Too many fumbles!

[ShaneTheMaster]

Am I the only one that thinks the game is having WAY too many fumbles? In one of my multiplayer leagues, the game had 8 total fumbles and 3 interceptions. In the same week, another game between 2 other teams had 8 total fumbles, as well. A bit much, huh? :mad:

I thought maybe I just had a bunch of players who had bad fumble ratings, but this seems to be a game engine problem, as I have noticed the problem in my single player leagues.

Anyone else think one way or the other?

[Eaglesfan27]

I think the fumbles could be tweaked down a bit, but most of my games I'm only seeing 2 or 3 fumbles between both teams. However, occasionally it does get out of control.

[Synovia]

I've got 90 rated cornerbacks, and none of them has ever had more than 6 picks in a year. Thats a problem too.

[MIJB#19]

I've got 90 rated cornerbacks, and none of them has ever had more than 6 picks in a year. Thats a problem too.Maybe the opposing quarterbacks saw the 90's rated cornerbacks and thought: heck, I may be better of scrambling or doing a screen pass, but no way I'll risk getting intercepted.

[Synovia]

Maybe the opposing quarterbacks saw the 90's rated cornerbacks and thought: heck, I may be better of scrambling or doing a screen pass, but no way I'll risk getting intercepted.

MIJB, I'm seeing too many seasons where no one has more than 5 or 6, and almost every year, IRL, a couple CBs have 10+

[MIJB#19]

MIJB, I'm seeing too many seasons where no one has more than 5 or 6, and almost every year, IRL, a couple CBs have 10+Let's check the facts of the NFL. Here are the top individual interceptions figures:
2006 - 10, 10, 8, 8
2005 - 10, 10, 9, 8, 8, 7
2004 - 9, 8
2003 - 9, 9, 8, 7, 7, 7
2002 - 8, 8, 7, 7
2001 - 10, 10, 9, 9, 8, 8, 7, 7

I see six 10's in six seasons, zero above 10.

Edit: I listed only those figures above 6

[Synovia]

Thats about 30 more 6+s than I've seen in my last 6 years of career.
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I had two corners who were 90+/90+s, both with maxed INT, and my safties were in the 60s with max INT, and my opponents averaged 40+ pass attempts per game (my offense was ridiculous) and they had 14 pick's between the 4 of them. Thats absurdly low.


<br><br>also, is there any way to keep formatting in this forum without manually putting in line breaks and the like?

[MIJB#19]

Thats about 30 more 6+s than I've seen in my last 6 years of career.
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I had two corners who were 90+/90+s, both with maxed INT, and my safties were in the 60s with max INT, and my opponents averaged 40+ pass attempts per game (my offense was ridiculous) and they had 14 pick's between the 4 of them. Thats absurdly low.


<br><br>also, is there any way to keep formatting in this forum without manually putting in line breaks and the like?
The league average is roughly 1 interceptions per team per game. Even if your defense would have double the league average (about 1 or 2 teams per season get beyond 1.5 per game, only 1 near 2 per game), you'd be spreading 32 interceptions over your players (2 CBs, 2 S's, 3 or 4 LBs, backup CBs/Ss). LBs usually acount for 1/8th of the interceptions, leaves 24 Ints to devide over your star CBs, safeties and backups (who will likely see more action with 40+ pass attempts).

I'm not denying your stats, maybe you are on to something. How many seasons of data do you have? What are the top interceptions figures of your first/last six seasons?

[Synovia]

MIJB, I'll look when I get home.


This year, Baltimore had 28 picks, chicago had 24, and 5 or 6 teams had between 20 and 24. They all faced between 30 and 36 pass attempts per game. <br><br>

My team's corners were better than both of those teams corners, and they faced roughly 25% more pass attempts, and could only pick up 9 picks between them? Thats not right. Teams were constantly playing us from behind, and constantly throwing. <br><br>I think I defensive end with 3 picks though, and that really shouldnt happen. Maybe thats a sign that I was seeing more screens and passes to backs because of my corners...I'll have to look at the numbers.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've seen league leaders with 9 or 10 interceptions quite a bit in my short FOF dynasty and moreso in my test leagues. I don't think that is a significant problem.

Usually, the guy with a high interception number is a "lower rated" player than the best corner on the team which makes me think that QB's avoiding the best CB may be a factor in the equation.

[ShaneTheMaster]

I dont think there is a problem with the engine as far as interceptions go - I just think the QB pool is not as talented - which I think is fine. But I do think there is a problem with the engine as far as fumbles, and fumble recovery returns.

[Synovia]

Just checked my career through 2020. I checked the top 15 players as far as total INTS went. 1 9 INT season, 3 8 INT seasons, and probably a half dozen 7 INT seasons. Seems low to me.

[beargrowlz]

Just purely anecdotal here, but I have found that when i call my own plays there's way more fumbles than in a game that's simmed. *shrug*

YMMV.

[Cringer]

I do feel fumbles could be turned down a notch or so.

As for INT's, they are perhaps a bit on the low side, but I don't think by much so I wouldn't make a call for it to be cranked up.

In ten years of my SP league...

21 players who have had 7+ INT seasons. Four of those are 9's, and two are 10's. The two 10's are the league record. Going off of the numbers MIJB posted I would go back to what I said before, just a touch below average perhaps.

[DolphinFan1]

I don't feel there is a problem with fumbles or interception. Just fumbles that are returned for TD by the fumbling team. Happens too often.