2007 MLS Thread

[Easy Mac]

MLS is essentially kicking off now, and since the 06-07 soccer thread seems to mainly be related to European soccer...

Spoiler for the Champions Cup.
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Houston lost 1-0
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486164

[lordscarlet]

I'd like to start following the MLS (DC United) this season.

[st.cronin]

David Beckham

[SirFozzie]

New England played their first preseason game last night, defeating the Bermudan National Team 3-1.

[Easy Mac]

I'm trying to keep up with the MLS news of the day here (http://cleatsheet.blogspot.com)

The links to stories only and none of my other random MLS stuff is here (http://cleatsheet.blogspot.com/search/label/daily%20news)

Basically, its a parsed version of any RSS reader.

[SirFozzie]

English papers have linked the Revolution with a move for Robbie Fowler. (it's from the Daily Mirror so take with a truckload of salt)

[marshall881]

Very nice result for DC last night. Gomez is pure class!

[lordscarlet]

So a big way I keep up with all of "my teams" is my MyESPN homepage. I went to add DC United and all they have to add is Soccer->Headlines

[Critch]

English papers have linked the Revolution with a move for Robbie Fowler. (it's from the Daily Mirror so take with a truckload of salt)

BBC website has that story now, so maybe the Mirror finally got something right. With Voronin heading to Liverpool, Fowler will be down to about 5th or 6th pick forward so a good time for him to move on.

[cthomer5000]

I attended a few Red Bulls games last year (2 or 3 including their lone home playoff game, i can't recall), and I'm attending at least 4 this time around, probably far more. Some friends and I picked up a 4-pack of tickets including the Beckham game and some of the other teams I'd like to see most (Houston, DC, and I forget who the 4th game is).

It's pretty likely I'll actually spring for season tickets in 2008 when the new stadium opens in Harrison, NJ. It will a breeze for me to get to relative to Giants Stadium, and I expect the atmosphere to be infinitely better. Finally a stadium that is easily reached by mass transit from both New Jersey and New York City!

This is a pretty solid MLS blog by writer Ives Galarcep, who is a writer for ESPN Soccernet and the NJ Herald. He covers a lot of league-wide stuff you never see actually make it to full "story" status, so it's pretty interesting, and he seems to add something daily. I think it's worth a look even for non-Red Bulls fans (though the blog is defintiely slanted towards local news).

http://njmg.typepad.com/sbi/

And I'm really eager to see what kind of job ESPN does with their Thursday night coverage, and almost more importantly highlights on sportscenter.

[Oilers9911]

I will be following Toronto FC this year. It is always fun to see an expansion team take shape. I'll probably attend a couple matches this year.

[cthomer5000]

Oh, and the second leg games for both Houston and DC United in the opening round of the Champions Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions%27_Cup_2007) are on Fox Soccer Channel this Thursday, live at 7PM and 9PM.

[Neuqua]

I'm strongly contemplating getting one of those partial season packages to the Chicago Fire this year. I have yet to visit the new stadium, Toyota Park, but hear it's an absolute beauty.

[SirFozzie]

Piss on the Fire! *clap clap clapclapclap*

Season Tickets are heading my way soon. Just about five weeks to opening day :)

[GoldenEagle]

I would be disappointed if the Revs DP slot goes to Robbie Fowler. I am not sure if he is type of name player they need to sign. First, they have enough firepower up front. If you do sign a striker with your DP, they are going to be better options come open than Fowler.

If you are a DC fan, Steven Goff's blog is pretty good. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/ It is just not restricted to DC United either. He covers the whole American soccer scene.

I also read MLS Underground on occasion - http://mlsunderground.blogspot.com

There are a couple of others I have in RSSOwl, but they I can not recall them right now.

[GoldenEagle]

According to the MLSZone, David Beckham has signed his first move deal. He will play an English solider in a WWI movie called Truce. The movie is of course, based around soccer. Full details here: http://themlszone.blogspot.com/2007/02/and-oscar-goes-to.html

[Easy Mac]

Oh, and the second leg games for both Houston and DC United in the opening round of the Champions Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions%27_Cup_2007) are on Fox Soccer Channel this Thursday, live at 7PM and 9PM.

Also online through certain channels which will not be mentioned aloud in the thread.

[Easy Mac]

According to the MLSZone, David Beckham has signed his first move deal. He will play an English solider in a WWI movie called Truce. The movie is of course, based around soccer. Full details here: http://themlszone.blogspot.com/2007/02/and-oscar-goes-to.html

Technically he had a speaking role in "Goal" and I know he was at least in Goal 2, though I only watched the first few minutes of it.

[Critch]

Also online through certain channels which will not be mentioned aloud in the thread.

Can they be whispered quietly?

[GoldenEagle]

Technically he had a speaking role in "Goal" and I know he was at least in Goal 2, though I only watched the first few minutes of it.

I need to rent those.

[Easy Mac]

I need to rent those.

no, no you don't. and the second is in theaters in Europe right now.

[marshall881]

Emiliano is looking like a force.
It will be interesting to see if he keeps anything close to this pace up once the season starts.

Congrats to the Dynamo for locking the second leg up at home.

[GoldenEagle]

I thought the Dynamo played well. Texas A&M was a nice, cozy venue that looked much better than RFK. It was a really good choice to put it there. The Dynamo did not look like the team that won the MLS Cup last year. It going to be tough for the two MLS squads to advance.

[cthomer5000]

yeah, Houston is dragging ass right now, going to be tough for them to advance.

[SirFozzie]

uh oh..

Beckham injured in Spain today.

If it's a torn MCL=Out six weeks
if it's a torn ACL=See ya in 2008

[cthomer5000]

Those MRI results are going to be pretty damn important. *sigh*

[SirFozzie]

Reports are right now he'll be out 4-8 weeks.. but there's nothing official out there yet

[Butter]

Columbus and Houston got some face time on FSC this weekend, as the run-up to the season opening on April 7th continues.

I reiterate here my desire to follow the league more closely this season, and even try to get out to a Crew game with my boys sometime this season.

The Crew did not look bad at all during the first 60 minutes of this game (I got sleepy and plan to watch the final 30 minutes this evening). I can only hope that they will improve this year. They can't get much worse, and it is hampering my desire to watch any MLS. I have enough crap sports teams around here... the Blue Jackets, the Reds, the Bengals (still haven't proven themselves), the Cavaliers. We need a winner besides Ohio State to get behind, dammit!

[SirFozzie]

It was columbus and dallas btw :)

[Butter]

See how out of touch I am?!?!?!?!

:)

[SFL Cat]

Soccer is an excellent sport to lull one to sleep...even better than baseball.

[Butter]

Pre-season soccer is for sure.

[SirFozzie]

*chuckles* Well, it was certainly a step down from the games on GolTV and Setanta this weekend.. I mean, Barcelona-Real Madrid (wotta game), Bayern Munich-Werder Bremen, AC Milan-Inter Milan.. to Dallas-Columbus preseason in front of 200 people?

[Neuqua]

It looks like Mexican "star" Blanco and the Fire are getting real close to a deal. He's talented, but I really don't know how I feel about him coming to play for the Fire.

[Easy Mac]

I'd kick him in the balls.

[Butter]

Blanco playing in the USA? I hope he gets tackled studs up about 10 times a game.

[Easy Mac]

Just so people know, the Houston-Pachuca game was moved to tomorrow night due to a power outage. Damn Mexicans and their poor electrical systems.... oh, right.

[Butter]

Is it going to be on FSC as well? How are they working that, with the DC game also scheduled tonight?

[Easy Mac]

Is it going to be on FSC as well? How are they working that, with the DC game also scheduled tonight?

AFAIK, it is on at 6.

[cthomer5000]

Just so people know, the Houston-Pachuca game was moved to tomorrow night due to a power outage. Damn Mexicans and their poor electrical systems.... oh, right.

When i saw someone had posted in here i assumed it was a spoiler about the game so i didnt come in since hadn't watched it yet (DVRed it). So obviously this came as a bit of a surprise. Luckily i inadvertandly DVRed the 2nd half of the game yesderday, so at least i had that.

General statement about the games: If you only had time to watch one i thought the DC United - Chivas Guadalajara match was the far better of the two.



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Good result for Houston, thought i thought it was a boring match (well, the half i saw). Gonna take a meltdown for them to blow it in the 2nd leg.

Really, really enjoyed the DC-Chivas game, as I thought the teams were both going at it pretty damn hard. I thought Chivas were the better side and I think they'll be very hard to beat at home in the 2nd leg. If I were a betting man I'd project a Chivas-Houston final.

[Easy Mac]

Well, I guess we're all out of teams in the Champions Cup or whatever that was. Oh well.

Anyway, MLSLive.tv is back. $20 to watch all the games on the internet. Actually, its less games than last year, mainly because if they're FSE, ESPN or HDNet, they're not on the net.

http://web.mlsnet.com/products/

Also, USLLive is also a go, but that's like $70 for all the USL1 games.

MLS kicks off Saturday on ABC in HD. I'm having to TiVo it.

[cthomer5000]

Well, I guess we're all out of teams in the Champions Cup or whatever that was. Oh well.

The ghetto champions league of CONCACAF is what it was. Winner of that tourney plays in the world club cup againt the champs of each region. Basically it would have likely meant that got at least 1 game against a real deal European or South American team.

I knew DC United was up against it going on the road tied 1-1, but that was a choke job by Houston.

[Easy Mac]

DC-Colorado is an absolutely ugly game.

[cthomer5000]

DC-Colorado is an absolutely ugly game.

RBNY-Columbus was not much better. Below freezing, snow flurries, and a 0-0 scoreline. I really thought RBNY deserved to win but they just couldn't put the ball in the goal despite having a number of very solid opportunities.

[Neuqua]

Ping Foz:

Neener neener neener

[SirFozzie]

Ping Neuqua:

We still knocked you out of the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years. 4 out of 4 if you counted the year we beat you and kept you from MAKING the playoffs :)

[marshall881]

That new field in Colorado looks like a great facility on TV.

[ISiddiqui]

Yep, and the new Colorado unis look pretty nice as well.

[Young Drachma]

Yep, and the new Colorado unis look pretty nice as well.

I really like their badge. I like how KSE decided to make them match all of their other properties.

[Easy Mac]

Holy fuck, Kenny Cooper rifled a shot on the run. That thing moved 6 or 7 times in 25 yards, but it ended up spinning right into a dead footed keeper. If he had been able to place that higher, the galaxy keeper would have been beat by a mile.

oh yeah, don't forget the seemingly weekly MLS game. Also, there are torrents out there in case you missed games from the weekend.

[Easy Mac]

Can we just ban the sky cam from all sporting events?

[Critch]

Soft penalty for the team that are playing LA. The team that are playing LA looking pretty good. Another one for the team that are playing LA.

Not sure who they are though, cos the commentators have spent so much time talking about LA, Landon and Becks that they've not really mentioned the other team :)

[Easy Mac]

LA is getting some crazy pressure in the first 8 of the second half. Dallas is doing its best to shorten the game by rolling around

[Easy Mac]

Brilliant header by Findley after muffing a wide open one earlier and somehow missing from about a yard out earlier. Galaxy still look to lose with only 6 minutes left.

[Easy Mac]

Can they please suspend Ruiz?

[GoldenEagle]

I thought they SkyCam was pretty cool. Why ban Ruiz? He is just a man out there making an earning I thought FC Dallas looked very good. Until the Galaxy get some wing play, they are screwed. Randolph looked better than Martino, Cobi, and Albright. It amazes me how Albright has made appearances for the US National Team.

[SirFozzie]

There's a very good reason they call Ruiz "El Pescadito".. the little fish.

Flop. Flop. Flop. Flop.

[bulletsponge]

There's a very good reason they call Ruiz "El Pescadito".. the little fish.

Flop. Flop. Flop. Flop.

agreed. how is he not playing in Italy or Portugal?


dola i just realized why he isnt playing there. he might flop a lot, but he doesnt act like hes had his leg hacked by a lead pipe. therefore hes not good enough for those 2 countries

[Easy Mac]

Foz must be happy right now, with Twellman dropping a deuce in 18 minutes.

[MrBug708]

agreed. how is he not playing in Italy or Portugal?


dola i just realized why he isnt playing there. he might flop a lot, but he doesnt act like hes had his leg hacked by a lead pipe. therefore hes not good enough for those 2 countries

That and he's about 5'5

[Easy Mac]

agreed. how is he not playing in Italy or Portugal?


dola i just realized why he isnt playing there. he might flop a lot, but he doesnt act like hes had his leg hacked by a lead pipe. therefore hes not good enough for those 2 countries

You must have missed the play I posted my response about. He had the ball stolen, was not even touched, then grabbed his legs and yelled and rolled around in pain for a good 2 minutes. He was never touched, not by a foot, leg, ball, nothing touched him at all.

[bulletsponge]

You must have missed the play I posted my response about. He had the ball stolen, was not even touched, then grabbed his legs and yelled and rolled around in pain for a good 2 minutes. He was never touched, not by a foot, leg, ball, nothing touched him at all.

yea i missed that

[SirFozzie]

4-nil.. to the boys in blue :)

Just got home, great atmosphere. I really feel sorry for the 100 or so Toronto fans who were on the road 11 hours to see their team play like that.

[cthomer5000]

Juan Pablo Angel to Red Bull New York is official... Woot! Definitely needed someone to pair up with Altidore (who is for real), and now this makes me pretty excited about their overall hopes for the season. They've looked vastly improved in 3 of their 4 halves of play this year (2nd half @ Columbus was shit).

Is it me or does the overall level of play seem up this year? I watched Kansas City-DC and that was one hell of a game.

[Mr. Wednesday]

The level of play should be rising — they're bringing some serious foreign talent into the league, and more importantly, every new rookie class is going to benefit from the rising skill level in the American player pool (that is, according to a sampling of youth soccer followers on BigSoccer, the skill and level of play at the age-group levels is growing by leaps and bounds).

[SirFozzie]

I hope my Tivo is fixed by Thursday night so I can see the Crew-Revs game

[Easy Mac]

I thought the opener (Colorado - DC) was borderline unwatchable, and Columbus-RSL was just horrendous.

[ISiddiqui]

Juan Pablo Angel to Red Bull New York is official... Woot! Definitely needed someone to pair up with Altidore (who is for real), and now this makes me pretty excited about their overall hopes for the season. They've looked vastly improved in 3 of their 4 halves of play this year (2nd half @ Columbus was shit).

Wow... that's a nice signing. Should make the Red Bulls more formidable in the attack. Add Mathis to the mix (need to get him some playing time even on the off times Reyna is healthy ;)) and it looks pretty nice indeed.

[astrosfan64]

Redbulls fan here living in Houston.

Anyway, Redbulls looked great the other day. Altidore looked fantastic, he is just what US Soccer has been missing.

Slightly Off Topic, my friend and I are running an MLS Football Manager game. He is using the Dynamo and I'm using the Red Bulls. It has been a blast.

I'm currently in 2nd place with the Red Bulls, he is first with the Dynamo. If anyone has FM, you should really try the MLS in a multiplayer game.

[cthomer5000]

Doh... side effect of the Juan Pablo Angel signing was needing to clear out a roster spot... RBNY just traded Marvell Wynne to Toroton for a 2nd round draft pick. I'm really fond of Wynne and he and Altidore are my favorite players on the team.

I hope Bruce knows what he's doing.

Definite good move for Toronto in my opinion.

[Butter]

I thought the opener (Colorado - DC) was borderline unwatchable, and Columbus-RSL was just horrendous.

Columbus has now played in two 0-0 games, and having watched one of them along with parts of 3 other games, I just have to say... if the league is supposed to have raised its level of play, it's not showing on the field. The Galaxy/Dallas match last week wasn't too bad, but the others I've seen have just not been very good.

[cthomer5000]

Columbus has now played in two 0-0 games, and having watched one of them along with parts of 3 other games, I just have to say... if the league is supposed to have raised its level of play, it's not showing on the field. The Galaxy/Dallas match last week wasn't too bad, but the others I've seen have just not been very good.

Might just be a matter of what teams people are seeing. New York is definitely looking way better than last year. DC has consistently played at a higher level than most the league. Houston is a solid team. Outside of that unfortunately, you may catch a turd of a game. I will say though that Kansas City looked fantastic against DC, and the pace of that game was probably the single best I've seen in any MLS game to date.

The games *I've* seen have looked a full level better than the games I was watching last year. We'll see 10 weeks from now though... might be a whole different story.

[Butter]

Part of the problem might be that I've watched a few of the supposedly worst teams in the league... Chivas v. Toronto... and Columbus had no attack last year and it continues.

[cthomer5000]

Part of the problem might be that I've watched a few of the supposedly worst teams in the league... Chivas v. Toronto... and Columbus had no attack last year and it continues.

Yeah, I have to admit there are only a select number of teams I will attempt to watch. All the Red Bulls games, but then DC, Houston, and probably New England. I'm sure i'll add LA to the list when Beckham arrives. I remember watching a Colorado- Real Salt Lake game last year that was probably the worst game i've ever seen in any league.

[Easy Mac]

Might just be a matter of what teams people are seeing. New York is definitely looking way better than last year. DC has consistently played at a higher level than most the league. Houston is a solid team. Outside of that unfortunately, you may catch a turd of a game. I will say though that Kansas City looked fantastic against DC, and the pace of that game was probably the single best I've seen in any MLS game to date.

The games *I've* seen have looked a full level better than the games I was watching last year. We'll see 10 weeks from now though... might be a whole different story.

I'd say its about 60% of the games are better, 40% is about the same/worse. New York has looked much better than last year, but they were a complete mess towards the end of the year. DC has been solid attacking, but their defense is amazingly horrible. Their wings on the backline arejust laughable. New England is also going to be exposed defensively sooner rather than later.

I'd say on the attacking front, MLS has generally gotten better, but I actually think the defenses have become disproportionately worse, or at the very least, a lot of teams are very much either good offense/bad defense or vice versa. I think when things settle, Houston and KC may be the two teams that stand out as having the best overall balance in the league.

[Easy Mac]

Reminder for the Foz, Crew-Revs on Espen dos

[Easy Mac]

I think I jinxed ya Foz.

And what the hell is Tommy Smith's job on the telecast, like the Paul Maguire on college football random color part? He needs to be part of the main broadcast, not some random voice.

[Easy Mac]

I don't hate the Jews, but Andy Gruenebaum is an absolutely horrible keeper.

[cthomer5000]

They need to place the main camera higher so we're looking down on the pitch a little more. I really feel i'm not seeing enough of the game. I ofen can't even tell where some offensive outlets are, and that's not a good thing.

[cthomer5000]

I think I jinxed ya Foz.

And what the hell is Tommy Smith's job on the telecast, like the Paul Maguire on college football random color part? He needs to be part of the main broadcast, not some random voice.

Yeah, drop Wynalda please and let Tommy speak.

[Easy Mac]

I love how ESPN doesn't cut away from the soccer players dropping the F bomb. You can't hear them, but Hejduk told Wells Thompson to go F himself at least 10 times in the span of 5 seconds.

[Easy Mac]

Why Andy Herron will probably be suspended a little while

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[cthomer5000]

Ouchie.

[cthomer5000]

I was happy to be at the Red Bulls - Houston game today. Absolutely PERFECT weather, decent crowd, good game. The Clint Mathis PK miss was painful, and i thought the straight red on him was very harsh. I was focused on the challenge during the play, and my gut feeling was that it was a clear yellow, but the red seemed a bit much. I did record the game on TV so i'll check it out at some point just to satisfy my own curiosity.

Hard not to be elated with a win over the defending champs while down a man for 55 minutes.

Jozy Altidore is the real deal, a couple fantastic runs and one great goal that was the eventual winner. I don't think he's long for this league - he's gonna be too good. He turns 18 in November and he clearly has loads of potential. I'm not sure what type of eligibility hurdles need to be cleared, but i think he's in Europe for the 2008/2009 season at latest, if not moving at season's end (mid-season transfer window in Europe). Whether he's here or not though, the US just might have an actual striker on the 2010 World Cup team.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Once he turns 18, the main eligibility hurdle is the WP rules for the UK, he'd be able to go to any other country immediately subject only to any sort of salary/roster requirements.

[Easy Mac]

Mls.tv starts the CHivas - RSL game at the 25th minute. What, did they forget to turn on their direct tv subscription until then? The game is already 2-0, just pathetic. And in case you don't believe me, there was a game last week where for about 10 minutes, the picture would stutter and a message would pop up saying there is intereference with their sattelite and to call a direct tv number. I mean seriously, that's what the league is doing, streaming their direct tv?

[RPI-Fan]

I was happy to be at the Red Bulls - Houston game today. Absolutely PERFECT weather, decent crowd, good game. The Clint Mathis PK miss was painful, and i thought the straight red on him was very harsh. I was focused on the challenge during the play, and my gut feeling was that it was a clear yellow, but the red seemed a bit much. I did record the game on TV so i'll check it out at some point just to satisfy my own curiosity.

Hard not to be elated with a win over the defending champs while down a man for 55 minutes.

Jozy Altidore is the real deal, a couple fantastic runs and one great goal that was the eventual winner. I don't think he's long for this league - he's gonna be too good. He turns 18 in November and he clearly has loads of potential. I'm not sure what type of eligibility hurdles need to be cleared, but i think he's in Europe for the 2008/2009 season at latest, if not moving at season's end (mid-season transfer window in Europe). Whether he's here or not though, the US just might have an actual striker on the 2010 World Cup team.

Altidore was awesome yesterday. That goal was very, very well taken (in addition to really showing Onstad's age). And although the FSC announcers might have been harping on it a bit much, I definitely noticed Wattereus' techincal ability and it made a huge difference for 10-man Red Bull (compared to Onstad who cannot distribute the ball whatsoever).

[Easy Mac]

Stats I've compiled so far for absolutely no reason
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</td><td class="g s8">4/7/2007</td><td class="g s9">2</td><td class="g s10">RSL</td><td class="g s9">2</td><td class="g s10">DAL</td><td class="g s10">Jair Marrufo</td><td class="g s11">66</td><td class="g s11">15</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">278</td><td class="g s11">11</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">344</td><td class="g s11">26</td><td class="g s11">4</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">4</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/7/2007</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">CLB</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">NY</td><td class="g s6">Kevin Stott</td><td class="g s7">65</td><td class="g s7">14</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">127</td><td class="g s7">10</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">192</td><td class="g s7">24</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">0</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/7/2007</td><td class="g s9">1</td><td class="g s10">CHI</td><td class="g s9">0</td><td class="g s10">NE</td><td class="g s10">Baldomero Toledo</td><td class="g s11">131</td><td class="g s11">9</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">246</td><td class="g s11">13</td><td class="g s11">3</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">377</td><td class="g s11">22</td><td class="g s11">4</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">1</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/7/2007</td><td class="g s5">2</td><td class="g s6">USA</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">TOR</td><td class="g s6">Terry Vaughn</td><td class="g s7">58</td><td class="g s7">15</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">116</td><td class="g s7">12</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">174</td><td class="g s7">27</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">2</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/8/2007</td><td class="g s9">0</td><td class="g s10">HOU</td><td class="g s9">0</td><td class="g s10">LA</td><td class="g s10">Abiodun Okulaja</td><td class="g s11">45</td><td class="g s11">16</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">188</td><td class="g s11">13</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">233</td><td class="g s11">29</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">0</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/12/2007</td><td class="g s5">1</td><td class="g s6">LA</td><td class="g s5">2</td><td class="g s6">DAL</td><td class="g s6">Terry Vaughn</td><td class="g s7">116</td><td class="g s7">17</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">248</td><td class="g s7">16</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">364</td><td class="g s7">33</td><td class="g s7">4</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">3</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/14/2007</td><td class="g s9">0</td><td class="g s10">RSL</td><td class="g s9">0</td><td class="g s10">CLB</td><td class="g s10">Tim Weyland</td><td class="g s11">79</td><td class="g s11">12</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">139</td><td class="g s11">10</td><td class="g s11">4</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">218</td><td class="g s11">22</td><td class="g s11">5</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/14/2007</td><td class="g s5">2</td><td class="g s6">DC</td><td class="g s5">4</td><td class="g s6">KC</td><td class="g s6">Jozef Batko</td><td class="g s7">120</td><td class="g s7">14</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">5</td><td class="g s7">112</td><td class="g s7">17</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">232</td><td class="g s7">31</td><td class="g s7">4</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">6</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/14/2007</td><td class="g s9">4</td><td class="g s10">NE</td><td class="g s9">0</td><td class="g s10">TOR</td><td class="g s10">Mark Geiger</td><td class="g s11">62</td><td class="g s11">14</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">32</td><td class="g s11">17</td><td class="g s11">3</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">94</td><td class="g s11">31</td><td class="g s11">5</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">4</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/14/2007</td><td class="g s5">1</td><td class="g s6">HOU</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">USA</td><td class="g s6">Kevin Stott</td><td class="g s7">31</td><td class="g s7">24</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">174</td><td class="g s7">15</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">205</td><td class="g s7">39</td><td class="g s7">4</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/15/2007</td><td class="g s9">1</td><td class="g s10">COL</td><td class="g s9">1</td><td class="g s10">CHI</td><td class="g s10">Jair Marrufo</td><td class="g s11">118</td><td class="g s11">13</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">239</td><td class="g s11">8</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">357</td><td class="g s11">21</td><td class="g s11">4</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">2</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/15/2007</td><td class="g s5">3</td><td class="g s6">NY</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">DAL</td><td class="g s6">Andrew Chapin</td><td class="g s7">129</td><td class="g s7">11</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">185</td><td class="g s7">13</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">314</td><td class="g s7">24</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">3</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/19/2007</td><td class="g s9">2</td><td class="g s10">CLB</td><td class="g s9">2</td><td class="g s10">NE</td><td class="g s10">Ricardo Salazar</td><td class="g s11">109</td><td class="g s11">10</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">3</td><td class="g s11">248</td><td class="g s11">14</td><td class="g s11">4</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">357</td><td class="g s11">24</td><td class="g s11">5</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">4</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/21/2007</td><td class="g s5">1</td><td class="g s6">NY</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">HOU</td><td class="g s6">Baldomero Toledo</td><td class="g s7">80</td><td class="g s7">18</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">189</td><td class="g s7">12</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">269</td><td class="g s7">30</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">1</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/21/2007</td><td class="g s9">2</td><td class="g s10">CHI</td><td class="g s9">1</td><td class="g s10">KC</td><td class="g s10">Kevin Stott</td><td class="g s11">11</td><td class="g s11">13</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">250</td><td class="g s11">19</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">261</td><td class="g s11">32</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">3</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s4">4/21/2007</td><td class="g s5">4</td><td class="g s6">USA</td><td class="g s5">0</td><td class="g s6">RSL</td><td class="g s6">Hilario Grajeda</td><td class="g s7">135</td><td class="g s7">15</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">65</td><td class="g s7">4</td><td class="g s7">2</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">1</td><td class="g s7">200</td><td class="g s7">19</td><td class="g s7">3</td><td class="g s7">0</td><td class="g s7">4</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s8">4/22/2007</td><td class="g s9">3</td><td class="g s10">DAL</td><td class="g s9">1</td><td class="g s10">COL</td><td class="g s10">Ricardo Salazar</td><td class="g s11">128</td><td class="g s11">17</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">219</td><td class="g s11">21</td><td class="g s11">4</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">347</td><td class="g s11">38</td><td class="g s11">6</td><td class="g s11">0</td><td class="g s11">4</td></tr><tr><td class="rAll">
</td><td class="g s1">
</td><td class="g s9">31</td><td class="g s1">
</td><td class="g s9">14</td><td class="g s1">
</td><td class="g s1">
</td><td class="g s11">1544</td><td class="g s11">261</td><td class="g s11">26</td><td class="g s11">2</td><td class="g s11">26</td><td class="g s11">3262</td><td class="g s11">249</td><td class="g s11">39</td><td class="g s11">1</td><td class="g s11">19</td><td class="g s11">4806</td><td class="g s11">510</td><td class="g s11">65</td><td class="g s11">3</td><td class="g s11">45</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Easy Mac]

Watching the KC-Chi game from the 21st. I love soccer, because rarely in any other sports do you hear "Would you fucking cover somebody" being yelled out (let alone having the announcers comment on it). I honestly think broadcasters don't care, they're just like, the people who watch soccer just don't care, and no one who would care watches

[Easy Mac]

In case people are wondering, there are around 300-400 people in Kansas City watching KC and Toronto play. Its pretty nasty wind and rain, but there's literally no one on the left side of the stands.

[SirFozzie]

Herron got four games suspension for his elbow, btw

[Easy Mac]

Since the feed doesn't cut from the game at the half, I hear Kid Rock - Cowboy playing on the loudspeaker. This speaks to the low attendance.

[cthomer5000]

I'm pumped for the Dallas -RBNY game tonight (ESPN2, 8PM). Red Bull is promising to actually keep me entertained over the course of the summer if they keep playing this well. They're off to such a good start.

[marshall881]

Yeah, tonight should be a very entertaining match!
Altidore is worth watching by himself.

[bulletsponge]

i know ill be watching (since the Rockets game wont be on tv :mad: ) even if it was id be switching back and forth. the rockets game has to be on the local stations its normally on

[cthomer5000]

Well, bit of a letdown from an entertainment perspective, but I'll take the 3 points. woot!

[marshall881]

Red Bull's organization in the back is impressive.

[Cringer]

I will be at the Chicago-Houston game tomorrow.

I was here in Houston last year to watch those bastards from Chicago win, I don't want it to happen again. Especially with Dallas losing Thursday, got to take advantage of their loses even this early on.

[SirFozzie]

If you're in with the Dynamo supporters groups, do a few "Piss on the Fire" chants for us, would ya? :)


One of our favorite chants to use when the Chitcago boys are in town..

"If I had the wings of a sparrow....
If I had the ass of a crow....
I'd fly over Chicago, tomorrow...
And Shit on those bastards below!

Shit on, Shit On, Shit On those Bastards, belooooww!
Shit On, Shit On, Shit On those bastards below!"

[cthomer5000]

WTF is going on in DC? (not that i mind)

[Cringer]

If you're in with the Dynamo supporters groups, do a few "Piss on the Fire" chants for us, would ya? :)


One of our favorite chants to use when the Chitcago boys are in town..

"If I had the wings of a sparrow....
If I had the ass of a crow....
I'd fly over Chicago, tomorrow...
And Shit on those bastards below!

Shit on, Shit On, Shit On those Bastards, belooooww!
Shit On, Shit On, Shit On those bastards below!"

I will actually be sitting right below them, on ground level behind a goal. I expect to get toilet paper on me if they are still using it as much as last season.

I like the chant, though not sure I will be teaching it to my daughter just yet.

[Easy Mac]

WTF is going on in DC? (not that i mind)

A backline of McTavish, Boswell, Gros and Namoff instills fear in no one.

Got to say I love the maroon jerseys Houston is sporting.

[SirFozzie]

There are unconfirmed reports (although there are multiple reports) that in an altercation between Columbus Crew and DC United fans at Columbus's Stadium last night, that a gun was pulled on somebody.

Thank god no one was shot.

[SirFozzie]

Terry Vaughn is the worst fucking ref in the fucking league.

If he's not on the take, then he's doing a damned good job of making it seem like he is.

Bullshit PK.

Even worse Red Card to Shalrie (I swear, the fucking league has it in for players who actually want to get out of the league and play in Europe. Last year Dempsey, this year Shalrie).

Revs still get a point, but they might as well fucking give that point in the standings to Terry Vaughn.

[Mr. Wednesday]

The PK is arguable. I think it was borderline but correct.

The red card is one of the worst calls I've ever seen, though. What Vaughn thought he saw, isn't what happened.

[Easy Mac]

The PK was the right call. There's absolutely no reason for Riley to make that charge right there. Just absolutely stupid on his part.

The red was harsh. In full speed, with Joseph coming from behind, it looked like a bad challenge, but it was a yellow card if you just follow the rules.

You want to get more than a point, tell Riley to stop acting like a little bitch and learn to play defense. He should have been red carded for his posturing with Emilio. It was obvious Emilio wasn't even trying to get a call, he got knocked while off balance and fell over. That was a disgrace that Vaughn gave a yellow to Emilio.

[cthomer5000]

The PK was the right call. There's absolutely no reason for Riley to make that charge right there. Just absolutely stupid on his part.

The red was harsh. In full speed, with Joseph coming from behind, it looked like a bad challenge, but it was a yellow card if you just follow the rules.

Agreed on both counts. The foul on the PK looked utterly ridiciculous at full speed. And it was totally unnecssary so he really only has himself to blame.

Good overall game by the way. The MLS games I've caught this year have generally been at a pretty solid level of play.

[Cringer]

I still hate Chicago. Bastards.

Houston had so many damn chances on set pieces and coudln't get anything from them. Still enjoyed the game last week since I don't get to go to many, but would have been better to walk away with a win.

I heard several people blaming the maroon jerseys worn by the Dynamo in honro of VT. :D

[Mr. Wednesday]

The red card is one of the worst calls I've ever seen, though. What Vaughn thought he saw, isn't what happened.
I watched the play again, and for some reason, when I saw it originally, I thought Joseph tackled the ball cleanly.

I still disagree with the sending off (strongly), but I do think it was a foul.

[Easy Mac]

So does anyone know what happened in TOR-Chi? I don't have FSC, so I missed the seat cover throwing and the fisticuffs or biting.

[SirFozzie]

This?

There was trouble in the 43rd minute when Chicago goalie Matt Pickens objected to the way Dichio challenged for the ball in front of the goal. An enraged Pickens picked himself off the ground and headed straight to Dichio. Shoves were exchanged, drawing a flood of players into the fracas.

When the dust settled, Dichio and Fire midfielder Diego Gutierrez were ejected, with Dichio leaving to a standing ovation. Replays showed that Pickens may have had a legitimate beef with the 6-foot-3 striker, who was using his arms and legs to make a nuisance of himself with the goalie.

[Easy Mac]

Schellotto is giving COlumbus a very dangerous attack, something they haven't seen there in a while. He and Grabavoy could be a deadly combo. If they can just find a striker...

[Easy Mac]

Rusty Pierce has a large cut over his eye. Looked like he took an elbow from Galindo.

[MylesKnight]

Watched a bit of the Toronto/Chicago Game today on FSC.

Looks like Toronto was a fantastic choice for expansion by the MLS, as the atmosphere may already (arguably) be the best in the league. Could Vancouver and/or Montreal be a possibility in the near future?

[Easy Mac]

Taylor Twellman = God

And if I see James Riley yell at someone and do his little posturing thing, I will personally drive to New England and punch him. We get it, you're angry and you're black... get over yourself.

[DaddyTorgo]

Taylor Twellman = God

And if I see James Riley yell at someone and do his little posturing thing, I will personally drive to New England and punch him. We get it, you're angry and you're black... get over yourself.

is taylor putting a pounding on LA? i'm watching something else.

[SirFozzie]

Mac: That 2nd goal was the best one touch I've seen from the Revs in weeks.

Huge three points, I thought it was a wasted two points when LA equalized

[Oilers9911]

Watched a bit of the Toronto/Chicago Game today on FSC.

Looks like Toronto was a fantastic choice for expansion by the MLS, as the atmosphere may already (arguably) be the best in the league. Could Vancouver and/or Montreal be a possibility in the near future?

No doubt about it. The Toronto crowd is loud and it will make Toronto a very tough place for visiting teams to come play.

[B & B]

No doubt about it. The Toronto crowd is loud and it will make Toronto a very tough place for visiting teams to come play.

:rolleyes: Yeah, great fans. Showing support for the home team by throwing their complementary seat cushions on the field and at the opponents sidelines/players. Real stand up move.

Things got bad enough that they had to bring on a shielded bench for the visitors at halftime. Kicker is they werent even losing at the time as they normally do (worst team in MLS)

Canadians...

You stay classy, Toronto.

[Oilers9911]

:rolleyes: Yeah, great fans. Showing support for the home team by throwing their complementary seat cushions on the field and at the opponents sidelines/players. Real stand up move.

Things got bad enough that they had to bring on a shielded bench for the visitors at halftime. Kicker is they werent even losing at the time as they normally do (worst team in MLS)

Canadians...

You stay classy, Toronto.

LOL, a shielded bench for foam seat covers. What a bunch of nancys on that Chicago bench. Oh, and brainiac, they are a first year expansion team. You expected them to go undefeated? Though they are good enough to beat the hell out of Chicago. You'd better not come to Toronto for a game. Wouldn't want you running away crying by half-time.

[Butter]

Re: Toronto-Chicago...

Anything that will give this league some fucking PERSONALITY is more than welcome. Good for the Toronto fans for showing some enthusiasm, misplaced as it might have been.

[Oilers9911]

Re: Toronto-Chicago...

Anything that will give this league some fucking PERSONALITY is more than welcome. Good for the Toronto fans for showing some enthusiasm, misplaced as it might have been.

I agree. Throwing stuff on the field isn't the smartest thing on earth but it wasn't like they were throwing flares, coins and batteries.

[SirFozzie]

LA Galaxy sign another international player, Portugese defender Abel Xavier through this season and next (he had been out of contract at Middlesborough.

http://www.radiobremen.de/magazin/gesellschaft/haare/_bild/xavier.jpg

[MJ4H]

lookin good

[SirFozzie]

Man just think of the damage to the Ozone over LA.. David Beckham and Abel Xavier on the same team.. can't Al gore put a stop to it, or at least make them adopt strict hare care product limits? :D

[SirFozzie]

Dola:

The rumor is that this is the precursor to a trade that would send Albright and Jaqua to FC Dallas for Ruiz and Dallas's DP Slot.

(if that works, I will have many many reasons to hate LA) :D

[MrBug708]

Ruiz is coming back?

[GoldenEagle]

Dola:

The rumor is that this is the precursor to a trade that would send Albright and Jaqua to FC Dallas for Ruiz and Dallas's DP Slot.

(if that works, I will have many many reasons to hate LA) :D

FC Dallas would get ripped on that deal unless they really just had to get rid of Ruiz. Jaqua and Cooper are basically the same player.

[SirFozzie]

apparently, Ruiz was two days late coming back from Guatemala, and got sat down for a game, and there's a conflict brewing..

[MrBug708]

Ruiz was always one of those "If I was only 4 inches taller" kind of player

[bulletsponge]

LA Galaxy sign another international player, Portugese defender Abel Xavier through this season and next (he had been out of contract at Middlesborough.

http://www.radiobremen.de/magazin/gesellschaft/haare/_bild/xavier.jpg


wow! i once signed Abel for my Carlisle team in FM

[Young Drachma]

Just saw a replay of that Toronto v. Chicago game on FSC just now. Boy, that Toronto crowd actually made MLS look like a proper football league.

Awesome.

[MJ4H]

Yeah I was watching it too. I was trying to nap on Saturday when the game was on live. I saw the first goal and the equalizer then turned it off and went to sleep. The soccer specific stadiums will go a long way towards helping that appearance, too, but yeah, great atmosphere.

[Young Drachma]

Yeah I was watching it too. I was trying to nap on Saturday when the game was on live. I saw the first goal and the equalizer then turned it off and went to sleep. The soccer specific stadiums will go a long way towards helping that appearance, too, but yeah, great atmosphere.

Agreed, the SSS will help tons. No one can really sound loud in a cavernous ballpark without the fans to go with it.

[GoldenEagle]

apparently, Ruiz was two days late coming back from Guatemala, and got sat down for a game, and there's a conflict brewing..

If Ruiz was dealt, FC Dallas would no doubt be my favorite team. I just do not think that Jaqua is who they should get.

[SirFozzie]

The city of Houston signs a deal with the Dynamo for an exclusive bargaining period with regards to a new stadium (near Minute Maid Park)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4803780.html

[MylesKnight]

What's up with the Fire? After starting out 3-0-1, they've lost three straight, including a game last night at home against FC Dallas that they had no business losing.

14 Corners for the Fire to only 1 for Dallas, and they still lose 2-1?

Also it looks like Toronto is going to be a very tough place to get a Win the rest of the way. This may end up being one of those kinds of teams that has a bit of a split personality, home vs. away.

[Neuqua]

Over the past 6-7 years or so I think the Fire have beaten FC Dallas maybe twice. There is something about them that Dave Sarachan hasn't been able to figure out.

[Easy Mac]

About 400 people at the NY-CLB game. I've seen more people at battery games in bad weather.

[cthomer5000]

Weak attendance but great RBNY-Chicago game. We went up 2-0 in 2:16 and cruised from there. Juan Pablo Angel and Jose Altidore together = da shizzle.

[GoldenEagle]

Angel is ridiculous. He is the best player I have ever seen in MLS. The guy can flat out play football. He is not selfish, he works hard, and it defends his teammates. Altidore will learn from him hopefully.

I am not sure what was more pitiful: Chicago or the crowd? The Fire were awful in the attack against a makeshift Red Bulls defense. The only attack they had was to run right at the central defenders. The Fire have no young talent except for Mapp and Rolfe, who are inconsistent. I could see this team sucking badly down the road.

New York, you have a good team with an excellent player. Go out and watch them.

Are the Redbulls in the Superliga this year?

[cthomer5000]

New York, you have a good team with an excellent player. Go out and watch them.

ZERO promotion this year relative to last year. I think they're simply waiting for the new stadium, which could backfire because I think they've run into delays.

The offical attendance was 9,357, but I think there was 7K maximum in the place. There was a legit 20K there last night for Ireland-Ecuador, so it was easy to make the relative comparison.



Are the Redbulls in the Superliga this year?

No, and they're already out of the US Open Cup. I think that's actually a good thing, as I think being able to focus on nothing but the league gives them a tremendous chance of finishing top 4 and qualifying for the SuperLiga next year, and hopefully making a run at the Supporters Shield (the true fan's title).

[GoldenEagle]

No, and they're already out of the US Open Cup. I think that's actually a good thing, as I think being able to focus on nothing but the league gives them a tremendous chance of finishing top 4 and qualifying for the SuperLiga next year, and hopefully making a run at the Supporters Shield (the true fan's title).

I would have really liked to see them in SuperLiga. I think they are the one MLS team that is playing like they could win it right now. They also have the depth to make a run at it. Galaxy are awful, but you have to get Beckham in there.

[GoldenEagle]

Is it safe to say Eddie Johnson is back? Perhaps Fozzie can answer that for us?

[SirFozzie]

Is it safe to say Eddie Johnson is back? Perhaps Fozzie can answer that for us?

.....

..........



I KEEL HIM NOW!

[Cringer]

And the defending champs ring up loss number 5 on the season. Not a good way to start a title defense. I hope they wake up and start getting some goals.

Between these guys and the Astros 7 game losing streak, it's a tough start to summer.....

[PilotMan]

No kidding, there were some real surprises yesterday. The whole Eddie Johnson thing blows my mind. Just proves to you that most of his problems are mental.

18000+ people in Springs to see the Rapids. Yeah for the MLS and US soccer. Let's hope it wasn't get in free day there. Likely they saw Galaxy and thousands of fans thought that Beckham would be there.

It really seems to me that the MLS is more this year. Moire what I don't know. It feels good.

[bhlloy]

It really seems to me that the MLS is more this year. Moire what I don't know. It feels good.

More good players, definitely. Donovan, Beckham, Reyna, Angel - these are proven international players. Don't forget Wales' Carl Robinson in there as well :p

Surely this has got to be a watershed year for the league with the hype of the Beckham signing and the increase in the quality of the play. I'd have thought if franchises like the Red Bulls are losing money and falling attendance figures at the end of the year it is going to send sponsors running for the hills.

Toronto have been a great addition - I would like to see the Vancouver area considered for any future expansion because the Whitecaps have always been pretty well supported IIRC.

[GoldenEagle]

More good players, definitely. Donovan, Beckham, Reyna, Angel - these are proven international players.

Wait, wait....Donovan? :confused:

[Critch]

During the Red Bulls v Chicago game, one of the commentators mentioned that he had it on good authority that there would be another New York MLS team in the near future in an attempt to mirror the Galaxy/Chivas rivalry's success.

Have there been any other rumors about another New York team, any hints as to what the plan is?

[Young Drachma]

Maybe they think two teams playing at that stadium in New Jersey will bring in more money? Whatever. MLS sends more mixed signals than a college girl, you never know where they're courting, where they want teams or don't and it's kinda silly, because it's not like they're the prettiest girl in the room to begin with.

I'm not saying be desperate, but damn...why not try to drum up the interest in the sport by putting teams in places with actual people (looks at you Salt Lake City).

[cthomer5000]

During the Red Bulls v Chicago game, one of the commentators mentioned that he had it on good authority that there would be another New York MLS team in the near future in an attempt to mirror the Galaxy/Chivas rivalry's success.

Have there been any other rumors about another New York team, any hints as to what the plan is?

I don't believe the league can legally do so before 2010, for starters. I think this is moderately unlikely. Red Bull attendance is VERY weak right now, so adding a 2nd team seems like a recipe for disaster. The Galaxy had very strong attendance before Chivas was added, so it's a whole different situation.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wait, wait....Donovan? :confused:
He didn't have the best World Cup in '06, but he's been consistently excellent at the international level outside of that.

[Mr. Wednesday]

During the Red Bulls v Chicago game, one of the commentators mentioned that he had it on good authority that there would be another New York MLS team in the near future in an attempt to mirror the Galaxy/Chivas rivalry's success.

Have there been any other rumors about another New York team, any hints as to what the plan is?

It's something that's been kicked around for a long time, with the ideas usually centering on a new stadium somewhere else in the metro area. I think Queens has been mentioned.

[Critch]

It's something that's been kicked around for a long time, with the ideas usually centering on a new stadium somewhere else in the metro area. I think Queens has been mentioned.

Wouldn't that be a nail in the Red Bulls coffin?

[Mr. Wednesday]

The assumption is that there's enough fans in the NYC metro area to support more than one team. Also, depending on where the new team would be located, it might be an area where it's relatively impractical to make it to RBNY games, making it even more likely that they wouldn't cannibalize the fanship.

[ISiddiqui]

And some of the talks of the new team in NY has been rumored to be a resurrection of the NY Cosmos, though this time in Queens.

[Blade6119]

Why put another team in NY? They would do much better placing a team in a more soccer hungry city...even if its El Paso or St. Louis, i can gurantee they would get higher attendance.

[MrBug708]

Why not Vegas in an indoor stadium? Hell, even an outdoor stadium but that would be brutal

[Easy Mac]

The first 35 minutes of Colorado-Toronto was interesting, up and down soccer. Neither team seems to have much of a back line or any kind of interest in defending in the midfield.

[cthomer5000]

Angel continues to rock the house for RBNY. 6 goals in 5 games now.

[Easy Mac]

So I can watch either the RSL-CLB or Chivas-Revs game on MLS Live right now. Which should I choose? I'm not sure if watching the potential better game (revs game) is worth having to suffer through Christian Miles.

[Easy Mac]

Watching the Chivas game, things are starting to get heated. As usual James Riley is running his mouth and making gestures. That kid has some sort of attitude problem.

[Butter]

Columbus is showing signs of life lately. At least their offense is fun to watch this year.

[Cringer]

The team on a roll is the Houston Dynamo. Tough start to the season, but things are real good now with 515 minutes without a goal given up, and 8 games without losing.

We went to the game thursday against RBNY and it was great. Hard to not have fun when your team wins 4-0. We left Houston saturday night, but now I wish we had stayed to see the Dynamo take out DC 1-0 last night.

On a side note, we had a guy sitting a few rows in front of us (we were behind goal) who seemed a little too obsessed with Craig Waibel. So a sign about Waibel shuting down Angel is fine, but 6-7 different signs about Waibel gets kind of scary. I think he was in love with him.

[cthomer5000]

Red Bulls grind out a much, much, much needed win in Colorado. They have been in a mega-slump recently. Now they have back-to-back huge games against New England and DC United. We'll learn a little more about how this Eastern Conference race is going to shake out in the next two weeks.

[cthomer5000]

MLS All-Star game tonight.

All-Stars vs. Celtic

ESPN2, 9PM Eastern.

[cthomer5000]

Am I the only guy watching the all-star game? I won't be surprised, im just curious.

[ISiddiqui]

Nah.. I am. Sad that Beckham confirmed that he'll probably only play like 15 mins at most on Saturday. :(

Nice goals by Angel and Toja... but you can definately see the differences in the level of fitness by both squads.

[cthomer5000]

Yeah, you're inevitably going to get MLS guys in midseason form and some team just a couple weeks into training. It's the reason they've never lost one of these matchups, even though they themselves are just a collections of guys playing together for the first time.

Ricardo Clark had a couple nice moves early. Toja and Angel also looking consitently threatening. Eddie Johnson is being himself, flashes of brilliance mixed with iffy decision-making.

[MJ4H]

Watching here also.

[Cringer]

I would have loved to see it but instead i am sitting here listening to all the truckstop cb fun. Cheap movies, cheap bjs, and the normal wackos. The game would have been bettet.

[Critch]

I watched the MLS game and I thought it was great :) I just wish MLS All-Stars had scored another few goals to turn their complete and utter domination into a more convincing victory.

Great except for Tommy Smyth anyway.

[cthomer5000]

Great except for Tommy Smyth anyway.

He is easily the least offensive member of that 3-man booth to my ears.

[Butter]

I like Tommy Smyth. I also like that crazy accent guy they used to have on GolTV (still do, maybe?). Apparently, I'm a sucker for British idiots who like to ramble about soccer, whether or not what they say is valid.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Ray Hudson is the crazy color guy on GolTV. He's usually paired with former ESPN pbp guy Phil Schoen.

[Neuqua]

Anyone else watching tonight to see if Beckham plays?

[Flasch186]

he'll play, he has too. too much riding this to not play.

[MrBug708]

Yes Shaq, you built the Lakers....

[MrBug708]

he'll play, he has too. too much riding this to not play.

huh?

[Flasch186]

huh?

too much riding this for the MLS for him not to hit the pitch.

[MrBug708]

too much riding this for the MLS for him not to hit the pitch.

I'm pretty sure the Becks fame won't die if he can't suit up in an exhibition game. This game was going to be sold out with or without him playing. If he doesn't suit up for a month, then the MLS is in trouble

[bulletsponge]

wtf was arnold saying?

[Flasch186]

I'm pretty sure the Becks fame won't die if he can't suit up in an exhibition game. This game was going to be sold out with or without him playing. If he doesn't suit up for a month, then the MLS is in trouble

may not be a larger TV audience though due to the promotions and hype....he'll get on the pitch...may not "play" but he'll be out there.

[cthomer5000]

Arnold did get into a pretty good ramble there, mentioning every single skill and soccer player might possibly possess. Good stuff.

[Cringer]

Woohoo, Beckham is playing! The Galaxy are now the greatest soccer team ever assembled. Well, the greatest team near the bottom of the MLS table anyways.

Ouch, and Becks take a shot to the ankle as I type this. How many people in LA just crapped their pants? :D

[cthomer5000]

I would love a shot of Alexi Lalas' face while Steve Sidwell made that tackle on Beckham.

Some combo of: :eek: :o :mad: :( :rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

[SirFozzie]

Probably more like "If Beck's injured, I will buy his contract just so I can have him sweeping up the HDC for the next four years.."

[MrBug708]

Woohoo, Beckham is playing! The Galaxy are now the greatest soccer team ever assembled. Well, the greatest team near the bottom of the MLS table anyways.

Ouch, and Becks take a shot to the ankle as I type this. How many people in LA just crapped their pants? :D

DOn't hate the MLS' previously most legendary squad :)

[cthomer5000]

Blanco looked pretty damn good for Chicago today.

[Cringer]

Damn, wish I hadn't missed that Dynamo-Revs game. 5 goals in the second half. Ching with 2 goals in about a minute I guess. De Rosario with a 27 yard shot. I was pretty certain the Dynamo lossless streak would end today, so I am happy to come away with the draw.

[cthomer5000]

This isn't techincally MLS since it's a SuperLiga game, but LA is currently beating Dallas' brains out. 4-0 after 18 minutes. :eek:

[MrBug708]

http://la.galaxy.mlsnet.com/t106/index.jsp

If you want to watch a 6-5 game, here are the highlights. Plus Dallas had two goals called back in it...

[Young Drachma]

Great game.

[cthomer5000]

It was a pretty insane game. I was just rooting for someone to win since a draw could have knocked out both teams. Even that became stressful as Dallas kept pulling 1 back late in the game. They (FCD) played great except for those horrific 19 minutes to start the game.

[GoldenEagle]

The crowd tonight in Toronto made a rather boring match fairly interesting. Watching Cannon get frustrated was pretty amusing. They were definitely in his head. The chants to Donovan were funny as well. The Galaxy were very lucky to get away with a point and Harden's clear off the line was class.

I was pretty skeptical when they announced the team in Toronto, but I am glad that they put it there now. The atmosphere is crazy and by far the best in MLS.

[Cringer]

Wanted t watch the game tonight but had to miss it. :(

Dynamo lost yesterday finally. Knew it would happen sometime but it sucks to see the streak end in frickin' Salt Lake.

[MJ4H]

I was cracking up when Donovan was trying to kick a corner and the crowd was piling streamers on him and all over the corner of the field, making him have to stop and clean it up.

[Cringer]

I was cracking up when Donovan was trying to kick a corner and the crowd was piling streamers on him and all over the corner of the field, making him have to stop and clean it up.

My daughter and I are guilty of taking part in this at Dynamo games. The opposing goalies don't like streamers too much, especially when they just miss them or the get their feet tangled. It's so fun sitting at that end of the stadium.:D

[SFL Cat]

Wow...MLS is still around?! David Beckham is playing in America??? Go figure...

[MJ4H]

Yes. Doing pretty well, too.

[cthomer5000]

Sarcasm detector broken?

[MJ4H]

Probably.

[cthomer5000]

Probably.

I'm not 100% myself, but i sure hope SFL was kidding. :)

[SirFozzie]

Well, that was interesting, someone tried to put Beckham into the hospital with a challenge in the Superclassico, and the resulting scrum saw a headbutt, and two red cards.

Think the 2nd half's gonna be a mite bit heated?

[cthomer5000]

It was a pretty awful foul, and if you saw the full run-up, Beckham had kind of shoved that guy out of the way before the foul so he was clearly retaliating with his ridiculous "challenge" on Beckham to being things.

Can't go too wrong with seeing this level of intensity in games in MLS though. :)

[Chief Rum]

Too bad the Galaxy can't convert that intensity into execution on the field.

I like at that lineup and I think that's a pretty solid team there. And yet they have been playing like crap all year, despite the talent. I don't get it.

[SirFozzie]

3 month later bump..

A first half Taylor Twellman bicycle kick holds up and gives the Revs a 1-0 win and their 4th trip to MLS Cup in six years.

[Cringer]

3 month later bump..

A first half Taylor Twellman bicycle kick holds up and gives the Revs a 1-0 win and their 4th trip to MLS Cup in six years.

And hopefully the Dynamo will take care of business against KC so they can defeat the Revs in the MLS Cup for the second straight year. :p

[Cringer]

Dola- Forgot, I meant to post this...

Major League Soccer commissioner Don Garber will be in Seattle on Tuesday, to announce that city will receive an expansion franchise to begin play potentially in the 2009 season.
The Seattle team will be owned by Hollywood movie studio executive Joe Roth, Seattle Sounders managing partner Adrian Hanauer and Vulcan Sports and Entertainment, the owner of the NFL's Seattle Seahawks.

Details on the team will be unveiled at a Tuesday press conference in Seattle.

Seattle has a storied soccer tradition as it was home to the Seattle Sounders of the North American Soccer League from 1974 until 1983. The city is currently home to the Seattle Sounders of the USL First Division. The Sounders have been crowned champions of the USL First Division two of the past three years including 2007, and have produced MLS players such as Houston's Brian Ching and Chivas USA's Maykel Galindo.

Seattle will be the 15th team in Major League Soccer, after the addition of the San Jose Earthquakes, which will begin play in 2008, the league's 13th season.

MLS plans to expand to 16 teams by 2010 and could feature as many as 18 clubs by 2012. Expansion conversations continue with more than a dozen communities throughout the United States and Canada. Commissioner Garber will discuss each market at his year-end state of the league address on November 16 at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

[Cringer]

Double, delayed dola-

I am freakin' out man. I am in Houston right now, the game is just under 2 hours away. I am sitting here tonight and want so badly to go to the game. The problem is, even though the wife so go ahead, there is no way I could spend the money right now. I just threw away $195 last night when I got a ticket for expired inspection sticker on my trailer while going through a weigh station. There is no way I can turn around and spend money on a cab ride to the game, a ticket, and a cab ride back to my truck.

I will sit and wear my Dynamo hat in my truck, and hopefully the game comes in on the radio for me. I am not sure how this trucks radio picks up AM, I have never listened to regular radio in here but usually trucks suck with AM radio. I think they have a FM station, but I think that may be spanish. Going to have to check.

[SFL Cat]

What does MLS stand for again?

[Cringer]

Multiple Listing Service, a service for realtors to see what houses are up for sale in their area. Or Major League Soccer.

Pretty much a sell-out in Houston for tonight. Will be a record crowd for the Dynamo, breaking their 35,000+ from the game against L.A. a few weeks ago. I have the game on crappy static A.M. radio with some guy with an accent. Woohoo! Starting any minute now.

[Cringer]

M Brian Mullan is hurt pretty bad 3 minutes in. Finally walked off, not sure if he is back in or not.

edit: phew, back in a minute later.

[sterlingice]

Is there any site where you can watch MLS games like on Yahoo or ESPN? The Yahoo interface seems to be lacking

SI

[SirFozzie]

There's probably a P2P link for it, but the MLSNET.Com video service won't be working, since it's a national (FSC) game

[Cringer]

Four guys in the box and nobody could get a shot off, damn.

(that sounds like a failed porn scene)

[Cringer]

Crap. Now that I said the above, the whole game sounds like a porn play by play. Soccer isn't meant for the radio me thinks.

[SirFozzie]

Jacqua off a corner kick, 1-0 Dynamo.. Houston are the much better team so far.

[Cringer]

Jaqua GOAL!!

[Cringer]

Jacqua off a corner kick, 1-0 Dynamo.. Houston are the much better team so far.

KC is the #8 seed, the Dynamo better be better. Fuck I wish I was there. I can see the confetti and the streamers in my mind!!

[SirFozzie]

you should see the Dynamo supporters group bouncing behind the net. Serious pogoing.

[SirFozzie]

OW. that looked like a huge forearm/elbow shot.

[Cringer]

you should see the Dynamo supporters group bouncing behind the net. Serious pogoing.

I can imagine. The Texian Army sit back there, though usually farther up right above the walkway. The 15 rows or so right behind the net are usually normal fans (where I usually sit when I go) with a few Texian Army mixed in.

KC player hurt bad from what I am hearing. Not something I would wish on any team.

[sterlingice]

Dang, I wish I could find a website to watch it on. I'm curious how the Wizards are doing but I'm watching the KU game on tv so I need something visual, not audio.

SI

[SirFozzie]

Sterling: Check your PM's. I sent you something..

DeRosario goal disallowed for offsides.

[Cringer]

CRAP!! Offside on the goal!!!

[Cringer]

Dang, I wish I could find a website to watch it on. I'm curious how the Wizards are doing but I'm watching the KU game on tv so I need something visual, not audio.

SI

I'm with you on that one, the radio blows for this. As with football tomorrow though, I take what I can get for live anything when it comes to my favorite teams.

[Cringer]

A little over 30,000 fans? Blah, the radio guys made it sound much higher at the begining of the game.

[Cringer]

Just saw the Jaqua goal on the halftime highlights now that I gots me some something to look at. Nice header man. The offside call on DeRosario was close IMO.

[Cringer]

LOL! And the KC goal is on the side of the Texian Army this half! I love it. Poor visiting goalies just don't like the streamers.

[Cringer]

Can't believe Mullan wasn't called on that tackle.

[Cringer]

Crap, Onstad was way there heck out there and almost paid for it.

[Cringer]

That's not good, Ching went down on his own and that just can't be good.

[Cringer]

Ching felt his calf pop? Awww crap man.

[SirFozzie]

and that should be the game.

This time around, the Revs are going to melt the creamsicles, since you guys don't have the psuedo-home field. you're in OUR territory now, boyos!

[Cringer]

WOOOOHOOOOO!!! I love DeRosario!!!!!!!! Bring it on New England!

[Cringer]

and that should be the game.

This time around, the Revs are going to melt the creamsicles, since you guys don't have the psuedo-home field. you're in OUR territory now, boyos!

D.C. isn't as close as Dallas, that's for sure. And Ching being in or out could be a big factor now.

[sterlingice]

Dang, looks like it's over for KC :(

SI

[SirFozzie]

Cringer: Want to put a Signature Bet on the line for the Cup final? :)

[Cringer]

Ching on local radio right now, asked how he is doing....

"uh, I've been better."

Says he thinks he strained his calf. I hope it isn't worse then that.

[Cringer]

Cringer: Want to put a Signature Bet on the line for the Cup final? :)

Sure, I'm game.

[SirFozzie]

Nice and simple, just the loser has to put in his signature.. (for the rest of 2007)

Congratulations to the 2007 MLS Cup Champions, (Team Name)

And put it in the team's color.

Congratulations to the 2007 MLS Cup Champions, the New England Revolution

or

Congratulations to the 2007 MLS Cup Champions, Houston Dynamo

[Cringer]

Nice and simple, just the loser has to put in his signature.. (for the rest of 2007)

Congratulations to the 2007 MLS Cup Champions, (Team Name)

And put it in the team's color.

Congratulations to the 2007 MLS Cup Champions, the New England Revolution

or

Congratulations to the 2007 MLS Cup Champions, Houston Dynamo

No problem, works for me. And this year no shootout, goal in the last 15 wins it for Houston.

[Cringer]

Also, I will be on the road still then too, but will do all I can to hear/see the game. If not though don't think I am hiding away. ;)

[BishopMVP]

OW. that looked like a huge forearm/elbow shot.That should have been a Red Card. That was a straight forearm shiver, he wasn't protecting himself there.

Can't wait for next Sunday. :)

[Cringer]

That should have been a Red Card. That was a straight forearm shiver, he wasn't protecting himself there.

Can't wait for next Sunday. :)

I was still listening to the radio at that point, so I can't comment. I do know in the second half that there were a couple of missed calls going both ways.

[cthomer5000]

I hate New England so much... definitely pulling for a Houston repeat, especially since I'd like to see them in the Champions Cup again.

[MrBug708]

So uh, Ruud Gullit is now the head coach of the Galaxy? Is this good?

[bulletsponge]

So uh, Ruud Gullit is now the head coach of the Galaxy? Is this good?

as long as Lalas is the GM, nothing is good