FOFC Wiki [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 03:30 PM

Anyone interested in helping, contributing, etc an FOFC Wiki? I can put it up on my host but I want to test the waters and see what anyones feelings about it are first. Let me know and I can look into proceeding getting it set up.

st.cronin

03-01-2007, 03:32 PM

I would be willing to contribute in whatever ways are incredibly easy and take very little time.

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 03:33 PM

This would strictly be for the board, and not really for the game FOF itself, but if people wanted to add content for FOF or any other games, no one is going to stop you and I'd completely support that as well.

KevinNU7

03-01-2007, 03:58 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Office_Football

Flasch186

03-01-2007, 04:02 PM

wow, USFL left off of the list of MP leagues. ;(

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 04:03 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Office_Football
Yes that is a wikipage on Wikipedia. I'm talking about a specific Wiki just for this site.

lordscarlet

03-01-2007, 04:44 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Office_Football

I believe he means a site with information about the board. I would assume it would contain the list of IWS winners, FTB answers, entries for each member potentially, etc.

wow, USFL left off of the list of MP leagues. ;(

So add it. :)

gottimd

03-01-2007, 04:46 PM

I believe he means a site with information about the board. I would assume it would contain the list of IWS winners, FTB answers, entries for each member potentially, etc.

What about awkward diagrams and pictures of pumpy?

lordscarlet

03-01-2007, 04:48 PM

What about awkward diagrams and pictures of pumpy?

We call that "The Front Page" :)

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 04:57 PM

What about awkward diagrams and pictures of pumpy?

Sure, and also an archive of the NFL in Pictures (if the guy that does it wants it). All that stuff.... Heck someone could even make a Quote of the Week section... I think... :D

Pumpy Tudors

03-01-2007, 05:01 PM

pictures of pumpy omg

http://photos-539.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v66/96/88/45704698/n45704698_30553539_640.jpg

Abe Sargent

03-01-2007, 05:27 PM

I wrote, and Swaggs edited and put in links of tons of stuff this wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_sim

Maple Leafs

03-01-2007, 06:14 PM

You guys realize that Wikipedia is a wiki... it's not the wiki.

Barkeep49

03-01-2007, 06:17 PM

I've expressed support in the past for an FOFC wiki and would be willing to do some contributions towards it.

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 07:05 PM

You guys realize that Wikipedia is a wiki... it's not the wiki.

No... they don't :)

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 07:06 PM

Well I got it online, but nothing is set up yet.

http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Barkeep49

03-01-2007, 07:23 PM

Should we start posting content?

Logan

03-01-2007, 07:45 PM

All I see is a line that says "GMAC WAS HERE AND QUEER!"

DanGarion

03-01-2007, 10:06 PM

Should we start posting content?
Sure, I just got it online, but yeah people can start adding content, if anyone is interested in assiting with admining let me know.

Swaggs

03-01-2007, 10:15 PM

I wrote, and Swaggs edited and put in links of tons of stuff this wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_sim

I had been meaning to post this and try to get folks to fill in some of the gaps in some of the text sims that have no wiki information.

There are a number of good text sims that have little to no information on them. If they could get even a little pub and business from wiki, maybe they will continue to be developed and improve.

Hurst2112

03-01-2007, 10:19 PM

"美式足球01"

That's FOF2001 in Chinese or something.

Vinatieri for Prez

03-01-2007, 10:54 PM

wow, USFL left off of the list of MP leagues. ;(

I added it just for you.

lordscarlet

03-02-2007, 10:13 AM

Are we maybe thinking of getting a better domain? :) perhaps wiki.frontofficefootballcentral.com can be pointed here?

DanGarion

03-02-2007, 10:29 AM

Are we maybe thinking of getting a better domain? :) perhaps wiki.frontofficefootballcentral.com can be pointed here?
I've have no control with that, in fact I'd bow out of providing the hosting if Skydog, or whoever runs frontofficefootballcentral.com wanted to do his own Wiki.

lordscarlet

03-02-2007, 10:45 AM

I threw together a quick sample page: http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Music_Draft

DanGarion

03-02-2007, 02:02 PM

I threw together a quick sample page: http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Music_Draft
That looks great.

Maple Leafs

03-02-2007, 02:57 PM

I threw together a quick sample page: http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Music_Draft
Typically Wiki... uncredited plagarism.

lordscarlet

03-02-2007, 03:06 PM

Typically Wiki... uncredited plagarism.

Except for the part that says: "The first FOFC Music Draft began March 22, 2007. The rules, as stated by Maple Leafs were:" :)

Barkeep49

03-02-2007, 09:30 PM

Did a little work on it now. I plan on trying to get stubs of pages up for quite a few more pages tomorrow, but all the pages I'm making now need a great deal of beefing up as they're just the barest bones of pages.

DanGarion

03-02-2007, 11:45 PM

I've given Barkeep, Lordscarlet, and Swaggs all Bureaucrat status, since they know more about creating pages then me anyway... :) And they are adding content.

Draft Dodger

03-03-2007, 07:22 AM

You guys realize that Wikipedia is a wiki... it's not the wiki.

:confused:

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 09:12 AM

:confused:
A wiki is a general term to describe a kind of software that lets people collaborate and edit each others work. Wikipedia is the most famous example of a wiki. Does that explain the difference?

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 09:19 AM

Swaggs: I think we need to agree on some standard for posters who deserve a wiki page. Also we should agree on a category (either FOFC Users or Member Bios) for people.

lordscarlet

03-03-2007, 09:29 AM

Swaggs: I think we need to agree on some standard for posters who deserve a wiki page. Also we should agree on a category (either FOFC Users or Member Bios) for people.

Do either of you know how to make a template that takes parameters as a list? I don't think you can. I want to make an IWS template where you pass the list of questions and the list of winners, but I don't know that there's an elegant way to do it.

Draft Dodger

03-03-2007, 09:55 AM

A wiki is a general term to describe a kind of software that lets people collaborate and edit each others work. Wikipedia is the most famous example of a wiki. Does that explain the difference?

perfectly. thanks!

Airhog

03-03-2007, 12:16 PM

I added a few things, just kind of bored today.

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 01:17 PM

I really need to start understanding the page design concept, I can do HTML when I have a gun to my head, but I still haven't fully grasped Wiki page design concepts. So I'll just watch what you guys do and eventually figure it out.

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 01:31 PM

I added the requirement to be logged in to edit pages, since I'd rather have some acountability other then a persons IP address.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 02:24 PM

Unless there's a problem I'd think it would be better if it was simpler to edit the pages to encourage contributions.

Swaggs

03-03-2007, 02:36 PM

Swaggs: I think we need to agree on some standard for posters who deserve a wiki page. Also we should agree on a category (either FOFC Users or Member Bios) for people.

I'm not sure what you have in mind, but I'm willing to work within whatever parameters you all suggest. I do better with an example to work from, so if we get something like that established, I think the information will fill in a little more quickly.

Swaggs

03-03-2007, 02:38 PM

BTW, BK...

Can you PM me instructions on how to delete pages (I made a spelling error on one, but couldn't figure out how to delete the entry AND how to do re-directs?

Swaggs

03-03-2007, 02:39 PM

st.cronin

03-03-2007, 02:41 PM

Triple Dola... I'd rather have users be logged in to make changes.

Someone mischievious could cause a lot of problems and, if we are going to spend the time doing this, I'd rather have the accountability, as well.

Aren't all changes reversible, though? So if somebody vandalized an entry, couldn't somebody simply undo the mischief?

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 02:47 PM

Swaggs:

If you use the format [[Category:FOFC Users]] at the bottom of the pages they will all be added to the list currently available here (http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Category:FOFC_Users).

I have done something similar with FOFC Slang (http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Category:FOFC_Slang) and Famous Threads (http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Category:Famous_Threads).

The code to redirect a page is #REDIRECT [[Name of page that should be sent to]]

Dan: You said you made us bureaucrats, but I don't think I have the powers that I ought to with that.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 02:50 PM

Aren't all changes reversible, though? So if somebody vandalized an entry, couldn't somebody simply undo the mischief?
Correct. To reverse a page isn't all that hard. Plus, if some people are made bureaucrats, pages can be "locked" if there's repeated vandalism.

st.cronin

03-03-2007, 02:57 PM

Swaggs: I think we need to agree on some standard for posters who deserve a wiki page. Also we should agree on a category (either FOFC Users or Member Bios) for people.

I'm not sure I understand the need for this. If somebody wants to put up a page on some guy with 1 post, what's the harm?

Lathum

03-03-2007, 02:59 PM

I'm not sure I understand the need for this. If somebody wants to put up a page on some guy with 1 post, what's the harm?

GASP!!!

people with less then 3755 posts don't count!!

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 03:05 PM

I'm not sure I understand the need for this. If somebody wants to put up a page on some guy with 1 post, what's the harm?
Because I feel that it diminishes the usefulness of it if we have all sorts of vanity pages, though I certainly understand your POV.

st.cronin

03-03-2007, 03:08 PM

Because I feel that it diminishes the usefulness of it if we have all sorts of vanity pages, though I certainly understand your POV.

That hadn't occurred to me, but I suspect that situation is just as likely no matter what sort of standards you come up with.

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 03:09 PM

GASP!!!

people with less then 3755 posts don't count!!

Well let's hope it's less then that, I'd like a page too... ;)

wade moore

03-03-2007, 03:10 PM

Why not have some way for different distinctions? Anyone can have a bio, but there is also a seperate distinction for more well-known members?

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 03:11 PM

Dan: You said you made us bureaucrats, but I don't think I have the powers that I ought to with that.

Well it shows you with that access.
Barkeep49 ‎(Bureaucrat)

I'd have no problem with giving the three of you Sysop access. Let me look over the docs and see the powers each access level has.

As for requiring people logged in, I'm still mulling it over, for right now it just requires someone to login, but I might allow anon editing since we can always revert.

Lathum

03-03-2007, 03:12 PM

Well let's hope it's less then that, I'd like a page too... ;)

well we could have a veterans comittee that grants exceptions...:D

Lathum

03-03-2007, 03:13 PM

Why not have some way for different distinctions? Anyone can have a bio, but there is also a seperate distinction for more well-known members?

what would the criteria be for "well known" members?

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 03:21 PM

Well it shows you with that access.
Barkeep49 ‎(Bureaucrat)

I'd have no problem with giving the three of you Sysop access. Let me look over the docs and see the powers each access level has.

As for requiring people logged in, I'm still mulling it over, for right now it just requires someone to login, but I might allow anon editing since we can always revert.

sysop

This is the most common privileged user. A user marked as 'sysop' can delete and undelete pages, protect and unprotect pages, block and unblock IPs, issue read-only SQL queries to the database, and use a shortcut revert-to-previous-contributor's-revision feature in contribs. See Help:Administration for details. (Due to something of a historical accident, users with sysop status are generally referred to as 'administrators' or 'admins' on the English Wikipedia, and most likely elsewhere.)

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So I removed bureaucrat on you guys, and you should now all be set.

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 03:25 PM

Anyone interested in creating a graphic for the front page post them here and we can figure out what we want.

wade moore

03-03-2007, 03:30 PM

what would the criteria be for "well known" members?

I don't know, I'm just saying if people are worried about every tom, dick, and harry having a page this is an option.. I personally think it woudl be silly to disallow a bio on anyone...

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 03:47 PM

I don't have a preference as to who has their own member page, but that's just me.

MIJB#19

03-03-2007, 03:58 PM

FYI, the screen names of some of the listed members are misspelt.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 04:11 PM

FYI, the screen names of some of the listed members are misspelt.
Well then you should fix them!

Or you could post which ones are misspelled here so others can do it.

MIJB#19

03-03-2007, 04:22 PM

Well then you should fix them!

Or you could post which ones are misspelled here so others can do it.You got me there.
Although, it shouldn't be so hard to find the right spelling at, I dunno, FOFC's member list? ;)

Anyway, it caught me right away that QuikSand wasn't with a capital S and Ryan S was merged to RyanS. Also, if my memory serves me right, I'm pretty sure that HornsManiac had a capital M.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 04:40 PM

Hope that didn't come off wrong. I was trying to make an earnest suggestion MIJB.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 04:53 PM

I fixed Quiksand to be a capital S and Horns to be a capital M. I also made sure if anyone entered Ryans that it would go to Ryan S, though the software has no pages linking to Ryans.

Logan

03-03-2007, 05:02 PM

st.cronin

03-03-2007, 05:05 PM

How do you create a page? I want to create a page for Maximum Football.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 05:21 PM

I KNEW there was a thread I wanted to wiki about and then couldn't remember what it was.

To create a page:
Do a search for the page. When the screen comes up it says:
"There is no page titled "maximum football". You can create this page."
Click on create this page and you'll have your page.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 05:26 PM

I don't think it matters about the member pages and whatever...but there need to be more links to the great FOFC threads. It's been a half hour and I'm only on page 4 of the "Kyle, tell us about Hornsmaniac..." thread. God I love it.
I agree. I've hesitated about putting something up about the dissolution of .400 Studios because I don't remember the details. But that's certainly a thread worthy of remembering.

st.cronin

03-03-2007, 05:29 PM

I agree. I've hesitated about putting something up about the dissolution of .400 Studios because I don't remember the details. But that's certainly a thread worthy of remembering.

I think it was actually several threads. Even at the time, there really were no details, just various rumors and allegations, at least that's how it seemed to me.

I created a Maximum Football page, just two sentences.

Barkeep49

03-03-2007, 05:56 PM

Seems like a thread that monumental needs two entries. So I created a separate page to just focus on the thread itself, besides one on the game and giving a more general overview of the thread.

Logan

03-03-2007, 06:21 PM

What the hell was the name of the HUGE thread (I could've sworn it was started by CleBrownsFan) about when to call a girl after getting her number? I tried searching, and no luck...unless my search skills are terrible. Anyway, that was a great one that should be on there.

st.cronin

03-03-2007, 06:24 PM

how long to call?

Logan

03-03-2007, 06:47 PM

Finally found it. The search function sucks. Ctown fan, CleBrownsFan...same thing.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=1575

MIJB#19

03-03-2007, 07:07 PM

Hope that didn't come off wrong. I was trying to make an earnest suggestion MIJB.Didn't sound that way. I thought I were the one sounding like a jerk. :)

Edit: And thanks Logan for the idea to go read "How long to call?" again!

Logan

03-03-2007, 07:23 PM

Didn't sound that way. I thought I were the one sounding like a jerk. :)

Edit: And thanks Logan for the idea to go read "How long to call?" again!

No problem. Hopefully this is the kind of stuff that will give some greater use to the FOFC Wiki. I know that I would love to re-read these classic threads every once in awhile.

DanGarion

03-03-2007, 07:26 PM

No problem. Hopefully this is the kind of stuff that will give some greater use to the FOFC Wiki. I know that I would love to re-read these classic threads every once in awhile.

Yeah that's what I see this as, a reference to those important posts and information that can't always be easily found on the message board itself.

JeeberD

03-03-2007, 07:33 PM

Hooray, I have a page already! :D

JeeberD

03-03-2007, 07:56 PM

Dola-

I know it's fairly bare-bones so far, but I'm having a blast browsing the Wiki... :)

lordscarlet

03-04-2007, 12:01 AM

Unless there's a problem I'd think it would be better if it was simpler to edit the pages to encourage contributions.

You will get spam very quickly if you don't require a login.

As for people asking how to do things, until we build the help pages it hsould be easy enough to look up the help pages for wikipedia as a reference (it's latee so I'm not going to do it now :) )

lordscarlet

03-06-2007, 09:44 AM

bump

Barkeep49

03-08-2007, 07:19 PM

Wish there was a way to encourage more contributions since right now the content being created is very focused on what a few of us find interesting to create and not necessarily the most "useful" info. Not to mention nearly all of the pages we have are stubs in great need of more info.

DanGarion

03-08-2007, 10:39 PM

st.cronin

03-08-2007, 10:57 PM

I think maybe a new thread with some directions and guidelines, maybe stickied at the top, would generate some momentum.

Lathum

03-08-2007, 10:59 PM

can someone post a link to the page on wiki

DanGarion

03-08-2007, 11:01 PM

I think maybe a new thread with some directions and guidelines, maybe stickied at the top, would generate some momentum.
Well someone would need to create a thread with directions and guidelines and then the powers that be would need to sticky it. I give permission to anyone that is contributing to make the post (I'm still just learning the page creation directions), or if someone wants to PM me the post I will post it and ask Skydog about stickying it...

DanGarion

03-08-2007, 11:02 PM

can someone post a link to the page on wiki
http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki

DanGarion

03-08-2007, 11:17 PM

I have added a bunch of games that we discuss here on the boards as catagories. If someone is interested in adding the actual content that would be a good start to learning how to do this. Look at the current design for the FOF description and then write something like that for any game you are interested in.

Here is the link to the Text Sim category.
http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.php?title=Category:Text_Sim

lordscarlet

03-09-2007, 09:21 AM

It's going to be tough to get this going. I'm trying to only add stuff with content, and as a relative n00b that pretty much leaves easy stuff like IWS. :) The best thing to do for directions is link up: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing

We use this software so all of these rules should apply.

cthomer5000

03-09-2007, 09:27 AM

I added it just for you.

This had to have been removed at some point, im pretty sure it was there ages ago when I initially added all the leagues jim had linked at solecismic.

Barkeep49

03-10-2007, 09:28 AM

Is it just me that the wiki is down for?

Alan T

03-10-2007, 10:54 AM

Is it just me that the wiki is down for?

Looks ok to me

Barkeep49

03-10-2007, 11:20 AM

Yeah it came back up for me. Been working away on it now.

DanGarion

03-10-2007, 11:23 AM

It was down for about an hour. I notified the host and they fixed it.

DanGarion

03-10-2007, 11:26 AM

And now it's down again. So give it a few mins.

Swaggs

03-10-2007, 11:37 AM

I'm on it right now and it is working fine.

Barkeep49

03-10-2007, 11:43 AM

Yeah it came back up after about 5 minutes.

Joe

04-14-2007, 01:18 PM

hay cool theres a page about me. but I'm not well known!

Neon_Chaos

04-20-2007, 01:55 AM

Someone needs to add "Welcome to Hollywood."

lordscarlet

04-20-2007, 09:18 AM

Someone needs to add "Welcome to Hollywood."

Go for it. That's how a wiki works.

DanGarion

04-20-2007, 10:10 AM

Would people be more willing to develop this if they didn't have to create a user name and log in?

lordscarlet

04-20-2007, 10:19 AM

Would people be more willing to develop this if they didn't have to create a user name and log in?

I think not being at some random URL would help. :)

DanGarion

04-20-2007, 10:38 AM

I think not being at some random URL would help. :)

Hey it's not at a random URL, if we got some support from the Mods and Skydog, this thing could take off, but none of them have seemed to really want to help... IMO.

Besides I don't feel like investing in a domain unless I see there really is a desire for people to use the site.

Lorena

04-20-2007, 06:22 PM

I have added "Questions" links for all FTB participants.

Antmeister

04-20-2007, 08:11 PM

Okay, I tried to move as many things as I knew about to the front page since most of that stuff was hidden away in the wiki.

DanGarion

04-20-2007, 09:41 PM

I have added "Questions" links for all FTB participants.

Okay, I tried to move as many things as I knew about to the front page since most of that stuff was hidden away in the wiki.

You two are wonderful. Thanks for helping!

DanGarion

07-18-2007, 06:19 PM

I'd like to thank Dodgerchick for her constant updates on the FOFC Wiki (http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/)

I'm going to give you sysop rights so you can do more if you'd like.

I would also like to ask anyone that wants to contribute PLEASE DO. This thing only gets better if people contribute to the Wiki.

Richard Weed

07-18-2007, 08:52 PM

No Pumpy???

Lorena

07-18-2007, 09:36 PM

DanGarion

02-29-2008, 07:25 PM

Bump.

DanGarion

02-29-2008, 07:30 PM

FYI the FOFC Wiki is currently down for upgrades. Any changes you would like me to make at this time?

Should I allow anonymous editing posting? Or should I continue to require accounts?

hoopsguy

02-29-2008, 07:33 PM

Find a way to add Phallid to the Wiki.

Lorena

02-29-2008, 07:42 PM

Or should I continue to require accounts?

Definitely

DanGarion

02-29-2008, 11:32 PM

The FOFC Wiki is back online and up to date. If anyone is interested in maybe helping with some type of redesign that would be awesome. I haven't really played much with Wiki and don't know if there are like themes or styles that I can get. I'm going to look around tonight.

Barkeep49

03-01-2008, 12:16 PM

I've recently thought of the wiki and was wondering what people would like to see there that isn't.

molson

03-01-2008, 06:09 PM

Never knew this existed.

I'd love to see more member bios and famous thread entries. A lot of possibilities here.

Flasch186

03-01-2008, 06:24 PM

well I just made an account over there but am absolutely clueless what to do or how to help :( I suck at teh internetz

Toddzilla

03-01-2008, 07:27 PM

Gotta add the jbmagic blackjack thread and the plane-on-a-treadmill thread

cartman

06-11-2008, 01:32 PM

Just a notice to the minders of the wiki, there needs to be a search and replace done on the links to have them point to OperationSports now.

lordscarlet

06-11-2008, 01:42 PM

Eek. That'll be fun. :)

DanGarion

06-11-2008, 01:45 PM

Oh joy!

Lorena

06-11-2008, 01:47 PM

Yeah I just went back and checked the FTB links and they seem to work, but man, that's gonna be a lotta work!

Thanks cartman.

DanGarion

10-29-2008, 09:18 PM

FYI the link for the FOFC Wiki has changed!

FOFC Wiki - FOFC Wiki (http://fofc.dangarion.com/)

samifan24

10-29-2008, 09:19 PM

FYI the link for the FOFC Wiki has changed!

FOFC Wiki - FOFC Wiki (http://fofc.dangarion.com/)

I get a database error "SQL query hidden" on every page.

DanGarion

10-29-2008, 09:22 PM

Yeah, I spoke too soon, looking into it now. I don't have that table...

DanGarion

10-29-2008, 09:35 PM

It's all fixed! Let me know if you see more errors, not sure what other things will need to be fixed since I moved domains on it.

flere-imsaho

10-30-2008, 08:09 AM

Cool stuff. Keep up the good work!

Lathum

10-30-2008, 10:07 AM

I think the active and well known posters needs to be updated, Airhog hasnt been online since 12-30-07.

DanGarion

12-30-2008, 06:35 PM

Just wanted to throw this out there again and wanted to thank Lorena for being so good at updating things.

If anyone else wants to contribute have at it.

Also if someone wants to get me a skin/theme design that fits the FOFC site better I'd be more then happy to make it so.

DanGarion

12-22-2009, 12:09 PM

Figured I'd give an update since there hasn't been much done on this in 2009. I've updated to the current version of Media Wiki, also the site got bot spammed and I cleaned everything up. Thanks again to all those that have contributed.

FOFC Wiki - FOFC Wiki (http://fofc.dangarion.com/)

DanGarion

08-09-2010, 04:20 PM

I'm contemplating shutting this thing down. Very few updates the past year and I'm getting tired of having to go back through it every month and revert edits from Bots.