BATracer general discussion (also if you're looking for a teammate)

[FrogMan]

anybody up for an F1-2007 season with me. I just protected the Super Aguri team with password fofc in the public game of F1-2007. It's not a super team, but it looks like it can have extreme good performances...

Password good for 30 minutes I think...

FM

[SirFozzie]

I'm in, Frogz.. :D

[FrogMan]

was getting nervous :)

Welcome aboard, this should be fun.

FM

[FrogMan]

I've changed the title of the thread since I'm looking for another teammate.

The series is now the public F1 2002 series and I'm with BAR, password is good for 30 minutes and is fofc.

http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&15972

BAR is a middle of the road team and I'm only curious to see if I can do better than what Jacques Villeneuve did with that team. :)

FM

[FrogMan]

also, to get some talking going, what is your favorite series you've run in. I'm currently trying my luck as a single team driver in a V8 Supercars series and let me tell you, it's quite a challenge. We've done the two Adelaide races and we'll start having events with 3 races bundled together. The second one will always be a reverse grid start where you take the finishing position of the first race and reverse that order to give out starting position. Gonna cause some interesting interaction...

FM

[bbor]

I did a BTCC series and had my ass handed to me...definatly challenging.

[FrogMan]

I did a BTCC series and had my ass handed to me...definatly challenging.


funny, I'm currently in a BTCC production series and leading the championship after 3 races. That's where I got my first ever pole, then first ever win, in two separate races however.

The password has expired but the seat is still available if anybody is interested...

FM

[bbor]

funny, I'm currently in a BTCC production series and leading the championship after 3 races. That's where I got my first ever pole, then first ever win, in two separate races however.



FM

I uhh...pretty much hate you

:D

[Brillig]

So, anyone have any tips on driver settings? I've got some feel for the rest of the game but driver settings are darts on the wall at this point.

[FrogMan]

don't want to spoil it for SirFozzie, but I had to share this, the qualifying session at Bahrain...

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="95%" border=0><TBODY><TR id=ti><TD colSpan=2>Position
Runs
<TD>Driver <TD><TD>Team <TD>Time <TD><TR id=tha><TD id=tw>http://batracer.com/-h?59628&52 <TD>1
3 <TD>http://batracer.com/-i?69 (http://batracer.com/-uk) Steve Gougeon
Super Aguri <TD>http://batracer.com/-f?36 <TD>Super Aguri
Honda RA807E
Bridgestone <TD>1:30.302 <TD id=tw>http://batracer.com/-bV?S&9&10&2 <TR id=tb><TD id=tw>http://batracer.com/-h?9163&48 <TD>2
3 <TD>http://batracer.com/-i?69 (http://batracer.com/-uk) Tom Roblek
BMW Sauber <TD>http://batracer.com/-f?199 <TD>BMW Sauber
BMW P86/7
Bridgestone <TD>+0.047
1:30.349 <TD id=tw>http://batracer.com/-bV?S&9&4&2 <TR id=thb><TD id=tw>http://batracer.com/-h?55959&0 <TD>3
3 <TD>http://batracer.com/-i?69 (http://batracer.com/-uk) David Yellope
Super Aguri <TD>http://batracer.com/-f?281 <TD>Super Aguri
Honda RA807E
Bridgestone <TD>+0.200
1:30.502 <TD id=tw>http://batracer.com/-bV?S&9&10&2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Take that you Ferraris, McLaren and others... :D

FM

[vex]

I'm in 5 games right now. 2 I'm doing great in, 1 I'm doing good, and the other two, I don't want to talk about:)



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[Scoobz0202]

I kept skipping the BATracer threads in my lurking. Checked out a BATracer thread tonight and just joined my first public league. Game looks interesting. Opened up the Honda team, so here goes......

[SirFozzie]

Game ID is 15978 and there's no password.

If you have a Private Race open, feel free to join in. I'm on team honda

[FrogMan]

aww man, that's not nice. I've got 10 on my plate at the moment and there you are, tempting me like that... :)

I'll hold off a bit...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, did I tell ya I'm fairly addicted to this game... :D

FM

[DanGarion]

Game ID is 15978 and there's no password.

If you have a Private Race open, feel free to join in. I'm on team honda

I'm in.

I was just about to ask everyone what we are looking to do after the current Cart season is over.

[FrogMan]

I'm in.

I was just about to ask everyone what we are looking to do after the current Cart season is over.

I'm sure FOFCers can team up in plenty of private/public series on top of the regular FOFC series of the moment...

I'm enjoying working with SirFozzie in our Super Aguri series a whole lot at the moment.

FM

[SirFozzie]

Yeah, we're doing really well as a small team (Of course, our cars seem to be made of paper mache at times).. but it proves that if you work together well, the little guys can compete

[FrogMan]

Yeah, we're doing really well as a small team (Of course, our cars seem to be made of paper mache at times).. but it proves that if you work together well, the little guys can compete

yes, and you should take a look at the "have a gloat" threads in their forums. Always impressive to see a guy win a championship with a Spyker. :eek:

FM

[DanGarion]

I'm sure FOFCers can team up in plenty of private/public series on top of the regular FOFC series of the moment...

I'm enjoying working with SirFozzie in our Super Aguri series a whole lot at the moment.

FM

Yeah I joined the Williams team that Fozzie just posted. I'm sure it will be better then my last F1 series. My teammate has a lot of experience so that will either be a good thing, or it will go bad as he sours because of my playing style :).

[FrogMan]

oh, so Fozz is still all alone with his Honda then? hrm, tempting... :)

FM

[FrogMan]

one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...

FM

[FrogMan]

funny, I'm currently in a BTCC production series and leading the championship after 3 races. That's where I got my first ever pole, then first ever win, in two separate races however.

The password has expired but the seat is still available if anybody is interested...

FM

I uhh...pretty much hate you

:D

you can stop hating me, you transfered your hatred to my car today. Had 4 bad events in a race where I was trying to come from the back line. Had a bad start, 2 driver errors, and an engine problem that left me limping back home, bleh. Maybe I overdid it on the driving strategy sliders trying to gain all those positions back...

In my V8 series, I also had some mechanical problems and again limped back home, but it was very important that I did so. It was the first race of a three race weekend. The second race is that reverse grid I mentionned, however, only cars who finished the first race get to have their starting position reversed from their finishing position in the previous race, all the non finishers start from the back of the grid. Because of that, I will start 2nd tomorrow, in front of many much faster car. Should be fun... :D

FM

[DanGarion]

one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...

FM
Damn. That's a great one to know. I can't remember what I choose for this league...

[FrogMan]

Damn. That's a great one to know. I can't remember what I choose for this league...

go to season standings, then you can choose to see the driver characteristics for everyone. I need to do that for most my series, as I never remember which one has it...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

Game ID is 15978 and there's no password.

If you have a Private Race open, feel free to join in. I'm on team honda


You feel comfortable with a total newbie as a partner, or is that something you would prefer to have a more experienced partner in.

[SirFozzie]

I welcome everyone.. :)

[FrogMan]

good show on the third place Foz, right behind the two BMW Sauber, that's impressive...

Shame that my papier maché of a car had to break down, again...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, don't know about you, but I was cheering wildly when we both ended up in 1st and 2nd in lap 4 with you registering the fastest lap at the time. Yeah, it was only lap 4, but who cares, it was awesome... :D

Go Go Aguri!!!

FM

[FrogMan]

So, anyone have any tips on driver settings? I've got some feel for the rest of the game but driver settings are darts on the wall at this point.

It's still pretty much the darts thing for me too. I'm experimenting a lot. Depending on if my car is a dependable one or not, I might lower the mechanical sympathy slider. I've found that going above 80 on about any slider is sometimes a risky business.

The tyre use slider goes without saying I'd say. I base it on what my engineer says my tires will last. If he say they might last half the race and I plan only one stop, I'll lower it way down. But if he says half the race and I plan on two stops, then I'll push it to above 70, since the tires now only have to last a third of the race each.

I guess we're all pretty much trying stuff at this point...

FM

[Brillig]

I'm getting a little more feel for the sliders. Pace and aggression seem okay set high (70-ish). Mech sympathy is very touchy, I've been setting that down to 35 and have had some clean races now. Even at 50 it was problematic.
I learned to crank the wet tire use, since they don't wear down much at all. Obvious but I missed it the first time.
Pit stops are also pretty touchy. I had problems at 60, have tried 55 which seems better. There also seems to be a trend for lower mechanic settings, but I haven't had issues leaving it at 50.
Dunno about the start.

[DanGarion]

go to season standings, then you can choose to see the driver characteristics for everyone. I need to do that for most my series, as I never remember which one has it...

FM

Nice I picked thinker. And speed demon.

[FrogMan]

if anybody wants to cherry pick, an F1 2002 public series just opened, only one Ferrari taken and nothing else...

I'm never around when they open new ones, and when I am, I've got no more public game slots left, heh.

FM

[Alan T]

if anybody wants to cherry pick, an F1 2002 public series just opened, only one Ferrari taken and nothing else...

I'm never around when they open new ones, and when I am, I've got no more public game slots left, heh.

FM
No thanks,
no desire to be Mj curtis's team mate :)

[FrogMan]

dola, posting that thing reminded me of something I wanted to post. Car comparisons I've saved as cheat sheets so far for two F1 carsets...

Here's the F1 2002:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/QcFrogMan/BATracer/comparisonsF1-2002.gif

And the F1 2007:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/QcFrogMan/BATracer/comparisonsF1-2007.gif

And here's the legend explaining things:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/QcFrogMan/BATracer/comparisonslegend.gif

You can find them by going under "Results", "Car Comparion" in a series. Some series don't have them, like ChampCar or A1GP (where all cars are exactly the same), but it helps when you have one, at least you know what you are getting into.

Looking at that, you can also appreciate why SirFozzie and me are happy being competitive even just a little bit while driving the Super Aguri team...

Don't mind the points and yellow backgrounds, they represent points in my series and the yellow is for the team I was driving at the moment I took the screenie...

FM

[FrogMan]

No thanks,
no desire to be Mj curtis's team mate :)


Don't know him and would probably have looked around before signing up. My point was more that a couple other very good teams were available in that series and somebody could have locked one up with a password to team up with another FOFCer... :)

FM

[Brillig]

Yeah, the cherry-picking... is a problem. If they fixed that I'd buy KT. Well, that and the 'idiot teammate' problem.

[Brillig]

one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...

FM

Interesting that in your A1GP dynasty, no one chose Thinker. You'd think that'd be of the most use when you don't have a teammate.

[kingfc22]

Well, I might have my internet issue solved after a month of frustration.

Time to get back in this.

[SirFozzie]

BTW, CART guys?

It's not demolition derby, you know.

[Scoobz0202]

I welcome everyone.. :)

Ah, I logged off just before you responded and see somebody already grabbed the spot. Will have to try harder next time :)

[vex]

A1GP is KILLING me. I'm in freakin last place.

[FrogMan]

Interesting that in your A1GP dynasty, no one chose Thinker. You'd think that'd be of the most use when you don't have a teammate.

Thinker and charismatic are not available in the A1GP, or else, I would have picked it :)

FM

[Brillig]

What the heck does charismatic do? Keep your teammate from being a tool?? :)

[FrogMan]

What the heck does charismatic do? Keep your teammate from being a tool?? :)

here are all the traits...
Mechanical Sympathy. You are able to gently stroke and convince your car home to the finish line.

Wet Weather Warrior. In wet conditions you really shine, able to put in a fast lap and attack the competition regardless.

Pole Sitter King. One off fast laps are your speciality - enjoy a healthy bonus during your fight for pole and find speed when you need it most in a race.

Speed Demon. You don't shine in one particular area: but instead are generally fast be it dry, wet or going for pole.

Consistent. Being able to setup a good rhythm allows you to stay within your limits: and on the track.

Super Fit. Taking personal fitness to the extreme gives you great stamina throughout the duration of an entire race.

Concentration. When out on the circuit on your own you can turn in a steady state of speed without the visible benchmark of another car.

Lucky. More often than not, you always seem to avoid the worst share of luck in your team.

Committed. You have full belief in yourself, your car and your team - and this shows in your ultimate results.

Cool. In the thick of the action you are at your best, being able to overtake and pull off difficult manouveres.

Aggressive. Battling for position your opponents should beware - you won't think twice about letting them know who is boss.

Control Freak. As the lights turn green your opponents can't see you for dust as you perfectly judge clutch, throttle and available traction.

Wisdom. Experience from countless competitive events makes you a formidable foe to your rivals.

Spatial Awareness. You are able to judge your car perfectly allowing for every inch of the track to be used, and every overtaking opportunity to be exploited.

Bender. Bending the rules is your game - if there is a loop hole you can and will exploit it!



Thinker. Correctly analysing your car and it's setup is a great strength to have.

Charisma. People love you and just want to help out: you always get the most attention from your team.

I'm guessing it means faster pitstops as your crew will like to work for you...

FM

[SirFozzie]

Either that or you get more practice runs then your teammate

[DanGarion]

BTW, CART guys?

It's not demolition derby, you know.

Fricken breaks!

[Brillig]

here are all the traits...


I'm guessing it means faster pitstops as your crew will like to work for you...

FM

Heh, it sounded useless to me, I was wondering if you had some inside scoop on it since you said you would have picked it...

[kurtism]

Firing up a public ChampCar team, password protected for 30 minutes under "Dola"

[FrogMan]

Heh, it sounded useless to me, I was wondering if you had some inside scoop on it since you said you would have picked it...


nope, meant I would have picked thinker in a single driver team for sure. Don't care much about charismatic as it.s too vague for me...

FM

[Alan T]

Firing up a public ChampCar team, password protected for 30 minutes under "Dola"


I joined up with you as spot #2.

[kurtism]

Welcome aboard, Alan!

[Emiliano]

Just registered, gotta try this one out.

[Emiliano]

Joined a new F1 2007 league, I'm in the Honda. Still looking for teammate, password is fofc, good for 30 minutes.

And BTW, wow, a lot of setup to do!

[Emiliano]

9th in my first practice with the Honda, not bad.

[FrogMan]

welcome aboard Emiliano :)

You'll see that the setting up of the car will become a bit mechanical after a while, the whole race strategy thing is a lot of fun too.

Oh, and practice times don't always transfer directly to qualifying and/or race times. I usually do all of my practice/warmup runs on the same set of worn out tires in order to save all my other tires for the race/qualifying laps, so I sometimes appear slower in practice...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

First race was tonight. FI2007. My honda drove out of Melbourne with 5th place. Pretty pleased with that for my first race ever.


edit: also notice I had the second best setup. Sweet.

[Emiliano]

welcome aboard Emiliano :)

Thanks!

You'll see that the setting up of the car will become a bit mechanical after a while, the whole race strategy thing is a lot of fun too.

Oh, and practice times don't always transfer directly to qualifying and/or race times. I usually do all of my practice/warmup runs on the same set of worn out tires in order to save all my other tires for the race/qualifying laps, so I sometimes appear slower in practice...

FM

Yeah, that's what I realized after having "heat cycled" all my 3 slick sets...;) What a n00b!!!

Anyway, this should be fun. Why don't we start a private fofc league??? Whatever series you guys want is ok for me, although I'd prefer F1...

[Alan T]

Thanks!



Yeah, that's what I realized after having "heat cycled" all my 3 slick sets...;) What a n00b!!!

Anyway, this should be fun. Why don't we start a private fofc league??? Whatever series you guys want is ok for me, although I'd prefer F1...

We currently have a private league running right now in champ car (we did F1 previously). Since the majority of players can only be in one private game at a time, we'll likely start a new one when that one wraps up. Would love to have you join in it too (whatever series we play) :)

[Emiliano]

We currently have a private league running right now in champ car (we did F1 previously). Since the majority of players can only be in one private game at a time, we'll likely start a new one when that one wraps up. Would love to have you join in it too (whatever series we play) :)

Nice! BTW, I'm only in a public game right now, so if there's a spot open...;)

[Breeze]

I got a private league I'm in (2006 F1), if you are interested:

ID = 15979
PWD = forza

[FrogMan]

First race was tonight. FI2007. My honda drove out of Melbourne with 5th place. Pretty pleased with that for my first race ever.


edit: also notice I had the second best setup. Sweet.

Watching races lap by lap is great, I love the suspense.

One of the things I really like about this game overall is that unless you are really stupid and push all the sliders all the way up, the learning curve isn't too steep that you have to go through a few seasons of complete suckage before you achieve something nice.

FM

[Scoobz0202]

That was definitely the best part. I was 2nd going into the last ten or so laps I believe. I was about .3 seconds behind the leader. I was definitely a little antsy. Of course, my little honda could only hold off the other Ferrari (The other one won the race, after leading 53 of the 58 laps), a McLaren, and a Toyota (:( ) for so long.

[kingfc22]

I just created a team in the public V8 supercars series. Need a teammate

ID: 16074
PW: fofc

[Emiliano]

I got a private league I'm in (2006 F1), if you are interested:

ID = 15979
PWD = forza

Hey thanks Breeze! I see you haven't filled all the spots yet. I'm tempted to join (it's also a 2006 league, so slightly different rules from 2007 right???), although maybe I should wait and save my private spot for the fofc league, if we actually start one. Don't know.

My only concern with the game is: 2 days=1 race? That's about a month for a season. Wouldn't be better to make things a little quicker? I mean, you qualify, you obviously did your setup, you're good to go. Anyway, good time-waster.

[Mr. Wednesday]

also, to get some talking going, what is your favorite series you've run in.
I like V8s a lot -- relatively similar cars means that there's no issues of cherry-picking, reverse grid races give everyone a shot at a result. The point structure makes the strategy there different than in some other carsets.

LMES is an interesting change from the other series, but my experience in LMP1 and LMP2 is that there doesn't tend to be a lot of action in the races.

7s are fun for the live qualifying.

[Mr. Wednesday]

one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...
It's great to have a thinker for a teammate.

When you're the one with it, you have the opportunity cost of foregoing a speed- or reliability-related characteristic. I'd still consider taking it in F1 (particularly if I don't know about trusting my teammate), and strongly consider it in LMES (where I think you can get away with only using two drivers in every race).

[Mr. Wednesday]

So, anyone have any tips on driver settings?

I think you'll find that you need to run at least in the 70-80 range on the pace slider to be competitive in most public series. I move this around depending on how I feel about my pace relative to the pack, as well as my position in the field -- starting from the back in an A1 feature race, say, where only the top 10 places pay and there's no additional consequences for crashing out, I'm going to go at a high pace to try to sneak back into the points.

I typically run with medium-high aggression, say around 65 or so. I've never really figured what the trade-off on that setting is... at higher aggression, do I get more passes and blocks but with greater risk of collision?

Tyres depends on how much I expect them to wear. Hards in F1, I run at 100. Many V8 races, I'll run 80 to 90. Softs in champ car, I run around 65. Only time I've run below 50 is one or two of the LMES races, where on certain tyre manufacturers you won't make it through the race at 50 (you'll know by the engineer saying 20% of the race when you only have three stops).

Mechanical sympathy I usually run quite low, say 15 to 20.

Pit settings, I vary a bit depending on the circumstances, and I always run with a higher driver setting than pit crew because a driver error costs a LOT less than a crew error.

Start slider, I swing depending on where I qualified. As with pace, if you start at the back of the field, there's not much to lose trying for a hole shot.

[Mr. Wednesday]

My only concern with the game is: 2 days=1 race? That's about a month for a season.
It's the standard. Means everyone only has to have time once a day in order to keep up minimally, although it's better when you can get on a couple of times so that you can also apply whatever your teammate found.

V8s are usually four days for three races, but with the long calendar, it still takes 45 days to get through them.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Multi-dola, a couple more general things:
* Per Jules, control freak means that you can run at 100 start slider and have no incidents IIRC, per Jules, committed is a plus-speed characteristic that is worth a couple tenths per lap.

* For most of the settings on the car, the engineer's advice tells you where the average will lie (or the setting itself if there's not front and rear). Low, soft, and short are 0 to 33, medium is 33 to 67, high, hard, and stiff is 66 to 100. You can use this knowledge to your advantage when testing, it can help you reduce the possible range of values for a setting. e.g. if something is medium, one is spot on at 38, the other won't be below 30.

* For the special settings, the full wet adjustment is typically -10. That includes wheel stagger in CART, rollcenter in V8s, and splitter in LMES.

[Brillig]

Anyone know whether the driver settings are relative or absolute?

I.e., do I need to crank the settings down for a tough venue such as Monaco?

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't know if you're more likely to make an error at a "difficult" venue. I don't think, offhand, I've been struck by abnormally high retirement rates at Monaco, though... take that for what it's worth.

I usually do dial my settings back a bit at Michigan in the Champcar series, as that really does tend to have high retirement rates -- possibly due to the length of the race (25% longer than the other ovals) rather than the venue.

[Emiliano]

Damn! In my first race (F1 2007) I made a driver error on lap 33 that forced me to retire. I was 5th. :(

[Emiliano]

BTW, the lap-by-lap is really tight.

Does any of you have the "Kool Tools"? I'm thinking about getting 'em.

[Alan T]

BTW, the lap-by-lap is really tight.

Does any of you have the "Kool Tools"? I'm thinking about getting 'em.

I have them. They are handy if you like the game enough to play it alot. Its not like it costs much money. It lets you play in more games at once (instead of just 1 public and 1 private at a time) which is nice. Has some other features, most of which isn't a big deal unless your teammate doesn't cooperate. The best tool it comes with is for wet -> dry weather conversion, but once again its nothing that you couldn't do the math for without it if you wanted.

Basically if you like the game, and intend to play it alot, spring the $5 or whatever it is to support the guy making it and you then can play more :)

[Emiliano]

Basically if you like the game, and intend to play it alot, spring the $5 or whatever it is to support the guy making it and you then can play more :)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Plus, since the pace of the game is quite slow, having more slots to play different leagues is very useful. I think I'll get 'em.

[FrogMan]

yeah, being able to run more series is one big plus. That way, you have something happening in each of your series every day, maybe half of them being races to watch and the other half being simply qualifying results to eagerly wait for. :)

The thing I like most about KT is that you see your teammates' min/max values. Even if your teammates are super communicative and all, if you don't see their min/max value, you have to write them down somewhere or remember them. With KT, it's all stacked on top of one another. Even more helpful in three driver teams, like the ChampCar we're currently running for FOFC...

FM

[vex]

Basically if you like the game, and intend to play it alot, spring the $5 or whatever it is to support the guy making it and you then can play more :)


When did you pay, 1962? It's $20 now:p

[Emiliano]

Just payed € 14. I'm joining an A1 league right now! Plenty of spots left.

[Emiliano]

Btw guys, which exactly is the "thinker" characteristic? I can't find it in the list.

[FrogMan]

it's not available in A1GP... read my post earlier ;)

and read my dynasty, but be ready, A1GP is a challenge...

FM

[Emiliano]

it's not available in A1GP... read my post earlier ;)

Oh, I see.

and read my dynasty, but be ready, A1GP is a challenge...

FM

Yeah, I'm reading it. That's why I got into it! :) Also, the A1GP is a great series to watch in TV. Did you ever watch it? Less technical, but a lot of fun.

[FrogMan]

Yeah, I'm reading it. That's why I got into it! :) Also, the A1GP is a great series to watch in TV. Did you ever watch it? Less technical, but a lot of fun.

nah, I had never even heard of it. It must make for an interesting series though, with all cars being exactly the same...

FM

[Alan T]

nah, I had never even heard of it. It must make for an interesting series though, with all cars being exactly the same...

FM


For some reason, the A1 series are starting to annoy me. I think you and I are both in the same ones, and yeah I won the race last night.. but just the setup has gotten to grate on my nerves some. With very little pitting and it all being about getting a good qualifying just is annoying me.

I'm sure its just because somehow i ended up in 2 A1 races at a time, so it feels like 1/4th of my games are A1 and once I don't play one for a while I'll like it better :)

[FrogMan]

that's about my feeling with them too and I also was thinking that maybe it's because I'm also in two of them at the same time.

A driver I teamed up with is heading something called the Pacific Challenge in which they basically do an A1GP setup but with the ChampCar carset and teams of three. They are all forced to take all the same chassis/engine/tires. I just joined a team with two veteran drivers (i.e. 800+ public race starts) and it should be interesting to see how it unfolds...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, one thing's for sure, with the ChampCar setup, there'll be a bit more strategizing...

FM

[Alan T]

I think what I have found is the games where I have an active teammate, regardless of the series I enjoy more than games I don't regardless of the series. That might be one reason A1 is getting to me. No teammate at all, and I do fairly well on my own, but I like the chit chat too.

[SirFozzie]

BTW. Nice win despite the last lap error Tee :)

[Alan T]

BTW. Nice win despite the last lap error Tee :)

Yeah, I actually am not sure what is up with that. I was gaining time on the #2 car for several laps (about .250 seconds each lap I would gain), but the last lap i had the driver error, that did about 60% damage to my car, yet I gained almost 1/2 of a second the last lap which is double what I had been gaining. (plus had the fastest lap of the race there).

So I'm not sure if there had been another lap following it would have been disasterous or not. It said my error occured in turn 5, which isn't even half way through the lap.. So I'm a bit baffled by it, but not complaining :)

[vex]

I HATE A1.

[Alan T]

I am actually getting the craving to do more F1 2007 again. I only have 2 games right now that I'm playing F1 2007. one I'm 1st place in a ferrari (which isn't too difficult), and the other i am 15th place in a toyota with a teammate who doesn't ever do much of anything. I'm enjoying that challenge a bit more as every race feels like an uphill climb.

[FrogMan]

I think what I have found is the games where I have an active teammate, regardless of the series I enjoy more than games I don't regardless of the series. That might be one reason A1 is getting to me. No teammate at all, and I do fairly well on my own, but I like the chit chat too.


Agreed, having an active teammate makes a big difference and also gives you another driver to follow in the lap by lap of the race. I also gotta say I looove my V8 series with the single driver Paul Cruickshank Racing team. It's a heck of a challenge, being all alone, trying to set up that unresponsive b*tch of a V8 supercar, but the series throws curves at you, like that reverse grid start, and you sorta have to avoid retiring at all cost, cause every position makes points...

FM

[FrogMan]

A driver I teamed up with is heading something called the Pacific Challenge in which they basically do an A1GP setup but with the ChampCar carset and teams of three. They are all forced to take all the same chassis/engine/tires. I just joined a team with two veteran drivers (i.e. 800+ public race starts) and it should be interesting to see how it unfolds...


regarding that, the guy running that thing just posted this on the BATracer private series forum:
We have one team needing 1 driver, one team needing 2 drivers, and we had a complete team quit, so we need a full team of three as well.

Anyone interested, we are running Lola-Honda-Goodyear this season. The winner of each season chooses the carset for the following season, very competitive, and very fun game! A Special Thanks to those who have joined us or have raced with us before!


link to the thread:
http://forum.batracer.com/$1N//-ff?-fi?10&../3JN/-ft&../3JN/-fm?B

Visit the thread and you'll have the name of the guy in charge, his name is Ron Campbell.

If you guys feel like putting together a serious FOFC team, this could be fun :)

FM

[Alan T]

Hmm if two others have private slots open, I'd be up for trying to get a fofc team of 3 together for it.

[SnDvls]

Hmm if two others have private slots open, I'd be up for trying to get a fofc team of 3 together for it.

I'd join

[FrogMan]

I see that SirFozzie has posted in that thread. I will vouch for you to Ron guys. :)

FM

[Brillig]

Sure, I've got my private race slot still open

[vex]

Posted on the board there, too late though I see :)

[FrogMan]

Posted on the board there, too late though I see :)

well, maybe for the all FOFC team, but he's also said that one team need one driver and another needs two. From my chatting with my teammates, it's a very fun series and it seems to be highly regarded. Whoever you would team up with who's already in a team, I'm sure it would be just as much fun. I know the guys I'm with are very friendly.

FM

[Scoobz0202]

I would join a FOFC team.

[kingfc22]

I'd join a team as well

[Scoobz0202]

Anybody know when the private FOFC game is going to be done? Cause so far we have five with open spots.

[SnDvls]

I (or someone with more knowledge than I) could create one if we get a few more interested

[Scoobz0202]

Yeah, I'm not sure if we have enough left overs to create another one. If the league that is going on right now is going to be over within a week or so then we can just wait. That way we have a full league. If we start a new one with fewer people then the other league will finish while we are in the middle of ours.

[SnDvls]

we're about half way throught it right now

[FrogMan]

Yeah, I'm not sure if we have enough left overs to create another one. If the league that is going on right now is going to be over within a week or so then we can just wait. That way we have a full league. If we start a new one with fewer people then the other league will finish while we are in the middle of ours.


as per my calculations, the current FOFC IndyCar we have going on will run its last race on July 28, so you still got some time to go...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

Hmm.. How many private slots do you get with Kool Tools? Working with only one private slot is a bitch.

[FrogMan]

Hmm.. How many private slots do you get with Kool Tools? Working with only one private slot is a bitch.

you get 4 slots of each (private, public, midseason) for a total of 12 active games at the same time.

I currently have 10 spots filled...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

Woah.. Now that is sweet.

I am currently in just one public game and I catch myself checking BATracer 4 or 5 times a day, even though there is no reason to. I just keep getting antsy.

3 hours and 15 minutes till my next race :)

[FrogMan]

yeah, it's sweet. Pretty much means that, as I said before, there's something happening in a series every few hours, with usually a few things to check when I log on in the morning...

FM

[MikeVic]

I haven't looked into this, but can you race "normal" cars? Like, on the Speed channel they'll show races with Nissan 350Zs racing, or Subaru Imprezas in rallys. Things like that...

Or is it strictly NASCAR and F1-type races?

[Scoobz0202]

They have the different types of series on their main page.

hxxp://batracer.com/

I'm new to this, but the closest thing I see to what you are looking for is this.

hxxp://batracer.com/-gc?btcc_g

[vex]

I have an open private slot and would be interested in another league.

[FrogMan]

I haven't looked into this, but can you race "normal" cars? Like, on the Speed channel they'll show races with Nissan 350Zs racing, or Subaru Imprezas in rallys. Things like that...

Or is it strictly NASCAR and F1-type races?

as scoobz posted, the BTCC series would be more like what you're describing. It's got a touring and a production side, both competing their race at the same time. For example, I'm in a BTCC series driving an Alfa Romeo 156 in the production side of things. I won a race inproduction, yet finished 15th overall, so there were some faster cars that had to deal with us, lowly production cars...

here's a sample of the cars you can pick in a BTCC series:
<TABLE id=t cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" border=0><TBODY><TR id=ti><TD colSpan=2>Touring <TR id=tb><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?19</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Astra Coupe (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&0) ]
<TABLE id=tb width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?22 <TD width="100%">Dominant Vauxhall Astra Coupe. 2ltr 16v Engine: 275bhp @ 8500 rpm; 280 Nm at 7000 rpm. 10 setup parameters.
www.vauxhall.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.vauxhall.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=ta><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?20</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: MG ZS (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&1) ]
<TABLE id=ta width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?15 <TD width="100%">The MG Rover Group ZS turns an impressive pace. 24v V6 revving to 8500rpm and producing c270Ps. 10 setup parameters.
www.mgcars.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.mgcars.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=tb><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?21</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Proton Impian (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&2) ]
<TABLE id=tb width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?21 <TD width="100%">This Proton can offer some surprises to it's opponents. Mountune prepared 2.0ltr 4 cylinder 16v engine. 10 setup parameters.
www.proton.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.proton.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=ta><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?22</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Civic Type R (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&3) ]
<TABLE id=ta width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?4 <TD width="100%">A formidable hatchback makes a competent racer. 2.0ltr straight four cylinder 16v engine producing some 280bhp. 10 setup parameters.
www.honda.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.honda.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=tb><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?23</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: 406 Coupe (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&4) ]
<TABLE id=tb width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?20 <TD width="100%">For many, one of the most attractive and desirable cars in the field. 270bhp from 2.0ltr 4 cylinder engine. 10 setup parameters.
www.peugeot.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.peugeot.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Create a New Team

Select a Car:

<TABLE id=t cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" border=0><TBODY><TR id=ti><TD colSpan=2>Production <TR id=ta><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?24</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Renault Clio (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&5) ]
<TABLE id=ta width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?3 <TD width="100%">Ferocious little racer. 2ltr 4 cylinder engine. 5 setup parameters.
www.renault.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.renault.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=tb><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?25</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Alfa Romeo 156 (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&6) ]
<TABLE id=tb width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?19 <TD width="100%">Bring Italian flair to the British Touring Car Championship. Janspeed prepared Alfa twin-spark 2ltr 16v engine. 5 setup parameters.
www.alfaromeo.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.alfaromeo.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=ta><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?26</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Honda Civic (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&7) ]
<TABLE id=ta width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?4 <TD width="100%">Production variant of the Touring class car. 2.0ltr straight four cylinder 16v engine. 5 setup parameters.
www.honda.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.honda.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=tb><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?27</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Honda Accord (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&8) ]
<TABLE id=tb width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?4 <TD width="100%">This more traditional Honda saloon has been a highly competitive racer in past championships. 220bhp. 5 setup parameters.
www.honda.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.honda.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=ta><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?28</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: Peugeot 306 (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&9) ]
<TABLE id=ta width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?20 <TD width="100%">Highly successfull in many other categories. 2.0ltr 16v straight 4. 5 setup parameters.
www.peugeot.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.peugeot.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TR id=tb><TD><CENTER>http://batracer.com/-bP?29</CENTER><TD vAlign=top>[ Select: BMW 320i (http://batracer.com/-cj?N&E&16122&10) ]
<TABLE id=tb width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>http://batracer.com/-bL?1 <TD width="100%">Rear wheel drive German saloon should give the front drivers something to worry about. 2ltr 24v straight 6 cylinder developing 240bhp. 5 setup parameters.
www.bmw.co.uk (http://batracer.com/-gE?www.bmw.co.uk)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
FM

[Emiliano]

Who wants to join me in Ferrari in a 1986 F1 private game?

ID:16099
game password:1986
team-protected password:fofc

[Brillig]

Who wants to join me in Ferrari in a 1986 F1 private game?

ID:16099
game password:1986
team-protected password:fofc

I'm in. :D

[Emiliano]

I'm in. :D

Nice!

[FrogMan]

dang, say Ferrari and the sharks appear in no time :D

FM

[Emiliano]

dang, say Ferrari and the sharks appear in no time :D

FM

Yeah! Plenty of spots left, tough... If you want to join... Looks like an interesting, old-school series.

[FrogMan]

I already got 10 going, that would fill my 4th private spot, so I'll wait for now. Also, I usually like to learn about a series in a midseason spot and since I've never ran in an F1-1986 series before, I'll try to do that before entering one....

FM

[SirFozzie]

SnDvls, AlanT... you have an IM for it. You guys want to do a Dynasty?

[FrogMan]

SnDvls, AlanT... you have an IM for it. You guys want to do a Dynasty?

did Ron formally give you that team?

FM

[FrogMan]

silly me, only after posting here did I think about checking the series page. Cool!

I also see that vex got in with Scribble Racing.

FM

[DanGarion]

Never did a supercar series but decided to try out a public one.

V8 Supercars 2006 #16128
Car:
Garry Rogers Motorsport
Engine:
Holden
Tyre:
Dunlop
Password is fofc is someone wants to be my teammate (you have 30 minutes).

It's a longer series lasting 47 days.

[SnDvls]

SnDvls, AlanT... you have an IM for it. You guys want to do a Dynasty?

sure

[Alan T]

SnDvls, AlanT... you have an IM for it. You guys want to do a Dynasty?


Yeah sounds good!

[vex]

silly me, only after posting here did I think about checking the series page. Cool!

I also see that vex got in with Scribble Racing.

FM


I even have one good teammate:)

[MikeVic]

I joined a public BTCC series... I see a number of cars have already run practices, but I can't seem to figure out how?

[vex]

Goto car setup.

[SirFozzie]

Any race you can finish 2nd as Team Super Aguri is an awesome race. I was hoping that we could somehow get first, but I'll take it..

GO GO AGURI!

[Emiliano]

Mmm... First A1 Qualifying: last. I see what FrogMan was talking about...:D

[Emiliano]

Oh, I forgot: I have 8/10 ... from the 23rd! Damn.

[FrogMan]

Any race you can finish 2nd as Team Super Aguri is an awesome race. I was hoping that we could somehow get first, but I'll take it..

GO GO AGURI!

that was an awesome race, and at Monaco of all places, well done sir!

Me, I hope the fact I'm coming home to Montreal will finally rid me of all bad luck. Dang bad starts are killing me...

FM

[MikeVic]

Are you guys all in one private league or something?

[FrogMan]

Are you guys all in one private league or something?

The one that me and SirFozzie are talking about is an F1 2007 series where we are teammate in teh Super Aguri team.

The other one, where they are talking about making a dynasty out of it is one I found, organized by a veteran of BATracer. It's basically a ChampCar kind of series where everybody is forced to take the exact same car/engine/tire setup with 8 teams of 8 fighting it out in a private league. Me and vex ar both part of existing teams (separate teams) and the other three have been granted a team of their own...

FM

[Lonnie]

After seeing this thread run by a few times I signed up. I have to do some academy races first. Right now I am in 16122 a BTCC series running a Puegeot 306 in production. I just joined the first open team and luckily my team leader had a decent setup going, because I screwed up practice pretty good. By the time I figured it out I only had 2 sessions left then it said I screwed up and wasted my last one, so I only narrowed down one setting more than my leader.

[Brillig]

Finally got my first podium! 3rd in a Spyker at Barcelona. I had second right up til the end, until a freaking Ferrari nipped by me by two tenths.

If it were interactive, I would have rammed the SOB. :P

[vex]

The one that me and SirFozzie are talking about is an F1 2007 series where we are teammate in teh Super Aguri team.

The other one, where they are talking about making a dynasty out of it is one I found, organized by a veteran of BATracer. It's basically a ChampCar kind of series where everybody is forced to take the exact same car/engine/tire setup with 8 teams of 8 fighting it out in a private league. Me and vex ar both part of existing teams (separate teams) and the other three have been granted a team of their own...

FM

It get killed?

[FrogMan]

somebody got in that wasn't supposed to. Contact Ron Campbell or one of your teammates for the new game number & new password.

FM

[Alan T]

Hmm, didnt get a new password, and tried to message him for it, but no response. I'm heading out for the day soon too. so Guess I'll get it later tonight

[Emiliano]

Who wants to join a Le Mans Endurance series? I'm in, with a Ferrari 550. Game number is 16167, password is fofc.

[kingfc22]

Anybody good at designing helmets?

[Emiliano]

Just joined a private V8 Supercars 2006. Game number is 15898, no password required. Plenty of spots left.

[FrogMan]

Just joined a private V8 Supercars 2006. Game number is 15898, no password required. Plenty of spots left.

That Tasman Motorsports team will be an italiano-canadian one my friend... :)

I'm currently in one V8 series as a single driver team, will be interesting to see if I (and we) can do better as a team driver. I'm 11th after 8 races in that series.

Points are given to all finishers so being able to simply make it to the finish is always nice, especially in the first race of a three race event, with the second race being a reverse grid start among the finishers...

FM

[Emiliano]

That Tasman Motorsports team will be an italiano-canadian one my friend... :)

I'm currently in one V8 series as a single driver team, will be interesting to see if I (and we) can do better as a team driver. I'm 11th after 8 races in that series.

Points are given to all finishers so being able to simply make it to the finish is always nice, especially in the first race of a three race event, with the second race being a reverse grid start among the finishers...

FM

Woot! Nice. :)

[vex]

<TABLE id=t cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR id=ti><TD><CENTER>Competitors Online</CENTER><TR><TD id=ib><TABLE id=mm cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><COLGROUP span=2 align=middle><TBODY><TR id=ti><TD colSpan=2>Neglect Racing <TR><TD bgColor=white>http://batracer.com/-h?59628&52 <TD id=xa>http://batracer.com/-i?69 (http://batracer.com/-uk) Steve Gougeon <TR id=ti><TD colSpan=2>Scribble Racing <TR><TD bgColor=white>http://batracer.com/-h?59399&31 <TD id=xb>http://batracer.com/-i?69 (http://batracer.com/-uk) Will Brown <TR id=ti><TD colSpan=2>Front Office Racing <TR><TD bgColor=white>http://batracer.com/-h?56192&0 <TD id=xa>http://batracer.com/-i?69 (http://batracer.com/-uk) Alan Tee</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Shocking, I tell ya:)

[FrogMan]

addicts, I tell ya. Where do I check in for the rehab again?







should I really mention that I just signed up for my 11th active game and I'm looking for a mid-season Le Mans to try the series???

:D

FM

[vex]

I like Le Mans a lot, even though I'm doing BADLY at it.

I have waaay too many games.

Once these are done I'm cutting it down to:

FOFC series
BTTC
Le Mans
and then some private competion such as prc.
and MAYBE a '07 F1.

[Alan T]

I already cut my games back to only playing games that are FOFC only, or a good number of FOFc players, or a teammate with an active fofc player. I was at 11 games for a while myself. Just not enough time to do that much :)

[FrogMan]

I like Le Mans a lot, even though I'm doing BADLY at it.

I have waaay too many games.

Once these are done I'm cutting it down to:

FOFC series
BTTC
Le Mans
and then some private competion such as prc.
and MAYBE a '07 F1
and then maybe a 86 F1
and for sure an '02 F1
and why not a V8 Supercars single team, that's a challenge
oh and also another BTCC production just to drive a Beemer in a race
...

Fixed that for you...

:D

[vex]

I think what I hate the most, is the series where there aren't ANY pitstops. Takes all strategy away and it all comes down to qualifying.

[Alan T]

I think what I hate the most, is the series where there aren't ANY pitstops. Takes all strategy away and it all comes down to qualifying.

Thats what bugs me about the A1GP

[FrogMan]

the V8 has some races like that, but it's also got some reverse grid starts and these can be craaaaazy. And let's not forget starts with total mayhem. Those are great...

Was talking about adding a Le Mans, well, it's done. I just took over a funky looking Audi LMP1 in a series with still 5 races to go. Just looked at the race strat screen a little and woah, this will need some getting used to. Quali is done and there's still 18 hours before race time, so I got some time...

FM

[Alan T]

Nice first race in the PRC Breedlove wins!

I was all over the place, I think my settings were a bit too agressive

[SirFozzie]

I've posted a race recap in the FOR dynasty thread.

[FrogMan]

for those who had not seen it, the world records page has been reinstated, at least in a basic stats keeping format...

FM

[FrogMan]

Not sure if that link has ever been posted here, but some very interesting stuff if you wanna get a sneak peek at future carsets, BATracer Workshops (http://www.phpbbserver.com/batracerworksho/index.php?mforum=batracerworksho).

The one they seem the closest to have finished is the FIAGT. They seemed to have something going toward a NASCAR carset at one point, but it looks to have cooled off...

FM

[Neon_Chaos]

Just got into this. Pretty neat.

What's the usual wait time for Public games?

And are there any FOFC Private games around? :) (other than the one that just started)

[MikeVic]

Whoo! My second public BTCC race, and I got 2nd in the Touring class. Race Brands Hatch GP Circuit Feature. :)

[MikeVic]

Dola,

I started 10th... and only had the 10th fastest lap. A lot of luck to get this finish. :)

[FrogMan]

cool! I'm in one BTCC public series, in production and doing pretty good. currently P2 in the series after winning 2 races already. :)

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, my only 2 wins in my career so far... :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

I have them. They are handy if you like the game enough to play it alot. Its not like it costs much money. It lets you play in more games at once (instead of just 1 public and 1 private at a time) which is nice. Has some other features, most of which isn't a big deal unless your teammate doesn't cooperate.
Being able to see your teammates' setup is a huge help, even when they are cooperating, as is not having to type up the current setup for posting to teamtalk.

The best tool it comes with is for wet -> dry weather conversion, but once again its nothing that you couldn't do the math for without it if you wanted.
Yup. And actually, the wet/dry tool is slightly more limited because you can only change wetness in increments of 2%, whereas you could go with any percentage you wanted with a spreadsheet calc.

One other thing I use is, at the start of each series I save a copy of my setup with all 50s for the settings. I find it easier to change from that to the engineer's advice than to start from my setting for the previous race.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Also, if anyone wants to hop into the ongoing FOFC Champcar private game, I think Dutch (for one) has disappeared. I believe it would take up a midseason slot. The gameid is 15590 and if I remember right, the password was Vroom.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Double dola, I've hopped into a midseason V8 ride where I'm sitting in 30th, and my driver characteristic is control freak (OK, but not great, especially in a one-characteristic series). Gonna be a challenge to see whether I can pick it up into, say, the mid-teens by season's end.

[kingfc22]

Also, if anyone wants to hop into the ongoing FOFC Champcar private game, I think Dutch (for one) has disappeared. I believe it would take up a midseason slot. The gameid is 15590 and if I remember right, the password was Vroom.

I'm in.

[MikeVic]

So is the Engineer's Advice just a rough guide? He'll say something like "medium," and the ending setting ends up being like an 80.

[Mr. Wednesday]

The Engineer's advice tells you what the range of the average setting value is (for ones with front and rear) or the specific setting value is (for singular stuff).

Other than brake bias, low is 0 to 33, medium is 33 to 67, high is 67 to 100. Rarely, you'll get an average one or two points beyond that range. You can take advantage of this to cut down on the possible values for a front/rear setting when you already know the rear/front setting, e.g. if you have front wings at 34 with engineer's advice of "medium", then you know that rear wings won't be lower than 32. (If you've got, say, 0 to 38 range, then you don't even bother testing at 30, you maybe test next at 34 or 36.)

For brake bias, safe is 0 to ~45 (typically 40 or lower), medium is 40 to 60, and loose is ~55 to 100.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, there may be more slots open in the Champcar game. kingfc bounced Jesse Leimkuehler (one of the single-car teams, good luck with that...).

[FrogMan]

if you go to "join midseason game" and enter our game number, it will tell you if there are any drives available. Jesse was the only one available when I checked after you posted the number.

open midseason slots in private games need to be advertised, they don'T show up in the regular "join midseason game" page. Because of that, anybody who would want to join our game should simply enter the game number in the midseason page and see if any drives are available and join at will...

FM

[SnDvls]

Has anyone seen Dutch in a while? He's on my team, but hasn't been around in a while.

I'd hate to sack him, but we could really use a 3rd driver.

[Mr. Wednesday]

See, now I was figuring that Dutch had been gone long enough that he would be eligible for midseason replacement.

Maybe we should try messaging him in-game.

Edit: I sent him an in-game PM. If there's no response tomorrow, I'll initiate a sacking.

[Emiliano]

Tasman Motorsport rules.

:D

[FrogMan]

Tasman Motorsport rules.

:D

man, that race was awesome! To give everyone some insight, it's in a V8 Supercars series in which Emiliano and I are teammates. It's the second race of the season, the second of the twin races at Adelaide. Starting order for that second race is the finishing order of the first race so Emiliano started 6th and I started 11th.

As I said, that race was awesome! We were so much faster than the other cars, it was scary. I ended up running up the pack all the way to 1st while Emiliano stayed close and despite a driver error that pushed him back from 6th to 16th in the first lap, he finished right behind me, giving Tasman Motorsports the 1-2!!! :)

FM

[kingfc22]

Tasman Motorsport rules.

:D

Indeed. Mr. W and I are also on a Tasman Motorsport team. He had a poor start to the season, but now we are rocking!

[Mr. Wednesday]

You're rocking, I'm kinda muddling along. :p

[vex]

Umm, Voo, did you sleep in and miss the qualifying or what?

[MikeVic]

Oh geez... so I'm 3rd in the series after the two races (with one me being 2nd place), and I had a decent warmup/qualifying, so I'm expecting big things this race.

Here's the start:
There is a collision as Posavec attempts to pass Peter Farish for P7! Posavec is out of the race! Peter Farish is out of the race!

Farish won the first two races..... his comment:
Peter Farish: "for christs sake"


What a game. haha.

[DanGarion]

Hey Leafs, why is your teammate trying to sack you in the 2006 F1 series?

[FrogMan]

Hey Leafs, why is your teammate trying to sack you in the 2006 F1 series?

who is Leafs?

FM

[SirFozzie]

Probably my partner

[DanGarion]

Probably my partner

Yes I meant you. Not leafs :) Sorry it was an early morning mistake.

[Mr. Wednesday]

So I signed up for one of the academy races as an "instructor", and landed on the same team with another instructor. Oops. :)

(Yeah, we can still do instruction in driver chat, but I think it'd work better if we were to mentor a teammate.)

[Lonnie]

Got my first win in a BTCC sprint. My third race in the series, after finishing 13th and 9th the previous two outings. Guess I'll have to donate soon....

[FrogMan]

Here's a neat little I came accross the other day, it's called the BATracer race exporter. Basically what it does is allow you to save one of your race for reference, or simply future replay.

For example, here's that V8 win I was talking about earlier:
http://frogbatracer.googlepages.com/tasmanwin.htm

The race exporter is simply a website in which you copy/paste the source of your race page and it will spit out a page of code which you can then simply copy/paste in notepad and save with the htm extention, veyr easy to use.

you can find it at this link:
http://www.playstation-racing.co.uk/batracer/export/

FM

[FrogMan]

Also, if anyone wants to hop into the ongoing FOFC Champcar private game, I think Dutch (for one) has disappeared. I believe it would take up a midseason slot. The gameid is 15590 and if I remember right, the password was Vroom.

Dutch's seat is indeed now showing as an available drive if anybody wants to step in to help Mr W and SnDvls.

As Mr W said, series number is 15590, password is Vroom.

FM

[SnDvls]

Dutch's seat is indeed now showing as an available drive if anybody wants to step in to help Mr W and SnDvls.

As Mr W said, series number is 15590, password is Vroom.

FM

and we have a race shortly too

[kingfc22]

GameID: 16060

One of my teammates hasn't been around for a couple days so if you are looking to join a midseason game his spot might be available soon.

This is a Champcar series.

[Lonnie]

Dutch's seat is indeed now showing as an available drive if anybody wants to step in to help Mr W and SnDvls.

As Mr W said, series number is 15590, password is Vroom.

FM

I took that spot.

[Lonnie]

A1GP Private game with a lot of spots open.

16387
pw: vroom

[FrogMan]

if anybody wanna come and help me, SirFozzie has had to put himself on holiday and is out of my Super Aguri team. The game is a public one, but you can enter this number, 15832, in the midseason game page. Driver to replace is David Yellope.

It's not an easy task, but we did challenge the big teams early on, when both of us were doing setups. Now by myself, it was a bit tougher, but still is fun...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, as it's a public game, there's no password...

FM

[DanGarion]

So is Batracer starting to die down? I made a clan for FOFC. If you go under WR, and do a Clan Search for FOFC you'll find it.

[FrogMan]

Dan, I think you need to send us some invite if you want us to join the clan. And yes, it seems to have died down quite a bit. Last I checked, 5 seats were available in the FOFC ChampCar series, although this might also be because of Summer vacations...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

I'm just waiting for the new FOFC series to start. Still active in my current series.

[DanGarion]

Dan, I think you need to send us some invite if you want us to join the clan. And yes, it seems to have died down quite a bit. Last I checked, 5 seats were available in the FOFC ChampCar series, although this might also be because of Summer vacations...

FM
Yeah I wasn't sure if people could request to join or if it was invite only.

[kingfc22]

Was just about to ask if anybody made a clan? And of course we did. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wow, does the new WR system like me better than the old one! I went from somewhere in the low 400's to the top 50. :eek:

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, it may help that not a single one of my series titles comes from cherry-picking, although only one of them (V8s) is from the post-midseason-replacement era.

[FrogMan]

I'm just waiting for the new FOFC series to start. Still active in my current series.

you can join us midseason, the gameid is 15590 and the password is Vroom. You simply have to click on a player to replace among the available drives...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

I would if my slots were not full.

[TonyR]

I'm in the FOFC Indy Car series.
I have 3 private league, 1 public, and 2 mid season slots left open if anyone needs a teammate.

[Brillig]

Is it just me or is the BATracer site horribly slow now?

[FrogMan]

Is it just me or is the BATracer site horribly slow now?


it was very, very slow mayb 20 minutes ago, have nto tried it since...

FM

[FrogMan]

it seems much better now though...

FM

[Scoobz0202]

I have noticed that it has been really slow lately.

[FrogMan]

that clan thing has made the spammers come out of the woods, look at this gem:
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=ta>From: <TD id=tb>Ben Allen (http://batracer.com/-us?DIK) <TR><TD id=ta>Subject: <TD id=tb>hey <TR><TD id=ta>Posted: <TD id=tb>21:46 Yesterday <TR><TD id=mm bgColor=#eeeedd colSpan=2>
hey ur in this game im in, u look pretty good, take a look at are clan and see if you want to join http://batracer.com/-i?57 cheers ben
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


HEY U BIG HONKING IDIOT, I DON'T SPEAK LIKE THAT!!! AND IT'S OUR, NOT ARE!!!

:D

FM

PS: I gotta say that I'm kicking all sorts of ass in that game, a midseason replacement F1 2007 with BMW Sauber in which I came only a couple races into the season, with the guy in 1st place and I'm still in first. The last race we did, I started 19th and won it. :)

[FrogMan]

dola, and my world ranking is dropping every time I check it. I was 629th at one point, 744th an hour later and I now sit in 929th place...

FM

[DanGarion]

We are number 21 out of 28 clans! Hehh.

[Mr. Wednesday]

dola, and my world ranking is dropping every time I check it. I was 629th at one point, 744th an hour later and I now sit in 929th place...
Yeah, unfortunately, as they keep computing world rankings, they keep finding guys better than me. :mad:

Out of the top 100 last I checked.

[FrogMan]

I was down to 1452nd last I checked, heh...

FM

[Mr. Wednesday]

I think the big thing that will push you up in the rankings is winning a public championship.

I still have a couple of issues with the rankings. First is the question of whether they adequately address cherry-picking, second is that I doubt they divide between pre- and post-mid-season-replacement eras. It was a lot different racing when you'd have half (or more) of the field abandoned by the midway point in a season.

[Brillig]

I was down to 1452nd last I checked, heh...

FM

I have no idea how I rate ahead of you, I still don't know what I'm doing. :D

[SnDvls]

is another FOFC league going to start up soon with only one race left in the current one?

[FrogMan]

is another FOFC league going to start up soon with only one race left in the current one?

no clue, but we've lost many players in this one. As I posted in the series chat, only 18 of 24 drivers ran practice laps prior to the qualifying for Laguna Seca and four drives are available when you check the join midseason game page with our series number...

FM

[SnDvls]

no clue, but we've lost many players in this one. As I posted in the series chat, only 18 of 24 drivers ran practice laps prior to the qualifying for Laguna Seca and four drives are available when you check the join midseason game page with our series number...

FM

maybe we need to start with a smaller starting field if that is possible.

[FrogMan]

I have no idea how I rate ahead of you, I still don't know what I'm doing. :D


what's your name in the game?

FM

[FrogMan]

maybe we need to start with a smaller starting field if that is possible.

it's always possible, every series have their limitations as to what minimum of drivers you need to have before you say go. Thing is, we always try to get as many people from here as possible, leading to people signing up and then disappearing...

FM

[FrogMan]

just realized that in all series together, I have now started over 150 races. Good thing I'm off work for summer vacations and am running 12 series at once. :)

8 of those starts resulted in wins :)

FM

[Neon_Chaos]

Do we have a FOFC clan in batracer? :)

[FrogMan]

Do we have a FOFC clan in batracer? :)

yes, yes we do, simply search for FOFC in the clan search page and send a PM to Daniel Schoonover (DanGarion here) so he can send you and invite into it...

FM

[kingfc22]

So do we have a new game starting?

[Neon_Chaos]

I have one private game slot open, just say so if we've got a FOFC series going on. :)

[FrogMan]

To the guys who signed up for the Pacific Racing Challenge Season 5, I'm disappointed in you. I vouched for you, talked all kinds of good about you so you would have an all FOFC team of three and now two of you have disappeared, leaving Travis (sorry, can't seem to make the connection with an FOFC name here) alone and fumbling to find replacements. That's not very good. I know shit can happen in real life, but least you could have done would have been to let your teammate know so he could go and try to find replacements before he's lost a couple races of time... That sucks for him, and for our name...

FM

[MrBug708]

Every time I sign up for an FOFC league my teammates bail on and I've lost most of my interest in this game. It had such good promise too

[FrogMan]

well, I play many other series and it's not only with FOFCers that you can have fun. Yeah, some are frustrating, but some are tons of fun...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, one good challenge I'm in is one of the V8 single team. Yeah, I don't expect to win many, if any at all, but every little success means a great deal to me. That and there are three races out of 4 days and you keep on working on the setup over the three day events... Currently in 13th place out of 31, the highest of the three single team drivers...

FM

[Mr. Wednesday]

Travis (sorry, can't seem to make the connection with an FOFC name here)
SnDvls, I assume.

[kingfc22]

To the guys who signed up for the Pacific Racing Challenge Season 5, I'm disappointed in you. I vouched for you, talked all kinds of good about you so you would have an all FOFC team of three and now two of you have disappeared, leaving Travis (sorry, can't seem to make the connection with an FOFC name here) alone and fumbling to find replacements. That's not very good. I know shit can happen in real life, but least you could have done would have been to let your teammate know so he could go and try to find replacements before he's lost a couple races of time... That sucks for him, and for our name...

FM

Do you have the ID so I can try to replace a driver?

[Emiliano]

just realized that in all series together, I have now started over 150 races. Good thing I'm off work for summer vacations and am running 12 series at once. :)

8 of those starts resulted in wins :)

FM

:eek:

Frog=BatRacer wizard. :D

Oh and BTW, go Tasman!

[Emiliano]

Guys, to clarify this once for all: is the super-official FOFC IndyCar league the ID#15590??? Because I always get a "game full" message. Are there some spots available or not? I'd love to join.

[FrogMan]

Guys, to clarify this once for all: is the super-official FOFC IndyCar league the ID#15590??? Because I always get a "game full" message. Are there some spots available or not? I'd love to join.


yeah, it was. The series is over, is why you get a "no drives available" message. :)

FM

[FrogMan]

Do you have the ID so I can try to replace a driver?


One was replaced and apparently the other came back to life, it's all full for now. The guy who got to the Front Office Racing, Mark Thomas, is a really nice guy. He's my teammate in my BTCC production series and has helped understand many things, as well as help me be in 2nd place, within reaching distance of the Championship so far...

FM

[Emiliano]

yeah, it was. The series is over, is why you get a "no drives available" message. :)

FM

Good. Well, what we're waiting for, let's start a new one now!

What series do you guys prefer?

[Voo]

Umm, Voo, did you sleep in and miss the qualifying or what?

Yeah. For one of the races I didn't want to waste the soft tires, so instead of just switching to normal for one run I chose to do just the second run. So on the next race it was just one run and I didn't think to look at it and click the make this run button. Hence the non attempt to qualify.

[Emiliano]

Brand new public A1GP series created, game #16670, plenty of nations still available. I finally joined as Italy.

[FrogMan]

The A1GP has grown old quick for me. Not too sure why. There are short races in both the BTCC and V8 series, yet I like these two much more. Even a V8 as a single driver team is more fun to me.

Speaking of series and all, would people be in for a fourth FOFC series or should we wait that the summer vacation period dies down? I was thinking maybe a BTCC single class (either touring OR production) that would allow up to 16 drivers in (or maybe more, would need to be tested). Would make for good competition, especially in the production series where most of the cars are similar with only some tiny differences between them...

Just thought I'd see how people feel about it...

FM

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'll be up for whatever private game we should come up with next.

[MrIllini]

I've started a new F1 2007 private game

league: 16719
pass: hornsmaniac

I'm going to try something different and make a smaller league...so once the top 6 or 7 teams fill up I'm going to close it down and start the league. FYI.

[MrIllini]

um, to be more clear

PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP FOR TORO ROSSO, SPYKER, RED BULL

[Brillig]

The A1GP has grown old quick for me. Not too sure why. There are short races in both the BTCC and V8 series, yet I like these two much more. Even a V8 as a single driver team is more fun to me.

Speaking of series and all, would people be in for a fourth FOFC series or should we wait that the summer vacation period dies down? I was thinking maybe a BTCC single class (either touring OR production) that would allow up to 16 drivers in (or maybe more, would need to be tested). Would make for good competition, especially in the production series where most of the cars are similar with only some tiny differences between them...

Just thought I'd see how people feel about it...

FM

My personal problem with A1GP is that it's just too random. Without the ability to select Thinker or Charisma, all it takes is one bad roll in practice, and you've basically screwed the next three days.

[Emiliano]

I've started a new F1 2007 private game

league: 16719
pass: hornsmaniac

I'm going to try something different and make a smaller league...so once the top 6 or 7 teams fill up I'm going to close it down and start the league. FYI.

Signed up!

[FrogMan]

My personal problem with A1GP is that it's just too random. Without the ability to select Thinker or Charisma, all it takes is one bad roll in practice, and you've basically screwed the next three days.

but still even with a V8, I have the feeling that much more interesting stuff can happen with the V8, even though I pretty much everyone of my three race event start for me with a couple strikes. The reverse grid events, the total mayhems and all, they make the V8's more fun than the A1GP, or at least that's my feeling...

FM

[Mr. Wednesday]

I can think of several factors favoring the V8s over A1:
* Point structure keeps fights for places interesting over the entire field, whereas in A1, 11th is no different from 25th. I'm happy with a top 10 finish in V8s, but I don't like being lower than 6th in A1. (The A1 setup favors more aggressive driver settings, but the V8 setup produces a more interesting race.)

* Reverse grid races make it somewhat easier to score a good finish after an unlucky first round (although if you retire you're starting from the back).

* Longer races lead to more room for action.

I'm not sure if there are more passes in V8s than A1 or no.

[Mr. Wednesday]

From the department of LOL, in one of the academy games, a racer won the championship by default. Every single other driver was a midseason replacement or an opt-out. :eek:

He took it home with a total of 2 pts in a Toyota.

[FrogMan]

I can think of several factors favoring the V8s over A1:
* Point structure keeps fights for places interesting over the entire field, whereas in A1, 11th is no different from 25th. I'm happy with a top 10 finish in V8s, but I don't like being lower than 6th in A1. (The A1 setup favors more aggressive driver settings, but the V8 setup produces a more interesting race.)

* Reverse grid races make it somewhat easier to score a good finish after an unlucky first round (although if you retire you're starting from the back).

* Longer races lead to more room for action.

I'm not sure if there are more passes in V8s than A1 or no.

all very valid points and one more regarding the point structure is the penalty with not finishing a race. I'm sometimes very, very happy to limp to a 24th place out of 31, maybe even as I drop from say 10th place with 6 laps to go, because I know I will still get points. I that case, I still have an interest for the last 6 laps. That certainly wouldn't be the same in A1GP.

FM

[Brillig]

I can think of several factors favoring the V8s over A1:
* Point structure keeps fights for places interesting over the entire field, whereas in A1, 11th is no different from 25th. I'm happy with a top 10 finish in V8s, but I don't like being lower than 6th in A1. (The A1 setup favors more aggressive driver settings, but the V8 setup produces a more interesting race.)

* Reverse grid races make it somewhat easier to score a good finish after an unlucky first round (although if you retire you're starting from the back).

* Longer races lead to more room for action.

I'm not sure if there are more passes in V8s than A1 or no.

A cursory examination suggests that there's no more passing in V8 than A1. I agree with everything else though.

[Lathum]

are there any versions that don't give an advantage to having teammates?

[FrogMan]

are there any versions that don't give an advantage to having teammates?

Well, there are no teams in the A1GP, but as we just said, it can be a bit frustrating.

FM

[MrIllini]

F1 league is almost ready to go...if we can 1 more Renault driver and a couple to fill the Toyota team, I'll start it up

thanks guys