Harry Potter Book 7 Predictions Thread (Will Probably contain spoilers after 7/20)

[albionmoonlight]

~1 week to go.

I think that:
Harry will get together with Ginny, and Ginny will die.
Neville will die in a heroic manner.
Hagrid will die.
Harry, Ron, and Hermione will all live.
Ron and Hermione will get together.
Fred and George's joke shop will make the Weasley family millionaires.
Snape and Draco will side against the Death Eaters.
Voldemort and the Death Eaters will be defeated.
Harry will end up as the Defense Against the Dark Arts Professor at Hogwarts.

[Logan]

I'll predict that this thread contains spoilers before 7/20.

[flere-imsaho]

I predict: The last Harry Potter book will be published before the last Song of Ice & Fire book. ;)

[spleen1015]

Harry will end up as the Defense Against the Dark Arts Professor at Hogwarts.

This kind of fits. Since Voldemort cursed the job, it is only fitting that Harry takes over once he defeats Voldemort.

[Buccaneer]

I was going to ask someone to start a Book 7 thread. For the past 5-6 days, I have been in HP Overdrive. I have thus far re-read books 1-4 and watched movies 1-3. I'll be watching movie 4 tonight. After I read book 5, then I'll go see the movie, then book 6 by Saturday.

What I am paying attention to in each of the books are the clues that would add up to a conclusion. After reading GoF yesterday, I am convinced that Snape is on the good side since that came directly from Voldemort's mouth when meeting the Death Eaters. (one ran away - Karkarof; one on Hogwarts betrayed him - Snape, one at Hogwarts remained loyal - Crouch Jr.).

I'm also paying attention to what we will know as the horacruxes but haven't got much on that yet.

As far as my predictions: the three will live; three others will die (too many to choose from); Neville go down as one of the most famous, whether he lives or dies; Snape will help Harry defeat Voldemort; but I don't have a prediction as to what Harry will end up doing afterwards, he could be in St. Mungro for a long time.

[KWhit]

I was going to ask someone to start a Book 7 thread. For the past 5-6 days, I have been in HP Overdrive. I have thus far re-read books 1-4 and watched movies 1-3. I'll be watching movie 4 tonight. After I read book 5, then I'll go see the movie, then book 6 by Saturday.

What I am paying attention to in each of the books are the clues that would add up to a conclusion. After reading GoF yesterday, I am convinced that Snape is on the good side since that came directly from Voldemort's mouth when meeting the Death Eaters. (one ran away - Karkarof; one on Hogwarts betrayed him - Snape, one at Hogwarts remained loyal - Crouch Jr.).

I'm also paying attention to what we will know as the horacruxes but haven't got much on that yet.

As far as my predictions: the three will live; three others will die (too many to choose from); Neville go down as one of the most famous, whether he lives or dies; Snape will help Harry defeat Voldemort; but I don't have a prediction as to what Harry will end up doing afterwards, he could be in St. Mungro for a long time.

I'm rereading them as well. I'm desparately trying to finish up by release day, because it's going to be impossible to avoid spoilers by idiots trying to be funny.

I also think Snape is good based on the same Voldemort quote you mention.

Nothing too earth-shattering, but here are my other predictions:
I think all 3 main characters live.
I think Ginny dies.
Neville heroically saves HP and gang (he lives and is celebrated as a hero).
The last horcrux is Harry's scar.
Harry's final battle with Voldemort somehow ends up taking place at Hogwarts. It is a huge battle, with students and teachers fighting Death Eaters, but of course, Harry must face Voldemort alone.
Some prominent teachers die - Hagrid, McGonagall, Snape.

[Rizon]

I don't think any marketable characters will die. I am totally serious when I think a TV show is in the works (although not starring any of the movies actors).

[rkmsuf]

Hermione dies.

[spleen1015]

There will be some big name deaths. Rowling has pretty much said so.

[Logan]

I'm helping out my sister and brother-in-law by babysitting my niece Saturday night. She's not even 2, so that means I'll get there when she's sleeping, so I'm going to try and bang out the whole thing then so I don't have to worry about hearing anything that I wouldn't want to.

I haven't had time to re-read the last two books (or see the latest movie). Is there a site that gives a lot of details about plot points so I could remember some of the more minor things?

[oliegirl]

I think Harry will defeat Voldemort, and become the new Headmaster of Hogwarts, I think McGonagall will die which will leave no "main" character to take over...Harry taking over will signal a new era in the wizarding world. Snape will take over in Defense Against the Dark Arts position, which we all know he has always coveted. Hermione and Ron end up together, Harry and Ginny end up together, though I'm not as convinced about that one.

I think Neville will die, as well as McGonagall...those are the 2 main characters who she kills off. I'm not sure about the Kreacher thing, how he ties in and becomes so important, but I can't wait to find out! :)

[ISiddiqui]

There will be some big name deaths. Rowling has pretty much said so.

And has stated that they were difficult to write. One of the chapters she wrote had her bawling... so I'm thinking it's a pretty big name going down.

[spleen1015]

And has stated that they were difficult to write. One of the chapters she wrote had her bawling... so I'm thinking it's a pretty big name going down.

Yeah and I think this one is Hagrid.

[Crapshoot]

Yeah, I'm with Spleen. I think Hagrid, Snape, and either Nevillle or Luna will go at the very least. I have no doubts whatsoever on Snape in particular - he can't live - as of the end, he has served his purpose (and "redeemed" himself since there's no doubt in my mind that he is on the good side).

My thought is that the big 3 will survive- but a Weasley family member (maybe Mr. Weasley, more likely Mrs. Weasley) will go.

[Qwikshot]

I don't read these books, but I'm going to throw something out there...

Rowling doesn't want the series to continue...for that to be the case, there has to be an extreme ending, one that may keep things open (if she gets the creative juices flowing again), but unlike the Sopranos finale, there are no real questions, it's a final ending.

I think for one of two things to happen...

You kill off Harry Potter - brutal and final. I've watched the movies and such and Harry seems your hero character. I don't think this would be the case, it's too extreme. But it solves Rowlings problem of offshoots, or ghost writers. Potter is iconic, this is her ultimate method of controlling the character's legacy.

However, I thought of another scenario...

Harry loses his magical abilities. Now think about this, Harry succeeds in killed Voldemort, but somehow he uses up his magical abilities, gets cursed, or a myriad of different things...and he's back in the real world as a real boy, no magic, all gone. To me, this too preserves Potter's legacy without offing him, but allows for a nicer ending. I think this would be more audacious too (and a much more difficult work to write).

Still it's a tantalizing thought. I only think this because if Harry is the chosen one, that chosen ones always have to "sacrifice". What is worse for a wizard to give up, life or magic?

Anyway, my two cents, probably way off tangent.

[Barkeep49]

I don't see how the series ends with out at least one of the big three dying. I see it being Hermoine and Ginny, though I think Hagrid's a good one and could see him biting it.

And Snape is good.

[KWhit]

I don't see how the series ends with out at least one of the big three dying.

I disagree. I don't think one of them dies. If one does bite it though, it will be Ron.

[Crapshoot]

I have to admit, that in terms of sympathy, I feel for Ron more than anyone - he's my "favorite" character (in terms of rooting interest).

Any one else have any thoughts on Arthur and/or Molly Weasley? It seems clear to me that given the trend (a Weasely is in trouble, Harry comes to save the day) that for once, it will break - and I expect Molly (the only one who has avoided trouble so far) to be the one to go (or Percy, as the wildcard).

[Barkeep49]

I disagree. I don't think one of them dies. If one does bite it though, it will be Ron.
In each book there has been a progressive increase in the amount of care the reader feels for a character who bites the dust. You go from Cedric, who I didn't care much about until I saw him in the movie, to Sirius, who was clearly a good guy, to Dumbledoor. This combined with her statement that she cried at one point says to me it's one of the big three. I go with Hermoine as she's said that Hermoine is like her and since sacrifice is a big theme of the books I think this will be her symbolic sacrifice to stop evil. But with Rowling upping the ante each book I just don't see how, even with multiple characters dying, you reach the same emotional level without one of the big three perishing.

[oliegirl]

I think if Mr. or Mrs. Weasley die, it would be incredibly emotional - almost like Harry losing another mother/father. Not only would he feel the pain of his loss, but the pain of the Weasley children - especially Ron and Ginny.

I think at the end of the day, Rowling wrote these as children's books/young adult's books, and because of that - I'll be surprised if one of the main 3 die. The ending should still be good triumphing over evil and some sort of a Happy Ever After...not sure you could really have the Happy Ever After without Harry, Ron and Hermione all surviving.

[ISiddiqui]

I'm not sure that with the last couple books if they've gone from young adult to just plain adult. So I can easily see one of the main 3 die.

[Barkeep49]

I'm not sure that with the last couple books if they've gone from young adult to just plain adult.

To me they started as tween books and have progressed to young adult books. What makes you think of them as adult only books as opposed to books adults can enjoy?

[Buccaneer]

Since I don't follow any of the HP websites, I found this wiki summary to be very helpful and intriguing. Your thoughts? Answers? Guesses?


Unresolved plot elements from previous books


Harry will return to the home of his Muggle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggle) relatives, the Dursleys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dursley_family) (whose cooperation has been requested by Albus Dumbledore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albus_Dumbledore)), during the school holiday. The magical protection Dumbledore arranged, which requires Harry to have a home with them, is set to expire on his upcoming birthday, when he comes of age.<SUP>HBP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince) Ch.4</SUP>
Harry plans to visit the remains of his parents' home in Godric's Hollow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godric%27s_Hollow). Ron Weasley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Weasley) and Hermione Granger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermione_Granger) plan on accompanying him on this trip.<SUP>HBP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince) Ch.30</SUP>
Bill Weasley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Weasley) and Fleur Delacour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur_Delacour) plan on getting married in August. Several of the main characters have been invited.<SUP>HBP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince) Ch.30</SUP>
Bill Weasley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Weasley) has been bitten by a werewolf (Fenrir Greyback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir_Greyback)); however, Fenrir was not fully transformed (he was not bitten on the day of a full moon), and we have yet to see the full effect of the bite. So far it has been said that Bill has merely developed a taste for steak cooked very rare.
It is unclear what will happen to Hogwarts after the attack on the school at the end of Half-Blood Prince, but Harry has said he will leave school to continue his battle against Voldemort. If the school reopens, replacements will be required for Severus Snape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severus_Snape) (Defence Against the Dark Arts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_subjects#Defence_Against_the_Dark_Arts) instructor and head of Slytherin house) and possibly Minerva McGonagall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_McGonagall) (Transfiguration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_subjects#Transfiguration) instructor, head of Gryffindor house and deputy Headmistress) in the event that she becomes Headmistress.<SUP>HBP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince) Ch.29</SUP> <SUP>HBP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince) Ch.30</SUP>
Wormtail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pettigrew) owes Harry a life debt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_debt) that has not yet been repaid.
Harry must destroy all of Voldemort's remaining Horcruxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horcrux) before Voldemort can be defeated. Dumbledore believed there were a total of six, and that two so far have been destroyed (the Gaunt ring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_Gaunt) and Riddle's diary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle%27s_diary)).
There is no explanation at the end of Half-Blood Prince as to the true identity of the mysterious "R.A.B. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.A.B.)", who claimed to have stolen one of Voldemort's Horcruxes, a locket, with the intent to destroy it, while replacing it with a fake locket, later recovered by Harry and Dumbledore.<SUP>HBP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince) Ch.28</SUP> Rowling said Regulus Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulus_Black) was "a fine guess" for R.A.B.'s identity in an interview.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-20>[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-20)</SUP>
The true loyalty and motivations of Severus Snape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severus_Snape) have been unclear throughout the series. At different points in the series, Snape's actions have either conflicted with his stated intentions or with his previous actions. Because of the contradictions in his behavior, Snape remains a potential wild card. This is in contrast to the other main characters who have very clearly chosen allegiances.
It has not been explained why, when Dumbledore heard that Voldemort had used Harry's blood to resurrect himself, Harry sees a "gleam of triumph" in Dumbledore's eyes. <SUP>GF Ch.36</SUP> Rowling has said that this is still "enormously significant".<SUP class=reference id=_ref-21>[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-21)</SUP>
It is still unclear if Sirius Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Black), Harry's Godfather, is indeed dead or just trapped behind the arch. (He was not hit with the "Killing Curse" as shown in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix)
No one was credited with performing the magic involved with the spectacular flaming raising of the white marble tomb of Dumbledore. Whether or not this is significant taken along with Scrimgeour's hasty assertion a few plot moments later that "He's gone... not even Dumbledore can return from the—" creates a slight opening to hopeful speculation. However, J.K. Rowling has repeatedly quashed theories that state Dumbledore is alive.


Hints from Rowling


Rowling drafted the last chapter of the book several years ago to give herself an ending to work towards. The chapter contains details of what happens to the surviving characters:<TABLE class=cquote style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; POSITION: relative; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 35px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; COLOR: #b2b7f2; PADDING-TOP: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; TEXT-ALIGN: left" vAlign=top width=20>“</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" vAlign=top>This is the thing that I was very dubious about showing you... this is the final chapter of book seven. This is really where I wrap everything up, it's the epilogue. And I basically say what happens to everyone after they leave school - those who survive - because there are deaths - more deaths coming. It was a way of saying to myself, 'Well, you will get it, you will get to book seven one day. And then you'll need this!' So I'd just like to remind all the children I know who come around my house and start sneaking into cupboards that it's not there anymore - I don't keep it at home anymore for very, very, very obvious reasons. So there it is.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-BBC_fry_0>[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-BBC_fry)</SUP></TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 36px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; COLOR: #b2b7f2; PADDING-TOP: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; TEXT-ALIGN: right" vAlign=bottom width=20>”</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Rowling has stated that there will be no Quidditch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quidditch) matches in Deathly Hallows.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_2_0>[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter_2)</SUP>
J. K. Rowling said in 2001 that Harry might get another pet at some point.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-22>[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-22)</SUP> Although Buckbeak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckbeak) may have filled this role (Harry obtained possession of the Hippogriff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippogriff) after the death of Sirius Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Black), albeit under Hagrid's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubeus_Hagrid) care), she also hinted that Fawkes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawkes), Dumbledore's phoenix, might have another role.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-23>[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-23)</SUP>
We will learn something very important about Lily (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_and_Lily_Potter):<DL><DD><DL><DD>Now, the important thing about Harry's mother - the really, really significant thing - you're going to find out in two parts. You'll find out a lot more about her in book five, or you'll find out something very significant about her in book five, and you'll find out something incredibly important about her in book seven." – J. K. Rowling<SUP class=reference id=_ref-connect_0>[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-connect)</SUP> </DD></DL></DD></DL>
Rowling has long said that the fact that Harry has "his mother's eyes" is "very important."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-24>[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-24)</SUP>
Severus Snape has been an important and enigmatic character throughout the books, as his true loyalty has always remained unclear. It is to be anticipated that as a surviving major character, his loyalty will be settled in the final confrontation of the book.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_0>[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter)</SUP><SUP class=reference id=_ref-itrustsnape_0>[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-itrustsnape)</SUP><DL><DD><DL><DD>Questioner: There’s an important kind of redemptive pattern to Snape. <DD>Rowling: He, um, there’s so much I wish I could say to you, and I can't because it would ruin. I promise you, whoever asked that question, can I just say to you that I'm slightly stunned that you've said that and you'll find out why I'm so stunned if you read Book Seven. That's all I’m going to say.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-connect_1>[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-connect)</SUP> </DD></DL></DD></DL>
She has stated we will learn more about Peter Pettigrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pettigrew) and Dumbledore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albus_Dumbledore) and their respective families.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_2_1>[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter_2)</SUP>
At the Edinburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh) book festival, Rowling mentioned that something more would be revealed about Petunia Dursley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dursley_family#Petunia_Dursley). Nothing of note occurred in book 6, so this remains to be discovered.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-edinburg_book_0>[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-edinburg_book)</SUP><DL><DD><DL><DD>"..there is a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye...She is not a squib (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_purity_%28Harry_Potter%29#Squibs), although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet." </DD></DL><DD>Rowling repeated this comment at the Radio City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_City_Music_Hall) charity reading in August 2006.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Radio_city_0>[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-Radio_city)</SUP> She clarified by stating that Aunt Petunia will not perform magic.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-25>[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-25)</SUP> </DD></DL>
Rowling has said that some non-magical character will perform magic late in life under desperate circumstances.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-26>[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-26)</SUP> However, Petunia will not be the one to perform magic (see above).
Also at Edinburgh, Rita Skeeter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Skeeter) was mentioned: "She is loathsome . . . but I can't help admiring her toughness. . . . There is more to come on Rita."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-edinburg_book_1>[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-edinburg_book)</SUP>
On Dolores Umbridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolores_Umbridge), "It's too much fun to torture her not to have another little bit more before I finish."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_2_2>[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter_2)</SUP>
Rowling has said that Ginny Weasley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginny_Weasley) is quite powerful, that we have seen a taste of that in the past, and we will see it again.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_2_3>[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter_2)</SUP>
Viktor Krum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Krum) is set for a reappearance.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-wbd2004_0>[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-wbd2004)</SUP>
Kreacher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreacher), the former Black Family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Family) house elf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_elf) which passed to Harry's ownership with the death of Sirius Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Black), may make an appearance. Rowling told the filmmakers of Order of the Phoenix to include the character in the movie, because he is "very important", after they had omitted him in a draft of the script.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-27>[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-27)</SUP><SUP class=reference id=_ref-28>[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-28)</SUP>
Sirius Black's flying motorbike and the two-way mirror he gave Harry will return.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-wbd2004_1>[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-wbd2004)</SUP> In fact, Rowling has mentioned in one of her FAQs that the two way mirror "will help more than you think." Rowling refused to comment whether Sirius himself might in some way reappear, but she has also said that there was a reason why he had to die.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-29>[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-29)</SUP>
Arthur Weasley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Weasley)'s flying car, which was last seen in the Hogwarts forest,<SUP>[HP2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Chamber_of_Secrets)</SUP> will reappear.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-BN_interview_0>[52] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-BN_interview)</SUP>
Rowling refused to comment when asked whether the locked door in the Department of Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Magic#Department_of_Mysteries) in the Ministry of Magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Magic) would feature in the final book.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_3_0>[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter_3)</SUP>
Dumbledore was said to have a "gleam of triumph" in his eyes when told that Voldemort had restored his body using Harry's blood, at the end of Goblet of Fire (Ch. 36). Rowling has confirmed that this is "still enormously significant".<SUP class=reference id=_ref-tlc_mug_inter_3_1>[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-tlc_mug_inter_3)</SUP>
Rowling revealed in a 1999 interview that one of Harry's classmates will become a Hogwarts teacher, though not Harry himself and 'not who you think'. When asked, Rowling also ruled out Ron. This implies that Hogwarts will re-open at some point.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-connect_2>[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-connect)</SUP>
In an interview after the completion of the Prisoner of Azkaban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Prisoner_of_Azkaban_%28film%29) film, she commented that director Alfonso Cuarón (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_Cuar%C3%B3n) had "put things in the film that, without knowing it, foreshadow things that are going to happen in the final two books. So I really got goosebumps when I saw a couple of those things, and I thought people are going to look back on the film and think those were put in deliberately as clues."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-poa-film-interview_0>[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-poa-film-interview)</SUP>
There are indications that at least two of the main characters will die. In a June 2006 interview about the previously-written ending, Rowling stated that:<DL><DD><DL><DD>"One character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that I didn't intend to die...A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil...They go for the main characters...well, I do".<SUP class=reference id=_ref-r_and_j_1>[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-r_and_j)</SUP> </DD></DL></DD></DL>
When further questioned in June 2006 about authors who kill off their main characters, Rowling said "I can completely understand, however, the mentality of an author who thinks, well, I'm going to kill them off because that means there can be no non-author-written sequels".<SUP class=reference id=_ref-r_and_j_2>[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-r_and_j)</SUP>
Rowling clarified that "Dumbledore is definitely dead", when asked by Sir Salman Rushdie and others at Radio City Music Hall in New York City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City). Rowling answered the same question three times, each time with increasing conviction.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-30>[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-30)</SUP> However, on the set of the Order of the Phoenix film, she remarked; "Dumbledore's giving me a lot of trouble". When asked "But isn't he dead?" by Daniel Radcliffe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Radcliffe), she explained; "Well, yeah, but it's more complex ...."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-31>[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-31)</SUP>
When asked what questions she should have been asked, she admitted that "the final book contains a couple of pieces of information that I don't think you could guess at", and declined to explain further.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Radio_city_1>[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-Radio_city)</SUP> On 13 September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_13), 2006 she updated her website saying that when she was asked that question, her mind went blank. Since she couldn't make amends, she created a NAQ section (http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/extrastuff_view.cfm?id=23) of her website, in tribute to the girl who asked the question. In her NAQ section, she states:<DL><DD><DL><DD>"Why did Dumbledore have James' invisibility cloak at the time of James' death, given that Dumbledore could make himself invisible without a cloak?" </DD></DL><DD>On 29 September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_29) 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), she revealed that Severus Snape was not under the cloak the night of the Potters' death in the Rumours Section (http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/rumours_view.cfm?id=46) of her website. </DD></DL>
Asked which five of her characters she would like to invite to dinner, she chose Harry, Hermione and Ron, but then hesitated before choosing her last characters, saying "See... I know who's actually dead," unsure whether she was permitted to invite those who are 'dead'.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Radio_city_2>[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-Radio_city)</SUP>
Responding to the news that Lord Voldemort was voted best villain at the Big Bad Read poll, Rowling commented:<DL><DD><DL><DD>"I hope those of you who voted for him in the big bad read enjoy reading about him in book seven, where he finally gets the leg room for which he has been aching all those years in exile."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Big_Bad_Read_0>[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-Big_Bad_Read)</SUP> </DD></DL></DD></DL>
During a July 2007 interview broadcast on the BBC One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_One)'s Friday Night with Jonathan Ross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_Night_with_Jonathan_Ross), Rowling announced that "scar" was no longer the last word in the book. Although long reported and confirmed by Rowling to be the final word of book 7, Rowling went on record as saying that "Scar is quite near the end, but it's not the last word." She refused to say what the last word was.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-32>[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathly_hallows#_note-32)</SUP>

[JeeberD]

To me they started as tween books and have progressed to young adult books. What makes you think of them as adult only books as opposed to books adults can enjoy?

Snogging? ;)

[Neon_Chaos]

- Snape is good. Will end up redeeming himself in Book 7 (perhaps even revealing that Dumbledore was begging Snape to kill him, and not the other way around. Which is what they were arguing about when Hagrid overheard them). I reread the first chapter of HBP, and Snape has NO IDEA what the Dark Lord's mission for Draco was... he was able to coax it out of Bellatrix and Narcissa by saying that he DID KNOW, just shutting up, and letting the two tell bits and pieces front of him out of panic and fear. That was something that I noticed. I feel that he made the Unbreakable Vow without knowing what Draco's actual mission was... and when he knew, revealed it to Dumbledore, who told him to do what he must... and kill him when time came.

[Neon_Chaos]

dola

Harry, Ron and Hermione enter a diner. They order Butter Beer and onion rings. Voldemort is sitting at the lunch counter, marking time. Outside, Ron’s sister, Ginny, is having a hell of a time parallel parking, even though she’s using her wand. And just then the door to the diner opens and Harry Potter looks up and—the last 11 pages of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” are freaking blank.

[Buccaneer]

When I was re-read GoF on Sunday, the one thing that popped out at me (and missed the first time) was the look of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. The stuff above confirmed it was important and from that, I would say that Voldemort certainly dies and Harry lives. Can someone remind me what the prophesy was?

I watched GoF last night on DVD, recalling how I didn't like it when I saw it in the theater. I know I complained about the lighting (which was better than I thought) and the pacing (I still think the director sucked big time), but I now know what bothered me most about the movie - Gambon's Dumbledore. He played it so wrong (compared to the book) that it was nearly unwatchable. The book reads him as deliberate and careful in his movements as well as quiet, thoughtful and old in his voice. Gambon played him just the opposite: rash, sprite and loud. He was ok in PoA and may work in OotP, but what he did in GoF was bad, imo.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I predict: The last Harry Potter book will be published before the last Song of Ice & Fire book. ;)

:mad:

[spleen1015]

When I was re-read GoF on Sunday, the one thing that popped out at me (and missed the first time) was the look of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. The stuff above confirmed it was important and from that, I would say that Voldemort certainly dies and Harry lives. Can someone remind me what the prophesy was?

I watched GoF last night on DVD, recalling how I didn't like it when I saw it in the theater. I know I complained about the lighting (which was better than I thought) and the pacing (I still think the director sucked big time), but I now know what bothered me most about the movie - Gambon's Dumbledore. He played it so wrong (compared to the book) that it was nearly unwatchable. The book reads him as deliberate and careful in his movements as well as quiet, thoughtful and old in his voice. Gambon played him just the opposite: rash, sprite and loud. He was ok in PoA and may work in OotP, but what he did in GoF was bad, imo.

Gambon is terrible as Dumbledore. Not only is he bad acting the part, he doesn't even look the part to me.

[KWhit]

Gambon is terrible as Dumbledore.

I agree. He was awful.

And I also hated the movie version of GoF.

[Lathum]

I'm not sure that with the last couple books if they've gone from young adult to just plain adult. So I can easily see one of the main 3 die.

she has had the last chapter written since before she wrote the books so unless she changes something the demographics shouldn't matter.

[Lathum]

Dola- I agree that Hagrid dies. With Dumbledore out of the picture he is the most central charecture outside the big 3.

I think Lupin is also a possibility

[oliegirl]

Gambon is terrible as Dumbledore. Not only is he bad acting the part, he doesn't even look the part to me.


I am glad I'm not the only one that hates Gambon as Dumbledore...the way he ties his beard just irritates me and he just doesn't even interact with the other characters the way Richard Harris did.

[Coffee Warlord]

I am glad I'm not the only one that hates Gambon as Dumbledore...the way he ties his beard just irritates me and he just doesn't even interact with the other characters the way Richard Harris did.

He did much better in the 5th movie, but he is indeed major reason I hated the 4th movie.

[flere-imsaho]

:mad:

Hey, I'm right there with you.

[ISiddiqui]

she has had the last chapter written since before she wrote the books so unless she changes something the demographics shouldn't matter.

But she has purposely written the books in a more and more mature fashion as every year has gone on. So the 1st book fells more like one from an 11 year old POV, the 2nd from a 12 year old POV, etc. I think she knew she was going to do this, so she could have written the last chapter with a 17 year old POV regardless.

[Lathum]

But she has purposely written the books in a more and more mature fashion as every year has gone on. So the 1st book fells more like one from an 11 year old POV, the 2nd from a 12 year old POV, etc. I think she knew she was going to do this, so she could have written the last chapter with a 17 year old POV regardless.

true but I doubt she could have predicted the success the books would have with adults.

[ntndeacon]

I think Several Weasleys will die...Molly and one of the Twins, Percy comes back to the family after Molly's death. Hermione dies. Neville becomes Herbology teacher. Harry comes back to Hogwats at somepoint and talks to Dumbledore's picture in the headmistress' office. Oh and of course Snape is good.

[Crapshoot]

Neville becomes Herbology teacher - I like that one, and it makes sense. Good call, NTN.

I'm curious - is there anyone who doesn't believe Snape is "good" (and I use the term lightly)?

[Lathum]

I'm curious - is there anyone who doesn't believe Snape is "good" (and I use the term lightly)?

It's possible but if he is I think that shatters the perception that Dumbledore is infallable.

[ISiddiqui]

Well Dumbledore isn't infallable (OOTP showed that), but if Snape is evil, then Dumbledore is the most duped person in, like, wizarding history. It is referenced that his trust in Snape is ironclad. If he's wrong... wow. That makes DD look horrible.

[Mustang]

My prediction is that Harry is killed. Harry will turn out to be the last horcrux and he will have to make the decision to destroy Voldemort that he will have to be killed. I believe Neville will be the one to kill Harry. Harry will then come back as a ghost to hang around Hogwarts.

[jbmagic]

Harry Potter at the end wakes up and it was all a dream.

[Karlifornia]

I predict he will quit ceramics and become addicted to full body waxing- So basically what I'm saying is that he will no longer be a Hairy Potter.

[AZSpeechCoach]

Harry Potter at the end wakes up and it was all a dream.

He'll wake up next to Suzanne Pleshette!

[Groundhog]

Harry Potter at the end wakes up and it was all a dream.

:D

I HOPE that happens.

[Bearcat729]

He'll wake up next to Suzanne Pleshette!

Actually I think he'll wake up to find Bobby Ewing in the shower

[spleen1015]

If you're goal is to avoid spoilers, I would stay away from ytmnd.com. All of them are on the front page.

[Tyrith]

Neville, Hagrid, Snape dying isn't dramatic enough to end it all. She has talked about crying during writing one of the chapters. She killed DUMBLEDORE in book six. While I hate to say it, not killing one of the big three would be an anti-climax after that. I think we're used to all these kinds of things coming out to really nice endings -- or perhaps we're really hoping for it. Hagrid, for all his loveable charm, doesn't seem like enough to put it over the edge. It has to be a kid.

Hermione. Maybe Harry, but that's almost too cliche, too expected at this point. Ron, well, maybe. But there's something about Hermione dying that settles things better...it is more of a sacrifice. Ginny, bless her, isn't worth nearly as much as the big three, and killing the youngest girl out of the group and leaving the other primaries alive would be brutal. Hermione and Ginny both dying would be over the edge -- to make it remotely realistic Ron and Harry would both nearly have to kill themselves there, which means all of the primary characters are bitter at the end Hermione and Ron I feel would be fitting, and maybe Harry and Ginny could make it through together...Harry and Hermione, well, Harry dying would overshadow Hermione's death too much. Two main deaths would just cast too much of a pall on the ending. In the end the book has to have a happy ending, even if it cost way too much to accomplish.

Beyond that, take a cross section of everyone else, and there will be a lot of corpses. Snape will finally reveal himself to be a hero, probably as a martyr. I suspect the body count will be high enough that I don't feel comfortable predicting beyond that.

[Airhog]

I think dumbledores will play some role in the last book. At least one main character will come under the imperious curse, and at least one main character will be driven mad by a curse. I dont think nevill will say the day. To be honest Harry is theo nly one who can defeat Voldemort. I am not quite sure if Harry will be alive at the end of the book, but I really think that there will only be a few deaths of the main characters, and at least one of the big three being incapacitated

[Coder]

I just got hit by a major spolier reading an article about the leaked book.. bah!

[Buccaneer]

It's getting hard and will be very difficult the next two days. Except for this thread, I am avoiding anything that mentions Potter. I still got a book and a half to go plus the movie before Saturday. It is fun re-reading the books paying attention to the clues that were given in the latter books, specifically HBP.

[Lathum]

I just got hit by a major spolier reading an article about the leaked book.. bah!

was it the new york times review?

as soon as I saw that they purchased the book at a retailer I stopped reading the article.

[ISiddiqui]

That's the best policy. Just avoid reading anything except if you are sure it'll be spoiler free (Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have promised to be spoiler free as well).

[Lathum]

That's the best policy. Just avoid reading anything except if you are sure it'll be spoiler free (Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have promised to be spoiler free as well).

I am almost afraid to come here.

[Lathum]

dola- I wonder if knowing the outcome of the book will affect future generations from reading it. Especialy since the movies will be completed. I can say 100% my kids will read the books before they see the movies.

[Crapshoot]

I am almost afraid to come here.

yeah, there's a part of that's worried that one of the dickheads will post a big spoiler or two.

[Coder]

yeah, there's a part of that's worried that one of the dickheads will post a big spoiler or two.

Don't worry about that from me.. I wouldn't dream of ruining someone elses experience.. I was very disappointed when I read what I read for that simple reason.. they made me second guess whether I want to read the book or not just because I now know what's going to happen..

[Neon_Chaos]

dola- I wonder if knowing the outcome of the book will affect future generations from reading it. Especialy since the movies will be completed. I can say 100% my kids will read the books before they see the movies.

The books should definitely be read before watching the movies. The movies are more like "an accompaniment to" type films instead of stand-alone films of the books.

[oliegirl]

The books should definitely be read before watching the movies. The movies are more like "an accompaniment to" type films instead of stand-alone films of the books.

I had this conversation with someone the other day, they were complaining about the stuff missing from the movie, and we both agreed that the movies, although they follow the same plot, etc...are really their own entity. Although they aren't nearly as good as the books, they are really good and very entertaining/well done movies. Anyone who thinks that seeing the movies replaces reading the books is really missing out.

[Logan]

Plus, Hermione is ugly in the books.

That's like a +14 for watching the movies.

[ISiddiqui]

Err... no she isn't (edit: anymore)...

Unless you mean she's only black and white text in the books and that's not all that great to look at ;).

[Qwikshot]

Don't read if you don't wanna know

http://www.zendurl.com/h/hallows/
Spooilers, lol
Ron dies.
Lupin dies.
Percy dies (this death occurs before the wedding, inevitably throwing events into chaos).
Voldemort dies.
Snape dies.
Details aren?t needed. Just say BELLATRIX KILLS RON!

Snape?s loyalty? I found this to be the saddest part of the book. As many people guessed, all was not what it seemed with Dumbledore, and the two did indeed have a plan that would eventually result in Snape killing him. But, Snape was only in on things for personal gain, and when Voldemort learns of this, he is obviously furious with Snape. Snape tries to make up for things by luring Harry to him, but Harry manages to escape, and Voldemort kills Snape before the final conflict.

I don?t know what all these rumours are about Voldemort kidnapping Ron, it?s a complete lie. Ron is killed by Bellatrix Lestrange in The Battle of Hogwarts, but Neville manages to finish off Bellatrix after Ron weakens her before his death.

Harry Potter is not a horcrux.

As I?ve already stated, Voldemort kills Snape.

Voldemort is killed in the Department Of Mysteries. He baits Harry Potter about his parents, Sirius, Dumbledore and Ron. which turns out to be the worst thing Voldemort could have done. As Voldemort steps out into the circular bit with many doors, Harry Potter opens the locked door, and Voldemort is destroyed by the blinding light, which heals Harry Potter, who seems close to death (he does not die).

The cover art shows Voldemort + Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows, Harry Potter is attempting to summon Voldemort?s Horcrux, as Voldemort is doing his best to keep the enchantment in place.

No-one loses a body part, no idea where that came from?

Also Harry Potter does not get drunk whoever said that.

Harry Potter does not lose his powers.

What?s the deal with the dragon on the US deluxe cover?
The trio fly on it to get to the Deathly Hallows. Only Harry Potter and Voldemort can fight on the Deathly Hallows, but this is not their final encounter.

What?s happening on the UK kids cover?
Gringotts. The trio are searching for the locket (it isnt there) but they get vital information on Ravenclaws book here.

How?s the epilogue done?
I didn?t like it. It was in the form of a newspaper article, a sort of ?Where Are They Now?? thing, 20 years on from the final showdown.

You said Ron dies so what happens to Hermy at the end?
As said, her love life isnt specified. But she becomes a Healer at St. Mungo?s.

What?s Luna/Hagrid/Weasley twins/Neville?s fate?
Becomes editor of Quibbler (her dad passes it on to her)/Remains at Hogwarts to this day/Weasley?s Wizard Wheezes becomes multinational/Herbology teacher at Hogwarts after Sprout?s death (old age she isnt killed)

What happens to Voldy?s body in the end?
Completely obliterated by the love from locked room.

What are the horcruxes? How does Harry Potter find and destroy them?
Nagini/Locket/Cup/Ravenclaws Book. Symbol on UK spine is a device that enables Harry Potter to locate ?soul fragments? if you will, Harry Potter can destroy them a lot more easily than Dumbledore.

What?s the deal with the mirror? How does RAB and Kreacher come into the story?
Sirius has left an almost ?voicemail? message on the mirror, to advise him on destroying the horcrux. Kreacher has to tell the trio (on Harry?s orders) about the history of the symbol and where to find it.

What?s the lies of Dumbledore chapter about?
Neon was right about this, this is to do with the plan with Snape. I don?t know if he got lucky because the Grindelwald thing isnt even close.

What happens to all the teachers? Who?s new headmaster etc?
McGonagall is new headmistress.

What?s Harry?s fate in the end? Job etc?
Becomes an almost freelance Auror but refuses to work for the MoM





You were warned.

[Crapshoot]

Don't worry about that from me.. I wouldn't dream of ruining someone elses experience.. I was very disappointed when I read what I read for that simple reason.. they made me second guess whether I want to read the book or not just because I now know what's going to happen..

Coder, I assure you're not of the people I had in mind. :D

[spleen1015]

Don't read if you don't wanna know

http://www.zendurl.com/h/hallows/
Spooilers, lol
Ron dies.
Lupin dies.
Percy dies (this death occurs before the wedding, inevitably throwing events into chaos).
Voldemort dies.
Snape dies.
Details aren?t needed. Just say BELLATRIX KILLS RON!

Snape?s loyalty? I found this to be the saddest part of the book. As many people guessed, all was not what it seemed with Dumbledore, and the two did indeed have a plan that would eventually result in Snape killing him. But, Snape was only in on things for personal gain, and when Voldemort learns of this, he is obviously furious with Snape. Snape tries to make up for things by luring Harry to him, but Harry manages to escape, and Voldemort kills Snape before the final conflict.

I don?t know what all these rumours are about Voldemort kidnapping Ron, it?s a complete lie. Ron is killed by Bellatrix Lestrange in The Battle of Hogwarts, but Neville manages to finish off Bellatrix after Ron weakens her before his death.

Harry Potter is not a horcrux.

As I?ve already stated, Voldemort kills Snape.

Voldemort is killed in the Department Of Mysteries. He baits Harry Potter about his parents, Sirius, Dumbledore and Ron. which turns out to be the worst thing Voldemort could have done. As Voldemort steps out into the circular bit with many doors, Harry Potter opens the locked door, and Voldemort is destroyed by the blinding light, which heals Harry Potter, who seems close to death (he does not die).

The cover art shows Voldemort + Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows, Harry Potter is attempting to summon Voldemort?s Horcrux, as Voldemort is doing his best to keep the enchantment in place.

No-one loses a body part, no idea where that came from?

Also Harry Potter does not get drunk whoever said that.

Harry Potter does not lose his powers.

What?s the deal with the dragon on the US deluxe cover?
The trio fly on it to get to the Deathly Hallows. Only Harry Potter and Voldemort can fight on the Deathly Hallows, but this is not their final encounter.

What?s happening on the UK kids cover?
Gringotts. The trio are searching for the locket (it isnt there) but they get vital information on Ravenclaws book here.

How?s the epilogue done?
I didn?t like it. It was in the form of a newspaper article, a sort of ?Where Are They Now?? thing, 20 years on from the final showdown.

You said Ron dies so what happens to Hermy at the end?
As said, her love life isnt specified. But she becomes a Healer at St. Mungo?s.

What?s Luna/Hagrid/Weasley twins/Neville?s fate?
Becomes editor of Quibbler (her dad passes it on to her)/Remains at Hogwarts to this day/Weasley?s Wizard Wheezes becomes multinational/Herbology teacher at Hogwarts after Sprout?s death (old age she isnt killed)

What happens to Voldy?s body in the end?
Completely obliterated by the love from locked room.

What are the horcruxes? How does Harry Potter find and destroy them?
Nagini/Locket/Cup/Ravenclaws Book. Symbol on UK spine is a device that enables Harry Potter to locate ?soul fragments? if you will, Harry Potter can destroy them a lot more easily than Dumbledore.

What?s the deal with the mirror? How does RAB and Kreacher come into the story?
Sirius has left an almost ?voicemail? message on the mirror, to advise him on destroying the horcrux. Kreacher has to tell the trio (on Harry?s orders) about the history of the symbol and where to find it.

What?s the lies of Dumbledore chapter about?
Neon was right about this, this is to do with the plan with Snape. I don?t know if he got lucky because the Grindelwald thing isnt even close.

What happens to all the teachers? Who?s new headmaster etc?
McGonagall is new headmistress.

What?s Harry?s fate in the end? Job etc?
Becomes an almost freelance Auror but refuses to work for the MoM





You were warned.


Much of that contradicts what I have seen, so I guess I will just find out when I read the book.

[Qwikshot]

Much of that contradicts what I have seen, so I guess I will just find out when I read the book.

I concur, the disinformation flowing right now allows for any scenario to be possible. I'm hoping this one isn't so true, but a lot of it makes sense.

[spleen1015]

I concur, the disinformation flowing right now allows for any scenario to be possible. I'm hoping this one isn't so true, but a lot of it makes sense.

The others I have seen include scans of pages, so you never know.

[Neon_Chaos]

I've reread the entire series from book 6...

I have a feeling that the big 3 will live. Harry, Hermoine, and Ron.

Snape will most probably die. But he will redeem himself, that I'm sure. Snape's one of the most complicated characters in the book. I even think he's done everything he could because he could have been in love with Lily all his life (something that has very, very subtely been hinted in Book 6). And, yes, I believe he did kill Dumbledore... but under Dumbledore's orders.

Lupin has to die. Even if it hurts Tonks... because... well, Lupin can't survive with James and Sirius dead.

A Weasley has to die, as well. Percy possibly? Surely not Bill. I'm not buying Ron dying. Maybe one of the twins, either Fred or George. Ginny dying is the least I would expect.

I'm sure Rowling'll be killing off Order and Eater members everywhere.

[Ksyrup]

Here's an excerpt from Chapter 32 that's been leaked!!!


http://themuggletongue.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/snape-of-bel-air.gif

[Coder]

Here's an excerpt from Chapter 32 that's been leaked!!!


http://themuggletongue.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/snape-of-bel-air.gif

Fresh Snape of Bel Air! OH NOES!

[Ksyrup]

I just got hit by a major spolier reading an article about the leaked book.. bah!

From what I just read (where I got that pic), the Baltimore Sun got an advance copy and their review gives the entire thing away, so those of you wanting to steer clear of spoilers, don't read that review.

[Bee]

Maybe a thread should be started to list all the things to avoid to not see a Harry Potter spoiler. :D

[Butter]

If you read anything about Harry Potter from this point on, before you have read the whole book, you deserve to have it spoiled. I can understand if you hear something on TV in the background that you didn't mean to hear, but if you click on something related to Harry Potter from now on, or start reading a review of the book or ANYTHING about the book... you are going to have it spoiled. People just can't wait to talk about it. News outlets just can't wait to talk about it. NO ONE can wait to blab all about it.

[terpkristin]

If you read anything about Harry Potter from this point on, before you have read the whole book, you deserve to have it spoiled. I can understand if you hear something on TV in the background that you didn't mean to hear, but if you click on something related to Harry Potter from now on, or start reading a review of the book or ANYTHING about the book... you are going to have it spoiled. People just can't wait to talk about it. News outlets just can't wait to talk about it. NO ONE can wait to blab all about it.

I would tend to agree with this, in general, but sometimes, you can get hosed by things. When HBP came out, an acquaintance sent me a link to a LiveJournal entry where it was nothing but a scan of the page where Snape kills Dumbledore. I was so torqued. This guy usually sends interesting links, and I had no reason to think it was going to be a HP spoiler. Similarly, with so many people using that stupid assinine tiny url service, it can be hard to know what you're getting all the time.

That said, for "big" places, I'm not clicking on things I can obviously see are related where there may be a chance for spoilers. People here are usually pretty good about spoilers, and once I get the book, I won't be visiting here--I'll be too busy reading. Mugglenet and Leaky are also good about spoilers, so I'll still trust them, too. Still a royal pain when you get links to things that unexpectedly turn out to be spoilers.

/tk

[Barkeep49]

Being a complete dork, I waited in line to wait in line and now have my number for tonight.

[cthomer5000]

Dont worry guys. There will definitely be more than 7 books... though maybe not in English (or even legal):

http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/07/20/the-ultimate-sequels-aka-asia-loves-you-%e5%93%88%e5%88%a9%c2%b7%e6%b3%a2%e7%89%b9/

[Neon_Chaos]

Got my copy today! :D Seems like the people at the bookstores here in the Philippines actually set the date a few hours earlier. Can't wait to read!

[Shkspr]

Oh, Jeez, what a damn good book. One minor plot point I didn't follow, and several widely held predictions that came true, but the last 300 pages in particular are masterful. Plot points from the first book coming full circle, new looks at previously seen scenes, and even the fan service works. If Rowling really did write the last chapter years ago (and it reads as though she could), then she's managed to keep the whole series on track much better than one would think over seven books.

Wow.

[spleen1015]

Has anyone seen the UPS man?

[Shkspr]

Don't read if you don't wanna know


Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut.


You were warned.

Good to see most of the spoiler sites were posting crap (not all, though.:mad: )

[Coder]

Oh, Jeez, what a damn good book. One minor plot point I didn't follow, and several widely held predictions that came true, but the last 300 pages in particular are masterful. Plot points from the first book coming full circle, new looks at previously seen scenes, and even the fan service works. If Rowling really did write the last chapter years ago (and it reads as though she could), then she's managed to keep the whole series on track much better than one would think over seven books.

Wow.

Haven't read the book yet, but what you're describing is exactly why I consider Rowling to be an outstanding author. She weaves a story better than just about anyone I've read, and that includes some very very very good authors.

She's not my favorite author, but she's definately the best author I know at working a plot.

She'll always catch "flack" for writing what many consider a children's series, but anyone who's read her books can see that she's an exceptional writer.

[Rich1033]

Has anyone seen the UPS man?

Not on a saturday.

[spleen1015]

Not on a saturday.

Amazon guaranteed release day delivery and they shipped UPS. So, yes, there will be a UPS man today!

[bosshogg23]

Amazon guaranteed release day delivery and they shipped UPS. So, yes, there will be a UPS man today!

My book just arrived via USPS. All my Amazon shipments come from USPS not UPS. B&N comes UPS. Anyways time to read ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

UPS rocked. Book arrived at 9:30 this morning, I pretty much did nothing but read until about 2 this afternoon.

Now I wanna discuss the book with people, dammit. :)

[WVUFAN]

My book just arrived via USPS. All my Amazon shipments come from USPS not UPS. B&N comes UPS. Anyways time to read ;)

Amazon shipped them both ways ... initially via UPS to the local USPS, then USPS delivery on that Saturday. Some areas got strict UPS delivery, but most of the orders were delivered via USPS.

[Bearcat729]

So I just finished the book and



Doesn't it seem like the easy way out. I figured she had to kill Harry but why not just leave him dead?

I'm not totally sure why she killed off some of the people she killed, and let others live. Why would the Malfoy's turn like that in the end?

Anyways I can't imagine there is never going to be another Harry Potter Book made now. Leaving so many openings

[Shkspr]

So I just finished the book and



Doesn't it seem like the easy way out. I figured she had to kill Harry but why not just leave him dead?

The books make this point enough that I suspect Rowling knew she had to get it across, but the series isn't the story of a young man who dies to save his friends; it's the story of a young man who is WILLING to die to save his friends. It isn't necessary to kill him to tell that story.


I'm not totally sure why she killed off some of the people she killed, and let others live. Why would the Malfoy's turn like that in the end?

Killing off certain people in the climax serves to bring the story around full circle, with Harry in the position to be the kind of man he always wished Sirius could have been. The behavior of Narcissa at the climax is predicated solely by self-interest, keeping in mind the family's disfavor with Voldemort.


Anyways I can't imagine there is never going to be another Harry Potter Book made now. Leaving so many openings

I've always thought that the world of Hogwarts could spin decades of stories for Rowling without her ever having to give another line of dialogue to Harry, Ron, or Hermione. I've also always thought I'd be happy to read those stories. I think if there is a new book it'll be about what the kids do when the First Hallow disappears from its final resting place again.


(discussion inside spoiler tags)

[Coffee Warlord]

She left a hugggge opening at the end there, with Harry's son Albus. Just had to mention he was the only one who inherited Lily's eyes. And took him aside for a little secret that he hadn't told any of his other children.

More books centered around Albus Severus Potter (what a freakin' name) seem very likely to me, if she does decide to write more.

And I can't believe she offed one of the twins. Jerk. :)

[GrantDawg]

Finished a couple hours ago. Not as many surprises as I expected.

[SirFozzie]

I'm not sure the explaining of Dumbledore's history works for me, to be quite honest. Yes, Dumbledore's always been the Gandalf of the series, but.. he seemed to be way too Machivallian for my tastes in this book.

There's a very satisfied group of 'shippers, probably

[Buccaneer]

My head hurts. I just read the book in 10+ hours today and all 7 books in 10 days (plus watching 5 movies). Like I said, my head hurts.


No surprises and very close to what I predicted. Everyone lives happily ever after.

[Buccaneer]

I've reread the entire series from book 6...

I have a feeling that the big 3 will live. Harry, Hermoine, and Ron.

Snape will most probably die. But he will redeem himself, that I'm sure. Snape's one of the most complicated characters in the book. I even think he's done everything he could because he could have been in love with Lily all his life (something that has very, very subtely been hinted in Book 6). And, yes, I believe he did kill Dumbledore... but under Dumbledore's orders.

Lupin has to die. Even if it hurts Tonks... because... well, Lupin can't survive with James and Sirius dead.

A Weasley has to die, as well. Percy possibly? Surely not Bill. I'm not buying Ron dying. Maybe one of the twins, either Fred or George. Ginny dying is the least I would expect.

I'm sure Rowling'll be killing off Order and Eater members everywhere.

Nice work.

[Barkeep49]

Finished it.
The ending was a disappointment. I mean Harry does what exactly in life?

I feel like she copped out to a large extent with the lack of a major character death. Hell I felt worse about Hedwig dying than any of the humans.

I am glad that I was right about Snape.

I do give her credit since she's a much stronger author than she was in book one. The writing is stronger and the characters more complex. I do not feel like Dumbledoor was a different character so much as we were finally allowed to see the fully measure of the man. Harry had grown up and so his need to make Dumbledoor something larger than any human could be, was no longer necessary.

A satisfying conclusion, I suppose, but still a let down for me.

[Barkeep49]

Also having a whole thread of spoiler tags seems silly and sort of inconvenient. Seems to me it would make sense to have a thread, complete with acknowledged spoilers, for people who have finished the book.

[bosshogg23]

Also having a whole thread of spoiler tags seems silly and sort of inconvenient. Seems to me it would make sense to have a thread, complete with acknowledged spoilers, for people who have finished the book.

I agree.

If for no reason than some people won't use the tags correctly.

[Neon_Chaos]

Nice work.

Just finished. Wow. I couldn't believe how close I was.

[stevew]

If you read anything about Harry Potter from this point on, before you have read the whole book, you deserve to have it spoiled. I can understand if you hear something on TV in the background that you didn't mean to hear, but if you click on something related to Harry Potter from now on, or start reading a review of the book or ANYTHING about the book... you are going to have it spoiled. People just can't wait to talk about it. News outlets just can't wait to talk about it. NO ONE can wait to blab all about it.

Yeah, word!

Snape kills dumbledore!!!

[spleen1015]

Amazon shipped them both ways ... initially via UPS to the local USPS, then USPS delivery on that Saturday. Some areas got strict UPS delivery, but most of the orders were delivered via USPS.

Here's the funny part. They shipped it via UPS to my Post Office, then they delivered it to my mailbox.

[Logan]

Just finished. Wow. I couldn't believe how close I was.

JK Rowling? :eek: :eek: :eek: