So one game I was going along fine till I realized your units have to be in a level 2+ city and in defensive or passive mode to receive reinforcements...not realizing that led to the massacre of a whole army...ditto with the winter weather one time wiping out two whole corps...things like that.

I've got hotkeys setup for screen captures and i'll give you a nice run-through of all the screens and my "typical turn" type thing.

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 09:44 PM

screenshots and a "turn in the life" uploading to rapidshare right now. You all will have to let me know what questions you have too after that.

figured it was easier to do it that way then bomb this thread with the huge file and all.

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 10:03 PM

linky-goodness

http://rapidshare.com/files/29187380/AGEOD_ACW.zip.html

the document is in there and the pics are too so you all can enlarge them to your heart's content.

questions welcome and I will do my best to answer them all

Desnudo

05-02-2007, 10:13 PM

Do you know what the system requirements are? Thanks.

Buccaneer

05-02-2007, 10:13 PM

Thank you.

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 10:36 PM

Do you know what the system requirements are? Thanks.

system reqs (from the manuel)

minimum
1200 mhz processor (intel, amd)
1024mb RAM vRAM, direct x 9c compatible
16-bit direct x 9c compatible
8x CDROM (for cd version)
keyboard, mouse
xp or win 2000 (not sure on vista, check forum)
1500 MB HD space
direct x 9c

DaddyTorgo

05-02-2007, 10:36 PM

Thank you.

yw. Let me know if you have more specific questions on anything. I went pretty broad on that document

rowech

05-06-2007, 08:50 AM

Daddy Torgo...see your private messages please.

DaddyTorgo

05-06-2007, 10:35 AM

Daddy Torgo...see your private messages please.

I see. I got distracted yesterday, figured i'd give you a nice response 2day

SunDevil

08-03-2007, 01:45 PM

Anyone else have any thoughts on this game. I see that patch 1.06 was released in mid July. I also read the battles are determined for you and really you are just dealing with strategy. Though it is stated that this game is very deep. Thanks

DaddyTorgo

08-03-2007, 01:50 PM

I love this game. I played up through mid-1862 before the first patch even came out. Since then i've been waiting for a couple of the patches to fix a couple issues before I really pick it back up and dig hard into it (minor stuff like the blockade feature, and pictures for all the minor 1-star generals). My first run-through was really just spending a year and a half trying to figure out the mechanics of the gameplay really.

although you don't play out the battles, strategically the game has more than enough depth for me. The AI consistently has me reacting to its moves (although this may be a mark of how much I suck more than anything else).

see earlier in the thread where I did a "step by step" walkthrough of a turn. if the document is gone from rapidshare I can re-upload it or email it to you.

Radii

08-04-2007, 10:13 PM

see earlier in the thread where I did a "step by step" walkthrough of a turn. if the document is gone from rapidshare I can re-upload it or email it to you.

I'd be interested in that. I'm messing with the demo but am a bit overwhelmed, i'm sure that would help a bit :)

DaddyTorgo

08-04-2007, 10:38 PM

uploading again. Linky goodness in a moment

http://rapidshare.com/files/47041006/ACW_Report.doc.html

Peregrine

08-04-2007, 10:46 PM

I definitely need to check this game out, it had slipped off my radar but it looks great.

Radii

08-05-2007, 03:02 PM

Awesome, thanks!

TargetPractice6

08-05-2007, 05:07 PM

Found this after following Bucc's links above:This is, like, the best thing on the internet.

Calis

12-18-2007, 05:04 PM

Any more thoughts on this after a few months?

I've grabbed the demo for this game and their new one, Napoleon's Campaigns. I'm torn a bit between which one to get. I'm much more familiar with the Civil War, so it has that going for it..but I've really been wanting to read up more on the Napoleonic Wars which I know next to nothing about apart from what I've learned from Aubrey/Maturin and Horatio!

The Napoleon campaign also has the added benefit of being newer, so I'm wondering if it's got any new cool features that make it stand out, and also by the fact I'm not sure I have the desire/ability to actually play out the whole Civil War campaign so the shorter scenarios are tempting.

The Civil War game however has the advantage of being about the Civil War.

I'm torn.

Just curious if people were still enjoying these AGEOD games and which they preferred.

I actually bought Birth of America but for some reason became enamored with For Liberty much more than I did that one. It was simpler, and just clicked with me for some reason. Anyway, I enjoyed both, and I love the art for these AGEOD games. Far and away the best I've seen in the wargame genre.

As an aside, in my attempt to learn more about Napoleon and that time period I've been listening to a series of podcasts called Napoleon 101, that has about 30 or so hours of talk discussing his life and exploits and I've listened to the first 4 episodes and it's really great stuff. It's led by J. David Markham who I think is a pretty well respected Napoleon scholar and it's highly recommended.

Apathetic Lurker

12-18-2007, 05:41 PM

It's still a mighty fine game....but the learning curve is...steep. After the initial gaming frenzy i'm down to only about 1 hr per week with this one which is pretty good since I have the attention span of a gnat. That said, for Christmas break i'm gonna pick up FOF just for the tactical part.

You can get the Ageod version from NWS-online for a lot cheaper than getting it from Matrix

path12

12-18-2007, 07:29 PM

I was messing around some with the demo today for the Civil War game. I merge units way too easily and don't always remember to lock first, so that's a pain in the ass, but the game itself seems pretty fun. I think I'll end up picking this one up.

DaddyTorgo

12-18-2007, 07:36 PM

twothree

02-03-2008, 09:56 AM

You can get the Ageod version from NWS-online for a lot cheaper than getting it from Matrix

And, now instead of paying Matrix's price of $50 for a download or $60 for a boxed copy, you can get a boxed copy soon from retail for $30 thanks to cdv.

So, I will finally be picking a copy of this game up, hopefully in the next week.

Lonnie

02-08-2008, 09:39 AM

And, now instead of paying Matrix's price of $50 for a download or $60 for a boxed copy, you can get a boxed copy soon from retail for $30 thanks to cdv.

So, I will finally be picking a copy of this game up, hopefully in the next week.

Fry's has it for $24.99 this weekend.

DaddyTorgo

09-13-2013, 01:46 PM

bump

Went to play a little bit last night after finishing up a book ("The Fall of the House of Dixie") and discovered that American Civil War 2 (the next generation version of it, not some fantasy mamby-pamby) is on the way.

Totally snuck under my radar, but I've seen some sites listing Tuesday as release date.

DaddyTorgo

09-13-2013, 02:24 PM

Post with teaser AAR from developers.

View topic - Civil War II teaser AAR: Shiloh Scenario (http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=44405)

Saw another post from last week that it's approaching Gold Master, so I presume that Tuesday may actually be the release date...

DaddyTorgo

09-16-2013, 02:34 PM

Release day tomorrow...release day tomorrow...

Shepp

09-20-2013, 11:44 AM

Has anyone played the new game yet?

JPhillips

09-20-2013, 12:16 PM

Is it only on Matrix? I'd eventually purchase, but not at 39.99. Matrix doesn't ever seem to lower prices.

DaddyTorgo

09-20-2013, 12:41 PM

Is it only on Matrix? I'd eventually purchase, but not at 39.99. Matrix doesn't ever seem to lower prices.

It's also on their site.

I've poked at it a little, but I plan to really dig into it this weekend when I have some longer blocks of time.

Apathetic Lurker

09-20-2013, 10:59 PM

Is it only on Matrix? I'd eventually purchase, but not at 39.99. Matrix doesn't ever seem to lower prices.

They lower their prices for their sales...Otherwise you pay close to full price forever......Niche product so they cant afford to go the way of most pc products.

JPhillips

09-21-2013, 07:41 AM

They lower their prices for their sales...Otherwise you pay close to full price forever......Niche product so they cant afford to go the way of most pc products.

I think the way other indie developers have worked through Steam proves they could do things differently.

I've been wanting to buy Forge of Freedom since it was released in 2006, but it's still listed at 49.99. My Steam list shows how weak I can be, but due to the high initial prices and the lack of reductions, Matrix hasn't gotten a penny from me.

edit: Maximum Football is still 39.99

SlyBelle1

09-21-2013, 07:48 AM

EagleFan

09-21-2013, 09:44 PM

Anyone try the new game yet? If so, thoughts?

Apathetic Lurker

09-21-2013, 10:20 PM

I think the way other indie developers have worked through Steam proves they could do things differently.

I've been wanting to buy Forge of Freedom since it was released in 2006, but it's still listed at 49.99. My Steam list shows how weak I can be, but due to the high initial prices and the lack of reductions, Matrix hasn't gotten a penny from me.

edit: Maximum Football is still 39.99

Most of their games are such niche products even steam might not be to help them too much...PC wargaming such as what Matrix sells and not the pseudo wargaming like RTW II, while not dead is not exactly flourishing.

I'm fine with their prices. If I want one i'll either buy at their price or beta test it. I have over 25 of their games, with about a quarter coming in free from being a beta tester and the rest pretty much at full price or close to it...

Bobble

04-17-2015, 08:04 AM

[Necro-tastic]

Has anyone played the new AGEOD Civil War II? Is it significantly better than the old AGEOD Blue and Grey that I already own and never finished and don't really want to pay $40 for a upgraded graphics on a game I never really got through in the first place and I just want to play 'cause I've been watching the History Channel's Civil War in Color series?

JPhillips

04-17-2015, 08:17 AM

I really like it, but there's a pretty steep learning curve.

Bobble

04-17-2015, 08:51 AM

I really like it, but there's a pretty steep learning curve.

Is it much different than the old AGEOD Blue and Grey (which I already own)? i.e. Is it worth buying this when I already have that?

Dutch

04-17-2015, 10:07 AM

I would love to play, but that learning curve and my overall interest in thus genre probably dont match up well enough to take the plunge.

BYU 14

04-17-2015, 10:19 AM

Is it much different than the old AGEOD Blue and Grey (which I already own)? i.e. Is it worth buying this when I already have that?

It is much better IMO, great detail, challenging AI and a multitude of things to manage. But as mentioned by JPhilips, steep learning curve, though they do have a couple of small scenarios, like only managing the war in the west that help.

JPhillips

04-17-2015, 12:18 PM

Is it much different than the old AGEOD Blue and Grey (which I already own)? i.e. Is it worth buying this when I already have that?

I haven't played that, so I don't know. It's very similar to ACW 1, just much better. My initial problem was the lack of intuitive UI. It can take a while to figure out how to accomplish simple tasks. Strategy isn't hard to figure out, although you'll likely get whipped for a while.