Alright boyz, here we go!! Tiger Woods 08 first impressions...

[BigDPW]

Haven't gotten the game yet but am in the process of downloading the demo. I have been reading alot about the game over at OS and it seems to be improved as far as the challenge goes only with continued "rubber band AI" during tournaments.

I will post my demo impressions but would love to hear any of your full game impressions if you got the game today at release.

[BigDPW]

Man downloading the nearly 800 MB demo is taking forever... Must be alot of people downloading it today... Sorry for the delayed impressions...

[Ajaxab]

My wife bought this for me for my birthday. I've only messed around with practice modes thus far and started on Tour Mode difficulty, but I am having a tough time keeping the ball from slicing or hooking. It's definitely going to take some practice.

[Schmidty]

I buy this every year, and play it more than the majority of the games I have.

Is it available to buy as a d/l, or just a demo?

[Schmidty]

Dola.

I don't mean a console (vomit) demo. I mean an actual PC demo.

[BigDPW]

Not sure about a PC Demo... I have heard that they took out the ability to create custom courses and use them in the game (including bringing in courses made with the editor from last year) on the PC version... If that is true that is a real bummer... That has always been one of the best things about PC golf was being able to play Augusta (created by someone) and all of the great fictional courses people create...

[Schmidty]

I am so sick of PC gamers getting screwed. Mindless console zombies are the wave of the future it seems.

I wish I could take a giant dump on a Wi360PSP3 right now.

[BigDPW]

OK. Just tinished playing through the 3 hole demo about 5 times. The three holes are 10-11-12 at TPC Boston (Par 4 - Par5 - Par3). The beauty of the course and textures really shines through in the demo. As far as gameplay goes please take my opinion in the proper context. I have not played console TW since a couple of years ago on the XBox. I did buy TW06 for the PC and enjoyed it alot.

Gameplay is difficult to get my hands around as the 3 wholes you play you are playing from the easiest tees (Ladies tees I think) and you have Tigers driving power at your disposal. The 315 yd Par 4 that you start with is driveable but dangerous to do so due to some bunkers on the left. I tried to drive it 4 of my 5 attempts and only succeeded once. The sensitivity of the left stick when swinging is very high and only about 10% of my shots were "Perfect" while most of them were the second or 3rd degree of hook (and the occasional slice). For those of you looking for a challenge at console golf then I think this could be your match. I would assume that the demo is on one of the easier levels too so I am pretty sure there is a harder way to play in the real version.

Putting is more difficult than any TW game I remember playing on a console in the past. I tried the entire time to not use the "aftershot" spin or power boosts and I think it will be fun to play without those in the retail version.

I did not notice any framerate hiccups but then again I am probably not the most sensitive to those anyway compared to some of the graphics whores out there.

After playing the demo I am pretty sure I can get some enjoyment out of the single player portion of this game (minus tournaments against the AI - due to rubber band AI). I am really psyched about the Game Face feature where you can upload your photo from the front and the side to EASPORTSWORLD to create a realistic looking face for your custom golfer.

The GamerNet feature where you go online and create challenges and take on others challenges also sounds like alot of fun.

I will probably go pick up this game in the next few days if I continue to hear good things about it on this forum and others.

[MizzouRah]

Did they FINALLY make it so it plays a decent game of golf? This series has been the worst for quite some time.

I guess I'll check out the demo, but I don't have much expectations.

[Schmidty]

This series has been the worst for quite some time.

You lost me with that unreal sentence. I just can't relate to a person who doesn't at least think the game is decent.

*shakes head in bewilderment*

[BrianD]

Any golf game where a good round gets you in the high 40s and a bad round ends up in the high 50s is a suspect game. I have generally been entertained by it, but it has never come close to approximating real golf.

[Schmidty]

Any golf game where a good round gets you in the high 40s and a bad round ends up in the high 50s is a suspect game. I have generally been entertained by it, but it has never come close to approximating real golf.

I play at intermediate, and find it to be a blast, and I shoot varying scores. Then again, I use a PC, not an idiot pad. (Sorry, I just really, really hate consoles)

By the way, I'm not suggesting that someone should think it's the greatest game ever, but to say it's the worst is just silly. That was my main issue with his post.

[mrsimperless]

Any have any wiipressions of this game yet? this has the potential to be one of the best wii titles available.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Any have any wiipressions of this game yet? this has the potential to be one of the best wii titles available.

FYI......The Wii version appears to be the worst of the bunch. The guys over at the SportsGamer blog mentioned that there really are no new features to speak of and the motion control is still very spotty at best. I've heard similar things from another person who's had a review copy for a couple of days.

[Booj]

Just played a bit with the 360 version, and it seems to be pretty challenging (keeping in mind I haven't played a TW title since 2004). I've been doing some rounds with Mike Weir and a bad shot really does penalize you, especially using the Analog swing.

I started a practice career mode with rookie Tiger Woods and quickly found myself +10 after three holes.

Maybe there's hope yet...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Just played a bit with the 360 version, and it seems to be pretty challenging (keeping in mind I haven't played a TW title since 2004). I've been doing some rounds with Mike Weir and a bad shot really does penalize you, especially using the Analog swing.

I started a practice career mode with rookie Tiger Woods and quickly found myself +10 after three holes.

Maybe there's hope yet...

You'll find that the game gets much easier as you improve your golfer's skills. Many people play with house rules on Tiger Woods where they only power up their character to a certain level to avoid making it too easy later in the game to avoid the rounds in the 40s and 50s.

[Bee]

Can someone go into a little detail about the career mode? I remember in some of the older versions that you could start out as an amateur and work your way up to the PGA. A few months ago I rented 07 and the career mode just seemed to toss you into the PGA right of the bat and the progression felt really poor. The career mode to me really felt like a major downgrade from the older version I had played.

[albionmoonlight]

Any have any wiipressions of this game yet? this has the potential to be one of the best wii titles available.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/816/816464p1.html

Not bad. Not great.

[MizzouRah]

You lost me with that unreal sentence. I just can't relate to a person who doesn't at least think the game is decent.

*shakes head in bewilderment*

I guess you never played Links?

Tiger has been the same year after year. It's so easy to play, it's laughable. I've read this year is different, but I'm skeptical.

Honestly, I don't even think it's decent. It's boring, provides little challenge and is the same year after year. Again.. I'm hoping this year is different. I also wish Links would come back!!!

[BrianD]

I guess you never played Links?

Tiger has been the same year after year. It's so easy to play, it's laughable. I've read this year is different, but I'm skeptical.

Honestly, I don't even think it's decent. It's boring, provides little challenge and is the same year after year. Again.. I'm hoping this year is different. I also wish Links would come back!!!

I miss Links. I played that game for years and spent some time on a Links ladder when ladders were fairly new. With all that gameplay, I never got a hole in one in that game. I got one in the first game I played on TW.

I never have played the TW game on a PC, so I can't speak to how that version of the game is.

[MizzouRah]

I miss Links. I played that game for years and spent some time on a Links ladder when ladders were fairly new. With all that gameplay, I never got a hole in one in that game. I got one in the first game I played on TW.

I never have played the TW game on a PC, so I can't speak to how that version of the game is.

Yeah, I've had like 4 or 5 holes in one in TW. The game is just soooooo boring.

I've played on consoles (TW), but I haven't read anything to suspect it's any better.

[Icy]

I might buy this game, but i'm worried about the comments in OPS forums. It seems that while the graphics and even gameplay has been improved, the computer still has the called "ruberband AI". It means that the AI players don't play to their real abilities but matching yours.

Example, you have a great round and end -4, the following round most of the computer players end around that score. If you do something stupidly extreme like ending +80 on purpose, most of the computer players end also with scores close to +80.

While that sounds like a good idea to match every player level, it ruins the career mode for me. I want the good players to be good and the crap ones to be crap, that way, if i win a tourney, it will be because i have improved and not because the CPU players play like crap to match my level.

If you guys can test it, it could be great.

[Phototropic]

I wasn't going to pick it up because of the rubberband issue which REALLY sucks. I haven't tested it for myself yet, but I played a round offline and online with 2 friends. Both were on Tour Pro skill level using the default tour pros, and I shot 92, 89. Online was a blast. If you are looking for offline only, I don't know if I can recommend it as I haven't delved into that, but the game is seriously difficult and fun on the hardest setting. I'm definitely glad I picked it up.

I haven't played the series since the XBOX where I would shoot 58-62 every round, but I can pretty much guarantee I will never have that problem.

Just to mention, I played Links on the PC for 2-3 years straight back in the day, only using the Powerstroke swing once they implemented that feature. I would never compare the physics in the two games, but online play was much more enjoyable than anything I experienced with Links. YMMV.

[JS19]

I just picked it up for PS3 yesterday and find it very difficult. I'm assuming that's bc I have never played a golf game before and still trying to figure out how to master the controls.

[Ajaxab]

I wasn't going to pick it up because of the rubberband issue which REALLY sucks. I haven't tested it for myself yet, but I played a round offline and online with 2 friends. Both were on Tour Pro skill level using the default tour pros, and I shot 92, 89. Online was a blast. If you are looking for offline only, I don't know if I can recommend it as I haven't delved into that, but the game is seriously difficult and fun on the hardest setting. I'm definitely glad I picked it up.

I haven't played the series since the XBOX where I would shoot 58-62 every round, but I can pretty much guarantee I will never have that problem.

This is exactly right. Playing on Tour Mode difficulty, I can't ever foresee the day I shoot the consistent high 50s that I used to when I played the '04 and '06 versions for the Xbox. Hitting the perfect shot is much more difficult than it used to be. I too was expecting the ridiculous holes-in-one, multiple chip ins from the fairway, but I'm having a hard enough time just keeping the ball straight, never mind actually getting it close to the hole. The rubber band AI is extremely dumb, but I can vouch for the fact this game is definitely considerably harder than '04 and '06.

[MizzouRah]

I'm glad it's harder.. that was my #1 concern. Now with all this "rubberband AI" talk (words people think of for games crack me up), I still don't think I'll pick this one up - unless it's all just rumors.

[Schmidty]

I guess you never played Links?

Tiger has been the same year after year. It's so easy to play, it's laughable. I've read this year is different, but I'm skeptical.

Honestly, I don't even think it's decent. It's boring, provides little challenge and is the same year after year. Again.. I'm hoping this year is different. I also wish Links would come back!!!

Even when it was PGA Golf or whatever, I still liked it more than Links. Links was clunky and slow.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Links was clunky and slow.
OK, this is just blasphemy.

[Schmidty]

OK, this is just blasphemy.

I just remember playing "real swing" thing with PGA for the first time, and thinking how smooth and fun it was. I tried playing Links again after that, and it just didn't feel right, with all the clicking.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I just remember playing "real swing" thing with PGA for the first time, and thinking how smooth and fun it was. I tried playing Links again after that, and it just didn't feel right, with all the clicking.
You poor, misguided Schmidty. Come over here and let Pumpy give you a hug. I think you need it. :(

[Schmidty]

You poor, misguided Schmidty. Come over here and let Pumpy give you a hug. I think you need it. :(

NO! You are a dirty console player. I don't want your taint.

[Karlifornia]

New FOFC drinking game: Do a shot every time Schmidty mentions he doesn't like consoles in the Tiger Woods thread.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I vote for doing a shot every time Schmidty mentions my taint.

[MizzouRah]

I vote for doing a shot every time Schmidty mentions my taint.

""

[Schmidty]

I vote for doing a shot every time Schmidty mentions my taint.

Bob Saget approves.

[MizzouRah]

Bob Saget loves Pumpy's taint.

Shot time!!!

[MizzouRah]

Played the demo.. feels better than 07, but that's not saying much. Of course you're using Tiger, so take that FWIW.

The game looks better and I see you still have to hit A many times to skip the corny cut scenes.

I'll wait to hear some more impressions.. especially since NHL 08 is due out soon. Would be fun to get a FOFC tourney online.

[JS19]

Little help. Keep in mid I have never played a golf game before, but I found this to be a little odd. I'm playing in the career mode, 1st tourny of the yr, and after the 1st round the leaders shot a 68, 65, 68, and 67. Now Im looking on the scorecard as I enter round 3 and it says their 2nd round scores are 90, 94, 94, 94. I don't know mu about golf, but that just doesn't seem right. Also, again, i know next to nothing about golf, but how did I make the cut if I shot a 92, and a 91??

[Schmidty]

The game looks better and I see you still have to hit A many times to skip the corny cut scenes.

See, there's proof of why you hate the game - You're playing it on a piece of shit-ass fucking console. That's not even close to playing it on PC.

Why not just shove your teenage-twitch-inducing, pile of garbage controller up Pumpy's taint, and be done with that zombie-creating, brainless box of idiocy.

[MizzouRah]

See, there's proof of why you hate the game - You're playing it on a piece of shit-ass fucking console. That's not even close to playing it on PC.

Why not just shove your teenage-twitch-inducing, pile of garbage controller up Pumpy's taint, and be done with that zombie-creating, brainless box of idiocy.

Ohhh behave!

C0ns0Lz rUlz f0o!

[Dr. Sak]

What is rubber band AI?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Great, now I have to get another controller shoved up my taint. It's not easy being me.

[BigDPW]

Little help. Keep in mid I have never played a golf game before, but I found this to be a little odd. I'm playing in the career mode, 1st tourny of the yr, and after the 1st round the leaders shot a 68, 65, 68, and 67. Now Im looking on the scorecard as I enter round 3 and it says their 2nd round scores are 90, 94, 94, 94. I don't know mu about golf, but that just doesn't seem right. Also, again, i know next to nothing about golf, but how did I make the cut if I shot a 92, and a 91??

This is an example of the "Rubber Band AI" during tournaments. What the CPU does is in Round 1 the field shoots what they would normaly shoot. In round two the fields scores are clustered around what your 1st round score is. If you shoot a 91 in round 1 the majority of the field will shoot in the low 90's on round 2. This continues for each round through the tournament. The way I have found to counter this is to set the tournaments in career mode to only be 1 round. It sucks that we cannot play a full 4 rounds and have the field play to there abilities throughout though. I can understand having this feature in for some gamers but it really should have an on-off switch. Or make it very subtle where only 1/4 or 1/3 of the field are effected so you have a chance to make the cut but not to win the entire tourney due to it.

I broke down and bought this game for the 360 yesterday and so far I am having a good time with it. I will be glad when I can upload my photo to EASPORTSWORLD and get my face in the game.

I will give some more detailed impressions soon but for now here are my thoughts:

Graphics are great (not a huge priority for me but nice)
This game is challenging on balanced level and my crap golfer right now so I think it will continue to be challenging despite my golfer leveling up if I up the difficulty to hard or tour pro soon.
Swing mechanics feel pretty good (I have not played Links 360 so take this with a grain of salt if you are in love with the links engine as I have no comparison)
I turn off the spin and power up features with shots and I think this represents real golf much better and adds to the challenge. You can still spin the ball but you have to select how much prior to your shot - not in the air like Tiger game have been doing for so long.
The ability to plan fades/draws pre-shot to varying degrees is a huge addition to the game and I have hoped for this for a long time in a console golf game.
It would be nice if the players had a rating for draw/fade so you couldn't do it well from the moment you hit the course - I like how the TW PC games you have to work your way up to be able to use draw/fade mechanics.
Putting is much much better than I remember from a couple of years ago on the XBOX. You will push/pull putts pretty consistently on balanced difficulty so I am curious to see how tough putting is on tour pro and hard.More to come later as I get more time with the game...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Just a heads up for those considering the game. Gamespot is reporting a game crash bug exists in the 360 version. They also mention little to no feature improvement from previous games (a EA trademark at this point)...........

360 review:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/tigerwoodspgatour08/review.html?sid=6177873

PS3 review:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/tigerwoodspgatour08/review.html?sid=6177870

[Capital]

Anyone know what or how many courses are in the PC version?

[Eaglesfan27]

Just a heads up for those considering the game. Gamespot is reporting a game crash bug exists in the 360 version. They also mention little to no feature improvement from previous games (a EA trademark at this point)...........

360 review:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/tigerwoodspgatour08/review.html?sid=6177873

PS3 review:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/tigerwoodspgatour08/review.html?sid=6177870


There is already a reported workaround for the bug. You have to hold "A" from the console when starting the game, I believe. I'll see if I can find where I read the solution and a patch is being worked on. I'll be passing on the game as this is a series that I usually only buy once every 3 or so years and I have last year's version on the PC.

[spleen1015]

This rubberband AI bullshit is enough to make the game unplayable to me.

NBA Jam catchup code all over again.

[MizzouRah]

Whenever I see MBBFAN in a thread I always wish he used spoiler tags. He just loves to spew his anti-360 crap time after time after time after time after time after time after Pumpy's taint after time after time....

I'll skip Tiger again this year though due to this "rubberband AI". TP Golf (Gary's game for me this year).

[Pumpy Tudors]

Shot!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Whenever I see MBBFAN in a thread I always wish he used spoiler tags. He just loves to spew his anti-360 crap time after time after time after time after time after time after Pumpy's taint after time after time....

I'll skip Tiger again this year though due to this "rubberband AI". TP Golf (Gary's game for me this year).

So I now should avoid posting any news about possible game killers only on the 360 version? I assume that posting a warning if it were for a PS3 game is OK? Good lord, man. I was just trying to let people know that might not be aware. You can be sure I'd want to know if there was a similar problem with the PS3 version. Don't blame me that EA can't develop a game that doesn't function correctly.

EF27 - Thanks for the update.

[Radii]

Don't blame me that EA can't develop a game that doesn't function correctly.


I'm going to regret getting involved in this, I already know it. If you could complete a single post without bashing EA your posts might be worth reading. I really couldn't care less about the console wars but at this point your posts in EA threads have about the same level of credibility as jbmagic's posts about the raiders, or IMTG's posts bashing Oklahoma, just so incredibly silly and biased that even if you're right its not worth reading.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'm going to regret getting involved in this, I already know it. If you could complete a single post without bashing EA your posts might be worth reading. I really couldn't care less about the console wars but at this point your posts in EA threads have about the same level of credibility as jbmagic's posts about the raiders, or IMTG's posts bashing Oklahoma, just so incredibly silly and biased that even if you're right its not worth reading.

If you think a game that has a game crashing bug on a console is anything other than unacceptable, then we don't have a whole lot to discuss. That's a non-starter IMO.

[rkmsuf]

Don't blame me that EA can't develop a game that doesn't function correctly.


So every game functions correctly!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

So every game functions correctly!

Obviously not. If it crashes, it ain't working.

[rkmsuf]

Obviously not. If it crashes, it ain't working.

But if EA can't develop a game that doesn't function right it must be someone else's fault.


Oh shi. Maybe you made a grammatical error.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

But if EA can't develop a game that doesn't function right it must be someone else's fault.

Oh shi. Maybe you made a grammatical error.

People in Missouri don't make grammar errors. We speak white-trash English. It's an acquired taste for some. :)

[MizzouRah]

So I now should avoid posting any news about possible game killers only on the 360 version? I assume that posting a warning if it were for a PS3 game is OK? Good lord, man. I was just trying to let people know that might not be aware. You can be sure I'd want to know if there was a similar problem with the PS3 version. Don't blame me that EA can't develop a game that doesn't function correctly.

EF27 - Thanks for the update.

Let's just say if there was a crash in the ps3 version, you wouldn't spill it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Let's just say if there was a crash in the ps3 version, you wouldn't spill it.

That's simply not true. If the PS3 version had a major problem, I'd post it just the same. There's nothing that pisses me off more than developers who simply fail to do their job and then charge me $60 with no chance for return. If they want my $60, they better earn it.

[Radii]

If you think a game that has a game crashing bug on a console is anything other than unacceptable, then we don't have a whole lot to discuss. That's a non-starter IMO.

I was actually commenting on the fact that you found it necessary to take a dig EA overall for the lack of new features while reporting a crash problem.


I won't be buying this game entirely because of the 'rubber band' logic. It kills the natural character progression that I would want to experience in tournaments. I also miss Links a lot :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I was actually commenting on the fact that you found it necessary to take a dig EA overall for the lack of new features while reporting a crash problem.

I won't be buying this game entirely because of the 'rubber band' logic. It kills the natural character progression that I would want to experience in tournaments. I also miss Links a lot :)

I was just restating the reviewer's opinion, though I did make the 'EA trademark' comment. It's obviously something that seems to come up on nearly every EA Sports release at this point.

Links is an excellent game. Played it at a friend's house last year and really had a lot of fun.

[spleen1015]

I traded SimCity 4 to someone on this board for 18 versions of Links and 743 courses. I don't remember who it was.

[BrianD]

If you think a game that has a game crashing bug on a console is anything other than unacceptable, then we don't have a whole lot to discuss. That's a non-starter IMO.

Actually, I think it was the comment about it being EA's trademark that there was little improvement from last year that got him. We get that you don't like EA. Anybody who has played EA games realizes that there is very little improvement in gameplay from year to year. Your point has been made and understood, so taking the frequent pot-shots is no longer necessary.

[BrianD]

Anyone know what or how many courses are in the PC version?

14 courses in all, Cog Hill, Doral, East Lake Golf Club, Firestone, Harbor Town, St. Andrews, Pebble Beach, The Riviera, The Palmer Course at the K Club, Moonah at the National Golf Club, The Ocean Course at Kiawah, TPC Boston, TPC Sawgrass, and Westchester.

[BrianD]

So checking out TW08 on the PC, I've already knocked in one 5-wood from about 175 yards for an eagle. I'm hoping this was a fluke and it isn't as easy to do in this game as on the consoles. This feat was accomplished in my first day playing with a golfer having about 10/400 skill points.

[MizzouRah]

So checking out TW08 on the PC, I've already knocked in one 5-wood from about 175 yards for an eagle. I'm hoping this was a fluke and it isn't as easy to do in this game as on the consoles. This feat was accomplished in my first day playing with a golfer having about 10/400 skill points.

Welcome to Tiger Woods!

[Schmidty]

Welcome to Tiger Woods!

You're actually irritating me now. You're getting to Mizzou B-ball fan levels with regard to the game. Don't like the game? Don't click on the thread.

[MizzouRah]

You're actually irritating Pumpy's taint now. You're getting to Mizzou B-ball fan levels with regard to the game. Don't like Pumpy's taint? Don't click on the thread.

Thanks Dad. This isn't the "feel good" Tiger Woods thread. If you don't like my opinions, skip over them. (this coming from a guy who once said I say good things about every game? lol)

I honestly wish they would add some challenge to this game. I understand the demo is on rookie, but it just gets boring knocking in these great shots more than it should happen.

Edit: and this "rubber band AI" is a game killer for me. :(

[BrianD]

Edit: and this "rubber band AI" is a game killer for me. :(

Do we know if this exists on the PC as well? I haven't played a tournament yet.

[MizzouRah]

Do we know if this exists on the PC as well? I haven't played a tournament yet.

Ask Schmidty.

[MizzouRah]

I played the demo a few more times and I will say, even though I'm not sure even at higher levels it will be a challenge, it's fun to play. The controls are definitely improved from previous versions.

I might pick it up used at some point, as it will be fun to play against friends.

[Schmidty]

(this coming from a guy who once said I say good things about every game? lol)

I don't remember saying that, but if you say so.

[MizzouRah]

I don't remember saying that, but if you say so.

Relax Schmidty.. glad you like it. It has its moments, even a short 3 hole demo, I just wish they had competition like NHL and NBA.

[Phototropic]

I'd be tempted to offer the game for free to anyone who can shoot par on Tour Pro their first time. I still haven't broken 80.

[Schmidty]

Relax Schmidty.. glad you like it. It has its moments, even a short 3 hole demo, I just wish they had competition like NHL and NBA.

I'm very relaxed.

I just had a mojito and a horse tranquilizer, while watching "Best of Joy of Painting", so I'm semi-comatose. Fire away.

[Capital]

14 courses in all, Cog Hill, Doral, East Lake Golf Club, Firestone, Harbor Town, St. Andrews, Pebble Beach, The Riviera, The Palmer Course at the K Club, Moonah at the National Golf Club, The Ocean Course at Kiawah, TPC Boston, TPC Sawgrass, and Westchester.

Thank you for posting the course list. It's not a bad list.

[BrianD]

Now that I've played the PC version a bit more, I have to say that I think I am a fan. I'm still shooting plenty of pars with my low-skill golfer, but I'm not shooting crazy scores. I like the fact that you can't control the spin while the ball is in the air, and I like the ball physics. I've seen balls come nearly to a stop only to crest a hill and accelerate down the other side. That seems quite different.

One thing I'm not a big fan of is that I can't seem to find a way to get a putting grid to extend beyond about 10 feel from my ball. Without getting a grid for the whole way, there is no way to try to line up the putt. I have to hope that there is a consistent break for the whole length of the putt which is almost never the case.

[Capital]

BrianD, if I remember correctly, the grid is removed completely as your golfer progresses. So, that may actually help you get used to it.

If I decide to pick it up, it will definitely be for the PC so I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the game. One question, in the PGA tour mode, is there a way to play 1 round Tourneys? It avoids the RubberAI issue and I can move through seasons faster. I'm actually a fan of 2 rounds - as 4 on the same course somewhat bores me.

[BrianD]

BrianD, if I remember correctly, the grid is removed completely as your golfer progresses. So, that may actually help you get used to it.

If I decide to pick it up, it will definitely be for the PC so I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the game. One question, in the PGA tour mode, is there a way to play 1 round Tourneys? It avoids the RubberAI issue and I can move through seasons faster. I'm actually a fan of 2 rounds - as 4 on the same course somewhat bores me.

The grid is removed completely? As it there will eventually be no grid? How would a person read a putt then? If they made it so the grid extended and putting skill was gained, I could see that working well. If getting better at putting meant being able to see a bigger grid and read longer putts, I'd give EA huge credit for a very good idea.

I still haven't played a tour match yet. I should really do that soon so I can answer questions about it. I was afraid of hurting my golfer if I jumped into it too soon, but I'll make a test guy to see what it is like.

[JS19]

Started playing the game a week or so ago. I started a career mode and am about 5 tournaments in. As I'm sure you guys know, after each round the ratings bars are adjusted. My question is, is there a way to gain points in the "potential" portion of the bar. For example, lets say my spin skill is at 10 but the bar is up to 25 in potential(not sure if there are actual numbers used on the screen, just using them as an example), is there a way for me to realize the rest of that potential or do I just keep playing and it eventually fills itself in?

[BigDPW]

Been awhile but I think once you cross certain thresholds in your career (noted by the lines that go up and down along the ratings screen) you can attain actual ratings above 25-50-75 etc... to fulfill that potential you are earning.

I forget the names of the thresholds but they may be on that screen or at least the 1st one (amateur???)

[mrsimperless]

I spent a lot of time at or near the top of the golden tee golf (PC) ladder. Ahhh, those were the days. People finally figured out how to edit the holes and make some crazy slopes on the greens and that finally ruined it for me.