Consolidated FOF2K7 Vista Issues Threads [Archive]

fofgamer

02-02-2007, 08:41 PM

For the game itself, try the demo. If the demo runs fine, the game itself
will. However, the electronic licensing may well not run on Vista. You
should ask ViaTech or watch their FAQ for more information.

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Ethan Potter
Customer Service
Solecismic Software

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Ward" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:25 PM
Subject: Windows Vista

> Hello Solecismic,
>
> I was just wondering how FOF2K7 will work with Windows Vista. Will a
> patch of some kind be necessary or should the transition be pretty
> much seamless. I know this sounds silly but I am waiting to upgrade
> my operating system until I hear back from you so I don't screw up my
> FOF playing experience!
>
> Thanks again for your great game and all the support.
>
> Regards,
>
> Russ Ward
>

Iceman99

02-05-2007, 07:57 PM

Anyone able to get it to run there?

SegRat

02-05-2007, 10:07 PM

http://www.fof-usfl.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1049

Daimyo

02-05-2007, 10:53 PM

Yeah... there is a thread here somewhere you can search for. Basically you have to run it as admin the first time and then change some folder permissions.

azjoe_02

02-10-2007, 06:09 PM

Yeah... there is a thread here somewhere you can search for. Basically you have to run it as admin the first time and then change some folder permissions.

I just got a new (Vista loaded) laptop and cannot get FOF2k7 to open up. It appears to install correctly. But when I try to open it, it does nothing. I did a search for the thread you mentioned but can't find anything. I am "admin" on the machine, but I don't know what folder permissions to change...

Any help is MUCH appreciated.

:(

azjoe_02

02-10-2007, 06:10 PM

Dola

Forgot to mention that the Demo installed and opened up just fine...

gstelmack

02-10-2007, 06:24 PM

Daimyo

02-10-2007, 06:42 PM

I just got a new (Vista loaded) laptop and cannot get FOF2k7 to open up. It appears to install correctly. But when I try to open it, it does nothing. I did a search for the thread you mentioned but can't find anything. I am "admin" on the machine, but I don't know what folder permissions to change...

Any help is MUCH appreciated.

:(

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=56388&highlight=vista

Basically you need to navigate to the FOF2007 folder under program files (default location is C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007). Find the FrFoot.exe application, right-click on it, and select "Run as Administrator". It should load up fine. You only need to do this the first time you launch it... the regular shortcut should work fine after that.

The other thing I had to do to save games is change the permissions on the FOF2007 folder. Right click on it and select properties. Then click the security tab. Click the Edit button. Under "group or user names:" select "Users" and then under "Permissions for users" check the box under allow for modify (write will automatically get checked when you do that). Click OK to close all the windows. You have to do this because Jim does not confirm to modern (since Windows 98?) standards for windows programming...

Coder

02-10-2007, 06:44 PM

The needing to put files in the Program Files area is a real PITA. As a commish, my e-mail program can't save there without me granting IT special permissions. The data needs to get out of Program Files ASAP.

I read a post by you some time ago when you mentioned this. Are you basically saying that Vista won't allow applications to save data in any other place than under "My Documents"? This will mess up quite a few text-sims I think..

For me personally I always prefer to have data in a subdirectory of the main app.. I've done this for many years even if I've had the opportunity to save under MyDocuments.

azjoe_02

02-10-2007, 06:45 PM

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=56388&highlight=vista

Basically you need to navigate to the FOF2007 folder under program files (default location is C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007). Find the FrFoot.exe application, right-click on it, and select "Run as Administrator". It should load up fine. You only need to do this the first time you launch it... the regular shortcut should work fine after that.

The other thing I had to do to save games is change the permissions on the FOF2007 folder. Right click on it and select properties. Then click the security tab. Click the Edit button. Under "group or user names:" select "Users" and then under "Permissions for users" check the box under allow for modify (write will automatically get checked when you do that). Click OK to close all the windows. You have to do this because Jim does not confirm to modern (since Windows 98?) standards for windows programming...

Thanks! Done, and works just fine! :D

gstelmack

02-11-2007, 09:09 AM

I read a post by you some time ago when you mentioned this. Are you basically saying that Vista won't allow applications to save data in any other place than under "My Documents"? This will mess up quite a few text-sims I think..

For me personally I always prefer to have data in a subdirectory of the main app.. I've done this for many years even if I've had the opportunity to save under MyDocuments.

The key issue is that since WindowsXP (2000?), non-Administrators have not been able to write to the Program Files directory. The change in Vista is that almost nothing runs as Administrator, even if you are an Administrator on your box. This is to help keep viruses, etc from infecting your programs.

Microsoft has been recommending since at least the XP days (2002 or so) that you not save data in Program Files. Instead use the ShGetFolder API and pick an appropriate place (My Documents for user-specific data, AppData for application-specific data). This means that apps like FOF, BBCF, and the like would not run with Limited Users on XP unless they got special permissions. Now with Vista, EVERYONE is basically a Limited User, so everyone is having fits with them.

It's pretty straightforward to fix. You just call ShGetFolder with the correct path you want, and prepend that to all your file save calls. And if you really want to support Win98 or earlier, you can redistribute the DLL (they have one up at Microsoft) and include the signature in your apps.

If any of the developers are reading this and need help, let me know. I've retrofitted a few apps (including with Win98 support) before, and I can recreate the necessary code fairly easily if you need it.

And yes, Extractor is broken because it writes to Program Files. I'll be updating it to write to My Documents soon (if I didn't in one of my last updates, I need to double-check as I've been intending to).

It should also be noted that there are some cool manifest things you can do with Games under Vista to have them fit the new gaming stuff they have in there. I have not messed with this yet, however.

FOFGirl

02-21-2007, 03:33 PM

Has anyone attempted (maybe successfully run) FOF2k7 with Windows Vista? I got the demo to install and it will pop up on on the screen, but the full, licensed version does absoluately NADA! Last I head the eLicensing with Vista doesn't work...anything new in that area? I recently had to purchase a new computer due to my other one practically dying on me and just what I was afraid of has happened! Does anyone know anything about this? Is there a patch or driver that I can download to help this run properly? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Thanks in advance!
Heather
FOFGirl

Northwood_DK

02-21-2007, 03:36 PM

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=56755

Check this first. That might give you the answer.

Welcome to FOFC

gstelmack

02-21-2007, 03:43 PM

More specifically, see post #7 in that thread.

FOFGirl

02-23-2007, 12:08 AM

Worked PERFECTLY! I must have missed the other thread, but thank you SO much for pointing it out. I am now a lot less frustrated with my new computer and Vista! :)

gstelmack

02-23-2007, 09:06 AM

I am now a lot less frustrated with my new computer and Vista! :)

You shouldn't have been frustrated with Vista. E-License shouldn't need the "Run As Administrator" bit for that first launch (or if they do, they need to be shipping a manifest that says so so it will ask instead of making you right-click the icon), and FOF shouldn't be writing to its own folder, forcing you to change permissions. The E-License thing is new to Vista (although Microsoft has talked about it for a while), while the "Don't Write to Program Files" goes back 5 years or so to XP.

Emiliano

02-23-2007, 09:08 AM

Welcome to FOFC!

gstelmack

02-23-2007, 08:24 PM

Solecismic

02-23-2007, 11:56 PM

I don't want people to get the impression that Microsoft actually issues comprehensive statements or bulletins of any sort for those who aren't specifically looking for them. This is all news to me, and I do stay fairly current. But now that I'm in the real world, I don't have the luxury of going to conferences any more, getting the proverbial street buzz.

I rely very heavily on the documentation Microsoft puts out with its development environment. I read the notes associated with documentation for any function I use. There's absolutely nothing about this connected with the documentation, as of the last release of Visual C++.

Frankly, I'm surprised they'd make such a change without significant warning, over the course of years. This may have a small impact on my work, but it will blow other people with much larger legacy code completely out of the water. Essential programs with pieces written and understood only by people long since gone from the scene.

For now, I'm going to investigate the run-as-adminstrator options. At least for the life of the current products, it makes sense to provide these instructions in the FAQ rather than make everyone else pre-Vista adjust with a patch. It's the most seamless change, especially when you realize that some people will be installing Vista on older machines.

And if they simply eliminated WinHelp, no idea why they would move in that direction. It's an interface that works and is seamlessly integrated with Visual C++. Yes, it's nice to have the most modern help method, but learning a new product and converting a lot of working code takes time and would come at the expense of more interesting new features.

gstelmack

02-25-2007, 08:36 AM

First thing you need to do then is subscribe to the MSDN flash newsletter so you can keep up with news from Microsoft for developers:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/flash/default.aspx

Here is a blog and some other links talking about UAC and its implications:

http://blogs.msdn.com/uac/
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905108.aspx
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=255622

The Windows logo requirements are handy, too. While Windows Logo is a marketing thing, the requirements tend to explain what you need to do technically to support their OSes:

http://microsoft.mrmpslc.com/InnovateOnWindowsVista/getstartedcert.aspx

Check the Quick Links on the right.

Here are some other useful links. The Application Compatibility Toolkit is a great help:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905078.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480150.aspx

gstelmack

02-25-2007, 08:44 AM

Ugh, can't believe I forgot the second-most important link (next to the MSDN flash link)! The Games for Windows Technical Requirements!

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb173456.aspx

This is a relatively new program, but the requirements in there explain other Vista bits, such as how to get into the Game Explorer. That's probably the best summary of everything you need to be aware of.

gstelmack

03-09-2007, 09:48 AM

One more small issue: Vista does not include a .hlp viewer, so you can't read the help file. They are working on one, but recommend developers stop using the format (which is about 3 generations of help technology out-of-date).

Microsoft has released the WinHelp viewer for Vista:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6ebcfad9-d3f5-4365-8070-334cd175d4bb&DisplayLang=en

MizzouRah

03-20-2007, 10:02 AM

I upgraded to Vista and FOF 2007 works just fine. For the help file, like gstelmack said, there is a patch to download from Microsoft which fixes that issue. Other than that, I didn't have to do a thing.

Once you try to open up the help file, it will pop up a link that gets you right to the patch.

Leonidas

04-19-2007, 10:27 AM

Just got my new laptop today and it's my first experience with Vista. I have tried installing 2K7 three times and every time when I click on it the hourglass comes up for a second like something is going to run, then it stops and the program never comes on. I checked task manager and it's not coming on in there either. Is there some Vista setting I am oblivious too at play here or is there something else. I bought this laptop just to take with me on my deployment so I could still play MP.

Leonidas

04-19-2007, 10:51 AM

I'm reading through other discussions and the most common approach seems to be the run as administrator thing. Just one problem with that, it's not coming up for me as an option when I right click on the application. Brand new machine, no printers installed. No other massive applications taking away memory. The only firewalls involved are windows and my wireless router.

Leonidas

04-19-2007, 10:56 AM

OK, I figured it out. Never mind.

ShaneTheMaster

04-19-2007, 11:00 AM

OK, I figured it out. Never mind.

Glad I can help. :)

Doug5984

04-19-2007, 08:59 PM

I just got a new laptop with Vista, and it's not loading FOF when I click on it. Does anyone else use FOF & Vista together, anyone having any problems with it?

Doug5984

04-19-2007, 09:04 PM

Dola- Got it working, I had to go into program files and run it as the administator, and allow it and now it is working. Going to take a while to get used to vista...and figure out all the little things about it.

Leonidas

04-20-2007, 03:11 PM

Glad I can help. :)I had no idea how much asspain Vista would cause me. I'd say it took me about 4 hours to get the game working properly for MP. The fixes were kinda simple, but you had to figure them out. Who knew an OS would require you to grant permission to yourself to manipulate files. I'm really dreading the day the government switches over to Vista. We'll be swimming in trouble tickets.

gstelmack

04-20-2007, 03:27 PM

I'd say it took me about 4 hours to get the game working properly for MP. The fixes were kinda simple, but you had to figure them out. Who knew an OS would require you to grant permission to yourself to manipulate files. I'm really dreading the day the government switches over to Vista. We'll be swimming in trouble tickets.

You haven't been paying attention here, have you? There is a thread here with instructions on how to set up for Vista, and another one with me ranting and raving about apps writing to the Program Files directory instead of the Documents or Settings areas.

As for granting yourself permission to manipulate files, welcome to the reaction to the beating Microsoft keeps taking over security (when their main problem is popularity, since every other OS has similar holes that no one wants to take advantage of). One of Microsoft's reactions for XP was to push apps to separate their code and data (Limited Users on XP had the same issue), and on Vista they cranked up the heat.

Leonidas

04-20-2007, 04:05 PM

You haven't been paying attention here, have you? There is a thread here with instructions on how to set up for Vista, and another one with me ranting and raving about apps writing to the Program Files directory instead of the Documents or Settings areas.

As for granting yourself permission to manipulate files, welcome to the reaction to the beating Microsoft keeps taking over security (when their main problem is popularity, since every other OS has similar holes that no one wants to take advantage of). One of Microsoft's reactions for XP was to push apps to separate their code and data (Limited Users on XP had the same issue), and on Vista they cranked up the heat.
I kinda come and go around here. It was bits and clues from other threads that eventually led to me figuring all this out, but not one single thread that got it all right.

As for the security and OS issue, I've seen this at work too. The security folks can reach a point where their measures to secure a network are more intrusive than the threat. I believe Vista has reached that point. I also have it at work. Nothing more annoying in the whole wide world to see 4 hours worth of work killed because of security issues. I'm sorry but there is no virus/trojan ever in my entire 16-year career I have picked up that caused more harm to my job than that issue from our security-Nazis last week.

MizzouRah

04-20-2007, 11:21 PM

Sometimes I feel like going back to Windows XP as I feel like XP is much faster and easier to do certain things. I will admit thought, I have the clock, calendar, and the weather on my side bar and I love it. It's to the point I turn my pc on in the morning to see what the day is going to be like and what the weather is currently outside.

I know there's weather bug and what not, but this doesn't hog up resources or install anything on your pc.

digamma

04-22-2007, 04:18 PM

I'm getting a pretty consistent crash in SP games run on my lap top with Vista. It happens when I open the "Execute Trades" menu. I get the "Microsoft has detected a problem" followed by "Front Office Football 2007 has stopped running."

Anyone else seen this?

digamma

04-22-2007, 04:26 PM

Dola...

This seems to only be happening if I try to open the execute trade screen in the same session after starting a new game. If I start a saved game, then it seems to work fine.

Nevermind. Just got the crash again.

Doug5984

04-22-2007, 11:35 PM

Another Vista problem, not so much FOF per se but related- I am trying to extract files from my save folder straight to the leagues folder, and Vista is not allowing me to do this. I know there is probably some silly little setting I have to change to allow access to do this, but I can't seem to figure it out. I have my FOF folder set to allow all changes by "Users"...Any ideas? I can get it to work by extracting to the desktop and cutting and pasting but that takes time.

gstelmack

04-23-2007, 08:11 AM

Not sure. I set the FOF Folder up correctly, and WinZip just extracts everything fine. Is it maybe set up that the FOF folder allows users to write, but the leagues, etc don't?

cocacolakid

04-25-2007, 04:20 PM

I was a loyal FOF2004 junkie and purchased and downloaded FOF2007. It opened fine and I was able to register. Then when I hit 'start' it disappeared and will not open. I've uninstalled FOF2004. I've uninstalled and re-installed FOF2007 3 times. I've tried repairing FOF2007, and I still cannot get the program to open, not even to get the initial welcome screen again.

I'm on XP, SP2. Everything else is running great. FOF2004 was running great earlier today before I uninstalled it for this. Any ideas?

Eaglesfan27

04-25-2007, 04:37 PM

There are a few programs that seem to cause conflicts with FOF 2007, rarely-occasionally. I'd try to reboot after you've installed it, if it won't open.

ShaneTheMaster

04-25-2007, 04:37 PM

Something is holding it up.. if the process is still running, open task manager, and unload processes that could hold it up, like virus programs, etc. until it opens.

cocacolakid

04-25-2007, 04:53 PM

Something is holding it up.. if the process is still running, open task manager, and unload processes that could hold it up, like virus programs, etc. until it opens.

I've tried that. I've shut down my AV. I've shut down basically all other user programs. I've tried every tip on the Solecismic FAQ page. No luck. I'm going to need a refund if this isn't going to work.:confused:

yabanci

04-25-2007, 07:03 PM

cocacolakid

04-25-2007, 07:07 PM

It sounds like a crazy idea, but you might try sending an email to support at solecismic.com.

Thanks. I have done that and they are just offering the same list of ideas that have been posted here or on the solecismic FAQ page. I've tried them all. I have no idea why it won't work. I've never had a program not work like this and I'd like to think I'm pretty computer literate. I was so looking forward to the new version of FOF.

azjoe_02

04-25-2007, 07:18 PM

Are you running XP or Vista?

If Vista I would try this thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=56755)

azjoe_02

04-25-2007, 07:20 PM

My bad, I just noticed that you said XP...

Yellow5

04-26-2007, 03:14 AM

Try this:

http://yellow5.org/archives/elicpatch.zip

If that doesn't work, contact the elicense folks.

cocacolakid

04-26-2007, 08:30 PM

Try this:

http://yellow5.org/archives/elicpatch.zip

If that doesn't work, contact the elicense folks.

That didn't work. The elicense guys have been very nice but nobody has been able to figure this out yet.

yabanci

04-26-2007, 09:39 PM

Assuming you haven't done so already, you might try a clean boot (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353) to see if the game will run. If it does, you can troubleshoot from there.

(I personally would use the manual method, and where it says in step 7 to disable all services, I would disable all except the LicCtrl Service)

Skolleck

04-28-2007, 10:28 AM

I've tried that. I've shut down my AV. I've shut down basically all other user programs. I've tried every tip on the Solecismic FAQ page. No luck. I'm going to need a refund if this isn't going to work.:confused:

Disable your firewall, you may have a software or hardware firewall.

If you have a hardware firewall disabling all the services will not help, you will have to disable the hardware firewall from the firewall/router setup page.

If that does not work;
Make sure the Microsoft services are still running and disable all the other services and startup programs other than the eLicense service.

Can can try to enter into safe mode with network support and try to start the eLicense and try the game.

If you have a router and can plug directly into your broadband modem, try that and see if it works.

If you have two systems, try it with the second system.

IF all that does not work, send me a PM and I will see if I can provide any other tips.

Thanks,
Scott Kolleck
AIM:swkolleck

fofgamer

05-09-2007, 02:23 AM

I downloaded the new version of FOF (version e) and now when I export my file it is not in the "export" folder. I am running Vista on my computer and this wasn't a problem with version d. Has anyone else had this same problem? It is ruining my MP teams because I can't get any files in!

JeeberD

06-22-2007, 05:25 PM

The other thing I had to do to save games is change the permissions on the FOF2007 folder. Right click on it and select properties. Then click the security tab. Click the Edit button. Under "group or user names:" select "Users" and then under "Permissions for users" check the box under allow for modify (write will automatically get checked when you do that). Click OK to close all the windows.

Goddamn...you have NO idea how much I love you right now.

Leonidas

06-25-2007, 02:17 PM

I'm almost at the point of being heartbroken. I got this game working on my Vista laptop just fine with the batch files, then out of nowhere yesterday it stopped loading properly. I rebooted the machine and it came up fine. Today I have rebooted twice and the game simply will not come up. The DOS window still runs through the routine on the batch file like everything is OK, but after that nothing. I went direct to the game file and tried right clicking and running as admin in Windows XP mode and it still won't come up. To the best of my knowledge absolutely nothing has changed other than the latest version of PC Cillen was loaded. I'm on a 6 month deployment and got this laptop just to play MP. If I can't get this fixed this week I suspect I'll have to quit the game outright.

Synovia

06-25-2007, 04:11 PM

"nothing has changed other than the latest version of PC Cillen was loaded." I'd suspect thats the problem. Virus scanners are notorious for breaking things.

Kodos

09-07-2007, 06:52 PM

Kodos

09-07-2007, 07:06 PM

Okay, figured out the problem. I was looking running it from Programs under Users, instead of from the C drive.

Idiot. :rolleyes:

Raiders Army

09-07-2007, 08:56 PM

You know, I have never had a problem getting FOF 2007 to run on Vista. Didn't even run it as an Administrator or anything. *shrug*

marcmoustache

09-29-2007, 03:53 AM

One player in my MP league has mysteriously had a problem come up where the scouting report screens:

When I look at the scouting report I'm not able to see my opponent's players (I can see their stats on the right side of the box).

Also, when I look at the game preview on the simulate games screen, my opponent's roster isn't taken into account & so I'm shown as having an advantage in every area (unlikely given that I'm playing the Niners this week!).

The other problem with this is that as none of my opponents info is showing up, when I hit 'recommend' in the offensive & defensive gameplan screens it makes no changes & therefore doesn't take into account my opponents strengths & weaknesses, (not that I rely completely on this anyway, but I like to use it as a guide) so now I'm stuck in my 'base' gameplan.

It has also happened to a guy in the NAFL:

just wanted to post this for anyone who is going to upgrade to vista. Ever since I switched over, my "scout opponent" on the simulation window doesn't work correctly. It still shows the guys who were starters at the time I made the switch, even if they've been traded away or benched. When players have retired, it just doesn't show anybody as the starter.

Of course, this isn't really a prohibitive problem in any way. It just makes gameplanning a pain in the ass, because I have to go to rosters and run through all the players stats to see who the real starters are, which is a pain in the backside. But I also wonder if this would screw with the computer-generated suggestions for those who let the computer gameplan.

Any ideas?

gstelmack

09-29-2007, 11:28 AM

I just checked on my WOOF league, and the only teams that I don't see player data for are those who have not set any starters yet (we're about to hit preseason week 1). I see player data for all the others.

I am running Vista.

Have they changed the access permissions to the FOF folder so that the game can write to it? Vista won't let you write to any folder under Program Files unless you explicitly allow it, even for Administrators. You have to grant the game Administrator privileges and allow that program folder to be written to.

Raiders Army

09-29-2007, 02:53 PM

I have had zero problems with Vista. I think I gave myself Admin privileges though.

Queue

10-04-2007, 11:09 AM

Hey guys, long time fan of this game and this website. It has been very helpful. Anyways, I got a new computer, and it came installed with Vista. Of course I bought the most recent version of FOF. OK, I like to run my own league and control all the teams. Before Vista, I simply exported the stage files from the participant, went to the export folder, cut and paste the stage file and placed in the import folder, then as the commissioner imported the stage files. Very simple. Well now when I try to do the final step (importing the stage files as the commissioner) the game tells me there are no import files in proper state and stage to import. I think it has something to do with Vista. It is very frustrating. I am sure this question has been covered before. Does anyone out there have any idea what I can do? Thank you.

Queue

10-04-2007, 04:23 PM

never mind, fixed the problem

nfg22

10-09-2007, 03:29 PM

I read about ten threads adressing the issue on how to run FOF2007 on vista and none that I found adress my problem. I try to run FOF2007 and I dont have the option when I right click to run as admin. The only option is to open it, and when I do this, it does not work at all...Im going to try uninstalling and reinstalling but any advice would be awesome. Thanks!!

Daimyo

10-09-2007, 09:54 PM

nfg22

10-11-2007, 08:32 AM

If I remember correctly uou actually have to navigate to to the program files\solecismic\fof 2007 folder to run it as admin the first time and not just from the start menu. I know a lot of us run it on Vista. Might try emailing support at solecismic.

Thanks for the advice. I got it figured out, I had to go to the control panel and look at the programs...it was weird. Thanks for the advice though.

JetsIn06

10-12-2007, 12:43 PM

Is anyone else having trouble using batch files in Vista? Is there something different that you have to do compared to using them in XP? None of my files are getting copied over.

Kodos

10-12-2007, 04:26 PM

No problems for me. I will post mine later.

gstelmack

10-12-2007, 05:32 PM

Mine are fine, but I've also given myself write permissions to the FOF2k7 installation directory.

Remangiii

11-04-2007, 05:48 PM

When I try and load the game, nothing happens. I am running Vista on a new system; I haven't purchased the game yet.

JetsIn06

11-04-2007, 06:27 PM

Right click on the icon.

Run as administrator.

:)

joshroberts1987

11-05-2007, 10:57 AM

Hi there,

I've just bought a laptop running Windows Vista and got my online league up and running but when I try to export a file it says its been successful yet theres nothig in the export folder... I didnt have this problem with XP... I think it has something to do with the fact that Vista asks me to constantly approve things as administrator. Anyone have a solution to this?

Cheers

gstelmack

11-05-2007, 11:00 AM

The export folder is ending up in the "Compatibility Files" link. Browse to the FOF folder, then check the "Compatibility Files" button at the top and see if it is in there.

It's been a while since I've done it, but there is a way to give yourself write permissions on the FOF folder so that these things can be created and written to by FOF.

joshroberts1987

11-05-2007, 11:06 AM

Cheers for that, found it in the compatability bit... can you remeber how to give the write permission?

cjnst2

11-05-2007, 12:14 PM

Just installed the FoF 2007 on my Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit.

I've searched previous threads and have the game loading up now however I'm having problems. Changed it to allow administrative privaledges.

When I click to load a saved game or create a new game I get the following error message.....

Data File Creation Error
"Unable to create data files. Please restart system and/or reinstall game"

I've restarted my system and reinstalled the game to no success.

Any suggestions?

gstelmack

11-05-2007, 01:02 PM

You want to give yourself write permissions to the FOF folder. I have to look up how I did that again...

gstelmack

11-05-2007, 01:02 PM

It involves the "Security" tab when you right-click the folder. I have to walk through it again, it's been a while since I did it.

Pacersfan46

11-05-2007, 08:35 PM

I just installed the game as is, and haven't had an issue at all.

I have no idea.

-- Steve --

gstelmack

11-05-2007, 09:11 PM

Do you have UAC turned off? That disables most of this stuff I believe (along with opening all the security holes that this stuff tries to prevent).

JetsIn06

11-06-2007, 10:37 AM

SkyDog asked me to post this over here because a lot of people who are using Vista are having trouble getting their exports in. If you go to upload your file and nothing is showing up in your export folder, try this. :)

Go to your FOF2007 directory. Go to your export folder. The gameplan file won't show up unless you click the "compatiblity files" on the toolbar.

Then, it should show up. Drag that file to your desktop.

When you go to your leagues site to upload and click "browse", the file will be on your desktop.

The problem, I believe, is that when you are browsing your folders (such as when you are uploading at your league site) you can't click on compatibility files.

Hope this helps for anyone having problems.

Pacersfan46

11-25-2007, 02:37 PM

But I just got into a multiplayer league for the first time, and where the hell are the save files?

I'm on Vista, and for OOTP it moved them to My Documents, but there's no folder there for this. I've looked in the Program Files/Solecismic/FOF07, but the saved game files aren't there ......

Anyone? lol @ me

-- Steve --

Ben E Lou

11-25-2007, 02:59 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Ben E Lou

11-25-2007, 03:00 PM

(Oh, and I have no idea where they are in Vista. There have been a number of little issues here and there reported. I'd expect one of the Vista users to help you out soon, but I thought I'd meet your expectation first.)

Pacersfan46

11-25-2007, 03:02 PM

Thanks for the support. :)

I'm such a soothsayer.

-- Steve --

Pacersfan46

11-25-2007, 03:17 PM

Dola!

Maybe until a Vista user comes along, could someone tell me the exact name of the saved game folder? I could search it that way, but I don't know what the name of the folder is.

-- Steve --

highfiveoh

11-25-2007, 03:25 PM

Ben E Lou

11-25-2007, 03:30 PM

Bump. I have consolidated all of the Vista issues threads into one. Hope this is helpful.

Ben E Lou

11-25-2007, 03:33 PM

I suspect that the same questions are coming up over and over. If a Vista user would take the time to go through this thread and come up with a few bullet points to make an FAQ, I'll sticky it, and I'm sure it would be appreciated by those with issues in the future.

Pacersfan46

11-25-2007, 04:30 PM

I don't understand why having Vista would change where the folders are. You're telling me you don't have folders named export, import, leagues, Pictures, Sounds, and universe in your main FOF directory?

I do, but the only one with anything in them is Sounds, and Pictures. That's it.

-- Steve --

gstelmack

11-26-2007, 08:42 AM

Check for a "Compatibility Files" button in the toolbar of the folder window.

Darren29

07-14-2008, 03:24 PM

One player in my MP league has mysteriously had a problem come up where the scouting report screens:

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">When I look at the scouting report I'm not able to see my opponent's players (I can see their stats on the right side of the box).

Also, when I look at the game preview on the simulate games screen, my opponent's roster isn't taken into account & so I'm shown as having an advantage in every area (unlikely given that I'm playing the Niners this week!).

The other problem with this is that as none of my opponents info is showing up, when I hit 'recommend' in the offensive & defensive gameplan screens it makes no changes & therefore doesn't take into account my opponents strengths & weaknesses, (not that I rely completely on this anyway, but I like to use it as a guide) so now I'm stuck in my 'base' gameplan.

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

It has also happened to a guy in the NAFL:

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">just wanted to post this for anyone who is going to upgrade to vista. Ever since I switched over, my "scout opponent" on the simulation window doesn't work correctly. It still shows the guys who were starters at the time I made the switch, even if they've been traded away or benched. When players have retired, it just doesn't show anybody as the starter.

Of course, this isn't really a prohibitive problem in any way. It just makes gameplanning a pain in the ass, because I have to go to rosters and run through all the players stats to see who the real starters are, which is a pain in the backside. But I also wonder if this would screw with the computer-generated suggestions for those who let the computer gameplan.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Any ideas?

Bump.

Did anyone ever figure this out? The first example was actually referring to my team, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Yoda

07-14-2008, 06:26 PM

Honestly, I don't see how this is an issue with Vista, this seems more to me like an issue with FoF. I have FoF on 3 vista machines and don't have an issue on any one of them. I also run it on XP Pro 64 bit without issue.

Well, that's not completely correct, when running the Create HTML on the XP 64 bit machine, it crashes when trying to create the HTML files from the 2k4 conversion, but runs fine on Vista and XP Pro 32 bit.

Darren29

07-15-2008, 02:05 AM

Well it must be an issue with vista, as when I installed FOF last year I followed all of the step by step guides on here & the 'run as administrator' type tasks, so I'm fairly sure I didn't do anything wrong.

Does anyone know if the guy in the NAFL ever got this resolved?

Yoda

07-15-2008, 02:15 AM

Sure....that's why no one else is having this problem, it's just his copy of vista that is possessed.....right. Actually, this 'general' problem is one the tech support world runs into all the time. Hell, I did it yesterday.....

Anyway, you can believe what you want, as anything I say you won't believe anyway. I really don't care for pissing matches over the net.

Darren29

07-15-2008, 03:06 AM

Look, I wasn't trying to start an argument, I'm just trying to figure out what the problem is.

I'll be the first to admit I'm no tech wizard, but I followed all the instructions on here (twice, cos I had to re-install FOF about a month later due to another totally unrelated problem with vista) and it didn't work, so I'd just like to know if anyone can help.

I really don't want to un-install it & start all over again, but is that probably the only option I've got?