Survivor: Lupus Tribal Thread

[KWhit]

Good job Blade.

[Blade6119]

thanks kwhit, its one of the few time brackets ill be here for(classes most of the day) so im glad i got it in when i did.

If we can unvote, how can we get the other brackets? If we cant vote twice, the big teams have a huge advantage

[KWhit]

So Swaggs has the next round. Who's available for the ones after that. We need to vote in every single round. I'll check my calendar and post the ones I can take in a minute.

[Swaggs]

I think we can vote more than once. Just that all of us have to vote at some point.

[Blade6119]

I can be here for sure for the last 2, and possibly the one at 5

[KWhit]

I think we can vote more than once. Just that all of us have to vote at some point.

Yeah, we can only vote once per round.

[KWhit]

I cannot make the one at 3:00. And I'm iffy on the one at 5:00 (should try to have someone else do it).

[Blade6119]

Yeah, we can only vote once per round.
k, swaggs has next....who can get the one after him and so on?

[Blade6119]

Damn, we need anxiety to be free then

[Swaggs]

I can't do the 3:00. I'll be at work.

[Swaggs]

Damnit!

Screwed up the color on my first post. Hopefully he accepts the second post. I changed it to try and negate one of the other posts.

[KWhit]

I don't think he'll accept it, but we'll see.

[Swaggs]

I guess I was blocked anyway, so it doesn't matter.

I hope we at least get credit for all of us participating now, though.

[Abe Sargent]

I can take the 3.

-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

want me to take it? Im here for it

[Blade6119]

43

[Blade6119]

whoah, this clock on this computer is wayyy fast

[Blade6119]

40?

[Blade6119]

i have no idea whats up with this comp

[Blade6119]

lets see if this clock is even close...45?

[Blade6119]

well, i changed it to the right minute...not lets see how far off the seconds are

[Blade6119]

oh wow, almost a whole minute

[Blade6119]

a

[Blade6119]

b

[Blade6119]

c

[Blade6119]

d

[Blade6119]

e

[Blade6119]

alright, i think i might have it on track now

[Blade6119]

testing 48

[Blade6119]

alright, on the 12 its the next minute..so now i work my ways back through the 11-12 range

[Blade6119]

49

[Blade6119]

that was 55, so its within 5 seconds of beging correct

[Blade6119]

lets try 57

[Blade6119]

50

[Blade6119]

not 57, on to 59 now

[Blade6119]

51 test

[Blade6119]

so 59 it has turned...try 58 now

[Blade6119]

testing 52(58)

[Blade6119]

ok, so its between 58 and 59...one or two more tests and im ready

[Blade6119]

53

[Blade6119]

so its at 59 seconds, ive got it tuned it...anxiety, you want me to do it?

[Blade6119]

anxiety, checking 55

[Blade6119]

ive got it dialed in, i need an answer anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Im in

[Abe Sargent]

Yeah, got first

[Abe Sargent]

What I did was leave FOFC for a half hour so my name wouldn't appear as being in, but i had the window up, and then I came back to this thread in the last minute to make sure the plan was still on. orked well!

[Blade6119]

good job...next time say ive got it or you go, not im in....i had no idea if that meant me go or you. Thank god you went :)

[Abe Sargent]

Heh - sorry, was rushed though :)

[Abe Sargent]

What woulda sucked is if I had claimed to have it and then gotten third or something crappy

[Blade6119]

lol, i think we have a nice strangle-hold on the lead right now. Swaggs getting 0 points hurt us, but other then that we have 3 firsts and 1 second. So we have 11 points, where i think second is back at 5-6. We need to pull high in two more events to luck it up for sure i think, and i can do them tonight. But not this afternoon

[Abe Sargent]

I was actually surprised to see you hear, I thought I was the only one who could get this time, so I was comfortable sniping it. Glad you were here, though, just in case.

-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

I was actually surprised to see you hear, I thought I was the only one who could get this time, so I was comfortable sniping it. Glad you were here, though, just in case.

-Anxiety

finished a test early, and when i left no one said they would be here. I thought i would be the only one

[Abe Sargent]

I can't do noon or 1:15, but I'll be back in teh afternoon and may be able to pick up 3 or 5 if we have need.

???

[KWhit]

Awsome job guys. So who has the next round? I can't do it.

[Blade6119]

???

may be able to and ill do it are two very different things anxiety :)

What matters is it was done, hooah

[Blade6119]

Awsome job guys. So who has the next round? I can't do it.

I MIGHT be able to get back, though im not counting on it. I have a class until 2:55, and the time for the round is 3:00(all my times). So if i get out early i might, but thats a big if

[Abe Sargent]

I can get 5

[Abe Sargent]

Arlight, let's make it official so there are no questions. I will be taking 5. I will snipe as well, going off radar and I won;t even log on until it's time to make the vote

[Abe Sargent]

Right now, was the front runners, its mroe important for us not to be disrupted than to disrupt another.

[Blade6119]

I totally agree, its best we just keep skating by, not getting into a fight with another team. We also want to avoid getting the most votes, which we seem to be doing

[Abe Sargent]

Feh - got second

[Abe Sargent]

Swaggs is starting to get some votes

[Blade6119]

2nd is good enough, we just want to maintain a steady pace. Path got first, and their still reeling from that double cancel earlier.

[Blade6119]

What do you think about the tyrith vs ardent/ge situation?

[Abe Sargent]

I think Tyrith is about to get his hands smacked by the GM

[Abe Sargent]

hmm, there'sa guest viewing our thread right now

[Blade6119]

Our plans are comprimised!!! WHAT EVER WILL WE DO!~~~~!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[KWhit]

Note: I cannot do the 7:30.

Who is available to take it?

[Blade6119]

not me, i know that for sure...ill be here for the last 2 though.

Swaggs, Anxiety?

[Swaggs]

Blade, why don't you post this next time and I will hang out in the thread, since it looks like folks are trying to vote me off anyway. That way, we'll at least get the points.

[Swaggs]

Actually, if KWhit is around, we can all help out by providing distractions for the other teams. If we can get some points this next deadline, we are in good shape to avoid elimination.

[KWhit]

I'll hang out in the thread. Blade are you doing this round?

[Blade6119]

I'll hang out in the thread. Blade are you doing this round?

sure, ill do it...any team in particular i should try to block, or just try harder to save swaggs?

[Swaggs]

I think we should go to block Howard this turn.

If we can keep them from scoring, we ensure that we stay out of tribal council.

[KWhit]

Yes.

[Blade6119]

Howard
path12
LoneStarGirl Voted out at Tribal Council
ntndeacon
Jonathan
Marathoner

Not marathoner...not ntn, so its gotta be path or JE in my mind. have both already voted?

[Swaggs]

I believe all have voted in this game, except for RA.

[Swaggs]

JE is the only one in the thread right now.

[Blade6119]

VOTE JONATHAN EZARIK

That will be my vote at the time

[Blade6119]

testing 41

[Swaggs]

actually, get marathoner.

He is on the WW forum, but not in the thread.

[Blade6119]

testing 43

[Blade6119]

testing 46

[Abe Sargent]

gl Blade

[Abe Sargent]

cock blocked

[Blade6119]

fuckity fuck fuck fuck

[Abe Sargent]

I thought if I showed up a minute or two before deadline they'd think it was e posting and move their vote

[Abe Sargent]

didn't work

[Swaggs]

damn... that couldn't have gone much worse.

[KWhit]

Who's doing 9:59?

[Swaggs]

How about this strategy for the last one:

We wait until everyone else goes and then purposely vote last to negate Howard's vote?

[Swaggs]

Anyone? Ideas?

[KWhit]

How about this strategy for the last one:

We wait until everyone else goes and then purposely vote last to negate Howard's vote?

No. You only negate their vote if you vote BEFORE they do.

[Swaggs]

ah... shit.

[Swaggs]

Well....

This is a paper/rock/scissors situation.

I am guessing they will think Anxiety or KWhit will post, so maybe Blade should go again?

[KWhit]

Who's going?

[KWhit]

If someone has it locked in, they need to go. I don't know which second the server clock changes

[KWhit]

Wow. We just got totally fucked.

[Swaggs]

That was smooth of us.

[Blade6119]

we just totally melted down...i left in shame thinking one of you would take it...wow, we just went from first two tribal council AGAIN

[Abe Sargent]

I do not like losing :( I left thinking that we had the evening covered, popped back in at the 45 minute to confuse other teams, popped back out again, and wow, did we screw some pooch.

To be fair, I hit second twice when I might have been a half second faster or whatnot, and that extra point or two would have been worth soemthing. We all share blame on this one I guess.

[hoopsguy]

What an incredible roller-coaster ride today had to be for your team. After a torrid start it all came apart down the stretch. What do you think happened? Did the other teams rise to meet your level, or did you take your foot off the gas?

[Swaggs]

I actually think this is the second time in this game that we have been screwed by our lack of numbers.

And, I think it hurt us in two ways today:

First, only four players to cover a day when we had to be available for virtually the entire day. I know I have little to no internet access while at work and I know most, if not all, of our team works and/or goes to school full-time, so we were at a big disadvantage in that way.

Second, a one-in-four shot to negate our vote, since there are only four of us, as opposed to a one-in-five or one-in-six for the other teams, and it just clearly made sense, especially after we took the lead, for the other teams to key in on and try to disable us. The other teams figured this out early enough and then took advantage of it down the stretch to kill us.

[hoopsguy]

What are your thoughts on Swaggs ending up with the most votes? Are you concerned about "something bad" happening to him?

[Swaggs]

I am concerned, but also eager to find out what it is. Maybe it will somehow turn into a positive.

[hoopsguy]

How do the presence of the idols impact your decisions for voting?

[hoopsguy]

Also, there has been a lot of speculation about the presence of "werewolves" on this island. Do you believe that you would recognize one if you were to vote them off? After all, it isn't like voting them off means you cap them with a silver bullet ... our advertisers would never go for something like that.

[Abe Sargent]

hoops since you are around, how come we are in council when we got the second highest score, not secodn lowest? I don;t understand that

[Blade6119]

Im not crazy when i say evil is manipulating things...the team with idols that can harm evil is the team being conspired against...im not crazy, people really are out to get us...:(

[Swaggs]

Right now, the idols are not a factor for me.

I'm probably going to see how tomorrow's challenge goes before deciding on who to vote for. It stinks in this game, because I really like all of the members of my tribe and like them outside the game, since I am very familiar with all of them as FOFC vets and I honestly don't think we have played a bad game up to this point. We have just been unfortunate with our numbers, as we need to run our games almost perfectly to win, whereas other teams can rely on their numbers to help them if they make mistakes.

I know I'll have to vote for one of three guys that I like and enjoy playing with and I am not ready to make the call on who yet.

[Abe Sargent]

Post 842 by Barkeep lists these as the final scores:

Tribal Scoreboard
Lupus 13
Oz 7
Howard 12
Helsing 16

[Swaggs]

Post 842 by Barkeep lists these as the final scores:

Tribal Scoreboard
Lupus 13
Oz 7
Howard 12
Helsing 16

BK didn't update it from the previous challenge.

You had me thinking we weren't going to have to vote, too. :(

[Swaggs]

Im not crazy when i say evil is manipulating things...the team with idols that can harm evil is the team being conspired against...im not crazy, people really are out to get us...:(

Blade, I don't doubt that the werewolves may be manipulating their teams, but I think the bigger motivation for voting against us is that the odds were higher that they would block one of ours, since there are only four of us. They had a 1/4 shot in blocking us, as opposed to a 1/5 or 1/6.

[hoopsguy]

hoops since you are around, how come we are in council when we got the second highest score, not secodn lowest? I don;t understand that

OOC - I'm not entirely sure, as I read the post a couple of times to make sure I was talking with the right group and saw the same thing you cited with the scores. But I went with his text in both the thread and our AIM conversation from when I came back online post-deadline.

[Blade6119]

This really sucks..im still stunned were going to tribal council again

[hoopsguy]

For the conspiracy-theory people out there - the two teams in tribal council are the team with the seer and the team who won the idols.

Do you think that the other teams should have soft-played against you based on this knowledge? If so, would reminding them of the idols during the daytime competition have helped or hindered your efforts?

[Swaggs]

Guys, what do you think about Tyrith's explanation of running another account because he is into statistics? I am leaning towards thinking he has some sort of ability to read other tribes' threads (and yes, I am aware that he could/will eventually see this), and just screwed up by not logging out first. Thoughts?

[KWhit]

Guys, what do you think about Tyrith's explanation of running another account because he is into statistics? I am leaning towards thinking he has some sort of ability to read other tribes' threads (and yes, I am aware that he could/will eventually see this), and just screwed up by not logging out first. Thoughts?

I believe what he said. I can totally see someone clicking on the # of posts to see who was being active. And he probably didn't realize that it was wrong to do so. Borderline? Yes. But he probably thought to himself that he was okay because he wasn't reading their threads.

I'm sure he had no idea that when you do that it shows you as being in the thread. Which is why he got pissed off when AE started accusing him of cheating.

It is a crappy situation, but I tend to believe Tyrith.

[KWhit]

For the conspiracy-theory people out there - the two teams in tribal council are the team with the seer and the team who won the idols.

Do you think that the other teams should have soft-played against you based on this knowledge? If so, would reminding them of the idols during the daytime competition have helped or hindered your efforts?

Nah. I think that since we haven't seen ANY evidence of wolves yet that players have just been trying to win challenges. At least to this point, a player is MUCH more likely to be voted off at tribal council than to be eaten by wolves.

So it is super important to win the challenges.

[KWhit]

Also, there has been a lot of speculation about the presence of "werewolves" on this island. Do you believe that you would recognize one if you were to vote them off? After all, it isn't like voting them off means you cap them with a silver bullet ... our advertisers would never go for something like that.

My concern is that once someone is voted off, they BECOME a wolf (or have a %chance to become a wolf). I don't have much to back that up, except that no wolf attacks have come yet, and I imagine they will now that we have voted some folks off the island.

[Abe Sargent]

Hello all. I;m glad that oday is the day I won't be around much because its a slow challenge. I'll be back 2-3 ish and then after 6 or 7.

We need to come up with a bidding strategy.

Thoughts?

[KWhit]

So swaggs.... Maybe we should do this riddle thing in THIS thread.

:)

[KWhit]

So, is the acrostic guy AE?

[KWhit]

Does #367 refer to this statement:

There also could possibly be more than one wolf per tribe if more than one volunteered...

[Blade6119]

Ya swaggs, maybe for a bit we keep it in here.

[KWhit]

I wonder if he is unable to post in here. Maybe he was made to only post in the main thread.

[Blade6119]

Swaggs....hello?

[Blade6119]

HI LSG!!! *WAVES*

[KWhit]

Swaggs, are you able to post in this thread at all? If so, just post something.

[LoneStarGirl]

lol... its fun to see Blade sweat a little :D

[KWhit]

lol... its fun to see Blade sweat a little :D

I'm not sure, but I don't think you're supposed to be reading our thread.

[Blade6119]

I'm not sure, but I don't think you're supposed to be reading our thread.

Shes not, and barkeep has been notified...

[Blade6119]

Hello all. I;m glad that oday is the day I won't be around much because its a slow challenge. I'll be back 2-3 ish and then after 6 or 7.

We need to come up with a bidding strategy.

Thoughts?
this was his last post swaggs

[LoneStarGirl]

lol, Barkeep knows I am reading all the threads. I have told him I will not participate in WW, especially not this game, so its really not a problem. But I will not be posting anymore, just letting you guys know whats going on.

[Blade6119]

You already did participate in WW? You quitting or something?

[Blade6119]

Swaggs, Say yes if your referring to yourself...say no if your referring to anxiety

[LoneStarGirl]

Probably so. The last 4-5 games haven't been fun at all.

[KWhit]

Swaggs:

Are you saying that YOU are a wolf?

Post YES or NO please.

[KWhit]

The person we know wrote the acrostic. Is that Swaggs?

[KWhit]

I'm going to post a few Y or N questions for you.

[KWhit]

cannot do what #2 mentioned in his first post.

Does that refer to:

Hello fellow survivors!

[KWhit]

OH! Just re-read some stuff.

You are going to have bidding advice for us today?!

[KWhit]

Okay. Does #2 refer to AlanT?

[Blade6119]

Lupus
Swaggs
KWhit
Chief Run Voted out at Tribal Council
Anxiety
Blade

Hey guys. Normal villager dude checking in. I don't think I need to post in blue in this thread, but I will just in case.

Kwhit is #2 on our list, and that was his first post...is that the post you mean?

[KWhit]

Blade, do you know what's going on?

[Blade6119]

kwhit is also #2 in posts in our thread

[Blade6119]

im working my way there kwhit, give it awhile and we will learn something im sure

[KWhit]

Swaggs was the #2 player to post in the thread. Is #2 you Swaggs?

[Blade6119]

Swaggs, is #2 kwhit?

[KWhit]

The first part of the clue is just that Swaggs can't post in THIS thread.

We have that part solved now.

[KWhit]

So this:

I can help with something else.

Yes or no?

Does that refer to you helping us with our bidding?

[KWhit]

There also could possibly be more than one wolf per tribe if more than one volunteered

Does this mean that YOU (SWAGGS) VOLUNTEERED?

[Blade6119]

What can you help us with swaggs?

[KWhit]

Swaggs - do you know the identity of a wolf?

[KWhit]

What can you help us with swaggs?

Has to be a y/n question.

[KWhit]

Do you know who volunteered?

[Blade6119]

Do you know a wolf?

Do you know more about this challenge then everyone else?

[KWhit]

Would you say that your help in the challenge would be of significant value - above and beyond what a 'normal' person would be able to do?

[Blade6119]

Can you communicate you help to us in a way the other tribes wont see it and be helped too?

[Blade6119]

Kwhit, can i order you to post in this thread?

Kwhit, can i order you to be able to PM?

[KWhit]

Kwhit, can i order you to post in this thread?

Kwhit, can i order you to be able to PM?

huh?

[KWhit]

So swaggs, it sounds like you're saying that you can help us in the challenge today, but you have no real insider info that could give us a boost. Is that correct?

[Blade6119]

Can you communicate via AIM?

Is all this work worth the effort im expending?

[KWhit]

Do you have any "inside" information about ANY subject that we need to try to get out of you today?

[KWhit]

Can you communicate via AIM?

Is all this work worth the effort im expending?

I'm thinking not.

[Blade6119]

Im voting swaggs today...i just wasted two hours i could have been doing the challenge to learn that he has absolutely nothing to offer us...

[KWhit]

Okay. So he can't post in this thread. That's about it.

[Blade6119]

Ill be back later in the day...i have to go take a test...my vote is already in

[KWhit]

So we need to start thinking about a bidding strategy. I'm going to be unavailable tonight from about 4pm on until at least 8 or so (maybe later).



Welcome everyone to our next Reward and Immunity Challenge. I think you'll notice that Tyrith has suddenly morphed into SnDvls. We're not quite sure how this happened, but we do welcome SnDvls to the mix.


When you are the bodyguard or a wolf there is a question of psychology. Who do you guard that night? Who should you attack? The most obvious person? But if they're so obvious does that really make them not obvious? And on and on this game of psychology can go.

Well today you all will be asking yourselves something similar. Each tribe is being allocated $29. Your goal as a tribe is to get the most points. There are 15 "places" you can bid on with different points. Those places are
A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
D. Fleabit Cove - 11
E. Dogbonia - 10
F. Dog Ear - 12
G. Homidia - 15
H. Lupinia - 16
I. Garouvia - 25
J. North Canis - 17
K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
L. South Canis - 29
M. Lower Fang - 23
N. Upper Fang -21
O. Alpovia - 13

Each tribe may spend some of their money bidding on a place. The highest bid wins. Tribes should submit to me their list of bids for each of the places by 10 PM today. The tribe with the most points will win the challenge, while the tribe with the fewest will head to tribal council.

Since information is life in this game the winning tribe will gain some new information. Each player on the winning tribe will get to ask, via PM, one of the following questions:
How many wolves are on tribe X?
How many wolves are in the game?
Does player X have an idol?
What was the vote total of tribe council for Tribe X? (For Lupus must chose one of their two tribal councils)
What will be the reward at tomorrow's challenge?

Survivors ready? GO!

Here's the post for reference.

[Abe Sargent]

There's only four teams, so it's very possible that some cities won't get much of a bid at all. Do you expect some team to bi at least one on each of them? We could bid two on every one except one where we bid one (or none and add that dollar to one of them, to raise the bid to three)

-Anxiety

[KWhit]

I'd worry that we might lose on all of them if we did that. Seems to me that this is just going to be dumb luck.

[Abe Sargent]

Well, I expect some team to do this:

Team A -
Bid one on every thing, bid higher amounts on ones that matter more

Team B -
Bid almost exclusively on many of the middle level ones

Team C - Bid a decent amount on some of the higher ones and try to pick up a few smaller ones as well to supplement

The "two per" strategy overraises strategy one, and if there is no strategy one then we pick up all of the unbidded things. Remember, there are 15 lots and just four teams. Each team should average around four lots each. the "two per" strategy could net us five or six lots, with a possibility for a lot more if one or more teams implement the Team A Strategy.


Remember too, this competition gets to ask one question of BK and that's it. It'd be nice, but we're not chasing immunity or idols or a seer or dodging a vote off or anything.

-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

Well, wed be one short of the bidding 2 on all...the problem is i dont think we will overcome to top teams in doing so. Though we very well might, depending on how spread out they are...

[KWhit]

Remember too, this competition gets to ask one question of BK and that's it. It'd be nice, but we're not chasing immunity or idols or a seer or dodging a vote off or anything.

-Anxiety


This is an immunity challenge too.

[KWhit]

Okay. How about something like this:


$0 A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
$2 B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
$3 C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
$2 D. Fleabit Cove - 11
$2 E. Dogbonia - 10
$2 F. Dog Ear - 12
$2 G. Homidia - 15
$2 H. Lupinia - 16
$2 I. Garouvia - 25
$2 J. North Canis - 17
$2 K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
$0 L. South Canis - 29
$3 M. Lower Fang - 23
$3 N. Upper Fang -21
$2 O. Alpovia - 13


I say we don't even go after the big one - let other teams chase it. I think teams may also focus on the 2nd highest item if they employ the same strategy that we are, so let's not even go after it either.

Then use our points to focus a little higher on the 2nd tier areas, but still have a ton of options so that we'll be bound to win (or tie) a few with 2 points on them.

[Abe Sargent]

This is an immunity challenge too.

I totally missed that. Thanks!

[Abe Sargent]

Okay. How about something like this:


$0 A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
$2 B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
$3 C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
$2 D. Fleabit Cove - 11
$2 E. Dogbonia - 10
$2 F. Dog Ear - 12
$2 G. Homidia - 15
$2 H. Lupinia - 16
$2 I. Garouvia - 25
$2 J. North Canis - 17
$2 K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
$0 L. South Canis - 29
$3 M. Lower Fang - 23
$3 N. Upper Fang -21
$2 O. Alpovia - 13


I say we don't even go after the big one - let other teams chase it. I think teams may also focus on the 2nd highest item if they employ the same strategy that we are, so let's not even go after it either.

Then use our points to focus a little higher on the 2nd tier areas, but still have a ton of options so that we'll be bound to win (or tie) a few with 2 points on them.



Good points. If we are going to do this strategy, I think this is the best submission. In other news, I have my staff meeting in a few minutes, so this is the last post from me for a while. good luck!

[Blade6119]

Im fine with that strat...were basically banking on the top teams all going for the big dogs, or at least all concentrating on a few, and us picking up all the scraps

[Blade6119]

Remember too, this competition gets to ask one question of BK and that's it.

Each member of the winning team gets to ask one...so while we would get less then others, we would still get more then 1

[Blade6119]

All 3 that matter(swaggs isnt going to help) have agreed, can we submit it now?

[KWhit]

All 3 that matter(swaggs isnt going to help) have agreed, can we submit it now?

Sure. I'll go ahead and send in the PM.

[KWhit]

PM sent to Barkeep. Cross your fingers.

[Blade6119]

I hope you all understand why i lied about giving the idols to the team with the seer. That way, they dont go after the seer out of fear, and if they do attack us we have a 2/3 chance of them hitting an idol(unless whoever gets voted off had one)

[KWhit]

I hope you all understand why i lied about giving the idols to the team with the seer. That way, they dont go after the seer out of fear, and if they do attack us we have a 2/3 chance of them hitting an idol(unless whoever gets voted off had one)


Dude,

I'm just afraid it's going to come back and bite us in the ass when they find out you lied about it.

[Blade6119]

Dude,

I'm just afraid it's going to come back and bite us in the ass when they find out you lied about it.

If it does, blame it all on me...i didnt distribute the idols, so i cant really be accused of giving them to just wolves or something. Thats the reason i wanted us all to have a hand in it, so we could all back-up each others stories if push comes to shove

[Abe Sargent]

Okay folks, in a few minutes, the votes will be tallied, and I want to be totally up front on who I voted for and why. Swaggs I voted for you early, and here's why:

#1 - Of the four remaining players, the other two have a greater degree of availability than you do on a nomral day. If it's just three of us going it for a while, that'll be valuable.

#2 - I think they have the idols, based on what was said in the thread, so I'd prefer to vote for a non-idol person.


-Anxiety

[KWhit]

So is anybody voting on anyone based on whether you think they're a wolf or not???

Swaggs, you said you think Blade is a wolf. Anyone else have any suspicions at this point? That's who we should be voting for.

[Blade6119]

So is anybody voting on anyone based on whether you think they're a wolf or not???

If they are, announcing it to everyone in the thread(and the suspected wolf), wouldnt be wise with a wolf kill tonight coming

[KWhit]

Unless we can pool our votes and get him out before he kills one of us.

[KWhit]

Hey Anxiety. You around?

[Abe Sargent]

yeah

[KWhit]

Ok. Here's what I think we need to do.

I hate it, but I think we need to vote for Blade tonight. I hate the position he put the whole team in when he lied about giving the idols to the team with the seer.

[KWhit]

I unvoted swaggs and voted blade. You can do that. I confirmed it with BK.

[KWhit]

Blade, I hate to do this. I thought you and I were going to have kind of an alliance from some earlier comments in the thread. But you put us in danger tonight.

[KWhit]

Anxiety, are you there?

:)

[KWhit]

I have no idea if Swaggs is good or bad (and no idea really about Blade either).

[KWhit]

But they are going to find out that we STILL have the idols tonight by asking the questions. One of the questions they can ask is who has the idols!

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, I'll follow.

[KWhit]

So whoever wins the challenge is going to know that Blade lied. I'd rather distance ourselves from him now rather than wait.

[KWhit]

Okay. Sorry Blade.

[KWhit]

Swaggs, I hope your vote is where you said it was.

[KWhit]

So, should we come out and tell everyone that we DIDN'T give our idols away. I was going to make a post saying that and telling everyone that Blade was lying, but I wanted to check with you guys first.

[Abe Sargent]

Let's old on and see how today plays out first.

[KWhit]

Okay. I just didn't want people to think that we're blaming it on him just because he's voted out (if he is...).

[Swaggs]

Okay... I'm back.

[KWhit]

Hey!

[Swaggs]

This sucked today.

[KWhit]

Swaggs, I still don't understand something about today. Why did you say this:

If Blade would not have let everyone in on it, it could have been very, very valuable to our tribe.

What could you have done to help us if we hadn't screwed it up?

[Barkeep49]

Let me go tally the votes.

[Barkeep49]

First vote:
Blade

[Barkeep49]

Second vote:
Blade
Two votes Blade

[Barkeep49]

Third vote:
Swaggs
Two votes Blade, One vote Swaggs

[KWhit]

Keeping it interesting...

[Barkeep49]

Fourth vote:
Blade
That's thee votes Blade, that's enough. I won't read the last vote. Bring me your post button. The tribe has spoken.

[Swaggs]

Fourth vote:

That's thee votes Blade, that's enough. I won't read the last vote. Bring me your post button. The tribe has spoken.

There was another vote?

[KWhit]

Sorry Blade. Nothing personal.

I think we did the right thing guys. Swaggs, was he one of the ones you gave an idol to?

[Swaggs]

Sorry Blade. Nothing personal.

I think we did the right thing guys. Swaggs, was he one of the ones you gave an idol to?

Yes.

[Barkeep49]

There was another vote?
No.

[hoopsguy]

And momentum swings quickly on Survivor. The quick turn of events at the end of yesterday left this tribe in a bad spot today. Blade, it appears that you lost the trust of your tribe over the course of the day. I'm sure it is frustrating having to leave under these circumstances, but at least you will not be devoured by the so-called "werewolves" that are rumored to exist.

Lupus - I know that you have played to win from the outset of this game. But with shrinking numbers you are definitely going to have your work cut out to survive in the coming days. I hope that we do not have another fireside chat anytime terribly soon.

[Swaggs]

Swaggs, I still don't understand something about today. Why did you say this:



What could you have done to help us if we hadn't screwed it up?

Paraphrasing here, but my interpretation was that if I could get you all to acknowledge what my punishment was before any of the others realized it, I would get a nondescript idol at the end of the day.

Which, I guess could have been good or bad, but considering that it was tribal council day, I wanted pretty badly and hoped could help us avoid a lynch.

[KWhit]

Ouch. Sorry, dude.

[KWhit]

That would have been nice.

[Swaggs]

So, I guess we don't really get to know if the booted players are wolves or not, do we?

[KWhit]

Guess not.

[Abe Sargent]

I wish we hadn;t second guessed out strategy. If we had not moved votes off of a few of the lots, we would have won.

[Swaggs]

At least we don't have another tribal council.

And I don't have another bad fate awaiting me tomorrow. Hopefully.

[Blade6119]

Im really dissapointed in you guys...just wow...

[Abe Sargent]

Tomorrow I will be incommunicado in a total way during business hours doing interviews for students interested in working for me in teh fall.


-Anxiety

[Swaggs]

Guys, any thoughts here?

I have a wikipedia account and am willing to do whichever. I think we should take FBCB or text sims. We have until Sunday, so I can definitely do some work on this one in the next couple of days.

[KWhit]

I've never played FBCB, so I guess we need to do text sims. I'll go choose it.

[Swaggs]

I think we go ahead and tell them why we voted for Blade, right?

[KWhit]

Any thoughts about giving the idols to the team with the seer?

[Abe Sargent]

I'm totally cool with giving away idols to a team with no wolf and a seer

[Swaggs]

Fine by me.

Seems like a good gesture of trust.

[KWhit]

Swaggs, who did you give the other idol to?

[Swaggs]

Swaggs, who did you give the other idol to?

I did them exactly as we had discussed. I figured that was as smart a thing to do as any.

Sword idol to Blade.
Shield idol to you.

[Abe Sargent]

I'll be around mid-afternoon tomorrow for an extended period of time and can do some work on the article then.

[Abe Sargent]

Okay folks, here si teh current text that we have for Text Sims:

A text sim is short for text simulation and is the common term for a type of computer game. These computer games attempt to simulate some aspect of the real world using text and numbers rather than graphics.

A common type of text sim is the sports text sim. Games in this genre include Championship Manager/Football Manager, NHL Eastside Hockey Manager, JumpShot Basketball, Out of the Park Baseball and Front Office Football.


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

I am currently redoing the introduction.

[Abe Sargent]

The text sim (which stands for text simulation) is a type of electronic game that focuses on using a text based element to simulate some aspect of the real world. Text sims typically focus on creating as detailed a simulation of their object as possible, and therefore, other traditional game elements are often set aside in pursuit of creating an accurate simulation experience for the user. This pursuit of accurate simulation often comes at the expense of some or most audio or graphical elements. Numerous examples of soundless and graphic-light text sims exist.

The best selling text sim of all time is the Champioship Manager/Football Manager series, published by Sports Interactive games, sold in America as Worldwide Soccer Manager. This soccer text simulation is an advanced version of a text sim with a 2D graphical sim engine for soccer games.

There are several genres of text sims. The most popular may be the sports text sim. In addition to the above mentioned Football Manager, there are several text-based sim games in baseball, football, basketball, hockey, even wrestling. This genre is typically heavy is stats, and some games have been compared to spreadsheets with all of their detail to simulating the true environment of the sport. One of the flagship products of the sports text sim is Front Office Football, which is renowned for creating a very accurate experience as a general manager of a professional football team while also retaining a heavy statistical engine.

Another genre of text sims is the tycoon genre. Although early entrants in the tycoon genre were graphically based, such as Railroad Tycoon and later Roller Coaster Tycoon, a large number of tycoon clones arose. The tycoon genre focuses on a economic simulation of one or more commercial elements. Many recent budget tycoon games have more in common with text sims than the original games, often retaining graphics merely as an interface to appeal to the general audience. Examples of these games include Coffee Tycoon, where a player runs a coffee shop franchise; Hollywood Mogul, where the player creates and runs a movie studio; and Starship Tycoon where the player manages a merchant spaceship plying the trade routes in the future.

A third text sim genre is the political similulation. Political enterprises such as elections lend themselves well to the statistics-oreinted text sim gaming. These text sims often focus on elections, although a few chose instead to focus on the running on a country. Due to the nature of this genre, it often relies on a graphical interface, typically a map. However, the game information is delivered in a text-based format. Examples of this genre include The Political Machine and Power Politics, where the player tries to win an election for the American Presidency.

Yet another text sim genre is the real world simulation. These text sims try to manage a real world situation of some sort in a text based engine. Often this genre will try to use statistics to figure out some element of life. A recent example of this genre is Kudos, where a player simulates the life of a young person in their early twenties trying to decide what to do with life.

The genre is widening every year, as more and more developers release games, often about new areas. Although the typical statistics that text sims seem to favor might initially indicate certain endeavors as successes, game developers appear to be reaching out beyond these boundaries.


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

That's a half hour of writing and research

[Abe Sargent]

I do not have a wikipedia account, so since I remember someone mentioning that they do have an account, maybe they can add it (was it Swaggs, yeah?)


-Anxiety

[KWhit]

Yeah, I think so. Great job, Anxiety.

[Swaggs]

Put this up late last night.

I added several links and names of text sims.

I think we did pretty well, considering what we had to work with.

[KWhit]

Good job guys. Sorry I wasn't able to help. It has been a shitty weekend all around (had to work yesterday, 'issues' at home today).

Thanks for shouldering the load on this one.

[Swaggs]

Looks like we have a 50/50 shot of winning this.

I think ours had a much greater improvement and better content, but theirs is a little more attractive to look at.

Either way, nice to not be heading back to tribal council for awhile longer.

[Swaggs]

Will you guys be around after 8:00 PM EST or so? If so, we could put something together then.

I don't think others can read our thread today, but is that your understanding, too? If they can, I don't want to discuss answers until just before the deadline.

[KWhit]

I don't think anyone can read our thread, so it should be safe to talk.

Here's the post:

C'mon in everyone. You'll notice that ntn was voted off last night.

Today's challenge is a simple reward challenge. In Werewolf you must learn to think like others. Knowing how to predict people's actions and thoughts gives you a large advantage, especially as a wolf. And so for this challenge we'll be playing a game of "Family Feud".

I surveyed people about various questions. Who I surveyed is a little different for each question and is noted. I multiplied the actual answers so each question had a possible 100 points (so if I surveyed 20 people, and you guess an answer which got 2 responses, you'll get 10 points). At least two people had to list an answer in order for it to appear on the board.

Questions were:

30 library patrons in the Youth Services section of a library were asked: Which is the best Harry Potter book? (6 answers)

40 fourth graders were asked: What is your favorite food? (5 answers)

20 teachers were asked: Which movie will win best picture? (5 answers)

20 poker players were asked: Who is the best poker player? (4 answers)

30 adults (combination of library patrons and teachers) were asked: What time do you get up in the morning (to the nearest half hour)? (6 answers)

The winning tribe will receive the ability to stay strong for a couple of the tribulations which await you. Survivors ready? Go!

[KWhit]

Some random thoughts:

30 library patrons in the Youth Services section of a library were asked: Which is the best Harry Potter book? (6 answers)

I'm thinking it will be the 1st or last book (or possibly Goblet of Fire, since that was the most recent movie released).

I'd personally say the best was the last: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. But I'm afraid that people may not remember the name of it and just answer something easier like the first one - HArry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.


40 fourth graders were asked: What is your favorite food? (5 answers)

Pizza?


20 teachers were asked: Which movie will win best picture? (5 answers)

The Departed?


20 poker players were asked: Who is the best poker player? (4 answers)

Phil Helmuth (even though people hate him, his name jumps to mind immediately) or Scotty Nguyen, or Daniel Negreanu (his name isn't easy to remember though...)


30 adults (combination of library patrons and teachers) were asked: What time do you get up in the morning (to the nearest half hour)? (6 answers)

I would say 6am (or maybe 6:30).

[Abe Sargent]

I'd go withteh last book if you think it was the bset.

Some random thoughts:

30 library patrons in the Youth Services section of a library were asked: Which is the best Harry Potter book? (6 answers)

I'm thinking it will be the 1st or last book (or possibly Goblet of Fire, since that was the most recent movie released).

I'd personally say the best was the last: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. But I'm afraid that people may not remember the name of it and just answer something easier like the first one - HArry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.


40 fourth graders were asked: What is your favorite food? (5 answers)

Pizza?


20 teachers were asked: Which movie will win best picture? (5 answers)

The Departed?


20 poker players were asked: Who is the best poker player? (4 answers)

Phil Helmuth (even though people hate him, his name jumps to mind immediately) or Scotty Nguyen, or Daniel Negreanu (his name isn't easy to remember though...)


30 adults (combination of library patrons and teachers) were asked: What time do you get up in the morning (to the nearest half hour)? (6 answers)

I would say 6am (or maybe 6:30).