2007 FOFC Alternate Rules Football; Season Underway

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Ok, I'm starting out this year's version of my "alternate rules" fantasy football league for FOFC. The spiel is mostly the same from the previous year but there are some rules changes, as I am ever tweaking.

In the first season (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=41688), 2005, the Rafini Express steamrolled the rest of the league; led by Tomlinson, Palmer, Hasselbeck, and a solid receiving corps.

In 2006 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51190), Eleven Masked Men won the regular season while 5 teams were at either 9-5 or 8-6 but only three made the playoffs. The #4 and #3 seeds won in the playoffs with the balanced Marino Gets a Title winning over the LT-led Houston Hippopotami.

FYI: Until Saturday night, preference goes to teams who were in the league last year but after that, it's open to anyone. Post below to get on the "waiting list". There is already one team in the league (a guy I know in real life who I am trying to convert to the format) but he replaces WrongWay's dead team.

For those of you who have played in my leagues before, you know the league runs a little different than most, at least with regards to football (I think my baseball leagues are pretty standard). I've always hated the stereotypical fantasy football leagues where the first two rounds are a mad scramble for RBs, the 12th best QB in the league is useless in a 10 team league, and WRs are crap outside of a couple of studs. Not the case here, as I've been trying to perfect my formula and I think it's getting better each year but it's definitely non-standard.

Lastly, gotta have active owners: if you've played in a league I've been in and quit, unless you PM me with a good explaination, you'll be kicked out of the league before draft day and your spot will go to someone else. Check the draft date, too, since I've seen a lot of people not check it and then drop out because they didn't get the team they wanted. So, please, only join if you're going to be able to draft and play.

MAKE SURE YOU READ THE LEAGUE RULES BEFORE YOU JOIN AND AGAIN BEFORE THE DRAFT! I'll try to outline the major changes made below but any writeup will be somewhat incomplete. I've been trying to make sure and balance out the three main positions. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than what's out there, in my opinion:
* First thing you'll notice is 2 QBs- your 2nd and even 3rd QB does matter, just as much as your 2nd and 3rd RBs. No more mad scramble solely for RBs.
* There are 3 WRs and an RB/WR flex. Not only that but WRs are worth 10/1 versus 15/1 for RBs and 40/1 for QBs
* Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done with TE's- if I could put a blanket 1.5* multiplier on them, I would, but as it stands, TE's kindof suck out loud
* There are kindof 2 tiers of players: QBs/RBs/WRs and Ks/DEFs/TEs. The first are worth slightly more as they are believed to be more important. However, those second tiers are still worth big points, especially good ones, and can offset a bad week by a top tier player.
* There's a lot of emphasis on positional scarcity- 2 of pretty much everything in a 10 taem league means 20 QBs, 20 RBs, 20 Ks, and 20 DEFs will be starting each and every week which only leaves 10 in the pool at max. You only get 5 bench spaces so use them well- no hoarding that 4th K or even 3rd K if it means dropping that injured RB who's about to come back or that backup for your stud who you have as a 4th RB.

Also, a couple of changes versus last year:
* Added a RB/WR slot
* Dropped the bench down to 5 this year. Even more roster management necessary but with such a deep league, there can't be too much talent sitting on benches.
* Went from 1 TE to 2 TEs. Even tho they suck at points.
* Rather than the 40 yds/pt for QBs with the 300 yard game bonus, I just went with a straight 30/1.
* I think this one is kindof big- WR's get 0.5 per reception. Not sure how this will work out but I kindof like it to help give possession receivers more value.
* Tweaked some of the defense points a little, will do some more in the next couple of days when I get a better chance to look as I haven't checked how balanced things are

If you just want the Cliff's notes version, here it is:
* 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR flex as primary positions with yards weighted 30/15/10 to help out WRs some and TDs at 4/5/5.
* 2 DEF, 2 K, 2 TE as secondary positions but still worth decent points, tho only elite TE's are worth something- unfortunately, I can't do much about that
* Only 5 bench spots with a lot of starters so you'll have to know your team

I've toyed with making this a keeper league this season, particularly liking the "you can keep 1 QB/RB/WR" format from the CBS Keeper League so it balances things out. However, I think I'll pass for one more season while we keep tweaking the formula. Speaking of which, as always, rules feedback is welcomed and encouraged! But we do have to make changes by the end of the weekend so it's fair to anyone who has to make a draft list (tho better for everyone to try and make the live draft due to the odd format).

Ok, after that novella, looks like we're ready to go. Remember, until Saturday, preference goes to teams from last year but after that, it's open to anyone. Post if you want to get on the "waiting list". However, due to the league setup, there is no possible way to expand this league beyond 10 teams so it's 10 max, otherwise talent gets tremendously thin at 12 or higher.



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In
SterlingIce (Houston Hippopotami) - Checked In
BrianB (Vegas Golden Aces) - Checked In
molson (Enchanted Goats) - Checked In
Masked (Eleven Masked Men) - Checked In
TazFTW (Tazmaniacs) - Checked In
bosshogg23 (Philly Chumps) - Checked In
k0ruptr (Hawaii Haka) - Checked In
Doug5984 (Louisiana Cyclones) - Checked In
larrymcg421 (Dunwoody Dolphins) - Checked In
Racer (Little Macs) - In

<table class="teamtable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="first">League ID#:</td> <td class="last">210962</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">League Name:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">FOFC Hardcore</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Password:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">dola</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Custom League URL:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/fofchardcore</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Live Draft </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Sat Aug 25 7:30pm CDT [ Add to My Calendar (http://calendar.yahoo.com/?v=60&TITLE=Yahoo%21+Sports+Fantasy+Football+Live+Draft&TYPE=20&URL=http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com&ST=20070825T173000&DUR=0300&REM1=60m) ] </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Scoring Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Head-to-Head </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Start Scoring on:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 1 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Can't Cut List Provider:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yahoo! Sports </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Moves:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Trades:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Reject Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 1 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade End Date:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> November 16, 2007 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Review:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> League Votes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 1 day </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Post Draft Players:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Follow Waiver Rules </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoffs:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Roster Positions:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, TE, W/R, K, K, DEF, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN </td> </tr> <!-- --> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Stat Categories:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Passing Yards (30 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Yards (12 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (5)
Receptions (0.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (5)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (4)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (4)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (4)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (5)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (6)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1.5)
Fumble Recovery (1.5)
Touchdown (5)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (1)
Points Allowed 0 points (12)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (10)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (5)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (2)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-2)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-5) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Fractional Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Negative Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yes</td></tr></tbody></table>



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2006 League Info

Thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51190)

<table class="teamtable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="first">League ID#:</td> <td class="last">202492</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">League Name:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">FOFCs Alternate Rules</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Password:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">dola</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Live Draft </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Sat Aug 19 12:30pm CDT </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Scoring Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Head-to-Head </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Start Scoring on:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 1 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Can't Cut List Provider:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yahoo! Sports </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Moves:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Trades:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Reject Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade End Date:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> November 17, 2006 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Review:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> League Votes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 days </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Post Draft Players:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Follow Waiver Rules </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoffs:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Roster Positions:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, K, DEF, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN </td> </tr> <!-- --> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Stat Categories:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Passing Yards (40 yards per point; 5 points at 300 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Yards (15 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (5)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles (-1)
Fumbles Lost (-1)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (4)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (4)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (4)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (5)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (6)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (5)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Return Yards (100 yards per point)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (5)
Points Allowed 0 points (15)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (10)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (5)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (2)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-2)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-5) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Fractional Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Negative Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yes</td></tr></tbody></table>





<table class="gametable" id="standingstable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="first rank">*1.</td> <td class="team">Marino Gets a Title (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/8)</td> <td>9-5-0</td> <td>.643</td> <td>1363</td> <td>W-2</td> <td>8</td> <td class="last">14</td> </tr> <tr class="selected"> <td class="first rank">*2.</td> <td class="team">Houston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/1)</td> <td>8-6-0</td> <td>.571</td> <td>1556</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>10</td> <td class="last">31</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">*3.</td> <td class="team">Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/2)</td> <td>11-3-0</td> <td>.786</td> <td>1596</td> <td>L-2</td> <td>2</td> <td class="last">20</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">*4.</td> <td class="team">Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/5)</td> <td>9-5-0</td> <td>.643</td> <td>1477</td> <td>W-2</td> <td>5</td> <td class="last">5</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">5.</td> <td class="team">Fremont 49ers (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/10)</td> <td>4-9-1</td> <td>.321</td> <td>1279</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>4</td> <td class="last">5</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">6.</td> <td class="team">Enchanted Goats (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/6)</td> <td>8-6-0</td> <td>.571</td> <td>1381</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>7</td> <td class="last">51</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">7.</td> <td class="team">Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/4)</td> <td>8-6-0</td> <td>.571</td> <td>1543</td> <td>W-2</td> <td>6</td> <td class="last">12</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">8.</td> <td class="team">Wasabi AK (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/7)</td> <td>6-7-1</td> <td>.464</td> <td>1430</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>3</td> <td class="last">31</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">9.</td> <td class="team">Poison Pills (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/3)</td> <td>4-10-0</td> <td>.286</td> <td>1320</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>1</td> <td class="last">11</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">10.</td> <td class="team">WrongWay's Dead Team (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/9)</td> <td>2-12-0</td> <td>.143</td> <td>1153</td> <td>L-7</td> <td>9</td> <td class="last">5</td></tr></tbody></table>

1st

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/nfl/icon_08_48.gifMarino Gets a Title (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/8)
2nd

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/nfl/icon_06_48.gifHouston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/1)
3rd

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/nfl/icon_09_48.gifEleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/2)<table id="playofftable" class="gametable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead> <tr> <th>Week 15
(Dec 12 - Dec 18)</th> <th>Week 16
(Dec 19 - Dec 25)</th> <th> </th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td class="semi"> Semifinal(1) Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/2)(4) Houston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/1)
Semifinal(2) Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/5)(3) Marino Gets a Title (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/8)
</td> <td class="final"> Final(4) Houston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/1)(3) Marino Gets a Title (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/8)
</td> <td class="champ"> League Champion(3) Marino Gets a Title (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/8)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td>3rd Place Game(1) Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/2)(2) Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/5)
</td> <td>3rd Place Winner(1) Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/2)
</td></tr></tbody></table>



<table id="playofftable" class="gametable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead><tr><th>Week 15
(Dec 12 - Dec 18)</th> <th>Week 16
(Dec 19 - Dec 25)</th> <th> </th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td class="semi"> Semifinal(5) Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/4)(8) Fremont 49ers (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/10)
Semifinal(6) Enchanted Goats (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/6)(7) Wasabi AK (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/7)
</td> <td class="final"> 5th Place Game(8) Fremont 49ers (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/10)(6) Enchanted Goats (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/6)
</td> <td class="champ"> 5th Place Winner(8) Fremont 49ers (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/10)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td>7th Place Game(5) Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/4)(7) Wasabi AK (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/7)
</td> <td>7th Place Winner(5) Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2006/202492/4)
</td></tr></tbody></table>


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2005 League Info

Thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=41688)


<table class="teamtable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="first">League ID#:</td> <td class="last">428777</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">League Name:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">FOFC</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Password:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">dola</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Live Draft </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Tue Aug 30 8:00pm CDT </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Scoring Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Head-to-Head </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Start Scoring on:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 1 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Can't Cut List Provider:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yahoo! Sports </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Moves:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Trades:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Reject Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade End Date:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> November 25, 2005 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Review:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> League Votes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 days </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Post Draft Players:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Follow Waiver Rules </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoffs:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Roster Positions:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN </td> </tr> <!-- --> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Stat Categories:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (5)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Yards (15 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (5)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-1)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (4)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (4)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (4)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (5)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Return Yards (100 yards per point)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (5)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (8)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (6)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (4)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (2)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (0)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-2) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Fractional Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Negative Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yes</td></tr></tbody></table>


<table class="gametable" id="standingstable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead><tr><th class="first rank">Rank</th> <th class="team">Team</th> <th class="wlt">W-L-T</th> <th>Pct</th> <th>Pts</th> <th>Streak</th> <th>Waiver</th> <th class="last">Moves</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td class="first rank">*1.</td> <td class="team">Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/3)</td> <td>11-3-0</td> <td>.786</td> <td>1462</td> <td>W-4</td> <td>9</td> <td class="last">15</td> </tr> <tr class="selected"> <td class="first rank">*2.</td> <td class="team">Houston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/1)</td> <td>10-3-1</td> <td>.750</td> <td>1320</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>6</td> <td class="last">33</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">*3.</td> <td class="team">Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/6)</td> <td>8-6-0</td> <td>.571</td> <td>1216</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>10</td> <td class="last">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">*4.</td> <td class="team">Tazmaniacs (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/7)</td> <td>7-7-0</td> <td>.500</td> <td>1296</td> <td>L-4</td> <td>7</td> <td class="last">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">5.</td> <td class="team">Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/5)</td> <td>6-8-0</td> <td>.429</td> <td>1142</td> <td>L-3</td> <td>4</td> <td class="last">12</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">6.</td> <td class="team">You done did it (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/8)</td> <td>6-8-0</td> <td>.429</td> <td>1025</td> <td>W-4</td> <td>1</td> <td class="last">3</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">7.</td> <td class="team">bbors (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/2)</td> <td>6-8-0</td> <td>.429</td> <td>1172</td> <td>W-2</td> <td>3</td> <td class="last">5</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">8.</td> <td class="team">Jeeber's Sucky Team (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/4)</td> <td>7-7-0</td> <td>.500</td> <td>1267</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>5</td> <td class="last">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">9.</td> <td class="team">Team Pennywise (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/10)</td> <td>4-9-1</td> <td>.321</td> <td>1058</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>8</td> <td class="last">16</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">10.</td> <td class="team">Cowering Whities (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/9)</td> <td>4-10-0</td> <td>.286</td> <td>954</td> <td>L-2</td> <td>2</td> <td class="last">-</td></tr></tbody></table>





1st

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/nfl/icon_04_48.gifRafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/3)
2nd

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/nfl/icon_12_48.gifHouston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/1)
3rd

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/nfl/icon_06_48.gifPhilly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/6)
<table id="playofftable" class="gametable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead> <tr> <th>Week 15
(Dec 13 - Dec 19)</th> <th>Week 16
(Dec 20 - Dec 26)</th> <th> </th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td class="semi"> Semifinal(1) Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/3)(4) Tazmaniacs (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/7)
Semifinal(2) Houston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/1)(3) Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/6)
</td> <td class="final"> Final(1) Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/3)(2) Houston Hippopotami (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/1)
</td> <td class="champ"> League Champion(1) Rafini Express (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/3)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td>3rd Place Game(4) Tazmaniacs (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/7)(3) Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/6)
</td> <td>3rd Place Winner(3) Philly Chumps (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/6)
</td></tr></tbody></table>


<table id="playofftable" class="gametable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead><tr><th>Week 15
(Dec 13 - Dec 19)</th> <th>Week 16
(Dec 20 - Dec 26)</th> <th> </th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td class="semi"> Semifinal(5) Jeeber's Sucky Team (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/4)(8) You done did it (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/8)
Semifinal(6) bbors (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/2)(7) Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/5)
</td> <td class="final"> 5th Place Game(8) You done did it (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/8)(7) Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/5)
</td> <td class="champ"> 5th Place Winner(7) Eleven Masked Men (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/5)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td>7th Place Game(5) Jeeber's Sucky Team (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/4)(6) bbors (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/2)
</td> <td>7th Place Winner(6) bbors (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2005/428777/2)
</td></tr></tbody></table>



SI

[k0ruptr]

I'd like to be on the waiting list.

[sterlingice]

Ok, you're on the waiting list in post 2

SI

[molson]

I finished one game out of the playoffs last year, and would love another shot. I'm in. (Enchanted Goats).

Any idea when the draft would be?

[sterlingice]

Oh yeah, that would be useful information. It's going to be next Saturday late afternoon, if that works. I'll post that and the preliminary rules in the 2nd post.

SI

[sterlingice]

Bump

SI

[Masked]

Count me in - have to avenge last season's disappointing end

[TazFTW]

In for the third year.

[sterlingice]

Ok, forgot a smidge of important information (league name and pass)- it's in the 2nd post above. Again, if you've been in the league in year's past, join up. If you're on the waiting list, you're going to be kicked out until Saturday night and the waiting list people will be added in the order they got on the list.

SI

[Doug5984]

I would love to be added to the waiting list on this.

[kingfc22]

I'm probably in. As long as I can make a draft list since I probably won't be able to make the live draft.

[bosshogg23]

Yahoo says the league is full currently.

[sterlingice]

There are only 5 currently. Are you sure you aren't using a league id from a past year?

SI

[bosshogg23]

There are only 5 currently. Are you sure you aren't using a league id from a past year?

SI

That's probably what it was. :p

In now.

[sterlingice]

Tomorrow is the last day for old teams to join up.

SI

[sterlingice]

Using the points system in place, here are the positional distributions over the past 2 years. Keep in mind, we're running a 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, and 1 RB/WR flex this season.

2006 Disribution
001-025: 7 QB, 7 RB, 11 WR
025-050: 7 QB, 7 RB, 10 WR, 1 TE
Top 100: 24 QB, 27 RB, 41 WR, 8 TE

2005 Disribution
001-025: 7 QB, 7 RB, 10 WR, 1 TE
025-050: 7 QB, 6 RB, 12 WR
Top 100: 22 QB, 26 RB, 43 WR, 9 TE (95.5 pts)

I tweaked some scoring settings so take a look- they are posted in the above thread and in Yahoo, of course. RBs were a little undervalued so they're up to 12yds per pt instead of 10. Defense were completely changed so look at their settings. The killer here is that Chicago and Baltimore from last year and then Chicago and Carolina from the year before are really skewing the results.

I hate that there are fractional points but there are no other ways to give receptions and balance defense. 1 pt per reception would be way too strong and Yahoo doesn't let you go 2 receptions = 1 pt and if you only get 1, you get 0 points like they do with yards. So, I think I'm just going to go with fractional points all around (EDIT: did that later on, after the calculations above). Same with defense, 1.5 for Ints and Fumbles and 1 for sacks, otherwise defenses aren't worth enough but if you pump Ints and Fumbles up to 2, that's a lot of points, particularly for elite defenses (andother 30-40 pts per season).

Any rules thoughts, anyone?

Also, the two on the waiting list (k0ruptr, Doug5984) are welcome to join. Starting tomorrow, the last two spots will be open to whoever joins first.

SI

[sterlingice]

Ok, we're up to 8 teams so there are 2 left. Anyone can join now, the league name and pass are in the 2nd post. I ask that if you join, you can make the draft next Saturday and that you plan on staying active in the league.

SI

[sterlingice]

Another bump. Same as before. 2 spots in the league left. Draft Saturday. Different rules (i.e. 2 QB) so check them before drafting.

SI

[cmp]

I'm in as the Grand Rapids Golds

[sterlingice]

Welcome, gold. Glad to see another new team :)

Now just need one more person for the draft on Saturday.


SI

[sterlingice]

Still needing one more.

One? More?

SI

[molson]

C'mon people, this is a kick-ass league with a unique and awesome scoring system. It's not just "who got the best RB", there's way more strategy here with the modified stats and 2 active QB requirement.

Drafting Saturday - get in!

[bosshogg23]

It's also a great chance for someone to add a 2nd Place prize trophy to their Yahoo Trophy Profile ;)

[sterlingice]

I'm going to keep bumping this thread until someone joins because we only have 9 for the draft tomorrow and everyone else in the league just might do the same :D

SI

[Doug5984]

I'm going to keep bumping this thread until someone joins because we only have 9 for the draft tomorrow and everyone else in the league just might do the same :D

SI


good idea...

I second whoever said this is a much more interesting league, not just who got the best pair of RBs. I gave up fantasy football for a couple years because it got boring unless you got a great RB- this seems to be quite a bit different, and more knowledge of the game.

[k0ruptr]

that why I decided to join as well, my first fantasy league in 3 years, yall got me excited about it again.

[molson]

Can the league be opened up to the public? I know a lot of people check out Yahoo to find a league where they can draft immediately.

It's odd that we can't fill up a fantasy league on this board - I blame keeper leagues.

[Mr. Wednesday]

How late is late afternoon, and how long do you expect the draft to run?

[molson]

How late is late afternoon, and how long do you expect the draft to run?

It looks like it's set for 8:30 Eastern.

190 total players to be drafted. 2-3 hours maybe?

[Mr. Wednesday]

8:30's too late for me to do live.

I'll consider it anyway, the biggest issue is that it's imperative to do some serious ranking of players assuming Y! hasn't improved their handling of leagues with non-default scoring.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, "I'll consider it" is an open invitation to anyone else who's interested to jump in ahead of me. :)

[sterlingice]

Well, another bump for anyone else wanting to join up or as a reminder to Mr W :)

Also, I may start a thread tomorrow just about "Needing 1 for fantasy football league" since not everyone checks every little thread on here.

EDIT: Actually, I'll just edit the thread title until tomorrow.

SI

[larrymcg421]

I signed up. About 90% sure I can make the live draft, but I'll set up a list just in case.

[sterlingice]

Cool :D

Just a reminder, of course, to everyone that the draft is tonight.

SI

[sterlingice]

1 Hour until the draft. Something I noticed that was a little quirky about Yahoo this year when doing a draft with a friend the other night is that there is no "Draft Now" link on the front page- you have to go to your team page once the draft room is open.

SI

[TazFTW]

1 Hour until the draft. Something I noticed that was a little quirky about Yahoo this year when doing a draft with a friend the other night is that there is no "Draft Now" link on the front page- you have to go to your team page once the draft room is open.

SI

Where is it?

[sterlingice]

I'm kindof wondering that myself at the moment.

SI

[k0ruptr]

lol same here, it hasnt opened up yet for me.

[cmp]

Yeah, waiting for it to show up.

[k0ruptr]

starting to wish I made some predraft rankings lol..arg

[molson]

Inside of 5 minutes and no draft room yet? Isn't it usually like 30 minutes?

[sterlingice]

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything and, yes, typically 30 minutes before the start is when you get a link. I've emailed Yahoo but I'm sure they won't respond in time. Not entirely sure what's going on but I'm going to keep trying to figure it out.

SI

[k0ruptr]

still nothing.. grr

[molson]

Time's up - still no draft?

[sterlingice]

No idea what to do at this point. I've never had a problem with Yahoo before- no idea if they're clogged full of traffic tonight or anything.

SI

[molson]

ESPN fantasy baseball implodes, now Yahoo football - you'd think running fantasy software wouldn't be the most complicated thing in the world for billion dollar companies.

[sterlingice]

Ok, the Google ad is mocking me:
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As it is right now, if the game autodrafts entire teams, might as well just start another league. Still trying to see if I can figure something out or if Yahoo will decide to magically work but I'm not exactly confident at the moment.

SI

[k0ruptr]

hahaha

[sterlingice]

The real kicker is that when I went and tried to mess with commissioner settings, it said I couldn't because the league was in draft mode.

SI

[molson]

My guess is it'll kick in at 12:01 AM or something when we're all gone, and everything will get auto-picked.

Well, if you setup another league or get another time, I'll still be there if I can make it.

[Doug5984]

Well it hasn't started Auto-drafting yet, and I'm sure the time would've been passed for a couple teams already. My guess is the servers shitted out, and who knows- maybe the link will pop up shortly and it'll be an hour behind, sort of like Hattrick used to do

[TazFTW]

I predict it will autodraft Michael Vick for me. :(

[molson]

I'll take LT #1, thanks.

[k0ruptr]

Hmm apparently a bunch of people have had tha same problems recently after a quick google. Unfortunatly no one found a solution.

[molson]

It looks like the draft order was set - Grand Rapids has the #1 pick.

[Doug5984]

Hmm apparently a bunch of people have had tha same problems recently after a quick google. Unfortunatly no one found a solution.

With their problems, were teams auto-drafted... or did the draft just start really late?

[sterlingice]

Yeah, I'm ticked because I like that 10 pick with the back-to-backs and nothing :(

SI

[k0ruptr]

not sure, looks like it might of just gotten stuck or something,

heres what i was talking about

hxxp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070821175548AAYpIrp

[sterlingice]

I found a different one:

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index.php?qid=20070825084235AAgGyPU

That said, at this point, I'm pretty sure it's not going to work since we've waited 30 minutes.

I'm going to create a new league for next week, I guess. I tried to create one but it won't let me change the draft time at all right now so I think their servers are just completely hosed.

SI

[sterlingice]

Here's the league info for the second league I set up.

league: 593933
pass: dola

They wouldn't let me set up a draft for now or anytime tonight or I'd just do that :(

SI

[cougarfreak]

I was in a league that was supposed to draft tonight as well. Same shit for me. I was about to make a post on here for people to let them know that Yahoo sucks. I did the yahoo answers thing, and apparently it's been going on for several days for all kinds of leagues.

[k0ruptr]

ok . sounds good to me. damn yahoo lol.

I donno if I'll be able to make another live draft unless its on a sunday like tomorrow or next week or on labor day, other than that I have 0 free time

Yea absolutely no chance I make next week saturday. I'm moving into my new apartment and Hawaii Opens up there season at 6 pm that night and I have to tailgate.

[sterlingice]

That stinks, tho. I'm sure someone in this league has a life and might be doing stuff over Labor Day next weekend (I won't; my biggest plans right now are for doing laundry but that's not the point...). But keep that in mind- next weekend is Labor Day.

SI

[sterlingice]

Then again, it sounds like people are having trouble joining the new league now :rolleyes:

SI

[sterlingice]

Ok, now it looks like people can join (the new league, not the old one)

SI

[k0ruptr]

I don't mind it auto drafting for me I'll edit my rankings.

[Doug5984]

I was able to join, as of right now I could make the draft next Saturday night, but really any night would work for me.

[molson]

I can't do Monday night or Tuesday, so I'll hold off on joining until you set a draft date

[sterlingice]

Oh well, that was fun :sigh:

If I hear something back from Yahoo, it will probably be something about how "oops, we screwed up" but it's not as if there's anything that can be done now.

Tune in next week, same bat time, same bat channel. I think I'm off to go play some Guitar Hero.

SI

[sterlingice]

I can't do Monday night or Tuesday, so I'll hold off on joining until you set a draft date

The draft will be sometime between 7 and 8 CT next Saturday night. It's currently set for 7:30 but I'm going to try and set it back to 7:15 to avoid some of the 7:30 traffic.

SI

[molson]

We'll get the "sorry for the inconvenience" crap from Yahoo.

They should turn every draft that got gutted into a free Yahoo Plus league, with the live stats, etc.

[molson]

According to one banner, The Yahoo Fantasy Football '07 slogan appears to be "We don't drop the ball".

[sterlingice]

Hello rocket34,

Unfortunately, due to server problems, your draft was not able to be run as scheduled.
Since we know how important participating in a live draft can be, and how many users can only do that on a specific day at a specific time, we felt it important to try and accommodate those preferences. So, rather than having your league Autopicked, we left it undrafted and set up a new live draft for Sep 1 17:30.


If you are in a Public League and can not participate at this new time, you can simply remove yourself from the league and join a new one that is holding its draft at a more convenient time.


If you are in an Custom League, your League Commissioner can change the draft time via the Commissioner Tools accessible from your League Overview page.


We have fixed the issues that caused the problems and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused you.


Thanks and good luck in the upcoming season.
--Fantasy Football Commissioner
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1

[sterlingice]

So, they rescheduled the old league for Sept 1 at 17:30 (PT), I backed it up to 7:15 CT. So, we'll just stick with the original league for now

SI

[molson]

Hopefully anyone who doesn't want to participate anymore with the draft being scheduled labor day weekend will manually take their team out of the old league.

That's the only concern I have about keeping the old league - we might have a bunch of dead teams who won't check this thread again.

[sterlingice]

That's a good point. Roll call for teams still in the league- everyone post if they plan on still being in with their team name.

Houston Hippos are, of course, still in.
I also talked with the Vegas Golden Aces and he's able to draft next week.

SI

[molson]

Still in. (Enchanted Goats)

[k0ruptr]

Ill still play just gotta hope for a good auto pick draft :)

[sterlingice]

Remember to adjust for the 2 QB and better WR points part of it

SI

[k0ruptr]

yea definetly, it will be interesting to see how my team turns out. either way im down to stick it out as i really like your set up.

[Doug5984]

Louisiana Cyclones still in

[larrymcg421]

Dunwoody Dolphins are still in.

[TazFTW]

Still in.

[bosshogg23]

Philly Chumps are still in.

[sterlingice]

Gold and Masked are the only two who haven't checked in at this point. I figure they have until Tuesday-ish and then we'll open it up to new people but I'll PM them before then so they have a good shot.

SI

[sterlingice]

Also, I dissolved the new league I created last night so hopefully this one works next week. Otherwise, I'm really tempted to say we should just have a live draft in a chat like IRC or AIM at the time and get lists for anyone who can't be there emailed to me or a neutral 3rd party in advance.

SI

[sterlingice]

And the response to my inquiry last night:

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Sports.

I appreciate your inquiry with regards to your live draft issues.

Unfortunately, due to server problems, it is possible that your draft
was not able to be run as scheduled.

Since we know how important participating in a live draft can be, and
how many users can only do that on a specific day at a specific time, we
felt it important to try and accommodate those preferences. So, rather
than having your league auto-picked, we left it undrafted and set up a
new live draft for exactly one week from the time of your original
draft.

If you are in a Public League and can not participate at this new time,
you can simply remove yourself from the league and join a new one that
is holding its draft at a more convenient time.

If you are in a Custom League, your League Commissioner can change the
draft time via the Commissioner Tools accessible via your League
Overview page.

We have fixed the issues that caused these errors and sincerely
apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused you.

Please feel free to email me again with any further comments or
questions.

Thanks, and good luck in the upcoming season.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Sports.

Regards,

Morris

Yahoo! Customer Care

[Masked]

I'm still in

[molson]

Also, I dissolved the new league I created last night so hopefully this one works next week. Otherwise, I'm really tempted to say we should just have a live draft in a chat like IRC or AIM at the time and get lists for anyone who can't be there emailed to me or a neutral 3rd party in advance.

SI

It wouldn't hurt to have a backup plan - I've read some things online that this may have been an issue for Yahoo for a week now.

Either via chat or the message board, or some other website that handles drafts only, on-demand - there's probably some free fantasy software somewhere that could help you manage it easily.

[sterlingice]

Frankly, I'd probably just dig up my old fantasy spreadsheet that I used for some baseball drafts and find a chat medium that everyone can use. Hell, I have Trillian so I could have everyone on different chat mediums and relay the picks but that would take some doing.

SI

[TazFTW]

Have another Yahoo draft in 20 minutes and have been able to get into the draft room (links on the league and team page). So it is working



for now...

[sterlingice]

gold101 hasn't answered at all and has been PM'd and mentioned in this thread so we're going to need another team.

So, first team who wants to join is in as there is 1 open spot.

Reminder: draft is tomorrow night @ 7:15 CT, either be there or make your list before then and remember the league settings.

SI

[Doug5984]

really looking forward to this- just did another league with a bunch of friends around here, and it was the same ole take all the RBs first, then worry about everything else (which can be fun for some, but I like a much more mixed and deeper scoring system)

[molson]

Bump - need one more!

[Racer]

I responded in another thread about this, but I'd like to join.

[molson]

I responded in another thread about this, but I'd like to join.

It's first come/first served for the last spot (unless you pissed off sterlingice in the past or something), so go ahead and sign up-

League ID#: 210962
League Name: FOFC Hardcore
Password: dola
Custom League URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962

[Racer]

Alright, I'm in as the Little Macs.

[sterlingice]

Welcome aboard :)

SI

[sterlingice]

Draft in a little over an hour

SI

[larrymcg421]

Shrug. I'll have to stick with my autopicks since I can't get in for some reason.

[molson]

Shrug. I'll have to stick with my autopicks since I can't get in for some reason.

Are you sure? I was just able to get in through the link on my team page.

Last time, I had to download java, which was a surprise (I guess because I had updated firefox recently). Maybe that's your issue

[molson]

#10 spot. Damn it.

[sterlingice]

Woo! Draft client is up!

SI

[sterlingice]

About 10 minutes to go. Come on in :)`

SI

[k0ruptr]

k I made it a lil late but I'm here

[TazFTW]

Despite having no real #1 RB, I am really liking my team.

QB Peyton Manning
QB Drew Brees
QB Joey Harrington
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
RB Marion Barber III
RB Fred Taylor
RB Chester Taylor
WR Roy Williams
WR Andre Johnson
WR Vincent Jackson
WR Anthony Gonzalez
WR Brandon Marshall
TE Tony Gonzalez
TE Tony Scheffler
K David Akers
K Rian Lindell
K Mike Nugent
DEF San Diego
DEF Oakland

[bosshogg23]

Despite having no real #1 RB, I am really liking my team.

QB Peyton Manning
QB Drew Brees
QB Joey Harrington
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
RB Marion Barber III
RB Fred Taylor
RB Chester Taylor
WR Roy Williams
WR Andre Johnson
WR Vincent Jackson
WR Anthony Gonzalez
WR Brandon Marshall
TE Tony Gonzalez
TE Tony Scheffler
K David Akers
K Rian Lindell
K Mike Nugent
DEF San Diego
DEF Oakland

Mostly im hating your team.

Its really really good.

Still hating.

[sterlingice]

I like my team a lot, too. I couldn't believe Palmer ended up at 2.9.

QB: Palmer, Brady, (Pennington)
RB: Jackson, James, JJones (flex), (Jordan), (Turner)
WR: RBrown, Chambers, Holmes, (Stallworth), (Jennings)
TE: Gates, Clark
DE: Chicago, Buffalo
PK: Wilkins, Nedney

No really strong WRs but some depth. A bit worried about backup QB, RB but that's how things go sometimes.

SI

[Racer]

I like my team although I wish I was a bit stronger at quarterback.

QB Eli Manning
QB Jay Cutler
QB Steve McNair
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Reggie Bush
RB Ahman Green
RB Ladell Betts
WR Terrell Owens
WR Javon Walker
WR Plaxico Burress
WR Mark Clayton
WR Jerry Porter
TE Kellen Winslow
TE Owen Daniels
K Matt Stover
K Josh Scobee
DEF Jacksonville
DEF Green Bay
DEF Indianapolis

[sterlingice]

I actually like your 3 QBs, Racer. It's RB I'm leary of. Strong WR/TE, tho.

Taz's team is really nice, again lacking a little RB depth. Other than that, scary good.

SI

[bosshogg23]

When I win the league this year, its going to be more special. Underdog and all.

I would like to thank everyone for their lack of support in advance ;)

[Racer]

I actually like your 3 QBs, Racer. It's RB I'm leary of. Strong WR/TE, tho.

Taz's team is really nice, again lacking a little RB depth. Other than that, scary good.

SI

I like my RBs but only because receptions are worth .5 points each. By the way, I think your team is really tough. You have a lot of sleepers at wide receiver and I think you'll end up doing pretty well there. I also agree that the Tazmaniacs are looking very good.

[sterlingice]

I like Westbrook quite a bit when healthy, Bush is who I'm a bit leary of this season.

SI

[molson]

QB: Romo, Rivers, Leinart
RB: Maroney, T. Jones, McAllister, Morency, B. Jackson
WR: S. Smith, D. Jackson, Hackett, Curtis, Berrian
TE: Watson, Shockey
D: Vikings, Cardinals
K: Longwell, Bironas

I'm pretty happy with that team coming out of the 10 draft spot. Not spectacular, but balance and some depth. After Steve Smith, each of those 4 WRs has a chance to have a huge year if things go right - if one actually does, I'll be very happy. Very good TE combo considering we have to start 2. I'm shaky at RB, but if Maroney can be a true #1 fantasy back, I can probably find a good matchup every week between Deuce, Jones, and the Green Bay duo.

[bosshogg23]

Bush is who I'm a bit leary of this season.

SI

He rushed for 500 less yards than McAllister and had 2 less TD's total.

It seems to me that McAllister is underrated and Bush overrated.

[bosshogg23]

QB: Romo, Rivers, Leinart
RB: Maroney, T. Jones, McAllister, Morency, B. Jackson
WR: S. Smith, D. Jackson, Hackett, Curtis, Berrian
TE: Watson, Shockey
D: Vikings, Cardinals
K: Longwell, Bironas

I'm pretty happy with that team coming out of the 10 draft spot. Not spectacular, but balance and some depth. After Steve Smith, each of those 4 WRs has a chance to have a huge year if things go right - if one actually does, I'll be very happy. Very good TE combo considering we have to start 2. I'm shaky at RB, but if Maroney can be a true #1 fantasy back, I can probably find a good matchup every week between Deuce, Jones, and the Green Bay duo.

QB's have A LOT of potential, RB's as well if they stay healthy and get their carries. 3rd WR Starter seems like a week to week kinda process if Curtis shows he can produce. I love Shockey & Watson IF both are healthy. I shudder at your D's. Your K's are trouble IMO as well. Two really bad offenses limits your XP potential as a K. Hopefully increases FG Attempts.

I think several teams are in the same position, we have a chance to win IF.....you are one of them.

[molson]

Taz has to be the favorite.

The "weak" part of his team, RB, has two TD machines.

[bosshogg23]

Taz has to be the favorite.

The "weak" part of his team, RB, has two TD machines.

/pm molson lets cheat and trade lots of players for crap

[bosshogg23]

/pm molson lets cheat and trade lots of players for crap

oh crap this doesn't work like IRC ;)

[bosshogg23]

Double dola. I bet odd's are that Taz wins are only SLIGHTLY higher than any other team. Fantasy playoffs are so random its ridiculous.

[Doug5984]

I'm sort of happy with my team, some real talent at RB & WR- but my QBs have a knack for throwing up picks.

QB John Kitna
QB Alex Smith
QB Jeff Garcia (backup)
QB David Gerrard (backup)
RB Joe Addai
RB Travis Henry
RB Marshawn Lynch (backup / flex player)
WR Reggie Wayne
WR TJ Houshmandzadah
WR Jerricho Cotchery
WR Drew Bennett (bench)
WR Derick Mason (bench)
TE LJ Smith
TE Eric Johnson
TE Greg Olsen (bench)
K Jason Elam
K Stephen Gotkowski
D New England
D Denver

The one bad thing is, almost everyone on my team has a bye week in week 6- but at least I'll be able to call that game a loss, and have everyone for all the other games.

[TazFTW]

Drew Brees, you suck. :mad:

[k0ruptr]

oh thats Taz, the favorite of the league talking. nice. lol

[Doug5984]

Since this is my first time around in this league, I'm not really sure what it takes to win, points wise, but I am very happy with the 51.53 points out of 3 players.

[sterlingice]

Well, the formula keeps getting tweaked each season, too. So I couldn't tell you what it takes to win either.

SI

[TazFTW]

Andre Johnson, you rock. :cool:

[k0ruptr]

I dont wanna talk about having Randy Moss sitting on the bench. Nuff said.

[TazFTW]

Ugh, I am going to need a big game from Marion Barber to hold onto the lead.

[larrymcg421]

Wow, what a close matchup between me and Taz. I've got Willis McGahee and Baltimore defense left and Taz has Marion Barber.

[k0ruptr]

I have a slight chance of winning, I have Chad Johnson and Dallas left, they need to score huge tho...

[sterlingice]

My game is still up for grabs with the score fairly close while I have 4 left and Brian has 6 left.

SI

[molson]

My only bright spot this week was the Vikings D with 29 points (6 sacks, 2 Ints, 2 TDs, 3 pts allowed)

I might have a respectable total score in Romo and Leinart have good games, but it won't be enough to catch the Cyclones.

[TazFTW]

Well, Barber gave me some breathing room but McGahee vs the Bengals D and a Baltimore D that can score don't give me much confidence in holding onto that lead.


I might have a respectable total score in Romo and Leinart have good games, but it won't be enough to catch the Cyclones

Romo looking good...

[k0ruptr]

Dallas D gives me negative points .

[Doug5984]

My only bright spot this week was the Vikings D with 29 points (6 sacks, 2 Ints, 2 TDs, 3 pts allowed)

I might have a respectable total score in Romo and Leinart have good games, but it won't be enough to catch the Cyclones.


With that great game by Romo, you could catch me w/ Leinart and Jackson- if they outscore Alex Smith & Houshmazilly by 20 points (it could happen)

[TazFTW]

Drew Brees, you suck. :mad:

I'll see you in hell, Drew Brees.


Of course since I'm facing Carson Palmer this week... It don't look good.

Derek Anderson looking good as free agent.

[k0ruptr]

guess what! I have cinci's Defense, I ROCK! hahhaha

[k0ruptr]

dola I wonder what the fantasy record is for most negative points by a defense. I think I will own it.

[molson]

I'm in quite a barn-burner with the Dunwoody Dolphins - It's 141.66-141.55.

Unfortunately for me, all I have left is Kevin Curtis v. his Donovan McNabb.

[TazFTW]

Since I can't curse out Drew Brees today...

Peyton Manning, you suck! :mad:

[TazFTW]

Since I can't curse out Drew Brees today...


NOW I can curse out Drew Brees. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:sigh: I'm the Norv Turner of fantasy football. If the Saints didn't have a bye next week I would still start Joey Harrington over Brees.

[k0ruptr]

I think i won my game. should be 2-1 now

[sterlingice]

I had a nice, balanced attack with Brady, Jordan, and Gates leading the way and dodged the Kevin Curtis bullet sitting on the Goats bench. For the crazy stats that Brady has put up, he's actually only 5th in the league in scoring behind Moss, Westbrook, Romo, and Chad Johnson. The thing is I have 2 of the next three guys, too, in Palmer and Jordan.

SI

[TazFTW]

Holy... I finally won! Joey Harrington for the win! Of course my opponent having three starters that did not play due to injuries might have also helped.

[k0ruptr]

this is turning into quite a league, it looks like my team is in for another battle, I had 3 guys on bye weeks too. Although it looks like I'm in for a possible loss, but should be close

Playing SI btw

[TazFTW]

Good performances from Tony Gonzalez, Maurice Jones-Drew, and Chris Cooley. So how much will Drew Brees screw me over now?

[molson]

I might only win one game all year, but it just happened to be the league's highest weekly point total for the season so far. (194 points last week)

[k0ruptr]

my close loss has probably turned into not so close after going against tom brady.

I had AP though, so who knows.

[sterlingice]

this is turning into quite a league, it looks like my team is in for another battle, I had 3 guys on bye weeks too. Although it looks like I'm in for a possible loss, but should be close

Playing SI btw

I couldn't believe you didn't pick up a couple of bye week replacements, frankly. Maybe not for Heath Miller but maybe for D and K.

SI

[k0ruptr]

I was thinking about it but decided against it. didnt really want to drop anyone.

[sterlingice]

Looks like it paid off. Unless there's some flukish tackle point or something, You'll have won by fractions of a point. The real kicker is that if I *hadn't* started the Bears, I'd have won as they were worth negative :)

SI

[k0ruptr]

wow, what a match... Hasselbeck pretty much saved my ass. And that sucks about the Bears D.

[sterlingice]

TazFTW and bosshogg23- I keep forgetting to mention this but I get a kick about of you two voting for winners every week. I keep forgetting to do that myself :)


SI

[sterlingice]

Also, I'm glad it looks like everyone is active still except maybe larrymcg421. molson is still trying his damndest to win even tho it may not look like it with starting Cleo Lemon this week ;) And can someone explain to me how the Autodraft Dookies are in 5th, after, well, autodrafting?!?

SI

[bosshogg23]

TazFTW and bosshogg23- I keep forgetting to mention this but I get a kick about of you two voting for winners every week. I keep forgetting to do that myself :)


SI

Heh always have fun doing that. According to my votes I should have gone 85-0 the past 5 years. ;)

[sterlingice]

The league has really tightened up with the top 4 teams at 6-3 and then two more at 5-4.

molson, you seem to have some bye week guys in there that you might want to change before tomorrow.

Also, I remembered to vote this week :)

SI

[sterlingice]

Actually, it looks like another lineup or two is invalid :(

SI

[molson]

Actually, it looks like another lineup or two is invalid :(

SI

Which means I might actually get a win. (My opponent, who's actually in playoff contention, starts 4 players with byes).

Then again, looking at my RB situation, maybe not.

And my lineup is no longer "invalid". Unless invalid means awful.

[k0ruptr]

turning into a helluva race for first.

[sterlingice]

I think we've almost got figured out who is going to the playoffs

SI

[TazFTW]

Highest scoring team in the league and I couldn't get a winning record.

[Masked]

It didn't matter - but it annoys me you can't pick up guys on Monday who are playing that night and put them into your line-up. I couldn't switch Harrington for Redman (and that sentence sums up how miserable this season has been).

[sterlingice]

Taz: you had ridiculously bad luck this season. A friend of mine is in a similar boat in another league. 2nd highest scorer, non winning record due to close losses and blowout wins.

Masked: Sorry, that's how Yahoo is set up. I'm not sure there's any way to change that. Actually, what I'd kindof like is something similar to the CBS league where every week it's like players are on waivers so you have to get in line to pick up WW fodder rather than just blitzing for new players.

SI

[sterlingice]

<table id="playofftable" class="gametable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="semi">Semifinal(1) Little Macs (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/9)(4) Louisiana Cyclones! (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/8)View Matchup (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/matchup?mid1=9&mid2=8&week=15)
Semifinal(2) Hawaii Haka (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/7)(3) Houston Hippopotami (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/1)View Matchup (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/matchup?mid1=7&mid2=1&week=15)
</td> <td class="final"> Final
</td> <td class="champ"> League Champion
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td>3rd Place Game
</td> <td>3rd Place Winner
</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table id="playofftable" class="gametable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="semi">Semifinal(5) Tazmaniacs (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/3)(8) Eleven Masked Men (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/5)View Matchup (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/matchup?mid1=3&mid2=5&week=15)
Semifinal(6) Philly Chumps (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/6)(7) Autodraft Dookies (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/2)View Matchup (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/matchup?mid1=6&mid2=2&week=15)
</td> <td class="final"> 5th Place Game
</td> <td class="champ"> 5th Place Winner
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td>7th Place Game
</td> <td>7th Place Winner
</td></tr></tbody></table>


<table class="gametable" id="standingstable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="first rank">*1.</td> <td class="team">Little Macs (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/9)</td> <td>10-4-0</td> <td>.714</td> <td>2131.11</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>1</td> <td class="last">12</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">*2.</td> <td class="team">Hawaii Haka (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/7)</td> <td>10-4-0</td> <td>.714</td> <td>2022.22</td> <td>W-2</td> <td>7</td> <td class="last">15</td> </tr> <tr class="selected"> <td class="first rank">*3.</td> <td class="team">Houston Hippopotami (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/1)</td> <td>10-4-0</td> <td>.714</td> <td>2014.70</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>6</td> <td class="last">25</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">*4.</td> <td class="team">Louisiana Cyclones! (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/8)</td> <td>8-6-0</td> <td>.571</td> <td>1924.58</td> <td>L-3</td> <td>2</td> <td class="last">6</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">5.</td> <td class="team">Tazmaniacs (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/3)</td> <td>7-7-0</td> <td>.500</td> <td>2185.04</td> <td>W-3</td> <td>4</td> <td class="last">20</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">6.</td> <td class="team">Philly Chumps (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/6)</td> <td>7-7-0</td> <td>.500</td> <td>2029.25</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>5</td> <td class="last">20</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">7.</td> <td class="team">Autodraft Dookies (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/2)</td> <td>6-8-0</td> <td>.429</td> <td>1870.13</td> <td>W-1</td> <td>8</td> <td class="last">16</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">8.</td> <td class="team">Eleven Masked Men (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/5)</td> <td>5-9-0</td> <td>.357</td> <td>1676.05</td> <td>L-2</td> <td>10</td> <td class="last">24</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">9.</td> <td class="team">Dunwoody Dolphins (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/10)</td> <td>4-10-0</td> <td>.286</td> <td>1552.32</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>3</td> <td class="last">2</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="first rank">10.</td> <td class="team">Enchanted Goats (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/210962/4)</td> <td>3-11-0</td> <td>.214</td> <td>1854.63</td> <td>L-1</td> <td>9</td> <td class="last">50</td></tr></tbody></table>

Standings heading into the playoffs

SI

[sterlingice]

Looks like Doug's Louisiana Cyclones are going to win it all, 135-131 over k0ruptr's Hawaii Haka.

The Hippos took 3rd and there are still too many players left in the consolation game to declare a winner.

SI

[TazFTW]

Will there be a 2008 version of this league?

[TazFTW]

dola

Die Drew Brees Die :rant:

[sterlingice]

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to do a league this year. I'm going to be moving the weekend before the season starts and we're kindof busy with the packing and the moving at the moment

Wow. This will be the first year I don't do a real fantasy football team (I'm doing the alma mater league but that's not a drafting league or anything) in about 15 years :(

If someone else wants to pick up the mantle and run with it for a year- I'd be all for that. I just won't be able to participate, much less run one

SI

[k0ruptr]

Hey, how bout one of these this year after a year off?!

[sterlingice]

I think it's a capital idea! I just got back from vacation and am not moving this year so it's definitely time to figure this out.

SI

[k0ruptr]

YAY YAY YAY. you've made my day SI. hope you had a good vacay, was wondering where you been.

[sterlingice]

Give me a weekend and I'll try to get this all straightened out.

It will be similar to the FOFC fantasy baseball league. Preference will go to members who were in the league in 2007 (and not inactive). Then there will be a waiting list for others for the empty slots that invariably come up.

Also, due to roster scarcity, we have a hard limit of 10 players max.

SI

[molson]

I love this league - it's really a great setup.

I'd be interested in it again.

[Masked]

I'm glad to see this coming back.

[sterlingice]

I haven't forgotten about this- I have created a league in Yahoo but I'm still experimenting with the scoring system (spent about 2 hours last night trying to tweak things). I'm traveling tomorrow but hopefully I can get a post up before I leave. If not, sometime this weekend or, at the very least, early next week.

SI

[sterlingice]

We're back!

2009 FOFC Alternate Rules Football; Signup Underway! - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=73999)

SI