College Football Week 7 Thread

[st.cronin]

I'm not really paying attention, but there's something on ESPN about Reggie Bush issues for USC. The big games this week are, obviously, Missouri @ Oklahoma, and LSU @ Kentucky. Also Navy @ Pitt.

[Dr. Sak]

Pitt is having a gold out...

[Logan]

How long has this replay been going? Seems like 10 minutes.

I don't see how it could possibly be considered going into the endzone when it clearly hit the guy's leg before going in.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii @ San Jose St. FRIDAY 8PM EST. on ESPN, yes thats right ESPN

ok watch.

[SirFozzie]

Oops. lost track of what week it was.

If you are at your TV.. put it on ESPN. Great F'n game.

[st.cronin]

Oops. lost track of what week it was.

If you are at your TV.. put it on ESPN. Great F'n game.

It really has been a classic.

[st.cronin]

That would have been a great place for a fake snap, Pitt wasn't ready to play at all.

[SirFozzie]

:11 to play.. they either need an out pattern to get yardage and out of bounds, a first down and an instant spike, or aCareer long FG...

[korme]

BEARCATS AND CARDINALS

Cincinnati winning on an average of 30 ppg, Louisville has 3 losses by a total of 18 points.

[SirFozzie]

:11 to play.. they either need an out pattern to get yardage and out of bounds, a first down and an instant spike, or aCareer long FG...

No good on the FG.. we are going to... Oooovertime

[st.cronin]

Terrible play-calling there by Pitt.

[SirFozzie]

Navy just bailed Pitt out with a neutral zone infraction on the FG.

[SirFozzie]

This could go on for a while..

[st.cronin]

Lou Holtz is hilarious. I want him to do more games.

[SFL Cat]

I would LUV to see the Wildcats knock off LSU.

Let me clarify...in football, not basketball.

[SFL Cat]

Terrible play-calling there by Pitt.

With Wan-stache as coach, that surprises you?!

[st.cronin]

I can't explain why Pitt called a single pass play in OT.

[SirFozzie]

Ok Navy wins 48-45, after a failed fourth down pass...

but how the fucking hell was that not pass interference on SOMEBODY??

[RendeR]

I have to say, I've always wondered about the hate for wanndstedt, but after watching him utterly and completely blow this game all by himself with pathetic play calling in overtime, I'm buying the hatred now.

That was the stupidest5 or 6 downs of playcalls I've ever seen.

Who the hell throws a FADE rout on 4th down????

GO NAVY!

[Swaggs]

Man... I hate Pitt, but I almost feel bad for them having Wannstache.

[RendeR]

Man... I hate Pitt, but I almost feel bad for them having Wannstache.

Don't bother, I have a feeling he won't be there next year. I can't imagine any school keeping something that obviously incompetant any longer.

[bhlloy]

Holy crap that was a horrific play call with the game on the line. Maybe Dave Wannstedt will find his niche in high school football when the Panthers can his ass? McCoy should punch him in the nuts for those two pass plays.

I can go either way on the pass interference call. The corner had his hands all over him early, but the ball was also not particularly well thrown and the corner has a right to establish position. I would have to see it a few more times.

[st.cronin]

I have to say, I've always wondered about the hate for wanndstedt, but after watching him utterly and completely blow this game all by himself with pathetic play calling in overtime, I'm buying the hatred now.

That was the stupidest5 or 6 downs of playcalls I've ever seen.

Who the hell throws a FADE rout on 4th down????

GO NAVY!

Especially when your running game has not exactly been scuffling. It seemed to me they were getting 5 yards or so every time they handed off. 3rd and 2, they call two consecutive passes? That just seems like they're not paying attention to what's going on out there.

[Young Drachma]

Yeah, I'd been reading about how bad a coach he was..but after watching the end of that game, it proved to me what you all had been saying. What a ridiculous set a playcalling in the red zone with the game on the line.

[Chief Rum]

Dorrell vs Wanstache--I would keep Dorrell, hands down.

[Logan]

Don't bother, I have a feeling he won't be there next year. I can't imagine any school keeping something that obviously incompetant any longer.

We've been saying this for I believe 3 years now.

The entire Big East thoroughly enjoys Pitt keeping him, because as soon as they bring even only a mildly mentally challenged person in to coach, they'll be a force with the talent they assembled.

[Dr. Sak]

Unfortunately I didn't get to see the end of the game but here are my thoughts on Wanny. I told my friends (mostly Pitt fans) that they would miss Walt Harris after a few years. All laughed at me, citing Wanny's NFL experierence as what they needed to get over the hump. Now they all tell me they wish they had Harris. Most Pitt fans point the blame on Harris because these are still his recruits, that's getting a little old. Wannstedt has had enough recruiting classes here now to put his mark on the program.

Wannstedt came in wanting to grasp back Western Pennsylvania in recruiting for Pitt. He has done a good job at that, but the only problem is that Western PA is not the hot bed for High School football it was 10 to 15 years ago. He's had highly ranked recruiting classes, but like Harris he has not recruited any OL or DL which shows as they are pushed around in the trenches each week. McCoy and Bostick are two players with a lot of upside but they need people to block for them. When 3 of the 5 guys on the OL are seniors and that is a weak point on the team, next year can't look that much better.

Wannstedt is a good recruiter but IMO a terrible game day coach. Under Harris he would only blow a game a year with his arrogant calls, Wannstedt has lost them quite a few that way. Harris would at least have his teams ready for the big games and upset a few teams he shouldn't have, I don't think Wannstedt has beaten a team he wasn't favored against.

I dont think Dave will be fired this year, he is too well liked in the inner Pitt circles but next year will be his final year if the team does not go to a bowl game.

[Butter]

Who the hell throws a FADE rout on 4th down????

Jim Harbaugh.

[WSUCougar]

I'm headed out to Portland tomorrow to visit with a couple of my best buddies, and to attend the Washington State vs. Oregon game at Autzen Stadium. Yeah, I know...but it should be a fun experience anyway.

Then it's off to Rogue Brewery in Newport to drown our sorrows (or celebrate a freakish upset win).

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

In the MU/OU game.........

---MU has not been ranked this high since I was in 1st grade (that's 1981).

---MU has not won in Norman in my lifetime. They last won in Norman 8 years before my birth (that's 1966).

Let me state for the record that I will openly weep like a schoolgirl if the Tigers can pull of a win on Saturday. I'll be so happy I won't even be embarrassed.

[molson]

Lou Holtz is hilarious. I want him to do more games.

He was awseome - very entertaining.

My favorite line of his, (reflecting on a difficult decision) "That's like trying to choose between Joan Collins and Linda Evans".

[Swaggs]

He was awseome - very entertaining.

My favorite line of his, (reflecting on a difficult decision) "That's like trying to choose between Joan Collins and Linda Evans".

Agreed. Lou was 100 times better as a color man than as a studio analyst. The Joan Collins and Linda Evans thing was funny and so was the (paraphrasing), "They say a tie in football is like kissing your sister, but I don't care, I hate overtime. Losing in overtime is like kissing your brother." :)

He was also very naturally humble, like when Rece Davis asked him a few times what he would do in those situations, he waffled a little bit, which is kind of refreshing. To me, it sort of showed that he didn't have a fixed set of rules to go by and that he played things by gut sometimes.

[Z²+]

Especially when your running game has not exactly been scuffling. It seemed to me they were getting 5 yards or so every time they handed off. 3rd and 2, they call two consecutive passes? That just seems like they're not paying attention to what's going on out there.

For what it's worth, I get to sit in on the post-game press conferences, and Coach Wannstedt responded to basically this same question, by saying that Navy was lining up 9 players in the box on the 3rd and 4th down plays in question, and that he was confident in the one-on-one matchups on the outside.

That said, I don't care if Navy lined up their entire 50 man roster in the box, if you've already decided you're in 4 down territory, and you've got 3rd and goal inside the 2, there's no excuse for not running your stud HB, who had 170 yards at this point, both times. I've supported Coach Wannstedt to this point, but he's starting to lose me, because this was just inexcusable.


Also, an interesting side point that I found very significant, that was overlooked unless you were actually at the game. On that final 2nd OT possession, on the 3rd down play from the 2, Pitt threw an incomplete pass, but was also flagged for an Illegal Motion penalty, which Navy declined (obviously thinking Pitt would then kick the FG on 4th down to tie the game and send it to 3rd OT). When Pitt sent their offense back onto the field, a coach on the Navy sideline (not sure if it was the Head Coach or not) grabbed the line judge and was trying to change the decision and accept the previous penalty -- while the game was on TV timeout, the Ref announced that the penalty decision could not be changed, because a timeout had been subsequently taken after the decision was made. But to my point, Nave declined the penalty because they wanted Pitt to kick -- but instead Pitt went for it and Navy won. If Navy accepts the penalty, Pitt probably kicks the FG to tie (although it would have been 3rd and goal from the 7, so maybe they get close and go for it again anway, who knows). Not overly important, but something that caught my attention as interesting.

[Logan]

If you want to pass, fine. But I hate hate HATE the fade route in that situation. It's a precision play with only one option. If the ball slips a bit in the QBs hand before he throws it, you're fucked. Not to mention you're throwing the ball without having a clue if there will be help in a certain area or a breakdown in coverage.

[dawgfan]

I'm headed out to Portland tomorrow to visit with a couple of my best buddies, and to attend the Washington State vs. Oregon game at Autzen Stadium. Yeah, I know...but it should be a fun experience anyway.

Then it's off to Rogue Brewery in Newport to drown our sorrows (or celebrate a freakish upset win).
I'll be curious to hear how your experience at Autzen goes - among Husky fans, Autzen has a reputation for overly belligerent, abusive fans if you go there wearing the opposing team's colors and logos.

[Huckleberry]

The biggest game of the year is this Saturday at noon when Principia College hosts Trinity Bible College. This game has become an annual contest to determine the worst team in the country. My ratings for the last 2 years have had these two teams in the bottom two positions each year. They are there again already this year. Same in Massey's system.

These two teams are so bad that they play each other twice every year. The UMAC has something called "Dome Day" every year where the teams from their North division take on the teams from their South division. Folks, college football doesn't get any worse than this. Every year Principia is the worst of the South, it seems, and Trinity Bible is the worst of the north.

So the game has major implications but there will be a chance for revenge in the HHH Metrodome for the loser. Upper Midwest Athletic Conference football. Catch the fever!

[miami_fan]

Gee whiz, this is not that difficult. The ball hit the Wake Forest player and the Nole player recovered it.

[ISiddiqui]

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen... WTF is wrong with these officials?!

[Noop]

These refs suck.

[SirFozzie]

that was... bizarre...
FSU Blocks a punt.. first down Wake Forest!

[Logan]

I've seen two official replays so far this week, and they've taken a combined 19 minutes.

[Galaxy]

Nice touchdown pass. What's Wake Forest's record?

[Eaglesfan27]

Today, USC officially announced that Sanchez will start this weekend. Our offensive line is banged up bad with 6 or 7 of the top 10 linemen out (4 of them were out last week as well), so it will be interesting to see how much protection he gets out there and what he can do.

[WSUCougar]

'Twas not so long ago that the concept of Wake Forest beating Florida State - ever, much less twice consecutively - was laughable. Now look at 'em go. Love it.

[dime]

'Twas not so long ago that the concept of Wake Forest beating Florida State - ever, much less twice consecutively - was laughable. Now look at 'em go. Love it.

Once they get that loser Rix out of there at quarterback, things will be back to normal...

[Blade6119]

Am I the only one not that impressed with Brennan so far? I mean, hes made a few nice passes, but even before that pick he just threw he has made some questionable throws in my eyes. He gets away with them because of the competition, but ive seen a few balls a better team might have picked.

[Blade6119]

look at that TD...literally right into the Lowery's hands, and it was only by mistake that he dropped the pick and the WR made the catch. Now, i know lowery is still a great corner, but thats a pick 9 times out of ten.

[Atocep]

I've watched the better part of 3 Hawaii games now and hasn't impressed me much. His biggest strength that I've seen is avoiding the pass rush. He isn't mobile, but moves very well in the pocket. However, his accuracy is very inconsistent and his arm strength is questionable.

I still think he's a good college QB, but not the 1st or 2nd round NFL prospect he's been mentioned as.

[Lathum]

shaping up to be a good ending

[TazFTW]

Just win, baby. Just win.

[timmynausea]

I can't believe I missed all this Wannstache talk. I think Pitt will give him another year. They are in the process of replacing their Athletic Director, so everything will be up in the air.

The talk I've heard is that they will clean house as far as assistants and bring in people to basically take over the program, making Wannstedt more of a figurehead like Bobby Bowden or Joe Paterno. They like him as the face of the program and recruiter, but realize now that he is an incredibly incompetent coach in all other ways. In fact, as bad as his game day coaching and playcalling have been, I think his gravest failure is developing talent. Pitt has had so many top rated recruits waste away while down the road West Virginia is turning 2 and 3 star guys into All-Americans.

[k0ruptr]

WOW what a hell of a game tonite! Colt was so damn calm in those last few minutes, I was sitting there on the verge of tears, and their was Colt smiling and just knowing they were gonna pull it off. He sure can control his emotions out their on the field. thats a QB. damn. 4 picks or not, I wouldn't want any other QB in the country.

[JeeberD]

Congrats on the win. Looks like y'all still struggle on the mainland though, eh?

[JeeberD]

Go UCF! Beat USF!

[JonInMiddleGA]

A real gem underway in Miami. GT & Miami scoreless midway through the 1st quarter. Bennett & Wright have so far combined to go 3/11 for 27 yds and a pick (Bennett).

[JeeberD]

UCF scores a TD to pull within 3 of USF. 10-7 Bulls.

[miami_fan]

Cute play here, cute play there= zero or negative yards

Run plays right up the gut? first downs and TDs

I suspect we are going to see much more cute plays today from Miami.

[JeeberD]

Ugh, safety on UCF when the Knights RB slips and falls in the endzone after a handoff from the one...

[miami_fan]

That was a bullshit holding call.

[DanGarion]

They need to stop talking about Mike Cox on ESPN right now...

[st.cronin]

I think Iowa QB Jake Christensen is about to start crying.

[miami_fan]

Miami scores after a blown call by the refs 14-14.

[mauchow]

Illinois finally within the 10 yard line.

edit: actually the 11

[mauchow]

Then they throw a pick.. ouch. The Big 10 just took another hit.

[k0ruptr]

Congrats on the win. Looks like y'all still struggle on the mainland though, eh?

yea still strugglin, but gettin better, haven't lost in 7 straight road games now.

[JeeberD]

Probably just because you haven't had to come to the Sun Bowl in the past three years... ;)

[JeeberD]

Another TD for USF, 50-10. With most of the fourth quarter left to go, how long do they keep laying the wood?

[k0ruptr]

I'm really proud of how Hawaii played last nite, and thought it showed toughness and resiliency. but after reading a bunch of articles, and peoples thoughts , it seems no better then a loss!

[Celeval]

Ball Control Offense ftw.

GT beats Miami 17-14, third straight season - Tech takes control with a FG lead and 5:32 remaining and holds the ball the rest of the quarter, eventually running out the clock on fourth and ten at the Miami 12 yard line.

[k0ruptr]

So if Michigan wins the Big Ten and goes to the BCS , will people be all pissy because they lost to App St?

[wade moore]

I'm really proud of how Hawaii played last nite, and thought it showed toughness and resiliency. but after reading a bunch of articles, and peoples thoughts , it seems no better then a loss!

At this point I think Hawaii is playing for personal pride and maybe a chance in one of the other BCS games (not the title game). The national picture at this point I think is done for them and even a non NC BCS bowl may be tough to get into.

That being said - what a great feeling for the players, staff, fans, students, etc if they can go undefeated. Even if you don't get the chance at a title (which you know how I feel about) - it's still a huge accomplishment for any college football team.

[SirFozzie]

Good game on the alternate Big Ten Network (considering the teams, I should say close game), Northwestern driving in the last two minutes to try to tie the game up with Minnesota

[SirFozzie]

Northwestern 4th and Goal at the 4, :12 to play

[k0ruptr]

At this point I think Hawaii is playing for personal pride and maybe a chance in one of the other BCS games (not the title game). The national picture at this point I think is done for them and even a non NC BCS bowl may be tough to get into.

That being said - what a great feeling for the players, staff, fans, students, etc if they can go undefeated. Even if you don't get the chance at a title (which you know how I feel about) - it's still a huge accomplishment for any college football team.

I agree about the NC, but its funny cause I never heard any of that talk at any time. I knew at the beginning of the season we had no shot at the NC, but a pretty ok shot at a BCS bowl.

This team has shown twice now on the road that they BELIEVE in each and every player, and will never give up, even against horrible opponents ( thats the media talking) I have mad respect for what San Jose ST and La Tech did, and I don't think they're bad teams. It seems that this Hawaii team really sees the big picture, and just refuses to lose. I hope they just take it one game at a time, the next 5 games are the toughest we will probably play all season, and the chance at a WAC title and possibly an undefeated season for Hawaii could quite possibly be a once in a life time thing for us as a State and the University.

I wonder how far we are going to drop in the polls. I think probably around 20th. but I guess that still depends on what happens today somewhat.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm really proud of how Hawaii played last nite, and thought it showed toughness and resiliency. but after reading a bunch of articles, and peoples thoughts , it seems no better then a loss!

It wasn't much better than a loss. They can't afford to barely beat 3-4 teams like San Jose State.

Edit to clarify: That is if they want to get into a BCS Bowl.

[SirFozzie]

Purdue's time with the big boys is over, as they are getting completely demolished by Michigan

[JeeberD]

I wonder how far we are going to drop in the polls. I think probably around 20th. but I guess that still depends on what happens today somewhat.

Which is a bunch of crap when BCS teams move up every week even when they struggle against bad teams. Just another instance of The Man giving the shaft to the little guy...

[SirFozzie]

Northwestern scores, XP away from sending it to OT.

[JeeberD]

Good game about to start on CSTV...Rice at Houston. A pretty big rivalry between the two schools from the same city, and Rice is better than their record indicates and Houston has a very solid offense.

[k0ruptr]

It wasn't much better than a loss. They can't afford to barely beat 3-4 teams like San Jose State.

Edit to clarify: That is if they want to get into a BCS Bowl.

Yea I agree, 7-0 doesn't mean anything unless we blow out the teams we should blow out. Maybe thats what June meant when he said those comments post game.

Everyone knows we are gonna drop in the polls. it sucks lol.

[cartman]

Last year's Colt McCoy finally has shown up this season. He has made some phenomenal plays today.

[k0ruptr]

Boise St. struggled a couple times last year, but the quality of those opponents was better I guess.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC recovers a fumble at midfield and the Mark Sanchez era begins.

[dawgfan]

So, does Bill Callahan survive past this season?

[dawgfan]

Am I missing some sort of feud between South Florida and Central Florida? Is there a reason the Bulls passed for their last 2 TD's in the 4th Q of an eventual 64-12 rout?

[JeeberD]

Houston and Rice all tied up at 14 halfway through the first...

[timmynausea]

Am I missing some sort of feud between South Florida and Central Florida? Is there a reason the Bulls passed for their last 2 TD's in the 4th Q of an eventual 64-12 rout?

I'm not sure how deep it goes or what the root of the dislike is exactly, but I know that USF is one of the No votes as far as UCF ever joining the Big East.

[JeeberD]

Kentucky up early 7-0 on LSU

[Karlifornia]

It wasn't much better than a loss. They can't afford to barely beat 3-4 teams like San Jose State.

Edit to clarify: That is if they want to get into a BCS Bowl.

Boise State needed a last-second field goal to win at SJSU last year.

[k0ruptr]

Boise State needed a last-second field goal to win at SJSU last year.

I was gonna point this out, but whats the point anyway? all that would be said back was SJSU was 9-3 last year, its kinda moot.

[k0ruptr]

that and the fact that that was SJSU's only loss at home in their like previous 10 games before last nite.

[dawgfan]

Boise State needed a last-second field goal to win at SJSU last year.
San Jose State was pretty good last year. And Hawaii has now had 2 very close calls (Louisiana Tech, San Jose State) against teams that, so far this year, aren't very good at all.

[JeeberD]

lol...Houston WR Donnie Avery has three receptions for 208 yards and 2 TDs early in the second quarter.

[k0ruptr]

San Jose State was pretty good last year. And Hawaii has now had 2 very close calls (Louisiana Tech, San Jose State) against teams that, so far this year, aren't very good at all.

BAM, there it is. lol

[SirFozzie]

WTF happened to Nebraska????

[JeeberD]

lol...Houston WR Donnie Avery has three receptions for 208 yards and 2 TDs early in the second quarter.

And UH QB Blake Joseph is 6/6 for 244 yards and three TDs...

[gstelmack]

Am I missing some sort of feud between South Florida and Central Florida? Is there a reason the Bulls passed for their last 2 TD's in the 4th Q of an eventual 64-12 rout?

I did not get to watch much of the game, but checked the box score, and 2 different QBs threw those TDs. It looks like Grothe did not play at all in the 4th quarter? So maybe this is just giving the backups some experience. It looks like they had 2nd and 3rd stringers in there for most of the 4th quarter. So rather than do the sit on it thing, Leavitt pulled his starters and gave everyone else a shot to play. It doesn't look like he was pushing to run up the score, UCF just couldn't stop anyone at all.

Looking forward to the game at Rutgers next week. Fortunately we have Cincinatti and Louisville at home, but that will be a huge road test.

[dawgfan]

BAM, there it is. lol
Am I wrong? Hawaii doesn't have a lot of opportunities to impress the country given their schedule - right or wrong, like it or not, the WAC is not highly respected as a conference, and Hawaii has a hard time getting BCS schools to play games in the islands. When you are a team that is looked at somewhat skeptically, playing in what is perceived as a weak conference, you can't afford to have 2 extremely close calls to bad teams if you want to get into a BCS bowl game.

Fortunately for Hawaii, Boise State seems to have recovered from their loss to Washington and could well be 10-1 heading into their game with the Warriors. Fresno State also has a chance to be 6-3 or 7-2 (if they upset Boise) heading into their game with Hawaii, and if things go right for Washington they could be 6-6 and playing for a bowl when they play at Hawaii.

So there will be opportunities to get more poll respect, but you have to admit that the close calls they've had so far are understandable reasons for outsiders to view Hawaii with skepticism.

[dawgfan]

I did not get to watch much of the game, but checked the box score, and 2 different QBs threw those TDs. It looks like Grothe did not play at all in the 4th quarter? So maybe this is just giving the backups some experience. It looks like they had 2nd and 3rd stringers in there for most of the 4th quarter. So rather than do the sit on it thing, Leavitt pulled his starters and gave everyone else a shot to play. It doesn't look like he was pushing to run up the score, UCF just couldn't stop anyone at all.
Well, I'll admit that maybe things are different in the South and perhaps times have changed. I just remember that in the '80's (back when the Huskies were good) Don James would put in his backup QB's in blowouts but they would almost never pass the ball. Run the ball, run out the clock, don't pile on.

[st.cronin]

Geez, Wisconsin getting their teeth kicked in against PSU.

[Mike1409]

Am I missing some sort of feud between South Florida and Central Florida? Is there a reason the Bulls passed for their last 2 TD's in the 4th Q of an eventual 64-12 rout?

Yup it is part of the Tampa-Orlando feud. USF also doesn't want to play UCF because they don't think it helps them.

USF is also looking to keep it's ratings high, last week they scored a TD in the last minute against FAU.

[st.cronin]

Dirty Sanchez not looking good.

[k0ruptr]

Am I wrong? Hawaii doesn't have a lot of opportunities to impress the country given their schedule - right or wrong, like it or not, the WAC is not highly respected as a conference, and Hawaii has a hard time getting BCS schools to play games in the islands. When you are a team that is looked at somewhat skeptically, playing in what is perceived as a weak conference, you can't afford to have 2 extremely close calls to bad teams if you want to get into a BCS bowl game.

Fortunately for Hawaii, Boise State seems to have recovered from their loss to Washington and could well be 10-1 heading into their game with the Warriors. Fresno State also has a chance to be 6-3 or 7-2 (if they upset Boise) heading into their game with Hawaii, and if things go right for Washington they could be 6-6 and playing for a bowl when they play at Hawaii.

So there will be opportunities to get more poll respect, but you have to admit that the close calls they've had so far are understandable reasons for outsiders to view Hawaii with skepticism.

damn, I completely agree. good points.

and I think UW could be better then 6-6 , they are a solid team that could really mold into a good one the more the season goes on.

[SirFozzie]

BC Really needs to score on this drive.. they've dominated ND but went for it and failed4th and 9 at the 25 one drive, and had a FG blocked on another drive, so they're only up 6-0.. you gotta put ND away early.

[JeeberD]

31-28 Rice over Houston with six and a half left in the first half. Does ANYONE in CUSA have a defense?!?

[SirFozzie]

It's always a satisfying sound as a visiting team fan to hear the ND fans boo.. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

San Jose State was pretty good last year. And Hawaii has now had 2 very close calls (Louisiana Tech, San Jose State) against teams that, so far this year, aren't very good at all.

Exactly. Last year, San Jose State showed they were a better team than they have shown this year.

[SirFozzie]

at least Hawaii doesn't have to worry about Wisconsin moving past them.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dirty Sanchez not looking good.

The offensive line isn't giving him time or the running game room. I can't blame them too much with 7 of their top linemen out now :(

[JeeberD]

I'm headed out to Portland tomorrow to visit with a couple of my best buddies, and to attend the Washington State vs. Oregon game at Autzen Stadium. Yeah, I know...but it should be a fun experience anyway.

Then it's off to Rogue Brewery in Newport to drown our sorrows (or celebrate a freakish upset win).

Poor Coug... :(

40-0 Oregon at the half

[st.cronin]

at least Hawaii doesn't have to worry about Wisconsin moving past them.

I've been optimistic, but at this point I'm thinking a .500 conference record for Bucky is best case scenario.

[heybrad]

Mark Sanchez to Fred Davis for a 25 yd TD and USC takes the lead. This after a 45 yard punt return by Joe McKnight who is starting to look pretty darn good.

[mauchow]

Hawaii won't drop. They'll probably stay the same or perhaps even gain one spot.

[Logan]

Did anyone see Greg Robinson's comments about Rutgers before the game? They showed the quote on air but I haven't been able to find the full thing in print.

Not your finest moment G-Rob.

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofdTwtfyktM

[Passacaglia]

Geez, 83 yard punt by Arizona, downed at the 1. It just stopped there, too.

[st.cronin]

Wow, that might have been the greatest punt I've ever seen from the AZ kicker. EIGHTY THREE YARDS.

[gstelmack]

Well, I'll admit that maybe things are different in the South and perhaps times have changed. I just remember that in the '80's (back when the Huskies were good) Don James would put in his backup QB's in blowouts but they would almost never pass the ball. Run the ball, run out the clock, don't pile on.

Well, to be fair, they had also run for 178 yards on the day. The last TD was on a 4th-and-14 from the UCF 28 when USF was trying to run out the clock, but I guess they could have just pounded it and let UCF have the ball at that point. I have not seen the plays, so I do not know if they were throwing down the field (how far downfield was the 75-yard TD thrown?) vs how much the receivers were just running wild in the backfield.

Yes, I can see how it would be looked at as running up the score. I'd definitely be on board if Grothe was still in there. But when you're as surprising as USF is, I can see wanting to get some game experience for the backups to help cushion an injury to Grothe. That's my only point.

The BCS factors into this, too, when many of the voters only get to look at final scores, at least among the coaches. I really think the BCS has lent an air of credibility to running up the score, despite efforts to stop it. When everyone talks about "close wins", you do everything in your power to avoid one.

Besides, they get picked on for the late TD against FAU last week, and that was a running play.

[wade moore]

Everyone seems to be watching USC - this is a damned good LSU/Kentucky game. Kentucky has really impressed me.

[Passacaglia]

Everyone seems to be watching USC - this is a damned good LSU/Kentucky game. Kentucky has really impressed me.

They just cut to the USC game from Wisconsin/Penn State (a blowout).

[Blade6119]

Anyone see that block from the Mizzou OT on the double reverse for the TD just then? Ouch, those knees just buckled when he hit

[Jas_lov]

LSU is in trouble! Kentucky is knocking on the door for a touchdown and the lead!!!!!

[Jas_lov]

Stuffed! Tie game with 4:00 left to play.

[Swaggs]

What channel is the Mizzou-Oklahoma game on? I am not seeing it anywyere...

[Blade6119]

Fox sports here

[Blade6119]

And i think his right knee was down...still a great play by OU to keep going until the whistle, but this shouldnt stand as a TD. It seems to me he was down on on his knee before he rolled over the defender.

[molson]

Well, I'll admit that maybe things are different in the South and perhaps times have changed. I just remember that in the '80's (back when the Huskies were good) Don James would put in his backup QB's in blowouts but they would almost never pass the ball. Run the ball, run out the clock, don't pile on.

Backup QBs should get a chance to sling it around once in a while, so I have no problem with that.

A team losing by an extra touchdown or two (or three) has never hurt anyone.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow, that might have been the greatest punt I've ever seen from the AZ kicker. EIGHTY THREE YARDS.

Felt like I was holding my breath the last hour or so of this game, so I wasn't on here as I was pacing. That was an amazing punt. Sanchez made some very impressive plays this game, including the scramble late. He also made some stupid mistakes. Ditto for McKnight who looked very good on that punt return for 45 yards and then the 59 yard run but then he follows it up with a terrible fumble. USC needs to get some offensive linemen back healthy and it would be nice to get Cushing back. Hopefully, Rey Rey is ok for next week. Not an impressive win, but certainly better than last week.

[Blade6119]

and overturned, good call

[Eaglesfan27]

Everyone seems to be watching USC - this is a damned good LSU/Kentucky game. Kentucky has really impressed me.

I'm watching LSU/Kentucky now that the USC game is over and have been for a few minutes.. I was trying to flip back to this game during commercials. Looks like it has been a great game. Should be a fun ending.

[Swaggs]

Great... I get Carolina Hurricanes hockey, on Fox, instead of one of the best games of the season.

[wade moore]

I'm watching LSU/Kentucky now that the USC game is over and have been for a few minutes.. I was trying to flip back to this game during commercials. Looks like it has been a great game. Should be a fun ending.
Yeah - this has been one of those SEC games you think about with very physical play.. at least 4-5 guys have gone out of the game just because they got hit so damned hard (including that DB just now).

[Buccaneer]

How did LSU get to be #1 with that QB and his 3 YPA?

[Eaglesfan27]

Very interesting call here. I'd do exactly what the announcer just said. Run it down and throw the Hail Mary.

[Jas_lov]

Overtime in LSU/Kentucky unless LSU hits this hail mary. Very good game.

[Jas_lov]

Now LSU is trying the 57 yard field goal!

[st.cronin]

I think all these announcers hate parity. They have been openly cheering for LSU and USC.

[wade moore]

How did LSU get to be #1 with that QB and his 3 YPA?

The 3 YPA has way more to do with the Kentucky Defense than Matt Flynn. While he doesn't wing it like Russell did, this is abnormal for him.

[wade moore]

dola:

Not great, but - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146744

Looks like 6.75 ypa before this game.

[molson]

Poor Coug... :(

40-0 Oregon at the half

Eugene's a nice place to visit.

[wade moore]

That was one hell of a hit on the freshman RB trying to go over the top.

[Radii]

TD Kentucky!!! I have no idea if that was a TD or not, but I don't think you could overturn it.

[wade moore]

I didn't think he got in, but I can see how it was inconclusive for overturning.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I hate college OT.

[wade moore]

I hate college OT.

College OT is 10x better than the NFL.


That was a great playcall by LSU.

[molson]

I hate college OT.

Me too.

I'd love to see "first to 6 points" in both the NFL and college. I think it's the perfect compromise.

[wade moore]

I will agree with what he just sad about the stats, the stats shouldn't count.

[Young Drachma]

It'd be a fitting tribute to this year if LSU loses, as it gets us that much closer to a no-name team into the national title game.

[Eaglesfan27]

I will agree with what he just sad about the stats, the stats shouldn't count.

Yep. That is my biggest gripe with the system.

[st.cronin]

Whoever calls the offensive plays for LSU does a really nice job.

[Buccaneer]

It'd be a fitting tribute to this year if LSU loses, as it gets us that much closer to a no-name team into the national title game.

Which is what a playoffs will likely get.

[Young Drachma]

Which is what a playoffs will likely get.

And I'm perfectly okay with that. It's as if it's unavoidable no matter how the big schools try to rig the system.

[Young Drachma]

They sure didn't defend that very aggressively.

[Blade6119]

I think they would rather them have the FG then give up a big play and possibly deal with a TD.

[Young Drachma]

Well...that was a pretty ineffective set of 3 plays.

[wade moore]

Which is what a playoffs will likely get.I've never understood this logic of the playoff-haters.. I think there are some arguments for the Bowl System, but I dont' think this is one of them.

If you use I-AA as a model, two of the top teams are almost always the ones in the title game.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

College OT is 10x better than the NFL.

Why not just put the ball on the 10 yard line and make the defense line up with only 10 men? It's basically the same concept as is currently used...

I don't like the "First to 6 pts" philosophy either. It tends to not be "First to 6 pts," but "First to kick a 47 yard FG on 1st & 10, just in case something goes wrong."

College should be "Four quarters and go home, win lose or tie."

Pro should be similar to now, but kick off after a score. It may be difficult to imagine, but an overtime game would always end on a play, not a kick. It would increase the odds of coaches going for the end zone.

[SirFozzie]

Kentucky looks completely tentative. They're nibbling. 4-5 yard passes

[mauchow]

Run.

[wade moore]

Why not just put the ball on the 10 yard line and make the defense line up with only 10 men? It's basically the same concept as is currently used...

I don't like the "First to 6 pts" philosophy either. It tends to not be "First to 6 pts," but "First to kick a 47 yard FG on 1st & 10, just in case something goes wrong."

College should be "Four quarters and go home, win lose or tie."

Pro should be similar to now, but kick off after a score. It may be difficult to imagine, but an overtime game would always end on a play, not a kick. It would increase the odds of coaches going for the end zone.

I could buy changing to some other system that gives both teams a chance, but as-is the College system is better than the NFL imo.

[mauchow]

Might as well play a 5th quarter like basketball, who ever scores the most in OT wins. An 8 minute quarter would likely allow both teams to get at least one possession. It's not perfect, but 10 minutes seems like too long.

[st.cronin]

I believe Rich Brooks would enjoy murdering his quarterback right now.

[st.cronin]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Young Drachma]

Well at least he redeemed himself..

[wade moore]

Wow.

[Jas_lov]

Touchdown! I couldn't believe the fullback ran out of bounds at the 1 on 1st down, but it worked out I guess.

[Eaglesfan27]

Might as well play a 5th quarter like basketball, who ever scores the most in OT wins. An 8 minute quarter would likely allow both teams to get at least one possession. It's not perfect, but 10 minutes seems like too long.

That would be my favored solution for college and the pros. I'd go with 7:30 for the quarter length.

[mauchow]

TD

[wade moore]

Gets interesting now with the failed conversion.

[Young Drachma]

Ok, defense. Time to man up.

[mauchow]

Need a TO

[mauchow]

TO on downs would work.

[SirFozzie]

Wow.. fourth and 2. Can LSU dodge ANOTHER bullet?

The Matrix failed LSU that time. Wow.

And just in time for the baseball :)

[Jas_lov]

No good! It's over!

[Young Drachma]

Ballgame.

[st.cronin]

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY KENTUCKY

[Eaglesfan27]

So, who's number #1 now?

[mauchow]

Ball gammme!!!

[wade moore]

As much as it was cool to see this up and coming Kentucky team I have to say again..

Get Parity out of my NCAA Division-I football.

[Young Drachma]

What a crazy, crazy, crazy year.

[Jas_lov]

So, who's number #1 now?

Cal or OSU

[mauchow]

I hope its not freakin' Cal or something... Despite not really deserving it, I suppose tOSU might be the best shot at it.

[wade moore]

So, who's number #1 now?
The voters aren't real creative, so I imagine Cal.

Edit: although it could be tOSU since they're neck and neck in the polls.

[Jas_lov]

I hope its not freakin' Cal or something... Despite not really deserving it, I suppose tOSU might be the best shot at it.

Cal is down 7-0 early against Oregon State!

[Blade6119]

Why not Cal? They have easily the best resume in the nation now, and its not even close.

[Buccaneer]

Wow. I went upstairs and told my wife, 'Go Kentucky'. She thought she'd never hear me utter those words. I told her I just want to see what the polls will look like tomorrow.

[wade moore]

Why not Cal? They have easily the best resume in the nation now, and its not even close.
If Cal falls then I'm thinking it becomes tOSU in a landslide.

[cmp]

What a great year in college football. Every week it's something new.

[Jas_lov]

Will we see BC or South Florida in the title game? OSU and Cal will obviously have to lose. Cal still has to play USC and Arizona State. The Big 10 sucks, but OSU has to get past Illinois, Wisconsin, and at Michigan. South Florida has Cincinatti as their biggest opponent left. BC has VT and Florida State.

[st.cronin]

If Cal loses South Florida should be #1. They have better wins than Buckeye.

[bob]

I have a question about instant replay in college / pro football that came up from watching a game today. Here's the scenario:

First down is at the 20 1/2 yard line. Initial spot of the ball after a play puts it at the 20, so it is a first down and the chain moves. Right before the next play is snapped, they decide to review the play, and say it should be marked at the 20 1/2 yard line, give or take some inches. The chains have already moved, so there is no way to do a reasonable measurement to decide if it is a first down or not. Also, you don't know exactly where the first down should be anymore based on the previous play.

To me it seems like a play shouldn't be reviewable if the chains have moved. And for a game of inches like football can be, there is an awful lot of guessing on marking the ball.

[RendeR]

Why not Cal? They have easily the best resume in the nation now, and its not even close.

Ok Captain Hyperbole.

Honestly, I see tOSU getting the #1 spot by the virtue of better performances overall. Even if Cal gets #1 this week, it won't last long, looking at their schedule I'm expecting them to lose 2, possibly 3 games before the season ends.

tOSU has 1 real chancy game other than the season ending Mi-shit-gan game. That being @ Penn State. Though even that isn't looking nearly as challenging as it had early in the season.

As close as the poll voting has been lately though you shouldn't be surprised at all that Cal ends up 2nd next week even if they win tonight.

[Noop]

Wild Season.

[Noop]

Andre' Woodson = Number 1 pick in next year's draft.

[wade moore]

If Cal loses South Florida should be #1. They have better wins than Buckeye.

fwiw I'm not saying that tOSU should be #1, but that they will... Like I said, the voters are not creative.


It seems pretty clear to me that USF has the easiest path to the title game right now.

[wade moore]

Andre' Woodson = Number 1 pick in next year's draft.
Even if Atlanta has the pick?

[Noop]

Even if Atlanta has the pick?

My beloved Dolphins will have the number one pick which means of course we take someone who is not worthy of the #1 pick but thats another story.

[Radii]

Honestly, I see tOSU getting the #1 spot by the virtue of better performances overall. Even if Cal gets #1 this week, it won't last long, looking at their schedule I'm expecting them to lose 2, possibly 3 games before the season ends.

tOSU has 1 real chancy game other than the season ending Mi-shit-gan game. That being @ Penn State. Though even that isn't looking nearly as challenging as it had early in the season.



Eh? OSU closes at Penn State, vs Wisconsin and Illinois, and then at Michigan... you're expecting Cal to lose to Arizona state and USC but basically calling OSU's schedule a walk in the park?

I think you win the hyperbole contest!


South Florida seems to have the easiest remaining schedule out of all BCS unbeatens, but I have a hard time imagining them not losing to rutgers, cinci or one of the other weaker teams in the big east. I'm betting on about 5 solid 1 loss teams this year all jumbled at the top.

[Blade6119]

I dont know, my rams are looking pretty safe for a top pick

[st.cronin]

So Woodson looks pretty good, but I don't think I'm sold on him being an elite qb at the next level. He definitely doesn't impress me as much as Russell did in college.

[Blade6119]

Alright Mizzou, shut down Bradford and tie this thing up

[JW]

Well, I guess the media now will jump off the LSU bandwagon, and that may be good. LSU has always flown better under the radar. I said a couple of weeks ago that I didn't understand how LSU jumped USC after I watched LSU play Tulane. LSU is a good team, as good as anyone in the country IMO, but LSU is not the dominant team people began making them out to be, just as USC was not the greatest football team ever assembled. The D has problems and holes. Spurrier first exposed those this year. And the offensive has weaknesses, too.

Kentucky played a great game and deserved to win, and LSU made a whole lot of mistakes in the game -- drops, penalties, poor passes, you name it. Also don't underestimate the effect the UF game had on them.

Now LSU has to play a very good Auburn team, but they get Auburn at home.

But when all is said and done, LSU still has a chance to win out and play in the BCS championship game. As good a chance as anyone.

Congrats again to Kentucky.

[Blade6119]

sigh, you have to pick that

[Blade6119]

why the hell is Maclin Throwing? just use Daniel...

[Blade6119]

Were just sitting back, and Bradford is picking us apart on short routes.

[molson]

The 1-loss teams have no reason to give up hope for a National Championship, not this year.

[Blade6119]

We cant wrap up for the life of us...every play goes 5-10 yards longer then it should...we dont deserve to even be within 2 touchdowns right now

[RendeR]

Eh? OSU closes at Penn State, vs Wisconsin and Illinois, and then at Michigan... you're expecting Cal to lose to Arizona state and USC but basically calling OSU's schedule a walk in the park?

I think you win the hyperbole contest!


<table class="cnnContent cnnSmall" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="cnnData1"><td class="cnnLeft">Sat. Oct. 20</td> <td class="cnnLeft">3:30 PM p.m. ET</td> <td class="cnnLeft cnnBold">at UCLA (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/ucla/index.html)</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">-</td> </tr> <tr class="cnnData2"> <td class="cnnLeft">Sat. Oct. 27</td> <td class="cnnLeft">10:00 PM p.m. ET</td> <td class="cnnLeft cnnBold">at Arizona State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/arizst/index.html)</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">-</td> </tr> <tr class="cnnData1"> <td class="cnnLeft">Sat. Nov. 3</td> <td class="cnnLeft">10:00 PM p.m. ET</td> <td class="cnnLeft cnnBold">Washington State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/washst/index.html)</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">-</td> </tr> <tr class="cnnData2"> <td class="cnnLeft">Sat. Nov. 10</td> <td class="cnnLeft">8:00 PM p.m. ET</td> <td class="cnnLeft cnnBold">USC (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/usc/index.html)</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">-</td> </tr> <tr class="cnnData1"> <td class="cnnLeft">Sat. Nov. 17</td> <td class="cnnLeft">2:00 PM p.m. ET</td> <td class="cnnLeft cnnBold">at Washington (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/wash/index.html)</td> <td>-</td> <td>-</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">-</td> </tr> <tr class="cnnData2"> <td class="cnnLeft">Sat. Dec. 1</td> <td class="cnnLeft">7:00 PM p.m. ET</td> <td class="cnnLeft cnnBold">at Stanford (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/stanfo/index.html)</td></tr></tbody></table>

Ok, you mention AZ St, and USC, no brainer that those are tough games and I agree.

But Washington state is no slouch and could beat anyone on any given weekend. Washington is their defense steps up can play with anyone and Stanford just knocked off USC.

yes, Ohio State has a much easier path to follow than Cal. If you look at the matchups team by team for tOSU, you'll notice their strengths are setup against the weaknesses of most o their opponents.. I admit I don't know how wel Cal matches up with their foes and they could be in the same situation, so that could alance them.

Overall the pollers like Ohio State more in general. I assume this is because of recent long term success?

Or just Big-Ten Bias. =)

[MizzouRah]

why the hell is Maclin Throwing? just use Daniel...

Yep... playcalling sucks so far.

[RendeR]

The 1-loss teams have no reason to give up hope for a National Championship, not this year.

QFT

This has been the most upset-filled season I've ever seen. I fear for tOSU. They've gotta look at what's happened to everyone else and stay focused.

There is a piture of Smith getting hammered in the title game last season, with the score listed on it, tey have to look at that every day in the locker room. If that's not sobering enough to keep you from getting overconfident, nothing is.

[Huckleberry]

You guys are doing alright. You're starting to experience the OU holding phenomenon. Bob Stoops has coached them how to hold without getting called perfectly since he got there. Like on the short TD run. The RG right at the point of attack wrapped up the outside of your DL's shoulder pads. No call.

It's amazing and irritating to watch all at the same time.

[Huckleberry]

LOL. And right as I post that their crowd whines about a non-call on a Mizzou hold. Hilarious.

[Blade6119]

Down 6, but i still dont expect us to win this...our defense just cant tackle.

[Blade6119]

FUMBLE! Mizzou ball in OU territory, and we now have a ball game!

[Huckleberry]

Bad time for a rare poor Daniel pass on first down.

[Blade6119]

gah, wasted time out...going to need those with the way this game is looking

[Jas_lov]

Could Cal be the next highly ranked unbeaten to fall? 20-14 Oregon State in the 3rd quarter.

[Blade6119]

Every year, i love Mizzou...every year, i hate Pinkel

[Blade6119]

TD Mizzou, and with the XP they will take the lead 24-23(if they dont miss)

[MizzouRah]

OH YEAH MIZZOU!!!

[k0ruptr]

I think this is the best College Football season ever.

[st.cronin]

Actually if Missouri wins today I think they have as good an argument to be #1 as anybody.

[sterlingice]

Not to interrupt the Mizzou-OU talk (tho I am pulling for the Tigers as it would make it that much sweeter when we beat them ;) )

The KU-Baylor game took over 6 hours today as the start was delayed nearly 2 hours due to thunderstorms and then in the first quarter, we were herded out of the stadium after lightning struck really close and kept out for about half an hour. KU eventually would win 58-10 on the strength of 4 picks and a kickoff return for a TD.

SI

[Blade6119]

Pig Brown has had 2 picks in his hands and dropped em both...come on guys, you have to make those plays

[Huckleberry]

Pig Brown has hooves, not hands.

[Huckleberry]

Another blatant hold by OU not called. This one by their left guard on 1st and 15 leads to a 12 yards gain.

[Huckleberry]

And then their inside TE wraps up the DE on the touchdown run. This would be maddening if it weren't so funny.

[timmynausea]

Oregon State just had a sweet goal line stand. After a pass interference gave Cal a 1st and Goal at the 2, they ran it 4 straight times and couldn't get in. It's still 20-14 Beavs.

[Blade6119]

Yup..at least we stopped the 2 point conversion(dont know why they didnt run, we cant wrap up). 5 Point lead for OU with a lot of time left.

If your mizzou, and score, do you go for 2 for the 3 point lead or just take the xp?

[Huckleberry]

3 point lead. By the time Mizzou scores I don't think there will be enough time to worry about both teams scoring. Go for the field goal lead.

Although it will be close with 12 minutes still to go.

[Blade6119]

and just like that, it goes down the drain

[Huckleberry]

Ballgame.

[Jas_lov]

Oregon State just had a sweet goal line stand. After a pass interference gave Cal a 1st and Goal at the 2, they ran it 4 straight times and couldn't get in. It's still 20-14 Beavs.

That was an awesome goal line stand. Cal has good field position now going into the 4th quarter because of that idiot who dropped the wide open 3rd down pass. When was the last time #1 and #2 both fell on the same day?

[Huckleberry]

The coaches' chart is broken. Stoops just did the same stupid thing Mack Brown did against Central Florida. He goes for two with the lead at 11.

Now Mizzou can tie with just a field goal and TD if they convert a two point conversion. Kicking the extra point there forces Mizzou to score two touchdowns.

[Blade6119]

Those dropped picks are haunting...OU doesnt miss turnovers, we do, and thats the difference in the game.

[Blade6119]

Just awful play calling...really awful

[sterlingice]

It was there- for one fleeting moment...

SI

[Jas_lov]

Cal responded with a TD to put them up 21-20 and now Oregon State is reviewing what looks to be a TD to put them up by 6! 8:00 to go!

[Jas_lov]

Play stands! Oregon State going for it on 4th and 1!

[Jas_lov]

Touchdown OSU! 26-21 and now going for 2.

[st.cronin]

Yikes, Cal is melting down.

[Jas_lov]

2 point good! Fumble Cal! OSU has the ball on the 20 trying to go up 2 touchdowns!

[timmynausea]

Oregon State goes up 28-21 with the 2 point conversion. Cal fumbles the ensuing kickoff and Cal commits a late hit out of bounds on the first play. OSU has it inside the 20 now.

[mauchow]

Nice, I didn't even realize I had this game on TV.

I just realized that there are a million channels these days with college football games on and I found it on the VS channel. Sweet.

[mauchow]

Oh and the Beavers are up 31-21 now. Sweet.

[miami_fan]

Nice, I didn't even realize I had this game on TV.

I just realized that there are a million channels these days with college football games on and I found it on the VS channel. Sweet.

Thanks. I didn't know it was on either.

[Young Drachma]

And meanwhile, ABC is showing NASCAR. Ugh.

[st.cronin]

It seems quite likely to me that Oregon will be ranked higher than California on Monday... which would be a great argument for not using the polls in the BCS formula.

[MizzouRah]

That Mackin fumble killed us. :(

Another season where we just can't get that BIG win.

[Logan]

Nice, I didn't even realize I had this game on TV.

I just realized that there are a million channels these days with college football games on and I found it on the VS channel. Sweet.

Awesome, thanks.

[mauchow]

Heh np

OSU ball again.