Werewolf XLII: Werewolf Survivor Sign-up Thread

[Barkeep49]

Can you outwit, outplay, and outlast your fellow Werewolf players to be crowned FOFC's ultimate Survivor?

This game will combine the mechanics of Werewolf (gotta find them before they kill you) with those of Survivor (including reward and immunity challenges).

Some details will be forth coming on how this all works, but as one would expect with Survivor there will be some twists and turns. Sign-ups will go through the weekend. Day 1 will start Monday.

Day cycles will begin at 9 AM Eastern.
Night cycles will end at 10 PM Eastern.
On selected days there might be an earlier challenge deadline, though players for whom that is a problem are still encouraged to play as it should not cause an issue for them. Reasonable accommodation (late deadline or early knowledge) will be attempted. I like having as many people as who want play and will do what I can to help you play in this game.

Very Important
This game will take place over multiple threads. There will be a common thread that all players can post in, as well as threads for each specific tribe. Players will be honor bound to only check the threads that they are supposed to look at. I am placing my faith in my fellow players agreeing not to cheat. I am basing this game off of games on another board which have worked well and am hopeful that building off of the Ethics thread that people will abide by this rule in this game.

More details to come in the next couple of days.

Player List
1. Tyrith
2. Lathum
3. Alan T
4. Path12
5. LonestarGirl
6. Passacaglia
7. st.cronin
8. Grammaticus
9. Raiders Army
10. Golden Eagle
11. Anxiety
12. KWhit
13. Schmidty
14. Marathoner
15. ImTheCrew
16. Swaggs
17. ntndeacon
18. Mr. Wednesday
19. Jonathan
20. Chief Rum
21. Blade
22. Ardent

Alternatives
1. SnDvls
2.
3.
4.
5.

[Barkeep49]

Credit to Yekrats of BGG for coming up with the following guidelines (which I have edited slightly):

About this game:
1. Survivor is unfair, and Werewolf is unfair. Put the two together, and you have a real potential for an unfair game. I'm not looking to blatantly screw anyone, but it might happen. I offer you my apologies in advance, but little else :).
2. You and your tribe will be asked to participate in a series of challenges. If you win these, you'll have a better chance of being the Ultimate Survivor.
2a. You have a life outside of WW. (You do, don't you?) If you are unable to participate due to some personal conflict, please let me know as soon as possible.
2b. Worst case scenario, of course, is you don't get to participate in a challenge, and another tribe or player will win. That may be a setback, but it shouldn't be a game breaker.
3. About "time sensitive challenges". I've tried to make the challenges so that they are not reliant on a particular player having to be online at a particular time. I do expect you to check in occasionally and see what's going on.
4. Is it fair if all of the players participate in tribal challenges, even if some of the tribes have fewer players than others? On the show, if one tribe has fewer players, they make some players sit out. I think it might be more fun if all players play. So, during many challenges I will allow all players to play. This may be a little unfair to a team that has lost a member or two, but this is an unfair game; see rule #1, above. However, I might change this rule, which is unfair to the team with more players; see rule #1.
6. PMs between players is forbidden, unless allowed by a specific role.
7. Survivor is a game in which the rules can change suddenly and dramatically. Any element or rule of the game can change, including victory conditions. The onus is on the player to adapt to those rules changes, whatever they may be.

Tribal rules:
1. There will be one main thread. Participants may post there like a regular game of Werewolf.
2. You will be assigned to a tribe, which will get its own thread. You are not allowed to browse or post in the other tribes' forums, even after the tribes are disbanded. After the game is over and a final Survivor is crowned, you may browse all forums.
3. Your tribe will be assigned a "buff" of a particular color. This will be your tribe color, and you are expected to "wear your buff" in the main thread, that is, post with your tribe color. To post in that color use (or red, or orange, or whatever color your tribe might have) at the start of your posts and at the end of your posts.
4. Some events may require that you use only the main thread, and not your tribal thread. I will post a message in your thread when this happens and, using my spiffy mod powers, will lock your thread.

Game Etiquette
Please do not post any PMs you might receive from me. Feel free to paraphrase but outright posting is not allowed. What happens in the game should be based on what has happened in the game. Unless allowed by your role, please do not communicate with other players outside of the appropriate threads. If you are concerned that a strategy might not be allowed by the rules please contact me before attempting the strategy, however this is Survivor. Gaming of the rules and other players is to be expected. Finally, players are not necessarily gone from the game whey they are killed/voted out and so they should refrain from posting or contacting others; if you need to commiserate send it my way :).

Assorted Info
1. You may use external sources, people, programs, and other information sources to assist you, as long as they do not provide you with insider information that the other players aren't privy to. For example, if I were to have a trivia challenge, you could consult either Wikipedia or your smarty-pants friend who was on Jeopardy! for the answers. However, bribing a behind-the-scenes helper for information would be breaking the rules.
2. You may not post a request for help in any thread outside of the the main thread or your tribal thread. If you know people personally, you may ask for help from friends directly, but not indirectly through posts on other forums or any other forum or chat.
3. On Sunday, February 4th I will send out roles to players. Rules for roles will be sent out in individual emails and/or listed on the main thread.
4. Roles may also be awarded in challenges. Roles can have positive or negative effects.
5. Some objects may be acquired during the game, which will grant roles to the person carrying it. Objects may be given to another player. (Just make sure I know about the transfer.) Unless otherwise noted, if someone has an object and is killed, a random person will get the object (in the same tribe, if possible).
6. You are expected to follow the "honor system" and not cheat. You may only, for instance only read the main thread and your tribal thread. No peeking at a thread you are not allowed into, no "insider information" on challenges, and that sort of thing. This is just a game and should be fun, therefore, please don't lower yourself to cheating!
7. If you break one of these rules, I have the right to determine a penalty. It may be nothing; it may be devastating!


If you have any questions, please let me know.

[Tyrith]

First man in!

[Lathum]

in

[Tyrith]

I'd like to note that I was intending to take the next game or two off, but I like Survivor and I really like the game concept, so I'm gonna let myself be dragged back in.

[path12]

I thought about joining those games on Survivor but didn't. Look forward to trying it here. In.

[Alan T]

I will play

[spleen1015]

Can I play?

[st.cronin]

in

And Tyrith, 24 posts?? Congrats!

[Raiders Army]

Yeah, this sounds real good! Innie.

[Lathum]

BK, I'll be driving home from Saldana's most of the day monday, will that effect the game in any way

[Barkeep49]

BK, I'll be driving home from Saldana's most of the day monday, will that effect the game in any way
No you should be fine.

[Abe Sargent]

I'll be happy to jump in.

[GoldenEagle]

I am in for now.

[KWhit]

I'll play. I have always liked Barkeep's games.

Plus I like the name Barkeep. I could live without the 49, but that's neither here nor there.

[Barkeep49]

I'll play. I have always liked Barkeep's games.

Plus I like the name Barkeep. I could live without the 49, but that's neither here nor there.
Thanks on both accounts :).

[Schmidty]

HULK IN GAME AND SMASH YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!

[Schmidty]

I having as many people as who want play and will do what I can to help you play in this game.


HULK ONLY ONE IN GAME WHO UNDERSTAND SENTENCE!!!!

[st.cronin]

I want Schmidty to post like this all the time.

[spleen1015]

I want Schmidty to post like this all the time.

Even in the real forums.

[hoopsguy]

I want Schmidty to post like this all the time.

Even in the real forums.

Green font is mandatory.

[Grammaticus]

I'm in

[Marathoner]

I'm in.

[Lathum]

I'm in.

nice, new blood

[path12]

nice, new blood

Should we vote him off day 1?

J/K Marathoner, glad to have new folks playing.

[Tyrith]

I hope Lathum didn't asexually divide or anything, because he's on the list twice right now.

[path12]

I hope Lathum didn't asexually divide or anything, because he's on the list twice right now.

He really, really, really wants to play. :)

[Lathum]

I hope Lathum didn't asexually divide or anything, because he's on the list twice right now.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[LoneStarGirl]

HULK ONLY ONE IN GAME WHO UNDERSTAND SENTENCE!!!!

hahahaha I read that sentence like 5 times before giving up

[LoneStarGirl]

Sure I'll play, why not. I dont recall ever playing with Kwhit and Marathoner looks new! How exciting!

[spleen1015]

Barkeep, please take my name out.

I like the theme, but I need to take a WW break. Thanks.

[Schmidty]

Barkeep, please take my name out.

I like the theme, but I need to take a WW break. Thanks.

HULK SAY SOMETHING TO PISS OFF INARDS MAN?????

[Blade6119]

Ill play, LSG needs to some revenge

[Swaggs]

Man... I was planning on sitting out awhile, as I am routinely working late and don't get home until around 8:00 PM (EST). If that isn't a problem, I'd like to play in this one.

[ntndeacon]

I would like to be in this game as well. it looks fun

[Mr. Wednesday]

I could use a little break, but the concept looks really interesting, and I'm a sucker for interesting games.

In.

[Mr. Wednesday]

And what's up with Tyrith tying up two slots? :p

[st.cronin]

I would like two slots, as well, please.

[Alan T]

Oh this looks like a fun game, I'm in

[Barkeep49]

Evidently I was drunk yesterday without taking a drink of alcohol.

[Lathum]

Evidently I was drunk yesterday without taking a drink of alcohol.

does that mean no hangover because if that's possible sign me up.

[Passacaglia]

Count me in! How long will this game last for?

[Barkeep49]

Count me in! How long will this game last for?
Great question. Obviously I don't know the sign-up total yet, however even if I did I haven't quite finished figuring out the finer points of game mechanics. The game will be on the longer side as it will conclude with a jury vote, meaning we'll need to whack a lot of people. There will be some allowances made for that, meaning extra ousters, but still it will not be a short game.

[ntndeacon]

I vote for one of the LoneStargirls listed.

[Alan T]

I vote for one of the LoneStargirls listed.

the one with the capital G or lower case? It could be important.

[ntndeacon]

the one with the capital G or lower case? It could be important.

lower case. Can't have Captain marvel going this early :D

[Lorena]

Evidently I was drunk yesterday without taking a drink of alcohol.

Yeah, Antmeister gets like that when his tea is too strong.

[Tyrith]

I vote for one of the LoneStargirls listed.

Can I vote ntn off the island by chopping his head off and running around with it on a pointy stick? I think he's due :)

[hoopsguy]

Can I vote ntn off the island by chopping his head off and running around with it on a pointy stick? I think he's due :)

This is how Werewolf vendettas are born.

[LoneStarGirl]

Ill play, LSG needs to some revenge

I dont think I want to play if Blade is playing.... :p

[Swaggs]

I hope AE can get in on this one.

He won the FOFC Survivor game a few years ago.

[Blade6119]

I dont think I want to play if Blade is playing.... :p

Just watch you and i be placed on our own team now :)

[Passacaglia]

Great question. Obviously I don't know the sign-up total yet, however even if I did I haven't quite finished figuring out the finer points of game mechanics. The game will be on the longer side as it will conclude with a jury vote, meaning we'll need to whack a lot of people. There will be some allowances made for that, meaning extra ousters, but still it will not be a short game.

Odds it'll be done by the 16th?

[LoneStarGirl]

Odds it'll be done by the 16th?

We will make sure to kill you off by the 16th if you have plans

[Barkeep49]

Odds it'll be done by the 16th?
I would imagine we'd be in the ending phases by then, but I couldn't promise with dead on certainty we'd be done.

[Lorena]

I'll regret it if I don't sign up.

In

[Lorena]

I don't wanna be a pain in the ass but would you mind removing the space from my name BK? Thanks.

[Grammaticus]

Next she is going to ask you to lower case the c, so you might as well do that while you are at it. :)

[Lathum]

I don't wanna be a pain in the ass but would you mind removing the space from my name BK? Thanks.

can we still call you DC?

[Lorena]

Next she is going to ask you to lower case the c, so you might as well do that while you are at it. :)

Haha, actually now that you mention it, that would be nice.

can we still call you DC?

Lathum, you can call me whatever you want.

[Lorena]

19. DodgerchIck


Haha, really funny

[Grammaticus]

Le Freak

by

Dodgerchic

Aaahh.....

[Lorena]

Le Freak

by

Dodgerchic

Aaahh.....

...freak out!

Have you heard about the new dance craze Grammaticus?

[Lathum]

aaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

freak out!!!

[Lathum]

lol, get out of my head woman!!

[Lorena]

aaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

freak out!!!

Now Freak!

I said Freak!

Now Freak!

[Lorena]

lol, get out of my head woman!!

Heh, great minds think alike right? ;)

[Grammaticus]

...freak out!

Have you heard about the new dance craze Grammaticus?

Big fun to be had by everyone

[Lorena]

Big fun to be had by everyone

Grammaticus,

Young and old are doing it, I'm told

[Grammaticus]

I think this is probably going to get us voted out real fast.

[Lorena]

I think this is probably going to get us voted out real fast.

What's the matter? All that pressure got you down? Has your head spinning all around.

[Lorena]

C'mon Grammaticus... feel the rhythm, check the ride. Come along and have a real good time.

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Alright, it's getting annoying now. I can hear Antmeister talking the song instead of singing it.

[Grammaticus]

I'm having flashbacks to 6th grade and my denim vest with the shiny stripes.

[Chief Rum]

If there is room, I will take a spot.

[Barkeep49]

If there is room, I will take a spot.
There is room, as you'd be #20, but as accommodating as I want to be for people's schedules I'm not sure yours would work. There will be challenges going on during the day. When it's a the tribe level this won't be a big deal. However, when it gets down to individual challenges you'd be placing yourself at a disadvantage by not being around. If you want to play the spots yours, it's just that being gone all day on multiple days seems like more of a disadvantage here than in most games.

[Passacaglia]

What about my schedule? I'm pretty much mostly around during the work day -- 9 am to 6 pm central time.

[Barkeep49]

What about my schedule? I'm pretty much mostly around during the work day -- 9 am to 6 pm central time.
That won't be a problem. When needed you'll get your vote in early and will simply participate during the day on challenges.

[ImTheCrew]

can i join?

[Chief Rum]

There is room, as you'd be #20, but as accommodating as I want to be for people's schedules I'm not sure yours would work. There will be challenges going on during the day. When it's a the tribe level this won't be a big deal. However, when it gets down to individual challenges you'd be placing yourself at a disadvantage by not being around. If you want to play the spots yours, it's just that being gone all day on multiple days seems like more of a disadvantage here than in most games.

Actually, my schedule changed two weeks ago. I work nights now, from 3 p.m. to 12 a.m. Between the two jobs, that puts me out at night six days a week. I leave a little before 2 p.m. my time. So I wouldn't be around at deadline, but I could participate most of the day if needed. How would that fit?

[Chief Rum]

dola,

That said, if it is an issue or with the game being more day intense, I would be willing to step aside for someone who can be around all day up to deadline, or for a new player who hasn't played.

[ImTheCrew]

id love to play rum, i can be here 24/7 :-)

[KWhit]

RUTheCrew?

[Lathum]

can i join?

If I can speak for barkeep we always wecome new players!!!!

[Schmidty]

MITheCrew2?

[LoneStarGirl]

Dodgerchick I thought you weren't playing anymore?

[Lorena]

Dodgerchick I thought you weren't playing anymore?

Blame Tyrith

[Blade6119]

id love to play rum, i can be here 24/7 :-)

If were at full capacity, ill give up my spot so the new guy can play. If not, put him in my tribe and ill "take care" of him :D

[Lathum]

If were at full capacity, ill give up my spot so the new guy can play. If not, put him in my tribe and ill "take care" of him :D

right, first lesson crew. Don't trust a word Blade says;)

[Lorena]

right, first lesson crew. Don't trust a word Blade says;)

or lathum ;)

[Lathum]

or lathum ;)

hey! I am the most honest werewold player there is

[Lorena]

hey! I am the most honest werewold player there is

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-024.gif that's me after reading your post

[Barkeep49]

hey! I am the most honest werewold player there is
And I'm perfect at not duplicating people on the sign-up list.

[Lorena]

And I'm perfect at not duplicating people on the sign-up list.

or adding unecessary spaces to people's names. ;)

[Barkeep49]

id love to play rum, i can be here 24/7 :-)
We do love new players. Since Blade has offered you his spot, you're in the game. I'm very excited to have two new people.

If we get another alternate, and no drop-outs, between now and the start of the game, I might very well just run it with 22.

[Barkeep49]

dola,

That said, if it is an issue or with the game being more day intense, I would be willing to step aside for someone who can be around all day up to deadline, or for a new player who hasn't played.
Some daytime availability is needed. That schedule, as with Pass's, shouldn't be a problem at all.

[path12]

right, first lesson crew. Don't trust a word Blade says;)


However, you should always trust path. :)

[st.cronin]

Werewolf advice for newbies

1. Lathum is a wolf
2. Blade is lying
3. Schmidty is the worst werewolf player ever
4. Saldana's analysis is wrong

[Lathum]

and St. Cronin is a wanker

[Poli]

Looks like I missed out, but I'd like to note I AM FOFC's Survivor champion.

[Barkeep49]

Looks like I missed out, but I'd like to note I AM FOFC's Survivor champion.
Ardent if you want in I'll expand the field to 22.

[Poli]

I'm game.

[Barkeep49]

Ok you're in Ardent. Now seeking alternates, as I'm guessing we'll have someone drop out at some point, since well that's life.

[Poli]

I'm definitely hoping to be life-free in the coming days. :)

[Barkeep49]

I'm definitely hoping to be life-free in the coming days. :)
Yeah you deserve that.

Check the second post for some rules and guidelines. It should be a welcome relief for those of you who are used to my typical tomes.

[ImTheCrew]

thanks guys cant wait to play sounds like a ton of fun

[Raiders Army]

6. You are expected to follow the "honor system" and not cheat. You may only, for instance only read the main thread and your tribal thread. No peeking at a thread you are not allowed into, no "insider information" on challenges, and that sort of thing. This is just a game and should be fun, therefore, please don't lower yourself to cheating!

Man, if people switch tribes that's gonna be hell to catch up on the other thread.

[Lathum]

Btw, if I see the name on an opposing tribe member in my tribes thread that player will never play in one of my games and be my day one vote from now on

[Poli]

This is where Schmidty comes in and says

HULK SMASH OTHER TRIBE MEMBERS IN MY THREAD!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Put me down as an alternate, please.

[st.cronin]

Barkeep, as moderator is there any way for you to lock certain members out of threads? It might be worth looking into. I can see somebody making an innocent mistake, and bedlam resulting.

[Poli]

I'm against it. Let anarchy ensue.

[Blade6119]

Barkeep, as moderator is there any way for you to lock certain members out of threads? It might be worth looking into. I can see somebody making an innocent mistake, and bedlam resulting.

I dont remember this being a power when i was a mod, so i doubt it has changed.

[Poli]

When you was a mod? You're not one anymore?

[Alan T]

As I have returned to my rightful #3 signup spot, I feel pretty good about this game.

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep, as moderator is there any way for you to lock certain members out of threads? It might be worth looking into. I can see somebody making an innocent mistake, and bedlam resulting.
No such luck. I really think we'll do fine on this account. Everyone is a little nervous, but I really do trust the people around here to do what is right. Considering how many games we've played, there are remarkably few problems with people accidentally not following rules, let alone intentionally.

[st.cronin]

I'm surprised you can't make a thread private. What about creating a private sub-forum?

I mean, it's not a big deal. I'm just thinking out loud.

[SnDvls]

Put me as an alt. too

[Blade6119]

When you was a mod? You're not one anymore?

Its a long story full of behind the scenes backstabbing that would make any WWer proud, but no im not anymore. If you want to hear the story, ill see you on AIM soon. If you want to see what FOFC was told the story was, you can find it in a thread skydog started a ways back over in off-topic.

[Blade6119]

I'm surprised you can't make a thread private. What about creating a private sub-forum?

I mean, it's not a big deal. I'm just thinking out loud.

Only admins can do that, and the only 2 admins are skydog and ryanS. Its possible, as the mods(not barkeep) have their own private sub-forum no one else can see. But only skydog or ryanS can create them, and i dont know if they would go through the trouble.

[Poli]

I'm headed off to work shortly, but you can tell me sometime over the weekend or tonight. I'll be on AIM most of it.

[LoneStarGirl]

I didn't know you ever were a mod Blade, must have been before my time

[Barkeep49]

There are real mods and then there are forum mods. Frogman and myself are forum mods, where as people like wade and Quik are real mods.

And no I can't create sub forums, or permissions or anything fun like that.

[Lorena]

I'm on a very unstable computer and have to pull out.

[Barkeep49]

Dodger I'm really sorry to hear that.

[KWhit]

Looking forward to this game.

[ImTheCrew]

any idea on when it will begin?

[KWhit]

Day 1 starts Monday.

[KWhit]

Dola -

So Barkeep will probably send out PMs with your role on Sunday night (or Monday morning), I'm guessing.

[Barkeep49]

Roles are going to go out tomorrow and tribal threads will open then. There will be a short individual task that people can do anytime between Night 0 and the end of Day 1. Day 1, with its reward challenge, will start Monday morning.

[KWhit]

Cool beans.

[Poli]

I'll be interested in seeing how the tribes are broken up.

I may even give up my title. :)

[ntndeacon]

excellent. That will give me something to do after the game.

[Raiders Army]

Nice stuff. Is there any possibility that you'll sticky the Survivor threads together for the duration of the game? Not that we get a lot of other threads in here, but it'd be nice to keep them all together.

[Barkeep49]

Nice stuff. Is there any possibility that you'll sticky the Survivor threads together for the duration of the game? Not that we get a lot of other threads in here, but it'd be nice to keep them all together.
I don't think it'll become a problem, but if it does I will do so. It might be a good idea to sticky the common thread. We'll see. I'd ask that discussion move over to the game threads at this point.