Is anybody else giddy...

[st.cronin]

For the start of college football season? It's less than 48 hours away.

[Logan]

My tailgate begins at noon on Thursday :).

[dawgfan]

I can't wait - very anxious to see how my Huskies fare in the Carrier Dome Friday night. Very highly touted RS-Fr QB Jake Locker makes his debut for the UW, and Ty's seat is starting to get a little warm as he begins his 3rd season with the Huskies.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm very excited. Memphis and Tulane don't give me a lot of hope this year, but I'm hoping to find a radio broadcast of Seton Hill's visit to Slippery Rock on Thursday night, and I'll be at SHU's home opener on September 8 vs. Walsh.

Yay Division II!

[sterlingice]

Kansas - Central Michigan! It's like Div II :D

SI

[st.cronin]

Washington State @ Wisconsin is the game I'm looking forward to watching this weekend. I don't know much about the Cougars, but they play in the Pac 10 and they're not Stanford so they're probably pretty good.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii is gonna score 100!

[TroyF]

2 biggies for me. CSU vs. CU (I honestly don't care who wins. A fan of CU, but they suck so if CSU pulls it off, good for them)

OkState at GA. Gotta cheer for the Cowboys, but I don't think they'll have the defense to pull it off.

I'm just happy football is back. woo hoo.

[Toddzilla]

Virginia Tech opens on the 1st at home v. ECU, and there won't be a dry eye in the house prior to kickoff. You think Lane Stadium is loud? That's nothing compared to what it will be when Enter Sandman starts playing and the Hokies run out in (rumored) black uni's . VPI may hang a hundred on 'em.

[VPI97]

That's nothing compared to what it will be when Enter Sandman starts playing and the Hokies run out in (rumored) black uni's.

Wow. That may be too much for anyone to stay composed.

[path12]

The best part is that I'm going to be in Vegas. Sports book, here I come!

[Butter]

I love this time of year. You never know what the new season will bring. Last year, it's Rutgers. This year, who knows? Lot of good early season September matchups this year, it seems.

[George]

Another one here who can't wait for the season to get started. :cool:

[wade moore]

Delaware at W&M Thursday night baby to open the inaugural season of the CAA conference - w00t!

What? No one else cares about I-AA? Damn.

[Lathum]

I can't wait for RU to destroy Buffalo.

[Dr. Sak]

I cant wait. I have my season tickets to Penn State plus I plan on going on the road to see them play Michigan and Michigan State.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Mizzou starts off the season against Illinois in St. Louis. MU has a tough non-conference schedule. Would love to hang a ton of points on that defense and get the season started the right way. Pretty sure the crowd will be a pro-MU crowd as there are division championship expectations for Mizzou.

[Passacaglia]

Michigan takes on Appalachian State. I'll be out of town, so probably not missing much.

[Logan]

My office picked a fantastic day to have an optional company picnic. Don't even have to burn a vacation day to get to my tailgate early tomorrow.

[Dr. Sak]

Michigan takes on Appalachian State. I'll be out of town, so probably not missing much.

They are the defending Division 1-aa champions!!!

[cartman]

This is the most wonderful time of the year.

[Passacaglia]

They are the defending Division 1-aa champions!!!

Yes, they are. That still doesn't worry me.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Michigan takes on Appalachian State. I'll be out of town, so probably not missing much.

Ditto. I will be out of town (heading "Up North") and I also do not have access to the Big Ten Network. I will probably only catch the Flordia State-Clemson game. I am a bit disappointed that it's not Florida State-Miami. I've enjoyed watching what has been pretty much the worst college football game -- between two premiere programs -- in each of the last two years. Gawd. Awful.

I hate the Big Ten Network, by the way. Their spat with Comcast is ridiculous. They have a wildly over-inflated sense of their network's appeal. It does not belong on expanded-basic cable; it belongs as part of the sports package. End of argument.

[st.cronin]

I honestly don't understand why teams like Michigan schedule teams like App. State.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I honestly don't understand why teams like Michigan schedule teams like App. State.

I am not sure how this one came about either. It could be that App. State wanted the match-up to get their name out there. If that's the case, then it's working, as I had never heard of App. State before they showed up on Michigan's schedule.

[st.cronin]

I am not sure how this one came about either. It could be that App. State wanted the match-up to get their name out there. If that's the case, then it's working, as I had never heard of App. State before they showed up on Michigan's schedule.

Yes, its very easy to figure out why App. State would want this game. What's more puzzling is why Michigan would want this game.

[Fighter of Foo]

I hate college football. So to answer the original question, no.

[Logan]

Damn near every team plays one AA matchup. You have to fill out your schedule in some way.

I bet they put out the offer to let almost anyone come in and play. But no one will take a sure loss without getting Michigan into their stadium as their one huge high-profile opponent to allow a sellout of season tickets. And Michigan has the ability to pick and choose who they will travel to. That's how we end up with teams like Buffalo who will play anyone anywhere for a payday.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yes, its very easy to figure out why App. State would want this game. What's more puzzling is why Michigan would want this game.

Because we're a kind, benevolent people always willing to help out the "little guy".

Michigan probably doesn't want this game, but sometimes you have think of someone other than yourself. That's The Michigan Way.

[Phototropic]

I can't wait. I'm leaving Friday for the Marshall/Miami game.

[wade moore]

There is a reason for the I-A teams to play I-AA teams. First of all, I think that I-AA teams now count towards bowl eligibility (I think 1 game a year?) - I'd have to look that up though. In addition, they consider it a "tune-up" game - as in they get essentially a pre-season game. Usually you see these games as one of the first couple of games for the I-A team of the season.

I find it weird that W&M is going down to Blacksburg to play VA Tech all of the way out on September 22nd though.

[vex]

Damn near every team plays one AA matchup. You have to fill out your schedule in some way.

Not really.

[st.cronin]

Damn near every team plays one AA matchup.

Actually, only a few teams have scheduled aa teams this year. Looking very quickly at the schedules for these schools shows no aa teams:

Notre Dame
USC
UCLA
California
Nebraska
Georgia
Tennessee
Penn State
Miami FL

Don't you think one of the Big East teams might be interested in playing Michigan? Connecticut, or Cincinatti., or even South Florida?

[larrymcg421]

There is a reason for the I-A teams to play I-AA teams. First of all, I think that I-AA teams now count towards bowl eligibility (I think 1 game a year?) - I'd have to look that up though.


I think you can count 1 I-AA win every 5 years towards bowl eligibility.

[st.cronin]

I think you can count 1 I-AA win every 5 years towards bowl eligibility.

So the argument is that Michigan is worried about being bowl-eligible? :confused:

[Dr. Sak]

Yes, its very easy to figure out why App. State would want this game. What's more puzzling is why Michigan would want this game.

I can think of 111,000 x ($cost of ticket) reasons why. Subtract out the $425,000 pay out (give or take) and thats why Michigan wants this. Most bigger schools have their entire athletic budget funded by their football program.

[wade moore]

So the argument is that Michigan is worried about being bowl-eligible? :confused:

No. Again, that's just a piece of it.

1) Warm-up game
2) A "guranteed" win
3) Money
4) Extra Home Game
5) Sort of like 1, but gives some game experience specifically to new starters before facing a "real" team

[M GO BLUE!!!]

My mom decided to come to town this weekend. She is not a football fan. Should be a fun visit for her! :D

[VPI97]

I find it weird that W&M is going down to Blacksburg to play VA Tech all of the way out on September 22nd though.

VT makes a point to play an in-state I-AA team every five years so that the appearance money can go to a Virginia school that can use it.

As for the Mich vs Appy State game, it's all about money. In a good way, IMO. Michigan (and other 'big schools') can make 3-4 million from a single home game, so having a minimum of seven home games on the schedule is always a priority. As for the Appy State point of view, I would guarentee that the appearance money they receive from Michigan is far more than what they would make from a home game of their own. Heck, for some schools, one game like that can fund their entire athletic department. It's a win-win scenario for both schools...

[wade moore]

VT makes a point to play an in-state I-AA team every five years so that the appearance money can go to a Virginia school that can use it.

I wasn't questioning them playing W&M, just the timing of it.. I was surprised it wasn't this week (although i think W&M would have rejected this week) or next...


And certainly W&M is one of those that basically funds at least the football program almost entirely off of the I-A game it plays each year (and private donations).

I-AA football outside of I think it's 3 or 4 teams is a money losing venture, I don't think most people know that.

[Passacaglia]

It does seem strange. While we usually make our living off MAC schools, I can't ever remember Michigan playing a I-AA school. Maybe after the Ball State game, we were afraid of playing two MAC schools in a season again?

[VPI97]

I wasn't questioning them playing W&M, just the timing of it.. I was surprised it wasn't this week (although i think W&M would have rejected this week) or next...
Strictly a timing issue. Given that this season was marked as a 'play a small Virginia school year', we would rather play JMU or W&M or VMI at an unusual place on the schedule than play anyone else.

[wade moore]

Strictly a timing issue. Given that this season was marked as a 'play a small Virginia school year', we would rather play JMU or W&M or VMI at an unusual place on the schedule than play anyone else.


Good god, WE beat VMI by 3 or 4 TD's a year at minimum ;)..

[st.cronin]

So, to sum up, the upside for Michigan, one of the wealthiest schools in the country, is $. The downside is that people tease you about your ludicrous schedule, and if you are one of multiple 11-1 schools, you (probably) don't get to play in the national championship.

[Pumpy Tudors]

You I-A and I-AA guys can suck it! Seton Hill for life! http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/seton_hill.gif

Thursday 8/30 (7:00pm ET): at Slippery Rock http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/slippery_rock.gif
Saturday 9/8 (2:00pm ET): Walsh http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/walsh.gif
Saturday 9/22 (2:00pm ET): Glenville State http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/glenville_state
Saturday 9/29 (1:00pm ET): at Shepherd http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/shepherd.gif

Saturday 10/6 (6:00pm ET) (HOMECOMING - first home night game in SHU history): West Virginia Wesleyan http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/wv_wesleyan.gif
Saturday 10/13 (1:30pm ET): at West Virginia State http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/wv_state.gif
Saturday 10/20 (1:00pm ET): Charleston http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/charleston.gif
Saturday 10/27 (1:00pm ET): at Concord http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/concord.gif
Saturday 11/3 (1:00pm ET): Fairmont State http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/fairmont_state.gif
Saturday 11/10: (1:00pm): at West Liberty http://www.twyst.org/~pumpy/images/helmets/west_liberty.gif

GO GRIFFINS!

[Passacaglia]

So, to sum up, the upside for Michigan, one of the wealthiest schools in the country, is $. The downside is that people tease you about your ludicrous schedule, and if you are one of multiple 11-1 schools, you (probably) don't get to play in the national championship.

Is that the case? I'm not sure how the BCS factors in 1-AA schools anymore. Last I knew, you got their losses factored into your SOS, but not their wins, or something like that.

Anyway, we were one of multiple 11-1 schools last year, and didn't get to play for the national championship, so what the hey.

[Swaggs]

Actually, only a few teams have scheduled aa teams this year. Looking very quickly at the schedules for these schools shows no aa teams:

Notre Dame
USC
UCLA
California
Nebraska
Georgia
Tennessee
Penn State
Miami FL

Don't you think one of the Big East teams might be interested in playing Michigan? Connecticut, or Cincinatti., or even South Florida?


A Big East team could certainly benefit from play at Michigan, but a BCS conference (insert obligatory BE joke, if needed) school goes down a slippery slope when they start accepting one-and-done or 2-for-1 offers, even against major programs like Michigan or USC or ND. Setting the precendence that you will play an away game without a home game in return or give a 2-for-1 affects negotiations when you are trying to get other BCS programs to agree to 1-for-1s.

[Swaggs]

Is that the case? I'm not sure how the BCS factors in 1-AA schools anymore. Last I knew, you got their losses factored into your SOS, but not their wins, or something like that.

Anyway, we were one of multiple 11-1 schools last year, and didn't get to play for the national championship, so what the hey.


I'm pretty sure the BCS doesn't factor in 1-AA schools in its computer rankings and I'm guessing a team that is capable of losing to a 1-AA school, even though there are a handful of those types of upsets each year, would have a tough enough time overcoming a loss to one in the human polls, that it really isn't a factor.

[Logan]

Actually, only a few teams have scheduled aa teams this year. Looking very quickly at the schedules for these schools shows no aa teams:

Notre Dame
USC
UCLA
California
Nebraska
Georgia
Tennessee
Penn State
Miami FL

My exaggeration of "damn near every team" is almost as bad as your "only a few teams." Here's my quick find:

- Obviously, #5 Michigan vs. App St.
- #6 Florida is playing Western Kentucky, a I-AA team last year that is now a provisional I-A.
- #7 Wisconsin vs. The Citadel
- #9 VT vs. W&M
- #10 Louisville plays Murray St
- #11 Ohio State plays Youngstown St
- #13 Georgia vs. Western Carolina (you missed this one)
- #16 Rutgers takes on Norfolk St as our Homecoming
- #18 Auburn plays Tennessee Tech
- #21 Arkansas plays Tenn-Chat
- #23 Hawaii plays two I-AA teams in Northern Colorado and Charleston Southern
- #24 Boise State vs. Weber St.
- #25 Texas A&M plays Montana St.

That's 13 teams, or 52% of the preseason top 25. Overall, the BCS schools will play 40 games against I-AA teams this year, while the non-BCS conferences will play an additional 37 games. That's up a game from last year's 76 total.

Info here (http://www.star-telegram.com/college_sports/story/200111.html).

Don't you think one of the Big East teams might be interested in playing Michigan? Connecticut, or Cincinatti., or even South Florida?

Sure they would. If they wanted to return the favor by playing a game in Cincinnatti or Storrs. Tampa is a possibility because they could have potential recruits in the area.

[Schmidty]

In response to the original post in this thread: I am a Michigan State Spartan fan. What do you think?

[Toddzilla]

Wow. That may be too much for anyone to stay composed.No kidding. Those jerseys would be gorgeous, too. black with white numbers, outlined in maroon and orange - no names on the back. They could sell them in the bookstore for charity.

[Karlifornia]

Stanford will probably play a boring game against UCLA. I don't think they'll get horrifically massacred, but rather one of those dreary 27-7 games.

[korme]

Go Bearcats/Buckeyes.

Q for SkyDog or any GA fan: Is this Thomas Brown's senior year, is he still the starting HB?

[VPI97]

No kidding. Those jerseys would be gorgeous, too. black with white numbers, outlined in maroon and orange - no names on the back. They could sell them in the bookstore for charity.

BTW, have you seen this?


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[TroyF]

So, to sum up, the upside for Michigan, one of the wealthiest schools in the country, is $. The downside is that people tease you about your ludicrous schedule, and if you are one of multiple 11-1 schools, you (probably) don't get to play in the national championship.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying Michigan has a ludicrous schedule. They'll play both Oregon and Notre Dame.

It's really only an issue to me when I see four really horrible teams on the schedule. There ae a lot of teams with garbage on their schedule. Penn St. and Ohio St. aren't exactly playing murderer's row before conference starts.

[Poli]

Shoot, I'd buy a black VT jersey for charity.

And yes, I'm looking forward to Saturday. I have my buddy Valerie coming in this weekend from Chicago, as she announced to me two days ago.
She asked, "What are we going to do?"

I said, "We can do whatever, but I'm not missing the Vols game."

[Poli]

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying Michigan has a ludicrous schedule. They'll play both Oregon and Notre Dame.

It's really only an issue to me when I see four really horrible teams on the schedule. There ae a lot of teams with garbage on their schedule. Penn St. and Ohio St. aren't exactly playing murderer's row before conference starts.


I caught your hidden reference to me.

[Logan]

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying Michigan has a ludicrous schedule. They'll play both Oregon and Notre Dame.

It's really only an issue to me when I see four really horrible teams on the schedule. There ae a lot of teams with garbage on their schedule. Penn St. and Ohio St. aren't exactly playing murderer's row before conference starts.

I'll give the Rutgers' opinion on this.

First, disadvantage #1 with the Big East right now is it's size, or lack thereof. With only 7 conference games, you need to fill 5 more slots. That's why pretty much every BE team plays a I-AA. It's hard enough getting just 4 slots filled by decent non-conference teams.

Our OOC schedule this year is Buffalo, Navy, Norfolk St (AA), Maryland, and Army (the only one on the road). Now, we've traditionally played the service academies so that probably won't change much, although it'll probably go down to one per year. The Maryland game should be fun since we recruit against each other and there's a ton of Jersey people that go down to school there. Although it did look a lot more exciting last year when they were 8-2 after beating Miami. But yeah, it's not very daunting.

Of course, this schedule was made years in advance when the team was terrible. So the time is now to start bulking up future years. Unfortunately, major programs only want to play us at Giants Stadium, which would allow their fans to get a large number of tickets and would remove a home game from our schedule, which doesn't please season ticket holders. So basically, we have work to do.

[Kodos]

Go Hoosiers! Take some dem Sycamores!

[Eaglesfan27]

This is the most wonderful time of the year.

Yes, it is. As fun as it has been to talk smack to my LSU co-workers, it will be great to finally see USC in action.

[sterlingice]

This is the most wonderful time of the year.

What? It's Spring Training already? I didn't think this season was over yet.

SI

[sterlingice]

So, to sum up, the upside for Michigan, one of the wealthiest schools in the country, is $. The downside is that people tease you about your ludicrous schedule, and if you are one of multiple 11-1 schools, you (probably) don't get to play in the national championship.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying Michigan has a ludicrous schedule. They'll play both Oregon and Notre Dame.

It's really only an issue to me when I see four really horrible teams on the schedule. There ae a lot of teams with garbage on their schedule. Penn St. and Ohio St. aren't exactly playing murderer's row before conference starts.

Troy's right. One rummy doesn't your schedule make. I didn't see Western Carolina keeping Florida out of the title game last year. The risk of facing a possible loss every week just isn't worth the possible reward if you run the table.

Plus, it is nice to get a "preseason" game under your belt to get some of those opening game jitters out of the way.

SI

[Wolfpack]

Oh, heck yeah. Even in spite of coming off a 3-9 disaster, just the mere fact that I'm back in the Triangle in time for football season has me pumped. I don't know when I'll be able to make it out to Carter-Finley for a game (season tickets sold out), but at least I won't have to labor through Illinois-Indiana-type Big 10 matchups overriding the national game on ABC anymore.

Oh, and one of those three wins was a 23-10 win over the defending national champs from App State, so I don't think the Michigan folks have a whole lot to worry about. I think Appy will play hard and fired up for a half just because of the opportunity to play at Michigan Stadium, but the Wolverines should still end up smoking them.

[wade moore]

Not that I think Appy St. will win, but they won the I-AA title last year with a spectacular Freshman QB.. unlike the I-A level, that means he'll stick around which could mean (relatively speaking) some amazing things from Appy St.

Edit: And he's not even the best offensive weapon on the team. RB Kevin Richardson is on the Payton award watch list.

[wade moore]

Not that I think Appy St. will win, but they won the I-AA title last year with a spectacular Freshman QB.. unlike the I-A level, that means he'll stick around which could mean (relatively speaking) some amazing things from Appy St.

Edit: And he's not even the best offensive weapon on the team. RB Kevin Richardson is on the Payton award watch list.


Bumping for prosperity's sake. I tried to warn everyone.

[Poli]

I was bummed Va Tech didn't come out in the black uniforms.

[highfiveoh]

Bumping for prosperity's sake. I tried to warn everyone.

So to summarize, you didn't think Appalachian State would win, but they did. What am I missing? :confused:

[wade moore]

So to summarize, you didn't think Appalachian State would win, but they did. What am I missing? :confused:

Hah. Yeah, I didn't think they would win - but I said that everyone was underestimating just how good they were and they might do some amazing things that people didn't think they could do.

One of those things just happens to be block two FG's and win.

[Wolfpack]

Oh, heck yeah. Even in spite of coming off a 3-9 disaster, just the mere fact that I'm back in the Triangle in time for football season has me pumped. I don't know when I'll be able to make it out to Carter-Finley for a game (season tickets sold out), but at least I won't have to labor through Illinois-Indiana-type Big 10 matchups overriding the national game on ABC anymore.

Oh, and one of those three wins was a 23-10 win over the defending national champs from App State, so I don't think the Michigan folks have a whole lot to worry about. I think Appy will play hard and fired up for a half just because of the opportunity to play at Michigan Stadium, but the Wolverines should still end up smoking them.

Um...well...0-for-2 on the day. *sigh*

[korme]

I am not sure how this one came about either. It could be that App. State wanted the match-up to get their name out there. If that's the case, then it's working, as I had never heard of App. State before they showed up on Michigan's schedule.

And now I'm sure you'll never forget them :cool: