So I ordered pizza for dinner. [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

SackAttack

03-30-2007, 10:25 PM

Guy shows up - 20 minutes early, even - and I pay for the pizza.

He gives me my change and starts to walk off before I've had a chance to tip him.

Now, two questions.

1) Possibility that he was giving me counterfeit bills as change and keeping my 'real' change for his tip?

2) Levity aside, I seek the collective wisdom of FOFC. I called the guy back and said "Hey, don't run off yet," and tipped him...but what would y'all have done?

cartman

03-30-2007, 10:26 PM

Did you order from Round Table? If so, count your blessings. If somewhere else, tip the guy.

bulletsponge

03-30-2007, 10:27 PM

tip him.

Greyroofoo

03-30-2007, 10:30 PM

If he walks away he walks away, maybe he's from one of those cultures that don't believe in tipping?

Lathum

03-30-2007, 10:30 PM

odd

tip him.

maybe he had to pee

cartman

03-30-2007, 10:31 PM

odd

tip him.

maybe he had to pee

or maybe he got a hot text message

SackAttack

03-30-2007, 10:32 PM

odd

tip him.

maybe he had to pee

I don't know. He seemed a little embarrassed when I handed him the tip, so maybe he's a new driver and wasn't quite down with the whole thing yet, but 'odd' is definitely the word for it.

cartman

03-30-2007, 10:35 PM

Maybe he read too many Penthouse forums and was disappointed that a hot, naked girl didn't meet him at the door. If you ever have any plumbing problems, and the same guy comes out, then my theory is definitely correct.

st.cronin

03-30-2007, 10:35 PM

I would have felt funny calling him back.

Lathum

03-30-2007, 10:41 PM

or maybe he got a hot text message

I have no memory of this

MizzouRah

03-30-2007, 11:47 PM

If it was Pizza Hut I could definitly understand him running away after giving you that stuff they call pizza. Too bad my kids love it for some odd reason.

MrBug708

03-31-2007, 02:50 AM

You must have some crazy pizza hut's over in Missouri because here the PH is the oinly decent delivery pizza chain

Karlifornia

03-31-2007, 05:50 AM

I delivered pizza for a little while for Mountain Mike's in Los Gatos.

It's an awkward situation between giving the pizza and getting a tip. There's a combination of factors that include (but are not limited to) not wanting to appear greedy, not wanting to get fired for asking for a tip, and not wanting people who can't afford to tip feeling like shit.

When I'd deliver a pizza, I'd assume that if they wanted to tip me that they'd either have the tip ready in bills they already had, or they'd stop me in the split second it took to turn to my car. If you planned on tipping him (even $1), you should have said "wait a minute". He would have come back for that buck, and would have been appreciative. I guarantee it. There's a precious dynamic between pizza deliverers and customers. If you just mention that you appreciate it, but can't tip, it's no big deal. But, if you're too afraid to throw down a buck because you think you're too shy, then the delivery person won't go the extra mile for you.

A delivery person will never spit on your pizza or fuck with it otherwise (unless they're a sick fuck), but they won't bother to make sure you get any special treatment. Trust me. If you are picky, tipping can help assure yourself of satisfaction. We remember addresses.

MizzouRah

03-31-2007, 09:43 AM

You must have some crazy pizza hut's over in Missouri because here the PH is the oinly decent delivery pizza chain

Don't say that in Chicago. :D

I'm more of an Imo's guy as far as delivery goes.

cthomer5000

03-31-2007, 09:50 AM

Yes, the big money is in counterfeit singles.

Big Fo

03-31-2007, 10:09 AM

There's a combination of factors that include (but are not limited to) not wanting to appear greedy, not wanting to get fired for asking for a tip, and not wanting people who can't afford to tip feeling like shit...There's a precious dynamic between pizza deliverers and customers. If you just mention that you appreciate it, but can't tip, it's no big deal.

When I delivered pizzas I did not share your mellow attitude towards tips. If you can't afford to tip the driver, you don't deserve to have food brought to your home. Cook your own damn dinner or get your lazy ass to the store to pick it up. Drivers often get paid at or just below the minimum wage, gas is expensive, and tips are their lifeblood.

st.cronin

03-31-2007, 10:15 AM

Drivers often get paid at or just below the minimum wage, gas is expensive, and tips are their lifeblood.

I've seen ads offering 10-15/hour for pizza drivers. Not saying its a lot of money, but its more than minimum wage.

cuervo72

03-31-2007, 10:17 AM

I usually just say "eh, just give me back $ __" when he goes to give change. Like if it's $15.83 or something and I give a $20, I'll just say "just give me back two, that's fine".

Lathum

03-31-2007, 10:18 AM

I've seen ads offering 10-15/hour for pizza drivers. Not saying its a lot of money, but its more than minimum wage.

that includes tips.

they probably get paid minimum wage ( or less) plus a gas allowance based off miles driven.

Lathum

03-31-2007, 10:19 AM

dola

let the obligitory "FOFC tipping discussion" begin in

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cthomer5000

03-31-2007, 10:20 AM

I've seen ads offering 10-15/hour for pizza drivers. Not saying its a lot of money, but its more than minimum wage.

That definitely includes tips. There is simply no way anyone is getting paid $15 an hour to deliver pizzas. I've known multiple delivery guys, and tips were it, more or less.

cthomer5000

03-31-2007, 10:21 AM

I usually just say "eh, just give me back $ __" when he goes to give change. Like if it's $15.83 or something and I give a $20, I'll just say "just give me back two, that's fine".

That's exactly how i do it, and by far the easiest way to do it.

st.cronin

03-31-2007, 10:23 AM

dola

let the obligitory "FOFC tipping discussion" begin in

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I only tip hot chicks.

GoSeahawks

03-31-2007, 10:41 AM

I delivered pizza's years ago and I agree with Big Fo. If you want someone to deliver pizza to your house, tip them. If you don't feel like tipping, drive into the damn pizza place and pick it up. I don't care what your financial situation is. Mine obviously isn't much better if I'm delivering YOU pizzas.

Bearcat729

03-31-2007, 10:43 AM

that includes tips.

they probably get paid minimum wage ( or less) plus a gas allowance based off miles driven.

It varies by place. While I was driving for Pizza Hut I would get my hourly wage(6.00 to start) and a dollar a run. Other places in the Cincy area I know one place gives their drviers hourly wage plus a % of the drivers sales.

The $10-15 an hour is including tips, I see the restaurants in the area that advertise the same thing when hiring waiters

JeeberD

03-31-2007, 10:53 AM

Yes, the big money is in counterfeit singles.

I found a counterfeit five dollar bill in my cash drawer earlier this week. A pretty decent photocopy job, I only caught it because there were some faint red lines on the back side, and it certainly didn't feel like cash...

I always give exact change, tip already included. Of course, I always have a decent amount of cash on hand...

MizzouRah

03-31-2007, 11:08 AM

I found a counterfeit five dollar bill in my cash drawer earlier this week. A pretty decent photocopy job, I only caught it because there were some faint red lines on the back side, and it certainly didn't feel like cash...

I always give exact change, tip already included. Of course, I always have a decent amount of cash on hand...

PM me your address. :D

Glengoyne

03-31-2007, 11:47 AM

Why the hell would you tip a pizza delivery guy?

Glengoyne

03-31-2007, 11:47 AM

M GO BLUE!!!

03-31-2007, 11:51 AM

Try wearing pants next time.

General Mike

03-31-2007, 11:53 AM

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DaddyTorgo

03-31-2007, 12:29 PM

lol...you used to deliver for mountan mike's in LG karl? my friend lives a couple blocks away. he used to be addicted. small world

Dr. Sak

03-31-2007, 12:37 PM

Sometimes places build in a delivery charge and that is the tip the driver gets/

Axxon

03-31-2007, 01:14 PM

When I'd deliver a pizza, I'd assume that if they wanted to tip me that they'd either have the tip ready in bills they already had,

That's how I do it as a customer. If I don't have the exact bills I tell them how much change to give me. Makes it easier.

Axxon

03-31-2007, 01:19 PM

That definitely includes tips. There is simply no way anyone is getting paid $15 an hour to deliver pizzas. I've known multiple delivery guys, and tips were it, more or less.

That has to be regional. I have several delivery friends in Tampa and none of them made under $10 an hour and it was usually $12. Never heard of $15 though.

The thing is, that's not a lot of money. You have to maintain your own vehicle and pay your own gas too and insurance etc. I really appreciate what they do and I certainly would feel bad not tipping them... unless they act like they're entitled to a tip. That's my hot button. I don't HAVE to tip you but I want to and how much depends on the experience I have and attitude counts.

Can't say I've ever stiffed one though. I'd just choose another pizza place next time. I'm not a pizza connoisseur.

JeeberD

03-31-2007, 01:22 PM

This thread just made me order a pizza. I hope you're happy with yourself, Josh...

JeffNights

03-31-2007, 06:08 PM

I usually just say "eh, just give me back $ __" when he goes to give change. Like if it's $15.83 or something and I give a $20, I'll just say "just give me back two, that's fine".

Wow, you are giving a whole $2.17 as a tip...stand aside for Mr. Big Tipper!!

cuervo72

03-31-2007, 06:35 PM

Sometimes rounding doesn't work well, sometimes it does. That was just an example. Either way, 15% of $15.83 would have been just under $2.40 anyway, and that's if you disregard the fact that the price included tax. So I either tip $3.17 or waste the guy's time dealing in change?

In general, I'm a pretty ok tipper I'd say (left a buck at Chipotle just tonight, and I think by and large the rule on takeout is that you needn't tip at all, but I often do anyway). And, more often than not, I drive myself to pick up food. Doesn't hurt me much to drive a mile and a half to Pizza Hut.

stevew

03-31-2007, 06:46 PM

I usually tip about 3 bucks on Pizza. But if they tack on one of those 1.50 delivery charges, then it is part of that 3 bucks.

Thanks sack, you a-hole, now I have to buy a pizza too.

Izulde

03-31-2007, 06:51 PM

I'm tempted to order a pizza now, too. :mad:

But I won't, because I'm going to Pan's Labyrinth at the budget theatre in 2 hours.

cartman

03-31-2007, 06:54 PM

I live too far out in the boonies to get pizza delivered. So it's either frozen, or a 25 minute round trip to pick it up.

st.cronin

03-31-2007, 06:57 PM

I live too far out in the boonies to get pizza delivered. So it's either frozen, or a 25 minute round trip to pick it up.

ditto

Papa Murphys is the usual choice in our home.

14ers

03-31-2007, 07:02 PM

Guy shows up - 20 minutes early, even - and I pay for the pizza.

20 minutes early? What did they tell you on the phone? About 2 hours for delivery?

DaddyTorgo

03-31-2007, 07:08 PM

I live too far out in the boonies to get pizza delivered. So it's either frozen, or a 25 minute round trip to pick it up.

25 minute round trip? that's not horribly far out in the boonies. It's prolly 15 minutes or so round trip if we were to go pick up pizza here in town.

cartman

03-31-2007, 07:20 PM

25 minute round trip? that's not horribly far out in the boonies. It's prolly 15 minutes or so round trip if we were to go pick up pizza here in town.

Well, it is going from a town of 150 (Driftwood) to a town of 4,000 (Wimberley) for Pizza Hut or 2,000 (Dripping Springs) for Dominos. For Papa John's, it's a 45 minute round trip into South Austin.

For Pizza Hut or Dominos, it works out well. If I leave the house right after calling in the order, the pizza is just coming out of the oven when I get there.

Bearcat729

03-31-2007, 07:35 PM

A delivery charge doesn't always go to the driver. When I first started at Pizza Hut the charge was 75 cents which I got to keep. The company increased it to $1.00 which I got to keep 75 cents of. Now it's $2 which the company lets the driver keep $1.00 of.

Personally I think it's a crappy thing tro do because every time the delivery charge went up my tips dropped coupled with the number of deliveries I would get to take.

st.cronin

03-31-2007, 07:37 PM

The delivery charge here in Santa Fe is TEN dollars.

stevew

03-31-2007, 07:37 PM

I was only going to go with my standard 3 dollar tip(1.50 of it was eaten up by the delivery charge from PJ's). But as I was waiting for the Pizza outside I found 2 dollars in my pocket, felt bad, and gave it to him.

Note to self, put house number on my mailbox tomorrow....

stevew

03-31-2007, 07:38 PM

The delivery charge here in Santa Fe is TEN dollars.

Fuck that, I'll drive in.

st.cronin

03-31-2007, 07:39 PM

I have no idea how much of that, if any, the driver gets.

SackAttack

03-31-2007, 08:52 PM

20 minutes early? What did they tell you on the phone? About 2 hours for delivery?

Actually, they quoted about an hour.

Given that it was a Friday night and I ordered around 7 pm, that wasn't too bad.

Guy was there in about 40 minutes, which ain't bad.

I tipped him well. You gotta understand, growing up, we'd order pizza, have a bill of like $22, Mom would right a check for a bill plus a buck plus the rounded change. So if it was $22.38, the pizza guy would get $24. I can remember a couple of times tipping the guy an extra few bucks out of pocket and apologizing for my mom.

But last night was still weird having the guy just up and walk off like that. I wonder if he had kind of gotten used to folks who pay cash (which I seldom ever do - it's usually credit + write the tip into the receipt) stiffing him on the tip, so he just assumed he wasn't getting anything?

I've been thinking about it off and on since I created this thread, and I still can't come up with an answer that makes any sense.

cartman

03-31-2007, 08:55 PM

I've been thinking about it off and on since I created this thread, and I still can't come up with an answer that makes any sense.

My Penthouse Forum theory makes the most sense.

SackAttack

03-31-2007, 08:57 PM

Are you telling me my bare, hairy chest wasn't manly enough for him?

cartman

03-31-2007, 09:02 PM

Are you telling me my bare, hairy chest wasn't manly enough for him?

Like I said in my earlier post, call a plumber and report a problem. If the same guy comes out, my theory is confirmed.

JeeberD

04-01-2007, 06:42 AM

I think by and large the rule on takeout is that you needn't tip at all

Not true. But that's for a different day and a different thread...

JeeberD

04-01-2007, 06:44 AM

terpkristin

04-01-2007, 12:15 PM

I always tip my driver, either in the method of asking for less than they expect to give back or in the form of just handing them the total with tip, and saying "Thank You" to let them know I don't want change. The delivery around here is always hella late but I don't know how much of that I can blame on the driver and how much is just the incompetence of the pizza joint so the driver always gets between 2 and 3 from me, depending on how much I order.

/tk

cuervo72

04-01-2007, 03:04 PM

Dola-

I always figured that the $1.25 delivery charge that Pizza Hut charges went strictly to the restaurant, not to the driver. I'm curious how much of that the drivers get around here...

Probably won't change how much I tip unless I find out for certain, though...

Well, possibly a difference between restaurant take out and take out take out though. I mean, really Chipotle is not a whole lot different than say, Burger King (they make themselves look like they're snazzy, but it's essentially high falutin fast food). I think I'd have gotten laughed at if I requested a tip at BK.

JeeberD

04-01-2007, 04:22 PM

Well, possibly a difference between restaurant take out and take out take out though. I mean, really Chipotle is not a whole lot different than say, Burger King (they make themselves look like they're snazzy, but it's essentially high falutin fast food). I think I'd have gotten laughed at if I requested a tip at BK.

Very true. I missed that you were at Chipotle...