Survivor: New Helsing Tribal Thread

[Barkeep49]

All members of the Helsing thread may read and post here. Messages to the tribe and tribal council will also be held in this thread.

Your team buff is orange.

[Lathum]

All members of the Howard thread may read and post here. Messages to the tribe and tribal council will also be held in this thread.

Your team buff is orange.

should this read Helsing?

[Barkeep49]

should this read Helsing?
It does read Helsing. I don't know what you're talking about :)

[Lathum]

HA!!

villager checking in

[Lathum]

dola- hi to my tribe, I LOL when I saw the makup of this group, should be very fun

[Alan T]

Hello tribe, You all stuck with me it appears this game :)

[Lathum]

I am predicting we will lead in post count

[Barkeep49]

I am predicting we will lead in post count
Me too. And it should be noted that Blade almost was in this tribe as well. God THAT would have made for a lot of posts.

[Lathum]

Me too. And it should be noted that Blade almost was in this tribe as well. God THAT would have made for a lot of posts.

lol, could you imagine

[Alan T]

That would have been fun in some twisted way.

[Passacaglia]

Helsing villagers, represent!!!! (that means I'm one)

[Grammaticus]

I'm checking in, GO HELSING! Not really sure what is going to happen, but It feels like we will have to work as a team

[Grammaticus]

Oh and I'm just a normal villager.

[Grammaticus]

Where is everybody?

[Alan T]

Sorry, was busy with superbowl all evening. Im going to bed now though. I'll be around more tommorrow/

[Passacaglia]

Where is everybody?

I assume we're all waiting for a challenge?

[Lathum]

drunk

[Barkeep49]

Tree mail arrives, it reads

Will you be the ones to find the picture?
Do so and become an island fixture
Otherwise your stay here could be mighty quick
And you will lose out on a cool new trick.

Report to the Challenge thread

[Tyrith]

Well, that sucked.

[Lathum]

hey guys, sorry for the non participation, I think you all know I am usually more active. If we lose the challange and you vote for me I'll understand, people get vote out for alot less on day one.

[Alan T]

Well I am not panicing yet. Tyrith coming over was huge.. so that let us have 1 extra person than other teams except Oz. I will be suprised if we get any bonus for winning, but I think we have a shot at not being a team who has to vote someone off tonight.

As long as all of us put in 5 except Lathum who put in 2, that still gives us 27/30 which is more than 2 of the teams can do. Just need to get lucky on which questions other teams choose to answer.

[Tyrith]

Well I am not panicing yet. Tyrith coming over was huge.. so that let us have 1 extra person than other teams except Oz. I will be suprised if we get any bonus for winning, but I think we have a shot at not being a team who has to vote someone off tonight.

As long as all of us put in 5 except Lathum who put in 2, that still gives us 27/30 which is more than 2 of the teams can do. Just need to get lucky on which questions other teams choose to answer.

Hopefully we'll be fine, no DQs or anything. I suspect we'll be second place tonight.

[Lathum]

Tyrith definatly joined the cool tribe :).

[Alan T]

Nice job.. way to pull through at the end there. Big kudos to Tyrith for the last hour work.

Well we're safe for a day.. the downside however is once we arent safe any longer we might be a target for wolves because someone in our tribe will be the seer.

[Lathum]

holy crap you guys won. So do we discuss who the seer should be?

[Alan T]

holy crap you guys won. So do we discuss who the seer should be?


Im not sure. I was under the impression that it was quietly awarded to one of us. I am guessing the chances are one of each team has a wolf. (maybe not, but my initial guess).. so for us to say in thread who the seer is would let the wolves know too.

[Barkeep49]

Im not sure. I was under the impression that it was quietly awarded to one of us. I am guessing the chances are one of each team has a wolf. (maybe not, but my initial guess).. so for us to say in thread who the seer is would let the wolves know too.
Correct. I will be PM'ing the seer sometime before the next reward challenge is posted.

[Tyrith]

Yay, we won, I was not expecting that, but it seems like some of the other teams had some malfunctions. I think our good tracking won this for us -- nice job, Alan.

[Lathum]

Im not sure. I was under the impression that it was quietly awarded to one of us. I am guessing the chances are one of each team has a wolf. (maybe not, but my initial guess).. so for us to say in thread who the seer is would let the wolves know too.

good point, I'm trying to wrap my mind around this game and the flow of it such as when do we find out who the losing tribes voted out and such.

[Lathum]

recount, we didn't win but we were still in second. That may help us since the wolves may leave us alone.

[Alan T]

Hopefully that will be the case.

[Lathum]

ok, the long drive kicked my ass, I'm off to bed. I'll be around tomorrow.

[Passacaglia]

Good job, guys! Sorry I let you down with some of them. I'd like to hear from Barkeep about Madden Bowl 07, though -- I can see that maybe my feline was not huge enough or something, but I definitely had a picture of Madden Bowl 07.

[Grammaticus]

Pass, he screwed you on having two separate pics for the comish photo's. No biggie though.

I'm actually glad we don't have the seer as that would probably make the team a target.

[Grammaticus]

Maybe we can get Barkeep to post all of the links sent in. It would probably be a good laugh to see what everyone sent, assuming it has not additional game meaning.

[Barkeep49]

Tree mail arrives.

Do you have a way with the written word?
The winner will hold back the werewolf herd
So hopefully you can rhyme
And have an easy time

[Grammaticus]

I had no initiative yesterday.

[Grammaticus]

Tree mail arrives.


Are we supposed to meet somewhere?

[Barkeep49]

Are we supposed to meet somewhere?
Challenge is now up in the thread.

[Alan T]

Ugh poems.

[Alan T]

Ok, I guess we need to think of a theme. Preferably something that is easy to get inspiration and write about.

I was thinking about things that are FOFC board related.. some thoughts I had..

Theme possibilities:

The Oakland Raiders
The bleak time between the end of Football season and start of Baseball season
Werewolf players get no respect
Being shipwrecked with a bunch of computer geeks.

Just some ideas to toss out. Curious if others have any ideas for a theme. Ideally for me I would prefer if we could decide on a theme by noon or 1pm EST, so I would have a few hours to help write poems. Since availability in the evenings is some times tough, I would prefer we have poems written during the day and we can do the finishing touches in the early evening before submitting them.

[Passacaglia]

I like either 2 or 3....2 seems like it would be easiest.

[Tyrith]

I think we should go with Alan's thought and decide on a theme in the next few hours so we can start tossing out poetry....cause this is gonna be bad. I am personally TERRIBLE at poetry, but I'll do what I can. Out the themes Alan has talked about I have to agree with Pass that number 2 would probably be easiest; 3 is likely to just go into sheer whining at some point, and I'm not sure who is going to be judging this -- chance not all of them will be WW players or appreciate our complaining.

[Passacaglia]

I think we should go with Alan's thought and decide on a theme in the next few hours so we can start tossing out poetry....cause this is gonna be bad. I am personally TERRIBLE at poetry, but I'll do what I can. Out the themes Alan has talked about I have to agree with Pass that number 2 would probably be easiest; 3 is likely to just go into sheer whining at some point, and I'm not sure who is going to be judging this -- chance not all of them will be WW players or appreciate our complaining.

Really good point, Tyrith -- the celebrity judges may be non-WW people.

[Alan T]

Since we are waiting on some people to come in and toss in their opinions on theme type.. here is what our task is with pointers. We have to come up with 4 different unique poems based on the same theme. I'll use some examples here with the 2nd theme (The time between football season and baseball season) since thats the one most like so far.

Acrostic of at least 6 lines - An acrostic is a poem that also spells out another word with the first letter of each line, paragraph or other repeating pattern. An example:

Below as I look down from the stands
Absent are the football players and marching bands,
Sadly there is no more football this year,
Empty sundays without friends or good cheer;
But don't worry and please don't fret
As a new sport is not here just yet,
Look ahead until a March day
Lastly pitchers and catchers are here to stay.

One limerick - A limerick is a 5 line poem that has a strict meter to it. It follows a rhyme scheme of A-A-B-B-A. Meaning the A lines rhyme and the B lines rhyme. In addition, the limerick follows a strict beat where the A lines are 3 beats and the B lines are 2 beats. Here is an example of a limerick:

There once was a young bears buff,
For whom losing was pretty rough.
Rex Grossman threw away
his glorious day,
Now waiting for the White Sox is tough.

[Alan T]

1 Haiku - A Haiku is a 17 syllable verse. Three lines seperated with 5 - 7 - 5 pattern. Usually a haiku is broken into two parts with a dash, semi-colon or some seperator happening at the end of either the first or second line. Haikus must also contain a season word (a kigo) to describe what season the haiku is set in. Examples would be cherry blossoms in the spring or snow for the winter. Example:

Snow covers the field
Where has all of the crowd gone?
Spring will be here soon.

[Tyrith]

Alan should get a cookie. I think that acrostic is actually pretty good -- I don't know if I could beat that if I spent all day trying, although I'm not sure if that says more about him or me.

[Lathum]

I like the theme idea as well. #2 works for me and Alan's 2 are pretty good. I have to go run some errands but can try and come up with something later in the day.

I am confused, no night kill and was anyone voted from the other tribes?

[Alan T]

One 8 to 20 line poem with rhyme scheme - This is probably the most traditional poem type that we all learned in school. There are many different types of rhyme schemes so we likely want to pick one that best fits an 8-20 line poem. Some various types of rhyme schemes: (thanks to wikipedia)


* Clerihew: "aabb aabb".
* Couplet: "aa", but usually occurs as "aa bb cc dd ...".
* Monorhyme: "aaaaa...", an identical rhyme on every line, common in Latin and Arabic
* Ottava rima: "abababcc".
* Sonnet
o Petrarchan sonnet: "abba abba cde cde" or "abba abba cdc cdc".
o Shakespearean sonnet: "abab cdcd efef gg".
o Spenserian sonnet: "abab bcbc cdcd ee".
o Onegin stanzas: "aBaBccDDeFFeGG" with the lowercase letters representing feminine rhymes and the uppercase representing masculine rhymes, written in iambic tetrameter.
* Spenserian stanza: "ababbcbcc".
* Triplet: "aaa", often repeating like the couplet.



I'm not putting an example here as this is pretty self explanatory I think. I personally would guess a Shakesperean sonnet might be the best for this type of thing. That rhyme pattern is:

abab cdcd efef gg

[Lathum]

I have an idea for the ryming poem but it may be a while

[Tyrith]

I like the theme idea as well. #2 works for me and Alan's 2 are pretty good. I have to go run some errands but can try and come up with something later in the day.

I am confused, no night kill and was anyone voted from the other tribes?

Tribal council is today, it wasn't run at night. There wasn't really a clear cut night phase like a typical WW thing. There was some volunteering thing last night -- BK hinted that there were some people that are more evil today than yesterday. But everything else hasn't happened yet.

[Alan T]

I like the theme idea as well. #2 works for me and Alan's 2 are pretty good. I have to go run some errands but can try and come up with something later in the day.

I am confused, no night kill and was anyone voted from the other tribes?


From the sounds of barkeep's post, the volunteers were picked as wolves from last night. I don't know if the other tribes have voted out someone yet or not, but I guess thats happening today? Maybe wolves did kill someone too? If it has happened then it probably happened in their team thread and we just don't know who was voted out and who was killed until we all come together tonight later on.

[Lathum]

I guess no news is good news.

[Tyrith]

From the sounds of barkeep's post, the volunteers were picked as wolves from last night. I don't know if the other tribes have voted out someone yet or not, but I guess thats happening today? Maybe wolves did kill someone too? If it has happened then it probably happened in their team thread and we just don't know who was voted out and who was killed until we all come together tonight later on.

If someone had died we'd know about it in the first post of the Challenge thread, I think. And we'd likely be hearing about it from the other tribes. We can infer from the thread titles of the other tribal threads that Tribal Council is happening today; I think BK himself also talked about this in the Challenge thread.

[Alan T]

I have an idea for the ryming poem but it may be a while


I'm more than happy if people want to throw out poem ideas, or their own haikus or limericks or acrostics. Or if they want to make suggestions for the examples i put out or whatever. I just tried to give examples mainly because when trying to figure out how to explain a limerick rhyming meter, I couldn't think of how to do it in text without writing badum badum badum alot :)

I used those posts as examples, I never was any good at poetry though :)

[Tyrith]

I seriously think that if we stick with this theme and we aren't aiming for everything to have massive humor value Alan's is pretty good; I'd focus on other things. The rhyming poem is probably going to need to be a true team effort rather than everyone throwing out possibilites and having us pick the best one. If anyone gets any ideas or possible poems done throw them out here and we can try to work with them.

[Alan T]

I seriously think that if we stick with this theme and we aren't aiming for everything to have massive humor value Alan's is pretty good; I'd focus on other things. The rhyming poem is probably going to need to be a true team effort rather than everyone throwing out possibilites and having us pick the best one. If anyone gets any ideas or possible poems done throw them out here and we can try to work with them.

I would like to hear what Gramm or Mr.W think about the theme before we set on it for sure. Lets give another 2 hours till like 1pm EST to see if they pop in. If they don't by then, I think we need to run with this theme probably if its what everyone likes the best.

Until we know for sure what theme, probably doesnt' make alot of sense to spend a ton of time writing a poem if its not the one we are sticking with. I did most of these as examples, and for the most part they were pretty quick other than the Acrostic.

[Tyrith]

I would like to hear what Gramm or Mr.W think about the theme before we set on it for sure. Lets give another 2 hours till like 1pm EST to see if they pop in. If they don't by then, I think we need to run with this theme probably if its what everyone likes the best.

Until we know for sure what theme, probably doesnt' make alot of sense to spend a ton of time writing a poem if its not the one we are sticking with. I did most of these as examples, and for the most part they were pretty quick other than the Acrostic.

Yeah, I'd be okay with waiting another couple of hours to say the theme for sure. I'm not going to be able to do any work until then anyway, and I will also likely be leaving around 5 CST for several hours. But if they don't have any severe objections then we can run with it.

[Alan T]

Yeah, I'd be okay with waiting another couple of hours to say the theme for sure. I'm not going to be able to do any work until then anyway, and I will also likely be leaving around 5 CST for several hours. But if they don't have any severe objections then we can run with it.


I probably won't be able to dedicate enough time to write anything after about 6pm EST tonight. I'll be able to hop in and out until deadline, but most of my contribution will have to be this afternoon. So I hope they show up sooner than later :)

[Alan T]

As I speak, both are in the thread reading now. So hopefully we can lock up a theme sooner and get to work on the painful part :)

[Grammaticus]

I think idea number 3 would be a lot easier to write about.

My other suggestion is to use the "Mannings" as a topic. Everyone seems to get a kick out of either good or bad Manning stuff.

[Alan T]

Oh woops, just noticed, tonight's challenge ends at 7pm EST not 10pm EST. Not sure if anyone else didn't notice that. Could be important.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm on board with the theme that's been proposed, not least because we already seem to be off to a flying start on the acrostic, limerick, and haiku.

[Tyrith]

I know that regardless of what theme we pick I am not going to be a lot of help writing; I have extremely big mental blocks in the way here. However, I will try to do what I can, and offer all the advice and helpful thoughts I can.

[Alan T]

I think idea number 3 would be a lot easier to write about.

My other suggestion is to use the "Mannings" as a topic. Everyone seems to get a kick out of either good or bad Manning stuff.

I think the mannings could be a fun theme, and wouldn't mind that either. I think after other people bringing up the fact we don't know who the judges will be, idea #3 might not be great. Ie: what if one of the judges is someone who doesn't think that theme is very funny or takes offense to it for some weird reason. We probably don't want to alienate the judges accidentally :)

Sounds like everyone is in favor of #2 other than Gramm. I would like to get a theme decided on though, and am pretty flexible either way. Gramm do you object to #2, or just prefer the others more? Anyone else prefer to do a different one from #2?

[Tyrith]

I think Mannings would have been a more funny theme if we could still mock Peyton for being a loser, but that option was taken away from us (thank goodness, because maybe people will get over their Tom Brady man crushes a little).

[Grammaticus]

If number two is what you guys want, I'll go with the flow. But I'm warning you, I have been thinking about content to write and I've got nothin on that subject. So I will likely be of little assistance.

[Passacaglia]

Mannings would be fun, but I still prefer offseason.

[Tyrith]

I say we make Alan do most of the content and then just harass him when he screws up :)

[Alan T]

If number two is what you guys want, I'll go with the flow. But I'm warning you, I have been thinking about content to write and I've got nothin on that subject. So I will likely be of little assistance.


I am pretty indifferent either way on what we choose. I just want us to choose something sooner than later is all. Sounds like right now the top 3 ideas are: Werewolf are second class citizen theme, time between football and baseball season and the mannings.

I think after hearing people's opinion on the WW theme, I'm not for that one anymore. I probably would rather do the seasonal theme over the manning theme only because of the time I spent on the Acrostic :) But I don't mind either.

Maybe we can just do this: Have everyone post which of the two they would prefer (manning or seasonal), and then post if they would be ok doing the other if they are in the minority? We can decide in the next 90 min or so hopefully? Sounds like most everyone is ok with the seasonal theme, but if people would rather do mannings we should.

[Alan T]

I say we make Alan do most of the content and then just harass him when he screws up :)

I'll just buy the Mannings rhyme book.

Hey peyton your commercials are a hit,
I wish vs my falcons you played like sh.... err nevermind.

[Alan T]

Just trying to think of manning poems right now. Would we focus more on the good manning vs bad manning as in Eli vs Peyton?

[Passacaglia]

I haven't put much thought into what we could write for either theme. I think we can all agree that none of us are going to be great writers or anything, but between us, we can put something together. I still have a slight preference toward the offseason, but I'm sure once we get rolling, we could do good work for either theme.

[Alan T]

hmmm


Their dad was a New Orleans saint
He played ball without any constraint
He showed them his ability,
and tought them civility
And now Indy fans have no complaint.


Eh, don't think this is as good. I'm having a tougher time figuring out ways to link the mannings here without getting into the brady vs manning thing of which probably would be dangerous to take a side on depending on who our judges are.

[Alan T]

The biggest limitaiton on some themes I think is the size of the poems themselves. If you include names in the poem to reference your theme, you eat up alot of the syllables already.

[Tyrith]

I like the offseason theme because it gives us more flexibility to be both funny and just write solid poems (like the one Alan did earlier) instead of shoehorning ourselves into a situation where we have to be funny and we have to take a side someone might not like.

[Grammaticus]

Here is a quick limerick on both subject:


There once was a fan from Green Bay
His team was grand and past its heyday
He stopped for some chow
Riding upn his old plow
If Brett could pitch, He’d love May day

There once was a Manning from York
He threw too high and cost a lot of pork
He held up the green
And said, looking lean
Phil Simms is a short little dork

[Tyrith]

I have to admit that the second one is funny, but I don't know if that's because of where I go to school and the fact that I'll take any chance to crack on Phil Simms.

[Alan T]

I think both of Gramm's limmericks were far better than any of the limmericks I did. Every time I try to think of a limmerick, I always end up at there once was a man from nantucket.

[Passacaglia]

I don't think I get the second one.

[Lathum]

I was thinking of a ryming poem about the off season involving all the playoff teams

[Lathum]

The colts did the job in week one
and Romo became all thumbs
The eagles flew high
and the jets took a dive

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
and the Saints were led marching by Drew
Marty was Marty
and DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbecks party

Peyton took over week three
casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady
Bears D came to play
and Reggie, Drew and Duece had to call it a day

then it was time for week four
Devon and the Bears sprinted through the door
Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And in the end of it all the Colts were riding high


Just a rough draft if you guys wanna try to work off of it or just scrap it.

[Grammaticus]

The colts did the job in week one
and Romo became all thumbs
The eagles flew high
and the jets took a dive

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
and the Saints were led marching by Drew
Marty was Marty
and DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbecks party

Peyton took over week three
casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady
Bears D came to play
and Reggie, Drew and Duece had to call it a day

then it was time for week four
Devon and the Bears sprinted through the door
Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And in the end of it all the Colts were riding high


Just a rough draft if you guys wanna try to work off of it or just scrap it.

I think it is pretty good, but it has nothing to do with the time between football and baseball.

[Passacaglia]

That's really good -- although it seems more like a playoff theme, than an offseason theme.

[Alan T]

I think thats a pretty good poem Lathum, the only problem though is I don't know if it matches any of the current theme choices. Its more of a playoff theme poem which is fine if we want to go that way.

I think the problem is we need to settle on a theme once and for all. None of us wants to be the bad guy to come out and put their foot down, and its a bit unwieldy to take a vote on what we want. But we honestly need to decide on a theme soonish whatever it is.

I honestly don't care what we want as a theme, I'll work with it. We just need to decide soon :)

[Alan T]

Anyone have any suggestions on how to decide on a theme?

How about everyone list their #1 choice, and the #2 choice. We can see who gets the most and just go with that. Will that work with everyone? We're all here right now it seems except Mr.W and he gave his thoughts earlier.

[Lathum]

does it say we have to have a specific theme? Can we just say something as generic as sports or football?

[Alan T]

Yeah, we have to choose a theme to base all of our poems on. We could probably pick a pretty generic theme, but I bet it will get points off or not score as well as a specific theme will.



C'mon in Survivors.

I hope you had a nice night. I want to thank those of you who volunteered. Of course those who were chosen now are a little more evil than before, but let's not let that bother us.

On to today's reward challenge. In Werewolf words are important. It's how you decide who might be a wolf or how a wolf can save himself (or herself) from getting the ax. Today's challenge will test your abilities to use words. Each tribe is to pick a theme and you will then write four poems on that theme.

One poem will be an acrostic of at least 6 lines, one a limerick, one an 8-20 line poem with a rhyme scheme, and one a haiku.

The poems are due by 7 PM today here in the thread. You may post your poems all at once or separately as the day goes on, but once a poem is posted it may not be changed.

Today you'll be playing for something that can save you here on Werewolf Island. I have here two Werewolf Idols. One of them is filled with Wolfbane and will prevent a Werewolf attack from being successful. The other is useless. The winning tribe will decide, in their Tribal Thread, who gets these two Idols. After that the possessor of the Idols may keep or pass, publicly or privately, the Idols.

There might even be some celebrity judges coming to take a look at your poems, so I'd get to work.

Survivors ready? Go!

[Grammaticus]

Personally,

1 - Mannings
2 - No Respect for WW
3 - Specific NFL team (any team, does not matter which)
4 - Playoffs (no specific year, just any playoff content is fair game)
5 - Time between Football and Baseball

[Tyrith]

I'm mostly ambivalent at this point...I liked the time between thing because we already had a good start, but I would just like to do something we can write good stuff for.

[Alan T]

I'm mostly ambivalent at this point...I liked the time between thing because we already had a good start, but I would just like to do something we can write good stuff for.


I am not too worried about the head start. most of the stuff we can write in a short time on really any topic. Mostly worried about picking a topic where we dont end up bashing a judge's team/player or putting someone on a pedestal who the judges hate or despise.

So think Chicago bears bashing or Patriots bashing or Colts lauding or such would be bad. Same with Brady bashing, manning glorifying etc. Would hate to lose points just because we picked the wrong target to make fun of :)

If people would rather go a different direction, its ok with me.. should just decide is all.

[Alan T]

Every time I try to think of a limerick about the mannings, it ends up being about adam vineteri instead. :)

[Alan T]

Gramm, you seem to really be pushing the mannings more than anyone else is pushing something. I am just having a problem putting my head around this theme, can you explain a little more about what you think it should be involving?

I find it very hard to have a relationship between Peyton and Eli fit into either a haiku or a limmerick. With the other two poems, we could easily enough though. How do you forsee having a limmerick or haiku demonstrating the good manning vs bad manning angle you wanted?

I think thats my biggest issue with this theme, we'll end up with 4 poems that don't transition well. THey will end up being 4 entirely different poems than 4 poems on one theme.

[Tyrith]

I just don't feel comfortable making this decision because I'm not really going to be writing this stuff...I am more than willing and ready to help evaluate options, but if we're going to make a decision soon it's probably going to have to come from you, Alan, in consultation with the rest of us.

[Passacaglia]

My #1 choice -- offseason
My #2 choice -- playoffs

[Alan T]

I just don't feel comfortable making this decision because I'm not really going to be writing this stuff...I am more than willing and ready to help evaluate options, but if we're going to make a decision soon it's probably going to have to come from you, Alan, in consultation with the rest of us.

Thats the thing, I honestly don't care what the theme is. I tossed out ideas in hopes that others would also and we could pick one. Gramm came with an idea, Lathum had the playoff idea. Both of them are fine with me.

I think far more important in deciding the theme isn't the ability to write poems, its making sure the theme can blend across the four types of poems.

For instance, I was a little suprised when people jumped out liking the offseason one since I think that was my least favorite of the ones I thought of.

I think the WW theme is a bad idea since we might alienate someone which will hurt our score.

I am having problems with the manning theme for the reasons I said above, so wouldnt mind gramm's feedback on it.

I like the 2006 NFL playoff theme alot, but similar problems with how do you make a haiku on the 2006 nfl playoffs? Just not enough words in the haiku to do it. Your haiku would end up being about the cowboys vs seattle game instead of the 2006 playoffs or something.

I think we need a specific theme that you can write alot about to succeed here. Like for instance, I have been spending time trying to think of how to narrow down the mannings theme more. I dont see how you can do Peyton and Eli both in a haiku. You probably need to pick a more specific theme and then elaborate in the longer poems.

For instance if you narrow the mannings down to a more specific theme of Peyton manning you then in your longer poem and Acrostic can reference Eli or Archie or the Unniversity of Tennessee or whatever. But you won't be tied down in the shorter poems in trying to fit the theme in.

[Alan T]

Hmm for a playoff theme haiku perhaps:

Twelve teams with one goal
to win the championship --
The Colts reign supreme.

[Passacaglia]

Peyton and Eli
More annoying than father
Please stop media

[Grammaticus]

I think we are overthinking the blending and the potential to piss of someone. If the content is funny, witty, entertaining, etc. Nobody is going to sink you on the topic.

You don't have to tell ONE story across all the poems. You just have to have the same theme. The teme is background.

[Passacaglia]

I like your playoff theme. Just keeping it simple.

[Alan T]

A playoff limmerick:

Brady, Tomlinson and Mcnair
all play with a certain flair.
But Manning stepped in,
He knew how to win
to survive a first half patriot scare.

[Passacaglia]

I meant, I like your playoff haiku.

[Alan T]

I think I like the playoff theme more as I spend time thinking of poems. Anyone object to doing it on the playoffs?

[Grammaticus]

In the haiku we need to reference a season or natural (elements) word.....I think.

[Alan T]

In the haiku we need to reference a season or natural (elements) word.....I think.


Thats right, forgot about that.

[Tyrith]

The playoff theme also seems simple but quite workable to me. It gives us a lot of creativity to make differing kinds of snarky remarks -- we can still talk about Brady, Manning, Vinateri et all -- while keeping it board relevant. It also gives us the ability to stray a little more than the other topics might have.

[Alan T]

Twelve teams with one goal
to win in the bitter cold --
The Colts reign supreme.

[Grammaticus]

Haiku:

As the wind does blow
Across Joe Robbie stadium, I see
Colts reign supreme in Victory

[Grammaticus]

The winter day is long, yet short
Elway waites and is rewarded
A Superbowl champion he is awarded

[Grammaticus]

Or if you are concerned the Superbowl is not the playoffs:

The winter day is long, yet short
Elway waites and is rewarded
The drive and a trip to the show is awarded

[Passacaglia]

A haiku is 5/7/5, Gram.

[Alan T]

Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries and frowns
Adam Vinateri kicking against old foes
Young Bears fans cheering on the pros
Offense is the key to the Saints win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Football played by the Eagles, Ravens and Bolts
Superbowl champs were the Colts

[Grammaticus]

Limerick:

From Stanford, there once was an Elway
He was stubborn and fancied himself king of the day
Rather a baseball whore
Than to play in Baltimore
A ticket to Denver and the post season he would play

[Grammaticus]

A haiku is 5/7/5, Gram.

Is that hard and fast? The site I read said it was approximately 5/7/5? If it is hard and fast, that will make this one more difficult, whew.

[Alan T]

The traditional Haiku is 5/7/5. Much westernized haiku doesn't follow that rule though, but Path asked in the challenge thread if its stuck to the 5/7/5 for the judging, but barkeep hasnt replied to it yet.

[Passacaglia]

Is that hard and fast? The site I read said it was approximately 5/7/5? If it is hard and fast, that will make this one more difficult, whew.

It sounds like there are variations, but 5/7/5 is what I think most elementary schools teach. Path asked Barkeep about it in the common thread, but he hasn't answered.

[Tyrith]

I'd stick to 5/7/5 haiku if you can.

The acrostic is pretty decent, but the last two lines feel kind of weak -- there's no real action behind them. I don't have any ideas on how to fix it, though, so maybe I should be quiet.

[Alan T]

Hmm how about this change:

Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries and frowns
Adam Vinateri kicking against old foes
Young Chargers fans cheering on the pros
Offense is the key to the Saints win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Five turnovers were the Bears' demise
So we finally watched Manning claim the prize.

[Tyrith]

I like that ending much better. Only change might be to take the word "finally" out of the last line to make the tempo work better, but that's pretty good.

[Grammaticus]

1981 Chargers
Passing, running, the Chargers have great flair
Let the games begin, Coryell says “to the air”
An overtime win and the fins take a seat
Young Fouts presses on and with Cincy tastes defeat
Out of nowhere, new unis and all, came Kenny and crew
Fair Chargers score abound, yet on defense they are poo
For yet another season, the bolts must watch the show
Sad but true, the Chargers faithful reach for the hoe

[Alan T]

Ok, so if we are running with a 2006 playoff theme, looking at Lathum's poem from earlier. A few nitpicky things I have:

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The colts did the job in week one
and Romo became all thumbs
The eagles flew high
and the jets took a dive

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
and the Saints were led marching by Drew
Marty was Marty
and DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbecks party

Peyton took over week three
casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady
Bears D came to play
and Reggie, Drew and Duece had to call it a day

then it was time for week four
Devon and the Bears sprinted through the door
Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And in the end of it all the Colts were riding high

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You have a Couplet rhyming scheme which is AA BB CC DD EE FF GG. I could be wrong here, but I believe for couplets you need to split up the different Rhymes. So the last 4 lines would be:

Then it was time for week four
Devon and the Bears sprinted through the door

Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And in the end of it all the Colts were riding high.


I like the poem overall, and am fine going with it, the only real issue is the first four lines. THe part I bolded needs to rhyme. That would mean one <---> thumbs and high <---> dive need to rhyme with each other. Perhaps its my accent, but here I don't think they do. Maybe we can rewrite the first 4 lines a bit to rhyme closer. Those four words are close, but not rhymes I don't believe.

Something like this:

In week one the Chiefs were bums
and Romo became all thumbs

The eagles looked alive
and the jets took a dive.

[Alan T]

Another limmerick:

In Indy, they couldn't win the big game,
All of the fans thought it was ashame.
But Manning ran the board
and Dungy thanked the Lord,
all of the Bears fans said Rex was to blame.

[Alan T]

by the way, any criticism or comments I make is nothing personal. I know for my stuff I would love for other comments on how to fix it up. I'm just trying to help out.

I appreciate the effort people have put in with throwing out ideas for themes as well as putting together poems. This is much better than one of the teams (Don't remember which) who I think their thread has had 1 or 2 posts all day so far. I think if I was on that team i would be really frustrated by now.

[Grammaticus]

Oh, you want to go specifically with the 2006 playoffs.

[Alan T]

Oh, you want to go specifically with the 2006 playoffs.


Well was just basing it off of Lathum's original poem which was a break down of the 2006 playoffs. I figured that was a pretty broad topic that could be narrowed down on. If everyone wants to make it more open, then its fine with me. I only really have 2-3 more hours left of contribution though before I'll be busy most of the night. I mainly was just trying to figure what I could put out in that time.

[Tyrith]

I'd say 2006 because that's where a couple of the poems are going and having one thing out of a group not fit is likely to get noticed.

[Passacaglia]

I say 2006 -- it's more specific, and there's still plenty to work with.

[Alan T]

So based on a 2006 playoffs theme, this is what I have so far. Lathum, my apologies if you don't like, but I incorperated my changes to your poem. I don't know if I am happy with either of the Limmericks I wrote. The Limmerick is supposed to be funny, rough humor type of poem at times. Mine seem too standard and dull. Does anyone want to take a shot at a funny limmerick based on the 2006 playoffs? (or any of the other ones for that matter)

Limmericks:

#1
Brady, Tomlinson and Mcnair
all play with a certain flair.
But Manning stepped in,
He knew how to win
to survive a first half patriot scare.

#2
In Indy, they couldn't win the big game,
All of the fans thought it was ashame.
But Manning ran the board
and Dungy thanked the Lord,
all of the Bears fans said Rex was to blame.


Haikus

#1
Twelve teams with one goal
to win in the bitter cold --
The Colts reign supreme.

Acrostic:

#1
Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries and frowns
Adam Vinateri kicking against old foes
Young Chargers fans cheering on the pros
Offense is the key to the Saints win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Five turnovers were the Bears' demise
So we watched Manning claim the prize.

Rhyming scheme:
#1
In week one the Chiefs were bums
and Romo became allthumbs

The eagles looked alive
and the jets took a dive.

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
and the Saints were led marching by Drew

Marty was Marty
and DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbecks party

Peyton took over week three
casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady

Bears D came to play
and Reggie, Drew and Duece had to call it a day

then it was time for week four
Devon and the Bears sprinted through the door

Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And in the end of it all the Colts were riding high

[Tyrith]

The limericks are the only ones that really concern me, right now, as Alan mentioned. I really like the others, for the most part. The rhyming scheme poem has one line I think needs adjustment right now -- the "and Reggie, Drew, and Deuce had to call it a day." I'd get rid of one of the words, probably the first and, to make the line slightly shorter.

[Passacaglia]

How about getting rid of Drew? He was already mentioned earlier.

[Passacaglia]

And I agree about the limericks. Maybe something about black coaches? Or Tank Johnson?

[Tyrith]

That would also work, getting rid of the players makes it flow nicely as well.

[Passacaglia]

Heh, I was about to rip on hoopsguy for being in our thread, but it turns out he's not in this game! Whoops.

[Tyrith]

Personally it wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the judges. And if he is the kind of humor we have going on would work pretty decently, I think.

[Lathum]

alan,

I like the changes made
and all the plans we have laid
I enjoy the theme of 2006
and all our peoms are easy to fix

[Lathum]

dola- just a heads up it is snowing pretty hard here and they think we could lose power so if I dissapear thats where I went.

[Passacaglia]

Grammar nazi here...just in case such things count. My changes are in our team color, orange.

#1
Brady, Tomlinson and McNair
All play with a certain flair.
But Manning stepped in,
He knew how to win,
To survive a first half patriot scare.

#2
In Indy, they couldn't win the big game,
All of the fans thought it was a shame.
But Manning ran the board
And Dungy thanked the Lord,
All of the Bears fans said Rex was to blame.


Haikus

#1
Twelve teams with one goal
To win in the bitter cold --
The Colts reign supreme.

Acrostic:

#1
Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries, and frowns
Adam Vinatieri kicking against old foes
Young Chargers' fans cheering on the pros
Offense is the key to the Saints' win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Five turnovers were the Bears' demise
So we watched Manning claim the prize.

Rhyming scheme:
#1
In week one the Chiefs were bums
And Romo became all thumbs

The Eagles looked alive
And the Jets took a dive.

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
And the Saints were led marching by Drew

Marty was Marty
And DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbeck's party

Peyton took over week three
Aasting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady

Bears D came to play
And Reggie, Drew and Duece had to call it a day

Then it was time for week four
Devin and the Bears sprinted through the door

Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And at the end of it all the Colts were riding high

[Passacaglia]

Doh, I forgot to fix "Deuce" in my changes.

[Passacaglia]

And maybe in the acrostic, offense *was* the key to the Saints' win.

[Passacaglia]

And I meant to make a capital C for Casting, not Aasting :P

[Lathum]

I would make a couple of small changes

ORIGINAL

In Indy, they couldn't win the big game,
All of the fans thought it was a shame.
But Manning ran the board
And Dungy thanked the Lord,
All of the Bears fans said Rex was to blame.


CHANGED

Indy couldn't win the big game,
All of the fans thought it was a shame.
Manning ran the board
Dungy thanked the Lord,
All of the Bears fans said Rex was to blame.

[Alan T]

Just in case anyone didn't notice:

I would stick with the traditional format of 5/7/5 as the requirement. I applaud, and hope the judges recognize, the tribe(s) that go beyond even that in adherence to traditional forms.


So we want to make sure we stick strictly to haiku formatting and traditions probably.

I'm midway through writing another sonnet, but have been tied up on a conference call for a bit. I'll finish it up and submit it but I have no problem with Lathum's also. Just trying to toss in other possibilities. I think we really need a good funny limmerick though

[Alan T]

dola, thanks for the grammar changes Pass. I stink at Grammar :)

[Lathum]

So are we in agreement to go with everything BUT the limiriks includng the grammer changes?

[Alan T]

Sure, I'm ok with the rest. Trying to think of a limmerick, but this conf call keeps messing up my train of thought :)

[Lathum]

I have no problem with the one I referenced above

[Alan T]

There once was a tall QB named Drew,
who went to Dallas and played like poo.
Romo saved the day,
Cowboy saivour they say,
Until the extra point snap flew threw.

[Alan T]

err that should be flew through not threw.. .darn grammar.

[Lathum]

There once was a QB named Drew,
went to Dallas and played like poo.
Romo saved the day,
Cowboy saivour they say,
Until the extra point snap flew through.

small changes

[Passacaglia]

Sounds good, Alan. My one grammar change is to spell it as saviour.

[Alan T]

Some other things I wonder.. is it more advantageous to get our stuff in earlier or later. Would it hurt us if another team is using a similar theme if we put our stuff out there after them. Would it hurt us to put our stuff out earlier where it gives others ideas?

[Passacaglia]

I like Lathum's idea of getting rid of 'tall' as well -- I'm indifferent to whether or not 'who' should stay.

[Alan T]

I think who needs to be in there. Is it supposed to be whom or who there though? Without that word it sounds awkward.

[Alan T]

Also do you all like this limerick better than the other two? I just don't know if its as funny as I would like is all.

[Lathum]

I don't see how the timing would hurt. I think we should select one person responsible for posting the final product when we are done so someone is responsible. Alan, will you be around?

[Lathum]

any objections to Alan posting the final product?

[Alan T]

I am heading home from work in a bit, but I will be around until deadline tonight. I just won't have as much poetry writing time when I get home tonight.

Last night I was already getting weird looks for looking for football players in hula hoops. She'll think I've really changed if suddenly I come home writing poetry. :)

I would like to hear more input from Mr.W who I see in the thread now, and more stuff from gramm too when he gets back. Gramm was writing some good stuff earlier on. I don't want to leave him out.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I have no objections.

I'm not sure if I like any of the limericks better than the others. With the current one, I like the rhythm better if you don't drop the "who" on line 2.

[Tyrith]

I think we should wait as long as possible to post. I could be around until 5 CST or so.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Haiku FYI:
I would stick with the traditional format of 5/7/5 as the requirement. I applaud, and hope the judges recognize, the tribe(s) that go beyond even that in adherence to traditional forms.

[Alan T]

So right now this is our current top choices for each with the grammar and other wording changes:

Limerick:

There once was a QB named Drew,
Who went to Dallas and played like poo.
Romo saved the day,
Cowboy saivour they say,
Until the extra point snap flew through.


Haiku:


Twelve teams with one goal
To win in the bitter cold --
The Colts reign supreme.

Acrostic:


Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries, and frowns
Adam Vinatieri kicking against old foes
Young Chargers' fans cheering on the pros
Offense was the key to the Saints' win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Five turnovers were the Bears' demise
So we watched Manning claim the prize.

Rhyming scheme:

In week one the Chiefs were bums
And Romo became all thumbs

The Eagles looked alive
And the Jets took a dive.

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
And the Saints were led marching by Drew

Marty was Marty
And DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbeck's party

Peyton took over week three
Casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady

Bears D came to play
And Reggie, Drew and Deuce had to call it a day

Then it was time for week four
Devin and the Bears sprinted through the door

Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And at the end of it all the Colts were riding high

[Alan T]

I think we should wait as long as possible to post. I could be around until 5 CST or so.


I am heading home in like 5 minutes. but will be back around 5:45pm EST until deadline.

[Grammaticus]

Here is a Limerick

There once was a Manning from Indy
His performance was grand, like the triple lindy
He took the snap
And said with a slap
That Grossman chap throws like a girl named Wendy

[Passacaglia]

Some more changes, Alan.

In the limerick, spell it "saviour"

In the acrostic, get rid of the orange in my commas.

In the rhyming scheme poem, be consistent with periods -- either get rid of the one after the second couplet, or put one at the end of each couplet.

[Passacaglia]

Although, as for limericks, I still like the one where Indy couldn't win the big game best.

[Grammaticus]

Here is another option:

2006 Bears
Playing with heart, the Bears win with defensive flair
Let the game begin, Lovie says “pray for us Bears” do not dispair
An overtime win and the fowl hawks take a seat
Young Grossman presses on and Da Bears drop the Aints with heat
Out of the driving rain, came Peyton Manning and crew
Fair Bears drop the ball abound and play D like poo
For yet another year, it’s the Cubs for the windy city
Sad but true, Bears fans must now watch the 85 Super Bowl diddy

[Grammaticus]

What is our plan on finalizing and posting in the challenge thread?

[Passacaglia]

I think we're set with what was in Alan's post. Just waiting on him to get back, which should be any minute now..

[Passacaglia]

Some more changes, Alan.

In the limerick, spell it "saviour"

In the acrostic, get rid of the orange in my commas.

In the rhyming scheme poem, be consistent with periods -- either get rid of the one after the second couplet, or put one at the end of each couplet.

Actually, dictionary.com lists both savior and saviour as correct, but savior is its main entry, so maybe we should go with that.

[Grammaticus]

So right now this is our current top choices for each with the grammar and other wording changes:

[
Haiku:


Twelve teams with one goal
To win in the bitter cold --
The Colts reign supreme.

[

For the Haiku, I think you should change cold to wind or rain. I don't think cold is actually an element word. If the judges stick to the stringent standard as BK hopes they do, that could be a problem.

[Tyrith]

I would be okay with rain in the haiku. Just someone make sure this gets posted in the next 56 minutes. I am out for a while.

[Alan T]

I am here until deadline. so everyone is ok with the latest post with pass's corrections? Want me to post now, or wait some?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Change "bitter cold" to "driving rain"?

Same number of syllables.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, but "bitter cold" works better in the context of the entire poem, which talks about the twelve teams.

If you need an element, rather than a temperature, maybe "winter snows".

[Alan T]

Limerick:

There once was a QB named Drew,
Who went to Dallas and played like poo.
Romo saved the day,
Cowboy saivour they say,
Until the extra point snap flew through.


Haiku:


Twelve teams with one goal
To win in the bitter rain --
The Colts reign supreme.

Acrostic:


Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries , and frowns
Adam Vinatieri kicking against old foes
Young Chargers' fans cheering on the pros
Offense was the key to the Saints' win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Five turnovers were the Bears' demise
So we watched Manning claim the prize.

Rhyming scheme:

In week one the Chiefs were bums
And Romo became all thumbs.

The Eagles looked alive
And the Jets took a dive.

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
And the Saints were led marching by Drew.

Marty was Marty
And DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbeck's party.

Peyton took over week three
Casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady.

Bears D came to play
And Reggie, Drew and Deuce had to call it a day.

Then it was time for week four
Devin and the Bears sprinted through the door.

Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And at the end of it all the Colts were riding high.

[Passacaglia]

I like either bitter cold or winter snows.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Could be "snow" or "snows", at that.

[Grammaticus]

I like my limerick better. It is funnier ;)

[Passacaglia]

We still need it to say "saviour" not "saivour"

The comma needs to be right after cries in the acrostic -- cheers, cries, and frowns

If we're keeping Drew in the week three line of the rhyming scheme, it should be
And Reggie, Drew, and Deuce had to call it a day.
But I like
And Reggie and Deuce had to call it a day.

[Passacaglia]

Could be "snow" or "snows", at that.


whatevs

[Alan T]

Well when I said bitter cold I was trying to both give a weather atmosphere needed in a haiku and a descriptor of the snow often football playoffs are in. I guess we need a consensus one way or another for this. :)

[Passacaglia]

Well when I said bitter cold I was trying to both give a weather atmosphere needed in a haiku and a descriptor of the snow often football playoffs are in. I guess we need a consensus one way or another for this. :)

I wouldn't sweat it. Where does it say we need this nature reference anyway?

[Grammaticus]

from Wiki

Haiku (俳句, ?) listen (help·info) is a mode of Japanese poetry, the late 19th century revision by Masaoka Shiki of the older hokku (発句, hokku?), the opening verse of a linked verse form, haikai no renga. The traditional hokku consisted of a pattern of approximately 5, 7, 5 on. The Japanese word on, meaning "sound", corresponds to a mora, a phonetic unit similar but not identical to the syllable of a language such as English. (The words onji, ("sound symbol") or moji (character symbol) are also sometimes used.) A haiku contains a special season word (the kigo) representative of the season in which the renga is set, or a reference to the natural world.
Hokku usually combine two (or rarely, three) different phrases, with a distinct grammatical break (kireji) usually at the end of either the first five or second seven morae. These elements of the older hokku are considered by many to be essential to haiku as well, although they are not always included by modern writers of Japanese "free-form haiku" and of non-Japanese haiku. Japanese haiku are typically written as a single line, while English language haiku are traditionally separated into three lines.

In Japanese, nouns do not have different singular and plural forms, so 'haiku' is usually used as both a singular and plural noun in English as well.

[Alan T]

I wouldn't sweat it. Where does it say we need this nature reference anyway?


Its just a traditional part of a haiku. The same as having the haiku split into two parts. (which ours is). Perhaps its not necessary but Barkeep aluded to perhaps having bonus points for it.

We need to decide on the final wording for bitter cold, bitter rain, winter snow.

Need to decide if we leave drew in the long poem or not.

Need to decide if we want to swap out limericks.

I'm ok with leaving drew in and staying with this limerick. As for the wording of bitter cold, rain, winter snow I don't really care too much one way or another. Winter snow might reach the descriptive weather the best though.

[Grammaticus]

Cold is probably a good enough reference to the natural world, but Japanese would probably use something more directly linked to an element or the reference the season itself.

Either way, it is what it is.

[Alan T]

Ok getting some dinner with the lady. I'll be back in about 10-15 min or so to post this up before deadline. I think I like winter snows better on the haiku so will change it to that unless someone objects.

If we want to swap out the limerick or take out drew someone make a call on it.

[Passacaglia]

how about "winter cold"? It didn't snow everywhere.

[Grammaticus]

I don't think the Drew thing matters at all, I say leave him in.

I would swap the Limerick.

[Mr. Wednesday]

We could make it "winter cold" or "winter chill" too...

[Passacaglia]

Keep the limerick as it is for now, I say. As for Drew, i don't care, as long as you fix the comma.

[Grammaticus]

how about "winter cold"? It didn't snow everywhere.

Works for me.

[Passacaglia]

Since no one seems to feel too strongly about it, I'm going to step up and say we should take Drew out.

And Reggie and Deuce had to call it a day.

[Alan T]

Ok, last updates. I took out Drew since Pass seems to feel strongly about it. Made the color and other grammar updates requested. (even though the color doesnt matter since I have to post it all in orange anyways). Changed it to winter cold, and left the limerick unchanged since its probably too last minute to swap it out and make grammar changes on it.

Limerick:

There once was a QB named Drew,
Who went to Dallas and played like poo.
Romo saved the day,
Cowboy saviour they say,
Until the extra point snap flew through.


Haiku:


Twelve teams with one goal
To win in the winter cold --
The Colts reign supreme.

Acrostic:


Playoffs never let us down
Lots of cheers, cries, and frowns
Adam Vinatieri kicking against old foes
Young Chargers' fans cheering on the pros
Offense was the key to the Saints' win
Fumbling a snap was Romo's chagrin
Five turnovers were the Bears' demise
So we watched Manning claim the prize.

Rhyming scheme:

In week one the Chiefs were bums
And Romo became all thumbs.

The Eagles looked alive
And the Jets took a dive.

Vinatieri shined bright in week two
And the Saints were led marching by Drew.

Marty was Marty
And DA BEARS spoiled Hasselbeck's party.

Peyton took over week three
Casting aside all the demons AND Tom Brady.

Bears D came to play
And Reggie and Deuce had to call it a day.

Then it was time for week four
Devin and the Bears sprinted through the door.

Peyton didn't even bat an eye
And at the end of it all the Colts were riding high.


Please do a final review to make sure I caught everything. I will post in 8 minutes if so.

[Passacaglia]

Looks great, Alan!

[Alan T]

Last call, speak now or forever hold your peace!

[Alan T]

Ok posting now with 10 min left. we'll be the first team to post. good luck all! Thanks everyone for the contributions.

[Passacaglia]

Heading home -- goooooooooooooo Helsing!

[Lathum]

works for me guys, good job working together!

[Alan T]

Wow, really glad we didnt choose the WW theme. looks like 2/3 of the other teams did that without knowing what the fourth team did. :)

[Lathum]

Lupus' are pretty good. The rhyming one was funny

[Lathum]

dola- Howards also. I think our theme could help set us apart but not knowing the judges it is tough to say

[Lathum]

so is there no elimination tonight?

[Alan T]

The two tribes who lost yesterday have to vote someone out tonight. then I guess Werewolves strike some time after that. Not sure when today's challenge winners are announced.

[Grammaticus]

I think Howards gets the nod.

[Lathum]

theirs was good

[Grammaticus]

I like the way Oz gave each piece of work a title. Even though the content was not very strong, the title was a nice touch.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I think each set of submissions has strengths and weaknesses.

[Grammaticus]

I think it will be:

1-Howard
2-Helsing
3-Oz
4-The Blue team

[Passacaglia]

Just skimmed them -- good call with the season reference, guys -- we were the only one!

[Lathum]

Howard had some kind of late flurry, we were way ahead of them.

[Lathum]

dola- in post count

[Barkeep49]

Here's the timetable: As soon as I have the judge's scores, hopefully by 10, I'll post the results.

Two people are also voted off tonight. The wolves, the seer, and any other roles, do their business between 10 and 9 and tomorrow we have an immunity challenge.

[Lathum]

at least it was a reward challange

[Grammaticus]

No offense, but I told you we should have swapped the Limerick.....

[Lathum]

No offense, but I told you we should have swapped the Limerick.....

it wouldn't have made a difference, we lost by 8 points.

[Lathum]

dola- I guess if we got higher scores from all 3 we could have pulled it out.

[Grammaticus]

it wouldn't have made a difference, we lost by 8 points.

Not the point, but nevermind.

[Barkeep49]

Tree mail
Tomorrow you have to vote
And not a second late
For that will decide your fate
And which tribe will gloat
And for which it might be the last date

[Grammaticus]

Is it a team vote or an individual vote?

[Alan T]

Sounds like tommorrow we have to vote for something and have to do it fast. Seems like quickest response wins type of thing perhaps?

[Grammaticus]

BK says it is our tribe that needs to know. Maybe we need to try and have coverage in the thread without gaps to hit a quick response??

[Alan T]

I will be around pretty much like today. Here from 9am EsT until 4:30pm EST at work. I usually have a 15-30 min response time max on most things during the day. I think today we had alot of daytime activity so hopefully we do well tommorrow.

[Lathum]

I'll be around from around 11:00 EST until 3:30 EST then again after 9:00

[Tyrith]

I should be able to do 9 am CST until about 5 CST but there will be some 15-30 minute gaps for a while.

[Alan T]

Sounds like we need some early evening coverage still.

[Passacaglia]

I'll be around from 9 am Central to 5 pm Central, out for lunch at 12 to 12:30. Maybe we should rock the vote early.

[Alan T]

Well looks like we're depending on mr.w or gramm to cover the after 5 time frame. I wish I could today, but promised that I would go out tonight shopping for my daughter's bday on friday. I doubt I will be home in time to matter

[Tyrith]

Yeah, I can stay until maybe 6 CST, but that's it. I hope that this isn't an all day posting war -- although if it is we're going to win the day round, so maybe I should be hoping for that.

[Grammaticus]

I can probably cover 5pm to about 7pm.

[Alan T]

Yeah, I can stay until maybe 6 CST, but that's it. I hope that this isn't an all day posting war -- although if it is we're going to win the day round, so maybe I should be hoping for that.


Well.. I kind of hope it is as we have a destinct advantage :)

[Alan T]

Looks like we have 10 minutes to talk strategy here. I can take the 9:53 time slot if its ok with everyone else. I think we should try to target someone on the other largest team to help our numbers in case it does something bad to the person. So that would be someone on Oz. because of the time thing, i think we should target someone who is less likely to be in on time or in the morning too.

Oz:
Ardent
Cronin
Raiders
Golden
Schmidty
ImtheCrew




Right now the most likely person who we can get a vote in before would be Schmidty, probably the most likely to have volunteered would be Ardent or St.cronin I think.

Any preferences on which to target? Need to talk quick. first deadline is under 10 min.

[Alan T]

Gramm I see you around. What do you think between Schmidty, Ardent or Cronin? Other possibilities would be to try to get a vote in before someone on another team who is going at this time to try to invalidate their vote.. but that seems like whistling in the wind a bit.

I think by heavily piling our votes in and getting the first vote each time on someone, we can keep our team safe.

[Grammaticus]

Do we want to assign rounds now?

[Alan T]

test

[Grammaticus]

Cronin said he wont be around until later, I say get him or Schmidty

[Alan T]

I would say we assign the next round each time before deadline passes. That way someone doesnt get a round they cant be here for. Or something doesnt come up.

[Alan T]

Cronin said he wont be around until later, I say get him or Schmidty

Lets do cronin then. He is more likely a wolf than Schmidty I think.

[Grammaticus]

I can take the 10:30a vote

[Grammaticus]

Do we get to vote whoever we want?

[Alan T]

Do we get to vote whoever we want?

Yep! I think we needed to focus on Oz since they are the other large team. only 20 seconds till my vote. I;ll go with cronin I guess

[Grammaticus]

Maybe we should try to vote for whever is in thread at the time, from the other team

[Barkeep49]

Do we get to vote whoever we want?
Yes

[Alan T]

Well got my vote in first at 9:53. Hope its a good one <.<

Kinda rough with only like 8 min to talk about it.

If you want 10:30 Gramm go for it. I guess we mainly need to make sure we keep our team safe and try to pick people who are likely wolves.

[Tyrith]

damnit alan, BOLD

[Alan T]

Wait, its not in bold?

Kwhit said that too. Its bold for me :(

[Grammaticus]

Alan, just repost it in Bold

[Tyrith]

Anyway, if Gramm is taking 1030 I can do one or two of the afternoon ones. There are nine votes total, we probably need to get Mr.W in whenever he's around, then work from there.

[Grammaticus]

Are we supposed to wait until BK makes a post, then we go? or do we just go on the time listed?

[Alan T]

Just go at the time that is stated.

[Tyrith]

Yes, repost, you can do that without nulling our points as long as it is you that does it. Wouldn't dare changing the vote though.