MalcPow
04-06-2007, 05:39 PM
This isn't going to be an extensive study, or anything of stunning insight, but I was scrolling through the Green Page in my current SP game and I was struck by how much it differed from my scout's perceptions of the respective players. I've got an excellent scout, especially when it comes to young players, and the ordering of the players on the Green Page was completely out of line with his assessments, and it's doubtful many of them would have even made the list had it been based on his judgment. I'm sure the GP is ordered by some kind of 'league average' perspective similar to the draft rating a player receives, but even still, the discrepancies are pretty stunning. Some of it can be accounted for by the fact that the game applies the same positional value adjustment to the list as it does in the draft (i.e. my rookie safety, now the highest rated player in the entire league by my scout's estimation at 90/90 is still sixth on the green page because he plays safety), but some of it raises the now common realization that scout error is a much bigger deal in 2k7. Like I said, nothing all that exciting to see here, just more food for thought on an issue that's become more and more obvious as we've had time to play more with the game.
It also raises another issue in a kind of secondary way, are AI teams really valuing players through the 'positional ranking' standard that seems to be applied in these lists or in the 'adjusted' column in the draft screen? Like I said above, my 90/90 rookie safety is rated 6th on the GP, behind a great rookie 35/88 QB prospect and a 75/75 RB who also looks very good, but the other three players in front of him are a DE, DT, and CB, all rated with potentials of 65-67 and currents in the 45-50 range. My safety has put up a monster year, and will probably be a first-team all pro, with 85 tackles, 8 picks, and an insane 86.7 PdP. He's an absolute impact player, and worth two 45-65 DE's in my mind, if not more. The rest of the Green Page is littered with these high 50's and low 60's potential OT, DL, and CB's, a handful of project QB's, and then at the bottom, an 84/84 safety who also looks very good. I guess we all know the answer to the original question is yes, this is an accurate reflection of how the AI values these players, but how do people feel about that? I know that beyond having the stud QB, it always pays to have elite players no matter the position, even if it's an awesome TE or FB or something. So open question, is this just right, or does it need to be tweaked? And what have been some of your best non-glamour position impact guys?
It also raises another issue in a kind of secondary way, are AI teams really valuing players through the 'positional ranking' standard that seems to be applied in these lists or in the 'adjusted' column in the draft screen? Like I said above, my 90/90 rookie safety is rated 6th on the GP, behind a great rookie 35/88 QB prospect and a 75/75 RB who also looks very good, but the other three players in front of him are a DE, DT, and CB, all rated with potentials of 65-67 and currents in the 45-50 range. My safety has put up a monster year, and will probably be a first-team all pro, with 85 tackles, 8 picks, and an insane 86.7 PdP. He's an absolute impact player, and worth two 45-65 DE's in my mind, if not more. The rest of the Green Page is littered with these high 50's and low 60's potential OT, DL, and CB's, a handful of project QB's, and then at the bottom, an 84/84 safety who also looks very good. I guess we all know the answer to the original question is yes, this is an accurate reflection of how the AI values these players, but how do people feel about that? I know that beyond having the stud QB, it always pays to have elite players no matter the position, even if it's an awesome TE or FB or something. So open question, is this just right, or does it need to be tweaked? And what have been some of your best non-glamour position impact guys?