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Mizzou B-ball fan
09-14-2007, 10:49 AM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/UPDATE/709120468/1003/METRO&imw=Y

Allen Park police find man's body, guillotine in wooded area

Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- A 41-year-old Melvindale man, whose body was discovered Monday, went to extraordinary and bizarre lengths to kill himself by constructing a 7-foot-tall guillotine in a wooded area near Fairlane Green shopping center.

"It was the most deliberate suicide I've seen in my 28 years (as a police officer)," said Dale Covert, deputy chief of Allen Park Police. "It was one of those things where when you saw it, you couldn't help asking yourself, "What the heck?"

Groundskeepers from the shopping center, at Outer and Fairlane drives, discovered the device and the body in a thickly wooded area shortly after 11 a.m. Monday. About a third of the 243 acre former Ford Motor Company landfill is being developed for retail shopping while the remainder is undeveloped green space crisscrossed with trails.

Police, who believe the man had been dead two days, declined to release his name. Covert said the man had lived within walking distance of the spot where he died. Investigators believe the man made numerous trips to carry the wooden and metal parts of his contraption into the woods where he assembled it. Covert said the man didn't leave a note.

"He spent some time doing this," Covert said. "This wasn't a spur of the moment plan."

The machine utilized a "swing arm-type blade," according to police, instead of the more famous falling blade of guillotines used by executioners in France from that nation's revolution in 1792, until the death penalty was outlawed there in 1981. The device had a lever that allowed the man to trigger it himself, Covert said.

Allen Park police and firefighters disassembled the machine after photographing it at the scene. Some of the metal parts, including the blade, were kept as evidence while the wooden parts were to be disposed of because they were soaked in blood and considered a biohazard, Covert said.

Although the device didn't completely decapitate the victim, Covert said he believes the man died instantly from his injuries.

"It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in my life,"Covert said. "It probably didn't quite work the way he planned, but it succeeded in taking his life, probably instantly. I don't believe he suffered."

M GO BLUE!!!
09-14-2007, 11:01 AM
Allen Park would likely be about Lions fans though...

"If the Lions win on Sunday I'll build a guillotine and chop my head off!"

On a positive note, another Detroit suburb is developing a shopping center that will sit half empty!

Maple Leafs
09-14-2007, 11:04 AM
Investigators believe the man made numerous trips to carry the wooden and metal parts of his contraption into the woods where he assembled it. Covert said the man didn't leave a note.
Um, does it occur to anyone that maybe it wasn't suicide?

Kodos
09-14-2007, 11:09 AM
I guess if you're gonna kill yourself, this is about as quick and painless as it gets.

molson
09-14-2007, 11:10 AM
Um, does it occur to anyone that maybe it wasn't suicide?

One would hope so, but I'm assuming the entire investigation isn't described in this one news blurb. Maybe they found tools/parts in his house or whatever.

He's lucky this thing worked. It could have been a really, really bad time for him if his device was slightly off.

cartman
09-14-2007, 11:30 AM
I guess if you're gonna kill yourself, this is about as quick and painless as it gets.

Except for that whole shopping for the raw materials and hours of assembly part. I don't see Norm showing us how to build one of these on New Yankee Workshop.

korme
09-14-2007, 11:38 AM
Seriously though, if you went through the effort, the trials & tribulations of making a bad-ass self-killing guillotine, wouldn't you make sure 100% it would be a clean sweep of your head? How pissed would you be if you pulled the trigger and it only gashed your neck, but enough where it was irrepairable and you had to bleed to death

sterlingice
09-14-2007, 04:33 PM
I figured this was a thread about Lloyd Carr.

SI

I. J. Reilly
09-14-2007, 05:11 PM
This sounds like a serious project, aren’t depressed people supposed to be really lazy and unmotivated. Now I’m a little depressed by the fact that this guy who was so depressed that he fricken killed himself is still twice as industrious as I am.

molson
09-14-2007, 05:17 PM
This sounds like a serious project, aren’t depressed people supposed to be really lazy and unmotivated. Now I’m a little depressed by the fact that this guy who was so depressed that he fricken killed himself is still twice as industrious as I am.

What I've accomplished in the last week or so is FAR less impressive than creating an ultimate killing machine.

Schmidty
09-14-2007, 06:18 PM
This kind of stuff makes me sad. I always wonder what horrific things go on in someone's mind to make them do something like this.

JonInMiddleGA
09-14-2007, 06:29 PM
I figured this was a thread about Lloyd Carr.


+1

M GO BLUE!!!
09-14-2007, 06:34 PM
This kind of stuff makes me sad. I always wonder what horrific things go on in someone's mind to make them do something like this.

I am just happy he used his knowledge and skill to kill only himself. Too often we hear of some idiot killing others before taking him/herself out...

Bubba Wheels
09-14-2007, 08:17 PM
Lots of weird things happening in Michigan lately. Yesterday 2 people were killed out near Fowlerville by a pack of 10 dogs. One was a 91 year old man in his own driveway, the other a 56 yr old women jogger found 100 ft further down the road.

The dogs were owned by a women on a nearby farm who described them as 'friendly.'

Wolfpack
09-14-2007, 09:57 PM
I am just happy he used his knowledge and skill to kill only himself. Too often we hear of some idiot killing others before taking him/herself out...

Which apparently very nearly happened recently... (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296865,00.html)