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flere-imsaho
05-27-2007, 11:05 PM
It looks like we can knock another one of the "justifications" for invading Iraq off the list. As this article (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/28/world/middleeast/28exodus.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print)suggests, terrorist cells are using battle-hardened agents from Iraq to propagate attacks elsewhere. The notion, spread liberally by the Bush Administration, that we would be keeping the terrorists occupied in Iraq, appears to be false.

Some choice quotes:

"The Iraq war, which for years has drawn militants from around the world, is beginning to export fighters and the tactics they have honed in the insurgency to neighboring countries and beyond, according to American, European and Middle Eastern government officials and interviews with militant leaders in Lebanon, Jordan and London."

"In an April 17 report written for the United States government, Dennis Pluchinsky, a former senior intelligence analyst at the State Department, said battle-hardened militants from Iraq posed a greater threat to the West than extremists who trained in Afghanistan because Iraq had become a laboratory for urban guerrilla tactics."

“There are some operational parallels between the urban terrorist activity in Iraq and the urban environments in Europe and the United States,” Mr. Pluchinsky wrote. “More relevant terrorist skills are transferable from Iraq to Europe than from Afghanistan to Europe,” he went on, citing the use of safe houses, surveillance, bomb making and mortars."

EagleFan
05-27-2007, 11:30 PM
Damn!!! Did I miss something on the news and we were just the victim of a terrorist attack? I better go check CNN...

BYU 14
05-28-2007, 01:01 AM
Well, the administration couldn't find any weapons of mass destruction, so why not enable Iraq top train their own?

flere-imsaho
05-28-2007, 10:06 AM
Damn!!! Did I miss something on the news and we were just the victim of a terrorist attack? I better go check CNN...

Madrid? London? Consulate bombings in Morocco & Turkey? American compound bombings in Riyadh? I didn't realize these were parts of Iraq. My bad.

As for CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html):

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Terrorists were in the "final stages" of a plot to simultaneously blow up as many as 10 jets leaving Britain for the U.S., sending the planes and thousands of passengers into the Atlantic Ocean, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday.

But you're right - Iraq is keeping the international terrorists occupied. It's a good thing we lured them there for this purpose. Stupid terrorists - little did they know they could attack us anywhere!

Dutch
05-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Militants Widen Reach as Terror Seeps Out of Iraq </NYT_HEADLINE><NYT_BYLINE type=" " version="1.0">
By MICHAEL MOSS (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/michael_moss/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and SOUAD MEKHENNET


Slow down? There are terrorists in Iraq? Since when? I thought those were insurgents...

DaddyTorgo
05-28-2007, 12:18 PM
I saw Cheney speak on Saturday, and it was ridiculous some of the stuff he said. Particularly how he jumped from al qaeda to iraq in the span of one sentence and linked them. almost made me jump out of my chair screaming. fortunately I contained myself.

MJ4H
05-28-2007, 12:43 PM
Really. If you'd have actually gotten out of your chair, man, who knows!

DaddyTorgo
05-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Really. If you'd have actually gotten out of your chair, man, who knows!


I didn't finish the story cuz I was baiting ;). I was at West Point for my cousin's graduation. I don't think getting up and shouting would have gone over too well.

Dutch
05-28-2007, 01:59 PM
Somebody needs to tell Dick Cheney that Al Qaeda is a resistance group and blowing up civilians is socially acceptable if your opponents are capitalist dogs with loads of cash.

sachmo71
05-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Reliving 1975-1982 is going to be such a fun experience.