Werewolf LIII -- Boo! (GAME OVER!)

[path12]

As the cast members of "Dude, This Is A Scary House", you are used to things that go bump in the night. But this particular house, Path Mansion, has the potential to make those other places look like kiddy parks. Can you survive?

Signup list:

1. Barkeep49
2. st.cronin
3. Jonathan Ezarik
4. DaddyTorgo -- Cast Member, lynched day 1
5. SnDvls
6. RendeR -- Cast Member, lynched day 2
7. Telle -- Dark Follower, killed night 2
8. Chief Rum -- Dark Spirit, lynched day 3
9. Alan T
10. Passacaglia
11. Lathum -- Cameraman, killed night 1
12. ntndeacon -- Empath, killed night 3

[path12]

Current rules:

Evil Roles:

Dark Spirits (wolves) -- you are out to kill these invaders. You have unlimited PM rights with your fellow dark spirits.

Dark Follower -- although you are a cast member, you secretly sympathize with the Dark Spirits and hope to prove yourself worthy of joining them. You may search one player each night in hopes of finding the Empath. You count as a cast member for parity purposes.

Good Roles:

Empath: You have extra intuition to evil. You can search one player each night in order to detect evil within them.

Cameraman: You are always at the ready to catch any action. You may protect one player each night. If they are attacked, you will prevent the attack. There is a 50% chance you are killed. There is a 50% chance you will identify the attacker. You may not protect the same player two nights in a row.

New Guy: You are a regular cast member, but your lack of experience means that you may be scanned as evil by the Empath. This role will not be known by the holder, who will think themselves a regular Cast Member.

Host: As the focus of the show, you are brave and fearless. If the game comes down to you and a Dark Spirit, you will kill the Dark Spirit.

Cast Members: You have no special abilities.

We will run this on the newly popular 24 hour schedule, with deadlines at 10PM Eastern/7PM Pacific.

[Barkeep49]

I'm in and I really hope we run it this time. I think it's an intriguing rules set and as I said in "Games I'd like to See", I've really been wanting a multi-faction game for a while now.

[st.cronin]

In

[Lathum]

any word on start date and deadline times?

[path12]

any word on start date and deadline times?

I'm planning deadlines to be 9PM Eastern, and night actions due by 9AM the following morning. My hope would be that we could start by end week if we fill.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

In.

[DaddyTorgo]

in

[SnDvls]

in

[RendeR]

Sign Telle and I up please!

[hoopsguy]

I would like to play, but I'm not going to be available from 8/30 - 9/4. So unless we are starting soon and playing through the weekend then I'm probably going to have to sit another one out. Sigh.

[DaddyTorgo]

I would like to play, but I'm not going to be available from 8/30 - 9/4. So unless we are starting soon and playing through the weekend then I'm probably going to have to sit another one out. Sigh.

dammit hoops!! :D

[Lathum]

I think I am out also.

[st.cronin]

I've got a bad feeling about this.

[Crim]

Oh, I know. I'm just laying groundwork to go after you next game. ;)

Maybe it's best i sit this one out...


;)

Actually I have to look into my schedule. Do we have an estimate on when this'll start? Haven't read all 14 posts yet. :D

[Schmidty]

Darn. Another complicated game. :(

I'm not saying the game doesn't look fun, I just wish there were more "classic" werewolf games on occasion.

[Chief Rum]

Inyo.

[Tyrith]

I'm thinking about it. I'll make up my mind tomorrow, probably.

[Barkeep49]

Darn. Another complicated game. :(

I'm not saying the game doesn't look fun, I just wish there were more "classic" werewolf games on occasion.
Umm Schmdity the previous two games to Clue were basically classic WW games and the one before that wasn't too far from the classic formula itself.

[path12]

Actually I have to look into my schedule. Do we have an estimate on when this'll start? Haven't read all 14 posts yet. :D

Heh. We can start once we fill. We'll need at least 17 for this ruleset. With the participation of the last few games, I'm optimistic that we can start by end week.

Darn. Another complicated game. :(

I'm not saying the game doesn't look fun, I just wish there were more "classic" werewolf games on occasion.

Don't be fooled by the lengthy rules. I really think this is not a very complicated game in practice. It is basically two equal teams with some neutral roles to add some flavor. I hope it's a game that will be a lot of fun to play since everyone will be able to do something.

I'm thinking about it. I'll make up my mind tomorrow, probably.

I hope you play. It's been awhile.

[Alan T]

I'll play

[Schmidty]

Umm Schmdity the previous two games to Clue were basically classic WW games and the one before that wasn't too far from the classic formula itself.

Please let me piss and moan in peace.

[Passacaglia]

in

[Barkeep49]

Please let me piss and moan in peace.
Sorry bout that.

[RendeR]

Schmidty's gotta have some entertainment in his life, if he can't piss and moan about something he's just miserable ;)

[Lathum]

sign me up

although if the game goes into the end of next week I'll probably be pretty quiet.

[Crim]

Lathum seems kinda quiet, don't you guys think?

[hoopsguy]

Lathum has been quiet, but what about Swaggs? Now that is a guy who I'm suspicious of right now.

Never mind that
a.) I'm not playing this game if it starts this week
b.) Swaggs isn't signed up

He is too quiet, I tell you!

[ntndeacon]

Sign me up, though have no computer in my office. (there is a bucket under a pipe instead...so comp was removed to prevent water damage to it.)

[Tyrith]

I can't do this one, sadly, family stuff has come up beginning of next week then school starts, miss next Tuesday for major orientation, etc etc. But probably sometime soon.

[path12]

OK, this is the third time I've tried this ruleset and for whatever reason it just doesn't seem to be one that catches on. I'm going to try and put an alternate game ruleset together tonight and change this to a simpler theme.

Feel free to still sign up if you want to. The new ruleset will not have a set number.

[Lathum]

Maybe a thread in the GD would help?

[path12]

If we're only halfway in three days, I don't think a GD thread is going to help. Games have been filling fast lately.

[st.cronin]

OK, this is the third time I've tried this ruleset and for whatever reason it just doesn't seem to be one that catches on. I'm going to try and put an alternate game ruleset together tonight and change this to a simpler theme.

Feel free to still sign up if you want to. The new ruleset will not have a set number.

I think its just been poor timing, rather than the ruleset.

[Alan T]

I agree with Cronin. Alot of people are going out of town for Labor day weekend and the last holiday weekend before summer is over.

I wasn't going to play because I'll be busy with my girls, but felt bad that the game wasn't filling up, so joined up.

[hoopsguy]

I believe that this ruleset is cursed. However, if it does end up running shortly after Labor Day then I would like to try and help break the curse by signing up.

[Barkeep49]

I think its just been poor timing, rather than the ruleset.
I agree with this and Alan T.

[SnDvls]

so are we looking at a Monday start then??

[Crim]

I'm afraid of the ruleset. However, I'd like to echo cronin and say that it seems like the timing might just be bad.

On the other hand, Passacaglia's post in Off Topic is what got my in the last game. Wish I could join up. If this is delayed enough, I will, but more likely I'll try to catch the next game.

[path12]

OK, I've changed the ruleset and we'll lock in at the signups so far.

Now the question is when to start? I'd love to get in a quick day 1 today so you at least have something to mull over the longer weekend schedule.

But if you'd rather start Monday, that's cool also. Open for discussion.

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE ST.CRONIN

he wasn't listed on the same PM as me so he must be a wolf.

VOTE START TODAY...DAY ONE IS LARGELY A CRAPSHOOT ANYWAYS

[Telle]

Are roles fully revealed upon death? (specifically the Dark Follower). And does the Empath see the Dark Follower as good or bad?

And I'd rather start Monday. I'm not going to have much time today after about 2pm.

[st.cronin]

I am ok starting today, but I won't be around this afternoon.

[Alan T]

Im ok starting whenever, but I wont be around later afternoon/early evening and my weekend schedule is pretty spotty. I should make it around enough to pop in at least to accuse Cronin of something or another.

[SnDvls]

VOTE Start Game On Monday

[path12]

Are roles fully revealed upon death? (specifically the Dark Follower). And does the Empath see the Dark Follower as good or bad?

And I'd rather start Monday. I'm not going to have much time today after about 2pm.

The Dark Follower will scan as evil. Roles will be revealed upon death.

[path12]

Well, I'm tempted then to just open signups through Sunday morning, and then send out roles that afternoon for a Monday start.

[Passacaglia]

I'm leaving for the weekend, in a couple of hours, so Monday would be best for me.

[path12]

OK, roles will go out Sunday.

[RendeR]

Either day to start is fine with me. I'l be on and off all weekend.

[Lathum]

I'm ok with either but I guess it's monday

[ntndeacon]

6 of one and 8 of the other. either date is ok with me.

[Barkeep49]

I'd love to get started.

[path12]

Why not. I'll send roles out today but Day 1 deadline will be Monday at 10PM Eastern. Please do not check in until after I give the start signal.

[path12]

Role descriptions will go out as follows:

You are a cast member. Go out there and conquer your fears!

You are a Dark Spirit. Your fellow Dark Spirit(s) is/are ------- and you may
them freely. You are able to make one kill per night. If you attack a guarded target the kill is blocked and you have a 50% chance to kill the cameraman. There is also a 50% chance you will be spotted by the cameraman. You must specify which spirit is attempting the kill.

You are a Dark Follower. You have joined the cast in order to better understand the demons and Dark Spirits you secretly admire. Although you count as a cast member for parity purposes, you win with the Dark Spirits. You do not know who they are and have no PM rights. But you may scan one player each night in order to find the Empath.

You are the Empath. You have an advanced ability to detect darkness. Each night you may scan one other person to discover their role.

You are the Cameraman. You have the ability to guard one person each night. If they are attacked the attack will fail, but there will be a 50% chance you are killed. If you survive, there is a 50% chance you will be able to identify the attacker.

You are the Host. As such, you are brave and fearless. If the game comes down to you and a Dark Spirit, you will kill the Spirit and win the game for the cast.

[st.cronin]

cast member checking in

[path12]

All roles have now been sent. If you did not receive a PM let me know. Day 1 is underway.

A couple housekeeping rules: Conditional orders are allowed. All night actions must be PM'd to me before lynch deadline. Nightfall votes will be accepted and cannot be changed. 75% of players must vote nightfall for it to take effect.

Good luck!

[DaddyTorgo]

PM received

[RendeR]

PM received, Frightened cast member here *waves pathetically from behind some equipment*

[Alan T]

Got my pm, checking in. I dont know if I will be here much until monday though.

[SnDvls]

got my role...cast member checking in

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Another cast member here. I ain't afraid of no ghosts (or whatever the dark spirits are).

[Chief Rum]

<Insert standard "cast member here" line here>

Not much else to say at this point. Other than different names, seems to be a basic style WW game.

The host is somewhat different, but I think I have seen variations of that role before.

[Chief Rum]

<Insert standard "cast member here" line here>

Not much else to say at this point. Other than different names, seems to be a basic style WW game.

The host is somewhat different, but I think I have seen variations of that role before.

lol...okay, apparently you can't use the "greater than" and "less than" symbols because it just erases whatever is in between them.

Basically, I posted "Insert standard 'cast member here' line here" in between those in the quoted post and they didn't show. lol...and I can't edit. :p

[Telle]

Just a vanilla cast member. And I won't be around much today at all.

[Barkeep49]

Plain old cast member checking in.

[ntndeacon]

Got my PM too. looks like a plain ole cast member for me as well.

[Lathum]

cast member here

[Barkeep49]

What a relief. It looks like we're all cast members here and so we have nothing to worry about. Phew. Thanks for the game path!

[st.cronin]

Can we vote "no lynch"?

[st.cronin]

Vote No Lynch if possible

otherwise,

Vote DaddyTorgo for the simple reason that he's always after me.

[st.cronin]

dola, I may be around later tonight but otherwise I am very busy between now and deadline

[Lathum]

Can we vote "no lynch"?

why would you want to?

[path12]

"No Lynch" is not allowed in this game.

Also, just to reiterate, this game is on the 24 hour schedule, which means there is no night phase. All night actions must be PM'd to me before deadline. You may use conditional night orders.

[Chief Rum]

So is it just because it's the weekend it's so quiet?

Anyway, as usual on Monday, I won't be around at all while at work, and then I draft for the WW fantasy league before leaving for the second job. I'll try to sneak in a vote before deadline in a lull between picks at the draft.

[st.cronin]

why would you want to?

Because I don't want to lynch a villager. As it is its a moot point, but if you like I can rehash the arguments from games past.

[Passacaglia]

Cast member checking in. Thanks for holding up the game until today.

[Lathum]

Because I don't want to lynch a villager. As it is its a moot point, but if you like I can rehash the arguments from games past.

Right but in the past there have been more roles and night actions that lend creadence to a no lynch. This seems like a pretty straight forward game so why not lynch?

[Telle]

Right but in the past there have been more roles and night actions that lend creadence to a no lynch. This seems like a pretty straight forward game so why not lynch?

Well it sounded like he might not get back here before deadline. So it was either vote no lynch or pick somebody completely at random before the game is really even going.

[Lathum]

Well it sounded like he might not get back here before deadline. So it was either vote no lynch or pick somebody completely at random before the game is really even going.

and thats different then any other day one because?

[Telle]

Well there's usually at least some discussion during day one. I don't think I'd personally be comfortable just throwing out a random name and then disappearing for the rest of the day.

[Lathum]

VOTR ST.CRONIN

someone has to get it started. I think his no lynch suggestion is reason enough for me

[Passacaglia]

VOTE LATHUM

I don't have a problem with a no lynch vote.

[Lathum]

VOTE LATHUM

I don't have a problem with a no lynch vote.

why not, why give the wolves a free night kill and have us start at square one tomorrow?

[Telle]

why not, why give the wolves a free night kill and have us start at square one tomorrow?

This has been debated time and again. Some people like "no lynch" voting on day one and some people don't. However I don't think it's ever been shown to be indicative of wolfish behavior.

VOTE LATHUM

[path12]

Current vote total:

Lathum 2 -- Passacaglia(83), Telle(85)
DaddyTorgo 1 -- st.cronin(71)
st.cronin 1 -- Lathum(82)

Not voted yet: Barkeep49, Jonathan Ezarik, DaddyTorgo, SnDvls, RendeR, Chief Rum, Alan T, ntndeacon

[Lathum]

A no lynch vote only makes sense when there are a number of night actions, items, or roles where it gives us an advantage to have the extra time to " put the pieces together."

In a normal straightforward game the smart move is to lynch day one. Do you really expect anyone who has information to come forward tomorrow with it? That would be suicide, so if we no lynch today we are right back in the same place tomorrow, minus one villager.

Someone please explain to me how our lynch vote tomorrow will be any more educated tomorrow then it will be today?

[path12]

so if we no lynch today we are right back in the same place tomorrow, minus one villager.


Reminder: There is no "No Lynch" in this game.

[Lathum]

mmm, ok then.

well I still stand by my point that it was a fishy question to ask in the first place

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE RENDER

day 1. random vote. the usual nonsense. vote subject to change, although maybe doubtful till right before deadline, the WWFFL (werewolf fantasy football league) draft is tonight

[Lathum]

UNVOTE ST>CRONIN
VOTE RENDER

[SnDvls]

Vote Alan T

day one vote

[RendeR]

VOTE RENDER

day 1. random vote. the usual nonsense. vote subject to change, although maybe doubtful till right before deadline, the WWFFL (werewolf fantasy football league) draft is tonight


I luv You too man ;)



VOTE DADDYTORGO

[RendeR]

Screw that

UNVOTE DADDYTORGO

VOTE LATHUM

[RendeR]

I'm at work and will be pretty quiet for awhile.

[Alan T]

Heading out from work in a bit. I don't know that the whole no lynch discussion is a place I'm looking for a wolf currently, as its not a valid vote option this game, plus its pretty much the same discussion we have every game that leads us no where.

I see currently that its 2 votes for Lathum, 2 for Render, I assume Lathum moving his vote to keep someone close to him in the votes. I like keeping things close for now to see who moves where, and will place my vote on the other person Lathum -could- have voted for but chose not to in order to keep things close

Vote DaddyTorgo

I'll be around later tonight, but wanted to get a vote out just in case something came up and I couldn't get back on.

[Lathum]

Unvote Render
Vote DaddyTorgo

[Passacaglia]

Lathum, wtf are you on?

[Lathum]

Lathum, wtf are you on?

trying to keep it close

[path12]

Current vote total:

Lathum 3 -- Passacaglia(83), Telle(85), RendeR(94)
DaddyTorgo 3 -- st.cronin(71), Alan T(96), Lathum(97)
RendeR 1 -- DaddyTorgo(90)
Alan T 1 -- SnDvls(92)


Not voted yet: Barkeep49, Jonathan Ezarik, Chief Rum, ntndeacon

[ntndeacon]

hmmm both of the leasders in the votes scare me. They are both good wolves.

Vote DaddyTorgo

[Lathum]

NTNDeacon just moved up in my trust list.

If I was a wolf in his situation I would have voted for me, putting me in a 4-3 lead. Since DT has his vote currently on Render, DT will switch to me at some point. Had NTNDeacon voted me in essence it would have been 5-3.

[Barkeep49]

I'm surprised that Lathum was surprised about the discussion of a nonexistent no lynch option, though I do agree there is no reason to believe that in this game it helps the villagers. As such I can't vote for him. So I will, for the moment,

Vote DaddyTorgo

[path12]

Current vote total:

DaddyTorgo 5 -- st.cronin(71), Alan T(96), Lathum(97), ntndeacon(101), Barkeep49(103)
Lathum 3 -- Passacaglia(83), Telle(85), RendeR(94)
RendeR 1 -- DaddyTorgo(90)
Alan T 1 -- SnDvls(92)


Not voted yet: Jonathan Ezarik, Chief Rum

GM NOTE: I'm taking my folks out to dinner for their birthdays tonight so results will be around 90 minutes late or thereabouts. Talk amongst yourselves.....

[st.cronin]

I can't believe I'm not the vote leader.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE LATHUM

Why not?

[Lathum]

well I am assuming DT is going to tie it up now that JE made it easy for him

[Lathum]

Render, I see you in the thread.

Why are you not voting for DT since he is voting for you?

[st.cronin]

We don't know what the tiebreaker is, do we?

[Chief Rum]

All right, I want to force some action. Let's see what happens.

VOTE LATHUM

[Lathum]

well DT is gonna swith then I am toast

[Lathum]

Well I can't wait any more since I was forced into this position.

I am the cameraman/ bodyguard.

I'll be protecting myself tonight and have a 50% chance of identifying an attacker.

[SnDvls]

unvote Alan
vote DaddyT

just to keep DT from screwing Lathum and making people react

[SnDvls]

where is everyone?

[Passacaglia]

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE DADDYTORGO

I'm willing to see what happens.

[Chief Rum]

Ouch, sorry to force that Lathum. :(

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE DADDYTORGO

[DaddyTorgo]

i've been drafting not checking the thread.

wtf with people voting for me?

[SnDvls]

wow that quickly went from 5-3-1-1 to 5-5-1-1 to 6-5-1 to 8-3-1 in just a little bit of time

[DaddyTorgo]

whatever. I'm vanilla villager. Kill me if you want

[SnDvls]

i've been drafting not checking the thread.

wtf with people voting for me?


I only did it so you couldn't move your vote and decide the outcome on your own.

[Lathum]

I only did it so you couldn't move your vote and decide the outcome on your own.

to late I was forced into revealing

[Barkeep49]

Unvote Daddy T
Vote Lathum

A shame to have it be villager/villager and go down like this, but then again it's so hard to get a wolf on Day 1.

[SnDvls]

to late I was forced into revealing

in all honestly I never even saw that until you just pointed it out

[DaddyTorgo]

barkeep...why you votin for the BG?

[Passacaglia]

Unvote Daddy T
Vote Lathum

A shame to have it be villager/villager and go down like this, but then again it's so hard to get a wolf on Day 1.

How do you know it's villager/villager?

[SnDvls]

Unvote Daddy T
Vote Lathum

A shame to have it be villager/villager and go down like this, but then again it's so hard to get a wolf on Day 1.

apparently Barkeep missed it too :D

[SnDvls]

unvote DaddyT
vote Barkeep

[Lathum]

Hopefully the dice will be kind and I will live and identify my attacker

[Barkeep49]

Apparently Barkeep did the wrong unvote as my vote is currently ON lathum. I meant to do this:

Unvote Lathum
Vote Daddy T

[Barkeep49]

How do you know it's villager/villager?
I don't know it, I just suspect it based on gameplay. You're too clever by half.

[Barkeep49]

Dola: Sorry thought it was SnDvls who had both asked the question and voted for me.

[SnDvls]

Apparently Barkeep did the wrong unvote as my vote is currently ON lathum. I meant to do this:

Unvote Lathum
Vote Daddy T


ahh ok then

unvote Barkeep
vote Daddy T

[SnDvls]

dola: you do know thought that your vote was on lathum at that time thought right?

[Barkeep49]

I am, as you see, a little tired as I was unexpectedly up late last night and today was the first day of school, at a new school in a new position, so I'm a little extra tired. Plan on getting a good night's sleep tonight which should hopefully make me more awake for Day 2, assuming I live through the night.

[SnDvls]

double dola: should be though not thought sorry

[Passacaglia]

I don't know it, I just suspect it based on gameplay. You're too clever by half.

What kind of gameplay makes you suspect this? It just seems odd, since you generally rail against a no lynch on Day 1, but now you seem ready to call it a lost cause at the last minute.

[Barkeep49]

dola: you do know thought that your vote was on lathum at that time thought right?
Right. That was my point. I meant to vote for Daddy T. When I did post 122 I unvoted for someone I was voting for to continue to vote for someone I was voting for. The names should have been reversed in 122.

[Barkeep49]

What kind of gameplay makes you suspect this? It just seems odd, since you generally rail against a no lynch on Day 1, but now you seem ready to call it a lost cause at the last minute.
What do you mean? I think almost all Day 1s are going to be villager/villager by nature of the fact that wolves can cause runs on villagers via coordination and villagers can't do the same. I rail against no lynch D1s in most situations because more information is revealed via a lynch than a no lynch. However, there have been exceptions to this, in games with a great deal of seers/quasi-seers. This game is straight forward and so even if there were such an option I wouldn't be for it.

[Passacaglia]

So when you said that you suspect that we're villager/villager based on gameplay, is that what you meant? Just that it usually is on Day 1? Or was there something about what Lathum and DT said that made you think it? There's Lathum's reveal, but did DT say anything to make you trust him?

[Chief Rum]

So...deadline?

[RendeR]

Time check

[RendeR]

poop. Couldn't get my kid to sleep in time to check in and stuff.

oh well.

[Lathum]

Path said he is gonna be about 90 minutes late

[Barkeep49]

So when you said that you suspect that we're villager/villager based on gameplay, is that what you meant? Just that it usually is on Day 1? Or was there something about what Lathum and DT said that made you think it? There's Lathum's reveal, but did DT say anything to make you trust him?
The resigned way of "I'm just a villager" suggests to me that he is a villager caught up in a bad situation taking one for the team as it's obviously better to have a no power villager go down than the BG. I do feel bad for DT though as I think he gets picked on in early games these days. This was a contributing factor to my having voted for Lathum earlier in the day.

[Chief Rum]

Path said he is gonna be about 90 minutes late

Well, shoot, no more money spent on the computer time then. I'm outta here. See y'all later tonight (especially you Lathum).

[Lathum]

Well, shoot, no more money spent on the computer time then. I'm outta here. See y'all later tonight (especially you Lathum).

what does THAT mean?

[DaddyTorgo]

The resigned way of "I'm just a villager" suggests to me that he is a villager caught up in a bad situation taking one for the team as it's obviously better to have a no power villager go down than the BG. I do feel bad for DT though as I think he gets picked on in early games these days. This was a contributing factor to my having voted for Lathum earlier in the day.

you are correct. Don't feel bad for me though. I pretty much brought it on myself with my boasting about always living late into games.

[st.cronin]

Very odd day 1. I think I'll vote for Barkeep tomorrow, just based on his clumsy play.

[path12]

I'm back, but it's going to still be around 15-20 minutes (have to go pick someone up) unless I can put this together really quickly...

[path12]

Final vote total:

DaddyTorgo 8 -- st.cronin(71), Alan T(96), Lathum(97), ntndeacon(101), Barkeep49(129), Passacaglia(115), Chief Rum(116), SnDvls(132)
Lathum 3 -- Telle(85), RendeR(94), Jonathan Ezarik(106)
RendeR 1 -- DaddyTorgo(90)

"WHAT THE %&$#* WAS THAT???", the normally unflappable RendeR screamed.
"It looked like someone threw a rock at you"
"I don't know what it was, but I might have just wet myself."
DaddyTorgo walked around the corner. "What was all that noise?". Everyone looked at him suspiciously.
"Where have you been?"
"I was just looking down that hallway", DT pointed behind him. The rest of the cast just stared.
"That's where the rock came from", said one.
"I was on the camera", said Lathum.
It was soon decided. DaddyTorgo must be a Dark Spirit. The group advanced on him, held him down, throttled him. But he didn't change.
Alan T spoke first. "Um.......we can edit that out, right?"

DADDYTORGO WAS A CAST MEMBER.

Night actions to follow.

[DaddyTorgo]

bye guys. Good luck village!

[path12]

Lathum fiddled with his camera lens. "Another goddamn scratch", he muttered while fishing in his satchel for a replacement. "Hmmm....I know it's around here somewhere....". He heard voices down the hall calling for him and decided that he better make sure nobody needed any help. He could look for the lens later, after all. Except as soon as he turned around to check on the others, a clammy hand reached around his face, and he felt another hand......no, it couldn't be.....on his heart. He started to scream, but the hand squeezed, his heart exploded, and he was dead.

LATHUM, THE CAMERAMAN, HAS BEEN KILLED.

DAY 2 IS UNDERWAY. DEADLINE IS 10PM EASTERN TUESDAY. YOUR FRIENDLY GM WILL BE LATE AGAIN. SORRY.

[Lathum]

drats

[DaddyTorgo]

ballsack. look like the wolves are well on the way to taking this one.

[SnDvls]

vote Barkeep

not quite sure I buy his mix up today

[Chief Rum]

what does THAT mean?

Umm, I hope you live to see me tonight when I get back? What do you think it means? You yourself gave yourself a 50-50 chance of living after your reveal. I certainly hope you live.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, and I am talking to a ghost. :rolleyes:

I would have to say this game has decidely not gone off to a great start. I won't be around tomorrow afternoon, so I will have to decide on a vote tonight.

[Chief Rum]

Well, I don't feel I have much to go on. I don't feel strongly enough on Barkeep to put a vote there, especially since he has drawn a lot of suspicion lately and has only been a wolf once, IIRC.

I'm going to go off of a gut feeling.

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

Just seems more aggressive than he usually is. Not sure that makes sense, but any change in normal behavior tends to register. Of course, I have next to nothing to go on here--if we had a real candidate, I would likely be quick to switch out.

But I won't be around tomorrow. Sorry if I am wrong, Pass.

[Barkeep49]

vote Barkeep

not quite sure I buy his mix up today
Which part don't you buy? This thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=60571) verifies my story about being up later than I wanted and it being the first day of school. And let's just be clear: my mix-up was accidentally re-voting for someone. You really think it's a wolf play to unvote someone you're not voting for only to revote someone? I think it was clear what my intention was, to unvote the bodyguard, and as soon as it was pointed out I fixed it.

[Barkeep49]

I'm going to be trying to decide which people would most likely go for Lathum despite his pledge to protect himself. Lathum was obviously going for the fake-out and it takes a bold player to go after him anyway.

[RendeR]

I'm going to be trying to decide which people would most likely go for Lathum despite his pledge to protect himself. Lathum was obviously going for the fake-out and it takes a bold player to go after him anyway.


Actually, it doesn't. The wolves had a 50-50 shot of getting away with a clean kill on the bodyguard. Thats easily worth taking the chance, even if you trade 1-1 or get found out and lynched the next day its worth it for the wolves to take down the BG.

Smartest play they could make in that situation.

[Barkeep49]

Actually, it doesn't. The wolves had a 50-50 shot of getting away with a clean kill on the bodyguard. Thats easily worth taking the chance, even if you trade 1-1 or get found out and lynched the next day its worth it for the wolves to take down the BG.

Smartest play they could make in that situation.
You could be correct. I suppose he could have successfully prevented the attack on himself but died protecting himself. I was focusing more on the fact that he would successfully block the attack rather than the death/reveal possibility.

[st.cronin]

Vote Barkeep49

[st.cronin]

dola,

I don't have a real good feel for anybody in this game yet, but I'll be around today to move my vote if neccesary.

[Alan T]

Without any info to go on, and yesterday's vote between villager/villager, all I have is gut feelings to rely on...

Barkeep has an early lead on votes today, and I show only Pass has a vote besides him right now. I don't think a run away vote helps anyone though, but don't know that I want to vote for Pass here...

Out of everyone from day 1, my gut tells me that Render feels the most wolfish, so I'll go there with my vote for today.

Vote Render

I will be here on and off all day, so also can move my vote if needed.

[Telle]

VOTE RENDER

Keeping it even.

[RendeR]

Keeping it even eh? I'll do the same and

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

[Telle]

Three-way tie:

Barkeep49 - SnDvls (155), st.cronin (163)
Passacaglia - Chief Rum, RendeR (167)
RendeR - Alan T (165), Telle (166)

Yet to vote: Barkeep49, Jonathan Ezarik, Passacaglia, ntndeacon

[Passacaglia]

So the vote on me is just to "keep it even"? No reason for it at all?

[RendeR]

Yup, the more the merrier or some shit like that.

[Barkeep49]

I know I'm innocent and I would lean towards Pass being good based on his posts, as they seem more in line with his villager play than the last time he was a wolf (though presumably he'd do a better job of disguising his play this time). I'm going to maintain that I think it would take the right kind of aggressive player to go after Lathum last night all things considered. I think either cronin or Alan is capable of that. Since cronin has latched onto me without seemingly good reason that'll be my tie breaker. I hope others join me in voting for cronin. If not I will adjust my vote before lynch. However, I really do like cronin more than any of the three current candidates.

Vote cronin

[Barkeep49]

DOLA -- And there really isn't much there for Render so I'm sort of neutral on him.

[st.cronin]

I know I'm innocent and I would lean towards Pass being good based on his posts, as they seem more in line with his villager play than the last time he was a wolf (though presumably he'd do a better job of disguising his play this time). I'm going to maintain that I think it would take the right kind of aggressive player to go after Lathum last night all things considered. I think either cronin or Alan is capable of that. Since cronin has latched onto me without seemingly good reason that'll be my tie breaker. I hope others join me in voting for cronin. If not I will adjust my vote before lynch. However, I really do like cronin more than any of the three current candidates.

Vote cronin

I definitely would have, that's for sure. But I didn't, since I'm just a cast member.

I also think you would have made that same play.

[Passacaglia]

Barkeep, is there more that you have against cronin than simply voting for you, and his desire for a no lynch vote?

On the first topic, I can see where he is coming from -- I'm not going to give you any grief about the weird unvote -- just seems like you were out of it. I'm still wary of you knowing we were villager/villager.

On the second topic -- I hope we can get to a point where we realize that some people like the no lynch vote, and some don't. And that it has nothing to do with who's a wolf.

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep, is there more that you have against cronin than simply voting for you, and his desire for a no lynch vote?

On the first topic, I can see where he is coming from -- I'm not going to give you any grief about the weird unvote -- just seems like you were out of it. I'm still wary of you knowing we were villager/villager.

On the second topic -- I hope we can get to a point where we realize that some people like the no lynch vote, and some don't. And that it has nothing to do with who's a wolf.
I didn't mention the no lynch vote thing at all. I frankly hadn't thought of it in relation to my cronin vote. My weariness with cronin has to do with the fact that the wolves went after the BG despite the fact that the BG could 50% identify one of them. I think it takes guts, guts cronin has.

[Passacaglia]

Okay, I am heading out. Since I'm not sure if I'll get a chance to pop in this evening, I'm going to vote self-preservation. If I vote Barkeep, I fear he'll switch his vote to me. So it's looking like RendeR is the best bet.

VOTE RENDER

[ntndeacon]

I tend to slightly trust Pass a little here, and so Chief's initial vote looks a little fishy to me. but I don't want to throw a fifth name out there this time. He might be someone for discussion tomorrow. Of the 4 candidates listed....

1. I have already said I at least trust Pass a touch so let's throw him out.

2. Barkeep's faux-pas with the voting makes him look more human to me, so for the moment he is out of danger from my vote.

3. I think 4 tied gives the wolves an easier time for a switch that will be not as noticed.

which leaves us with Render. I don't have strong feelings for him, but ibelieve he is the best I can vote for of those 4 candidates this evening. therefore....
Vote Render

[path12]

Current vote totals as of post 177:

RendeR 4 -- Alan T(165), Telle(166), Passacaglia(176), ntndeacon(177)
Barkeep49 2 -- SnDvls(155), st.cronin(163)
Passacaglia 2 -- Chief Rum(158), RendeR(167)
st.cronin 1 -- Barkeep49(171)

Not voted: Jonathan Ezarik.

ANOTHER REMINDER THAT RESULTS WILL BE LATE AS YOUR GM WILL BE AT THE MARINER-ANGEL GAME. GO M'S!.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Well. Still not a whole lot to go on so far. So, who gets my vote...

First off, I won't be voting for RendeR. Not that I think he's good or anything (actually, I have no feel on him at all), but because he's already got four votes. No need to bury him just yet. And if no one tries to move off him pretty soon, then he's looking even more like a good guy.

I don't think Barkeep's miss posting yesterday is a big deal, so I really don't see any reason in voting for him.

I also don't think that it was that bold of a play to go after Lathum last night. In the initial PMs that path sent out, the bodyguard role doesn't mention anything about being able to guard yourself. Maybe he could, but I was under the impression that he couldn't. Perhaps the wolves thought that as well. Either way, that's the reason I won't be voting for st.cronin.

That leaves Pass. Out of all those that are in the running today, he's the only one that has pinged my interest so far. I can't put my finger on anything, but he has stood out to me for whatever reason. I'm probably wrong, but what else is new there?

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

[Barkeep49]

Baring some last minute shenanigans that would cause a tie, I'm thinking I'm going to leave my vote on cronin.

[st.cronin]

Speaking of which, did path ever explain what the tiebreak is?

[RendeR]

Just goes to show you how a bad day 1 lynch really screws the pooch. Our BG is dead, and now a second villager dies.

I wasn't kidding about being a typical frightened cast member. I was as vanilla as generic no role players can get.

Fools.

[ntndeacon]

Speaking of which, did path ever explain what the tiebreak is?

I haven't seen any such explaination.

[path12]

Thanks for your patience. Final vote results:

RendeR 4 -- Alan T(165), Telle(166), Passacaglia(176), ntndeacon(177)
Passacaglia 3 -- Chief Rum(158), RendeR(167), Jonathan Ezarik(179)
Barkeep49 2 -- SnDvls(155), st.cronin(163)
st.cronin 1 -- Barkeep49(171)

I'm too tired to think of much flavor tonight. RendeR is lynched. There is no change. Damn!

RENDER WAS A CAST MEMBER.

[path12]

This is unlike any place you've been before. Creaks, bumps, missing friends.....you decide it is better to stay in a group for now. Down the west wing, night cameras at the ready. It is very still.......until the huge burst of light and sound in front of you, a roar that shakes you to the core.

Suddenly, you see Telle run towards the noise. "Yes! Yes! I've been waiting for this --" then a scream, and she collapses.

TELLE, THE DARK FOLLOWER, HAS BEEN KILLED. DAY 3 IS UNDERWAY, DEADLINE IS 10PM EASTERN WEDNESDAY.

[Alan T]

Hmm, I've read the role description a few times now, and I still can't make heads or tails of it... Do we think that Telle knew who the wolves are, or was she flying blind, the role description doesn't seem to say.

If she knew who the wolves were, I am wondering if her vote yesterday could be indicative of trying to save someone else. If she didn't, then well still not sure where to go.

[Alan T]

Yesterday it was 1-0 Barkeep, then 1-1 Barkeep and Passacaglia, then 2-1 Barkeep over Pass.. then 2-1-1 Barkeep, pass, Render when Telle made her vote for Render to tie it up 2-1-2 between Barkeep and Render.

If Telle didn't know the wolves, this is a moot point I suppose.

[Alan T]

I don't really have a good feel for who a wolf might be in this game, I'm thinking with the bodyguard dead, they are laying low to let the villagers make the mistakes for them..

So I'll vote I suppose based on math probability for now unless something else comes up.

Assuming the wolves didn't want to pile up on the same vote, we'll say they spread out their vote.. based on the vote yesterday:

RendeR 4 -- Alan T(165), Telle(166), Passacaglia(176), ntndeacon(177)
Passacaglia 3 -- Chief Rum(158), RendeR(167), Jonathan Ezarik(179)
Barkeep49 2 -- SnDvls(155), st.cronin(163)
st.cronin 1 -- Barkeep49(171)



That means logically I could assume there is a chance that either Passacaglia or Ntndeacon might be a wolf, either Chief Rum or Jonathan might be a wolf and either St.cronin, sndvls or Barkeep might be a wolf.

I'll go this direction for now, I can change my vote as the day progresses if there is a reason to do so.

Vote St.Cronin

[Barkeep49]

Alan I don't understand your logic.

[Passacaglia]

I think his logic is that the wolves would spread their votes around, so there's not likely to be more than one wolf in each voting block?

Anyway, I'm not sure how to read the Dark Follower role, either.

[Alan T]

My logic is not much better than an educated guess. Wolves can and often do anything... so my "guess" here might not even be correct.. its simply a guess that with only 2-3 unknown players on each person, the wolves likely didn't all pile up on one person.

Thus if we split up the voting groups into three seperate groups, we can make a guess to what percentage of players would possibly be a wolf... It could be entirely wrong, but I'm open to someone else suggesting something better.

How that lead me from that thought to voting St. Cronin, well I don't really have anyone that sticks out for me.. I think that right now I'm giving Barkeep the momentary pass and not thinking he is bad. Passacaglia doesn't really seem to be jumping out to me as a strong wolf like he did when he was a wolf (perhaps he learned and changed his game accordingly though). So that left me with possibly voting for Ntn , cronin, sndvls, chief or jonathan. From that group I basically randomly picked one person of the 5.. I don't have a great feel for who is being wolfish this game. Maybe its all the fantasy football or something.

[Telle]

Wow.. first time I've ever actually been killed in a werewolf game.

Well, good luck wolves! No hard feelings :)

[ntndeacon]

Well, at least the wolves ate someone who was rooting for them.

[Passacaglia]

Well, at least the wolves ate someone who was rooting for them.

That's what I'm thinking. Seems like, despite lynching a villager, we had a good night.

[st.cronin]

I'm going to stick with my vote from yesterday,

Vote Barkeep49

[SnDvls]

I also have no reason to change my vote from yesterday

Vote Barkeep

nothing personal my friend

[st.cronin]

hmmmmm

[ntndeacon]

I believe that it is a mistake to vote for Barkeep. I would hope those that hae done so would change there votes. I said yesterday that Ihad a feeling about someone. I am going to go with that feeling today.

Vote Chief Rum

[st.cronin]

Ok, keeping in mind that Lathum trusted ntn (and Lathum's instincts are usually good)

unvote Barkeep49
vote Chief Rum

[Passacaglia]

I can see that.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[Barkeep49]

Chief Rum would also fit the profile of the person I was talking about yesterday. Since there is movement in that direction I'm happy to

Vote Chief Rum

[path12]

Current vote totals:

Chief Rum 4 -- ntndeacon(198), st.cronin(199), Passacaglia(200), Barkeep49(201)
st.cronin 1 -- Alan T(188)
Barkeep49 1 -- SnDvls(196)

To vote: Jonathan Ezarik, Chief Rum

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Hmm, I've read the role description a few times now, and I still can't make heads or tails of it... Do we think that Telle knew who the wolves are, or was she flying blind, the role description doesn't seem to say.

If she knew who the wolves were, I am wondering if her vote yesterday could be indicative of trying to save someone else. If she didn't, then well still not sure where to go.

Pardon? What's so confusing about this?

You are a Dark Follower. You have joined the cast in order to better understand the demons and Dark Spirits you secretly admire. Although you count as a cast member for parity purposes, you win with the Dark Spirits. You do not know who they are and have no PM rights. But you may scan one player each night in order to find the Empath.


Seems pretty clear to me that she didn't know who they were. And since it's not like you to miss something this clear,

VOTE ALAN T

[Passacaglia]

I think Alan was reading the rules as listed in Post #2 -- I know that's what happened to me. Anyway, that still seems like a fishy throwaway vote to me.

[Alan T]

Sounds like a great reason to vote me, people with poor reading skills must be a wolf.

Considering I didn't push that point any and was thinking outloud at like 6am, I obviously came to that same conclusion wouldn't you think?

I even gave my thought process for that.

I think the more likely thing is that the people voting for Chief are right and he is a wolf, and you are his wolf friend trying to divert attention away from him. It would mean that I was wrong about both wolves piling onto the same vote, but I've been wrong about many things before.

If Chief ends up a wolf, I'm coming after you tommorrow.

[Alan T]

Dark Follower -- although you are a cast member, you secretly sympathize with the Dark Spirits and hope to prove yourself worthy of joining them. You may search one player each night in hopes of finding the Empath. You count as a cast member for parity purposes.




In fact, rereading the rules, it doesn't say what you quoted. This is the actual quote from the rules.. Where did you pull that from your wolf pm?

[Alan T]

Ahh,, cross posted with Pass.. I see what you quoted now... Still either way, I think its a diversion tactic to get people off of Chief. I'll likely vote Jonathan tommorrow.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

In fact, rereading the rules, it doesn't say what you quoted. This is the actual quote from the rules.. Where did you pull that from your wolf pm?

Seriously? Click on the quote button next to path's name. It'll take you directly to the quote. Even better, it was post number 55.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I think Alan was reading the rules as listed in Post #2 -- I know that's what happened to me. Anyway, that still seems like a fishy throwaway vote to me.

A throwaway vote? I guess I should just be like everyone else and vote for Chief Rum so we can have a runaway vote all three days. Yea! Sounds like a good idea. :rolleyes:

[Alan T]

Seriously? Click on the quote button next to path's name. It'll take you directly to the quote. Even better, it was post number 55.

I already posted that I saw where you got it from. Like I said, you are clearly trying to divert attention the only way you can from Chief right now. If you had it your way, no one would ever bounce ideas out and discussion would be a complete standstill. That doesn't sound like something a villager would want at all.

I know you've been around long enough to know that I throw out alot of ideas, and maybe most of them are wrong, so to try to narrow in on this one when its very obvious the rules doesn't mention it at all, and through the entire course of the day no one else brought it up too just seems fishy to me.

I will be quite suprised if you are a villager.

[Passacaglia]

A throwaway vote? I guess I should just be like everyone else and vote for Chief Rum so we can have a runaway vote all three days. Yea! Sounds like a good idea. :rolleyes:

I'm obviously not trying to tell you who to vote for. But at this late point, a vote for someone other than CR, or someone who already has a vote on him, it's going to be considered a throwaway vote.

[Chief Rum]

What the hell?

I go away for work and you guys dogpile on me? Someone give a legitimate reason for jumping on me?

"Oh, I gotta feeling" Gimme a break. I get "feelings" during these games, too; if I went completely off of gut all the time, my vote would end up taking out villagers 99% of the time.

Does someone have a rational reason to vote for me? When there is a string of votes like that, usually people question that. Why not now? Someone give one iota of a rational thought as to why I am more wolflike than just about any of you?

You guys are being hoodwinked. You have been led to this, and now you're not only trying to kill a villager, but a generally active one, too (outside of work). There are wolves in that vote. There has to be. If I were a wolf, that's where I would go.

Not saying I think ntn is the wolf; I just think he has bad judgment. But you guys are letting the wolves hide in the open AND killing off a good villager player. Just dumb, people, dumb.

I am going to go off of the most suspicious to me voting for me (not to mention self preservaiton).

VOTE BARKEEP

I am here for a little bit, so if you guys have questions for me, fire away. But I won't be here too long, so ask them now. I'm not going to waste the rest of an afternoon fighting off allegations without merit, though. Someone give me something more than a "feeling"! This is stupid. :rolleyes:

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I already posted that I saw where you got it from. Like I said, you are clearly trying to divert attention the only way you can from Chief right now. If you had it your way, no one would ever bounce ideas out and discussion would be a complete standstill. That doesn't sound like something a villager would want at all.

I know you've been around long enough to know that I throw out alot of ideas, and maybe most of them are wrong, so to try to narrow in on this one when its very obvious the rules doesn't mention it at all, and through the entire course of the day no one else brought it up too just seems fishy to me.

I will be quite suprised if you are a villager.

Yeah, you posted that you saw where I got that when I was posting my reply.

As for trying to divert attention from Chief, please. I have absolutely no idea if Chief is good or not. I hope he's not good since he's getting lynched today and I hate that the only good news we've had so far has come from the wolves. I had to place a vote and I wasn't going to vote for Chief and complete the runaway. I threw out something I found interesting (the same thing you are accusing me of being against) and voted you because of that. If it's no big deal and was an honest mistake on your part, why are you making it into a big deal? Hell, as you already said, no one pointed out what I did so either they didn't catch it or didn't care, so what makes you think that by me pointing it out now it's going to make any difference?

And yes, I know how you play. Which is why I found it odd that you were so off on Telle's role since path told us what the PMs were. I'm not the most observant of people, but path's PM post is one thing that I definitely took note of.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I'm obviously not trying to tell you who to vote for. But at this late point, a vote for someone other than CR, or someone who already has a vote on him, it's going to be considered a throwaway vote.

What about voting for someone you think is a wolf? If I knew someone was a wolf and voted for him even though no one else did, is that still a throwaway vote?

Note: I'm not claiming to know that Alan is a wolf. I'm not the Empath. I'm just saying that I don't have any reason to vote for Chief while I do have a reason to vote for Alan. Maybe not a reason you agree with, but it's where my vote is going.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Does someone have a rational reason to vote for me? When there is a string of votes like that, usually people question that. Why not now? Someone give one iota of a rational thought as to why I am more wolflike than just about any of you?

This is what's striking me as odd as well. Normally, people would be all up in arms about a runaway vote like this, but not today. It seems like the only reason to vote for you is because ntn voted for you and Lathum had a good feeling about ntn. Never mind that Lathum was only around for one day, apparently that's good enough for most people.

I should probably be quiet now so I won't be accused of trying to save you again. :rolleyes:

[Alan T]

Yeah, you posted that you saw where I got that when I was posting my reply.

As for trying to divert attention from Chief, please. I have absolutely no idea if Chief is good or not. I hope he's not good since he's getting lynched today and I hate that the only good news we've had so far has come from the wolves. I had to place a vote and I wasn't going to vote for Chief and complete the runaway. I threw out something I found interesting (the same thing you are accusing me of being against) and voted you because of that. If it's no big deal and was an honest mistake on your part, why are you making it into a big deal? Hell, as you already said, no one pointed out what I did so either they didn't catch it or didn't care, so what makes you think that by me pointing it out now it's going to make any difference?

And yes, I know how you play. Which is why I found it odd that you were so off on Telle's role since path told us what the PMs were. I'm not the most observant of people, but path's PM post is one thing that I definitely took note of.


That type of post 9 times out of 10 is included in the official game rules, not burried on page 2. People can fault me if they want for not searching through every page at 6am this morning for a post I didn't know existed if they want. The fact of the matter is I brought up the idea, then after thinking it through figured she didn't know who they were, and in addition gave my reasoning for going the way I did with my vote. Your reasoning for voting me makes no sense, throw away vote or not, and just serves one point, trying to divert the attention from those on the noose.

[Alan T]

What about voting for someone you think is a wolf? If I knew someone was a wolf and voted for him even though no one else did, is that still a throwaway vote?

Note: I'm not claiming to know that Alan is a wolf. I'm not the Empath. I'm just saying that I don't have any reason to vote for Chief while I do have a reason to vote for Alan. Maybe not a reason you agree with, but it's where my vote is going.

Your reason for voting me makes no sense. You are claiming I am pushing a point that I actually steered away from.

Not that it mattered any as absolutely no one followed my lead anyhows. Your vote is purely trying to divert attention.

[Chief Rum]

I'm not sure what you guys are caught up about. Neither of you are on the block. Meanwhile, one of the more mysterious and obvious WW moves has happened here, and no one is even trying to save me. I can't do it on my own. If you guys put away the hatchet for a day and try to address this messed up vote we have, I am sure another day will settle things. I for one never thought either of you were a wolf.

I don't know how the tie breaker goes. But I need two votes to stop someone's plan. And in a game this small, you both know how much one bad lynch can hurt. Lynch me, another player dies, assuming two wolves, you're looking at 4-2--in other words, do or die tomorrow if this lycnh ain't right.

This is crazy, and I can't believe it took me getting home for someone to say something.

[Alan T]

I'm not sure what you guys are caught up about. Neither of you are on the block. Meanwhile, one of the more mysterious and obvious WW moves has happened here, and no one is even trying to save me. I can't do it on my own. If you guys put away the hatchet for a day and try to address this messed up vote we have, I am sure another day will settle things. I for one never thought either of you were a wolf.

I don't know how the tie breaker goes. But I need two votes to stop someone's plan. And in a game this small, you both know how much one bad lynch can hurt. Lynch me, another player dies, assuming two wolves, you're looking at 4-2--in other words, do or die tomorrow if this lycnh ain't right.

This is crazy, and I can't believe it took me getting home for someone to say something.

I am not planning on saving you. I have a feeling I know whats going on here, and its only good for the village. I have no desire to move my vote onto anyone else to give you an opportunity to escape lynching, and if others do so, I likely will move my vote onto you. Right now it doesnt look like my vote on you matters, so I didnt bother.

[Chief Rum]

I am not planning on saving you. I have a feeling I know whats going on here, and its only good for the village. I have no desire to move my vote onto anyone else to give you an opportunity to escape lynching, and if others do so, I likely will move my vote onto you. Right now it doesnt look like my vote on you matters, so I didnt bother.

Wow, I am glad you know. You mind telling me what's going on? If you're saying ntn is the empath and his word is God, I'll have to remember for that for the future. Then I can say I "got a feeling yesterday" and today I am voting on it, and watch everyone dogpile on my vote, too!

Alan, you're usually one of the most suspicious around. You don't see what's happening here? This game is turning on one player's say so, and you have no more reason to trust him than me. Heck, this whole decision apparently turns on me not being around to defend myself. How much does that suck?

You guys are making a mistake, and are dooming yourselves to a loss. I don't see how you get out of this when two more villagers are dead after tonight.

[Chief Rum]

Well, I have said my piece. I'm not going to spend the rest of the time to deadline trying to convince a bunch of sheep they're being misled. You all deserve to lose. I realize mob mentality is blind, but usually there's a damn good reason for it. One guys comes out with a feeling, and now I am toast?

Why do I even play? With villagers like this, who needs wolves? I think that will be my next game. Everyone is a villager. Someone is selected randomly to die every night. And the game doesn't end until someone figures out the "fix" or only two villagers are left. I sure as heck know this group would lose that one. :rolleyes:

I would give the wolves reluctant props for their move if shooting fish in a barrell required any skill.

[Alan T]

I am not sure that the Ardent defense fits you well Chief.

[Barkeep49]

Chief, you fit my profile of someone who would go after Lathum, given the circumstances, on Day 1. As I have been the other major vote leader, I saw no reason to look farther. It's great when you can feel good about self defense.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

That type of post 9 times out of 10 is included in the official game rules, not burried on page 2. People can fault me if they want for not searching through every page at 6am this morning for a post I didn't know existed if they want.

Yeah, silly me. I guess it's hard to miss a large post made in red font. I tend to pay attention to the posts that the GM makes, but I guess that's just me

Your reason for voting me makes no sense. You are claiming I am pushing a point that I actually steered away from.

Not that it mattered any as absolutely no one followed my lead anyhows. Your vote is purely trying to divert attention.

Please show me where I claimed you were pushing that point about Telle. I found it interesting that you couldn't figure out what Telle knew when to me it was obvious because path told us. That didn't seem like the Alan I know. It has nothing to do with whether you pushed that idea or not. The fact that you put it out there was enough for me.

What I want to know is why are you freaking out like this and repeating yourself constantly that this is nothing more than an attempt by me to cover Chief. Why are you so nervous about me drawing attention to what you said?

[Alan T]

Its funny that you call it freaking out. Your attack on me has nothing but holes in it, but I'm freaking out? I simply am saying your point makes no sense. I quoted what led me to say what I did, and you are trying to stir up stuff for no apparent reason. Obviously there has to be some motive behind it, you are too smart of a player to honestly think that I make some weird move with Telle's role as a wolf. You are simply trying to stop discussion and that is wolfish.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Its funny that you call it freaking out. Your attack on me has nothing but holes in it, but I'm freaking out? I simply am saying your point makes no sense. I quoted what led me to say what I did, and you are trying to stir up stuff for no apparent reason. Obviously there has to be some motive behind it, you are too smart of a player to honestly think that I make some weird move with Telle's role as a wolf. You are simply trying to stop discussion and that is wolfish.

I'm trying to stop discussion on something that there wasn't even discussion on? Now I'm really confused.

[Alan T]

Now you are just playing word games. I'm done with this conversation and you have my vote tommorrow if I live through tonight.

[Barkeep49]

I hope I don't die.

[path12]

Final vote totals:

Chief Rum 4 -- ntndeacon(198), st.cronin(199), Passacaglia(200), Barkeep49(201)
Barkeep49 2 -- SnDvls(196), Chief Rum(212)
st.cronin 1 -- Alan T(188)
Alan T 1 -- Jonathan Ezarik(203)

Stunned by the events of the night, you return to the entrance hall to figure out what to do next. There is consensus after Telle's death that there must be spirits among you. The problem is finding out who. After discussion, it is decided that Chief Rum must be the cause of this. He is fierce in his denials, and it takes quite a struggle to subdue him. As he is brought down, a freezing wind blows through you all and Chief disappears!

CHIEF RUM, A DARK SPIRIT, HAS BEEN KILLED.

[Passacaglia]

Nice!!

[Barkeep49]

1 down. I like it.

[path12]

Cheered at the realization that you have bagged a dark spirit, you all decide to go back into the mansion and find a ghost to capture on film. One group goes towards the kitchen, where banging of pots and pans was heard earlier. Another group heads towards the library, where it is rumored that the builder of the house was killed and haunts it to this day.

It is dead silent and midnight. A crash is heard in the kitchen followed by screams. When you all regroup you see ntndeacon dead at your feet. Well, you see his head. And a lot of blood. His body seems to be missing.

NTNDEACON, THE EMPATH, HAS BEEN KILLED.

DAY 4 IS UNDERWAY.

[path12]

The GM has a dilemma, kids. I'm off to Vegas in the morning until Sunday night. I've messaged the folks who have died previously, and I'm going to check with Chief and/or ntn to see if one of them can step in and GM tomorrow and Friday (I had figured on a break for Labor Day weekend). I will let you know what I hear.

[path12]

Crim, I see you in thread too. If you're willing shoot me a PM.

[Alan T]

Not a huge suprise there, it seemed pretty obvious who Ntn was from what he said and how he said it..

I'm going with the same vote as yesterday. I was mostly blowing hot air at Jonathan.. I dont think when your wolf buddy is on the line to die, you make a big fuss and draw attention to himself.. I think Jonathan was just horribly misguided and read far more into what was actually there..

As a wolf, I think you try to blend in, be one of the first to vote for your wolf buddy and hope the momentum points people somewhere else.. I think I'll go with my same vote as yesterday

Vote St.Cronin

[Barkeep49]

Ok I think we all saw that coming. I'm going to go ahead and vote for JE who made the least sense in voting for someone not named Chief. I'd love to hear what Alan's rationale was for not voting CR since ntn pretty clearly telegraphed his play.

Vote Jonthan

[Barkeep49]

Not a huge suprise there, it seemed pretty obvious who Ntn was from what he said and how he said it..

I'm going with the same vote as yesterday. I was mostly blowing hot air at Jonathan.. I dont think when your wolf buddy is on the line to die, you make a big fuss and draw attention to himself.. I think Jonathan was just horribly misguided and read far more into what was actually there..

As a wolf, I think you try to blend in, be one of the first to vote for your wolf buddy and hope the momentum points people somewhere else.. I think I'll go with my same vote as yesterday

Vote St.Cronin
Ok. I can buy that logic. You didn't put up much of a fuss and didn't vote for CR.

Unvote JE
Vote Alan

[Passacaglia]

blah

[Barkeep49]

BTW I like how NTN played the seer. He got us the 1 for 1, which is the best as can be expected, with an obvious, though not outright, reveal. It was a shame we lost lathum on Day 1 otherwise we could have had another free scan. Oh well, we're still in pretty good shape.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

BTW I like how NTN played the seer. He got us the 1 for 1, which is the best as can be expected, with an obvious, though not outright, reveal. It was a shame we lost lathum on Day 1 otherwise we could have had another free scan. Oh well, we're still in pretty good shape.

And I think he cleared you in the process. Although I do wish he would have revealed and at least told us who else he scanned since it was kind of obvious he was hinting pretty heavily that he was the Empath. (And by obvious I mean obvious in hindsight since I missed it the first time around. I told you I wasn't the most observant player out there.)

[Alan T]

Ok. I can buy that logic. You didn't put up much of a fuss and didn't vote for CR.

Unvote JE
Vote Alan

You don't want to vote me, and I think by the end of this day I will have convinced you not to.

Meanwhile, right now based on gut feels.. I am going to assume the following are not wolves based entirely on play styles thus far:

Barkeep, Jonathan, Passacaglia

That leaves my vote today to either be between Sndvls or St.cronin, and I dont really have a good feel for one over the other. I'm still leaning voting for cronin here.

[SnDvls]

vote St. C

it looks like it might be a show down between he and I tomorrow so I might as well get it out of the way now.

[Passacaglia]

vote St. C

it looks like it might be a show down between he and I tomorrow so I might as well get it out of the way now.

It seems like Alan is in the mix, too. He's got a vote on him, and he might get mine. He hinted that he knew that ntn was the seer late, right before deadline, but still didn't vote for CR. On the other hand, he did also say that he would switch his vote to CR if it was needed.

You and cronin are just hard to read for me at this point.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Meanwhile, right now based on gut feels.. I am going to assume the following are not wolves based entirely on play styles thus far:

Barkeep, Jonathan, Passacaglia

What about Pass is making you feel like he's good?

[SnDvls]

What about Pass is making you feel like he's good?

Can't speak for Alan but a post by NTN on page 3 is my reason

[SnDvls]

It seems like Alan is in the mix, too. He's got a vote on him, and he might get mine. He hinted that he knew that ntn was the seer late, right before deadline, but still didn't vote for CR. On the other hand, he did also say that he would switch his vote to CR if it was needed.

You and cronin are just hard to read for me at this point.

ah yes this is true...guess I can hold off a bit then

unvote St. C

[SnDvls]

dola - it's just been a pretty blah game for me...no special role and really no info to go on either makes it hard to get into.

[st.cronin]

Vote SnDvls

I agree that Barkeep is likely cleared. Tomorrow will be another very busy day for me, but at some point I'm going to go back and see if anybody else jumps out at me, but I was suspicious of Sn early yesterday (after he voted Barkeep).

[SnDvls]

double dola - Alan's fight w/ CR just doesn't strike me as a wolf though so I'll probally go back to St. C anyhow

[st.cronin]

In general I have gotten a "good" vibe from both Pass and Alan in this game. At any rate I'm glad to have Barkeep on my side.