OT: FOFC Historical Date/Event Draft - Draft Thread

[Mustang]

Team Picks

Team 1 - Barkeep

Needs : Dec

Sports : 6/14/1998 Bulls win 6th Championship in 8 Years (sports)
Military Event : 8/21/1942: Battle of Stalingrad Begin
Natural Disaster : 4/26/1986: Meltdown at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (Natural Disaster)
Entertainment : 1/4/1936: Billboard released their first chart of popular pop music (Entertainment
Scientific Event : 10/22/1878: Thomas Edison conducts first successful test of the filament light bulb (Scientific)
Fictional Event (Date appearing in ficitional material) : 11/12/1955 - Clock tower struck in Back to the Future
Television Moment : 2/9/1964 - Beatles appear on Ed. Sullivan
Politics : 7/4/1776 (U.S Signs Declaration of Independence)
Birthday/Death : 9/13/1996 - Tupac is shot (Death/Births)
19th Century : 3/31/1854 - Commodore Perry opens Japan (19th Century)
Pre-17th century Europe : 5/30/1431 - Joan of Arc is burned at the Stake (Pre-17th Century Europe)
Potluck : 12/31/1907 - Times Square Ball makes its first appearance

Team #2 - Treadwell

Needs : Jan

Sports : 9/6/1995 - Cal Ripken Jr. breaks the record for consecutive games played
Military Event : 6/6/1944 - D-Day
Natural Disaster : 4/18/1906 - San Francisco Earthquake of 1906
Entertainment (Non-fiction) : 7/25/1965 - Bob Dylan "goes electric" at the Newport Folk estival.
Scientific Event : 12/17/1903: The Wright Brothers make the first heaver-than-air human flight (Science)
Fictional Event : 2/2/1992: Events of the movie "Groundhog Day" (fictional)
Television Moment : 8/1/1981 - The debut of MTV. (Television Moment)
Politics : 11/4/1979 - The American Embassy in Tehran is seized, with 66 hostages taken. (Politics)
Birthday/Death : 5/28/1934 - The Dionne Quintuplets are born, the first quintuplets to survive infancy
19th Century : 3/6/1836 - Santa Anna captures the Alamo. (19th Century)
Pre-17th century Europe : 10/14/1066 - The Battle of Hastings
Potluck : 1/22/1973 - The Supreme Court issues a decision in Roe v. Wade


Team #3 - NTNDeacon

Needs : Feb

Sports : 4/6/1896 The start of the Modern Olympics in Athens, Greece (sports)
Military Event : 10/19,1781 Cornwallis Surrenders at Yorktown (military event)
Natural Disaster : 9/8/1900 The Galveston Hurricane (Natural Disaster)
Entertainment : 12/15/1939 Premiere of Gone with the Wind (Entertainment)Non-fiction) :
Scientific Event : 7/20/1969 1st manned landing on the moon
Fictional Event (Date appearing in fictional material) : 6/16/1904 The day in Ulysses. (Leopold Bloom walks around Dublin)
Television Moment : 11/16/1981 Luke Spenser marries Laura Webber on General Hospital (Television event)
Politics : 2/12/1909 NAACP founded Feb. 12, 1909
Birthday/Death : 3/17/493 St. Patrick dies (birth/ death)
19th Century : 5/10/1869 completion of the 1st transcontinental railroad at Promontary Summit
Pre-17th century Europe : 8/8/1588 The English defeat of the Spanish Armada
Potluck : 1/28/1986 The Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster (potluck category)

Team #4 - Maple Leafs

Needs:

Sports : 9/29/1954 -Willie Mays of the New York Giants makes "The Catch"
Military Event : 12/7/1941 The attack on Pearl Harbor
Natural Disaster : 7/28/1976 - The Tangshan earthquake demolishes the city of one million (disaster)
Entertainment : 1/26/1926 - John Logie Baird gives the first public demo of mech TV
Scientific Event : 10/5/1957 - The surprise launch of Sputnik 1, the first successful space launch (Science)
Fictional Event : 4/4/1984 - "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen..." (Fiction)
Television Moment : 5/22/1992 - Johnny Carson's final show
Politics : 11/9/1989 - The fall of the Berlin Wall (politics)
Birthday/Death : 6/28/1914 - Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
19th Century : 8/19/1812 - The HMS Guerriere meets the USS Constitution in a fierce battle
Pre-17th century Europe : 3/1/1095 - The Byzantine Empire attends the Council of Piacenzaasks
Potluck : 2/26/1991 - Tim Berners-Lee introduces WorldWideWeb, the first web browser

Team #5 - Radii

Needs : Feb, May

Sports : 6/8/1966 - The merge of the NFL and AFL into one league is announced (Sports)
Military Event : 7/14/1789 - Storming of the Bastille (Military Event)
Natural Disaster : 10/17/1989 - San Francisco Earthquake during the World Series (Natural Disaster)
Entertainment : 5/15/1928 - The first animated short featuring Mickey Mouse is released
Scientific Event : 2/6/1959 - The first patent for an Integrated Circuit(ie Microchip) is filed by Jack Kilby of Texas Instruments
Fictional Event : 9/22/2004 - Oceanic Flight 815 crashes in premiere of Lost
Television Moment : 12/28/1958 - Baltimore 23, New York 17 (OT) - NFL Championship Game (Television Moment)
Politics : 3/15/44 BC - Julius Caesar is assassinated
Birthday/Death : Nov 22, 1963 - President John F Kennedy is assassinated
19th Century : 4/30/1803 - Louisiana Purchase (19th Century)
Pre-17th century Europe : 1/13/1559 - Elizabeth I crowned Queen of England
Potluck : 8/15/1914, The Panama Canal opens(Potluck)



Team #6 - Path 12

Needs: COMPLETE

Sports : 7/30/1930 -- First World Cup begins in Uruguay. (sports)
Military Event : 4/9/1865 -- Lee surrenders to Grant at Appomattox Courthouse (military)
Natural Disaster : 8/24/79 -- Mt Vesuvius erupts, destroying Pompeii
Entertainment (Non-fiction) : 2/14/2005 -- You Tube is established. (entertainment)
Scientific Event : 11/24/1859 -- Darwin publishes On The Origin Of Species. (Science)
Fictional Event : 5/4/1911 -- Sherlock Holmes kills Professor Moriarty at Reichenbach Falls
Television Moment : 6/25/1951 - First network color broadcast is made by CBS. (Television)
Politics :12/2/1804 - Napoleon Bonaparte declares himself to be the first French Emp
Birthday/Death : 3/29/1912 -- Three members of the Scott Expedition to the South Pole freeze
19th Century : 1/24/1848 - Gold discovered at Sutter's Mill (19th Century)
Pre-17th century Europe : 10/31/1517 -- Martin Luther starts the Reformation with his 95 Theses.
Potluck : 9/11/2001 World Trade Center attack


Team #7 - Buccaneer

Needs: Aug

Sports : 10/8/1956 - Don Larsen's perfect game in the World Series (sports)
Military Event : 9/17/1862 - Battle of Antietam, single bloodiest day in American History (military)
Natural Disaster : 8/27/1883 - Krakatoa volcanic explosions,
Entertainment (Non-fiction) : 1/1/1890 - Inaugural Tournament of Roses Parade, Pasadena
Scientific Event : 6/30/1905 - Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity is published
Fictional Event : 3/25/3019 - The One Ring is destroyed and the Fall of Sauron (fictional)
Television Moment : 2/28/1983 - M*A*S*H Finale
Politics : 7/2/1964 - the landmark Civil Rights Act is made law
Birthday/Death : 12/25/-4 : Birth of Christ
19th Century : 4/14/1865: Lincoln's Assassination
Pre-17th century Europe : 5/20/325 - First Council of Nicaea
Potluck : 11/29/1623 - First Thanksgiving

Team #8 - Larry McG421

Needs : COMPLETE

Sports : 6/22/1937 - Joe Louis knocks out Max Schmeling
Military Event : 4/12/1861 - Confederate forces fire on Fort Sumter
Natural Disaster : 2/4/1783 - Calabria (Italy) Earthquake kills 50,000. (Natural Disasters)
Entertainment (Non-fiction) : 11/2/1959: Charles Van Doren testifies that quiz show 21 is fixed
Scientific Event : 3/10/1876 - Alexander Graham Bell successfully tansmits the first telephone call
Fictional Event : 9/1/1991 - Harry Potter's first day at Hogwarts (fictional)
Television Moment : 10/3/1995 - Announcement of OJ Simpson verdict (TV)
Politics : 5/17/1954 - Brown v. Board of Education decision handed down by Supreme Court
Birthday/Death : 1/17/1706 - Benjamin Franklin was born. (Birthday/Death)
19th Century : 12/10/1898 - Peace treaty is signed between United States and Spain.
Pre-17th century Europe : 8/3/1492 - Columbus sets sail for the new world
Potluck : 7/18/1925: Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is published for the first time.


Team #9 - Mustang

Needs: Dec

Sports : 11/6/1869 : First College football game played. Rutgers v Princeton (sports)
Military Event : 4/24/1184 BC - Greeks enter Troy using the infamous Trojan Horse (military)
Natural Disaster : 8/29/2005 - Katrina hits New Orleans
Entertainment (Non-fiction) : 3/19/1931 - Gambling legalized in Nevada (Entertainment)
Scientific Event : 7/16/1945 - First test of a nuclear weapon aka Trinity Test (science)
Fictional Event : 10/12/802701 - George meets the Eloi in H.G Wells Time Machine (fictional)
Television Moment : 2/19/72 - Sammy Davis Jr. Kisses Archie on All in the Family
Politics : 1/30/33 - Hitler sworn in as Chancellor of Germany
Birthday/Death : 6/10/323 BC Alexander the Great dies
19th Century : 9/27/1821 - Mexico granted independence from Spain
Pre-17th century Europe : 12/4/771 : King Carloman dies making Charlemange the ruler of the complete Frankish Kingdom
Potluck : 5/8/1945 - Victory in Europe

Team #10 - Neon Chaos

NEEDS: May
Sports : 2/22/1959 - Lee Petty wins the very first Daytona 500
Military Event : 8/6/1945 Hiroshima Bombed
Natural Disaster : 5/31/1935 - A 7.1 Magnitude earthquake destroys the city of Quetta in Pakistan.
Entertainment : 9/20/1946 - The first Cannes Film Festival is held (Entertainment)
Scientific Event : 7/10/1962 - The first active communications sattelite, Telstar, is launched
Fictional Event : 12/21/1872 - Phinneas Fogg Arrives At The Reform Club in 80 days around the world(fiction)
Television Moment : 3/21/1980 - Who Shot JR
Politics : 11/19/1863. The Gettysburg Address
Birthday/Death : 1/15/1929 MLK Born
19th Century : 6/18/1815 - Battle of Waterloo (19th century)
Pre-17th century Europe : 4/22/1508 - Henry VIII Crowned as King of England (pre-17th europe)
Potluck : 10/29/1929 - The US stock market crashes, in what was to be called Black Tuesday



Dates Available :

Jan : 6-11, 17-22,
Feb : 6-7, 11-13, 17, 24
Mar : 3-4, 8, 12-13, 23,27-29
Apr : 2, 10, 16, 20, 28 COMPLETE
May : 2-3,12-13
Jun : 1-4, 12, 20 : COMPLETE
Jul : 6-8, 12, 22-26 : COMPLETE
Aug : 10-13, 17, 26-27 : COMPLETE
Sep : 3-4, 15,19-20,24-27
Oct : 1,10, 21-27 : COMPLETE
Nov : 14, 27 COMPLETE
Dec : 4-5, 12-13,19,23,30-31

Draft

1.1 - 7/4/1776 : Declaration of Independence signed
1.2 - 6/6/1944 : D-Day
1.3 - 7/20/1969 : 1st manned landing on the moon
1.4 - 12/7/1941 : The attack on Pearl Harbor
1.5 - 11/22/1963 : President John F Kennedy is assassinated
1.6 - 9/11/2001 : World Trade Center attack
1.7 - 8/3/1492 : Columbus sets sail
1.8 - 12/25/4 B.C. : Christ born
1.9 - 5/8/1945 : Victory in Europe
1.10 - 1/15/1929 : MLK born
2.1 - 8/6/1945: Hiroshima bombed
2.2 - 8/29/2005 : Katrina hits New Orleans
2.3 - 3/10/1876 : Alexander Graham Bell successfully transmits the first telephone call
2.4 - 2/28/1983 - M*A*S*H Finale
2.5 - 8/24/79 -- Mt Vesuvius erupts, destroying Pompeii
2.6 - 3/15/44 B.C. - Julius Caesar is assassinated
2.7 - 6/28/1914 - Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
2.8 - 8/8/1588 - The English defeat of the Spanish Armada
2.9 - 10/14/1066 - The Battle of Hastings
2.10 - 2/9/1964 - Beatles appear on Ed Sullivan Show
3.1 - 11/12/1955 - Clock tower struck in Back to the Future
3.2 - 4/18/1906 - San Francisco Earthquake of 1906
3.3 - 6/16/1904 The day in Ulysses. (Stephen Bloom walks around Dublin)
3.4 - 11/9/1989 - The fall of the Berlin Wall (politics)
3.5 - 12/28/1958 - Baltimore 23, New York 17 (OT) - NFL Championship Game (Television Moment)
3.6 - 10/31/1517 -- Martin Luther starts the Reformation with his 95 Theses (Pre 17th Century Europe)
3.7 - 4/14/1865: Lincoln's Assassination
3.8 - 5/17/1954 - Brown v. Board of Education decision handed down by Supreme Court
3.9 - 6/10/323 BC - Alexander the Great dies
3.10 - 11/29/1863. The Gettysburg Address
4.1 - 3/21/1980 - Who Shot JR?
4.2 - 1/30/33 - Hitler sworn in as Chancellor of Germany
4.3 - 6/22/1937 - Joe Louis knocks out Max Schmeling
4.4 - 11/29/1623 - First Thanksgiving
4.5 - 5/4/1911 -- Sherlock Holmes kills his nemesis Professor Moriarty at Reichenbach Falls in Switzerland. (Fictional date)
4.6 - 9/22/2004 - Oceanic Flight 815 crashes on a mysterious island in the series premiere of Lost
4.7 - 10/5/1957 - The surprise launch of Sputnik 1, the first successful space launch (Science)
4.8 - 11/16/1981 Luke Spenser marries Laura Webber on General Hospital (Television event)
4.9 - 12/17/1903: The Wright Brothers make the first heaver-than-air human flight (Science)
4.10 - 4/26/1986: Meltdown at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (Natural Disaster)
5.1 - 10/22/1878: Thomas Edison conducts first successful test of the filament light bulb (Scientific)
5.2 - 2/2/1992: Events of the movie "Groundhog Day" (fictional)
5.3 - 1/28/1986 The Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster (potluck category)
5.4 - 3/1/1095 - The Byzantine Empire attends the Council of Piacenzaasks (pre-16th)
5.5 - 4/30/1803 - Louisiana Purchase (19th Century)
5.6 - 11/24/1859 -- Darwin publishes On The Origin Of Species. (Science)
5.7 - 3/25/3019 - The One Ring is destroyed and the Fall of Sauron (fictional)
5.8 - 10/3/1995 - Announcement of OJ Simpson verdict (TV)
5.9 - 11/6/1869 : First College football game played. Rutgers v Princeton (sports)
5.10 - 6/18/1815 - Battle of Waterloo (19th century)
6.1 - 12/21/1872 - Phinneas Fogg Arrives At The Reform Club in 80 days around the world(fiction)
6.2 - 7/16/1945 - First test of a nuclear weapon aka Trinity Test (science)
6.3 - 4/12/1861 - Confederate forces fire on Fort Sumter
6.4 - 10/8/1956 - Don Larsen's perfect game in the World Series (sports)
6.5 - 1/24/1848 - Gold discovered at Sutter's Mill (19th Century)
6.6 - 10/17/1989 - San Francisco Earthquake during the World Series (Natural Disaster)
6.7 4/4/1984 - "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen..." (Fiction)
6.8 - 4/6/1896 The start of the Modern Olympics in Athens, Greece (sports)
6.9 - 8/1/1981 - The debut of MTV. (Television Moment)
6.10 - 5/30/1431 - Joan of Arc is burned at the Stake (Pre-17th Century Europe)
7.1 - 3/31/1854 - Commodore Perry opens Japan (19th Century)
7.2 - 11/4/1979 - The American Embassy in Tehran is seized, with 66 hostages taken. (Politics)
7.3 - 9/8/1900 The Galveston Hurricane (Natural Disaster)
7.4 - 7/28/1976 - The Tangshan earthquake demolishes the city of one million (disaster)
7.5 - 8/15/1914, The Panama Canal opens(Potluck)
7.6 - 4/9/1865 -- Lee surrenders to Grant at Appomattox Courthouse (military)
7.7 - 9/17/1862 - Battle of Antietam, single bloodiest day in American History (military)
7.8 - 9/1/1991 - Harry Potter's first day at Hogwarts (fictional)
7.9 - 10/12/802701 - George meets the Eloi in H.G Wells Time Machine (fictional)
7.10 - 4/22/1508 - Henry VIII Crowned as King of England (pre-17th europe)
8.1 - 2/22/1959 - Lee Petty wins the very first Daytona 500
8.2 - 2/19/72 - Sammy Davis Jr. Kisses Archie on All in the Family
8.3 - 12/10/1898 - Spanish-American war Peace treaty is signed between US & Spain (19th).
8.4 - 1/1/1890 - Inaugural Tournament of Roses Parade, Pasadena (Ent)
8.5 - 7/30/1930 -- First World Cup begins in Uruguay. (sports)
8.6 - 7/14/1789 - Storming of the Bastille (Military Event)
8.7 - 1/26/1926 - John Logie Baird gives the first public demo of mechanical TV (ent)
8.8 - 12/15/1939 Premiere of Gone with the Wind (Entertainment)
8.9 - 3/6/1836 - Santa Anna captures the Alamo. (19th Century)
8.10 - 8/21/1942: Battle of Stalingrad Begins (military)
9.1 - 6/14/1998 Bulls win 6th Championship in 8 Years (sports)
9.2 - 9/6/1995 - Cal Ripken Jr. breaks the record for consecutive games played (sports)
9.3 - 5/10/1869 completion of the 1st transcontinental railroad at Promontary Summit, Utah (19th)
9.4 - 5/22/1992 - Johnny Carson bids his audience "a very heartfelt goodnight" (tv)
9.5 - 6/8/1966 - The merge of the NFL and AFL into one league is announced (Sports)
9.6 - 6/25/1951 - First network color broadcast is made by CBS (TV)
9.7 - 6/30/1905 - Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity is published
9.8 - 1/17/1706 - Benjamin Franklin was born. (Birthday/Death)
9.9 - 3/19/1931 - Gambling legalized in Nevada (Entertainment)
9.10 - 7/10/1962 - The first active communications sattelite, Telstar, is launched (Science)
10.1 - 9/20/1946 - The first Cannes Film Festival is held (Entertainment)
10.2 - 9/27/1821 - Mexico granted independence from Spain (19th Cent)
10.3 - 2/4/1783 - Calabria (Italy) Earthquake kills 50,000. (Natural Disasters)
10.4 - 7/2/1964 - the landmark Civil Rights Act is made law (Pol)
10.5 - 12/2/1804 - Napoleon Bonaparte declares himself to be Emperor (Pol)
10.6 - 1/13/1559 - Elizabeth I crowned Queen of England(Pre 17th Century Europe)
10.7 - 8/19/1812 - The HMS Guerriere meets the USS Constitution in a fierce battle (19th)
10.8 - 10/19,1781 Cornwallis Surrenders at Yorktown (military event)
10.9 - 7/25/1965 - Bob Dylan "goes electric" at the Newport Folk Festival. (Entertainment)
10.10 - 1/4/1936: Billboard released their first chart of popular pop music (Entertainment
11.1 - 9/13/1996 - Tupac is shot (Death/Births)
11.2 - 5/28/1934 - The Dionne Quintuplets are born, the first quintuplets to survive infancy
11.3 - 3/17/493 St. Patrick dies (birth/ death)
11.4 - 2/26/1991 - Tim Berners-Lee introduces WorldWideWeb, the first web browser (Potluck)
11.5 - 5/15/1928 - The first animated short featuring Mickey Mouse is released
11.6 - 3/29/1912 - 3 members of the Scott Expedition to the South Pole freeze to death.
11.7 - 5/20/325 - First Council of Nicaea
11.8 - 7/18/1925: Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is published for the first time.
11.9
11.10 - 10/29/1929 - The US stock market crashes, in what was to be called Black Tuesday. (pl)
12.1 - May 31, 1935 - A 7.1 Magnitude earthquake destroys the city of Quetta in Pakistan.
12.2 - 4/24/1184 BC - Greeks enter Troy using the infamous Trojan Horse (military)
12.3 - 11/2/1959: Charles Van Doren testifies that quiz show 21 is fixed (Ent/Non-fic)
12.4 - 8/27/1883 - Krakatoa volcanic explodes (natural disaster)
12.5 - 2/14/2005 -- You Tube is established. (entertainment)
12.6
12.7 - 9/29/1954 -Willie Mays of the New York Giants makes "The Catch" (sports)
12.8
12.9
12.10

[Mustang]

Welcome to the FOFC Historical Date Draft

How to play:

If you want to play, PM me. Some time tomorrow, I'll randomly select ten players. (And by "random", I mean pretty much random...) The draft will be conducted via the forum, in this thread. When it's your turn to draft, you post, ideally with a brief note about the reason for your choice. If you won't be around, you PM someone else your picks in advance to keep things moving. The draft is a serpentine draft, which is a fancy way of saying that the order reverses each round. Draft order will be determined randomly before we start.


How to win:

The fun here comes more from the draft itself than from actually winning, but just in case it matters: Once the draft is done, we'll hold a vote and let FOFC choose the winner. Hopefully there will be some interesting side discussions on why a date or event was significant. Some will be obvious, but others more obscure.

The teams:

You will draft a "team" of twelve dates filling once from each of the following categories and having ONE date in each month.

Categories are -

Sports
Military Event
Natural Disaster
Entertainment (Non-fiction)
Scientific Event
Fictional Event (Date appearing in ficitional material)
Television Moment
Politics
Birthday/Death
19th Century
Pre-17th century Europe
Potluck


- If there is an event that spans days, you must pick one day.
- All events must be historical proven to have occured on the date you provide or the consensus must be that they occured on said date. No fictional dates other than the fictional category.

An example on the fictional event would be July 3rd, Aliens attack in 'Independence Day'.

Any date picked can not have a date picked either 1 day behind or 1 day ahead. If someone picks Jan 31st, Jan 30th and Feb 1st are out of play. Everything is in the same 'year' so, December 31st wouldn't eliminate Jan 1st

A few notes:
The draft is open to everyone -- observers are welcome. Discussion of picks is encouraged.

In general, it's considered very poor form to suggest picks during the draft -- the equivalent of being the guy who doesn't play poker but sits at the rail and shouts out to get attention. However, it will happen. If you're the sort of person who thinks you'd be really, really bothered by this, do yourself a favor and don't play.

In order for the draft to be fun, it has to move quickly. That means that if you will not be checking the forums frequently, you should send an advance list of picks to a partipant or observer to choose for you. If you are not willing to send a list for your picks to keep the draft moving, you should not sign up to play. Players who cause delays in the draft will be replaced.

If someone makes an invalid pick, the commish (me) will explain why the pick doesn't work and that team will pick again. However, if other teams have already made their picks, those picks will count (in order to avoid having to redo stretches of the draft). So if you try to get tricky with your picks and get burned, don't blame me.

[Mustang]

Draft order is by the team numbers above.

Sticking with the 'can't use a day before or after a date' rule. (No negative comments so, will go with that.

Barkeep is on the clock. Figure there are 5 really recognizable dates that will go in the first few picks.

In hindsight probably could have just more called this a Historical Event draft with the constraints being the dates/months

[wade moore]

I know I'm not drafting - but rules question.. are multiple picks in the same year allowed?

[Mustang]

I know I'm not drafting - but rules question.. are multiple picks in the same year allowed?

Yep. Only limit is 1 pick per month and the date limitation (If someone takes Jan 2nd, then Jan 1st, 2nd and 3rd are out of play).

So, if someone wants to load up on the year 1583, have at it...

[Barkeep49]

Ok there were two different dates that seemed worthy of a #1 pick, however I'm I couldn't find a good category for my second idea. So I'm picking July 4, 1776 and putting it in Politics.

[wade moore]

Nice start to the draft imo Barkeep.

[Neon_Chaos]

It's a snake draft, right?

[Barkeep49]

Ok there were two different dates that seemed worthy of a #1 pick, however I'm I couldn't find a good category for my second idea. So I'm picking July 4, 1776 and putting it in Politics.
I don't think there's any confusion, but I am talking about the adoption of the Declaration of Independence on that date :).

[Maple Leafs]

I don't think there's any confusion, but I am talking about the adoption of the Declaration of Independence on that date :).Of which country?

[Neon_Chaos]

Of which country?

The United States

of what?

Of America.

which America?

North America!!!

:D

[korme]

Please explain July 4, 1776

(Only asking so we keep a theme of everyone describing the date and why they picked it, even for the obvious ones like this)

[Mustang]

I would of used July 4th because of the movie Independence Day but, hey.. if you want to use it for the Declaration of Independence signing... :rolleyes:

[lordscarlet]

We haven't seen one of these in a while -- I am definitely going to try to keep up.

[Maple Leafs]

I'm going to pick exclusively Canadian events and try to be the first person to ever get zero votes in one of these. Wait until I choose Canada burning down the White House in 1814 as my top pick.

[TredWel]

There aren't many dates that are known by a single letter.

1.2: Military Event - June 6, 1944 (D-Day, Battle of Normandy).

[Neon_Chaos]

Nice solid top-2 picks.

[ntndeacon]

I guess there are more known dates, but most fall into the same categories, so I will go a little off the beaten track.
1.3 Scientific Event--July 20, 1969 1st manned landing on the moon

[Neon_Chaos]

I had my eye on that one, hoped that it would slip to me. I would've taken the 21st and the "One Small Step..." line and put it on TV.

[Maple Leafs]

If we're drafting dates, might as well take the one that will live in infamy...

1.4 - December 7, 1941 - The attack on Pearl Harbor (Military)

[Barkeep49]

I would of used July 4th because of the movie Independence Day but, hey.. if you want to use it for the Declaration of Independence signing... :rolleyes:
I have a couple ideas for that category.
I choose the 4th of July because it is date all that known. I think the US is a pretty special place and that is seen as the beginning of the country. Not to mention it is, in my opinion, one of the greatest pieces of political rhetoric every.

[Mustang]

Radii selects - Nov 22, 1963 - President John F Kennedy is assassinated (birth/death).

Not his comment but, good choice. Things sure went a different direction in the U.S after that.

The Moon Landing and Pearl Harbor were has #1 and #2 choices.

NOTE: There might be a delay for Bucc at #7. He is going via email and I'm not sure he has my email addy yet.

[Radii]

Cool, I'll take it even if it was my 3rd choice. July 4th was probably the easy consensus #1, but to me the Moon Landing was a easy #2, I can't imagine that there's anything else that will go in that category that will evoke similar emotion or importance with the group here. All very good picks so far IMO.

[Buccaneer]

I'm here, taking the day off. I have to wait for path, right?

[Buccaneer]

I like 1.1 and 1.2 a lot but not so hot about 1.3 and 1.4 simply because I could have not recalled those dates off the top of my head. Definitely significant events but date worthy?

[Mustang]

I'm here, taking the day off. I have to wait for path, right?

Yep, Path is #6 and you are #7....

[Barkeep49]

Mustang: How much flexibility do we have to change our placement? So, for instance, could I later move my July 4th to Potporri? Or are we locked into the slot we draft it in?

[Mustang]

I like 1.1 and 1.2 a lot but not so hot about 1.3 and 1.4 simply because I could have not recalled those dates off the top of my head. Definitely significant events but date worthy?

You couldn't remember the date of the attack on Pearl Harbor?

I had the 21st for the Moon Landing stuck in my head, not the 20th.

[Buccaneer]

Can we also get a list of picks chosen at the top?

[Maple Leafs]

I like 1.1 and 1.2 a lot but not so hot about 1.3 and 1.4 simply because I could have not recalled those dates off the top of my head. Definitely significant events but date worthy?
Man, I'm Canadian and even I knew the date for Pearl Harbor.

[Buccaneer]

You couldn't remember the date of the attack on Pearl Harbor?

I had the 21st for the Moon Landing stuck in my head, not the 20th.

My mistake, that's why I asked for a list. The two that I didn't like as much were the Apollo and Kennedy (whatever picks they were). I knew the month and year.

[Mustang]

Mustang: How much flexibility do we have to change our placement? So, for instance, could I later move my July 4th to Potporri? Or are we locked into the slot we draft it in?

How did Maple Leafs handle it?

I'm ok for changing.

[path12]

I'm not sure which category this goes in, so I guess it will be my potluck choice:

1.6 Potluck -- September 11, 2001 World Trade Center attack

Still waiting on the total ramifications, but it certainly changed the country.

[Neon_Chaos]

Steal at 1.6

[Buccaneer]

Damn it path, that was going to be my pick. I thought that would have gone 1.1 or 1.2. Got to think about this...

[path12]

Damn it path, that was going to be my pick. I thought that would have gone 1.1 or 1.2. Got to think about this...

I had actually forgotten about the Declaration of Independence! 9/11 was my number 1 all along.

[Maple Leafs]

Yeah, 9/11 is a tough one to figure in this draft.

On the one hand, it's probably the most recent event that will be picked, and we're still living the consequences. On the other hand, and without turning this into a debate thread, it's somewhat difficult to guage it's historical significance compared to some of the other events that will be picked.

That said, it's a date draft, and that's certainly a very famous date.

[Barkeep49]

9/11 was going to be my pick. However, I couldn't find a place where I liked it. I was going to slot it in television before deciding to go with July 4th with its natural slot in Politics.

[Buccaneer]

I just realize Mustang is playing too. Makes it hard to bounce a ruling. It's only the 1st round and I'm already thinking about being controversal.

[Coffee Warlord]

Damn, wish I had gotten in on this. Like the picks thus far. I woulda snagged Pearl Harbor at #1.

[Mustang]

I just realize Mustang is playing too. Makes it hard to bounce a ruling. It's only the 1st round and I'm already thinking about being controversal.

I'm pretty impartial but, can defer to an observer.

[lordscarlet]

Yeah, 9/11 is a tough one to figure in this draft.

On the one hand, it's probably the most recent event that will be picked, and we're still living the consequences. On the other hand, and without turning this into a debate thread, it's somewhat difficult to guage it's historical significance compared to some of the other events that will be picked.

That said, it's a date draft, and that's certainly a very famous date.

That's my thought. It is certainly far less significant than the Declaration of Independence (without which it has no significance whatsoever) as well as some other dates that have not yet been mentioned. I think when you look at final rosters that 9/11 will have been chosen too early.

[lordscarlet]

I just realize Mustang is playing too. Makes it hard to bounce a ruling. It's only the 1st round and I'm already thinking about being controversal.

I'm happy to be an impartial judge. :)

[Buccaneer]

lord, you got a PM.

[Maple Leafs]

I just realize Mustang is playing too. Makes it hard to bounce a ruling. It's only the 1st round and I'm already thinking about being controversal.
If it's a controversy about what category something fits in, then we usually just let the voters decide.

[Buccaneer]

If it's a controversy about what category something fits in, then we usually just let the voters decide.

Yeah, but then I catch a lot of grief in the meantime. ;)

[Mustang]

I think Bucc is going to use my date.

[Maple Leafs]

There are also some rather obvious picks that have the issue of the date not being agreed on. I think that's another one where you just have to accept that if you use it, some voters will slap you down. Others will reward you. You takes your chances.

So... just pick already, Bucc.

[Bee]

My birthday of 9/12 is now off the table. You guys just didn't move fast enough to get the game winner...

[Buccaneer]

Oh ok..

Birthday/Death : December 25, 4 BC - Commemorative birth of Christ.

[Maple Leafs]

My original post was "... just pick Christmas already, Bucc" but I thought I'd be nice.

[Mustang]

Oh ok..

Birthday/Death : December 25, 4 BC - Commemorative birth of Christ.

Asshat... :D

Although, the anti-religious element of me would really like to put that in the fiction category. :p

[Neon_Chaos]

Controversial pick #1


:)

[Coffee Warlord]

Heh! I was wondering who'd pull that one off the second I saw a birthday category.

edit: And for what it's worth from the peanut gallery, despite the obvious controveries, it's a totally legitimate pick in my mind.

[lordscarlet]

Yeah, but then I catch a lot of grief in the meantime. ;)

I think that's the risk you take if you're trying to be clever. :)

[Barkeep49]

I think that's a great pick there and one I hadn't thought of doing.

[path12]

I've got no problem with that pick, it was on my list also.

[Buccaneer]

How did Maple Leafs handle it?

I'm ok for changing.

Did we get an official ruling saying we could change category later?

[larrymcg421]

Bucc took my pick. Thinking now...

[Buccaneer]

You guys know me, I try to be different. :)

[lordscarlet]

Asshat... :D

Although, the anti-religious element of me would really like to put that in the fiction category. :p

Except that scholars largely believe that a person existed that became the legend that is Jesus Christ. I think you could apply that individual to this category.

Heh! I was wondering who'd pull that one off the second I saw a birthday category.

edit: And for what it's worth from the peanut gallery, despite the obvious controveries, it's a totally legitimate pick in my mind.

I think the only question is on the date -- no one really knows when this man was born. Most Christian holidays are designed around old pagan rituals to make people more comfortable when converting.

However, I told Bucc in PM that it was a legitimate pick. It's just a risky one for some voters.

[lordscarlet]

Did we get an official ruling saying we could change category later?

It's not my draft, but I would think once you pick they're stuck.

[Maple Leafs]

Did we get an official ruling saying we could change category later?
I'd strongly recommened not allowing changes once the pick is posted.

Figuring out which categories to target first is a key stragegic element to these drafts. In a draft like this where there's some overlap (not to mention a wildcard category) it loses a lot of the fun if you can just move your picks around.

[MikeVic]

Shame Maple Leafs. I really wanted to see all Canadian dates. I bet this will be dominated by U.S. dates, and I just don't know those at all (not that I know Canadian dates well, but I'd be more interested in them). :)

[Buccaneer]

Someday, I'll get one of the top 3 picks and make it easy. To me, the three most famous dates are 9/11, 7/4 and 12/7 plus 12/25 if you want the most anticipated holday of all time.

[Maple Leafs]

Shame Maple Leafs. I really wanted to see all Canadian dates. I bet this will be dominated by U.S. dates, and I just don't know those at all (not that I know Canadian dates well, but I'd be more interested in them). :)
Well, Pearl Harbor was a Canadian date, they just still believe that crap about it being the Ja --

But I've said too much.

[Neon_Chaos]

I can almost hear the scrambling fingers...

"www.google.com"

"Historic Dates"


:D

[larrymcg421]

Pre-17th century Europe:

August 3, 1492 - Columbus sets sail in the first of his voyages that would reach the Americas.

[Buccaneer]

Pre-17th century Europe:

August 3, 1942 - Columbus sets sail in the first of his voyages that would reach the Americas.

oops

[Neon_Chaos]

Where'd Mustang go?

[larrymcg421]

fixed typo

[Neon_Chaos]

Bah. larry fixed it. :D

[ntndeacon]

Oh ok..

Birthday/Death : December 25, 4 BC - Commemorative birth of Christ.

I knew this would probably be gone by the time it got around to me again but I thought about using Dec 25, 800 as my pre 17th century europe date.

[lordscarlet]

Someday, I'll get one of the top 3 picks and make it easy. To me, the three most famous dates are 9/11, 7/4 and 12/7 plus 12/25 if you want the most anticipated holday of all time.

I completely disagree.

[Buccaneer]

Year 800?

[ntndeacon]

Charlemagne's coronation

[Mustang]

Where'd Mustang go?

Sorry.. work called. Have mine in a min...

[Mustang]

Potluck - 5/8/1945 Victory in Europe. Day that won't stand the test of time probably but, significant event and date in our time.

[Neon_Chaos]

1.10 - Birthday: January 15, 1929 - Martin Luther King birthday

Quote from www3.kumc.edu/diversity/national/kingday.html

King was born on January 15, 1929 and gained national prominence during the Montgomery Bus Boycott. The boycott began when Rosa Parks, a 42 year old seamstress, refused to give up her seat to a white man on December 1, 1955. A Montgomery city ordinance at that time required black individuals to give up their seats to white individuals. The boycott lasted 381 days and served as the impetus in the creation of Southern Christian Leadership Conference. SCLC was founded by Dr. King and others in order to work for civil rights legislation.

From this point forward, King's name became virtually synonymous with the civil rights movement of the late 1950's and early 1960's. He was at the center of almost every major demonstration and was arrested many times. In April 1963, he composed Letter from the Birmingham Jail. Later that year, King delivered his most famous speech when he told participants in the March on Washington "I have a dream."

Martin Luther King Jr. Day is now one of the few true National Holidays celebrated by the United States, every third Monday of January, around the time of his birthday.

Next pick is something that might not be as popular as others, but its historical significance is unquestionable. Barely makes it in despite that Columbus crap. :)

2.1 - War: August 6, 1945 - The atomic bombing of Hiroshima.

The detonation of "Little boy" marks the first, and only one of two uses of Nuclear Weapons in the history of the world. Nine days later, Japan would surrender to the United States. It would usher in the atomic age, the Cold War, and fearful anticipation for the civilization-ending World War 3.

[path12]

Damnit. I was going to take Hiroshima next.

[Buccaneer]

I have been thinking about what the voters will think. Will they lean towards famous "dates" or famous "events"?

[sabotai]

There are a few dates I'm surprised haven't been picked yet. It's going to be interesting to see how many of the dates I considered obvious 1st round picks slip into the later rounds.

[sabotai]

I guess there are more known dates, but most fall into the same categories, so I will go a little off the beaten track.
1.3 Scientific Event--July 20, 1969 1st manned landing on the moon

OMFG, THIS NEVER HAPPENED!!


:p

[Mustang]

I have been thinking about what the voters will think. Will they lean towards famous "dates" or famous "events"?

Probably mixed.

[lordscarlet]

I have been thinking about what the voters will think. Will they lean towards famous "dates" or famous "events"?

For me, "events" are more important. If the choice is

a) an event I think is amazing but I don't remember when it was or
b) an event I know the date of but I don't find very significant

I'm going for (a).

[lordscarlet]

Can we get a draft-order list as well as a roster list in the first post?

[Neon_Chaos]

Can we get a draft-order list as well as a roster list in the first post?

We do have that.

[Mustang]

oops again. I was on the clock

8/29/2005 - (disaster) Katrina strikes New Orleans : Effects are still felt to this day with no immediate end.

[Barkeep49]

I wish I had more experience in these things since I don't have a good idea of what I should take when. I'm afraid of taking something too early.

[Mustang]

As a note, I'll be AFK on and off for the next few.

[Buccaneer]

larrymcg was just here.

[Maple Leafs]

8/29/2005 - (disaster) Katrina strikes New Orleans : Effects are still felt to this day with no immediate end.
OK, I'll say it... this is just an incredibly America-centric pick. Without denying it's impact, there have been so many disasters around the world that have been orders of magnitude worse that this pick seems out of place.

[Buccaneer]

OK, I'll say it... this is just an incredibly America-centric pick. Without denying it's impact, there have been so many disasters around the world that have been orders of magnitude worse that this pick seems out of place.

Yes, but how many have heard of most of them? It's a popular vote thing.

[Maple Leafs]

Yes, but how many have heard of most of them? It's a popular vote thing.
True enough.

[larrymcg421]

Scientific:

March 10, 1876 - Alexander Graham Bell successfully tansmits the first telephone call ("Mr Watson — Come here — I want to see you.") via a water transmitter.

[Mustang]

OK, I'll say it... this is just an incredibly America-centric pick. Without denying it's impact, there have been so many disasters around the world that have been orders of magnitude worse that this pick seems out of place.

In my defense, I would have taken the Tsunami hands down but, the date was blocked.

[MikeVic]

Scientific:

March 10, 1876 - Alexander Graham Bell successfully tansmits the first telephone call ("Mr Watson — Come here — I want to see you.") via a water transmitter.

That should have been Maple Leafs' pick.

I bet I know what sporting event he picks in 1993... :cool:

[Buccaneer]

Television Moment: February 28, 1983 - M*A*S*H Finale

[Buccaneer]

For Shorty, that's still the most popular TV event of all time.

[lordscarlet]

We do have that.

doh. i suck.

[Mustang]

PRIZE NOTE: I have too many freakin boardgames downstairs so...

Whomever 'wins', I'll send them a free copy of Chronology

(If for some reason I can't find the copy, I'll send something else. If in the event my America-centric dates win, I'll send it to the #2 place. ;) :D )

[path12]

Natural Disaster: August 24, 79 -- Mt Vesuvius erupts, destroying Pompeii.

[lordscarlet]

Natural Disaster: August 24, 79 -- Mt Vesuvius erupts, destroying Pompeii.

Now that is a steal.

[Coffee Warlord]

Now that is a steal.

In the 2nd round? I dunno about that.

[lordscarlet]

dola: I don't think September 11, 2001 is the sixth most significant date in United States history, much less world history.

[lordscarlet]

In the 2nd round? I dunno about that.

Certainly more so than September 11 was. I think if you poll people on the biggest disasters in history, that is one of the top choices. I also think that "disaster" is a fairly shallow category, although not the most shallow. People seem to underestimate the value of category depth, and are even far more American centric that I thought they would be.

[Barkeep49]

dola: I don't think September 11, 2001 is the sixth most significant date in United States history, much less world history.
I think the problem comes in the Date/Event qualification. If we're drafting Dates I think September 11th is top 3 material (along with Pearl Harbor and July 4th). If we're talking events, then I agree with you.

[Barkeep49]

I struggle with the "Natural" part of Natural Disaster, quite frankly.

[Coffee Warlord]

Certainly more so than September 11 was. I think if you poll people on the biggest disasters in history, that is one of the top choices. I also think that "disaster" is a fairly shallow category, although not the most shallow. People seem to underestimate the value of category depth, and are even far more American centric that I thought they would be.

You misunderstand me, and as a slight tangent, you're a little trigger happy on the hole 'it's american-centric' shot, IMO.

What I was more referring to is the fact that, in my mind, there were several better dates to pick (not in the disaster category, but overall) that would be better this early in the draft.

[path12]

Having to have separate months for each pick, as well as blacked out days makes it necessary to not always grab what one might think is the 'top' pick at a given time.

[lordscarlet]

I think the problem comes in the Date/Event qualification. If we're drafting Dates I think September 11th is top 3 material (along with Pearl Harbor and July 4th). If we're talking events, then I agree with you.

They're both in the title. :)

You misunderstand me, and as a slight tangent, you're a little trigger happy on the hole 'it's american-centric' shot, IMO.

What I was more referring to is the fact that, in my mind, there were several better dates to pick (not in the disaster category, but overall) that would be better this early in the draft.

I am a bit trigger happy with it, but of the first 12 picks, 11 are America-centric (counting the WWII events as America-centric), so I'm not too off-base here. But IMO it was a great pick because it's a shallow category. There are only a handful of natural disasters that have an agreed upon date that are as memorable over the test of time as Pompeii. Particularly when Katrina, a footnote at best over the past 100 years (and possibly not in the top 5 over the past decade), was picked before it.

My view on these drafts is that you don't go for the "best value" picks. You go for the top picks in the shallow categories.

[Maple Leafs]

Having to have separate months for each pick...
Holy crap, I completely missed this part (even though it's right there in the rules).

[Buccaneer]

Which led to my earlier question. Will the date prevail over the event or will event regardless of date prevail in the voter's minds? Let's take Vesuvius. Great event, totally irrelevant date. I do, however, think by having to go with different months is a fascinating twist.

[ntndeacon]

I bet events will be strong in the voters mind.

[Maple Leafs]

This is so nitpicky I'm almost embarassed to post it, but... does the Feb. 28 event eliminate March 1, or just Feb. 29?

[Neon_Chaos]

Who's on the clock?

[Maple Leafs]

I think Radii is.

[path12]

I believe it would be Radii.

[lordscarlet]

This is so nitpicky I'm almost embarassed to post it, but... does the Feb. 28 event eliminate March 1, or just Feb. 29?

Wow. That is a good question.

[lordscarlet]

Uh.. Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but I think this is going to get very hard. If every selection eliminates three days, then there will only be 5 (6 if you count feb. 29) days that are left eligible at the end of the draft. This may prove to be near impossible to get selections in the later rounds. :)

10 * 12 * 3 = 360

[lordscarlet]

dola: I guess that's a bit of a simplification.. some of the 3 day ranges could overlap..

e.g.: I select March 2, it wips out March 1, 2,3. Someone chooses March 4, it wipes out March 3,4,5.. but that's still 5 days for every two picks..

[Buccaneer]

ML, that is an excellent question.

[Mustang]

This is so nitpicky I'm almost embarassed to post it, but... does the Feb. 28 event eliminate March 1, or just Feb. 29?

Feb 29th. Still is a valid date albeit only every 4 years.

[Maple Leafs]

Uh.. Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but I think this is going to get very hard. If every selection eliminates three days, then there will only be 5 (6 if you count feb. 29) days that are left eligible at the end of the draft. This may prove to be near impossible to get selections in the later rounds. :)

10 * 12 * 3 = 360
Pretty much. That's the beauty of it.

That said, the restriction of one pick per month (which dummies like me only noticed now) means that it's possible you could have no valid picks in later rounds. For example, you only have April left to fill but there are no eligible dates to choose from.

So I think we either need to loosen the rules of (and this could be fun) force people to pass if they can't find an eligible pick. So some people could wind up with 12 picks, others would have less, with categories unfilled.

[Neon_Chaos]

Uh.. Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but I think this is going to get very hard. If every selection eliminates three days, then there will only be 5 (6 if you count feb. 29) days that are left eligible at the end of the draft. This may prove to be near impossible to get selections in the later rounds. :)

10 * 12 * 3 = 360

Thank God for Wikipedia.

:D

[Buccaneer]

lord, I think that is the beauty of this contest. It may get down to a few dates that you have to fill and we will be scrambling to find something, anything that happened on that date for the category.

[Neon_Chaos]

We're going to end up with some obscure baron being given a pig by some king on a certain date.

On with the show, then! :)

[Buccaneer]

We're going to end up with some obscure baron being given a pig by some King on a certain date.

On with the show, then! :)

LOL. Now that's funny.

[Radii]

I'm a big fan of assassinations, apparently, stealing away this famous death and moving it to another category.

2.6 - March 15th, 44 B.C. - Julius Caesar is assassinated by a group of conspirators in the Roman Senate (Politics)


While this is of course a famous death, its also a political conspiracy at the highest level in one of the greatest powers in world history. Caesar's death led to a civil war, the end of the Roman Republic, and the formation of the Roman Empire

[lordscarlet]

I was wondering when Caesar's assassination was going to be selected.

Also, I think the range of available days is:

5-124. (For those obsessed with this like I am :) )

I think the days blacked out are at a minimum: (n*3) - (n-1) and at a maximum: (n*3)

[path12]

Nice. Looks like I'm finding something else for March.

[Radii]

I was wondering when Caesar's assassination was going to be selected.


It may well be too soon. Right or wrong, playing to the voters here will likely mean having a very "america-centric" draft. I'm hoping on this one that the fame of the event itself, combined with the fact that its an extremely well known date, makes it a pick worth taking this early and will play well with people judging events and others judging primarily well known dates.

[Mustang]

Uh.. Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but I think this is going to get very hard. If every selection eliminates three days, then there will only be 5 (6 if you count feb. 29) days that are left eligible at the end of the draft. This may prove to be near impossible to get selections in the later rounds. :)

10 * 12 * 3 = 360

Incorrect.

Not every day eliminates 3 days. You could have someone select Feb 2nd which would eliminate 1st and 3rd days but, then select Feb 4th but, Feb 3rd is already gone so, you just eliminate 1 more day in Feb 5th

Should be safe because the worst case is to select a day every 3 days.. example Feb 2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26,29 and that is 10 days available.

Unless I'm missing something.

But, as I had originally stated, my intent was to make it more 'draft' like where your choices would get infinitely whittled down to a last choice of September 19th - Boxcar Willy performs for his record 100th time on Hee-Haw as your television moment.

7/4/1776 = Drafting LT #1 over in the fantasy draft this year.. mostly a no brainer.
Last date available = WTF.. NOTHING happened on that date??? good god!

[ntndeacon]

crap! I was planning on that one lol

[Mustang]

Damn... I was hoping Caesar was going to fall. (no pun intended)

[Neon_Chaos]

Nice pick Radii.

[Mustang]

I hate my draft already.... I feel like I just drafted Cedric Benson and Brandon Jackson.

[Buccaneer]

How people would know that this particular Caesar was assassinated as oppose to other Caesers that were or were not?

[Buccaneer]

I think it would, unfortunately, be important that the first post be updated else we might have some conflicted picks.

[Maple Leafs]

Birthday/Death: June 28, 1914 - Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand

[Maple Leafs]

I think it would, unfortunately, be important that the first post be updated else we might have some conflicted picks.
I printed off a one-page calendar and am scratching the dates off as we go. Highly recommended.

[ntndeacon]

I was going to use the date as my fictional spot from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.

[sabotai]

It may well be too soon.

FWIW, the "Ides of March" was one of the no-brainer 1st round picks I was thinking about earlier. We may be an American-centric board, but I think we're also generally well educated.

And not to mention, the popularity of the TV show Rome. :)

[ntndeacon]

Pre-17th century Europe : August 8,1588 The English defeat of the Spanish Armada

[Mustang]

There's a run on August....

[lordscarlet]

Incorrect.


See my later post(s) :)

I'm just stating that it makes things very interesting, not that it was the wrong way to set things up. :)

[TredWel]

One of the most famous events in European History.

2.9: Pre-17th century Europe - October 14, 1066 - The Battle of Hastings.

I'll be stepping away for about an hour.

[Neon_Chaos]

MOTHERF. I was hoping Hastings would fall. :(

[Mustang]

See my later post(s) :)


oops. :)

I was just verifying your followup statement. :D

[Barkeep49]

I was going to use the date as my fictional spot from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.
I really had hoped that I was going to get this with 2.10 or 3.1 for this exact same purpose. It was one of the reasons I asked about reslotting since it fits nicely in either fiction or Death (or politics but that's filled for me).

[Barkeep49]

With 2.10 I'm going to take the Beatles appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show on Feb 9, 1964. Certainly not a counter to the American Centric charge, but a famous moment in television history, with-out a doubt. Perhaps the most famous moment for the best band in English speaking history. I'm going to put in Television for the time being.

I need to think for a few minutes on 3.1 as I'd hoped to nab Caesar here.

[Barkeep49]

Ok I'm going to go with a slight (ok total) stretch pick here, but I'd really had my heart set on Caesar and I'm worried about finding anything of substance in this category later on.

With pick 3.1 I'm going to pick November 12, 1955 at precisely 10:04 PM. Everyone knows that lightening strikes the clock tower at that moment allowing Marty McFly to return to 1985 safe and sound.

Quite frankly beyond Caesar being killed I can't think of any dates associated with fiction and this seems like a solid one in a tough category.

[Neon_Chaos]

Boo. Boo on the Beatles pick. :(

[Radii]

With pick 3.1 I'm going to pick November 12, 1955 at precisely 10:04 PM. Everyone knows that lightening strikes the clock tower at that moment allowing Marty McFly to return to 1985 safe and sound.



Brilliant IMO

[Neon_Chaos]

Aaaaand... Barkeep is just going to kill us with his picks.

[Buccaneer]

The Beatles were my second choice for TV but I went instead with the most watched TV event.

I love the Back to the Future pick, far better than something (Caeser) that only a few would know.

[Mustang]

With pick 3.1 I'm going to pick November 12, 1955 at precisely 10:04 PM. Everyone knows that lightening strikes the clock tower at that moment allowing Marty McFly to return to 1985 safe and sound.


Nice.

Actually what the intent was. A purely fictional event on a date.

[TredWel]

With pick 3.1 I'm going to pick November 12, 1955 at precisely 10:04 PM. Everyone knows that lightening strikes the clock tower at that moment allowing Marty McFly to return to 1985 safe and sound.

I was actually seriously considering going with this one at 3.2. Great pick.

[lordscarlet]

With 2.10 I'm going to take the Beatles appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show on Feb 9, 1964. Certainly not a counter to the American Centric charge, but a famous moment in television history, with-out a doubt. Perhaps the most famous moment for the best band in English speaking history. I'm going to put in Television for the time being.

I need to think for a few minutes on 3.1 as I'd hoped to nab Caesar here.

I think it'll be much harder to not have an American-Centric television event.

[Barkeep49]

I was actually seriously considering going with this one at 3.2. Great pick.
That makes me feel a lot better. I appreciate all the kind words everyone has had for the pick. Perhaps not quite the stretch that I thought :).

[TredWel]

One of the most destructive events in American History. About 3,000 people died, and between half and three-quarters of the city's population were rendered homeless.

3.2: Natural Disaster - April 18, 1906 - San Francisco Earthquake of 1906.

[Buccaneer]

DAGNABBIT. That was going to MY pick. :mad: That is the most famous natural disaster in US history, along with Katrina for those with short memories. Damn.

[Barkeep49]

I like the San Francisco pick a lot. It was definitely the #1 pick on my draft board at that position (though I'd forgotten about Viscivious).

[oliegirl]

I like the San Francisco pick a lot. It was definitely the #1 pick on my draft board at that position (though I'd forgotten about Viscivious).

Uhh...did you mean Vesuvius????

[Greyroofoo]

Oh, if anyone wants to get some good points from this voter my birthday is May 4th (Date of Death is to be announced)

[Barkeep49]

Uhh...did you mean Vesuvius????
Yeah. Spelling isn't my thing.

[Coffee Warlord]

That makes me feel a lot better. I appreciate all the kind words everyone has had for the pick. Perhaps not quite the stretch that I thought :).

Heh, the peanut gallery had that one in mind, too.

[ntndeacon]

This might be a bit early but fictional dates seem to be a thinner category. This date is now celebrated throughout the world as Bloomsday...
Fictional Dates: June 16, 1904 The day in Ulysses. (Leopold Bloom walks around Dublin)

[Greyroofoo]

I have no idea what that date means

[Neon_Chaos]

Neither do I.

[Mustang]

And, I too, do not know what that date is....

[ntndeacon]

obviously it will drop me down then.
The Book Ulysses by James Joyce tells of Leopold Blooms travels through Dublin on June 16 1904. It sorta follows the Homer story of Odesseuss

[Maple Leafs]

3.4 - November 9, 1989 - The fall of the Berlin Wall (politics)

I think everyone who's old enough remembers watching the aftermath on television. The part of the story that not everybody knows is that this monumental event in history was basically an accident. German officials had decided to ease some of the restrictions on travel, but the official who made the public announcement had just returned from vacation and wasn't clear on the details. He was handed a note before his press conference with incomplete information and the day's date on it. He read it out loud on live TV without fully understanding what it would mean.

Tens of thousands heard the announcement and flooded the wall, nobody would authorize the guards to use force, and the checkpoints opened. The rest was, literally, history.

[Radii]

3.5 - December 28th, 1958 - Baltimore 23, New York 17 (OT) - NFL Championship Game (Television Moment)

This obviously could go in the sports category as well, but the tie-in to television is critical to the lore behind this game. As a television event, this game was televised nationally, a rarity at the time. The game was also the first sudden death overtime game ever in the NFL.

This game is dubbed "The Greatest Game Ever Played" and is seen as the launching point of the NFL towards the incredible popularity that it has now, and the incredible television viewing event that every Sunday in the fall and winter has become.

This game doesn't have nearly the significance in NFL lore without Television.

[Radii]

good pick maple leafs, I would not have thought of that.

[Buccaneer]

I'm going to work now and will try to keep up via email to Mustang. I copied the first post so I know where were are as of now but if Mustang can update me via email (I'll send the first one), we can keep this moving. Thanks.

[Coffee Warlord]

3.4 - November 9, 1989 - The fall of the Berlin Wall (politics)

Nice one.

[Maple Leafs]

Bump for Path 12?

[Mustang]

Any anyone catches any 'oopsies' let me know. Saw that I didn't have Dec 26th blacked out.

[path12]

Hang on a sec, west coast you know......

[path12]

October 31, 1517 -- Martin Luther starts the Reformation with his 95 Theses.
(Pre 17th Century Europe)

[Mustang]

Thought someone would have tried to hang something related to Halloween on 10/31

[Mustang]

Waiting on Buc but, if nothing in 15 mins, gotta step away for an hour.

So, if anyone wants to PM their next picks, have at it.

[Maple Leafs]

Mustang, Bucc had mentioned he was going to send a pick when you e-mailed him.

[Mustang]

Yep, tried to get it before I left.


Bucc selects

19th Century - April 14, 1865: Lincoln's Assassination

[Barkeep49]

Good pick by Bucc. I definitely had that on my list of Births/Deaths

[larrymcg421]

Picking now...

[larrymcg421]

Politics:

May 17, 1954 - Brown v. Board of Education decision handed down by Supreme Court

[Mustang]

3.9 - (birthday/death) June 10 323 BC, Alexander the Great dies. By the time of his death, Alexander the Great had conquered most of the known world.


(On a side note, I really wanted the Magna Carta signing to be my political event but, it was blocked)

[Neon_Chaos]

Oh great. My turn?

[Mustang]

Yes but, you have time. I have to step out.

[Neon_Chaos]

3.10 - Politics: Nov. 19, 1863. The Gettysburg Address. One of the most quoted speeches in United States history, and Abraham Lincoln's most famous speech. "Four score and seven years ago..."

4.1 will have to take me some more time to think about...

[Neon_Chaos]

4.1 Television: March 21, 1980, Who Shot JR? In a stroke of brilliance, the CBS show Dallas ended its season with a major cliffhanger, who shot JR Ewing? This one event ushered in the practice of ending seasons with cliffhangers to hang on to viewership. This remains as the single most watched non-series-ending episode of any TV series in the entire world.

To quote Wikipedia regarding the worldwide reach of the event:

During the summer of 1980, the question "Who shot J.R.?" was asked in everyday conversations across America and worldwide. T-shirts printed with such references as "Who Shot J.R.?" and "I Shot J.R.!" became common over the summer. Betting parlors worldwide took bets as to which one of the 10 or so principal characters had actually pulled the trigger. A session of the Turkish parliament was suspended to allow legislators a chance to get home in time to view the Dallas episode.

[sabotai]

And Neon_Chaos has secured SkyDog's vote.

[Barkeep49]

I think those are both solid picks. I particularly like the Who Shot JR pick. A landmark moment indeed in television history.

[Mustang]

Politics : 1/30/33 - Hitler sworn in as Chancellor of Germany

[Coffee Warlord]

Politics : 1/30/33 - Hitler sworn in as Chancellor of Germany

You Nazi bastard. :)

(Kidding of course. Nice pick - one I never thought of)

[Buccaneer]

There were 5 TV moments I had in mind: MASH, JR and one other. It's like the Civil War one where the choices were all equally good.

[larrymcg421]

This one kinda fits coming right after....


Sports: June 22, 1937 - Joe Louis knocks out Max Schmeling

[Buccaneer]

Potluck: November 29, 1623 - First Thanksgiving

[Maple Leafs]

There were 5 TV moments I had in mind: MASH, JR and one other.
Awesome.

[Neon_Chaos]

Awesome.

Lol

[Buccaneer]

Wait till you get to my age, everything accelerates and 3 becomes 5.

I checked my PM and the other one was the Beatles. There were two that I can't mention yet so that makes 5 obvious choices.

[Neon_Chaos]

Are you sure it's age? It's most likely Monty Python-itis.

[ntndeacon]

the next sign is the longing to cut down the largest tree in the forest with............a herring

[Mustang]

I checked my PM and the other one was the Beatles. There were two that I can't mention yet so that makes 5 obvious choices.

Would anyone have raised an eyebrow if the planes crashing into the twin towers on 9/11 was the top TV moment?

[Mustang]

If anyone is ok with this, when we get towards the end, if you are the last person that needs a given month, just go ahead and post it as your last round pick right away since no one else can take an event in that month, shouldn't affect anything

[Barkeep49]

If anyone is ok with this, when we get towards the end, if you are the last person that needs a given month, just go ahead and post it as your last round pick right away since no one else can take an event in that month, shouldn't affect anything
Works for me.

[path12]

Sorry, got home late. I'll have a pick in a sec.

[path12]

May 4, 1911 -- Sherlock Holmes kills his nemesis Professor Moriarty at Reichenbach Falls in Switzerland. (Fictional date)

[Neon_Chaos]

I would love to see what Barkeep selects has his final pick. :)

[ntndeacon]

That was the only other fictional date I could think of path. nice selection

[Mustang]

That was the only other fictional date I could think of path. nice selection

August 4, 1997... Skynet comes online. (Terminator) would have been a really good one.

[Radii]

4.6 - Fictional Event - September 22, 2004 - Oceanic Flight 815 crashes on a mysterious island in the series premiere of Lost

[Buccaneer]

That was the only other fictional date I could think of path. nice selection

Don't read much? :)

[Maple Leafs]

4.7 - October 5, 1957 - The surprise launch of Sputnik 1, the first successful space launch (Science)

[ntndeacon]

Don't read much? :)

Oh I read a good bit. But cannot remember the dates of things too well.

[ntndeacon]

4.8 November 16, 1981 Luke Spenser marries Laura Webber on General Hospital (Television event)

[TredWel]

4.9 - December 17, 1903: The Wright Brothers make the first heaver-than-air human flight (Science)

[Maple Leafs]

4.7 - October 5, 1957 - The surprise launch of Sputnik 1, the first successful space launch (Science)
4.8 November 16, 1981 Luke Spenser marries Laura Webber on General Hospital (Television event)
4.9 - December 17, 1903: The Wright Brothers make the first heaver-than-air human flight (Science)
This draft makes my head hurt.

[Barkeep49]

4.10 - April 26, 1986: Meltdown at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (Natural Disaster)

[Maple Leafs]

4.10 - April 26, 1986: Meltdown at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (Natural Disaster)
Interesting pick. I'd been trying to figure out if this counted as a natural disaster or not.

[Neon_Chaos]

Hmmm... that's straddling the line with Natural Disasters. Because it will open up a can of worms with regards to that category.

[Barkeep49]

5.1 - October 22, 1878: Thomas Edison conducts first successful test of the filament light bulb (Scientific)

[Barkeep49]

Interesting pick. I'd been trying to figure out if this counted as a natural disaster or not.

Hmmm... that's straddling the line with Natural Disasters. Because it will open up a can of worms with regards to that category.

If our illustrious judge, Mustang, doesn't like it, as I admit it's a gray area, I'll repick.

[Maple Leafs]

As always, I'd prefer to let the voters decide. If I want to picks the opening weekend of Gigli as a Natural Disaster I should be able to. It might cost me all my votes, though.

[TredWel]

Could not find a specific year for this event, but I don't think it will be a problem.

5.2 - Feb 2, 1992: Events of the movie "Groundhog Day" - Meteorologist Phil Connors is trapped in a seemingly endless time loop while reporting from Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania. (Fictional Event)

[Coffee Warlord]

Re: The nuclear meltdown pick. I don't have a problem with it. It's listed under disasters in Sim City, even!

[Maple Leafs]

Re: The nuclear meltdown pick. I don't have a problem with it. It's listed under disasters in Sim City, even!
Well, that opens the door to the Godzilla attacks...

[path12]

Well, that opens the door to the Godzilla attacks...

I think that date is already gone.

[Maple Leafs]

Paging NTNDeacon...

[Radii]

Could not find a specific year for this event, but I don't think it will be a problem.

5.2 - Feb 2, 1992: Events of the movie "Groundhog Day" - Meteorologist Phil Connors is trapped in a seemingly endless time loop while reporting from Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania. (Fictional Event)


I was going to go w/ that and generally think its a solid pick, but I avoided it because I couldn't find a reference to the year that the plot was taking place in the movie, and thought it was a bit of a grey area.

[ntndeacon]

sorry was in a meeting then class. Will have one pretty quick.

[ntndeacon]

5.3 January 28, 1986 The Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster (potluck category)

[Mustang]

If our illustrious judge, Mustang, doesn't like it, as I admit it's a gray area, I'll repick.

I would say repick.

If a meteor crashed into the plant causing a meltdown sure but, in this case.. no.

[oliegirl]

5.3 January 28, 1986 The Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster (potluck category)

I'm actually really surprised this didn't go earlier...

[sabotai]

I agree with ML, fwiw. I like when the voters decide if a pick is good for the category or not. It opens the door to some real creativity in your pick, but also the chance it'll fall completely flat and hurt you in the end.

[Maple Leafs]

One of the cool things about history is that very often a seemingly minor event has enormous consequences. This is a good example: an Empire has a problem, and asks for help. They overstate the circumstances a bit to get people's attention and hope they might get a few soldiers sent their way to help. They ended up getting a whole lot more than that, and we're still dealing with the after effects almost 1,000 years later.

March 1, 1095 - The Byzantine Empire attends the Council of Piacenzaasks to ask for assistance against the Turks, leading to the organization of the First Crusade (Pre-17th century Europe)

[Maple Leafs]

5.3 January 28, 1986 The Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster (potluck category)
I would have put this in the Television category, actually.

[Radii]

working on my pick now...

[Radii]

5.5 April 30, 1803 - Louisiana Purchase (19th Century)

The United States doubles in size, purchasing the Louisiana Territory from the French. While securing ownership of the port of New Orleans was the original goal, in the end the US pays ~$23 million and obtains what is now nearly 1/4 of the modern United States area worth of land.

[path12]

5.6 November 24, 1859 -- Darwin publishes On The Origin Of Species. (Science)

Darwin establishes that all species have evolved over time via natural selection. The basis of modern evolutionary theory, and the subject of certain controversy from the date of publication until the present day.

[ntndeacon]

I would have put this in the Television category, actually.

I couldn't. I had something there already. I thought of this event after I had put in the Luke and Laura wedding. I probably would have otherwise.

[Mustang]

Working on getting the dates and current pick list updated. I'll fill in everyone's lists a little later.

[Buccaneer]

I was around this afternoon via email, so I could've made my pick earlier if asked.

Fictional Event (Date appearing in fictional material) : March 25, 3019 (Shire Reckoning) - The One Ring is destroyed and the Fall of Sauron

[Buccaneer]

I'm actually really surprised this didn't go earlier...

The Challenger disaster was the fourth TV moment I alluded to earlier, so I was surprised too.

[Greyroofoo]

I can't believe no one has picked my favorite fictional date yet.

[Neon_Chaos]

I was around this afternoon via email, so I could've made my pick earlier if asked.

Fictional Event (Date appearing in fictional material) : March 25, 3019 (Shire Reckoning) - The One Ring is destroyed and the Fall of Sauron

That is just so wrong.

:D

[Buccaneer]

That is just so wrong.

:D

No it isn't. I have it on page 1359. :)

[Logan]

As an outside observer (in this and the other drafts ML has conducted), I recommend that picks stick and the ambiguity either be rewarded or punished by the voters. (John Lennon, anyone?)

I first noticed this game due to the "Ameri-centric" thread, so I had a different understanding of how this was being played. IMO, if this was just titled "Historical Event Draft" with the condition that you had to list the actual date of the event so you couldn't have repeat months, bordering days, etc, it would be a whole different story than the current "Date/Event." As long as the game remains titled that way, I'll personally put as much thought into the recognizability, if you will, of the date in question as to the event taking place -- which, as has been discussed, are very different things.

I'll be following closely from now on.