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JetsIn06
05-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Ok guys...

I'm moving out of my apartment in a week and the other day the front door's deadbolt jammed. I got a new one, started to put the rest of the door back together, and now i'm stuck.

Basically, the outside part of the door is working okay. But then, I put the screws on to keep the outside part stable and in place, and then went to put the inside part of the knob on and i have no idea what to do. The thing is, there are no screws the go in from "outside" the mechanism, besides the two that keep the metal plate in place on the slim side of the door.

To keep the outside half of the knob on, there is a circular peice of metal that has 5 holes. There is one large circular hole in the middle, where the long metal peice goes through. There are two smaller holes to the right and left where the screws go through, and then there are two small rectangular holes, where two pieces of metal jut out of the inside half of the knob.

So I know that this circular piece of metal is used to somehow hold the inside knob in place, but I can't figure out how to get it to stay on. I put on the inside knob and it kind if just pops off.

Any help would be great, sorry about the awful explanation. I don't know any of the names for these pieces.

JetsIn06
05-26-2007, 04:06 PM
here are two pictures which hopefully will help you understand what I was saying. Here is one of the circular metal thing that is now in place in the door. All I have now is the doorknob itself....

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7262/dsc01778uk0.jpg

This is the bottom of the inside half of the doorknob. These two pieces attatch to each other. They must slide in place or something, but I've tried just about everything and nothing has worked.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/185/dsc01780ss4.jpg

Thanks again. Please help!

Glengoyne
05-26-2007, 04:07 PM
This is a gaming forum. No one here is handy with tools.

This should be a poll, just so we would be able to chronicle our ineptitude.

JetsIn06
05-26-2007, 04:09 PM
Yea, well I was hoping someone here recently installed a doorknob like this. It shouldn't be this difficult!

Swaggs
05-26-2007, 07:47 PM
At the risk of stating the obvious here: It looks like the inside base of the doorknob has "teeth" in inside it and that the piece that fits inside has notches for those teeth. I also notice that the inner piece looks like it his holes for the screws, so I am guessing it goes on the inside with the other knob that has screws (you don't want to screw through the base of the exterior, as then someone could just unscrew the knob and break in).

JetsIn06
05-26-2007, 08:37 PM
At the risk of stating the obvious here: It looks like the inside base of the doorknob has "teeth" in inside it and that the piece that fits inside has notches for those teeth. I also notice that the inner piece looks like it his holes for the screws, so I am guessing it goes on the inside with the other knob that has screws (you don't want to screw through the base of the exterior, as then someone could just unscrew the knob and break in).

Your damn right it looks like it obviously fits in. But it just doesn't work. I have tried it for the entire day, trying to get it to stay. The thing is, it fits, but then as soon as you pull it it just comes right off.

As for the holes, they do look like screwholes in the picture, but they aren't. They are just holes in the gold metal part, but no hole underneath.

Flasch186
05-26-2007, 08:45 PM
alright, cursorily there should be two very long screws that go all the way from the outside handle through the opening to stick out on the inside of the door. These two screws you may have to screw in to the "bottom" of the outside half, through the hole. The two longest screws.

The top half of the above picture should attach, with the teeth to the bottom picture. Then the holes that look curved, not the square ones, are where the heads of the two screws enter, a twist the opposite direction from the base of the knob, not the twisty part, should twist that shell into place "somewhat locking" the screws into place by sliding along the 2 holes tracks.

I believe in the top pic below the two longest screws are already in the exterior half of the knob....you can see the 2 smaller arms sticking out on both sides of the core of the knob.

Flasch186
05-26-2007, 08:47 PM
some clarifications:

http://www.extremehowto.com/xh/graphics/article_images/523200323543_knob5.jpg

http://www.extremehowto.com/xh/graphics/article_images/523200323323_knob3.jpg

Step two is different in that a plate is slipped over the preinstalled and aligned screws. Twist the plate into locking position and tighten the screws.

http://www.extremehowto.com/xh/graphics/article_images/523200323350_knob6.jpg

Doug5984
05-26-2007, 08:48 PM
i have put on a knob like this, not sure if it is the same... But with the one's I've done- you simply put it on...and turn it a little bit, and it holds in place that way.

If it keeps falling off, make sure none of the parts are broken that would be holding it in place.

Doug5984
05-26-2007, 08:48 PM
dola- what he said

JetsIn06
05-27-2007, 07:08 AM
alright, cursorily there should be two very long screws that go all the way from the outside handle through the opening to stick out on the inside of the door. These two screws you may have to screw in to the "bottom" of the outside half, through the hole. The two longest screws.

The top half of the above picture should attach, with the teeth to the bottom picture. Then the holes that look curved, not the square ones, are where the heads of the two screws enter, a twist the opposite direction from the base of the knob, not the twisty part, should twist that shell into place "somewhat locking" the screws into place by sliding along the 2 holes tracks.

I believe in the top pic below the two longest screws are already in the exterior half of the knob....you can see the 2 smaller arms sticking out on both sides of the core of the knob.


Thanks, but I've done all of that already. That weird looking thing with all the holes is on the door, screwed on. My problem is with the other knob, which should just be popped on to it

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4456/27589919yo7.jpg

as you can see, that thing is now on. There are little teeth sticking out, and it fits into the door, but I can't get it to lock on. That's where I'm stuck.

Flasch186
05-27-2007, 07:42 AM
it doesnt just pop on, you have to put it on then while pressing slightly, turn the knob unit to the left. There should be some stuff on the inside of it that lines up with the stuff on that metal bracket you have in the pic above.

y'know what else may be wrong.....you might have that bracket there installed backwards. try flipping it around and trying that so its in the same position just flipped so that side I see there is on the inside of the hole. just a thought.

Doug5984
05-27-2007, 01:11 PM
Its kind of a blurry picture, but Flasch is right. It might be backwards. Where your screws go in should go in, and it looks like yours poke out. Also, check the inside of the knob, and make sure all the "teeth" to hold it are there, and none are bent off...or broken. I have bought a broken door knob before.

Mustang
05-28-2007, 12:41 AM
You accidentally purchased a metric door knob, return it and get the English standard one.