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CleBrownsfan
09-11-2007, 12:34 PM
Frye Traded to Seattle (http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=122520&article=2624000)
The Browns have traded quarterback Charlie Frye to the Seattle Seahwaks to make room on the roster for veteran Ken Dorsey.
The Browns will get a second day draft (6th round) in return for the one-time University of Akron starter.
If they couldn't trade him, the Browns had planned to cut Frye.
Dorsey was cut ten days before the season began. But after Frye’s dismal performance on Sunday against the Steelers, the decision was made to eliminate Frye.
In just over a quarter of play on Sunday against the Steelers, Frye was 4-of-10 for 34 yards and 1 INT. Frye was also sacked five times before giving way to Derek Anderson early in the second quarter.
No word yet from the Browns on who will start Sunday against the Bengals, but the fans on Sunday were chanting for rookie Brady Quinn.
The Seahawks have been in the market for a backup quarterback, which will free them up to use Seneca Wallace in other positions around the field.
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rkmsuf
09-11-2007, 12:36 PM
Starter was benched after one quarter of the first game of the year. That has to be some kind of record.
ISiddiqui
09-11-2007, 12:37 PM
OUCH....
Not only was the starter benched after one quarter of the first game of the year, he was so bad he was traded!
Hello, Mr. Quinn, your table is waiting.
larrymcg421
09-11-2007, 12:38 PM
Well, this doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm glad Dorsey's got a roster spot.
AlexB
09-11-2007, 12:39 PM
Goes from starter to packing up his locker in a bin bag within 15 minutes! Although it's funny, what does this say about Romeo Crennel's evaluation of talent?
If I was the GM I'd be thinking how can my coach bin 9 months of preparation within 15 minutes, or if Frye really is terrible, how come he didn't sport the fact that the guy was this bad in training camps and pre-season?
rkmsuf
09-11-2007, 12:40 PM
OUCH....
Not only was the starter benched after one quarter of the first game of the year, he was so bad he was traded!
Hello, Mr. Quinn, your table is waiting.
Ponderous how he won the job. That Anderson guy must be ultra impressive.
Romeo is doing a heck of a job over there!
stevew
09-11-2007, 12:41 PM
This is really depressing news.
Pyser
09-11-2007, 12:42 PM
quinns career is doomed.
Doug5984
09-11-2007, 12:46 PM
Goes from starter to packing up his locker in a bin bag within 15 minutes! Although it's funny, what does this say about Romeo Crennel's evaluation of talent?
If I was the GM I'd be thinking how can my coach bin 9 months of preparation within 15 minutes, or if Frye really is terrible, how come he didn't sport the fact that the guy was this bad in training camps and pre-season?
I'm with you on this one, you get to watch Fry all last year, all offseason, and all preseason, and you can't figure out he is not any good? Not only that, but you only give him 1 quarter... Obviously, if you made him the starter you saw something you liked in training camp, maybe he had a bad quarter, but didn't even get a change to get going to even it out over the course of a game.
Something doesn't seem right here.
rkmsuf
09-11-2007, 12:47 PM
Charlie Frye looking good in preseason.
korme
09-11-2007, 12:50 PM
I just read on my Cincinnati blog that Cleveland was either going to shop him or cut him... that's a little extreme, I thought. One bad showing in Week 1... and bam, traded.
I think Frye didn't exactly get a fair shake... he may never be a true #1 but I'd rather have him on my team than a Kyle Boller.
CleBrownsfan
09-11-2007, 12:53 PM
quinns career is doomed.
If they put in Quinn now their f'n idiots. Throw Anderson out there until the bye week (week 6). Quinn can then start his NFL career with St Louis with Seattle, Pitt, Balt, Hou, Ari, NYJ, Buf, Cinci, & the 49'ers to follow.
spleen1015
09-11-2007, 12:54 PM
The Cleveland Browns just got worse. Is that possible?
Hammer755
09-11-2007, 12:55 PM
As a recovering Browns fan, the worst part is that Dallas is likely to have the #1 overall pick next April.
spleen1015
09-11-2007, 12:55 PM
Put Quinn out there now! The best QB in the history of the NFL has started every game his team has played since they drafted him.
Toddzilla
09-11-2007, 12:56 PM
Great news for my FOFC alma mater fantasy football team :)
CleBrownsfan
09-11-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm with you on this one, you get to watch Fry all last year, all offseason, and all preseason, and you can't figure out he is not any good? Not only that, but you only give him 1 quarter... Obviously, if you made him the starter you saw something you liked in training camp, maybe he had a bad quarter, but didn't even get a change to get going to even it out over the course of a game.
Something doesn't seem right here.
That's pretty much what everyone is saying around here. I mean - Romeo actually told the media in the pre-season that he was flipping a coin to see who is going to start. I hate to say it 'cause all I want in Cleveland is a coach to stay more than 2-3 years but the fat ass has to go.
korme
09-11-2007, 12:59 PM
Put Quinn out there now! The best QB in the history of the NFL has started every game his team has played since they drafted him.
No, Kitna started all 16 games that 2003 season. ;)
Oh, and can someone inform me of the trade that gave Dallas Cleveland's 1st rounder for 2008?
Travis
09-11-2007, 01:01 PM
I like this deal from the Seattle side (who have also traded Bryce Fisher to the Titans for an as of yet undisclosed pick). Haven't watched Frye a bunch, but from what I've read he's accurate on the short to mid range passes and throws decently on the run and has a lot of confidence in himself. Problems being reading blitzes and holding onto the ball too long as well as the deep ball. If Zorn and Holmgren can help him improve the first two areas of concern, he'll make a very nice backup and allow them to expand Wallace's role on the team (whether that's to be the return man while Hackett is out so they don't risk Burleson there or as a WR, who knows).
For a 6th, even if that's all they could get out of the Titans and they flipped it for Frye, makes them a deeper team all around seeing as how Babin will step into Fisher's spot and supply (hopefully) better pressure. Only worry is that Fisher was one of our better DE's against the run and with Tubbs out, and further subtraction there is just a bit more pressure piled on the shoulders of the rookie Mebane.
chesapeake
09-11-2007, 01:01 PM
I'd be curious to know if Mike Holmgren sees something in Frye that makes him worth trading for or if the Seahawks were simply filling a need since they had only 2 QBs on the roster.
I question whether acquiring Frye will allow them to use Wallace elsewhere -- at least for this season. It will be a couple of months before Frye could possibly understand enough of the offense to qb the team.
Anthony
09-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Jerry Jones was seen doing the pee-pee dance in his office.
Young Drachma
09-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Romeo is burning.
Young Drachma
09-11-2007, 01:05 PM
The Browns traded their second-round pick in 2007 and first-round pick in 2008 to Dallas for their first-round pick in 2007. I just googled browns 2008 1st round pick and got this from Wikipedia.
Young Drachma
09-11-2007, 01:06 PM
That was the pick they used to get Brady Quinn. I just remembered.
Hammer755
09-11-2007, 01:06 PM
No, Kitna started all 16 games that 2003 season. ;)
Oh, and can someone inform me of the trade that gave Dallas Cleveland's 1st rounder for 2008?
Browns get QB Quinn much later than expected (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2852453[/url)
After 20 teams let him slide past in Saturday's NFL draft, the Browns traded their second-round pick (No. 36 overall) and first-round pick in 2008 to Dallas at No. 22 to move up and select Quinn, saving him more embarrassment on a day when he quickly went from desired to forgotten.
korme
09-11-2007, 01:09 PM
Ahh
stevew
09-11-2007, 01:15 PM
Charlie Frye is awful, he's probably not even in the top 96 QB's in the league
spleen1015
09-11-2007, 01:17 PM
Charlie Frye is awful, he's probably not even in the top 96 QB's in the league
Put him on the Patriots and they still win those Super Bowls.
stevew
09-11-2007, 01:20 PM
Eh, he wouldn't know what to do even if he had the other teams signs stolen for him.
Young Drachma
09-11-2007, 01:22 PM
He might be mad, but at least he didn't get released outright.
Honolulu_Blue
09-11-2007, 01:29 PM
Put him on the Patriots and they still win those Super Bowls.
:confused:
Hammer
09-11-2007, 01:32 PM
Can't wait to see Seneca off the lead! :)
albionmoonlight
09-11-2007, 01:37 PM
It is sickening that Browns fans have to pay full price for tickets this season.
spleen1015
09-11-2007, 01:41 PM
It is sickening that Browns fans have to pay full price for tickets this season.
K2 is worth it.
bignej
09-11-2007, 02:52 PM
K2 is worth it.
He downright amazing. Just think what he would be if he had a QB.
I am also a browns fan. I don't understand how they won't just put Quinn in. They say he's not ready but the ones that were led us to that debale on sunday. Frye should get some credit for Roethlisbergers production this weekend. I really wanted to like Frye but I got so scared about what would happen everytime he threw the ball. A 6th for him is a dream come IMO.
Big Fo
09-11-2007, 04:00 PM
Man, what a poorly run organization.
SunDevil
09-11-2007, 04:24 PM
I honestly do not know much about the Brown's front office, but really, when your GM says this about your team, and their past decisions....
At the end of today, by 4 p.m., Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren and William Green could conceivably all be out of the NFL. You talk about setting an organization back on its ear. I’m talking out of the league. That speaks volumes of where we were starting from. You couldn’t take another team out there, knock off four No. 1 picks that you got nothing out of, and say they’re going to go to the playoffs.”
– Phil Savage (Browns GM). By the end of the day, only Warren was still under contract in the NFL
Honestly, they might as well take a fan vote when picking 1st round picks from now on, I mean, starting in 2009 because they already traded their 2008 pick already.
RendeR
09-11-2007, 04:54 PM
I feel bad for Cleveland fans. Those scabs in baltimore keep getting props and doing well when they rightfully should be having that success IN Cleveland.
Did I mention I loath The Ravens and everything they stand for? =)
Mantle2600
09-11-2007, 05:00 PM
I feel bad for Cleveland fans. Those scabs in baltimore keep getting props and doing well when they rightfully should be having that success IN Cleveland.
Did I mention I loath The Ravens and everything they stand for? =)
Dont worry, if they stayed here they would all suck, Ray Lewis would have went away for murder, we would have traded 5 1st round picks to get Boller, etc, etc...
Thats just the way it goes in Cleveland.
Mantle2600
09-11-2007, 05:02 PM
I honestly do not know much about the Brown's front office, but really, when your GM says this about your team, and their past decisions....
Honestly, they might as well take a fan vote when picking 1st round picks from now on, I mean, starting in 2009 because they already traded their 2008 pick already.
Actually the new regime is pretty decent at picking players, but everyone just gets hurt, usually by some freak accident, or they just play like a high school team, only without the coaching.
Danny
09-11-2007, 05:07 PM
Indians are going to the playoffs at least, enjoy that.
path12
09-11-2007, 05:18 PM
I was hoping the Seahawks would pick up Leftwich for the backup.
Chief Rum
09-11-2007, 06:42 PM
I don't understand why it took a whole season, an offseason and the first game of the new season for Browns' management to figure out what I have known from the moment I first heard "Charlie Frye, starting quarterback". Why on Earth do these guys still have jobs?
And then Quinn lights it up in the preseason, too. And they ignore that. Wow.
And yet, they got a sixth rounder from the Seahawks for him. Go figure.
sterlingice
09-11-2007, 07:31 PM
Great news for my FOFC alma mater fantasy football team :)
And puts me (Notre Dame) one injury away from having a starting QB for the first time in the league's history :D
SI
Bearcat729
09-11-2007, 09:56 PM
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/brady_quinn_leads_browns_into_post
September 06, 2007
Brady Quinn Leads Browns Into Post-Preseason
CLEVELAND—Establishing a reputation for quarterback performance that football insiders have called "reasonable," Browns quarterback Brady Quinn silenced his critics and stunned his coaches, teammates, and family by performing competently enough in his limited play during preseason games to put the Cleveland Browns in 2007 post-preseason contention.
"I guess I can only say 'Wow,'" former Miami Dolphins quarterback and current Inside The NFL co-host Dan Marino said Tuesday following the announcement that Cleveland would advance to the regular season, playing the Pittsburgh Steelers in their first game on Sept. 9. "Wow. I think I speak for everyone when I say no one thought Brady Quinn could do it. To see him come into that preseason game against the Lions and just embarrass one of the best auto mechanics to ever play cornerback in the NFL…I admit it, I didn't think he had it in him."
"Quinn seemed possessed, like he was out there playing like it was the last game those other guys would ever play," added Marino, saying Quinn reminded him of a younger version of a quarterback who used to back him up.
In his first-ever preseason start against the Detroit Lions, Quinn defied the extremely low expectations when he did not run out onto the field with his helmet on backwards, trip over the yard lines, line up to take the snap behind a wideout, or attempt to roll the ball down the field towards his receivers.
"I couldn't believe what I was seeing," said Sports Illustrated football writer Peter King. "The conventional wisdom going into that game was that Brady Quinn was a huge mistake on the part of the Browns. But anyone who saw him will tell you he might not be all that big of a mistake after all."
This breathtaking display of basic knowledge of football fundamentals continued in a workmanlike display of quarterbacking against a group of men attempting to make the Lions, as Quinn threw for 81 yards while not falling into any random holes or stepping on any rakes that had been left lying around the field. And in the final game of the preseason, facing a Bears defense that almost certainly contained players who will make Chicago's taxi squad, Quinn threw only a single interception while conspicuously not lighting himself or his teammates on fire or tying his shoelaces together even once.
Predictably, Browns fans were ecstatic at the level of Quinn's performance.
"Mark my words, Brady is going to be one of our quarterbacks of the immediate future," said Ken Fairfield, a Browns preseason-ticket holder who said he would be camping out for regular-season Browns tickets long before they went on sale, if not for the fact they would almost certainly be readily available. "I can't believe people said he wouldn't even be an adequate field general. If what I saw in the second halves of those games wasn't adequate, I don't know what is."
"I'm completely surprised…I always felt that we could count on Quinn to totally blow it, but this is whole different side that we could never imagine," Browns head coach Romeo Crennel said. "I anticipated that he would hand off the ball to the first defensive lineman he saw. I even game-planned for it, keeping a fullback deep in the backfield to tackle him if he started running the wrong way. But then he goes and throws a basic little dump-off pass to Cribbs in the flat and it turns into a touchdown."
"I'm not saying we wouldn't have made it to the regular season without him," said Crennel, "but his play certainly didn't hurt. Which is one hell of a nice surprise, let me tell you."
Charlie Frye has been confirmed as the starter for the Sept. 9 game. Quinn is currently fourth on the depth chart, behind Frye, Derek Anderson, and strong-armed long-snapper Ryan Pontbriand.
Mantle2600
09-11-2007, 10:10 PM
http://www.serioussportsnewsnetwork.com/2007/09/charlie-frye-traded-for-basket-of-fries.html
CLEVELAND AND SEATTLE--In a shocking development, the Cleveland Browns have traded quarterback Charlie Frye to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for a large basket of french fries.
"Once in awhile, you get an offer that you have to really take seriously, no matter who it is for," said Phil Savage. "This was one of those offers. We had a chance to get some real, high quality french fries, and we took that chance, and we're not going to look back."
Frye, who started at quarterback for the Browns last Sunday in a 34-7 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, was 4-for-10 for 34 yards, an interception, and a 10.0 quarterback rating.
Many in the Browns organization think the move was motivated by head coach Romeo Crennel. "Look, it's two birds with one stone for me," Crennel said. "My job becomes a lot easier, what with only having to deal with two quarterbacks, and I also got a beautiful basket of grade A Idaho potato french fries!"
"To be sure, the fries aren't all for Romeo," Savage said, after being notified by rookie quarterback Brady Quinn that Crennel had locked himself in his office and begun to devour the trade bounty. "We'll share the fries."
Mike Holmgren, coach and GM of the Seahawks, indicated that he was very uneasy about getting rid of the fries, but that he felt like it was the best move for his squad right now. "A lot of people are calling me and saying, 'Mike, how can you be sad about this deal? You got a real human quarterback in exchange for some french fries,'" Holmgren told SSNN. "But the bottom line is that there were all different types of fries in that basket, there were crinkle cuts fries, curly-Q fries, cheese fries, those little fake fries that you get out of the vending machine that look like toothpicks, you know what I'm talking about.
"And while we're on the subject," Holmgren continued, "Charlie Frye is a human and he does play the position of quarterback, but it's not exactly like we traded for the next Sean Salisbury here. Charlie Frye has a lot of work to do. Still, I think we have some options."
Quinn, for his part, is excited about the challenge that this trade possesses. "I feel like I have a good chance to compete against this basket of fries, particularly if Romeo continues to devour it," he said. "The fries have a lot of NFL experience, but I have an edge on arm strength and I know the offense a little better. All I want is a shot."
hhiipp
09-12-2007, 03:27 PM
And puts me (Notre Dame) one injury away from having a starting QB for the first time in the league's history :D
SI
If you're saying Notre Dame has never had a starting QB in the NFL, I'm pretty sure there are others, but did you forget about Joe Montana?
lordscarlet
09-12-2007, 03:38 PM
for the first time in the league's history
I believe he means the first time in the alma mater league history.
sterlingice
09-12-2007, 09:29 PM
What he said ^^
And who could forget the Rick Mirer years ;)
SI
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