2007 College Football Week 4 Thread

[larrymcg421]

Didn't see one started yet...

My Miami Hurricanes looking good at halftime. 21-0 lead. Dominating the line on both sides. Kyle Wright is 15-19-176 yards, 1 TD, and 0 picks. Kirby who?

[Noop]

Miami is not playing tonight. We are taking it to Texas A&M.

[Celeval]

ACC pride?

[larrymcg421]

This is the best performance from Miami since 2002.

[Dr. Sak]

This is making Oklahoma look better and better...

[CU Tiger]

This is making Oklahoma look better and better...
+1

Miami looks complete, not a fluky win.
Be interesting to see how the rest of thier season goes.

[CU Tiger]

BTW who coated this ball with sun tan lotion?
No one can hold onto the damn thing

[miami_fan]

Not sure what to make of this one. I am very happy with the way they played but I don't know how much of it is the Canes play, or how overrated A & M was.

[timmynausea]

This is the best performance from Miami since 2002.

That game at Blacksburg in 2005 when VT was ranked #3 or so was more impressive than last night. I bring that up cause that's what I thought of right away watching the Canes last night. It seems like when Miami is motivated, they have usually been pretty awesome. The question, I guess, is why have they seemingly only played motivated a couple of times a year the past few years.

[Atocep]

That game at Blacksburg in 2005 when VT was ranked #3 or so was more impressive than last night. I bring that up cause that's what I thought of right away watching the Canes last night. It seems like when Miami is motivated, they have usually been pretty awesome. The question, I guess, is why have they seemingly only played motivated a couple of times a year the past few years.


I blame Larry Coker. He's may be the nicest guy in the world, but he wasn't cut out to be a head coach. There was no discipline and no fear of him from the players. If they went out and sucked practice wasn't going to change and he wasn't going to chew their asses out for stupid mistakes.

Despite that, I have all the respect in the world for Coker. He truely seemed like he cared about his players. However, he was more of a grandfather than a head coach.

[larrymcg421]

The reason Coker had so much success early on was that he was the opposite of Butch Davis. Davis was a very strict coach who instilled a ton of discipline in his guys. When he left, Coker came in and let the guys loose and they started dominating. The problem was that the younger guys weren't getting any discipline, and you could see that both in the performance and behavior decrease that led to the brawl incidents in his last couple years.


That win over #3 VT in Blacksburg may have been a more impressive win, but what I loved about this one so much was that it was achieved on all sides of the ball. That game was mostly a dominating defensive performance against VT, but this one we did everything - passing, running, defense.

If Shannon does bring the Canes back to elite status, I think people will look at this win as the game that started it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

This is making Oklahoma look better and better...

I think that A&M loss said a lot more about A&M than it did about Oklahoma. Awful embarrassing for the Big 12 for A&M to fall on their face like that on national television.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Newly ranked and #25 Missouri Tigers taking on #14 Illinois State this weekend.

OK, they're ranked in I-AA, but Mizzou plans on avoiding getting Wolverine-d at home.

[sooner333]

I think that A&M loss said a lot more about A&M than it did about Oklahoma. Awful embarrassing for the Big 12 for A&M to fall on their face like that on national television.

I think it says a lot about both. You can beat an athletic defense with solid balance on offense like Oklahoma. You can't beat an athletic defense playing option football (see: Oklahoma 85-87). Oklahoma has solid play both running and passing, and that is anchored by the offensive line. Miami has proven they can beat a solid team that doesn't have the offensive firepower of OU. Not too many teams have the explosive offense that OU does to go along with a solid defense.

[larrymcg421]

It should also be noted that Oklahoma faced a Miami team that started Kirby Freeman, who was one of the worst starting QB's in all of division 1-A. When we brought Kyle Wright in, he brought us back and it was a 21-13 game. Ineplicably, Wright was benched again and it was a blowout.

Now certainly Oklahoma would have still won that game, but it would not have been quite the same blowout if they had faced a Kyle Wright with a game under his belt.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Seton Hill hosts Glenville State this week. Glenville State upset one of the top teams in Division II (Shepherd) last week, so this is not looking good for the Griffins.

WVIAC FOOTBALL!

[JeeberD]

UTEP will almost certainly rebound from their embarrassing loss to NMSU last week with a pasting of that football powerhouse, Texas Southern. I have no clue why this goliath match isn't being televised nationally.

[Dr. Sak]

Tomorrow at 7am I am leaving for the 4.5 hr to the Big House. I hope this is the year the Nittany Lions break the curse.

[Passacaglia]

Tomorrow at 7am I am leaving for the 4.5 hr to the Big House. I hope this is the year the Nittany Lions break the curse.

Lucky you. I don't get to see Michigan play until next week, at Northwestern.

[Karlifornia]

Seton Hill hosts Glenville State this week. Glenville State upset one of the top teams in Division II (Shepherd) last week, so this is not looking good for the Griffins.

WVIAC FOOTBALL!

Go Seton Hill!

[MylesKnight]

Only game in town tonight is #4 Oklahoma visiting Tulsa (well almost, the College of New Jersey is visiting I-AA LaSalle tonight as well).

TU can put up some points, but can they stay with the Sooners? Please keep in mind that a Big 12 South Powerhouse (Texas) paid a visit to a CUSA School (UCF, my Alma Mater) just a few days ago and almost got knocked off.

Tulsa is good... The OU Defense is a little scary though. But this is their first road game of the season.

Predictions?

[vex]

OU 48
Tulsa 13

[Karlifornia]

Boy, OU really has a humdinger of a schedule this year.

EDIT: Forgot they played Miami...I take back my snide remark!

[Huckleberry]

Oklahoma >> Texas
UCF ~= Tulsa

Oklahoma 41
Tulsa 20

(Late meaningless scores)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Mark Schlabach doesn't get it perfect, but I think he does a darned good job writing about Larry Munson's absence from the UGA broadcast booth this weekend for only the second time in the past 42 seasons.

Here's the link (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3029287&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1)for those who haven't seen it yet.

I despise them damned Dawgs, but Munson is a whole different matter. There may have been some technically better (hell, I know there are) but I don't believe any have been more integral to their team or even to an entire state.

And I'll also wish his temporary substitute Scott Howard well in a pretty much impossible situation.

[sooner333]

OU got 'em 62-21. I always love the people who complain about 41 point victories too. Yeah, Tulsa had over 350 in the air...but it's always that way for us against decent spread teams, and the only time we've lost was when we went to Tech in '05.

[timmynausea]

OU got 'em 62-21. I always love the people who complain about 41 point victories too. Yeah, Tulsa had over 350 in the air...but it's always that way for us against decent spread teams, and the only time we've lost was when we went to Tech in '05.

I was definitely impressed by the Oklahoma offense. I knew Tulsa would be able to move the ball some, so that didn't really surprise me. I didn't realize how dominant the Sooner O-line would be, though. There were Tulsa d-lineman and linebackers down hurt (or just worn out) almost every other play in the second half.

[sooner333]

I was definitely impressed by the Oklahoma offense. I knew Tulsa would be able to move the ball some, so that didn't really surprise me. I didn't realize how dominant the Sooner O-line would be, though. There were Tulsa d-lineman and linebackers down hurt (or just worn out) almost every other play in the second half.


The crazy thing is the only senior starters on the offense are Patrick (RB), Zazlaw (FB) and Finley (TE). Finley is one of three TE's that get significant time, though and Zazlaw only plays about half the plays, if that. Although, you can pretty much count on Malcolm Kelly going out early at wideout.

[MylesKnight]

ESPN cross-promotion once again.

I thought the concept of College Gameday was to be at the big game of the day each week, except for those rare circumstances such as Army/Navy a few years back.

Now, the biggest game of the day is South Carolina/LSU, this afternoon from Baton Rouge. But Gameday is set from Tuscaloosa this morning, as UGA/Alabama play tonight on you guessed it, ESPN. No matter that both South Carolina and LSU are higher ranked than either UGA or 'Bama.

If the network wants to promote itself so hard, fine. Just come out and say it though.

Anyway, the $EC has some very solid matchups today... Should be a good one.

Notre Dame, good luck to keeping the 0-for-2007 streak alive. :)

[GrantDawg]

If the network wants to promote itself so hard, fine. Just come out and say it though.



They have. Herbstreet has said it on a number of occasions, and so has Corso. They'll take the biggest games, but if the biggest is "hugely bigger" than a game on the network, then they'll go with a network game. No biggie really.

[RPI-Fan]

I wish, when they're listing what channels/times games are on, they would just say that the game is on CBS, or NBC, or whatever. Very irritating.

[Passacaglia]

Would CBS even let the ESPN crew sit outside the stadium of one of their games, anyway?

[ISiddiqui]

I'm not sure CBS could deny them access to the outside of the stadium.

[Buccaneer]

Go Bulls.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm not sure CBS could deny them access to the outside of the stadium.

Not directly I wouldn't think. But the schools could likely control access based on conference TV agreements and the like.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UVA 14-7 over GT late in the 1st quarter.

edit: Make that 21-7 after what looks like a pick six (gamecast kind of screwed up atm)

[Logan]

ESPN cross-promotion once again.

I thought the concept of College Gameday was to be at the big game of the day each week, except for those rare circumstances such as Army/Navy a few years back.

Now, the biggest game of the day is South Carolina/LSU, this afternoon from Baton Rouge. But Gameday is set from Tuscaloosa this morning, as UGA/Alabama play tonight on you guessed it, ESPN. No matter that both South Carolina and LSU are higher ranked than either UGA or 'Bama.

If the network wants to promote itself so hard, fine. Just come out and say it though.

No offense, but this is the dumbest ESPN-related rant I've ever read. You could literally close your eyes and point and find a better example of why ESPN sucks than what you came up with. Every single location of College Gameday has been at an ESPN/ABC game. Why the hell would they ever set up shop at a game on another network? Does the FOX screw sit outside Foxboro when the Patriots and Colts play?

Tell the SEC to give back CBS' money and then you can have Gameday.

[GrantDawg]

UVA 14-7 over GT late in the 1st quarter.


And now 21-7. I really feel for Tech fans. This is a good team. I just can't understand how Gailey can't do a better job with them.

[MylesKnight]

I know it's early but damn...

Syracuse had 140 yards passing in the 1st Quarter and are currently tied at Louisville, 7-7 early in the 2nd.

Syracuse is awful folks.

That makes Louisville's Defense _______?

[Logan]

...horrible enough to give up 42 points to Middle Tennessee State?

[MylesKnight]

Logan, in response to your comments, I will say that up until the past couple of years, ESPN's College Gameday was broadcast from the location of the day's biggest game, regardless of the network affiliation for said game.

This has changed, and we all know why.

ESPN has a long list of things wrong with it, this is just another example, even if this may be a dumb one in your obviously very humble opinion.

[molson]

I don't have a problem with the ESPN thing, why would they give huge AM hype to a game on another network? That makes no sense. They don't exist as some sort of non-profit service for sports fans.

Syracuse now up by 2 touchdowns though Louisville is driving at the end of the first half.

[MylesKnight]

Ball State tied with Nebraska 7-7 midway through the 2nd. BSU is outplaying NU so far.

A couple of teams letting down after tough losses last week (Louisville & Nebraska so far).

[RPI-Fan]

Jon: YOu know the game is on ESPNU right?

[JonInMiddleGA]

RPI -- yeah, but my son has commandeered the TV down here for more than an hour (PS2 is down here atm).

[RPI-Fan]

If we had won last week I'm guessing that TV woulnd't be quite so easily commandeered. :)

[Logan]

Fuckin Louisville making the BE look bad.

[JonInMiddleGA]

If we had won last week I'm guessing that TV woulnd't be quite so easily commandeered. :)

Heh, I might have been ready to force him to take it away after it became 21-7 ;)

Now 21-20 UVA btw for those following only through this thread.

[dime]

no, it's just that the Big East IS bad.

[larrymcg421]

Nah, the Big East is having a good year. It might just be that Louisville is the 4th (or even 5th after Cincinnatti) best team in the conference.

[miami_fan]

Fuckin Louisville making the BE look bad.

It is like someone told the defense that they were playing touch football instead of tackle.

[Easy Mac]

not the first time.

i think offenses have figured out the louisville D. Move.

[Celeval]

UVA 14-7 over GT late in the 1st quarter.

edit: Make that 21-7 after what looks like a pick six (gamecast kind of screwed up atm)

The pick-6 was somewhat flukey - pass was batted up at the line, bounced around between a couple of big guys, and somehow ended up bouncing back over Bennett's head where a DLman was waiting. Passing game had a 3/10 set somewhere in the middle of the first half, but has looked pretty decent since. Choice is out with his hamstring.

[RPI-Fan]

Bell!!!! 23-21 GT

[Logan]

no, it's just that the Big East IS bad.

Two teams in the top 11, 50% of the teams ranked, and another on the doorstep. Horrible.

[MylesKnight]

Louisville just scored a TD and is down 31-21 to Syracuse with just under 14:00 left.

The Cards can score very quickly, this one is far from over. It's amazing they can't stop a Syracuse team that everyone else stops fairly decisively though.

Doesn't it seem like nearly every year there is a team that is expected to be in the thick of things in the National Title Chase that completely falls off the map by season's end. The prime example being a Alabama team from a few years back that was ranked preseason #3, and ended up 3-8.

By the way, the Big East looks mighty tough.

West Virginia, Rutgers, South Florida, Cincinnati (surprisingly), Louisville (questionable right now, but still), are all good ball clubs. Pittsburgh and UConn aren't terrible either, and Syracuse, well overall they are 0-3 but they aren't acting like it today.

They may not be the best conference, but I'd put them up there with the SEC and Pac-10 right now, and above the Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC.

[Logan]

Another Cuse TD.

I just don't get it. They looked SO SO SOOOO bad to start the year.

P.S. Myles, I was a dick in that ESPN post. Sorry.

[k0ruptr]

go brohm throw as many ints as possible

[JonInMiddleGA]

Does ND play Louisville?

[st.cronin]

The Syracuse Offense: You can't stop them, you can only hope to contain them.

[molson]

Andrew Robinson giving Cuse fans some hope for the future - 365 yards passing, 4 TD, 0 Interceptions.

Louisville was 36 1/2 point favorites going into this game.

[k0ruptr]

South Florida impresses me.

[k0ruptr]

obviously to beat Louisville, just throw the ball.

I can't believe Hawaii's AD turned down a game at Louisville this year, fkn ARG

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT muffs a punt, gives UVA the ball around the 25.
That 23-21 lead doesn't look very good at the moment.

edit to add: 1 play, 26 yd TD pass, Cavs back in front.

[k0ruptr]

Nate Davis for player of the week, he is tearing up nebraska's secondary.

37-28 Ball St.

Davis is 20-33 389 yds 3 tds 0 picks. and a rushing td.

[k0ruptr]

dola and Ball St. has more offensive yards against nebraska then USC did.

[Easy Mac]

Ole Miss down by a FG to Florida

[MylesKnight]

Not a problem Logan.

38-21 Syracuse now, under 8 minutes left. Wow!!

Also Nebraska trails Ball State 37-28 in the 4th Quarter. Missed PAT by BSU may come back to haunt them though.

Any predictions on crazy scores later on today? Charleston Southern over Hawaii?? :D

[k0ruptr]

lol nice try mylesknight haha

[MylesKnight]

Crazy thing is I would've taken Louisville giving up 36 1/2 to Syracuse this morning.

[k0ruptr]

I might have to start takin the over on louisville games, since they are sure to give up 30 a game.

[Logan]

Crazy thing is I would've taken Louisville giving up 36 1/2 to Syracuse this morning.

I would've made the "I thought they didn't list spreads against 1-AA teams" joke.

[k0ruptr]

BTW this Duke - Navy game is a thriller. wow

[larrymcg421]

Uh, Florida starting to struggle against Ole Miss. It's 27-24 early in the 4th.

[k0ruptr]

Nebraska fumbles ball st recovers

[k0ruptr]

Dukes offense can't be stopped! hope you all took the over lol

Duke 43 Navy 32 3rd quarter

[larrymcg421]

Duke's QB is 15-22 for 358 yards (that's 16.3 YPA), 4 TD and 0 INT. And it's still the 3rd quarter.

[k0ruptr]

Nebraska pick 6, FUCC

[MylesKnight]

I was going to mention Duke. It's amazing what one victory can do.

Still hard for pull for their Football Team, regardless of how bad they've been, when you take into account Duke Basketball.

I've heard that Duke Basketball and Notre Dame Football are the anti-christ... :)

[k0ruptr]

Ball St. lol no problems at all driving the field against the huskers.

[Logan]

Wow. BALLS to throw for the first down there. Game over for the Ville.

[Celeval]

GT wide receiver Correy Earls is down flat on has back, and has been there for a few minutes... helmet-to-helmet collision on a block, and they're going to put him on a backboard.

[Logan]

Holy Fuck. Robinson fumbled again!

[Passacaglia]

Fuckin Louisville making the BE look bad.

Aren't they playing another Big East team?

[sooner333]

FG Ball State 40-35 now.

[Young Drachma]

Wow, what a day so far. And I bet you Petrino is glad he's out of here. New Louisville coach isn't exactly tearing it up. Not. good.

But should offer Rutgers some hope against Louisville after having beat them last year already.

[Logan]

Aren't they playing another Big East team?

When there's an upset by a low-level team over a "premier" team in the SEC, Big 10/12, you hear about how it shows the depth of the conference.

That same standard doesn't apply in the media to the BE. We'll get killed for it.

[Logan]

Wow, what a day so far. And I bet you Petrino is glad he's out of here. New Louisville coach isn't exactly tearing it up. Not. good.

But should offer Rutgers some hope against Louisville after having beat them last year already.

Entirely possible that they have 4 BE losses, 5 total, before we go to play them.

[Young Drachma]

Aren't they playing another Big East team?

Perennial doormat of the past few years. Means that a team once considered at the top can't handle it. Happens in another conference and folks just say "wow, look at their steely resolve and how great our conference is. On any given Saturday..." But in relation to the Big East, people just shout and say "BE Sucks!"

That's pretty much how the new college football landscape works.

But maybe Rutgers running the table is just what college football needs to agitate a playoff.

Seems Boise State win last year was just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the upsets we're seeing.

[Celeval]

GT wide receiver Correy Earls is down flat on has back, and has been there for a few minutes... helmet-to-helmet collision on a block, and they're going to put him on a backboard.

Still down, and ESPN-U has switched to the beginning of Maryland/Wake Forest.

[Logan]

Beat you DC.

And Louisville might very well win this thing.

[Logan]

Hahahahaha...can't even execute an ATTEMPT at an onside kick.

[Celeval]

Still down, and ESPN-U has switched to the beginning of Maryland/Wake Forest.

Brought off the field, tied up tight - looks like they took off his facemask but left on the helmet. Doesn't look good for Earls at the moment.

Nor Tech, who immediately commits a false start on 4th and 1, and then turns it over on downs down 5.

[Young Drachma]

Beat you DC.

And Louisville might very well win this thing.

I saw that and laughed. :)

And yeah, seems Syracuse is going to blow this. I hope not, but at the same time...it shows me enough. That Louisville is vulnerable.

And then of course, Louisville blows it. Good work, gang.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Earls being taken to UVA Medical Center.

Next play is 4th & 1 from the UVA 16, GT called for false start
Still going for it, Bennett gets sacked with 4:30 left.
UVA still leads 28-23.

And yes, two FG's would have made it 29-28 GT.

[molson]

As good a recruiter as coach P was, these are the kinds of games he fumbled at the end. We'll see if Robinson can hang on.

[Young Drachma]

Well alrighty then.

[TargetPractice6]

Love the Louisville implosion... Also love how their fans were in mass exodus mode in the third quarter.

[RendeR]

Someone who's payed closer atention to Ohio State so far:

Is the offensive play calling just too conservative prior to today? That first drive looked like a vicious 2 minute drill. 2:10 touchdown 41 yards...it looked sweet.

Perhaps they just need to open things up a bit?

Shit, make that 3:29 into the game and 14-0, robiskie with another td catch.

Granted they're playing Northwester, but from what I saw in the first 2 games the Buckeyes offense looked weak, today they look like insta-scoring machines.

[Young Drachma]

Ohio is up 10-6 to Wyoming. Seems losing to Syracuse last year wasn't enough.

[molson]

Love the Louisville implosion... Also love how their fans were in mass exodus mode in the third quarter.

I didn't even realize this game was in Louisville until near the end. What a disaster for them.

[Celeval]

That's going to be the ballgame, as Tech drops a sure first down pass on third and 20, then gets calls for offensive interference on fourth down. Before the Earls injury, I really thought we were going to come back, but after that the team looks pretty bad - false start, two holdings, and offensive interference on five downs.

[Young Drachma]

Who names their kid Captain?

[miami_fan]

Who names their kid Captain?

A relative of the guy who named his kid Major?

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT looked just awful after the injury (didn't look all that good before the injury for that matter).

They managed to get the ball back with a couple of minutes left.
Two holding penalties, a dropped ball that would have been a 20 yd gain, and then offensive PI on 4th down heave.

Now 0-2 in the conference, Bennett was just 17/40 for 231 and 56 of those came on an early TD. Dwyer filled in capably for Choice but the offense couldn't produce when needed.

[k0ruptr]

sounds like Reggie Ball snuck into the game .

[Young Drachma]

A relative of the guy who named his kid Major?

Totally forgot about him. Good call.

[RendeR]

21-0 now halfway through the 1st quarter, at this rate we're looking at a 168-0 game.....

Is Northwestern really this bad?

[molson]

Who names their kid Captain?

That's still more restrained than "Peerless".

[Celeval]

Now 0-2 in the conference, Bennett was just 17/40 for 231 and 56 of those came on an early TD. Dwyer filled in capably for Choice but the offense couldn't produce when needed.

FWIW, there seemed to me to be a lot of drops - that last one that would have gone for 20 was just the biggest of them. The surprising thing for me on offense was Bennett's mobility - he slipped out of a couple of sacks, and scrambled pretty well - the play near the end where Earls got hurt was after a Bennett scramble on 3rd and 14 to go to 4th and 1.

[RendeR]

oi...Ok Northwestern just might be that bad...

[k0ruptr]

on a side note. Hawaii's schedule for next year is rumored to be done, with the final game coming against Syracuse

so we play @ Florida, @ Oregon St. home against Washington ST. and I'm guessing the Cuse game will be at home
not a bad non conference schedule, won't be any bitching about weakness next year.

[digamma]

FWIW, there seemed to me to be a lot of drops - that last one that would have gone for 20 was just the biggest of them. The surprising thing for me on offense was Bennett's mobility - he slipped out of a couple of sacks, and scrambled pretty well - the play near the end where Earls got hurt was after a Bennett scramble on 3rd and 14 to go to 4th and 1.


I thought Bennett got a pretty bad spot on the Earls play. But, overall Tech just seemed to lack urgency. Choice is the only guy on the offense who plays with fire. If they don't care, I don't know why I should get all worked up and let it ruin my weekend.

[RPI-Fan]

Is it just me or was that an AWFUL spot on the Bennet run on 3rd down???

What is the rule? If it is where the ball is when he finally steps out of bounds, he was 1-2 yards past the marker!!

[WSUCougar]

What pathetic time management by Michigan State at the end of the half.

[Young Drachma]

20-23 Wyoming with less than 3 minutes in the 3rd quarter. We'll see if they can actually get back in this and pull off the W.

[CU Tiger]

Local radio reported that Earls is unconscious and unresponsive since the hit. I HOPE AND PRAY this ends better than it sounds.

As far as Louisville is concerned, maybe Petrino was MUCH better than he got credit for. Just off the top of my head I don't remember them losing too many D starters from last year.

And anyone comparing the Big East to the SEC this year, seriously, just shoot yourself now. At the Top LSU and Florida are CLEARLY better than anyone in the Big East. And West Virginia is the only Big East team that could play with Alabama, South Carolina, Arkansas or maybe even Kentucky. Seriously I think Miss State goes 5-2 or 4-3 in the Big East...
As to the depth comment, it Cuse that pulled the upset. If a winless Vandy team beat Florida or LSU I think everyone would be pretty critical

[ISiddiqui]

West Virginia "could play" with Florida. Maybe not LSU, but they are ridiculously good.

As for "maybe even Kentucky", are you forgetting this same Louisville team that lost to Syracuse took UK to the final minute of last week's game?

I mean this reminds me when people said Georgia was going to kill West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl a couple years back. Yeeeah.

[larrymcg421]

Florida with a 6 point win over Ole Miss. Yeah, I think WVU could hang with them.

[st.cronin]

Penn State, making the Big 10 look bad.

[Logan]

I mean this reminds me when people said Georgia was going to kill West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl a couple years back. Yeeeah.

No shit. Rutgers would challenge all the supreme SEC teams and would easily beat all the teams CU listed.

[CU Tiger]

Rutgers loses to LSU by 30 easily...

[Young Drachma]

Wyoming beats Ohio on a late score. It wasn't pretty, but...a W is a W.

[Young Drachma]

All of this banter about how supposedly great the SEC is wouldn't even go away with a playoff. People would defend their losses by saying "well, it was just one game. They'd never make it through an entire SEC season!"

[Buccaneer]

That Penn State QB appears to be pretty bad.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Final score from Spartanburg, SC

#13 Wofford 42
# 1 Appy State 31

[Celeval]

Final score from Spartanburg, SC

#13 Wofford 42
# 1 Appy State 31

That'll probably knock them out of the polls. ;)

[Celeval]

Local radio reported that Earls is unconscious and unresponsive since the hit. I HOPE AND PRAY this ends better than it sounds.

He certainly didn't look aware, if conscious, when bringing him off. That said, there was a report on one of the GT message boards I read that Coach Gailey said in postgame that Earls was moving his hands and toes while on the field; which has to be a good sign.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Final score from Spartanburg, SC

#13 Wofford 42
# 1 Appy State 31

Wofford must be a very, very good team.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Penn State, making the Big 10 look bad.

Other than Ohio State, no one has made the Big 10 look good.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee marches straight down the field, 7-0 with 12 mins left 1st Qtr
Arkansas state needs just six plays, including a 45 yd pass to the 3, to tie 7-7.

Chavis might not be employed by halftime if this continues.

[JonInMiddleGA]

ajc.com article on Correy Earls says he'll remain at UV Medical overnight and repeats the bit posted here about Gailey saying he had some movement in extremities on the sidelines.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/gatech/stories/2007/09/22/techearls_0923.html

[JonInMiddleGA]

Now 14-7 Tennessee over Arkansas State, thanks in part to a running into the kicker penalty on a FG try.

Good time for me to go to dinner, no sense the Indians march down the virtual field on Gamecast.

[digamma]

ajc.com article on Correy Earls says he'll remain at UV Medical overnight and repeats the bit posted here about Gailey saying he had some movement in extremities on the sidelines.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/gatech/stories/2007/09/22/techearls_0923.html


Folks on the GT message board are reporting that he has full movement and that x-rays and tests were negative.

[st.cronin]

Other than Ohio State, no one has made the Big 10 look good.

Notre Dame?

[k0ruptr]

leaving for the hawaii game. of course I will be on later to update Colts heisman thread. word

[Young Drachma]

At least App State can still be eligible for the national championship in their division. ;)

[ISiddiqui]

Wow... Woodson with a NICE TD strike, bringing UK back in the 4th Q against Arkansas. Let's see if they can hold it with 4 minutes left. The more I see of Woodson, the more I like him.

[st.cronin]

Why does Arkansas even bother with any play that calls for Casey Dick to drop back to pass? They should just use McFadden as the "quarterback."

[CU Tiger]

And Kentucky puts it out of reach

[TargetPractice6]

Yes! The Cats are for real this year!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Folks on the GT message board are reporting that he has full movement and that x-rays and tests were negative.

Great news, thanks.

[JonInMiddleGA]

8 plays, 82 yds and Arkansas State closes back to within 38-27 of Tennesse, 4th quarter just underway in Knoxville.

Meanwhile Alabama has tied UGA 10-10 in the 3rd with a sudden burst of offense following a midfield interception.

[astrosfan64]

Rutgers loses to LSU by 30 easily...

No way

[miami_fan]

Stafford throws a lot of passes off his back foot unecessarily.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So UGA back in front of Bama 17-10, around the middle of the 3rd qtr.
UT back out to a 45-27 lead over Arkansas State with 13:37 left.

edit to add: I hate to say it, but I think Knowshon Moreno might turn out to be a really good RB.

[st.cronin]

Alabama, making the SEC look bad.

[CU Tiger]

Alabama, making the SEC look bad.

How so???
Struggling against a good Georgia team thats only loss was to SC...

This thread is a bit shocking to me. I am no SEC fan, Hell ACC/SEC is a pretty huge rivalry down here, but anyone who doesnt think the SEC is without a doubt 1 or at worst 2nd in terms of top to bottom strength isnt watching the same games I am

[Eaglesfan27]

USC showing it can pass the ball as well as run it tonight with almost 200 yards passing in the 1st half.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Georgia extends the lead to 20-10 with about 12 minutes left.

[sterlingice]

Not that anyone really cares, but:

Kansas 55
Florida International 3

to go along with

Sat, Sep 1 Central Michigan W 52-7
Sat, Sep 8 Southeastern Louisiana W 62-0
Sat, Sep 15 Toledo W 45-13

Not much competition there but impressive scores. KU doesn't play next week, giving it 2 weeks to prepare for Kansas State in Manhattan, who took this week off to prepare for Texas in Austin. I can't wait.

SI

[wade moore]

Final score from Spartanburg, SC

#13 Wofford 42
# 1 Appy State 31

I was listening to a broadcast on the way back from the W&M at VT game (ugh)... I think it was the James Madison broadcast..

Anyway.. they were talking about the HUGE upset... sorry, Wofford over Appy St. by 11 points is not a HUGE upset.. just because Appy St. beat Michigan doesn't mean they're going to just do a cakewalk through I-AA. Undefeated teams rarely, rarely happen in I-AA even by dominant teams that win championships.

[wade moore]

How so???
Struggling against a good Georgia team thats only loss was to SC...

This thread is a bit shocking to me. I am no SEC fan, Hell ACC/SEC is a pretty huge rivalry down here, but anyone who doesnt think the SEC is without a doubt 1 or at worst 2nd in terms of top to bottom strength isnt watching the same games I am

I'm an SEC homer and wont' say that the SEC is necessarily the best conference this year, but clearly anyone trying to say the Big East is the best or better than the SEC is delusional/completely homering it.

[Celeval]

Huge, huge PI call in the Georgia - Bama game. That keeps Alabama alive.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Followed immediately by a blown call on a pass near the sidelines. Surely that one gets corrected by replay.

edit to add: It was corrected (Bama ball on the Ga 7) but it sure took 'em long enough.

[wade moore]

Could be an interesting 5 minutes here if Bama gets their heads on straight.

[wade moore]

Wow. You've gotta stay on your feet with that catch buddy. I know it was a little long, but no reason to fall over.

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn, ABC switched away from the USC game down here in Louisiana since it is becoming a blowout :(


Oh well, I really liked what I saw from the offense tonight. 41-14 towards the end of the 3rd.

[JonInMiddleGA]

They might very well still screw it up but a nice playcalling sequence there by Major Applewhite.

[wade moore]

They might very well still screw it up but a nice playcalling sequence there by Major Applewhite.

Very much so. His play calling all game has been pretty damned good for such a young guy/1st year coordinator. Execution hasn't always been so great, but...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Execution hasn't always been so great, but...

I get the feeling, just watching Alabama tonight, that they're similar to South Carolina for the past couple of years. Not a terrible team, but just undertalented compared to a lot of the teams they face. I'm just not seeing too many players for them that I believe would be starters elsewhere in the top half of the conference, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

[CU Tiger]

Agreed.
Bama and SC are probably 1-2 (or maybe 3rd with Meyer thrown in there)in terms of coaching, but down the ladder a bit in terms of talent. Makes for a hell of clash in the middle as over talented teams are undercoached (read Auburn, Georgia, etc.) and meet undertalented overcoached.

[st.cronin]

How in the world did JP get through the Georgia defense, there.

[wade moore]

I get the feeling, just watching Alabama tonight, that they're similar to South Carolina for the past couple of years. Not a terrible team, but just undertalented compared to a lot of the teams they face. I'm just not seeing too many players for them that I believe would be starters elsewhere in the top half of the conference, especially on the offensive side of the ball.Agreed. But, like SC, coached well enough that when the players paly at the top of their game they can shake things up.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Bama if Saban steps up the recruiting. They seem to have found a gem in their OC and lord knows they have a fan base ready and craving a championship contender.

[Celeval]

'bama ties it up with 1:09 to play. Definately the best game I've watched today.

[wade moore]

How in the world did JP get through the Georgia defense, there.

Happens all too often in college football. These kids just can't recover on defense when those plays break down like that.

[wade moore]

Did anyone else watch that Football show on MTV? It's always very weird to really watch JP Wilson after watching his little brother on that show.

[CU Tiger]

Gotta make that catch...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Coming down to a 58ish yd FG attempt with :12 left at Alabama.
Into a light wind.

edit to add: Instead they go for it & throw to the 30 with 5 seconds left.
And completed to the guy who had been dropping balls all night.

[wade moore]

Coming down to a 58ish yd FG attempt with :12 left at Alabama.
Into a light wind.
Or a bit shorter.. ;)

[wade moore]

Looks like 47-48 yards...

[CU Tiger]

Ice the kicker...

[st.cronin]

Badgers finally take the lead in Madison, 14-10 over the Ferentzes.

Is it just me, or has Mark Richt gotten a little pudgy lately?

[wade moore]

I hope he misses. I love college OT.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Coutu is a danged good kicker (who UGA really missed last season when he was hurt). I got a bad feeling about this.

[wade moore]

Coutu is a danged good kicker (who UGA really missed last season when he was hurt). I got a bad feeling about this.+1

UGA losing to Bama and SC in the same season would be fantastic.

[wade moore]

Dola: Especially when I know it could be a loooong season wiating for teh Vols to actually win some big games.

[wade moore]

OT baby.

[CU Tiger]

wide left
OT baby

[CU Tiger]

And Wisconsin is losing

[JonInMiddleGA]

Juuuust a bit outside.

[wade moore]

Even though it missed, that was a damned good kick. As much as I love to hate on UGA, I agree with the coach that had him put his head up - 45+ yard kicks for a college player are not easy business.

[st.cronin]

And Wisconsin is losing

Um, no. Badgers 14-Hawkeyes 10, Iowa lining up a figgy.

[wade moore]

Way to waste your first shot in OT.

They've gotta hope for a big showing by their D.

[wade moore]

That didn't take long.

[CU Tiger]

ball game

what a pass stafford

[ISiddiqui]

WOW!!!

What a throw by Stafford to win it for Georgia!

[sterlingice]

Um, no. Badgers 14-Hawkeyes 10, Iowa lining up a figgy.

Figgy? That's a new one on me

SI

[st.cronin]

Figgy? That's a new one on me

SI

It could also be called the "Kirk Ferentz Special."

[wade moore]

In the CB's defense - you can't cover a whole lot closer than he did right there, especially when he stubmled in the coverage.

[st.cronin]

Notice that when Tyler Donovan has the ball in late game situations with the lead, he NEVER scrambles out of bounds. Love that guy.

[st.cronin]

4th and 8, Iowa ball on their own 30, 1:30 to go. Badgers 14, Iowa 13.

[Celeval]

That was nearly the play of the night for Iowa, if the receiver doesn't stumble.

[st.cronin]

My goodness. Talk about your good news/bad news - Iowa fans, the good news is that Jake Christensen had a man wide open for a game winning touchdown pass in the closing minutes of their big 10 opener. The bad news is, the receiver fell down trying to catch the ball, and completely missed it.

[Celeval]

Essentially...4th and 10, down 4 from their own... er... 25ish, their receiver runs past five guys in coverage and ends up three yards behind everyone - the pass is maybe a little overthrown, but the receiver stumbles and can't get to it... had he made the catch, he'd have won the game for them.

[timmynausea]

Pitt lost to UConn 34-14. Apparently this won't be the year that Dave Wannstedt spontaneously learns how to coach. Fingers crossed for next year.

[WSUCougar]

I couldn't get the game here...fortunately. :o Darn, ABC switched away from the USC game down here in Louisiana since it is becoming a blowout :(


Oh well, I really liked what I saw from the offense tonight. 41-14 towards the end of the 3rd.

[RPI-Fan]

Where's Colt???????????????????

[larrymcg421]

Good question. Why is Graunke playing?

[TazFTW]

Colt is out with an ankle injury that he suffered before the UNLV game.

[CU Tiger]

Is the hawaii game on TV?

[Logan]

I'm an SEC homer and wont' say that the SEC is necessarily the best conference this year, but clearly anyone trying to say the Big East is the best or better than the SEC is delusional/completely homering it.

No one in this thread said anything close to that. Claiming that Rutgers and WVU can play with the upper echelon teams isn't saying that the BE is better than the SEC.

[VPI97]

No one in this thread said anything close to that. Claiming that Rutgers and WVU can play with the upper echelon teams isn't saying that the BE is better than the SEC.

How about Rutgers actually playing a competent team before claiming they can run with the #2 & #3 teams in the country? They could either be the #1 team in the land or the #91 team in the land and no one would know since they've played the easiest OOC schedule in I-A football.

[VPI97]

I was listening to a broadcast on the way back from the W&M at VT game (ugh)...

How was your trip to Blacksburg? VT fans treat you well?

[Logan]

They beat the #3 team in the country last year, a team that would've played in the National Championship game if they didn't lose to Rutgers. The team is better offensively, still has one of the top offensive lines in the country, and is on the same level defensively as they were a year ago. That's the best I can offer you.

Meanwhile, I apologize that we didn't schedule powerhouses for this year 6 years ago.

[CU Tiger]

No one in this thread said anything close to that. Claiming that Rutgers and WVU can play with the upper echelon teams isn't saying that the BE is better than the SEC.

This guy might disagree


They may not be the best conference, but I'd put them up there with the SEC and Pac-10 right now, and above the Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC.

So the top 2 teams are better than Texas and Oklahoma?
Big Ten I will give you.
ACC I'm just not sure. Top 3 teams are BC, VT, and Clemson.
I really dont think Rutgers is a favorite against any on the road, and maybe a dog at home to at least VT.

WVU, yeah they are at least as good and probably better than all 3.

But "right up there with the SEC" no way in hell.

[CU Tiger]

Dola-
Why are you scheduling 6 years in advance?
Clemson still doesnt have their OOC worked out for next year. And we are in talks with Bama for a home and home or a possible neutral site at the G. Dome.

Surely if Clemson can convince Bama to play a neutral site game, Rutgers could get Maryland or Vandy or even Texas Tech on the schedule?

[VPI97]

They beat the #3 team in the country last year, a team that would've played in the National Championship game if they didn't lose to Rutgers. The team is better offensively, still has one of the top offensive lines in the country, and is on the same level defensively as they were a year ago. That's the best I can offer you.
That sounds almost exactly like UCLA's preseason outlook. None of it means squat when looking at the 2007 season, though.


Surely if Clemson can convince Bama to play a neutral site game, Rutgers could get Maryland or Vandy or even Texas Tech on the schedule?
*cough*

Rutgers does play Maryland...next week in fact.

[Logan]

So the top 2 teams are better than Texas and Oklahoma?

Well, I'd say yes, but I'm sure you'll disagree.

ACC I'm just not sure. Top 3 teams are BC, VT, and Clemson.

The ACC is easily #6 when it comes to the BCS conferences. Maybe #5. WVU and RU are better than BC, and I'd take USF over Clemson. A win over FSU doesn't impress me.

I really dont think Rutgers is a favorite against any on the road, and maybe a dog at home to at least VT.

Laughable. Talk about an overrated team. Got embarrassed against LSU and couldn't put the behemoth known as East Carolina away.

I'm tired of these arguments with SEC fans.

[VPI97]

Laughable. Talk about an overrated team. Got embarrassed against LSU and couldn't put the behemoth known as East Carolina away.
shurg...at least we have the balls to play a ranked OOC opponent. Can't say that about any Big East team except USF....and even their ranked opponent, Auburn, has turned out to be crap this season.

Schools should actually play good teams before declaring themselves as part of the epicenter of college football. It's hilarious seeing a fan of one of the most historically horrible I-A programs in college football try to talk down to programs that have...you know, actually maintained more than one year of success.

[st.cronin]

The arguments about which conference is better than the others is one of the dumbest arguments you can find today.

[CU Tiger]

*cough*

Rutgers does play Maryland...next week in fact.

Touche

[CU Tiger]

The ACC is easily #6 when it comes to the BCS conferences. Maybe #5. WVU and RU are better than BC, and I'd take USF over Clemson. A win over FSU doesn't impress me.

- Acc is #6? Ok I am game. Please name the 5 better BCS conferences.
USF over Clemson? Please tell me have you watched Clemson play this year? Because I have 4 times in fact, in person. And I have watched 3 USF games (DVR) also. Now this is far from a great Clemson team, but USF? Please.

- A win over FSU doesn't impress you, but a win over Richmond U does? Or maybe its the victory over Buffalo that convinces you? This suck, I LOVE Greg Schianno. I worked a summer camp with him when I was still coaching and he is one of my favorite people in college football, but you as a fan are making me hope they dont win another game.

- I think what you are missing is despite their last two games Louisville is still the 3rd best BE team and they lost to the 6th best SEC team.


Laughable. Talk about an overrated team. Got embarrassed against LSU and couldn't put the behemoth known as East Carolina away.

I'm tired of these arguments with SEC fans.

- I think you will find at years end that any team in college football outside of USC is in a different league than LSU, and several will end up embarassed.

- Again, I am a Clemson Tiger, Alum, former player, and former G.A. Clemson = ACC
ACC:SEC :: Boston Red Sox:NY Yankees
I am no SEC fan, and I hate the fact that they are as dominant as they are. I hoped our expansion would lead to more competitive balance between the ACC and the SEC as yet that hasnt happened. So please believe what you want but if you think its only home town (or conference)bias you really are delusional.


Rutgers made a great story last year, and they are a decent team. Now I realize that this feeling of actually being relevent is a total new experience for Rutger fans, so let me give you a little tutorial. Wins last year do not carry over, beating patsies by 50 is nice call us when you play somebody, and finally while 9-3 may be and in fact is a great season for Rutgers, dont be surprised when real football schools aren't impressed when their coaches may get fired for 9-3.

[Crim]

st.cronin wins the thread.

[Crim]

But thanks for playing, the-rest-of-you.

[Blade6119]

Well, I'd say yes, but I'm sure you'll disagree.



The ACC is easily #6 when it comes to the BCS conferences. Maybe #5. WVU and RU are better than BC, and I'd take USF over Clemson. A win over FSU doesn't impress me.



Laughable. Talk about an overrated team. Got embarrassed against LSU and couldn't put the behemoth known as East Carolina away.

I'm tired of these arguments with SEC fans.

Im a Pac 10 fan, but i can tell you i would take VT over rutgers...id take BC over rutgers, and even clemson over rutgers. WVU, their another story. But i think the big east is WVU, big drop, rutgers, big drop, cincinatti, small drop, pitt/louisville. I think WVU is a top 5 team, and rutgers a top 20...cincy is a top 25, and thats about it as i see it. Not trying to be negative, i just dont see the big east as a top 3 conference right now. Id rank them SEC, Pac 10, Big 12(rank the teams, and compare the matchups..they stack up pretty well with the ACC and BE...would you take pitt over texas tech or cincy over mizzou? Even louisville over nebraska? How about WVU over OU? I just dont see it), ACC(barely, but i think its overall stronger the the BE...i think WVU would win the ACC, but i dont think rutgers or the others would be there at the end), Big East, Big 10.

I know your a big east homer, and especially a rutger's homer, and your conference is getting better and better every year. You have every reason to be optimistic. I just dont think its there yet , in terms of # of top teams or depth. I believe, in full honesty, rutgers and louisville look better then they should because the rest of the league has been pretty terrible in years past. Thats changing with kelly at cincy and pitt finally utlizing that talent they have been stockpiling, but its not there yet. Feel feel to disagree, just thought you should get an outsiders view.

[TazFTW]

Hawaii wins 66-10 without Colt Brennan.

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Inoke Funaki for backup QB!

[wade moore]

How was your trip to Blacksburg? VT fans treat you well?
Sorry, not sure how I missed posting about this.

The trip to Blacksburg was HANDS DOWN the most pleasant away game (for football or basketball) experience I've ever had. I'm sure that the fact that we were an inconsequential I-AA played a factor, but still - I've been to other such games like when we played at Maryland last year.

Anyway. We got there somewhat later (ended up getting into the stadium about 3 minutes before kickoff) because we decided to not stay overnight which meant we had to time it so that we could get back and let our dogs out without leaving them caged up TOO long. Point being - we were scrambling last minute which was no fun as far as having to walk to the stadium. We parked outside of some guys house across from the main parking areas (charged $5, ingenious) and walked all of the way across campus. We were walking amongst masses of students and fans and THE worst thing that happened was some kid trying to make some joke about my jersey looking like a Mason jersey (particularly funny since they don't have a football team) and how all of those schools look alike or something... that was the absolute worst thing. We were literally 2 W&M fans amongst hundreds of VT fans walking and people just let us have our piece. Even the drunken Maryland fans had something to say.

Anyway, went in, we were tucked away in a sliver in the corner of Lane Stadium with other W&M fans. The stadium is incredible. The entrance for the Hokies is fun (I took some shaky video from my point and shoot camera that I'll put up later) and it's nice to see even the "old people" jumping to Enter Sandman (we are somewhat notorious for our old, boring football fans). The game was interesting to start with the Hokies pretty quickly getting inside the 10 twice, but our craptastic defense forcing FG's. Then the offense seemed to be moving the ball pretty well until an uncharacteristic pick-6 by our starting QB. It got out of hand quickly after that and it was 27-0 Hokies after the 1st quarter. Despite the blowout, despite some of our fans still trying to be "loud" (there were like.. MAYBE 200 or so of us) and doing our stupid little first down cheer - the Hokie fans didn't try to crap on us, mock us, etc. like they did at Maryland.

So, we left after the 3rd quarter. Our passing offense was actually clicking pretty well (outside of the 3 Int's, which really was all about the Hokies being bigger, stronger, and faster.. .at least 2 of them would have been completions in I-AA - or hell, against a non-top 25 I-A team) and when we walked away W&M actually had more total yards than the Hokies (but only 12 rushing yards with our top 2 guys out).

Anyway... so the way out - same thing.. everyone let us do our thing, even got a few "Go Tribe!"'s from folks in Hokies gear. To top it off as we walked through the parking lot one of the guys still tailgating even gave a, "Thanks for coming!" and not in a "I'm being a sarcastic ass" kind of way.

So anyway - much respect to the Hokie Nation. My fiance and I actually talked about it for like 30 minutes on the way home. It was totally worth our crazy 14 hour day to drive there, watch the game, and come back the same day. Compared to JMU where we swear we'll never go back (of course we're rivals), Maryland which wasn't terrible but not fun, etc it was great. The stadium is awesome with a great backdrop and some loud fans - even considering the blowout. Hell, I was even happy that in the Hokies pre-game radio show it wasn't a lot of "We're going to mop up this team" but there was a lot of respect for the history between the schools (we haven't played since 85, but played 60 some times before that and were in the same conference for like 40 years. Plus, Jimmye Laycock (our couch for 27 years) and Beamer are apparently like literally best friends).

I'd love to go back to a game at Lane Stadium. If somehow the Hokies and Vols could work out a home-home deal in this century, I'd love to go watch that game for sure.

PS: The memorial was very nice. Simple, yet moving.

Edit: http:/www.fof-woof.com/wademoore/Hokies_Intro.MOV - that's the movie of the intro.. pretty crappy and no Enter Sandman since it doesn't have audio.

Here's a good shot of the great seats/view we had. My Aunt/Uncle/Cousins (one of them is a student) had much worse seats (although even the worst seats aren't bad) so I felt pretty lucky.

http://www.fof-woof.com/wademoore/DSCN1021s.JPG

[Eaglesfan27]

Hawaii wins 66-10 without Colt Brennan.

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Inoke Funaki for backup QB!

I would think that hurts Colt's chances at the Heisman. He misses some stats due to the injury, and his backups show that the system can produce excellent stats from his backups.

[Passacaglia]

st.cronin wins the thread.

I think you missed CU Tiger's comment.

- Acc is #6? Ok I am game. Please name the 5 better BCS conferences.

[Poli]

I was happy to see Georgia win last night, too bad Ole Miss couldn't pull it off. I didn't have much hope early on as Ole Miss was trading touchdowns for field goals.

Good on Georgia and great effort by the Rebs.

[Poli]

- Acc is #6? Ok I am game. Please name the 5 better BCS conferences.
SEC
Big 10
Big 12
Pac 10
Notre Dame
SOL 8


Wait, you said BCS. My bad. ;)

[CU Tiger]

HAHA

Just heard this
Notre Dame is the ONLY BCS team without a win. Its mighty lonely at the bottom, I suppose...

[Poli]

Yeah, buddy. I'm loving it.

[cartman]

HAHA

Just heard this
Notre Dame is the ONLY BCS team without a win. Its mighty lonely at the bottom, I suppose...

So if they go 0-11, which bowl game do they get to go to?

:D

[Passacaglia]

I always thought a BCS team meant you were from one of the BCS conferences. If that's not it, what does it mean?

[wade moore]

I always thought a BCS team meant you were from one of the BCS conferences. If that's not it, what does it mean?

I think it is (literally) teams from the BCS conferences or Notre Dame.

[CU Tiger]

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD>AP Top 25</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD> 1. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) (43) 3-0 1,601</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 2. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99) (22) 4-0 1,580</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 3. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201) 4-0 1,456</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 4. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) 4-0 1,417</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 5. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 4-0 1,388</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 6. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25) 4-0 1,263</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 7. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 4-0 1,196</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 8. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) 4-0 1,193</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 9. Wisconsin (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=275) 4-0 1,030</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>10. Rutgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=164) 3-0 1,008</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>11. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483) 4-0 944</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>12. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103) 4-0 927</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>13. Clemson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=228) 4-0 807</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>14. Kentucky (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=96) 4-0 708</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>15. Georgia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=61) 3-1 631</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>16. South Carolina (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2579) 3-1 586</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>17. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259) 3-1 568</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>18. South Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=58) 3-0 539</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>19. Hawaii (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=62) 4-0 471</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>20. Missouri (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=142) 4-0 401</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>21. Penn State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=213) 3-1 337</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>22. Alabama (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=333) 3-1 265</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>23. Arizona State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=9) 4-0 206</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>24. Cincinnati (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2132) 4-0 164</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>25. Nebraska (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=158) 3-1 134</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>Others Receiving Votes
Purdue 73, Miami (FL) 72, Michigan State 60, UCLA 27, Texas A&M 21, Michigan 21, Arkansas 10, Kansas 6, Florida State 5, UCF 4, Connecticut 3, Virginia 2, Tennessee 1. Dropped From Rankings
Louisville 18, Texas A&M 20.</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=middle><TD>Complete Rankings (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?pollId=1&seasonYear=2007&weekNumber=5)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD>USA Today Poll</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD> 1. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) (44) 3-0 1,481</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 2. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99) (8) 4-0 1,438</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 3. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) (4) 4-0 1,347</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 4. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201) (4) 4-0 1,336</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 5. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 4-0 1,260</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 6. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25) 4-0 1,137</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 7. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 4-0 1,103</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD> 8. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) 4-0 1,092</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD> 9. Wisconsin (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=275) 4-0 1,026</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>10. Rutgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=164) 3-0 901</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>11. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103) 4-0 881</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>12. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483) 4-0 878</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>13. Clemson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=228) 4-0 767</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>14. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259) 3-1 585</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>15. Kentucky (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=96) 4-0 545</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>16. Georgia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=61) 3-1 516</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>17. Hawaii (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=62) 4-0 479</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>18. South Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=58) 3-0 451</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>19. Penn State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=213) 3-1 397</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>20. Missouri (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=142) 4-0 369</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>21. South Carolina (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2579) 3-1 335</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>22. Nebraska (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=158) 3-1 209</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>23. Michigan State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=127) 4-0 167</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>24. Alabama (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=333) 3-1 154</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>25. Arizona State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=9) 4-0 151</TD><TR class=evenrow><TD>25. Purdue (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2509) 4-0 151</TD><TR class=oddrow><TD>Others Receiving Votes
Cincinnati 84, UCLA 69, Miami (FL) 52, Texas A&M 20, Kansas 20, Louisville 18, Boise State 18, Michigan 17, Georgia Tech 10, Florida State 8, Virginia 7, TCU 6, UCF 5, Tennessee 4, Iowa 3, Air Force 2, Mississippi State 1. Dropped From Rankings
Texas A&M 16, Louisville 19.</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=middle><TD>Complete Rankings (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?pollId=2&seasonYear=2007&weekNumber=5)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[CU Tiger]

Couple things jump out.
1) Hawaii is making a nice run. They could wreak havoc if things continue.
2) How in the hell is SC rated below Georgia in both polls? (Admitedly I am the biggest SC hater alive, but damn) SC has 1 loss to the number 2 team in the country. Georgia has 1 loss, to SC in Athens. WTF.

[sterlingice]

Woo! Kansas gets "Others Receiving Votes"!

SI

[Dr. Sak]

I can't believe Penn State is still ranked. If I was a defensive person on that team I'd be really pissed at the offense. From the players to the coaches it was such a poorly executed and called game. If Austin Scott sees the field in anything but mop up time it is a pure travesty.

[k0ruptr]

I would think that hurts Colt's chances at the Heisman. He misses some stats due to the injury, and his backups show that the system can produce excellent stats from his backups.

rofl. this is a joke right? those stats have to help his chances imo. his back up WAS awful, obviously Colt is not a system QB, last night proved it. Graunke was horrible and that was against a FCS team.

[JeeberD]

I don't know that I would call his numbers awful, but I do agree that they weren't up to Colt's standards and I don't think they should hurt his Heisman campaign at all...

[knolysis]

Couple things jump out.
1) Hawaii is making a nice run. They could wreak havoc if things continue.
2) How in the hell is SC rated below Georgia in both polls? (Admitedly I am the biggest SC hater alive, but damn) SC has 1 loss to the number 2 team in the country. Georgia has 1 loss, to SC in Athens. WTF.

I would like to know the answer to this also. If I were voting, I woud have voted South Carolina higher than last week on the fact that they were in Baton Rouge and played a scary-talented LSU team very tough. I came away thinking they were the 3rd best team in the SEC and potentially a Top 10 team from that performance.

[ISiddiqui]

Yay, Rutgers as #10!

And I agree with those wondering how Georgia is ranked above South Carolina.

[Eaglesfan27]

rofl. this is a joke right? those stats have to help his chances imo. his back up WAS awful, obviously Colt is not a system QB, last night proved it. Graunke was horrible and that was against a FCS team.

Two backups at a lower tier school combine for 330 yards, 5 TD's and only 2 INT's. You don't think that isn't going to convince some voters that it is the system.

[JeeberD]

Honestly, I think that's more about who they were playing. If Colt were in I would have expected him to hang 500+ yards and six scores on Charleston Southern...

[st.cronin]

Its perfectly obvious that the Big 10 is far and away the best conference in college football. You only need to look at the following stat to realize that:

Big Ten's record vs. Notre Dame: 3-0
All other BCS conferences record vs. Notre Dame: 1-0

The Big Ten is, thus, three times as good as all the other BCS conferences put together.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not saying it is all the system. I'm just saying that I can see how this could cost Colt some votes.

[k0ruptr]

exactly, I was at the game. Anyway the 3rd string QB funaki played against Charleston Southerns 2nd string Defense btw, so thats his numbers. and as for Graunke, his passes were awful, threw lobs when he needed zip, and the opposite. Anyone calling colt only a system QB and seen this game would realize its not just the system, the guy is special.

[k0ruptr]

I'm not saying it is all the system. I'm just saying that I can see how this could cost Colt some votes.

grr you beat my post :D
lol anyway I didnt mean to be harsh in the first post. And I can see what your saying, especially people who didnt see the game, and just look at the stats I guess. which is unfortunate, because compared to Colt he was bad.

It was really awesome after his 2nd pick, the whole stadium started chanting "We Want Colt"

it was loud. haha.

[DeToxRox]

exactly, I was at the game. Anyway the 3rd string QB funaki played against Charleston Southerns 2nd string Defense btw, so thats his numbers. and as for Graunke, his passes were awful, threw lobs when he needed zip, and the opposite. Anyone calling colt only a system QB and seen this game would realize its not just the system, the guy is special.

Problem is do you think Heisman voters were up at midnight Est watching this game? They only look at the boxscores in a game like that. So all they'll see is two scrubs just put up 400 yards in that offense.

[st.cronin]

Just the fact that Colt missed a game, regardless of what his backups or his team did, has got to kill his Heisman chances.

[Eaglesfan27]

Problem is do you think Heisman voters were up at midnight Est watching this game? They only look at the boxscores in a game like that. So all they'll see is two scrubs just put up 400 yards in that offense.

Exactly my point.

[k0ruptr]

yea, thats sad.


Anyway, Hawaii Looking good for BCS afta 1/3 season.

all they need to do now is win out (yea not really the easiest thing to do)
but seeing where they are ranked right now, there is 0 chance they will be snubbed if they win out.

[timmynausea]

Just the fact that Colt missed a game, regardless of what his backups or his team did, has got to kill his Heisman chances.

That's what I was thinking.

[k0ruptr]

I don't think it will. not yet anyway, its too early to kill him off, especially with brohm already having lost 2 games, as well as arkansas and mcfadden.

[vex]

Bradford for Heisman:)

[bhlloy]

Colt's chances rely solely on whether Hawaii makes the BCS and how ridiculous his passing numbers at the end of the year are. Him missing a game clearly hurts his bottom line but I don't know who else is going to get it.

If USC goes unbeaten and wins the NC, it will probably be Booty, but otherwise he is going to be unfavourably compared to Leinart and Palmer so he won't win it. I don't think McFadden will get it on a pretty average team. I don't know who on LSU could be deserving seeing as they played 2 QB's last night and there doesn't seem to be a RB who gets all of the carries. Brohm is toast. Wide open field after 4 weeks of the season.

[wade moore]

yea, thats sad.


Anyway, Hawaii Looking good for BCS afta 1/3 season.

all they need to do now is win out (yea not really the easiest thing to do)
but seeing where they are ranked right now, there is 0 chance they will be snubbed if they win out.

I will beat this drum again - Hawaii in a BCS would be a travesty.