NFL Week 10

[Radii]

No thread yet?

Vinny Testaverde starts in Carolina. Carolina still sucks, trails 7-0. They did knock Harrington out for a play.

[larrymcg421]

Jesse Chatman has 60 yards rushing in the 1st quarter, yet the Dolphins only lead 3-0. They'll find a way to screw this up.

[Greyroofoo]

I wish I could see the Browns beat up on the Steelers.

[Rizon]

Are the Browns for real?

[Rizon]

Jesse Chatman has 60 yards rushing in the 1st quarter, yet the Dolphins only lead 3-0. They'll find a way to screw this up.

You know, Chatman isn't too shabby. Lemon is ok too. This may be one of our few chances to win this year. I'm only waiting for a Cameron Blunder to ruin this one.

[Greyroofoo]

Are the Browns for real?

I keep finding people who ask that same question about the Dolphins

[Radii]

Panthers go for a 4th and one at the Atlanta 20, Testaverde throws a lob to Steve Smith who makes a good catch, but the DB knocks it out of his hands around the 2 yard line and out of the end zone... touchback, Atlanta ball. Bleh. Watching Carolina is just depressing as hell.

[larrymcg421]

By the way, I've never really liked the touchback rule. I don't like how a simple bounce of the ball can make such a dramatic difference (either at the 1 inch line or into the end zone for a touchback). I think offensive fumbles that go out of bounds in the end zone should be placed at the 1 with the offense retaining possession.

[Raiders Army]

I think the Browns are for real.

[larrymcg421]

You know, Chatman isn't too shabby. Lemon is ok too. This may be one of our few chances to win this year. I'm only waiting for a Cameron Blunder to ruin this one.

I wouldn't sat 4.4 YPA is "ok". I still want to see Beck.

[bhlloy]

Brett Favre plays the game like I play Madden. Can't quite remember where the "throw it away" button is and really hate taking sacks. Then complain about too many interceptions in the game :)

[Radii]

Ken Lucas with a fumble recovery return for a touchdown, 7-7 tie game with Atlanta now.

[Jas_lov]

The Packers are rushing very effectively on the Vikings tough run defense. Favre has been off on a few throws, but the Vikings are so terrible on offense it doesn't matter. The Vikings defense will continue to wear down because Bollinger can't complete a pass! They should just hand it to Peterson every down. Great game by Ryan Grant so far!

[Jas_lov]

20-0 Packers. Might as well sit Favre and the rest of the starters down now. Giants the 2nd best team in the NFC my ass!

[Buccaneer]

Great. Here I was telling a few people that I think New Orleans will win the NFC.

[Raiders Army]

the Browns are for real.

[cuervo72]

Brilliant TO management in the Redskins/Eagles game. Skins up 12-7 (I'm already counting the Eagles out, they look like crap), Skins on the PHI06, 4th and 1. They opt for the FG, but don't get the FG team in there quite in time, and take a TO. Then they proceed to kick a 23-yard FG.

If you've made your mind up that you're going for a FG, why in the blue blazes do you waste a TO here rather than take a 5-yard delay penalty? Seriously, all it would do is make it a 28 yarder.

[Raiders Army]

c'mon beat the Eagles.

[Raiders Army]

Roethlisberger needs to throw another INT.

[cartman]

Justin Gage just made a highlight TD catch for the Titans. He caught the post pass, but was blasted by the safety. The ball came out on the way down, but while he was on his back he tipped it back up and made the catch.

[Rizon]

I wouldn't sat 4.4 YPA is "ok". I still want to see Beck.

I dunno, when you have Ted Gimp Jr and Marty Booger as your WRs, I think 4.4 YPA is excellent. We might as well pick up Yatil Green and Todd Pinkston to improve our WR depth.

[Icy]

Crap, i hate to have visitors at home on Sundays, of course nobody in Spain underestands that i enjoy watching that "other" football on Sundays nights. I'm finally going to sit to watch the end of the Dolphins game.

[Eaglesfan27]

Reggie Brown with a very nice catch for a 45 yard TD! Nice to see the Eagles finally do something exciting today.

[Bearcat729]

After the way Cleveland played the first game of the season I would have never thought that they would be where they are now. Hopefully they can hold out for 1 more quarter.

So does anyone think Cleveland could get a good draft pick for Anderson in the offseason?

[Icy]

Umm so i start to watch the game in the 4thQ and the Bills just tied it... it seems i can't see the Fins winning a game this year.

[Icy]

Come on, second time in the season that a punt returned for TD by Ginn is nullified by a holding penalty.

[Jas_lov]

LOL! 2 idiot Vikings defenders collided and Favre's sure INT ended up in Ruvell Martin's hands for a touchdown! 34-0 Packers! Favre is so good.

[wade moore]

Reggie Brown with a very nice catch for a 45 yard TD! Nice to see the Eagles finally do something exciting today.Skins are killing me this year. I'm hoping they come out with this one, but really how many games that they really controlled the tempo do they have to barely pull it out?

[Buccaneer]

Favre is so lucky despite his brainless recklessness.

Fixed.

:p

[DeToxRox]

Joshua Cribbs busted out a NO SOUP FOR YOU return ont he Steelers just now

[Bearcat729]

Joshua Cribbs busted out a NO SOUP FOR YOU return ont he Steelers just now

And they had stopped kicking to him after the first return for a near TD.

[wade moore]

Thank you Donovan McNabb!

[Jas_lov]

I wish they were showing the Cleveland game here instead of Denver clobbering Kansas City. Looks like a great game and a Cleveland win obviously would be huge. Steelers driving though! 28-24.

[wade moore]

Anyone watching PHI-WAS..

Can you tell what they are chanting about Sellers?

[Radii]

Testaverde puts together a decent drive with 3 first down passes setting up the game tying field goal. 13-13 with 3:30 to gol

[Logan]

Hines Ward is a fantastic blocker for a WR.

[Logan]

And Big Ben is such a man.

[Eaglesfan27]

Very good goal line stand by the Eagles. Now it is up to McNabb to make it mean something.

[Eaglesfan27]

Anyone watching PHI-WAS..

Can you tell what they are chanting about Sellers?

I'm not sure, I was trying to figure that out, too.

[wade moore]

I'm not sure, I was trying to figure that out, too.
I mean.. the fans love Sellers so I'm sure it was something positive, I just don't know what it was.

[sabotai]

This is one of the few games where I want the Eagles to win.

[wade moore]

Very good goal line stand by the Eagles. Now it is up to McNabb to make it mean something.

Pretty pathetic by the Redskins... 6 plays, tons of time off of the clock, if you score a TD you pretty much put the nail in the coffin.

*sigh*... the lack of creativity (running on 1st and 2nd down on both sets of downs) just kills me sometimes.

But the false start was huge - that was a great playcall that just got totally botched.

[Logan]

In the PIT-CLE game, the ref announced that Cleveland was challenging as he walked across the field to the monitor. I'm 100% sure that's the first time I've ever seen a ref speak while not standing in one spot.

And a wonderful job by Crennel, first calling a timeout, then requesting a challenge (which was lost). Two timeouts killed.

[sabotai]

Green bay demolished the Vikings 34-0. I think they gave Peterson some Aquadots before the game...

[Jas_lov]

It was a total blowout by the Packers. Peterson was held under 50 yards rushing and Ryan Grant went off for 119 on the Vikings. Favre sat out the 4th quarter. Touchdown Eagles!!!!!!!

[JeeberD]

Fucking Westbrook...

[Eaglesfan27]

McNabb with a great play to evade pressure and throw a short pass to Westbrook and he takes it 58 yards for a TD!!! Eagles are ahead :)

[sabotai]

2 pt attempt comes back to haunt them. If they just went for 1 earlier, they could get 1 here and be up by 3. Now they have to go for 2 (and just failed).

[wade moore]

Fucking Westbrook...indeed.

[wade moore]

Now Thrash is hurt?

fantastic.

[Fonzie]

Nothing brings a smile to my face quite like crushing the Vikings.

I'm also thrilled because the Packers finally had a "complete" win. Not much was really missing from this one.

[Jas_lov]

Redskins are finished.

[wade moore]

*sigh*

Skins completely blow a game that they had no business losing.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yes! This was a must win for the Eagles and they get it done today.

[wade moore]

Yes! This was a must win for the Eagles and they get it done today.

More like the Skins handed the Eagles a game that the Redskins dominated.

So frustrating.

[Jas_lov]

The Eagles scored too quick!

[Radii]

I think this week might put John Fox on the hot seat in Carolina. Sure they have QB issues, but this team has way more problems than at QB. I don't think Fox should go just yet, but its time to start talking about it.

[JeeberD]

How it pains me to hope that the Foreskins can come back and win this sucker. It practically makes me sick to my stomach...

[JeeberD]

Dola-

Yay, Beefalo won!

[Jas_lov]

I still can't watch the end of the Browns game and I'm forced to watch Kansas City lose by 2 touchdowns! It looks like Anderson has the Browns in position to tie it according to the updates.

[OldGiants]

Joe Gibbs continues to show he's a washed-up, sanctimonious, sententious old fool. Running his 1982 vintage offense for seven consecutive inside-the-five plays with Portis getting stuffed on six runs and only holding on the Eagles keeping the drive going. Hasn't he ever heard about game film? I mean 25 year-old game film. Just study his quarter century old game plans and know what the old fart is up to. The Eagles knew exactly what was coming, just like the Giants did in week three.

May he remain in DC getting his butt whipped weekly.:)

[sabotai]

How it pains me to hope that the Foreskins can come back and win this sucker. It practically makes me sick to my stomach...

A Redskins win keeps them in the hunt. Shouldn't you be cheering for the Eagles so that both teams are closer to .500?

[wade moore]

Joe Gibbs continues to show he's a washed-up, sanctimonious, sententious old fool. Running his 1982 vintage offense for seven consecutive inside-the-five plays with Portis getting stuffed on six runs and only holding on the Eagles keeping the drive going. Hasn't he ever heard about game film? I mean 25 year-old game film. Just study his quarter century old game plans and know what the old fart is up to. The Eagles knew exactly what was coming, just like the Giants did in week three.

May he remain in DC getting his butt whipped weekly.:):eyeroll:

[JeeberD]

Yeah, really I should. But in my pool my brother and the other guy I consider a rival picked the Geagles while I went with the Foreskins. And really, I don't think either team is really a threat to the Cowboys, so personal glory comes first.

[Eaglesfan27]

The Eagles scored too quick!

Ok, now it is over :)

[Jas_lov]

I still can't watch the end of the Browns game and I'm forced to watch Kansas City lose by 2 touchdowns! It looks like Anderson has the Browns in position to tie it according to the updates.

Browns lose.

[sabotai]

Yeah, really it should. But in my pool my brother and the other guy I consider a rival picked the Geagles while I went with the Foreskins. And really, I don't think either team is really a threat to the Cowboys, so personal glory comes first.

THERE'S NO "I" IN TEAM!! OMGZ!!!

[JeeberD]

Oh my lord, WTF was that?!? I LOVE Tony Romo!

[cartman]

Was that a fast-pitch softball throw from Romo?

[Tasan]

Tony Romo is the man.


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[JeeberD]

Brandon Jacobs worries me, the dude is bigger than most of our linebackers...

[Schmidty]

My Lions looking good in season.

[JeeberD]

Geez...Jacobs just tripped there!

[larrymcg421]

In the PIT-CLE game, the ref announced that Cleveland was challenging as he walked across the field to the monitor. I'm 100% sure that's the first time I've ever seen a ref speak while not standing in one spot.

And a wonderful job by Crennel, first calling a timeout, then requesting a challenge (which was lost). Two timeouts killed.

I thought you got the timeout back if you asked for a challenge during the TO.

[Jas_lov]

Giants tie it 7-7.

[TazFTW]

Hamlin! :cool:

[JeeberD]

Woot, Ken Hamlin pick!

[JeeberD]

Kind of a weak penalty against the Giants, but I'll take the make-up call.

[kingfc22]

We have a Grossman sighting in Oakland...

[Coffee Warlord]

Play 1: Snap fumble.

[TazFTW]

Crayton! :D

[JeeberD]

God, they're so good at the two minute drill...

[JeeberD]

:mad:

Stupid penalties! :mad:

[JeeberD]

Romo TD!

[k0ruptr]

Romo TD!

good job TO! nah but seriously, TO has really seemed to calm down this year in regards to being a hateful gloating asshole.

maybe hes changed his ways? he doesnt seem to crave all the media attention anymore.

[JeeberD]

He's still a cock.

[k0ruptr]

He's still a cock.

damn, I really thought you would take the bait

:D

[Raiders Army]

Devin Hester is nothing.

[k0ruptr]

Shayne Graham 15- Ravens 0

[JeeberD]

Holy hell!

[Jas_lov]

Devin Hester is nothing.

I'm just hoping this game gets over with soon so they switch me to the end of Dallas-New York. Unfortunately, I don't think either team will score for the rest of the game and it'll be 3-3 going into OT and end in a 3-3 tie. These teams are terrible and nobody should be forced to watch this crap when there's better games going on elsewhere.

[cartman]

Nice pass by Romo for the TD

[SirFozzie]

I think that we're going to see if Tom Coughlin has really changed, with so many stupid penalties and blown coverages by the Gi-Aint's today (they had the KO return negated, another TD negated and then left Terrell Owens embarassingly open)... the old Coughlin would ruin the team for the rest of the year. Let's see what the "new Coughlin" does.

[Jas_lov]

And just when I open my big mouth there's a scoring explosion! It's now 10-6 Bears after a long pass from Grossman to Berrian.

[Neuqua]

Grossman with a beautiful bomb to Berrian, Bears take the lead.

[JeeberD]

Third and long is gonna KILL us this year.

[Jas_lov]

Nothing brings a smile to my face quite like crushing the Vikings.

I'm also thrilled because the Packers finally had a "complete" win. Not much was really missing from this one.

More reason to smile: Cardinals 31 Lions 14

And the Lions have to play the Giants next week. Meanwhile, the Packers play the injury riddled and offensively inept Panthers at home. Hopefully the Packers will possess a 3 game lead when they play on Thanksgiving and will wrap up the division that day with a win in Detroit. The #1 seed will be up for grabs the next week when the Packers travel to Dallas.

[Z²+]

I thought you got the timeout back if you asked for a challenge during the TO.

I used to think that as well, but Jim Nantz actually did a good job of explaining the rule. If you want to challenge a play, you have to challenge it BEFORE you call the timeout. If you call a timeout, you still have a chance to challenge the play, since there hasn't been another snap. However, if you then lose the challenge, you are charged with ANOTHER timeout for the lost challenge, meaning you would lose 2 timeouts on the same play.

As Nantz brought up in the broadcast, if you are contemplating making a challenge, you might as well throw the red flag first, since you'd only lose one timeout at the most. It makes no sense to call timeout to decide if you want to challenge.

[SirFozzie]

And that's the ball game. And gee freaking whiz, if ANY team gets 3 delay of game penalties in one quarter, they don't DESERVE to win.

[JeeberD]

Excellent! Nice job defense, and Eli with the DoG!

[miami_fan]

At what point does a QB just call his own play if the play takes too long from the sidelines?

[Mustang]

And the Lions have to play the Giants next week. Meanwhile, the Packers play the injury riddled and offensively inept Panthers at home. Hopefully the Packers will possess a 3 game lead when they play on Thanksgiving and will wrap up the division that day with a win in Detroit. The #1 seed will be up for grabs the next week when the Packers travel to Dallas.

Someone would have made that statement September 1st they would have been committed..

[Jas_lov]

Good start for the Colts.

[Buccaneer]

Go Bolts.

[molson]

He was way too eager to take it out, when you're breaking tackles in the end zone should probably just take a knee.

It'd be nice to see the Colts hammered tonight. What an enigma the Chargers are.

[k0ruptr]

Shayne Graham beat the ravens 21-7 today lol.

[Jas_lov]

Manning is having a great game.

[Crapshoot]

So, Darren Sproles is pretty good, eh?

[molson]

I'm guessing nobody thought to use the Chargers D/ST this week in fantasy?

[Greyroofoo]

GOD DAMN FRICKIN REFS

[Eaglesfan27]

Tough break for the Colts there.

[wade moore]

Hah

Norv is such a moron.


What a crazy play though.

[Buccaneer]

I'm guessing nobody thought to use the Chargers D/ST this week in fantasy?

or benching Manning?

[st.cronin]

Its not looking like Indy's night.

[wade moore]

or benching Manning?Yeah...

Ahwell.. bad break for Peyton.. but really.. how long has it been since he's had a bad game? It's pretty tough when you have only really 2 or 3 WR's/TE's that really know the offense... I mean.. having to huddle, that takes a huge advantage that Peyton has right there..

Anyway, I'm homering too much so I'll shutup...

[wade moore]

And now the backup LT is hurt?!

Freakin' A.

[Racer]

Tough break for the Colts there.

I doubt the Colts would have had that big of an interception return if the play hadn't been whistled dead.

[wade moore]

Utecht you big boob, BLOCK SOMEONE.

[wade moore]

I doubt the Colts would have had that big of an interception return if the play hadn't been whistled dead.
Agreed, but I think they would have been better than the 20.








WHAT THE FUCK?!

[wade moore]

These Charger fans are a bunch of morons.

[Antmeister]

These Charger fans are a bunch of morons.

Hey now! :p

[wade moore]

Hey now! :p

Heh. Well, the ones in the stadium are.

You're up 16-0, devastating Peyton Manning, and you get the whole stadium booing because you gave the ball to the best player in the NFL on 2nd and 9? It's ridiculous.

Anyway - I'm done with this game. I could miss Peyton making a huge name for himself, but sleep is better than watching this embarrassment.

[Raiders Army]

I'd like to see Indy win.

[bhlloy]

I think Indy will win this one, but if they don't, nobody is going to talk about how god-awful Phillip Rivers and the Charger offense is. Miami could turn 5 interceptions into more than 7 points.

I don't know if it's more the playcalling, Rivers looking like Joey Harrington or the fact that the line has regressed terribly, but other than a couple of breakout LT games this year has been pretty embarrassing.

[Buccaneer]

Dungy >> Turner

[SirFozzie]

Wow. San Diego is falling apart.

[Jas_lov]

Touchdown Colts! 5 INTS by Manning and the Chargers have managed to blow the lead!

[molson]

Anyway - I'm done with this game. I could miss Peyton making a huge name for himself, but sleep is better than watching this embarrassment.

Still awake?

[Jas_lov]

Touchdown Colts! 5 INTS by Manning and the Chargers have managed to blow the lead!

Spoke too soon! They still have the lead, but barely!

[Logan]

Great play by Brackett. I like to think that's his Rutgers education that made him carefully pick that ball up instead of just diving wildly for it and potentially knocking it out of the endzone.

[Jas_lov]

The Chargers defense is at the mercy of Peyton Manning and the Colts patchwork offense.

[SirFozzie]

Wow, that's an interesting play.. no challenges left.

[watravaler]

The Sex Cannon is back baby! I love me some "fuck it, i'm going deep" grossman QB action.

[bhlloy]

Is Norv Turner the worst head coach in the history of the NFL? And more importantly, why did the Chargers not realise this?

Two horrific challenges on plays that were clearly called correctly, and just generally horrible clock management. Screw Turner and screw AJ Smith for putting the franchise in this position because he was a freaking baby and tried to put one over on Marty. While we are at it, screw whoever is calling the offensive plays, screw Rivers and screw the offensive line.

[Groundhog]

The Sex Cannon is back baby! I love me some "fuck it, i'm going deep" grossman QB action.

Grossman is like a more reckless Brett Favre who can't handle snaps.

[larrymcg421]

What the hell is Madden talking about? No way do you go for the end zone here. That is one of the dumbest things I've heard an announcer say in a while.

[bhlloy]

Seriously. They can win by taking a knee three times and kicking the FG. Madden is so senile nowadays it's sad.

EDIT - not any more.

[molson]

What the hell is Madden talking about? No way do you go for the end zone here. That is one of the dumbest things I've heard an announcer say in a while.

To be fair, earlier tonight Madden gave us the following:

"It was a little too much, too late"

I don't care though, I like Madden. And I like Paul Maguire. Old football guys aren't supposed to be articulate or make sense.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, so you can't shift your line if it's 4th & inches?

[Jas_lov]

No Good! Clutch Vinateri misses from point blank range!!!!!!!!

[molson]

Vinateri sucks.

[SirFozzie]

You gotta be shittin me.

Now how many time outs do the Colts have?

[JonInMiddleGA]

And ladies & gentlemen, we have a brand new candidate for idiot kicker.

Maybe it's just my fatalistic nature but I kind of felt that coming.

[k0ruptr]

FANTASTIC!

[bhlloy]

WOW

[bhlloy]

Something tells me Vinatieri is going to have a chance to redeem himself here...

[cuervo72]

If you've made your mind up that you're going for a FG, why in the blue blazes do you waste a TO here rather than take a 5-yard delay penalty? Seriously, all it would do is make it a 28 yarder.

[lily tomlin]Nevermind[/lily tomlin]

[Racer]

I think it might be time for the Colts to get a new kicker. This isn't the first game this year where he has missed an easy field goal.

[King of New York]

I guess Madden is smarter than he sounds.

[Jas_lov]

One really long pass and a spike is all they need.

[Jas_lov]

Hail mary time!

[Jas_lov]

Wow. The Chargers have pulled off the greatest escape since Charles Bronson.

[molson]

What the hell - I guess everyone has nights like that, but Manning was awful. Six Picks!

[st.cronin]

6 interceptions, and he still had a better game than Rivers

[Antmeister]

6 interceptions, and he still had a better game than Rivers

LOL! That is so sad, but true. I am happy the Chargers got the win, but damn, Rivers is regressing fast.

[Buccaneer]

What a crazy, crazy ending. Norv Turner and Rivers did not deserve to win that game but I'm glad the Bolts won...somehow.

[MizzouRah]

Vinateri sucks.

This year for sure, jeez Vinny....

[bhlloy]

6 interceptions, and he still had a better game than Rivers


Yep. Chargers offense is just terrible. What really gets me is Rivers is bad, the receivers are bad, the protection isn't great, and they go away from Tomlinson who even when he's not doing great is averaging four to four and a half YPC. I guess they still think the passing game is good from last year, but it's clearly not. LT is less and less involved in the offense and the passing game is getting worse and worse.

[Abe Sargent]

I can't beleive this thread was at just four pages considering this game.

[TazFTW]

This year for sure, jeez Vinny....

Karma for the This is Sportscenter commercial with Jim Kelly.

[Rizon]

I almost thought for a second there that Jack Trudeau was behind center for the Colts. But then I noticed the Colts were completing some passes so it couldn't possibly be him.

[Desnudo]

Article on the SD Chargers locker room. Apparently not big fans of Norv?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArWiblhZpeV6fnSChjWnzZc5nYcB?slug=ms-morningrush111207&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Honolulu_Blue]

My Lions looking good in season.

This post appeared to be the kiss of death...

please stop causing problems

[Bearcat729]

So Peterson has a high grade 2 tear of the Lateral Collateral Ligament in his knee.

They just showed video of Childress on ESPN news saying that maybe(and he stressed maybe) have Peterson put a brace on and play this weekend. Does this guy have a brain? I wouldn't let Peterson near a field until next season rather than risk something worse happening to him.

[st.cronin]

So Peterson has a high grade 2 tear of the Lateral Collateral Ligament in his knee.

They just showed video of Childress on ESPN news saying that maybe(and he stressed maybe) have Peterson put a brace on and play this weekend. Does this guy have a brain? I wouldn't let Peterson near a field until next season rather than risk something worse happening to him.

I think that's actually not that serious an injury, I would expect him to be able to play in a few weeks at worst. But yeah, given Peterson's history you'd want to play it somewhat safe.

[korme]

Sad to see that some of the analysts were right about Peterson- his running style is just asking for injury

[JediKooter]

Just curious, because I see Peyton Manning do it a lot, but is Philip Rivers not allowed to call an audible? Even Hellen Keller knows that the first play from scrimage for the Chargers is going to be a run by number 21. How can Rivers not see 8 or 9 guys all crowding the line expecting the run and not call an audible for a pass play?

[ISiddiqui]

In some coaches' systems, the QB is just not allowed to audible out.

[miami_fan]

IIRC one of the main reason the Chargers hired Norv Turner was that he essentially put in the offense that they have been running since Rivers has been in the league. If Rivers is not allowed to audible in this system, then that is another strike against Turner.

[JediKooter]

In some coaches' systems, the QB is just not allowed to audible out.

Completely understandable. I mean, I can understand if the talent just isn't there or something like that. Rivers is by no means an elite QB, but, I think he has the skills to adapt on the fly.

I will not be surprised if the Chargers finish 8-8 this season, unless some changes are made in the play calling.

[JediKooter]

IIRC one of the main reason the Chargers hired Norv Turner was that he essentially put in the offense that they have been running since Rivers has been in the league. If Rivers is not allowed to audible in this system, then that is another strike against Turner.

I agree with you. I mean, EVERYBODY knows they are going to run on first down, if Rivers could call an audible, at the very least, it will start to put doubt in the defense that, 'Hey, they might not be running it."

[Eaglesfan27]

Just announced on ESPN that Adrian Peterson tore a "minor" ligament in his knee - none of the 3 big ones. The Vikings have said he'll be out at least a week, but it seems like he would be gone longer than that even with a "minor" ligament torn.

Edit: It is the lateral collateral ligament that is torn. Not my area of expertise, but I would be surprised if he isn't out for at least a few weeks.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

This year for sure, jeez Vinny....

Glad we let that bum leave town. :)

[rkmsuf]

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