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miami_fan
11-10-2007, 06:20 PM
Illegal hits could cost teams more than 15 yards

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3103608

NEW YORK -- The NFL has told its officiating crews to start ejecting players for flagrant helmet-to-helmet hits.

The new policy was outlined Saturday in a memo from supervisor of officials Mike Pereira, which was obtained by The Associated Press. It followed two fines last weekend for what the officiating department had determined were hits against players in defenseless positions.

One fine was against Washington Redskins safety LaRon Landry, who will forfeit a game check of $16,764 for a helmet-to-helmet hit on New York Jets quarterback Kellen Clemens. The other was against Philadelphia defensive tackle LaJuan Ramsey, who was fined his game check of $21,176 for spearing Dallas' Julius Jones.

Two weeks ago, San Diego cornerback Drayton Florence was fined $15,000 for a helmet-to-helmet hit that gave Houston quarterback Matt Schaub a concussion.

"Officials will be reminded this week to pay strict attention to these rules and disqualify the fouling player if the action is judged to be flagrant," Pereira wrote in the memo sent to the 32 NFL teams. "Actions that involve flagrant helmet to helmet contact are the likely acts that will include disqualification. Our commissioner and this office remain very focused on the safety of our players."

In the memo fining Landry and Ramsey, NFL director of football operations Gene Washington said emphasis would be on hits against players in defenseless positions.

Landry previously was fined $7,500 for two unnecessary roughness violations on Oct. 21 against Arizona. Ramsey was fined $5,000 on Oct. 14 for roughing the passer against the Jets.

After Florence was fined, the Texans complained that the punishment wasn't severe enough.

"We are disappointed in the sense that we have lost our starting quarterback for at least one game after the player took the crown of his helmet and delivered an illegal blow to Matt's jaw and the fine levied is only a small fraction of the player's weekly pay," general manager Rick Smith said.

"Is that equitable? The punishment doesn't appear to fit the crime when all factors are considered."

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

Kodos
11-10-2007, 06:23 PM
Good news.

Maple Leafs
11-10-2007, 07:07 PM
Now I wonder how Patriot fans are going to decide this is all about them...

sabotai
11-10-2007, 07:13 PM
I saw Landry's hit on Clemens. I was surprised he wasn't ejected. Don't think I've seen a more flagrant illegal hit in a long time.

Cringer
11-10-2007, 07:38 PM
It seems helmet to helmet has been happening a little more again this year, at least in the games I have seen. Good decision. After a couple years though when it starts to go up again they are going to have to start threatening castration.

PilotMan
11-10-2007, 07:44 PM
well, I have seen a couple this year where the defender was penalized and there was nothing he could do. The penalty was called, and although it was helmet to helmet, it was totally incidental.

molson
11-10-2007, 10:09 PM
Now I wonder how Patriot fans are going to decide this is all about them...

Adorable, more baiting.

Great rule if it's used sparingly. It's one of those "I know it when I see it" kind of things. But sooner or later, someone's going to be kicked out and everyone's going to be pissed.

bhlloy
11-10-2007, 10:29 PM
There's a very fine line between shoulderpad and helmet, especially from 20 yards away at full speed. I'm with Molson, very soon somebody is going to get thrown out wrongly and everyone will be up in arms about it.

SirFozzie
11-10-2007, 10:41 PM
Now I wonder how Patriot fans are going to decide this is all about them...

I think it's aimed more at the Bob Sanders of the world..

bhlloy
11-10-2007, 10:55 PM
To follow up on my earlier post, if they are going to use replay to make sure it's intentional helmet to helmet contact, it's an absolutely great rule. But I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere...

Kodos
11-11-2007, 09:09 AM
I think it's aimed more at the Bob Sanders of the world..

Yes. Cuz Rodney Harrison isn't routinely voted the dirtiest player in the league. And hasn't been fined heavily for it...

Sweed
11-11-2007, 09:54 AM
Adorable, more baiting.

Great rule if it's used sparingly. It's one of those "I know it when I see it" kind of things. But sooner or later, someone's going to be kicked out and everyone's going to be pissed.

There's a very fine line between shoulderpad and helmet, especially from 20 yards away at full speed. I'm with Molson, very soon somebody is going to get thrown out wrongly and everyone will be up in arms about it.

Agreed. I would hope replay is REQUIRED before a player can be thrown out. No matter what it will be at the ref's discretion and some will argue "how does he know the guys intent?" but taking a second look won't take as long as a current challenge replay and will confirm the "I know it when I see it" for most of the coaches\players\fans.

dime
11-11-2007, 10:22 AM
god, it'd be nice if pats fans took a week off. just one.

what the link didn't mention (found on another article) is that the NFL has also decided to completely remove any and all mentions to the career of chuck cecil.

Maple Leafs
11-11-2007, 10:27 AM
I think it's aimed more at the Bob Sanders of the world..
Isn't he like four feet tall? It doesn't say anything about helmet-to-waist hits.

SirFozzie
11-11-2007, 10:33 AM
god, it'd be nice if pats fans took a week off. just one.

what the link didn't mention (found on another article) is that the NFL has also decided to completely remove any and all mentions to the career of chuck cecil.

*chuckles* your hate is delicious.

Maple Leafs says "I know the Pats fans will find a way to make it all about them."

I bring up the fact, it could be aimed at someone who says he "goes for the knockout blow on every hit", and just last week hurt himself trying to spear a defenseless New England player on the ground.

I'm the only Pats fan on this thread...

Then you come up with this idiocy.

We're like the boogeymen to you guys, isn't that the case?

14ers
11-11-2007, 02:23 PM
You see it all the time: A player running with the football who lowers his head and uses it like a weapon to blast through a defender.



Will we ever see an offensive player flagged for leading with his helmet?

wade moore
11-11-2007, 02:25 PM
We're like the boogeymen to you guys, isn't that the case?Please don't let dime represent this board, colts fans, football fans, human beings, pat haters, etc, etc.

molson
11-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Please don't let dime represent this board, colts fans, football fans, human beings, pat haters, etc, etc.

I've finally realized that there's really only 4-5 people on the board who get off with that kind of baiting

wade moore
11-11-2007, 02:30 PM
I've finally realized that there's really only 4-5 people on the board who get off with that kind of baitingLines like this amuse me.

This level of baiting happens so many times in a given day on FOFC. No one is ever boxed for this level of baiting and baiting period is very rarely a cause of boxing.

PilotMan
11-11-2007, 04:34 PM
back on topic:

There was a play today where Favre looked like he had gotten hit hard in the head, he held his own head and looked like he was hurt. Two flags came out and the penalty was given, but the replay showed that he wasn't even hit with a helmet, just part of an arm.

This is a big penalty, given during big hits, that sometimes is purely accidental, and yet it can be a huge game changing play.

The refs really need to get a lot better at this or there are going to be many more problems.

Tyrith
11-11-2007, 09:44 PM
Well, it seems like this is something they do intend to be used sparingly, but to be used. You can usually tell if someone is really trying to take a run at someone. And if there is a really nasty helmet-to-helmet hit that looks flagrant and wasn't...you sometimes have to be careful the positions you put yourself in. Leading with the head will get you into trouble sometimes.

molson
11-11-2007, 09:48 PM
I think the NFL is scared to death of someone actually being killed on the field, which we're getting closer and closer to with the speed and size of the players. Just another thing to put in the player's heads (and to protect them from liability when that day comes)

Desnudo
11-12-2007, 12:12 PM
god, it'd be nice if pats fans took a week off. just one.

what the link didn't mention (found on another article) is that the NFL has also decided to completely remove any and all mentions to the career of chuck cecil.

Thinking of you

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