GroupThink - 1993 offseason

[QuikSand]

1993 offseason

Well, first things first. If you thought we might suffer from the “one and done” retirement syndrome (where players get their first title and walk away from the game) think again. We have a clean sheet on retirements. This may not be a good thing – with the long-term injuries that we still face.

Actually, upon looking at the injury sheet, we only have LT Hardy Woolridge listed as out, and his timetable has him coming back next year, perhaps (56 weeks). He counts for some $5.6m this year – but that isn’t the end of the world.

Here’s the real rub. DE Percy Foley, injured nearly all of last season, is now a shell of his former self. He’s in his 13th year anyway, but now his once-mighty ratings have dropped to be very average. He doesn’t look like a throwaway, but with a salcap hit of over $11m this year, he’ll be in jeopardy. He is listed as healthy, and is not a fan favorite, so we may consider whether to release him and take a cap hit of $2.25 this year and $4.5 next. It’s probably a fait accomplit. Tough break – but at least we got him a ring, I suppose – he’s an all-time great in this league, even though it was mostly before our time.

The Ox looks just dandy, fully recovered from his injuries. So, we can have a full discussion about what we do at the RB position, with two popular players giving us quality efforts.

I can’t recall for sure, but it looks to me like DE C.J. Davison may have suffered some dropoff. His ratings for run defense and PR technique are still strong, but now he doesn’t look so sharp with his complemetary ratings.

So, that’s a quick snapshot with our roster situation.


Financially, we got into the black last year for the first time, clearing $11 million! That’s also great news for the franchise – we have our ship in order both on the field and on the books.


Our head coach, Full Contact Jarvis, is indeed up for a new deal. Since we are trying to maintain realism here, I’m going to go ahead and try to keep him around – he did just take us all the way, after all. He accepts an offer for $6m per year, for three more seasons – so he’ll be back at the helm for the upcoming title defense season. That allows us to move ahead to the real debates…

We have only a handful of veteran players without contracts, believe it or not, so the choice on a franchise tag is pretty easy. We must make an offer to QB Pritchett, but past that we’re in the clear. We’ll forego using the tag this year, again.

[QuikSand]

File update #2

[Bee]

How much is Pritchett wanting?

[primelord]

He is asking for 7.9 Mil over 2 years. It could be worse I guess. :)

[Bee]

Yep. That's not nearly as bad as I feared.

[primelord]

Another problem we have is QB John Barker is also a fan favorite. So doesn't that mean we have to offer him a contract as well?

And did we break our house rules by resiging Isaac Terry last season? I went back and looked and it looks like we are only allowed to resign our guys in their last season if they are "classy veterans". Terry doesn

[Bee]

Terry was a restricted free agent, not under contract. So it wasn't a renegotiation, it was a resigning. We might have broken the rule about resigning our guys under the 20 step FA period though (we waited until after that to resign him). I think we have a rule anyone signed after the 20 step process should only be a URFA with a 1 year deal? Maybe QS could clarify that?

I think we made an exception for trading fan favorites (if a more popular player was at that postion), but didn't say if that was the case fo resigning them. I'm inclined to force us to resign him (or at least offer him his desired contract). I think by trading a player, you take a bigger hit to the salary cap. Letting them leave via free agency, you don't get any punishment. I think we should have to offer him a contract, if we resign him and no longer want him we have to trade him and take the salary cap hit. I just think overall there should be a negative affect to the team if we lose a fan favorite. That's just my look at it though, if we go another way that's fine with me.

[primelord]

Oh my word. Has anyone looked at how much Kent Wolfe is asking for???

$113.2 million over 5 years!!!!

It's going to be a damn shame to lose him. I expectde his request to be high, but I figured by the time we got to the end of the free agency process he might be reasonable. Even if he comes down from that number I can't see him getting down to a number we can afford.

[Bee]

Well, he was a heck of a player while he lasted. :(

[QuikSand]

I think we altered our "fan favorite" rule a bit last season - saying that we could not trade away nor cut a player who was rated fan favorite or idolized, unless there is another player rated as highly or higher at the same position.

Thus, at QB - that kept us from having to keep our entire trio, all of whom were popular. I think that's a pretty reasonable implementation of the real-life effects of popular players.

[QuikSand]

Okay, let's sort out our numbers a bit here.

We have 33 players under contract, and we have $22.6m under the salary cap. We have our original seven draft picks at the ass end of each round, which are projected to run us $7 million - that leaves us about $16m to sign another 13 players. That's not awful... until you consider who's slated to be leaving.

DT Kent Wolfe, a super-genius 4th round pick from our initial draft, is just gone. At well over $20m per season, there's just no way we get him back, period. He'll doubtlessly sign a olne-year cheap deal with some team after we toss him back... but he won't be with us. Get over it.

QB John Barker looks tough as well - he wants $3.8 this year and up from there. Assuming we have Pritchett back (which I think is pretty likely) I think Barker will be too pricey for a #3 QB.

RB Keith Baker has been nice, but he wants big bucks and will go. We still have two solid RBs, so we can handle this, I think.

SLB Gerald John has been a decent, cheap starter for us - a good fir for our system. Asking for $5m per-- he'll be getting our "Dear John" letter soon.

WR Corey Jacobs has been a nice returner, but is asking for real money and I don't see it happening. Buh-bye.

DE Gabe Blow wants $3m and change... I guess we cannot rule it out, but that's mostly because our DL is being emasculated. I don't think he's worth the money, but our desperation might bring him back, I suppose.

[primelord]

So by that rule we don't need to offer Barker a contract right?

[primelord]

If we have the cap space to spare. (I am sure we won't) I think we should offer RDE Pete Greer a deal. He is looking for a 1 year deal worth about 1 million dollars with no bonus.

[Bee]

I think we need to decide if we still have enough to make a run for it again next year.

If so, one of the key things we'll need is a decent starting LT via free agency (which may cost some money).

If not, we can look for someone to develop there in the draft (perhaps a 1st rounder?).

In any case, I think one of the first steps we need to take is deciding what our approach is going to be next year (rebuild or repeat?).

[primelord]

Well from a defensive perspective we are only losing 3 starters.

DT Kent Wolfe hurts the most he was just turning into a super star and now he gets to walk. I am holding out hope he will dramatically reduce his asking price, but I am sure we will have to part ways with him.

DE Gabe Blow is asking for a pretty resonable deal I think and although his numbers weren't eye popping he had very solid season last year. I wouldn't mind bringing him back, but I can understand if we can't.

SLB Gerald John is asking for too much for what he gave us. Especially last season. He didn't make many tackles for a guy playing the strong side. I think we can find a cheaper replacement. We can always slide Alan Martinez over to the strong side.

I think on defense we could probably plug the gaps enough to make another run. Although if we suffered many injuries we might be screwed because we will be very this in our reserves. We wonly have 4 Dlineman under contract right now.

[QuikSand]

At QB - we look good. Coghill is developing nicely, and gives us a solid future. We'll probably have old man Pritchett back this year on our original offer, which is fine. We probably lose Barker, but we can pick up another decent reserve-worthy guy.

At RB, we have two horses - doing fine there. Young FB carries his weight, too, and is still pretty cheap.

At WR, we have three youngsters - we're covered I think. TE is fine, too. We can fill in backups as need be, but have quality and depth, pretty affordably. (By the way, WR Shaun Blaine is developing into quite a player... as promised)

The OL needs some work, clearly. With Woolridge out, we are now very thin at OT, but the inside actually looks okay - at least in terms of starters. We pretty clearly have to rely on young Marshall Cunningham at one tackle spot, but left tackles aren't easy to come by.

The DL will also need work. We've got DT Ramsey now as the centerpiece... that's the only really good news. I think DT Castillo is a potential starter for this year, and is cheap. We probably stick with Davison, even though he's dropped off in skills. After that, the cupboards are pretty bare. DE Pete Greer might make sense as a potential re-signing... and maybe Kyle Cardenas, too. We need help, and lack the money to get it, I think.

At LB, we have guys coming back, but probably need to look closely at MLB Lonnie Bell's contract. We coudl save $8m by cutting him, and that might be unavoidable if we want to patch up elsewhere. We don't have a starting-caliber SLB, and with Gerald John leaving, that's a real hole. We also lack an obvious guy to switch to that spot. We have needs here, put plainly.

Boyd and Armstrong are very nice at CB, though pricey. We'd save nearly $11m by cuttign Armstrong - it has to be on the consideration list. At safety, our two starters are well paid, but solid. I'd liek to keep our starting foursome intact, but it takes dedication to their significant salaries.


Overall... it's not impossible, but it won't be easy. If we cut DE Percy Foley and clear out $9m this year, I think that gives us breathing room to fill in some gaps. Past that, it may come down to what we can live without.

[QuikSand]

Overall, I think we can hold this ship together, and give it another run in 1993.

[QuikSand]

I'm thinking that our top priorities might be:

starting defensive end
starting left tackle
starting strong-side linebacker
depth on the defensive line
depth in the secondary
depth on the offensive line

...in something close to that order. I don't think it's inconceivable to patch up most of these holes in one fashion or another with the cap space we have.

[Bee]

Well, I'd like a LT. :D

I'm going to my wife's gallery opening tonight. I won't be able to look at the latest files until tomorrow, so I won't be able to give any input on signings (or the draft if we get that far) before then. Just remember the LT is a key member of the offense. ;)

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... filling our hole at LT with a free agent might be sensible, since we expect to get back Woolridge after this season. So maybe we get a rent-a-tackle for a one or two year deal, then move on.

LT Tracy Pederson, a former Roller, is asking for about $2m a year - he's decent, slightly run-inclined, and might be a good fit.

There are a fair number of passable guys asking for around $2m per season... I think that might be a conceptually good move.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Hmmm... filling our hole at LT with a free agent might be sensible, since we expect to get back Woolridge after this season. So maybe we get a rent-a-tackle for a one or two year deal, then move on.

LT Tracy Pederson, a former Roller, is asking for about $2m a year - he's decent, slightly run-inclined, and might be a good fit.

There are a fair number of passable guys asking for around $2m per season... I think that might be a conceptually good move.

We could wait until after the draft, then there always seems to be one or two players at every position who are capabale of starting, and since Wolldridge will probably be coming back we only need to sign someone to a one year deal....just a though to throw out there...

[primelord]

Doug our house rules don't allow us to sign anyone after the draft that isn't an undrafted free agent.

[wade moore]

busy friday night... i want to jump in, but don't have time atm.. will tonight or early morning.. but my short synopsis is i think we can make a run...

[QuikSand]

If we're willing to spend $3m on a defensive end, I think FA Bruce Lindsey might be a better value. It looks like he's been pretty solid, despite a flat rating in pass rush technique - he still has put up very decent numbers against both the run and pass.

I think Gabe Blow is going in the wrong direction... and he'll never get 40+ tackles, like Lindsay can. Just a thought... I also think that could end up being a sensible place to just try to fill in via the draft, since free agents are so prohibitively expensive.


At OLB, Dennis Blake looks like a good fit for our system, though he admittedly is a weak-sider. Mayeb Philip Sotelo is the best of the natural strong siders?


Hmmm... we need some more specific thoughts before we go ahead. Right now, the only thing I have entered is an offer to QB Pritchett. Has anyone else given thought to free agents we could pursue?

[wade moore]

QS,

I'll do some in-depth looking at the FA Class and our specific players in the morning. It's getting late and I just can't do it coherently right now... But don't worry, I'll give more specific opinions than what I have so far.

[wade moore]

<u>QB</u>

<i>Our Guys</i> - As stated, I think Pritchett will stay with us with the money we give him. He's not asking for QUITE as much as I expected, which is good. Coghill is still under contract, which is very nice... Pritchett can stay on long enough for those red bars of Coghill's to slide up some more.. Barker is asking for more money than Pritchett?! No thank you, see you later Jack (John, whatever). I would like to offer Dresselhaus the 650k 1 year deal that he wants, I still think he is an intrigueing young QB.
<i>Free Agents</i> - QB Randy Fredrickson, at 1.4 mil is quite intrigueing. He was in the league for 6 years and never took a snap, now in his first full year starting he threw for 60%. QB Bo Ellis is cheaper at 650k, and he has some nice potential. More than likely we'll get our 4th QB in the draft or with an URFA though.
<i>Draft</i> - QB Gino Lindsay looks REAL nice, but it looks like he'll go with an early pick, and I don't believe we're in the position to trade up very far. There are actually quite a few very solid qb's in the draft. Rico Harris could fall to us, which would be interesting since he is a big time scrambling QB -- might suit our offense well. If we look a bit lower, Rufus Dill looks like he could fit our offense well also. I'm weary about spending too high of a pick here, because it really seems like Coghill will be our long-term solution.

I'll run through each position as I get spurts of time today..

[QuikSand]

It looks to me like we have enough cap room to actually make a real move or two this season. We've been spending real money at the LB position in years past - is that something we'd want to do again?

Do we perhaps pony up for LB Gerald John, who is a pretty good fit for our system? He wants something liek $5m per year - but he's not a prototype OLB - maybe he'll sit unpursued, and his demands will come down as free agency goes onward?

Check out his stats - he was our best coverage backer last year, with 14 PD to 32 passes caught - those are numbers you just don't get from a linebacker. And while he's not exactly a big playmker (interceptions or pass rushing) that subtle contribution to our pass defense is pretty meaningful.

The more I look at the LB position, the more I think that this guy's price might not be as unreasonable as I had thought. There are only a few guys in free agency who are demonstrably better than him - and they all want $9-1lm this year. Gerald John wants $4.8, and up from there. It's not wholly outlandish.

Especially if we don't have a list of obvious things to do with that money we'd save by letting him go... I think retaining Gerald John might end up being the most sensible thing for us to do here at linebacker.


If we decide not to keep G John, then I tihnk our most obvious options are to either move MLB Brandon peabody over to play the sam, or else we sign SLB Philip Sotelo, who wants something just under $3m per season, and is decent.

[QuikSand]

At defensive end, I know we have just been burned... but would we be wise at this point to just cut Percy Foley, and recycle the $9m we'd save back into the DE position? Our point there was to get an impact pass rusher, and right now we look like we have zero such players.

DE Riddick Finley looks like he coudl be gotten to a long term deal for soemthing like $10m per year... and he's just enterinig his prime. J.R. Sheehan is also a very solid performer, though more balanced than Finley - still worth a serious paycheck, especially with our outstanding needs. No one guy makes me jump for joy, but signing a guy like Riddick Finley might get us back on the map with our pass rush.

Particularly after this year, when DE C.J. Davison will likely be gone - we're in dire need at the DE position. Looks like a new deal with DE Pete Greer might make an awful lot of sense... we're going to need depth of some kind, we know that much.

[Bee]

Offensive Line

LT: Tracy Pederson looks like the best option out there for us for a reasonable price. We'll need a backup as well, I suggest either picking one up late in the draft (if someone falls that we like) or just signing a URFA. Our main backup can be from the RT position for this season and next year we'll have Pederson and Wooldridge back (hopefully :)).

LG: I'd like to bring Penick back if we can. He's not wanting big money or anything and he's as good as anyone else at that price. Should help our cohesion and gives us a solid backup in case we have an injury at guard.

C: I would like to let our backup center go (I think he's a RFA this season) and pick up FA Kendrick Hauck as the backup next season. Hauck is not wanting much money and would be a solid backup if necessary.

RG: I'm not a big fan of Newman, I'd like to see us trade him (maybe for a 3rd rounder?) and draft a young backup for Terry with that pick. That's assuming we resign Penick at LG to be our main guard backup.

RT: We need to get a backup RT. I like Emmanual Johnston, but there are a couple others in the same price category that would be good for a backup (like Mel Poston).

So I suggest we sign the following FAs:
LT Tracy Pederson - starter
LG Andre Penick - backup (our FA)
C Kendrick Hauck - backup
RT Emmanual Johnston - backup

and trade:
RG Fernando Newman for a 3rd rounder (I think that's reasonable, if you guys think that's too much or too little we can adjust it before the trade offer).

[wade moore]

First off, I will defer to Bee for the OL... I read his comments and glanced at the players, and I agree with his assessment...

<u>RB</u>

<i>Our Guys</i> - I would love to keep The Ox. Our GM seems content on the same thin, so this makes me quite happy. As I've stated before, Crawford and Baker have done well as backups, but they have averaged .9 and .6 less ypc respectively over their careers. And to think, The Ox is someone who I thought was not worth the money and I wanted to get rid of before our first season -- Good thing we have a farsighted GM who saw something in the kid, I love him now. Baker has been a great backup, but he's just that.. and our third stringer to boot. With less than 90 carries in the last two years, he wants over 9 mil per?! I don't think so, letting him go is a no-brainer. Crawford has really filled in his red bars well. I love him as the counterpart to The Ox, but it will be sad to see him go next year (er, we may have to offer cause he is idolized and The Ox is fan favorite?), because if we can avoid his contract, we should.. We don't want almost $20mil tied up in RBs. Tracy Sullivan was a filler RB that may be worth signing to the 1 year, 650k offer that he wants for the sake of cohestion.

<i>Free Agents</i> - There is really nothing I like here that is better than Sullivan for 650k. If we don't plan to grab an RB in the draft, Stanley Samuels might be a safe bet at 810k, but I would say a URFA is probably going to fair better than him.

<i>The Draft</i> - Umm... has anyone looked at the top two RBs in the draft?! If there is any way on this green earth that we could trade up to get Thurman Laporte or Kenneth McDonald (I like McDonald a little more), our running game would be IMPOSSIBLE to stop. I mean.. IMPOSSIBLE... In an odd way, I'd say it is worht trading The Ox to get one of these guys, but when I think about the NFL that makes no sense -- Trade a proven guy who you know can get it done and has years left for a guy who should be able to. But, either way, if we could trade something, anything to get one of these guys I would be the happiest man alive. Ok, moving back to the real world... I like Steven Battle as a potential 2nd or 3rd round pick if he would still be around at our very low position. For even later in the draft, Brant Fox looks like he could be a decent backup. Pretty much outside of the top two guys and Steven Battle, we may want to just hold off and get a URFA to fill in the 4th slot for a RB.

<i>Synopsis</i>

Resign:
FB Anunson (Backup)
RB Sullivan (Backup)

Pursue:
No one

Draft:
McDonald (1st round)
Laporte (1st round)
Battle (2nd or 3rd round)

[wade moore]

<U>WR</U>

<i>Our Guys</i> - Corey Jacobs, you are not that good. Have fun elsewhere. FL Wayne Hill has performed well for us and his contract is up next year, but he is a fan favorite. This could mean trouble for us, as he wants serious money. We MAY get outbid, but i'm afraid we might not. We're set with our starting two split ends for now, but I would like more consideration on whether Blaine should be moved to FL. I don't know how well the transitions work, so I would be curious to hear from those who have more experience with it.

<i>Free Agents</i> - SE Martin Hiller looks pretty good, despite the somewhat hefty price tag (a little over 2 mil) If we watn someone who can contribute on Special Teams, SE Ben Daniels is a better receiver than Jacobs was, but he can only return Kicks.

<i>The Draft</i> - I'm not good at picking out busts, but if he isn't one FL Harvey Corlett would be a great compliment to McAlister and might help open our offense a bit. Only problem is, he's probably a top 15 pick which puts us out of the picture. FL Randal Rayburn is intrigueing as a possible 1/2 pick because he could start at FL if Hill leaves, but he can also return kicks and punts shoring up that position for us. SE Lester Foster provides the same advantage of being a returner, although he would wallow at #3 in our SE depth chart and/or #2 at FL. SE Leland Cassidy might be worth a 3/4 pick due to his big play receiving alone.

<i>Synopsis</i>

Resign:
No one

Pursue:
SE Ben Daniels (only if not drafting a WR)

Draft:
FL Harvey Corlett (1st)
FL Rayburn (1st/2nd)
SE Foster 3/4

[wade moore]

<u>TE</u>

This one is easy.. We've got two solid guys.. we can pick up a URFA for the third spot and draft a TE to replace Loftis in the future if that is the BPA, otherwise, I don't see doing much at this position.. Along with our GM, I'm very happy with the tandem we have..

[wade moore]

<u>K/P</u>

I think we keep Covington, nothing out there seems like a big step up. There are a few P's I wouldn't mind grabbing in the draft if they're available at the right time -- particuraly Geoff Jarvis, he can really nail the ball. Also Fernando Garrard looks good, not as much power, but great control.

[Doug5984]

Well after reading all of the posts on what we should do during the offseason I tend to agree with everything already said. As for WR, I would like to see if maybe we can play switch 'em up with the WRs if they won't take rating hits, I think McAllister should be our flanker, Blaine the back up FL, and Hill the SE....BUT if they were to take any sort of rating hit then it is really no big deal how it is....I really hope we get a 1,000 yard reciever next year, that is the only thing we have yet to do.

As for Defense, I think we have some holes to fill on the D-line, and besides that if we just add some depth we might be able to make another run for the championship.

This offseason I think we should concentrate on just filling glaring needs, then maybe sign some backups to 1 and 2 year deals with around 1-2 million a year, this would give us some good depth, and not hurt us in the next few seasons when it appears we might be rebuilding.

[wade moore]

Offensive Priorities:

LT
Depth on the Line
Young RB
Young FL


Doug - as for the 1,000 yard receiver.. I know that is something you want, but the way I'm running the offense that just isn't a priority of mine. Obviously I am going for ball control and as long as we get rushing yards, passing yards -- particuraly to WRs -- is just icing on the cake.. I'd rather have 3 WR's total 2,500 yards with another 1,000 or so between RBs, FBs, and TEs than have a WR with 1,500 yards, another with 500 and the RBs, FBs, and TEs getting 500...

[primelord]

Sorry guys I am not sure how much time I am going to ahve to contribute this weekend. We have a lot going on.

I will make a few comments now though. I am in favor of cutting our losses with Percy and reinvesting it in another stud DE. Finley looks awesome and would be an excellent pick up for us. I alos really like Greer and agree with Quik it makes sense to look into sigining him. Maybe we could push him to a second year with no bonus.

At LB Lonnie Bell is not aging particularly well. His ratings have dropped quite a bit from when we first signed him. I wouldn't be terribly against cutting him also. But that would meane we would have a decent chunk of dead cap from those two over the next two years. If we free up that 8 million from Bell is it at all possible for us to pursue a guy like MLB J.B. Wolfe?

After looking at some of the other SLB's on the market I agree with Quik that John's demands don't look nearly as bad as they did. I would like to see him make a few more tackles, but what can you do.

I guess my ideal free agency would be for us to cut Foley, Bell, and Kold. That would hopefully give us enough money to pursue. Finley and Wolfe. And then if we can find the money to sign John that would be great, but if not slide Peabody over to the strong side.

[QuikSand]

I'll hope to launch the FA process tomorrow morning... we have a sense of direction it seems.

[QuikSand]

Okay, didn't get to it this morning... was too nice outside. But I'll spend a few minutes with a proposed outline of moves now- after I post that, it will give us more focus for our discussion, at least.

[QuikSand]

1993 Free Agency – a proposed course of action

Release DE Percy Foley, saves us $9m this year – cap room up to $31.6m.
Release WILB Jeremy Kolb (GM takes the heat for this one)


FA Offers to:

QB Roger Pritchett – 2 yrs, $7.9m
LG Andre Penick – 3yrs, $6.9m
LT Tracy Pederson – 2 yrs, $4.0m
RT Emanuel Johnson – 2yrs, $2.7m
C Donovan Jackson – 2yrs, $2.6m
DE Riddick Finley – 4yrs, $40m*
DE Ken Zessin – 2yrs, $2.6M
LB J.B. Wolfe – 2yrs, $20.5m
LB Albert Ramsey – 2yrs, $2.1m
CB Walt Crawford – 2yrs, $1.9m

Player re-signed already:
DE Peter Greer – 2 yrs, $2.3m

With that, my plan is to put in a decent offer for MLB Wolfe, and if he signs, then we cut our current starter at MLB, Lonnie Bell. I don’t know if we’d end up with DE Finley – he ought to be heavily pursued, but ours is a pretty strong offer, I think. I suspect we’ll get most of our other pursuits. (CB Crawford is a decent return man, at a very affordable price – the other new names are affordable no-bonus offers… if we don’t need the players, we can easily cut these guys)


That’s my basic plan. I don’t see how we can afford spending real money on a free agent WR… I’d rather look for a rookie there.

Overall, I think this would probably leave us looking at DL, WR, RB, and DB for our top rookie picks, in part depending on what happens with DE Finley and LB Wolfe. In the event we don’t get DE Finley, then I think we might have the cash to go after re-signing DT Kent Wolfe during the later stages of free agency – if his demands come down pretty appreciably.

That’s more or less where my head is… what say you?

[wade moore]

I agree 100% with your plan.. I definately agree with the WR. I think on this team, WR is a position we should never spend big money on, unless it is re-signing a fan favorite..

I'm very interested to see how the draft goes...

[primelord]

Quik,

Actually I think I made a mistake on which LB I wanted to pursue. I said J.B. Wolfe (who is very good himself), but I meant Edwin Hill. Hill is a better run defender, better zone defender, better at bump and run, better with play diagnosis, and is younger. Plus he is looking for roughly the same money as Wolfe. Is it too late to change our offer?

[QuikSand]

primelord, I have put in a new offer - 4yrs, $45m (last seaosn voidable) to MLB Edwin Hill. The strategy is basically the same, it's just a matter of swapping out Wolfe for Hill. I still would plan to cut Lonnie Bell if we get Hill.

[primelord]

Originally posted by QuikSand
primelord, I have put in a new offer - 4yrs, $45m (last seaosn voidable) to MLB Edwin Hill. The strategy is basically the same, it's just a matter of swapping out Wolfe for Hill. I still would plan to cut Lonnie Bell if we get Hill.

Excellent. :)

[wade moore]

I know QS was probably enjoying the weather we had on the East Coast like me, that's why no moves today. what a slacker, would that fly in the NFL?!! :) Just kidding, I merely wanted to rib the GM a bit..

[QuikSand]

We head into free agency, loaded to make a series of moves to move forward.

In the first week of free agency, we get some potentially bad news. LB Edwin Hill, our top pursuit for the critical MLB position, is being courted by several other teams. Our deal doesn’t even stack up against their top deals – Kitty Hawk is looking at $52m over the same four years we offered $45 – I don’t think we’ll land this big fish.

We look good to get DE Riddick Finley, though. So, our DL situation shouldn’t be too bad – though we will still need depth.

Roger Pritchett re-signs with us, and so we will have some very visible continuity coming off our title season. I have to think this will pose us some challenges… do you really bench the guy who won it all for you, and won the Superbowl MVP (while injured, even)?

We get to week six, have most of our players signed… but MLB Edwin Hill is still sitting out there, mulling over his many offers. Finally, in week nine, it’s Kitty Hawk who lands the big fish – they reel in LB Edwin Hill for about $13m per year.

We’re approaching the late FA stages now, and LB Gerald John still sits… with no contract for this year. As reflected earlier, he is a good fit for our system – a very solid zone defender, and a decent complement to our better run stoppers at the other spots.

However, DT Kent Wolfe is still looking for monstrous cash. I just don’t see how we make that work – even if we were to cut our MLB Lonnie Bell.

As we prepare to wrap up the free agency period, here’s where we are:
41 players signed, 7 more coming in the draft, $2.4m in excess cap room

I decide against trying to pull anything off before the draft – so we will go ahead into the rookie draft, and then we’ll move forward from there, including some serious roster reckoning.


Rather than speculating ad nauseum about what might happen ahead of us in the draft, I’ve decided to go ahead with at least the early draft stages… if a standout seems to be falling close to our pick, I may stop things, and give us a chance to decide what to do. With that, we’ll go ahead and run the beginnings of the rookie draft:


1. Fort Wayne - Norton, Oliver, DT, Rhode Island
2. Norfolk - Gale, Steven, T, Tennessee
3. Niagara Falls - Perron, Hugh, DE, Southern Mississippi
4. Death Valley - Atchison, Spencer, QB, Iowa
5. Athens - Hills, Alvin, T, Minnesota
6. Providence - Lander, Ken, CB, Towson
7. Thunder Bay - Hickman, Jessie, DE, Washington State
8. Ypsilanti - McDonald, Kenneth, RB, Ferris State
9. Louisville - Harding, Lance, DE, Wake Forest
10. Sault Ste. Marie - Corlett, Harvey, WR, Michigan State
11. Napa Valley - Laporte, Thurman, RB, Kansas State
12. Cheyenne - Becker, Steve, ILB, Michigan State
13. Puget Sound - Hoyle, Jon, DE, UCLA
14. Fort Knox - Lindsay, Gino, QB, South Carolina
15. Bermuda - Mitchell, Jim, DT, Indiana Univ., Pa.
16. Memphis - Gonzalez, Rick, DE, Notre Dame
17. Ocean City - Garcia, Jerome, T, Washington
18. Pensacola - Farner, Derrick, DT, Harvard
19. Lake Erie - Crowninshield, Paul, RB, Virginia
20. Hawk Mountain - Fuller, Benjamin, C, UCLA
21. Kitty Hawk - Bunting, A.J., G, Pace
22. Nashua - Battle, Steven, RB, Marshall
23. Mazatlan - Bigelow, Chester, DT, Purdue
24. Key West - Covington, Quinn, WR, Texas
25. Champaign - Anthony, Michael, DE, South Carolina
26. Wheeling - Howen, Ben, DE, Fort Lewis
27. Tulsa - Goodwin, Alonzo, RB, Oklahoma
28. Kitty Hawk - Woolley, Mickey, S, Sacred Heart (Conn.)
29. Thunder Bay - Jackson, Reggie, ILB, Maryland
30. Manhattan - Cushenbery, Hunter, QB, Miami, Florida
31. Sacramento - Van Pelt, J.C., DE, Minnesota


Well, nobody sitting there at pick #20 or so really bowled me over, so I have exercised yet another executive decision, and run the draft up to our first pick. Time for some discussion about our collective priorities, and how we might go with this pick in that light.

[QuikSand]

File update #1

[QuikSand]

And file #2

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... I'm not exactly bowled over by the remainig draft prospects at our obvious "need" areas. We could do okay at WR here (maybe Perea?) but I don't see a standout at DL or LB... too bad, too. Any other thoughts?

[primelord]

Quik,

What do you think of DT Clyde Cote? I know he has a punish hitting rating that could be a concern, but if he pans out he would be a great one to pair with Ramsey.

Also since we landed Finley we have to decide if we want to shift him or Davison over to LDE. I am guessing we want to move Davison.

[QuikSand]

I think DT Clyde Cote is pretty much a bust. He'll be a decent marginal starter, but never anything more. Pass.

(I honestly think that "seeing" rookies in the draft for what they are [with a reasonable degree of frequency] is the biggest difference between this game perhaps being a bit challenging, and just being a total pushover)

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by primelord
Also since we landed Finley we have to decide if we want to shift him or Davison over to LDE. I am guessing we want to move Davison.

Davison has now made the switch fairly painlessly, for what that's worth.

[QuikSand]

Assuming we actually use this pick... the "best players available" might be, in some order:

CB Jessie Brady
WR Deion Perea
LB Clay Harden
C Dixon Kournikova
DT Ernest Duffy?
S Ernest Hawkins
LB Deron Hoffman

I see a lot of secound round talent on that list... not a single guy to get really worked up about.

[primelord]

We could look at a guy like LCB Jessie Brady. He isn't quite as good in zone coverage as I would like, but overall he looks very solid. It's actually pretty slim pickings at this point.

There are several guys that look solid. A guy like RDT Gus Lang or LDT Ernest Duffy look like guys who could be good picks, but they don't look like guys we would want to take in the first round.

[primelord]

Heh it seems we were thinking roughly the same thing. :)

[primelord]

What do our house rules say about trading picks for players? It seems likely we could trade our 1st round and maybe like a 6th round for a guy like SLB Gerald John

[wade moore]

Any consideration to FL Rayburn, considering his Special Teams contributions? Him and Perea are relatively equal everywhere (except big play receiving) in all areas beyond that... I do like Perea better as a receiver, but I wonder how much the return ability should weigh in? Although it is hard to pass up that great big play receiving..

Looking at all other offensive positions, I just can't see taking any other player besides one of these Flankers, as the talent level is just not there at the other positions... I would consider each of these guys heavily to possibly start over Hill this year, which makes them very good candidates for this low first round pick..

[wade moore]

I would be all for tradingthis pick.. my comments on teh WRs were if we actually used this pick, but it does seem like a bit of a waste for a 1st rounder..

[QuikSand]

Maybe we should try to get an extra first rounder next year in a trade? I'd be quite happy to trade out of this spot, too... and the money we'd save now could get recycled into re-signing our own decent players.

Here's a benchmark. Providence will take this pick, plus our fifth this year and third next year - all in exchange for next year's first round pick. They selected #6 overall this year... so there's a decent shot that the pick would be a good one.

How does something like that sound to you all?

[QuikSand]

By the way, if he's there for our second pick, I'll vote for LB Clay Harden. I love the name, and I think he could be better than he appears.

[Bee]

I haven't had a chance to look at the draft or anything, but the trade sounds like a good deal if there are no players who stand out. Someone might want to take a quick look at Providence and see what additions/losses they've had to their team in Free Agency and who they drafted so far. That might give us an idea of how much they've improved their team and what kind of draft pick we are talking about for next year. Just a thought, if someone has the time to do that.

[primelord]

I haven't had a chance to look at the roster like Bee suggested yet, but I am inclined to say we should make this trade too. I think most of the guys we are considering at this pick will be at the next pick. So it certainly seems to make sense to get another 1st rounder for next year and still land one of the guys we are targeting.

[QuikSand]

We make the deal with Providence. I fell like we overpaid, but that's actually kind of refreshing... we were in a tough spot, I think.

Here's how the draft has unfolded:


32. Providence - Cote, Clyde, DT, Brown
33. Fort Wayne - Schwartz, Earl, WR, Kansas State
34. Norfolk - Kovarik, Tyrus, G, North Carolina State
35. Niagara Falls - Matthews, Julio, DT, Toledo
36. Death Valley - Jarvis, Cory, OLB, Michigan State
37. Athens - Forbes, Aaron, G, Alabama
38. Providence - Mathews, Kerry, OLB, UAB
39. Thunder Bay - Buckey, Ike, C, Miami, Florida
40. Ypsilanti - Joseph, Moe, G, Adams State
41. Louisville - Lang, Gus, DT, Arizona State
42. Sault Ste. Marie - Graham, Brett, ILB, Ark. - Pine Bluff
43. Napa Valley - Rodriguez, Geoff, DT, Clemson
44. Cheyenne - Harmon, Mitchell, T, Texas
45. Puget Sound - Richard, Monty, RB, Clemson
46. Fort Knox - Kournikova, Dixon, C, Colorado
47. Bermuda - Brady, Jessie, CB, Stonehill
48. Memphis - Buchans, Rodney, OLB, Michigan State
49. Puget Sound - Rainville, Chris, T, Austin Peay
50. Tijuana - Fountaine, Van, DE, Miss. Valley St.
51. Lake Erie - Tomich, Robbie, DT, Oklahoma State
52. Hawk Mountain - Duffy, Ernest, DT, UCLA
53. Tijuana - Grant, Glen, DE, Syracuse
54. Nashua - Gaines, Robbie, T, California
55. Mazatlan - Schofer, Morris, C, North Carolina State
56. Key West - Price, Jerald, DT, Iowa State
57. Champaign - Krueger, Ethan, DE, Duke
58. Wheeling - White, Randal, CB, Georgia
59. Tulsa - Harding, Earl, DT, Maryland
60. Kitty Hawk - Everett, Bernard, CB, Sacred Heart (Conn.)
61. Norfolk - Fagundez, Alonzo, CB, Texas Christian
62. Manhattan - Battle, Lee, DT, Notre Dame
63. Sacramento - Goodwin, Eugene, G, Southern California


Analysis to come...

[QuikSand]

Who's left from our list? (and who else looks decent here?)

WR Deion Perea
LB Clay Harden
LB Deron Hoffman
DE R.J. Banks
WR Randal Rayburn
SS Ernest Hawkins
RT Martin Conn
LT Randal Upshaw
...


For my money, the choice is between the two wideouts (Perea is decent and a possible breakout, Rayburn has return skills and modest downside) and the arguably best LB left Harden (also decent with possible breakout signs). Both are need positions, I think - LB more so immediately. WR definitely for next season and beyond.

You know where my heart is, but I agree you can make the case either way.

[primelord]

Quik,

I am just not seeing what you are seeing in Harden. To me he looks liek an average run defender, a below average zpne defender, and poor at diagnosing plays. Those are the three most important aspects of a LB in our system. To me it looks like he would need to be a considerable breakout in order to be much of an impact player.

WLB Deron Hoffman looks like he fits our scheme better. Of course I am not as good at spotting break out players as you are (I didn't think Kent Wolfe would be all that great :)) so if you think Harden is the guy I will defer to you, but if we are looking at taking a LB Hoffman looks like the pick to me.

[QuikSand]

Well, here's another look at it. As much as I like Harden (and yes, it's practically all about his potential to exceed expectations... though I think his current green ratings are money in the bank, and I won't say that about Hoffman) there is the reality that he is listed as the 9th-rated OLB left in the draft, on the overall board (Hoffman is 6th). Poitn being - maybe we can wait a round, and then get to pick our LB in round three (maybe still chossing from between these two).

Then, we might have a similar isue with WR. Deion Perea is the #1 rated guy, so he's not going to be around much longer. (He also, incidentally, is a very solid kick returner - just so that doesn't get lost as we talk about other return options) But, Rayburn is a little better in the return game with ability to return both punts and kicks. And once again, much fo my taste for Perea lies in his potential to exceed expectations - he's another classic profile guy.

At WR, I think Perea is the guy, hands down. He is a true profile guy, he has quality ratings everywhere (Rayburn has a void at 3rd down catching), has good return skills (though not as good as Rayburn's) and has better current skills (more effective right away).

So, with that in mind, I think taking WR Perea makes sense here, and then we sit back and hope that one of both LBs are still there after 32 more selections.

[primelord]

That sounds like a good strategy to me.

[Doug5984]

I don't have FOF4 with me right now so I can't look at the players ratings, but I am all for taking one of the WRs with this pick....I think it is a good idea to surround our QB with as much talent as possible and I think this would be one of the best ways to do that. Also, I like the trade we made to trade out of the first round, we gave up some this year, but who knows maybe our pick will be a top 10 pick next year.

[QuikSand]

Okay, here's how the draft unfolds from here - starting at the end of round two:


64. Little Rock - Perea, Deion, WR, Miami, Florida

65. Fort Wayne - Dillon, Keith, DE, Georgia Tech
66. Norfolk - Klingbiel, Leon, DE, Florida State
67. Niagara Falls - Bynum, Orlando, G, Ohio State
68. Death Valley - Sellers, Josh, DE, Missouri
69. Athens - Southward, Oscar, OLB, Tennessee
70. Providence - Rayburn, Randal, WR, Louisiana Tech
71. Thunder Bay - Hawks, Vinny, WR, Rutgers
72. Texarkana - Smithson, Oliver, DT, Juniata
73. Louisville - Cardinell, Leslie, DT, Louisville
74. Sault Ste. Marie - Upshaw, Randal, T, Virginia
75. Napa Valley - McCarthy, Paul, G, Louisiana State
76. Cheyenne - Cuthbert, Clifton, OLB, Fairfield
77. Hawk Mountain - Quinn, Clyde, OLB, UNLV
78. Fort Knox - Green, Bo, G, Ohio State
79. Bermuda - McIntyre, Jack, ILB, Mississippi State
80. Memphis - Davidson, Gilbert, ILB, Nebraska
81. Ocean City - Dawson, Willie, G, UCLA
82. Pensacola - Mahan, Artie, DE, West Chester
83. Lake Erie - Vaughn, Jon, TE, Kentucky
84. Hawk Mountain - Devine, Larry, DE, Tennessee
85. Tijuana - Finister, Marcus, RB, Louisiana-Lafayette
86. Nashua - Sanford, Renaldo, S, Louisiana - Monroe
87. Mazatlan - Carrell, Donny, DE, Tulsa
88. Key West - Lamarr, Norbert, C, Louisville
89. Champaign - Bradford, Tommy, RB, Louisville
90. Wheeling - Lynn, Randall, WR, Missouri - Rolla
91. Tulsa - Bookwalter, Tyrus, G, Louisville
92. Kitty Hawk - Gilmore, Juan, T, Arkansas
93. Texarkana - Almonte, Harvey, DE, Holy Cross
94. Manhattan - Fredrickson, Lester, RB, Wake Forest
95. Sacramento - Wheeler, Harris, OLB, Texas Tech

96. Little Rock - Harden, Clay, OLB, East Carolina

97. Fort Wayne - Banks, R.J., DE, Notre Dame
98. Norfolk - Hopkins, Alex, OLB, New Mexico
99. Niagara Falls - Gaines, Vincent, T, Georgia
100. Death Valley - Hawkins, Ernest, S, Michigan
101. Athens - Bradford, Alan, TE, Air Force
102. Providence - Bullock, Donny, FB, North Carolina A&T
103. Thunder Bay - Hoffman, Deron, OLB, Washington State
104. Ypsilanti - Manuel, J.J., S, North Carolina State
105. Death Valley - Hawes, Marvin, CB, Glenville State
106. Sault Ste. Marie - Hardt, Lamont, FB, Notre Dame
107. Napa Valley - Corbett, Kendrick, CB, North Texas
108. Cheyenne - Schulz, Steven, S, Duke
109. Puget Sound - Cox, John, G, Louisiana State
110. Fort Knox - Lyon, Jumbo, TE, Cornell
111. Key West - Bradley, Dan, OLB, Harvard
112. Memphis - Bradley, Donnie, TE, East Carolina
113. Ocean City - Leemans, Burt, CB, Virginia Tech
114. Ocean City - Glenn, Tyrell, CB, Kansas State
115. Lake Erie - Daughtry, Pat, T, Oregon State
116. Hawk Mountain - Drakeford, Rico, DT, North Alabama
117. Tijuana - McDaniel, Colin, FB, South Carolina
118. Nashua - Cox, Preston, OLB, Tennessee
119. Mazatlan - Conn, Martin, T, North Carolina State
120. Key West - Barrett, Jessie, S, Ohio State
121. Champaign - Berman, Timothy, WR, Florida State
122. Wheeling - Johnson, Clifton, ILB, California
123. Tulsa - Gisler, Lewis, DE, Virginia
124. Kitty Hawk - Shannon, Rickey, CB, Hawaii
125. Puget Sound - Foster, Lester, WR, Brown
126. Manhattan - Guevara, Randy, TE, Maryland
127. Sacramento - Lyle, Grady, C, Georgia Tech


And we are on the clock again. I'll post a file update, so we can look together (who ever "we" is anymore).

[QuikSand]

First file

[QuikSand]

second file

[QuikSand]

Okay, pickings are getting pretty slim. But if you know me, then you probably know who I'd take here...

DT Howard Hammond

He'd fit in with this draft so far - solid pick, no downside for busting, potential to be a boom player. Worst case, he's an adequate reserve for a couple of years. Best case, he'll develop a bit like Kent Wolfe. (Uh, no promises there - even I didn't thisnk Wolfe would get *that* good)

[Bee]

Did we try to trade our RG backup Newman? If so, did it go through?

[primelord]

What do we think about a guy like LCB Christian Galoob? Could make a pretty good nickle back.

[primelord]

I wonder if we took someone like Galoob here if Hammond wouldn't maybe fall to us at our next pick. He would have to fall two rounds, but he isn't one of the top rated DT's remaining and I think we got Wolfe around that pick.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Bee
Did we try to trade our RG backup Newman? If so, did it go through?

Sorry... neglected to do it until now. We got Nashua's 3rd round pick (next year) in the deal. Nice call, Bee.

It doesn't necessarily help us much right away, but it replaces the pick we dealt away nicely.

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... I confess I don't see much to like in Galoob. Right now, we have CBs on the roster. Armstrong and Boyd are the starters, Crawford is a cheap return man, and that leaves Godfrey and Battle as our "reserves." I guess Galolob could pan out to be a bit beter than Battle... but that's about it, I'd think. No upside, some downside... I don't see a lot to like.

[Bee]

I like C Kennedy Austin a lot. He's by far the best O-lineman. He might be able to move over to guard and give us a young guy there. Just a thought.


DT Howard Hammond looks like the best pick overall.

[wade moore]

Sorry I'm not around to be more active during the draft, as I've said, I cannot check at work anymore due to the crack-down of internet surfing and the evenings are very busy for me.. I'll look in detail in the morning per usual, again, I apologize for not being able to be able to be on at shorter intervals during the day... should we start recruiting new scouts? We are obviously basically down to QS at GM, prime at DC, me at OC, Bee as basically the offensive scout concentrating on the Line, and Doug as the Defensive scout doing some offense.... with a few things thrown in here by others periodically (i.e. BigDPW, etc.. sorry to those i have not mentioned)..

[wade moore]

I'd like to throw TE Leonard Day into the mix. Between him C Austin, I think those are the only two guys we consider on offense here -- unless we want to go for one of the P's (it seems that they'll be gone next round or the round after)... I think we again are relatively slim here on picks that deserve a 4 th rounder, this year's draft seems relatively thin..

[QuikSand]

After I impose my mighty will on the entire collective (or rather, I just go ahead and take the guy I like, absent any consensus to do otherwise), we go ahead and finish a rather uninspiring draft.


128. Little Rock - Hammond, Howard, DT, UAB

129. Fort Wayne - Toomer, Blaine, T, Oregon State
130. Niagara Falls - Farley, Wally, S, Cincinnati
131. Niagara Falls - Boyd, Carlos, WR, California
132. Death Valley - Schultz, Edward, G, Florida State
133. Athens - Peters, Phil, ILB, Colorado
134. Providence - Vance, Brent, S, Arizona
135. Thunder Bay - Dennis, Justin, WR, Central Michigan
136. Ypsilanti - Blanchard, Ray, DE, Texas Tech
137. Louisville - Tibbs, Harry, FB, Virginia Tech
138. Sault Ste. Marie - Bergeron, Toby, S, Illinois
139. Napa Valley - Galoob, Christian, CB, New Mexico
140. Manhattan - McCarthy, Deion, OLB, Portland State
141. Puget Sound - Leska, Gilbert, WR, New Mexico
142. Fort Knox - Mabe, Gino, S, Arizona
143. Bermuda - O'Rourke, Glenn, WR, Temple
144. Memphis - Brady, Jonathan, WR, San Diego State
145. Ocean City - Riddols, Sean, WR, Wisconsin
146. Pensacola - Patterson, Jeff, T, Oregon State
147. Lake Erie - LaMarche, Leroy, CB, Hofstra
148. Hawk Mountain - Day, Leonard, TE, South Carolina
149. Tijuana - Tobar, Arnie, T, North Carolina
150. Nashua - Hollis, Darrell, G, Florida
151. Mazatlan - Greene, Myron, OLB, Washington State
152. Key West - Olin, Rusty, T, Minnesota
153. Champaign - Dimry, Chuck, CB, Colorado
154. Wheeling - Cassidy, Leland, WR, Kentucky
155. Tulsa - Mayes, Johnnie, WR, Mississippi
156. Kitty Hawk - Nedney, Cris, OLB, St. John's, NY.
157. Texarkana - Gaylor, B.J., TE, Washington
158. Manhattan - Otis, Roman, FB, Nebraska
159. Sacramento - Montenegro, Juan, RB, Minnesota
160. Providence - Crane, Ralph, S, New Hampshire
161. Fort Wayne - Forbes, Ralph, T, Purdue
162. Norfolk - Austin, Kennedy, C, Cornell
163. Niagara Falls - Kovarik, Dusty, T, Wake Forest
164. Death Valley - Monroe, Marcus, CB, Illinois
165. Athens - Keith, Irv, CB, Northwestern
166. Providence - Alston, Austin, T, Alabama
167. Thunder Bay - Linquist, Charlie, OLB, Louisiana State
168. Ypsilanti - Hickman, Lawrence, OLB, Michigan
169. Louisville - Oswald, Daniel, G, VMI
170. Sault Ste. Marie - Howard, Wally, DT, Utah
171. Napa Valley - Carpenter, William, DE, Clemson
172. Cheyenne - Rasmussen, Mercury, CB, Tennessee
173. Puget Sound - Williams, Freddie, G, Temple
174. Fort Knox - Dole, Brad, OLB, Arizona State
175. Bermuda - Caldwell, Ike, S, Southern California
176. Memphis - Moorthy, Rico, DE, Penn State
177. Ocean City - Arnold, Raymond, WR, Northwestern
178. Pensacola - Feingold, Roman, S, Nicholls State
179. Lake Erie - Jelinek, J.R., ILB, Clemson
180. Hawk Mountain - Heaton, Harold, S, Temple
181. Tijuana - Greer, Kris, CB, Louisiana - Monroe
182. Nashua - Carlisle, Aaron, OLB, Navy
183. Mazatlan - Melvin, Ellis, DE, Washington
184. Key West - Demeester, Clifton, TE, Stanford
185. Champaign - Harrison, Justin, CB, Georgia
186. Wheeling - Jarvis, Geoff, P, South Carolina
187. Tulsa - Vaughn, Jamal, WR, Oregon State
188. Kitty Hawk - Tanner, Rich, OLB, Northwestern
189. Texarkana - Munn, Gilbert, CB, Tennessee
190. Manhattan - Torres, Kendrick, DE, Maine
191. Sacramento - Oates, Darren, G, Florida State

192. Little Rock - Newton, Benjamin, QB, St. John's, NY.

193. Fort Wayne - Fernandes, Emmanuel, CB, Louisiana State
194. Manhattan - Stone, Clifton, T, Alabama
195. Niagara Falls - Hale, Stan, WR, Boston College
196. Death Valley - Garrard, Fernando, P, Washington State
197. Athens - Schultz, T.J., G, Ohio State
198. Providence - Stargell, Malcolm, CB, Boston College
199. Thunder Bay - Weaver, Mickey, T, Alma
200. Wheeling - Wilcox, Joseph, DT, Mississippi State
201. Louisville - Knight, Keith, T, Southern Methodist
202. Sault Ste. Marie - Judd, Brian, S, Hawaii
203. Napa Valley - Cole, Kenneth, DE, Florida
204. Cheyenne - Rossel, Timothy, FB, Arizona
205. Puget Sound - Wilkins, Daryl, FB, Arizona State
206. Fort Knox - McGregor, Geoff, T, Tulsa
207. Bermuda - Woodard, Deon, DE, North Carolina State
208. Memphis - Swanson, Jimmie, WR, Norfolk State
209. Ocean City - Groh, Donovan, K, Elon College
210. Pensacola - Lyle, Adam, WR, Panhandle State
211. Lake Erie - Schwarzhaupt, Marc, DE, New Mexico
212. Hawk Mountain - Watson, Troy, S, Florida State
213. Tijuana - Ingram, Terrell, S, Florida State
214. Nashua - Bobbitt, Ricardo, ILB, Oregon State
215. Mazatlan - Glaze, Travis, WR, Oregon
216. Key West - Mankey, Edward, ILB, Notre Dame
217. Champaign - Fuller, K.C., ILB, Temple
218. Wheeling - Blake, D.J., TE, Duke
219. Tulsa - Cole, Grady, S, Wisconsin
220. Kitty Hawk - Miailovich, Ross, K, West Virginia
221. Texarkana - Maloney, Junior, ILB, Washington State
222. Manhattan - Cook, Van, G, Pittsburgh
223. Sacramento - Cobbs, Leslie, CB, Rutgers

224. Little Rock - Brooks, Jerald, CB, Kansas State


My thinking with CB Brooks is that he looks like the best safety left, and has pretty good size for the potential switch. Welcome to Little Rock, Mr. Irrelevent.

[QuikSand]

After getting to round six, there weren't any players left worth fighting over, believe me. So, I just went ahead and finished the draft.

We come out of the draft with 45 players signed, and $6.5m remaining under the cap limit. We need to fill spots at RB and FB, past that it's up to us - we're legal.

I'll post updated files, and let you all chip in on what to do from here...

[QuikSand]

First file update

[QuikSand]

Second file update

[Bee]

Originally posted by QuikSand
After getting to round six, there weren't any players left worth fighting over, believe me. So, I just went ahead and finished the draft.


Based on this, I assume the URFA class looks pretty bad as well. Since I can't look at anything until this evening, I'm more than inclined to let you go ahead pick up what little talent there is and move forward.

[QuikSand]

We have some work to do today - decide who among our current unsigned players we want to re-up with, and then decide how to fill in the rest of the roster. No, the URFA class doesn't seem to be very deep, but there are a few guys who are worth grabbing, I think.

By the way, CB Jerald Brooks showed some slight improvement when I bumped him over to free safety - so pencil that in (I don't think I had done so when I saved the game for the last file updates).

[Bee]

I wouldn't mind getting a young guard if there's one who looks like a potential breakout player. We are a little long in the tooth there other than Terry.

[primelord]

Hey look. Kent Wolfe has come all the way down to 93.6 million over 5 years. What a bargin. :)

[Bee]

Originally posted by primelord
Hey look. Kent Wolfe has come all the way down to 93.6 million over 5 years. What a bargin. :)

Maybe we should fire Quik and bring in Dan Snyder so we can get him under the cap. ;)

[primelord]

Originally posted by Bee
Maybe we should fire Quik and bring in Dan Snyder so we can get him under the cap. ;)

Now you're thinking! :)

[primelord]

I am kind of thinking out loud here, but see what you guys think of this.

I believe in our defense the defensive line is the key to our system. We rely on them to pressure the QB and to stop the run. So the question is given how important the line is to us would we pay Kent Wolfe the money he is asking for if we had it available?

Right now he wants 13 million in his first year and then it really escalates from there. If we think we would be willing to pay him that kind of maney then maybe we should consider trading Alonzo Armstrong. We are currently spending 13 million on him this season (save 10 million if we trade/release him) and I think we can get by with a lesser corner in our system.

I think Armstrong has been very solid for us and I would prefer to keep em both, but I think Kent Wolfe make s a bigger impact in our system. Now with that being said if we think the money he is asking for is too much whether we have that kind of cash or not then I guess the point is moot. :)

[primelord]

The more I think about it the more I really like that idea. Korey Godfrey isn't an all-star by any means, but he has played solid in the limited duty he has seen with us. I am comfortable with letting him start and trading Armstrong to make room for Wolfe.

We might be able to get a 1st rounder for Armstrong and can look fro a stud to replace him with one of our 3 1st round picks that would give us.

[QuikSand]

I've thought about that a little, too, primelord. I sspect we coudl get a deent deal for Armstrong, and it would free up some pretty serious coin ($11m this year).

Had we planned on this, we might have taken the top CB with out first round pick - that would give me a lot more comfort with such a move.

However, given our current situation, let's look at where we stand at DT. Ramsey is on his way to being a major force - a star of the same caliber as Kent Wolfe. Castillo will start this year, and looks like a decent run stopper - an admittdely passable fill-in. Rookie Hammond is an unknown, but is at least a passable third guy. The key is basically Castillo - he's got a 7.5 TkPct rating over his career - that's not too bad. He won't contribute much tothe pass rush, admittedly, but I think we can get by with him in there.

I look at Korey Godfrey as a potential starter at CB, and I am filled with fear. Given our already weak backups in the secondary, we'd have some guys on the field who are really way short of being up to snuff. We're going to be ahead in a lot fo games... our secondary is going to get tested this year, we know that. I'd be very uncomfortable letting Armstrong go.


All that said, look at the actual players who were in at DL for us last year, as we marched to our title. Our DL was decimated, and we still were higly ranked in both defensive categories. While conceptually having a strong DL is important... there's some evidence to suggest that it doesn't need to be as strong as we think.


All told, I think that if we wanted to re-sign DT Kent Wolfe, we have to look elsewhere. RB Oksenberg or MLB Lonnie Bell would be, in my mind, the most logical choices. Indeed, Bell is a candiate anyway - he'd save us $8 million, we have a rookie who shoudl be capable ot stepping into the starting lineup this year in Clay Harden... that cut might make sense.

Then, we're right back to our original question about DT Wolfe. Is he worth the ungodly sum he's seeking? It would keep us strapped for years to come, no doubt.

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... we seem to have a problem at LB. Both Alan martinez and rookie Clay Harden are natural weak-side backers, and are both undersized to the point where they cannot switch to another LB spot, only the secondary. That foils part of my LB reshuffling scheme that might have freed up funding for DT Wolfe.

$#!&

Makes me think that the $4-5m that SLB Gerald John is asking for is looking more reasonable with every look.

[Bee]

Whle I like Wolfe alot, I dont think he's worth that much money.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by Bee
Whle I like Wolfe alot, I dont think he's worth that much money.

same here, he is a very good player...and it would be nice to be able to keep the players we drafted- that is just such a high amount of money that would keep us cap strapped for years to come.

Is it possible to restructure the contract so that it is a smaller signing bonous and smaller years up front (8-10 million season for the first 2 years) so that we could use Wolfe for another season or 2 then cut him. Just another idea.

[primelord]

I have no problem cutting Bell. His skills are declining very rapidly now. The reason I liked the idea of moving Armstrong is because he gives us more flexibility to sign another of our players than if we cut Bell.

One thing to keep in mind is if you were planning on sliding Harden over to fill the MLB spot he doesn't weigh enough to switch positions. He actually doesn't even weigh enough to play the WLB position. So we would have to fill that hole with someone else. I hit the button to switch Wilkerson to MLB and it said he will suffer a large experience reduction if we move him. So I am not sure that we want to do that.

Now if we cut Bell we can move Wilkerson over to the strong side, play Peabody in the middle as a stop gap for this season and look for a new starting MLB in the offseason. I don't think Peabody will be much worse than Bell.

I think you make a good point that we did very well on defense even with a injury riddled dline, but I can't stop salivating over the idea of having both Wolfe and Ramsey in the middle. Plus by cutting bell we keep our vert strong secondary in tact too.

If you're willing to shell out the money on Wolfe I would like to see us make these moves.

[QuikSand]

Just to see how the numbers work out, here's a possible plan to lock up DT Kent Wolfe:

Cut MLB Lonnie Bell
Move LB Wilkerson to the strong side (the loss isn't awful)
Sign DT Wolfe for 4yrs, $72.5m ($14m this year)

And therefore, at that point we would be sitting at 45 players, and $500,000 under the salary cap. We'd need to do a good deal more cutting just to fill up our roster with URFAs.

Just FYI... we need more pieces to this puzzle if we're going to make it work. Wolfe costs a ton of money, and there's relatively little wiggle room in his contract demands.

[Bee]

Something we might want to look at before signing Wolfe is how it will affect us next year. Don't we have a couple free agents coming up who are fan favorites?

I'm just thinking that we might sign Wolfe this season and then next year have to cut him with a huge salary cap hit just to make the minimum offers to our fan favorites.

*I haven't looked at this at all, just something that we should look at IMO*

[primelord]

Free Agents After This Season:

RB Duane Crawford - Idolized
TE Lamont Dresow - Fan Favorite
FL Wayne Hill - Fan Favorite
SS Donnie Bridgeman - Fan Favorite
FB Ethan Brock
TE Marc Loftis
RT Marshall Cunningham
P Damon Metz
LDE C.J. Davison
RDT Marshall Castillo
WLB Donnell Wilkerson
LCB Rob Battle
RCB Korey Godfrey
FS Walter Wetherbee

So we have 4 guys that it looks like we will have to offer contracts to. Although we can renegotiate with Donnie Bridgeman now if we want to. He fits our "classy veteran" status.

[Bee]

I'm guessing that Crawford and Hill will want big bucks next year. Those are generally positions that want lots of money.

[primelord]

What are we going to do with our RB's next season? I don't think we can keep both Crawford and The Ox. Should we consider trading one of them this season? I am guessing if we still have The Ox on the roster we don't have to offer Crawford a deal.

Of course if we trade Crawford or The Ox we don't have any depth then either.

[Bee]

I think Crawford is more popular than the Ox so I think we still have to make him an offer (unless the popularity changes during the season and the Ox passes him).

My guess is we will trade the Ox next season and pick up a backup in the draft (I don't think we'll be able to trade Crawford because of his fan popularity being greater than the Ox). I think Wade really likes the Ox and didn't want to trade him this season unless it was necessary.

[Anrhydeddu]

Sign DT Wolfe for 4yrs, $72.5m ($14m this year)

How did you come up with this? I thought he was asking for $93.6/5yrs?

[Bee]

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
How did you come up with this? I thought he was asking for $93.6/5yrs?

I think that was at the beginning of free agency and his demands have come down since then (although no other teams have offered him that kinda money ;)).

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
How did you come up with this? I thought he was asking for $93.6/5yrs?

Under our rules, we have two options:

-offer him exactly what he seeks; or

-offer him a deal with a bonus at least as big as the highest year salary

My shortened offer to Wolfe (which was very tough to work out) was of the latter persuasion.

[QuikSand]

Practically speaking, if we were going to re-sign Wolfe, I think the only reasonable way to do it would be as follows:

-Cut MLB Lonnie Bell to save $9m
-Trade/cut either CB Armstrong or RB Oksenberg to save more money
-Re-sign OLB Gerald John to start at SLB
-Move LB Wilkerson to MLB (a bigger hit than moving to SLB)

That would leave us in fair shape to fill in the rest of the roster with scrubs. We'd be weakened significantly in the secondary (assuming it's Armstrong we released), but would have a torrential group up front on defense.

Short of cutting one of those big two salaries, I don't see any other way to afford Wolfe.

[Anrhydeddu]

If it's not too much trouble, can you itemized by year what his exact demands were and then the details of the latter persuasion? Thanks.

[QuikSand]

And thus, DT Kent Wolfe presents us with one of these crossroad issues.

Were I playing this game myself, there's no way in hell I'd sign DT Kent Wolfe like this. His demands are totaly unreasonable, and it woudl kill me for a long time - I'll be able to find somebody else with that money... no-brainer.

However, were I actually running a real football team, a season is a much, much longer time - and of much more consequence. Going without a player who was a key to a recent title would be very tough to do- in all seriousness, I think I'd be saying "do whatever it takes" to get him back. A year or two is a pretty long time in real life... unlike in this sim (even as we move fairly slowly through).


So, which way are we going to go?

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
If it's not too much trouble, can you itemized by year what his exact demands were and then the details of the latter persuasion? Thanks.

Actually, I cannot - I put it together in the game, but for obvious reasons did not save it. I'm pretty certain that the bonus amount was $18m, as was the final year's salary. So it probably read something like this:

$9.5
$12
$15
$18
+$18 bonus
=$72.5 million

Actually, in retrospect, I think that might be accurate.


Here is what he is asking for at this point:

$9.5
$11.87
$14.82
$17.76
$20.91
+$18.82 bonus
=$93.68 million

[primelord]

Well my vote is to sign him. Despite our success on defense last year I still believe the DLine is the key to our success. Personally I would lean towards trading The Ox. I think Crawford has been productive for us and if we are going to trade The Ox after the season anyway why not do it now when it allows us to sign Wolfe?

Of course I am very biased in this decision. I think we can get by without Armstrong too. It's also likely we may be able to get a little better deal for Armstrong in a trade since CB's tend to be valued higher in FOF. But I think either way we should try and sign Wolfe.

[Bee]

Trading the Ox to sign Wolfe seems like robbing Peter to pay Paul to me. I think it goes back to what QS was saying about approaching this like a normal game or approaching it like real life. In a normal game, I'd have traded the Ox a while ago because of his salary. IRL, I can't imagine a team trading one of the best RBs in football still in his prime to free up cap space to sign their DT.

I'm more inclined to let Wolfe go. I'd rather keep him, but with those salary demands I could see a real NFL team with a tight salary cap not being able to keep him either. Thinking back now, maybe we should have franchised him?

[primelord]

Franchising him would have only made about 1 million dollars difference in this season.

Bee,

I agree with what you are saying to a point, but only one of our RB's can be on the field at any given time where as both our star DT's are on the field at the same time. Thats why I was thinking it makes more sense to have your money in Wolfe instead of Oksenberg.

I'll say this I think we will probably be fine without Wolfe. We can play Castillo in running situations and Hammond on passing downs. I agree with Quik in that had we thought we might do this we could have maybe taken a CB early and it would have been easier to trade Armstrong.

Have we looked into renegotiating Bridgemans deal? Will that save us any money? I am still in favor of signing Wolfe even if we don;t trade The Ox by trading Armstrong. I think Godfrey is a major downgrade from Armstrong, but still capable of starting in our system. However if either him or Boyd go down we are in serious trouble in the secondary. Still if we can get through the season with Godfrey, assuming we got a 1st round pick for Armstrong, I think we can find a stud to replace Armstrong in next years draft.

[QuikSand]

So, primelord, as DC - I'm inclined to make this your call. The plan as laid out above makes sense to you?

-Cut MLB Lonnie Bell to save $9m
-Trade/cut CB Armstrong to save more money
-Re-sign OLB Gerald John to start at SLB
-Move LB Wilkerson to MLB (a bigger hit than moving to SLB)

With CB Armstrong, we'd ask for a first rounder from whoever is atop the "interested" list, and if we don't get it, we just cut him. That's the rule, correct?

[Bee]

Bridgeman wants $25million over 3 years. Renegotiating with him will increase his cap hit by around $2 million this year.

You're right about the franchising of Wolfe, wouldn't have made sense.

Trading Armstrong would be a major blow to our secondary IMO. I don't see anyone who can take his place. We look a lot more solid at DT than at CB.

If we trade the Ox, we should probably consider resigning Keith Baker as a backup to Crawford. That would give us some insurance there. But I don't think we'd have the cap room to make that happen without even more trades.

My opinion is we should resign Gerald John at SLB and let Wolfe go, but I'm not the defensive coach so I think primelord and QS should make the call.

Edit: I really need to type faster. ;)

[Bee]

I really like URFA RB Jack McAfee. He could prove to be a nice pickup.

[Bee]

Originally posted by QuikSand
So, primelord, as DC - I'm inclined to make this your call. The plan as laid out above makes sense to you?

-Cut MLB Lonnie Bell to save $9m
-Trade/cut CB Armstrong to save more money
-Re-sign OLB Gerald John to start at SLB
-Move LB Wilkerson to MLB (a bigger hit than moving to SLB)

With CB Armstrong, we'd ask for a first rounder from whoever is atop the "interested" list, and if we don't get it, we just cut him. That's the rule, correct?

Can we cut Bell?
He's our only fan favorite at MLB.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Bee
Can we cut Bell?
He's our only fan favorite at MLB.

Good catch, Bee... I keep forgetting to look at the popularity ratings. That seems to slam the door shut, to me - if we cannot cut MLB Bell, then our hands are practically tied here. The only way we could go after Kent Wolfe would be to trade/cut both Oksenberg and Armstrong, gutting two significant portions of the team. I have to think that's going too far, just so we can overpay this one guy.

[QuikSand]

This "resign popular players" rule is a bitch, eh?

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by QuikSand
This "resign popular players" rule is a bitch, eh?


yup- I am just waiting to see how much money Crawford is going to be asking for after next season....also I think it would just be to hard to sign Wolfe, he is a very good player...and it would be nice to have him, but i just can't see us cutting a bunch of players for only one.

[QuikSand]

Okay... I have not saved teh game yet, but I have filled the roster up to 59 players, re-signing two of our really cheap RFAs and filling in the rest with URFAs. At this point, we have $2,200,000 in cap room... not quite enough to re-sign LB Gerald John. With a little finessing, we could re-sign someone like QB John Barker (who could then be traded next year, I suspect) or perhaps DE Gabe Blow.

Any thoughts? Are we close enough for me to go ahead, make these moves, and move onward?

[wade moore]

Boy, I missed some active conversation.. I'll say my opinion on what we should do, but first..

WOW.. this is EXACTLY what we wanted, isn't it? If you go back and read this dialogue from today, it is just so extremely what I was going for... we have a DC who really wants his guy, butting heads with a GM who has a different vision along with an offensive representative chiming in to save the star RB.. Those personalities combined with our house rules have made it so it has taken an entire day to discuss ONE guy, and we still haven't decided to sign him or not to sign him... not to sound all cheesy, but I got this great rush reading through that.. I think this Group Think has far surpassed the last one (no offense to those involved) in my enjoyment factor (of course, i just ran the files last time)...

Anyway... Yes, I would really like to keep the Ox. As well as Crawford performed, I think you all know by now that ypc is very important to me as it seems to be the best indicator of how much damage they are going to do.. Crawford didn't even outperform Baker in YPC (3.7 vs. 4.0) and is a mere shadow of The Ox (3.7 vs 4.6). That is almost an entire yard more per carry. The Ox had 277 carries last year. Over the same carries, Crawford would have had (theoretically) 1,025 yards instead of 1,290 as The Ox did. That may not seem like much, but it adds up. In addition, if we trade The Ox, Crawford has diddly behind him, atleast in the way of a proven backup. The decision that will have to be made (probably to trade the ox) will be a quite painful one for me (seems like on the lines of letting Wolfe go for Prime ;)) and if I can avoid it, I will do what I can -- but it does not seem likely. If we are going for a championship, I think that The Ox is just so much more crucial of a part of the puzzle. Over his career, you can see that the games where The Ox wasn't there, the team wasn't there for the most part. If he has to be traded, I will take my licks, but to me he is a far superior back to Crawford which is the pivotal position in this offense. Without a dominant back, we don't have an offense. In all honesty, I'm hoping among hopes that The Ox becomes idolized.


Just a note, The Ox is a classy veteran.. not that it matters that much ;)

Anyway.. I've said my piece... as stated in the past, I'd rather get rid of Pritchett than the Ox, but he doesn't seem to be expensive enough to help us in that area..

[wade moore]

I definatley like the idea of signing Barker, but it seems to be merely a move to use for trade bait (not necessarily a bad thing)... Blow would seem like the smarter move with the DLine injuries last year, but with that luck QB would be plagued with injuries this year ;)

[Bee]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Okay... I have not saved teh game yet, but I have filled the roster up to 59 players, re-signing two of our really cheap RFAs and filling in the rest with URFAs. At this point, we have $2,200,000 in cap room... not quite enough to re-sign LB Gerald John. With a little finessing, we could re-sign someone like QB John Barker (who could then be traded next year, I suspect) or perhaps DE Gabe Blow.

Any thoughts? Are we close enough for me to go ahead, make these moves, and move onward?

We'll need to do something about a starting SLB if we don't resign John. Any suggestions?

[cthomer5000]

I don't chime in too often, so I'm not sure what my opinion is worth. (Also it seems irrelevant at this point)

I just don't see how it would make sense to sacrifice depth at RB (trading the Ox) and DB (cutting Armstrong) to keep 1 guy who will give us cap headaches for years to come.

Simply put I don't think it's worth hurting 2 units to strengthen 1. Also, I think last year's performance showed the D-Line might not be as important as we think.

[QuikSand]

I think the default would be to slide Wilkerson to the strong side, and let our other two WLBs battle it out fo the weak side job.

[Bee]

Originally posted by QuikSand
I think the default would be to slide Wilkerson to the strong side, and let our other two WLBs battle it out fo the weak side job.

Ok. Not very attractive, but looks like the only option we really have. I don't see anywhere we could cut to get Johns back. :(

[Bee]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I don't chime in too often, so I'm not sure what my opinion is worth. (Also it seems irrelevant at this point)

I just don't see how it would make sense to sacrifice depth at RB (trading the Ox) and DB (cutting Armstrong) to keep 1 guy who will give us cap headaches for years to come.

Simply put I don't think it's worth hurting 2 units to strengthen 1. Also, I think last year's performance showed the D-Line might not be as important as we think.

That was my feelings too. I really liked Wolfe though and will miss him. He was quite a steal in the draft for us.

[wade moore]

BTW.. anyone else notice how much Cunningham and Kramer have really filled in their red bars? Just a side note that I noticed while looking through the roster..Same with McAlister and Blaine..

[Bee]

Originally posted by wade moore
BTW.. anyone else notice how much Cunningham and Kramer have really filled in their red bars? Just a side note that I noticed while looking through the roster..Same with McAlister and Blaine..

Yep playing time really makes a big difference. I think that was a big factor for DT Wolfe too. When you can get them on the field early in their careers they really grow fast, but the negative is they want big bucks as soon as their contracts are up.

[wade moore]

Originally posted by Bee
Yep playing time really makes a big difference. I think that was a big factor for DT Wolfe too. When you can get them on the field early in their careers they really grow fast, but the negative is they want big bucks as soon as their contracts are up.

This makes me very torn about Coghill.. I don't want him to miss his opportunity to grow, but I just can't see not starting Pritchett..

While we have activity.. is there anyone that thinks Cog should start over the old man?

[Bee]

Originally posted by wade moore
Boy, I missed some active conversation.. I'll say my opinion on what we should do, but first..

WOW.. this is EXACTLY what we wanted, isn't it? If you go back and read this dialogue from today, it is just so extremely what I was going for... we have a DC who really wants his guy, butting heads with a GM who has a different vision along with an offensive representative chiming in to save the star RB.. Those personalities combined with our house rules have made it so it has taken an entire day to discuss ONE guy, and we still haven't decided to sign him or not to sign him... not to sound all cheesy, but I got this great rush reading through that.. I think this Group Think has far surpassed the last one (no offense to those involved) in my enjoyment factor (of course, i just ran the files last time)...



It's definitely a lot of fun. I wasn't involved in the last one, but it's fun having different people looking out for their own interests while trying to build the entire team. It would be nice if a few of the other coaches would get more involved, but I know it can be difficult because of work and everything.

I think next offseason may even be more interesting with 4 "fan favorites" out of contract and a few other starters as well that will be finishing up their contracts.

[Bee]

Originally posted by wade moore
This makes me very torn about Coghill.. I don't want him to miss his opportunity to grow, but I just can't see not starting Pritchett..

While we have activity.. is there anyone that thinks Cog should start over the old man?

I would start Pritchett because he gives us the best chance to win this season IMO. After this season, we're going to have quite a few issues to deal with. This might be our last chance for a couple seasons to make a big push for the Championship. I look for Pritchett to retire after this season and Coghill can take over what's left of our team then. ;)

[wade moore]

Originally posted by Bee
It's definitely a lot of fun. I wasn't involved in the last one, but it's fun having different people looking out for their own interests while trying to build the entire team. It would be nice if a few of the other coaches would get more involved, but I know it can be difficult because of work and everything.

I think next offseason may even be more interesting with 4 "fan favorites" out of contract and a few other starters as well that will be finishing up their contracts.


I agree on the other coaches.. I wonder, again, if we need to solicit for other participants? Or perhaps it is just too feverish of a pace? We had a lot of interested parties at first, but admittedly many of them were not people who have been around awhile and probably just didn't have the dedication to go at our speed..

now that something is established and working, maybe some other vets would be interested in entering the mix?

[Bee]

I think anyone who wants to join in is more than welcome. Even if someone doesn't have the time to dedicate to the dynasty as a "full-time" participant, they can still jump in and make comments, ask questions or make suggestions.

[QuikSand]

Maybe it woudl be a good time for someone with web space to post a single file that people could use to get completely up to date... that might be the easiest way to get some people involved. (A file including everything in your universe folder except box scores and such)

[primelord]

Allright I have shed my tear over having to give up Wolfe and I am ready to move on without him. :) Lets hope he doesn't sign with someone in our division. :)

Quik,

I am comfortable with you moving on from where we are at. We can slide Wilkerson over to SLB and then go into training camp. I don't know if it matters or not but maybe we should make sure we move him before trainign camp just in case a full training camp at the new position helps him gain some of the red bars back.

I will echo everyone elses thoughts that it was fun discussing our options. I don't think Bell gives us much over Peabody so had we gone forward with the plan I don't think we were really weakining two areas to strengthen one. I think we would have weakend the secondary to strengthen the line. The argument can be made though that Castillo/Hammond are a better replacement for Wolfe than Godfrey is for Armstrong. So I am happy with the defense and think we are going to have a good season.

Do we want to try and resign Bridgeman now? I know his cap number would raise with what he is asking for, but since his signing bonus is higher than any of the years salaries he is asking for I think our house rules give us some room to play with that number.

[primelord]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Maybe it woudl be a good time for someone with web space to post a single file that people could use to get completely up to date... that might be the easiest way to get some people involved. (A file including everything in your universe folder except box scores and such)

I will try and get that together this evening.

[Bee]

Good question about Bridgeman.

I would guess it would be better to wait until his contract was up and offer him what he wanted in free agency. Considering his age, his request might drop slightly with another year of experience added in. Also, he might retire. No sense paying him extra money for that. ;)

[QuikSand]

Okay, I ahve gone ahead, filled in the roster, and gone through a vanilla trainng camp. I had to cut our punter in order to re-sign our third-string QB... who is a pretty solid player himself. I anticipate a potential trade next season.

Anyway - here's the first file update...

[QuikSand]

Second file

[QuikSand]

First thing I notice about the rookie class: DT Howard Hammond is already improving. I'm telling you - he'll be good.

Uhhhh... second thing. Check out WR Perea. Yowza!

LB Clay Harden... uh, he's going to be pretty good, too. He's already better than he started out - he probably ought to start this year, he's going to get better in a hurry.

Nobody else blows me away, but this might not have been a half-bad draft after all, considering... (perhaps a testament to the "insider drafting" technique?)

[primelord]

Quik,

Or don't move Wilkerson before you run the training camp. Thats cool too. ;)

[Bee]

To whomever is running the preseason.

Can we split time between Marshall Cunningham and Emmanual Johnston at RT? They both look about the same quality and I'd like to see if one or the other stands out on the field.

Thanks!

[primelord]

Yes it looks like you made a good call on Hammond. He kind of has that Kent Wolfe look to him. Harden does look very good too. Nice job boss. :)

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by primelord
Quik,

Or don't move Wilkerson before you run the training camp. Thats cool too.

Rats! I was sure I had done so already...

Alas. Probaby doesn't matter too much. Mea culpa. Does Clay Harden make up for it?

[primelord]

On a side note Kent Wolfe signed a 1 year deal with Pensecola (of course a team in our division.) So we will get to face Mr. Wolfe twice this season. Who knows since he will probably be a free agent again after the season maybe we can find a way to bring him back to that time.

Oh also he had yet another bump up in ratings. I miss him already :( ;)

[primelord]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Rats! I was sure I had done so already...

Alas. Probaby doesn't matter too much. Mea culpa. Does Clay Harden make up for it?

He does. :) Like you said looking at the guys we got now it doesn't look like a bad draft at all. Especially when you consider we didn't have a first round pick. Perea looks like a star. That was an excellent pick.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Maybe it woudl be a good time for someone with web space to post a single file that people could use to get completely up to date... that might be the easiest way to get some people involved. (A file including everything in your universe folder except box scores and such)

this would be very helpful. I missed some files at some point and I don't currenlty have a functiong game file

[wade moore]

Ok prime, here are my preseason settings... If you run the games, after the second game, swap the RT and C starter and backup...

I did not make any cuts, but I believe most of our excess is on defense.. if we need to cut, we can cut Escobedo and whatever lineman Bee would recommend ;)... I'm figuring either Van DeWedge or Shephard...

I'd rather we wait before running the regular season until I can take a look at what happened...

[wade moore]

File 1..

[wade moore]

File 2..

[Bee]

That was a very entertaining offseason. Now we'll see if our work has paid off. :D

[QuikSand]

As we go toward the preseason, here are a couple reminders (one my fault that it remains on the list):

-we want to move WLB Wilkerson over to SLB, where he should be our starter this season

-we can place LT Woolridge onto the IR for the season, meaning we can keep one additional young player on our reserve squad

-we have 12 players at DL - partially because there is concern about that position, and partially because there were just a lot of semi-intriguing URFA players there... let's try to use preseason to sort out who might be worth keeping around as our 5th, 6th, 7th guys there... we know we'll have to cut several of these guys

[Bee]

While we wait to move on, I thought I'd pull up our draft list from 1990 just to take a look at how we did. They say you shouldn't judge a player until 3 years after they were drafted.


Rnd 1 - Kenny McAlister, WR, Florida
Rnd 2 - Duane Crawford, RB, Montana State
Rnd 2 - Gabe Blow, DE, Alabama
Rnd 2 - Alan Martinez, OLB, Oregon State
Rnd 3 - Wayne Hill, WR, Pittsburgh
Rnd 4 - Kent Wolfe, DT, Miami, Florida
Rnd 6 - Keith Baker, RB, Fresno State
Rnd 7 - Isaac Terry, C, Georgia Southern

URFAs:

P Damon Metz
K Robert Clavell
K Terrell Bridges
TE Norm Lane
RB Tom Ferriera (switched to FB)
FB Nathan Stone
TE Billy Hutchins
MLB Robbie Terrell
RB Billy Joe Dawkins
FB Karl Monahan


Edit:

My general evaluation:

I don't have the game here, but I don't think any of the URFAs are still with us. The only name I recognize is Metz and I think he was cut recently.

I don't believe Baker or Wolfe is with us anymore either (I think Blow still is?).

The first rounder was a decent pick, but kind of ho-hum. All 3 second round picks IMO were slight reaches. They all are decent players, but nothing special. Wayne Hill was a decent pickup for the 3rd round, no complaints. Wolfe was the steal of the draft, but he's no longer with us so he's benefiting someone else now. Baker was a good pick up for the 6th round, but another cap casualty (I'd be interested to see if he was picked up by another team). Isaac Terry was a steal in the 7th.

The only real "star" we got out of this draft (Wolfe), no longer plays on the team. We did get a few starters though who can contribute. Overall I'd give us a B+ for the draft.

[Anrhydeddu]

Originally posted by Bee
That was a very entertaining offseason. Now we'll see if our work has paid off. :D

I agree, as a casual bystander.

[primelord]

Allright I am about ready to run the pre season games. As Quik mentioned we have a lot of guys at Dline to evaluate. Davison, Castillo, Ramsey, and Finley will all sit out the pre season to let the other guys get plenty of opportunities to show what they can do.

At LB I will be interested to see how Harden and Peabody do. Our LB corps is getting old very quickly and since it looks like we will have some cap issues this offseason we really need them to show they can contribute.

At DB the only position really up for grabs is the Dime Back slot.

[primelord]

Exhibition Week 1

Box Score: Texarkana at Little Rock
Little Rock, TX.

Exhibition Week 2, 1993

Attendance: 57,900 (69,500).


Weather: 68 degrees, fair.

2Q: 10:48 TXA - Andy Zielinski 13 run.
2Q: 10:48 TXA - A.J. Amis extra point.
2Q: 05:33 LTR - Shaun Blaine 12 pass from Otis Coghill.
2Q: 05:33 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
2Q: 01:55 TXA - A.J. Amis 29 field goal.
2Q: 01:25 LTR - Jack McAfee 1 run.
2Q: 01:25 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
2Q: 00:10 TXA - A.J. Amis 26 field goal.
3Q: 11:43 LTR - Brandon Peabody 16 interception return.
3Q: 11:43 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
3Q: 08:32 LTR - Rod Covington 31 field goal.
4Q: 11:36 TXA - Leroy Delcorio 11 pass from Hugh Mireles.
4Q: 11:36 TXA - Hugh Mireles pass for conversion failed.
4Q: 10:51 LTR - Lamont Dresow 60 pass from John Barker.
4Q: 10:51 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
4Q: 00:00 TXA - Winston Lavery 1 pass from Hugh Mireles.

Game MVP: LTR 93 Brandon Peabody

Texarkana 0 13 0 12 - 25
Little Rock 0 14 10 7 - 31

Team Statistics TXA LTR

First Downs 24 15

Total Rushes 36 24
Rushing Yards 182 65
Yards Per Carry 5.0 2.7
Pass Attempts 39 23
Completions 29 17
Passing Yards 323 251
Yards Per Attempt 8.2 10.9
Sacked 3 1
Yards Lost 21 5
Interceptions 2 0
Fumbles/Lost 1/0 1/1

Total Plays 75 47
Total Yards 505 316
Yards Per Play 6.7 6.7

3rd Down Plays 6/17 3/12

Avg. YTG on 3rd 9.7 5.4

4th Down Plays 1/1 0/0

Penalties 11 7
Penalty Yards 94 38

Avg. Drive Start OWN 28 OWN 29
Time Of Possession 38:55 21:05

Texarkana Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
42 Lavery 17 43 2.5 9 0
24 Brown 9 71 7.8 35 0
35 Zielinski 6 49 8.1 19 1
19 Deason 2 10 5.0 6 0
14 Mireles 2 9 4.5 10 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
14 Mireles 24 17 222 9.2 50 2 1 2
19 Deason 15 12 101 6.7 24 0 1 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
85 Delcorio 8 120 15.0 17 36 1
86 Fields 5 94 18.8 2 50 0
41 Grier 5 26 5.2 11 9 0
87 Duncan 3 33 11.0 10 12 0
42 Lavery 2 9 4.5 9 8 1
35 Zielinski 2 18 9.0 0 20 0
24 Brown 2 6 3.0 4 5 0
81 Simmons 1 14 14.0 9 14 0
37 Martinez 1 3 3.0 0 3 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
87 Duncan 1 2 2.0 0
80 Jacobs 1 6 6.0 0
86 Fields 1 5 5.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
80 Jacobs 1 18 18.0 0
86 Fields 1 26 26.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Ingram 7 284 40.5 59 4

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
8 Amis 2 2 29 1 1

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
27 Norris 5 2 0.0 0 0 0
91 Goolsby 4 2 1.0 0 0 0
75 Cole 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
52 Hampton 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
39 Westbrook 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
47 Bedford 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
76 Fulcher 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
49 Sullenger 2 3 0.0 0 0 0
97 Ross 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
93 Francis 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
90 McCormick 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
38 Hays 1 2 0.0 0 0 0
77 McDonald 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
57 Sikes 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
87 Duncan 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
34 Stelick 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
58 Spencer 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
63 McElroy 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
14 Mireles 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
35 Zielinski 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
70 Woodard 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
99 Hayes 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
48 Munn 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
63 McElroy 0 0 0 0 1 1
74 Conway 0 0 0 0 3 1
77 McDonald 0 0 0 0 3 0
66 Luther 0 0 0 0 1 1
87 Duncan 0 0 1 0 0 0
50 Roush 0 0 0 0 1 0
68 Arnold 0 0 0 0 1 0
27 Norris 0 1 0 0 0 0
71 Gardner 0 0 0 0 1 0
14 Mireles 1 0 0 0 0 0
56 Francis 0 0 0 0 1 0
70 Woodard 0 0 1 0 0 0

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
35 Crawford 11 57 5.1 20 0
24 McAfee 10 12 1.2 3 1
25 Brock 2 -1 -0.5 4 0
45 Lang 1 -3 -3.0 -3 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
5 Coghill 16 13 180 11.2 48 1 0 0
6 Barker 7 4 71 10.1 60 1 0 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
86 Blaine 5 88 17.6 5 48 1
88 Dresow 4 83 20.7 70 60 1
25 Brock 3 15 5.0 7 10 0
35 Crawford 1 11 11.0 0 11 0
85 McAlister 1 24 24.0 5 24 0
24 McAfee 1 3 3.0 1 3 0
45 Lang 1 3 3.0 5 3 0
83 Perea 1 24 24.0 1 24 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
19 Hill 1 5 5.0 0
46 Brooks 1 4 4.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
83 Perea 3 94 31.3 0
19 Hill 1 18 18.0 0
29 Crawford 1 28 28.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
14 Devine 7 302 43.1 47 3

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
10 Covington 1 1 31 4 4

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
93 Peabody 13 1 0.0 1 16 1
52 Harden 9 1 0.0 0 0 0
51 Martinez 7 2 1.0 0 0 0
39 Geffen 7 3 0.0 0 0 0
99 Hammond 4 2 1.0 0 0 0
29 Crawford 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
53 Barber 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
97 Greer 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
46 Brooks 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
43 Godfrey 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
66 Hill 2 3 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 2 0 0.0 1 0 0
28 Sheff 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
57 Bell 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
82 Loftis 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
75 Zessin 1 0 1.0 0 0 0
24 McAfee 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
58 Shepard 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
14 Devine 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
90 Nelson 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
67 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 2 1
74 Gaines 0 0 0 0 1 0
65 Terry 0 0 0 0 1 0
25 Brock 1 0 0 0 0 0
64 Cunningham 0 0 0 0 1 0
52 Harden 0 1 0 0 0 0

Texarkana Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 4:31 OWN 20 8 31 Punt
1 7:22 2:37 OWN 29 5 13 Punt
1 3:38 2:12 OWN 49 3 0 Punt
2 14:51 4:03 OWN 46 8 54 Touchdown
2 5:33 3:38 OWN 40 5 48 Field Goal
2 1:25 1:15 OWN 30 5 61 Field Goal
3 11:52 0:09 OWN 11 1 0 Interception
3 11:43 2:05 OWN 20 3 7 Punt
3 8:32 1:49 OWN 20 3 2 Punt
3 5:37 2:06 OPP 32 5 25 Interception
3 1:51 5:15 OWN 32 10 68 Touchdown
4 10:51 4:48 OWN 6 7 20 Punt
4 4:34 1:36 OWN 9 5 34 Punt
4 2:08 2:08 OWN 18 11 82 Touchdown

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 10:29 3:07 OWN 20 6 16 Punt
1 4:45 1:07 OWN 5 3 7 Punt
1 1:26 1:35 OWN 5 3 7 Punt
2 10:48 5:15 OWN 31 10 69 Touchdown
2 1:55 0:30 OWN 27 3 73 Touchdown
2 0:10 0:10 OWN 38 1 11 Half
3 15:00 3:08 OWN 28 5 15 Punt
3 9:38 1:06 OPP 6 3 -8 Field Goal
3 6:43 1:06 OWN 24 3 8 Fumble
3 3:31 1:40 OWN 20 3 7 Punt
4 11:36 0:45 OWN 40 1 60 Touchdown
4 6:03 1:29 OWN 44 3 6 Punt
4 2:58 0:50 OWN 9 4 28 Punt

Texarkana Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
6 3 2

Little Rock Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
3 2 1

Texarkana Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 14 64 4.5
Middle 15 76 5.0
Right 7 42 6.0
None 0 0 0.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
77 McDonald 3 11 23
74 Conway 3 5 25
50 Roush 1 6 27
71 Gardner 1 2 25
63 McElroy 1 1 12
68 Arnold 1 1 9
66 Luther 1 1 7
56 Francis 1 1 4
69 Jacquet 0 2 20
41 Grier 0 1 19
81 Simmons 0 1 12
37 Martinez 0 0 10
83 Anthony 0 0 9
79 Givens 0 0 8

Texarkana Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 7 7 19 2.7
Short (0-8 Yds) 13 11 80 6.1
Medium (9-18 Yds) 10 6 72 7.2
Long (19+ Yds) 8 5 152 19.0

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
14 Mireles 24 17 0 1 2 0 2 1
19 Deason 15 12 1 0 0 1 0 1

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
86 Fields 10 5 0 94 30
85 Delcorio 9 8 1 120 31
41 Grier 5 5 0 26 17
87 Duncan 4 3 0 33 26
42 Lavery 3 2 0 9 12
35 Zielinski 2 2 0 18 11
24 Brown 2 2 0 6 16
37 Martinez 2 1 0 3 16
81 Simmons 1 1 0 14 15

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
71 Gardner 0 32
74 Conway 1 29
50 Roush 0 29
69 Jacquet 0 25
77 McDonald 0 24
41 Grier 0 17
37 Martinez 0 16
63 McElroy 1 14
68 Arnold 0 13
66 Luther 1 12
79 Givens 0 9
56 Francis 0 8

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
91 Goolsby 1.0 0 1 20
76 Fulcher 0.0 0 1 19
38 Hays 0.0 0 0 21
27 Norris 0.0 0 0 20
90 McCormick 0.0 0 0 19
49 Sullenger 0.0 0 0 19
57 Sikes 0.0 0 0 18
75 Cole 0.0 0 0 15
34 Stelick 0.0 0 0 14
28 Amaya 0.0 0 0 14
70 Woodard 0.0 0 0 14
97 Ross 0.0 0 0 12
39 Westbrook 0.0 0 0 12
93 Francis 0.0 0 0 10
58 Spencer 0.0 0 0 8
52 Hampton 0.0 0 0 6
99 Hayes 0.0 0 0 5
47 Bedford 0.0 0 0 4
48 Munn 0.0 0 0 3

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
27 Norris 4 0 0 20
39 Westbrook 3 0 0 12
34 Stelick 2 0 0 14
70 Woodard 2 0 0 14
49 Sullenger 1 2 0 19
38 Hays 1 1 0 21
57 Sikes 1 0 0 18
93 Francis 1 0 0 10
52 Hampton 1 0 0 6
48 Munn 1 0 0 3
47 Bedford 0 1 0 4
91 Goolsby 0 0 0 20
76 Fulcher 0 0 0 19
90 McCormick 0 0 0 19
75 Cole 0 0 0 15
28 Amaya 0 0 0 14
97 Ross 0 0 0 12
58 Spencer 0 0 0 8
99 Hayes 0 0 0 5

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
27 Norris 5 2 19 20
91 Goolsby 4 2 21 20
75 Cole 4 1 19 15
52 Hampton 4 1 10 6
39 Westbrook 4 0 16 12
47 Bedford 3 1 6 4
76 Fulcher 3 0 18 19
49 Sullenger 2 3 19 19
97 Ross 2 2 13 12
93 Francis 2 1 13 10
90 McCormick 2 0 16 19
38 Hays 1 2 15 21
57 Sikes 1 0 17 18
70 Woodard 1 0 13 14
34 Stelick 1 0 12 14
58 Spencer 1 0 7 8
99 Hayes 1 0 9 5
48 Munn 1 0 8 3
28 Amaya 0 0 13 14

Little Rock Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 5 8 1.6
Middle 12 24 2.0
Right 7 33 4.7
None 0 0 0.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
67 Pedersen 2 5 15
74 Gaines 1 5 14
64 Cunningham 1 4 16
65 Terry 1 3 21
58 Shepard 0 2 13
72 Penick 0 2 7
25 Brock 0 1 15
88 Dresow 0 1 10
82 Loftis 0 0 17
27 Anunson 0 1 6
50 Jackson 0 0 14
62 Johnston 0 0 13
69 Van DeWege 0 0 7

Little Rock Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 4 4 18 4.5
Short (0-8 Yds) 9 6 93 10.3
Medium (9-18 Yds) 7 4 44 6.2
Long (19+ Yds) 3 3 96 32.0

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
5 Coghill 16 13 0 0 2 0 1 0
6 Barker 7 4 0 0 2 0 1 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
86 Blaine 5 5 0 88 15
25 Brock 4 3 0 15 15
88 Dresow 4 4 0 83 7
82 Loftis 3 0 0 0 16
83 Perea 2 1 0 24 16
35 Crawford 1 1 0 11 11
85 McAlister 1 1 0 24 10
19 Hill 1 0 0 0 10
24 McAfee 1 1 0 3 6
45 Lang 1 1 0 3 5

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
65 Terry 0 22
64 Cunningham 0 18
74 Gaines 0 16
25 Brock 0 15
67 Pedersen 1 14
50 Jackson 0 14
58 Shepard 0 12
62 Johnston 0 11
72 Penick 0 5
27 Anunson 0 4
69 Van DeWege 0 3

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
51 Martinez 1.0 1 0 26
75 Zessin 1.0 0 1 28
99 Hammond 1.0 0 0 29
97 Greer 0.0 0 1 35
28 Sheff 0.0 0 0 33
38 Battle 0.0 0 0 31
39 Geffen 0.0 0 0 30
29 Crawford 0.0 0 0 28
46 Brooks 0.0 0 0 26
43 Godfrey 0.0 0 0 22
90 Nelson 0.0 0 0 22
66 Hill 0.0 0 0 21
93 Peabody 0.0 0 0 20
33 Wetherbee 0.0 0 0 18
52 Harden 0.0 0 0 18
53 Barber 0.0 0 0 13
68 Farrell 0.0 0 0 11
91 Battle 0.0 0 0 10
57 Bell 0.0 0 0 8

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
39 Geffen 6 0 0 30
93 Peabody 5 0 1 20
52 Harden 5 0 0 18
51 Martinez 3 0 0 26
46 Brooks 2 0 0 26
43 Godfrey 2 0 0 22
53 Barber 2 0 0 13
29 Crawford 1 2 0 28
28 Sheff 1 0 0 33
38 Battle 1 0 0 31
33 Wetherbee 1 0 1 18
97 Greer 0 0 0 35
99 Hammond 0 0 0 29
75 Zessin 0 0 0 28
90 Nelson 0 0 0 22
66 Hill 0 0 0 21
68 Farrell 0 0 0 11
91 Battle 0 0 0 10
57 Bell 0 0 0 8

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
93 Peabody 13 1 21 20
52 Harden 9 1 20 18
39 Geffen 7 3 24 30
51 Martinez 7 2 20 26
99 Hammond 4 2 25 29
97 Greer 3 2 27 35
29 Crawford 3 2 25 28
46 Brooks 3 2 20 26
53 Barber 3 2 14 13
43 Godfrey 3 1 22 22
66 Hill 2 3 25 21
28 Sheff 2 1 25 33
33 Wetherbee 2 0 8 18
57 Bell 2 0 7 8
75 Zessin 1 0 27 28
90 Nelson 1 0 14 22
38 Battle 0 0 17 31
68 Farrell 0 0 5 11
91 Battle 0 0 5 10
92 Ramsey 0 0 1 0

Injuries

LG Calvin Gaines - Probable - 3 weeks
LT Harry Wooldridge - Out - 1994
FB Ethan Brock - Probable - 2 weeks

[primelord]

Week 2

Box Score: Little Rock at Kitty Hawk
Kitty Hawk, NC.

Exhibition Week 3, 1993

Attendance: 53,500 (73,300).


Weather: 80 degrees, fair.

1Q: 06:52 KYH - Karl Stephenson 1 run.
1Q: 06:52 KYH - Ross Miailovich extra point.
2Q: 12:55 KYH - Karl Stephenson 1 run.
2Q: 12:55 KYH - Ross Miailovich extra point.
2Q: 09:10 KYH - Wade Halford 17 interception return.
2Q: 09:10 KYH - Ross Miailovich extra point.
2Q: 03:49 LTR - Kenny McAlister 2 pass from Otis Coghill.
2Q: 03:49 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
3Q: 12:19 LTR - Rod Covington 26 field goal.
3Q: 07:16 KYH - Glenn Owens 2 run.
3Q: 07:16 KYH - Ross Miailovich extra point.
4Q: 13:37 LTR - Rod Covington 30 field goal.
4Q: 05:27 LTR - Rod Covington 51 field goal.
4Q: 00:55 LTR - Shaun Blaine 12 pass from John Barker.
4Q: 00:55 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.

Game MVP: KYH 50 Kendrick Hauck

Little Rock 0 7 3 13 - 23
Kitty Hawk 7 14 7 0 - 28

Team Statistics LTR KYH

First Downs 16 23

Total Rushes 21 39
Rushing Yards 86 157
Yards Per Carry 4.0 4.0
Pass Attempts 37 29
Completions 20 22
Passing Yards 207 212
Yards Per Attempt 5.5 7.3
Sacked 3 1
Yards Lost 19 6
Interceptions 4 1
Fumbles/Lost 1/0 2/2

Total Plays 58 68
Total Yards 293 369
Yards Per Play 5.0 5.4

3rd Down Plays 6/13 4/11

Avg. YTG on 3rd 8.6 6.1

4th Down Plays 0/0 1/1

Penalties 8 4
Penalty Yards 53 21

Avg. Drive Start OWN 41 OWN 25
Time Of Possession 28:14 31:46

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
35 Crawford 14 30 2.1 6 0
24 McAfee 3 51 17.0 28 0
5 Coghill 2 2 1.0 3 0
45 Lang 1 2 2.0 2 0
83 Perea 1 1 1.0 1 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
5 Coghill 30 16 145 4.8 24 1 4 2
6 Barker 7 4 62 8.8 19 1 0 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
35 Crawford 4 28 7.0 6 10 0
85 McAlister 4 45 11.2 3 21 1
86 Blaine 4 50 12.5 0 24 1
83 Perea 4 55 13.7 5 19 0
82 Loftis 2 14 7.0 0 9 0
25 Brock 1 2 2.0 1 2 0
88 Dresow 1 13 13.0 1 13 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
29 Crawford 1 2 2.0 0
46 Brooks 1 5 5.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
83 Perea 4 121 30.2 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
14 Devine 4 157 39.2 52 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
10 Covington 3 3 51 2 2

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
28 Sheff 6 3 0.0 0 0 0
51 Martinez 6 1 0.0 0 0 0
93 Peabody 6 1 0.0 0 0 0
52 Harden 6 0 0.0 1 27 0
75 Zessin 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
29 Crawford 4 4 0.0 0 0 0
46 Brooks 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
39 Geffen 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
99 Hammond 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
90 Nelson 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
53 Barber 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
43 Godfrey 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
97 Greer 1 0 1.0 0 0 0
57 Bell 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
82 Loftis 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
62 Johnston 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
85 McAlister 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
19 Hill 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
88 Dresow 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
38 Battle 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
83 Perea 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
66 Hill 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
64 Cunningham 0 0 0 0 2 1
62 Johnston 0 0 0 0 1 1
67 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 0 1
82 Loftis 0 0 0 0 1 0
50 Jackson 0 0 0 0 1 0
75 Zessin 0 1 0 0 0 0
35 Crawford 1 0 0 0 0 0
65 Terry 0 0 0 0 1 0
51 Martinez 0 1 0 0 0 0
38 Battle 0 0 1 0 0 0
69 Van DeWege 0 0 1 0 0 0
28 Sheff 0 0 1 0 0 0

Kitty Hawk Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
22 Stephenson 14 36 2.5 7 2
27 Owens 10 66 6.6 24 1
40 Glassner 7 30 4.2 9 0
26 Kolsrud 3 10 3.3 5 0
4 Josiah 2 11 5.5 7 0
6 Montgomery 2 1 0.5 2 0
39 Armagost 1 3 3.0 3 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
4 Josiah 23 17 185 8.0 23 0 1 0
6 Montgomery 6 5 27 4.5 18 0 0 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
82 Daniels 6 62 10.3 6 18 0
80 Matunda 4 67 16.7 6 21 0
39 Armagost 3 17 5.6 12 8 0
34 Addy 2 9 4.5 7 7 0
81 Chance 2 36 18.0 10 23 0
22 Stephenson 1 12 12.0 1 12 0
84 Keith 1 7 7.0 0 7 0
27 Owens 1 -1 -1.0 0 -1 0
88 Robbins 1 3 3.0 1 3 0
89 McNeil 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
80 Matunda 2 2 1.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
82 Daniels 2 42 21.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
7 Cerqua 5 182 36.4 47 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
9 Miailovich 0 1 0 4 4

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
23 Patterson 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
24 Reeg 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
94 Tanner 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
25 Everett 3 2 0.0 1 0 0
55 Finch 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
28 Suzuki 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
53 Coccione 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
73 Humphries 2 3 1.0 0 0 0
78 Newman 2 2 0.5 0 0 0
95 Cress 2 0 0.5 0 0 0
21 Lowrey 2 2 0.0 1 0 0
59 Samuels 2 3 0.0 0 0 0
98 Quinn 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
99 Hill 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
92 Ballard 1 0 1.0 0 0 0
42 Carlson 1 0 0.0 1 6 0
93 Ng 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
50 Hauck 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
27 Owens 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
89 McNeil 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
81 Chance 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
63 Whitfield 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
43 Woolley 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
56 Halford 0 0 0.0 1 17 1

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
50 Hauck 0 0 0 0 5 0
79 Samuels 0 0 0 0 3 1
39 Armagost 0 0 0 0 2 0
75 Dishman 0 0 0 0 2 0
66 France 0 0 0 0 2 0
34 Addy 0 0 0 0 1 0
27 Owens 1 0 0 0 0 0
89 McNeil 0 0 0 0 1 0
26 Kolsrud 1 0 0 0 0 0
94 Tanner 0 1 0 0 0 0

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 4:12 OWN 5 6 45 Punt
1 6:52 3:07 OWN 42 6 20 Punt
2 12:55 1:42 OWN 27 3 6 Punt
2 9:20 0:10 OWN 13 1 0 Interception
2 9:10 1:23 OWN 39 2 1 Interception
2 7:34 2:20 50 4 15 Interception
2 5:06 1:17 OPP 1 3 1 Touchdown
2 0:17 0:17 OWN 22 1 -1 Half
3 13:17 0:58 OPP 10 3 1 Field Goal
3 7:16 2:07 OWN 46 5 10 Interception
3 3:48 5:11 OWN 39 10 48 Field Goal
4 10:26 4:59 OWN 14 11 52 Field Goal
4 3:26 0:59 OWN 38 3 -3 Punt
4 1:40 0:45 OPP 39 3 39 Touchdown

Kitty Hawk Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 10:48 3:56 OWN 9 10 91 Touchdown
1 3:45 5:50 OWN 20 15 80 Touchdown
2 11:13 1:53 OWN 41 3 9 Punt
2 7:47 0:13 OWN 48 2 2 Fumble
2 5:14 0:08 OWN 18 1 0 Interception
2 3:49 3:32 OWN 20 10 65 Missed FG
3 15:00 1:43 OWN 4 3 6 Fumble
3 12:19 5:03 OWN 20 10 80 Touchdown
3 5:09 1:21 OWN 19 3 9 Punt
4 13:37 3:11 OWN 29 4 12 Punt
4 5:27 2:01 OWN 24 3 5 Punt
4 2:27 0:47 OWN 15 3 -3 Punt
4 0:55 0:55 OPP 39 2 0 Game

Little Rock Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
4 2 2

Kitty Hawk Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
4 3 0

Little Rock Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 9 15 1.6
Middle 6 13 2.1
Right 5 59 11.8
None 1 -1 -1.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
64 Cunningham 2 3 14
62 Johnston 1 3 10
50 Jackson 1 2 11
82 Loftis 1 2 10
65 Terry 1 1 18
58 Shepard 0 4 15
67 Pedersen 0 2 15
74 Gaines 0 1 11
69 Van DeWege 0 1 5
25 Brock 0 0 10
88 Dresow 0 0 6
27 Anunson 0 0 4
72 Penick 0 0 1

Little Rock Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 2 0 0 0.0
Short (0-8 Yds) 13 9 45 3.4
Medium (9-18 Yds) 16 9 117 7.3
Long (19+ Yds) 6 2 45 7.5

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
5 Coghill 30 16 1 3 2 2 2 4
6 Barker 7 4 1 0 0 0 2 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
86 Blaine 9 4 0 50 29
83 Perea 8 4 1 55 32
35 Crawford 7 4 2 28 23
85 McAlister 5 4 0 45 20
82 Loftis 4 2 0 14 22
25 Brock 2 1 0 2 23
19 Hill 1 0 0 0 11
88 Dresow 1 1 0 13 8

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
74 Gaines 0 29
65 Terry 0 28
50 Jackson 0 27
64 Cunningham 1 24
62 Johnston 1 23
25 Brock 0 23
67 Pedersen 1 20
58 Shepard 0 16
72 Penick 0 10
69 Van DeWege 0 8
27 Anunson 0 4

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
97 Greer 1.0 0 0 26
75 Zessin 0.0 0 1 25
29 Crawford 0.0 0 1 22
28 Sheff 0.0 0 0 27
43 Godfrey 0.0 0 0 24
66 Hill 0.0 0 0 23
99 Hammond 0.0 0 0 22
90 Nelson 0.0 0 1 12
38 Battle 0.0 0 0 20
46 Brooks 0.0 0 0 20
39 Geffen 0.0 0 0 20
53 Barber 0.0 0 0 19
52 Harden 0.0 0 0 15
93 Peabody 0.0 0 0 14
51 Martinez 0.0 0 0 11
33 Wetherbee 0.0 0 0 8
91 Battle 0.0 0 0 4
68 Farrell 0.0 0 0 4
57 Bell 0.0 0 0 3

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
28 Sheff 3 0 0 27
52 Harden 3 0 1 15
29 Crawford 3 0 0 22
43 Godfrey 2 0 0 24
39 Geffen 2 0 0 20
53 Barber 2 0 0 19
93 Peabody 2 0 0 14
75 Zessin 1 0 0 25
38 Battle 1 0 0 20
46 Brooks 1 0 0 20
90 Nelson 1 0 0 12
51 Martinez 1 0 0 11
57 Bell 0 1 0 3
97 Greer 0 0 0 26
66 Hill 0 0 0 23
99 Hammond 0 0 0 22
33 Wetherbee 0 0 0 8
91 Battle 0 0 0 4
68 Farrell 0 0 0 4

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
28 Sheff 6 3 35 27
51 Martinez 6 1 30 11
93 Peabody 6 1 24 14
52 Harden 6 0 27 15
75 Zessin 5 0 34 25
29 Crawford 4 4 24 22
46 Brooks 4 2 30 20
39 Geffen 4 2 29 20
99 Hammond 4 0 34 22
90 Nelson 3 1 19 12
53 Barber 3 0 13 19
43 Godfrey 2 1 26 24
33 Wetherbee 2 1 5 8
97 Greer 1 0 27 26
66 Hill 1 0 23 23
38 Battle 1 0 15 20
57 Bell 1 0 8 3
91 Battle 0 0 11 4
68 Farrell 0 0 4 4

Kitty Hawk Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 10 42 4.2
Middle 26 108 4.1
Right 2 8 4.0
None 1 -1 -1.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
50 Hauck 5 10 31
79 Samuels 3 5 29
75 Dishman 2 6 31
66 France 2 5 30
39 Armagost 2 2 16
34 Addy 1 4 26
89 McNeil 1 1 17
63 Whitfield 0 2 21
57 Easy 0 2 16
88 Robbins 0 0 16
69 Tanner 0 0 13
60 Gilmore 0 0 11
70 Bunting 0 0 8

Kitty Hawk Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 4 3 14 3.5
Short (0-8 Yds) 13 9 40 3.0
Medium (9-18 Yds) 11 10 158 14.3
Long (19+ Yds) 1 0 0 0.0

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
4 Josiah 23 17 0 2 0 0 3 1
6 Montgomery 6 5 0 0 1 0 0 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
82 Daniels 6 6 0 62 20
80 Matunda 4 4 0 67 25
27 Owens 3 1 1 -1 5
39 Armagost 3 3 0 17 16
34 Addy 2 2 0 9 17
22 Stephenson 2 1 0 12 11
84 Keith 2 1 1 7 8
88 Robbins 2 1 0 3 10
89 McNeil 2 1 0 0 10
81 Chance 2 2 0 36 11
26 Kolsrud 1 0 0 0 3

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
50 Hauck 0 28
75 Dishman 0 27
79 Samuels 1 24
66 France 0 22
34 Addy 0 17
39 Armagost 0 16
63 Whitfield 0 15
69 Tanner 0 12
57 Easy 0 7
60 Gilmore 0 7
70 Bunting 0 3

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
73 Humphries 1.0 1 1 30
92 Ballard 1.0 1 0 30
78 Newman 0.5 0 1 24
95 Cress 0.5 0 0 15
24 Reeg 0.0 0 1 28
93 Ng 0.0 0 0 33
21 Lowrey 0.0 0 0 29
98 Quinn 0.0 0 1 16
55 Finch 0.0 0 0 26
25 Everett 0.0 0 0 26
28 Suzuki 0.0 0 0 24
42 Carlson 0.0 0 0 24
23 Patterson 0.0 0 0 23
99 Hill 0.0 0 0 14
32 Webb 0.0 0 0 14
59 Samuels 0.0 0 0 13
53 Coccione 0.0 0 0 12
94 Tanner 0.0 0 0 11
43 Woolley 0.0 0 0 10
56 Halford 0.0 0 0 5

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
24 Reeg 4 0 0 28
25 Everett 3 0 1 26
28 Suzuki 3 0 0 24
21 Lowrey 2 1 1 29
55 Finch 2 0 0 26
23 Patterson 2 0 0 23
53 Coccione 2 0 0 12
93 Ng 1 0 0 33
94 Tanner 1 0 0 11
73 Humphries 0 1 0 30
42 Carlson 0 0 1 24
92 Ballard 0 0 0 30
78 Newman 0 0 0 24
98 Quinn 0 0 0 16
95 Cress 0 0 0 15
56 Halford 0 0 1 5
99 Hill 0 0 0 14
32 Webb 0 0 0 14
59 Samuels 0 0 0 13
43 Woolley 0 0 0 10

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
23 Patterson 5 0 12 23
24 Reeg 4 2 13 28
94 Tanner 4 0 10 11
55 Finch 3 2 13 26
25 Everett 3 2 12 26
28 Suzuki 3 1 12 24
53 Coccione 3 1 8 12
73 Humphries 2 3 16 30
59 Samuels 2 3 9 13
21 Lowrey 2 2 15 29
78 Newman 2 2 13 24
98 Quinn 2 1 13 16
99 Hill 2 0 10 14
95 Cress 2 0 7 15
93 Ng 1 1 17 33
92 Ballard 1 0 14 30
42 Carlson 1 0 15 24
43 Woolley 1 0 3 10
32 Webb 0 0 7 14
56 Halford 0 0 1 5

Injuries

LG Calvin Gaiens - Probable 2 weeks
MLB Lonnie Bell - Probable - Unknown
LT Harry Wooldridge - Out - 1994
FB Ethan Brock - Probable - 5 weeks

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Exhibition Week 3

Box Score: Little Rock at Providence
Providence, NY.

Exhibition Week 4, 1993

Attendance: 56,100 (79,700).


Weather: 77 degrees, fair.

1Q: 10:24 PRV - Randal Rayburn 9 pass from Heath Crute.
1Q: 10:24 PRV - Marcus Talley extra point.
1Q: 06:11 PRV - Norm Briggs 2 run.
1Q: 06:11 PRV - Marcus Talley extra point.
1Q: 02:44 PRV - Clay Fitzgerald 23 run.
1Q: 02:44 PRV - Marcus Talley extra point.
2Q: 13:20 LTR - Rod Covington 33 field goal.
2Q: 05:26 PRV - Clay Fitzgerald 1 run.
2Q: 05:26 PRV - Marcus Talley extra point.
4Q: 11:35 PRV - Marcus Talley 34 field goal.
4Q: 06:48 LTR - Marc Loftis 9 pass from John Barker.
4Q: 06:48 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
4Q: 00:00 LTR - Shaun Blaine 44 pass from John Barker.

Game MVP: PRV 38 Norm Briggs

Little Rock 0 3 0 13 - 16
Providence 21 7 0 3 - 31

Team Statistics LTR PRV

First Downs 21 27

Total Rushes 26 39
Rushing Yards 105 205
Yards Per Carry 4.0 5.2
Pass Attempts 30 27
Completions 23 23
Passing Yards 307 213
Yards Per Attempt 10.2 7.8
Sacked 2 2
Yards Lost 12 8
Interceptions 2 0
Fumbles/Lost 3/3 0/0

Total Plays 56 66
Total Yards 412 418
Yards Per Play 7.3 6.3

3rd Down Plays 5/11 8/14

Avg. YTG on 3rd 7.2 7.4

4th Down Plays 0/0 0/0

Penalties 5 7
Penalty Yards 49 33

Avg. Drive Start OWN 17 OWN 35
Time Of Possession 26:17 33:43

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
35 Crawford 14 40 2.8 9 0
24 McAfee 5 10 2.0 5 0
6 Barker 3 24 8.0 13 0
45 Lang 2 19 9.5 14 0
25 Brock 1 6 6.0 6 0
86 Blaine 1 6 6.0 6 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
6 Barker 24 18 237 9.8 50 2 2 2
5 Coghill 6 5 70 11.6 25 0 0 0

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
86 Blaine 8 115 14.3 14 44 1
82 Loftis 5 57 11.4 9 18 1
88 Dresow 3 33 11.0 7 24 0
25 Brock 2 2 1.0 2 3 0
83 Perea 2 36 18.0 12 25 0
35 Crawford 1 3 3.0 1 3 0
85 McAlister 1 50 50.0 17 50 0
27 Anunson 1 11 11.0 1 11 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
29 Crawford 2 44 22.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
14 Devine 3 123 41.0 53 0

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
10 Covington 1 1 33 1 1

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
99 Hammond 6 2 0.0 0 0 0
46 Brooks 6 1 0.0 0 0 0
28 Sheff 6 0 0.0 0 0 0
51 Martinez 5 1 1.0 0 0 0
52 Harden 5 3 0.0 0 0 0
38 Battle 5 2 0.0 0 0 0
29 Crawford 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
39 Geffen 3 3 0.0 0 0 0
43 Godfrey 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
90 Nelson 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
57 Bell 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
91 Battle 2 0 1.0 0 0 0
93 Peabody 2 4 0.0 0 0 0
83 Perea 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
53 Barber 1 2 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
75 Zessin 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
6 Barker 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
97 Greer 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
45 Lang 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
68 Farrell 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
66 Hill 0 1 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
65 Terry 0 0 0 0 2 1
50 Jackson 0 0 0 0 0 1
74 Gaines 0 0 0 0 2 0
72 Penick 0 0 0 0 2 0
67 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 1 0
35 Crawford 1 0 0 0 0 0
6 Barker 1 0 0 0 0 0
86 Blaine 1 0 0 0 0 0
64 Cunningham 0 0 0 0 1 0

Providence Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
38 Briggs 21 141 6.7 21 1
40 Fitzgerald 9 51 5.6 23 2
47 Joiner 6 12 2.0 6 0
19 Craig 1 -1 -1.0 -1 0
88 Tanner 1 3 3.0 3 0
28 Bullock 1 -1 -1.0 -1 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
19 Craig 14 11 76 5.4 11 0 0 1
14 Crute 13 12 137 10.5 24 1 0 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
88 Tanner 7 88 12.5 22 24 0
38 Briggs 5 20 4.0 9 9 0
87 Elliott 4 36 9.0 6 17 0
84 Hutchison 3 28 9.3 1 12 0
80 Rayburn 2 19 9.5 2 10 1
8 Shields 1 18 18.0 4 18 0
28 Bullock 1 4 4.0 3 4 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
88 Tanner 1 3 3.0 0
83 Hanna 1 3 3.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
47 Joiner 1 11 11.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Johnstone 4 164 41.0 55 3

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
10 Talley 1 3 34 4 4

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
92 Koontz 6 2 0.5 0 0 0
98 Browning 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
90 Scarborough 4 3 1.0 0 0 0
96 Pearson 4 3 0.0 0 0 0
25 Honeycutt 4 1 0.0 1 29 0
46 Vance 4 1 0.0 1 5 0
53 Lovett 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
42 Walters 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
29 Lander 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
71 Lombard 2 2 0.5 0 0 0
72 Givens 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
48 Brizzolara 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
30 Crespo 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
91 Cote 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
79 Whittle 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
57 Mathews 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
27 Crane 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
54 Roberts 0 0 0 0 0 1
64 McIntyre 0 0 0 0 1 1
70 Ribich 0 0 0 0 4 0
75 Neill 0 0 0 0 3 0
56 Gordon 0 0 0 0 3 0
92 Koontz 0 1 1 0 0 0
87 Elliott 0 0 0 0 1 0
84 Hutchison 0 0 0 0 1 0
90 Scarborough 0 0 1 0 0 0
61 Winslett 0 0 0 0 1 0
48 Brizzolara 0 1 0 0 0 0
30 Crespo 0 1 0 0 0 0
28 Bullock 0 0 0 0 1 0
71 Lombard 0 0 1 0 0 0

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 10:24 1:57 OWN 3 3 8 Punt
1 6:11 1:28 OWN 20 4 23 Fumble
1 2:44 4:24 OWN 27 8 57 Field Goal
2 7:28 1:05 OWN 5 3 9 Fumble
2 5:26 2:09 OWN 20 3 -2 Punt
2 1:52 1:27 OWN 4 3 4 Punt
3 15:00 4:31 OWN 13 10 72 Interception
3 7:30 3:21 OWN 20 7 62 Fumble
4 11:35 4:47 OWN 20 11 80 Touchdown
4 2:22 1:15 OWN 3 5 43 Interception
4 0:06 0:06 OPP 44 1 44 Touchdown

Providence Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 4:36 OWN 5 10 95 Touchdown
1 8:27 2:16 OWN 49 5 51 Touchdown
1 4:43 1:59 OPP 43 4 43 Touchdown
2 13:20 5:52 OWN 11 10 45 Punt
2 6:23 0:57 OPP 14 3 14 Touchdown
2 3:17 1:25 OWN 47 3 8 Punt
2 0:25 0:25 OWN 42 3 23 Missed FG
3 10:29 2:59 OWN 33 6 57 Missed FG
3 4:09 7:34 OWN 18 14 65 Field Goal
4 6:48 4:26 OWN 20 9 22 Punt
4 1:07 1:01 OWN 23 3 -8 Punt

Little Rock Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
3 1 1

Providence Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
6 4 1

Little Rock Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 5 22 4.4
Middle 13 60 4.6
Right 8 23 2.8
None 0 0 0.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
65 Terry 2 5 21
74 Gaines 2 4 15
72 Penick 2 3 6
64 Cunningham 1 4 14
67 Pedersen 1 2 14
50 Jackson 0 2 20
25 Brock 0 1 18
62 Johnston 0 1 14
69 Van DeWege 0 1 4
88 Dresow 0 0 10
82 Loftis 0 0 8
58 Shepard 0 0 7
27 Anunson 0 0 6

Little Rock Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 2 2 2 1.0
Short (0-8 Yds) 9 8 45 5.0
Medium (9-18 Yds) 12 10 142 11.8
Long (19+ Yds) 7 3 118 16.8

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
6 Barker 24 18 0 2 1 0 1 2
5 Coghill 6 5 1 0 0 0 0 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
86 Blaine 10 8 0 115 23
82 Loftis 7 5 1 57 18
83 Perea 4 2 1 36 26
88 Dresow 3 3 0 33 8
85 McAlister 2 1 0 50 18
25 Brock 2 2 0 2 14
35 Crawford 1 1 0 3 19
27 Anunson 1 1 0 11 5

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
65 Terry 1 26
50 Jackson 1 24
62 Johnston 0 23
74 Gaines 0 18
67 Pedersen 0 18
64 Cunningham 0 17
25 Brock 0 14
58 Shepard 0 11
69 Van DeWege 0 8
72 Penick 0 5
27 Anunson 0 5

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
91 Battle 1.0 0 1 19
51 Martinez 1.0 0 0 17
66 Hill 0.0 1 0 17
28 Sheff 0.0 0 0 25
68 Farrell 0.0 0 0 22
90 Nelson 0.0 0 0 21
39 Geffen 0.0 0 0 21
46 Brooks 0.0 0 0 19
43 Godfrey 0.0 0 0 18
29 Crawford 0.0 0 0 18
52 Harden 0.0 0 0 18
38 Battle 0.0 0 0 17
93 Peabody 0.0 0 0 16
99 Hammond 0.0 0 0 15
53 Barber 0.0 0 0 12
97 Greer 0.0 0 0 8
75 Zessin 0.0 0 0 6
33 Wetherbee 0.0 0 0 5
57 Bell 0.0 0 0 3

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
28 Sheff 4 1 0 25
46 Brooks 3 0 0 19
38 Battle 3 0 0 17
43 Godfrey 2 0 0 18
29 Crawford 2 0 0 18
68 Farrell 1 0 0 22
39 Geffen 1 0 0 21
52 Harden 1 0 0 18
51 Martinez 1 0 0 17
93 Peabody 1 0 0 16
99 Hammond 1 0 0 15
53 Barber 1 0 0 12
33 Wetherbee 1 0 0 5
57 Bell 1 0 0 3
90 Nelson 0 0 0 21
91 Battle 0 0 0 19
66 Hill 0 0 0 17
97 Greer 0 0 0 8
75 Zessin 0 0 0 6

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
99 Hammond 6 2 30 15
46 Brooks 6 1 29 19
28 Sheff 6 0 36 25
52 Harden 5 3 19 18
38 Battle 5 2 20 17
51 Martinez 5 1 30 17
29 Crawford 5 1 26 18
39 Geffen 3 3 29 21
43 Godfrey 3 2 33 18
90 Nelson 3 2 30 21
57 Bell 3 0 10 3
93 Peabody 2 4 17 16
91 Battle 2 0 29 19
53 Barber 1 2 13 12
68 Farrell 1 0 33 22
97 Greer 1 0 10 8
33 Wetherbee 1 0 9 5
75 Zessin 1 0 8 6
66 Hill 0 1 16 17
92 Ramsey 0 0 2 0

Providence Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 15 118 7.8
Middle 19 66 3.4
Right 4 22 5.5
None 1 -1 -1.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
70 Ribich 4 9 35
56 Gordon 3 6 37
75 Neill 3 5 30
28 Bullock 1 4 26
64 McIntyre 1 3 29
87 Elliott 1 2 31
84 Hutchison 1 1 23
61 Winslett 1 1 10
66 Glenn 0 3 29
49 Crane 0 1 9
54 Roberts 0 1 9
67 Alston 0 1 9
78 Fagelman 0 1 7
85 Harris 0 0 5

Providence Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 3 3 12 4.0
Short (0-8 Yds) 14 12 87 6.2
Medium (9-18 Yds) 7 7 90 12.8
Long (19+ Yds) 3 1 24 8.0

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
19 Craig 14 11 1 0 1 1 0 0
14 Crute 13 12 0 0 0 0 1 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
88 Tanner 7 7 0 88 19
87 Elliott 6 4 0 36 22
38 Briggs 6 5 0 20 20
84 Hutchison 3 3 0 28 11
80 Rayburn 3 2 0 19 21
8 Shields 1 1 0 18 10
28 Bullock 1 1 0 4 10

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
70 Ribich 0 24
56 Gordon 0 23
66 Glenn 0 22
75 Neill 0 22
64 McIntyre 1 20
28 Bullock 0 10
78 Fagelman 0 7
54 Roberts 1 6
67 Alston 0 6
61 Winslett 0 5
49 Crane 0 4

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
90 Scarborough 1.0 0 0 25
92 Koontz 0.5 0 0 29
71 Lombard 0.5 0 0 14
79 Whittle 0.0 0 1 23
42 Walters 0.0 0 0 28
25 Honeycutt 0.0 0 0 24
27 Crane 0.0 0 0 24
29 Lander 0.0 0 0 22
48 Brizzolara 0.0 0 0 21
96 Pearson 0.0 0 0 20
53 Lovett 0.0 0 0 18
30 Crespo 0.0 0 0 17
46 Vance 0.0 0 0 15
98 Browning 0.0 0 0 14
72 Givens 0.0 0 0 13
91 Cote 0.0 0 0 12
57 Mathews 0.0 0 0 6
74 Stuart 0.0 0 0 4
58 Page 0.0 0 0 1

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
42 Walters 4 0 0 28
29 Lander 4 0 0 22
46 Vance 3 0 1 15
96 Pearson 3 0 0 20
92 Koontz 2 0 0 29
25 Honeycutt 1 1 1 24
27 Crane 1 0 0 24
48 Brizzolara 1 0 0 21
53 Lovett 1 0 0 18
30 Crespo 1 0 0 17
98 Browning 1 0 0 14
57 Mathews 1 0 0 6
90 Scarborough 0 0 0 25
79 Whittle 0 0 0 23
71 Lombard 0 0 0 14
72 Givens 0 0 0 13
91 Cote 0 0 0 12
74 Stuart 0 0 0 4
58 Page 0 0 0 1

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
92 Koontz 6 2 19 29
98 Browning 5 0 13 14
90 Scarborough 4 3 19 25
96 Pearson 4 3 17 20
25 Honeycutt 4 1 20 24
53 Lovett 4 1 15 18
46 Vance 4 1 9 15
42 Walters 4 0 18 28
29 Lander 3 0 12 22
71 Lombard 2 2 11 14
48 Brizzolara 2 1 16 21
30 Crespo 2 1 16 17
72 Givens 2 1 11 13
91 Cote 1 1 11 12
79 Whittle 1 0 17 23
27 Crane 1 0 15 24
57 Mathews 1 0 5 6
74 Stuart 0 0 4 4
58 Page 0 0 4 1
59 Shannon 0 0 1 0

Injuries

LG Calvin Gaines - Probable - 1 week
MLB Lonnie Bell - Probable - Unknown
LT Tracy Pedersen - Probable - 1 week
LT Harry Wooldridge - Out - 1994
FB Ethan Brock - Probable - 4 weeks

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Exhibition Week 4

Box Score: Bermuda at Little Rock
Little Rock, TX.

Exhibition Week 5, 1993

Attendance: 60,700 (69,500).


Weather: 68 degrees, fair.

1Q: 02:05 BER - Maurice Van Pelt 7 pass from Amos Todd.
1Q: 02:05 BER - Tyrone Schulz extra point.
2Q: 14:04 LTR - Shaun Blaine 24 pass from Otis Coghill.
2Q: 14:04 LTR - Rod Covington extra point.
2Q: 04:15 LTR - Duane Crawford 4 run.
2Q: 04:15 LTR - Rod Covington extra point failed.
2Q: 00:24 BER - Rusty Arsenault 4 run.
2Q: 00:24 BER - Tyrone Schulz extra point.
4Q: 14:11 LTR - Rod Covington 32 field goal.
4Q: 08:36 BER - Jake Romero 15 pass from Clarence Pulley.
4Q: 08:36 BER - Tyrone Schulz extra point.
4Q: 01:53 BER - Lamar Guajardo 2 run.
4Q: 01:53 BER - Tyrone Schulz extra point.

Game MVP: BER 51 Norman Solymos

Bermuda 7 7 0 14 - 28
Little Rock 0 13 0 3 - 16

Team Statistics BER LTR

First Downs 26 18

Total Rushes 40 23
Rushing Yards 170 131
Yards Per Carry 4.2 5.6
Pass Attempts 29 32
Completions 21 17
Passing Yards 244 190
Yards Per Attempt 8.4 5.9
Sacked 1 3
Yards Lost 6 13
Interceptions 1 1
Fumbles/Lost 1/1 1/0

Total Plays 69 55
Total Yards 414 321
Yards Per Play 6.0 5.8

3rd Down Plays 8/13 5/12

Avg. YTG on 3rd 4.6 9.2

4th Down Plays 0/0 0/1

Penalties 1 5
Penalty Yards 4 40

Avg. Drive Start OWN 25 OWN 30
Time Of Possession 33:49 26:11

Bermuda Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
40 Phillips 13 44 3.3 14 0
30 Guajardo 13 55 4.2 12 1
26 Arsenault 7 32 4.5 11 1
4 Todd 5 41 8.2 15 0
2 Pulley 2 -2 -1.0 -1 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
4 Todd 22 16 164 7.4 33 1 1 1
2 Pulley 7 5 80 11.4 28 1 0 0

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
83 Honaker 5 66 13.2 4 33 0
18 Price 5 79 15.8 8 28 0
42 Van Pelt 3 35 11.6 7 23 1
84 Erickson 2 26 13.0 14 21 0
30 Guajardo 2 13 6.5 14 9 0
24 Suto 2 6 3.0 8 3 0
26 Arsenault 1 4 4.0 0 4 0
82 Romero 1 15 15.0 0 15 1

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
40 Phillips 1 3 3.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
31 Caldwell 2 34 17.0 0
42 Van Pelt 1 20 20.0 0
23 Kandel 1 11 11.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
14 Williams 3 108 36.0 45 0

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
8 Schulz 0 0 0 4 4

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
48 Seals 7 2 0.0 0 0 0
51 Solymos 6 2 2.0 0 0 0
52 Dorsch 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
91 Harr 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
46 Applin 3 2 0.0 1 0 0
45 Dooling 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
94 Mitchell 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
23 Kandel 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
96 Dehaven 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
36 Young 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
32 Brady 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
47 Patton 1 2 0.5 0 0 0
31 Caldwell 1 0 0.5 0 0 0
73 Kripper 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
78 Woodard 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
4 Todd 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
83 Honaker 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
42 Van Pelt 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
68 Kirk 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
14 Williams 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
59 McIntyre 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
95 Kaiser 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
97 Kane 0 2 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
65 Hazen 0 0 0 0 2 1
54 Engott 0 0 0 0 3 0
77 Dillon 0 0 0 0 2 0
74 Clinton 0 0 0 0 2 0
55 Vranjen 0 0 0 0 2 0
84 Erickson 1 0 0 0 0 0
66 Money 0 0 0 0 1 0
82 Romero 0 0 0 0 1 0
63 Reeves 0 0 0 0 1 0
68 Kirk 0 0 0 0 1 0
94 Mitchell 0 1 0 0 0 0

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
35 Crawford 14 78 5.5 13 1
24 McAfee 4 16 4.0 10 0
45 Lang 2 25 12.5 24 0
6 Barker 1 5 5.0 5 0
25 Brock 1 0 0.0 0 0
5 Coghill 1 7 7.0 7 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
5 Coghill 18 10 113 6.2 24 1 1 1
6 Barker 14 7 77 5.5 47 0 0 2

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
35 Crawford 2 6 3.0 6 4 0
85 McAlister 2 19 9.5 2 12 0
19 Hill 2 15 7.5 1 8 0
25 Brock 2 21 10.5 8 11 0
86 Blaine 2 42 21.0 13 24 1
27 Anunson 2 49 24.5 0 47 0
45 Lang 2 7 3.5 7 6 0
82 Loftis 1 17 17.0 2 17 0
88 Dresow 1 8 8.0 3 8 0
24 McAfee 1 6 6.0 1 6 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
46 Brooks 2 24 12.0 0
85 McAlister 1 -5 -5.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
29 Crawford 2 41 20.5 0
83 Perea 2 51 25.5 0
85 McAlister 1 28 28.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
14 Devine 4 164 41.0 52 0

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
10 Covington 1 1 32 1 2

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
51 Martinez 7 1 0.0 0 0 0
39 Geffen 6 4 0.0 0 0 0
52 Harden 6 1 0.0 0 0 0
29 Crawford 6 0 0.0 0 0 0
28 Sheff 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
53 Barber 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
99 Hammond 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
91 Battle 3 3 0.0 1 17 0
46 Brooks 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
93 Peabody 2 3 0.0 0 0 0
43 Godfrey 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
19 Hill 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
75 Zessin 1 0 1.0 0 0 0
66 Hill 1 2 0.0 0 0 0
68 Farrell 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
57 Bell 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
65 Terry 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
25 Brock 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
27 Anunson 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
38 Battle 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
90 Nelson 0 3 0.0 0 0 0
97 Greer 0 1 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
58 Shepard 0 0 0 0 0 1
62 Johnston 0 0 0 0 1 1
50 Jackson 0 0 0 0 2 1
74 Gaines 0 0 1 0 1 0
72 Penick 0 0 0 0 2 0
67 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 2 0
33 Wetherbee 0 1 0 0 0 0
25 Brock 0 0 0 0 1 0
64 Cunningham 0 0 0 0 1 0
45 Lang 1 0 0 0 0 0
69 Van DeWege 0 0 0 0 1 0
39 Geffen 0 0 1 0 0 0

Bermuda Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 10:01 2:09 OWN 42 3 1 Punt
1 7:02 4:57 OWN 45 9 55 Touchdown
2 14:04 4:40 OWN 14 9 52 Fumble
2 4:15 3:51 OWN 29 9 71 Touchdown
3 15:00 3:24 OWN 13 6 22 Punt
3 10:03 4:23 OWN 28 8 46 Interception
3 3:22 1:19 OWN 29 3 6 Punt
4 14:11 5:35 OWN 18 11 82 Touchdown
4 5:12 3:19 OWN 20 10 80 Touchdown
4 0:27 0:27 OWN 14 2 -2 Game

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 4:59 OWN 19 12 35 Interception
1 7:52 0:50 OWN 23 3 -1 Punt
1 2:05 3:01 OWN 28 5 72 Touchdown
2 9:24 5:09 OWN 34 11 66 Touchdown
2 0:24 0:24 OWN 28 2 -5 Half
3 11:36 1:33 OWN 28 3 1 Punt
3 5:40 2:18 OWN 31 5 7 Punt
3 2:03 2:52 OWN 47 5 38 Field Goal
4 8:36 3:24 OWN 32 6 16 Punt
4 1:53 1:26 OWN 38 7 48 Downs

Bermuda Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
4 4 0

Little Rock Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
3 1 1

Bermuda Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 10 35 3.5
Middle 16 78 4.8
Right 12 59 4.9
None 2 -2 -1.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
54 Engott 3 4 30
55 Vranjen 2 6 25
77 Dillon 2 4 34
65 Hazen 2 4 26
74 Clinton 2 3 17
68 Kirk 1 5 20
63 Reeves 1 4 11
66 Money 1 3 17
82 Romero 1 1 24
84 Erickson 0 0 20
24 Suto 0 0 19
21 Strong 0 0 11

Bermuda Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 5 4 21 4.2
Short (0-8 Yds) 9 7 56 6.2
Medium (9-18 Yds) 8 7 83 10.3
Long (19+ Yds) 7 3 84 12.0

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
4 Todd 22 16 1 1 1 0 2 1
2 Pulley 7 5 1 0 0 1 0 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
83 Honaker 7 5 0 66 18
18 Price 7 5 1 79 20
30 Guajardo 4 2 0 13 13
84 Erickson 3 2 0 26 20
42 Van Pelt 3 3 0 35 9
24 Suto 2 2 0 6 20
40 Phillips 1 0 0 0 10
26 Arsenault 1 1 0 4 6
82 Romero 1 1 0 15 9

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
77 Dillon 0 26
54 Engott 0 26
65 Hazen 1 22
66 Money 0 20
24 Suto 0 20
55 Vranjen 0 20
74 Clinton 0 11
63 Reeves 0 10
68 Kirk 0 10
21 Strong 0 5

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
51 Solymos 2.0 0 0 15
47 Patton 0.5 0 0 25
31 Caldwell 0.5 0 0 8
73 Kripper 0.0 1 1 27
99 Throckmorton 0.0 1 0 25
36 Young 0.0 1 0 3
48 Seals 0.0 0 0 28
91 Harr 0.0 0 0 27
94 Mitchell 0.0 0 0 25
95 Kaiser 0.0 0 0 21
52 Dorsch 0.0 0 0 20
97 Kane 0.0 0 1 10
32 Brady 0.0 0 0 20
45 Dooling 0.0 0 0 17
23 Kandel 0.0 0 0 17
46 Applin 0.0 0 0 15
44 Stone 0.0 0 0 14
78 Woodard 0.0 0 0 12
90 Thomason 0.0 0 0 12
96 Dehaven 0.0 0 0 8
59 McIntyre 0.0 0 0 3

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
48 Seals 4 3 0 28
52 Dorsch 3 1 0 20
91 Harr 2 0 0 27
23 Kandel 2 0 0 17
51 Solymos 2 0 0 15
47 Patton 1 1 0 25
32 Brady 1 0 0 20
45 Dooling 1 0 0 17
96 Dehaven 1 0 0 8
46 Applin 0 1 1 15
95 Kaiser 0 1 0 21
73 Kripper 0 0 0 27
99 Throckmorton 0 0 0 25
94 Mitchell 0 0 0 25
44 Stone 0 0 0 14
78 Woodard 0 0 0 12
90 Thomason 0 0 0 12
97 Kane 0 0 0 10
31 Caldwell 0 0 0 8
36 Young 0 0 0 3
59 McIntyre 0 0 0 3

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
48 Seals 7 2 19 28
51 Solymos 6 2 14 15
52 Dorsch 5 1 15 20
91 Harr 4 0 20 27
46 Applin 3 2 12 15
94 Mitchell 3 0 18 25
45 Dooling 3 0 9 17
23 Kandel 2 1 8 17
32 Brady 2 0 11 20
96 Dehaven 2 0 7 8
36 Young 2 0 0 3
47 Patton 1 2 15 25
73 Kripper 1 1 20 27
78 Woodard 1 1 4 12
95 Kaiser 1 0 13 21
31 Caldwell 1 0 5 8
59 McIntyre 1 0 1 3
97 Kane 0 2 5 10
99 Throckmorton 0 0 16 25
44 Stone 0 0 13 14
90 Thomason 0 0 6 12

Little Rock Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 9 39 4.3
Middle 7 28 4.0
Right 7 64 9.1
None 0 0 0.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
50 Jackson 2 6 19
67 Pedersen 2 2 15
72 Penick 2 2 10
74 Gaines 1 1 16
62 Johnston 1 1 11
25 Brock 1 1 10
69 Van DeWege 1 1 6
64 Cunningham 1 1 4
65 Terry 0 2 17
58 Shepard 0 2 7
82 Loftis 0 1 14
27 Anunson 0 1 6
88 Dresow 0 0 6

Little Rock Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 4 3 11 2.7
Short (0-8 Yds) 10 9 61 6.1
Medium (9-18 Yds) 15 4 71 4.7
Long (19+ Yds) 2 1 47 23.5

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
5 Coghill 18 10 1 0 4 1 1 1
6 Barker 14 7 0 0 3 2 1 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
25 Brock 5 2 0 21 19
83 Perea 5 0 0 0 27
86 Blaine 4 2 0 42 26
35 Crawford 3 2 0 6 14
88 Dresow 3 1 0 8 10
82 Loftis 2 1 0 17 19
85 McAlister 2 2 0 19 13
19 Hill 2 2 0 15 9
27 Anunson 2 2 0 49 7
45 Lang 2 2 0 7 8
24 McAfee 1 1 0 6 8

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
50 Jackson 1 29
62 Johnston 1 26
74 Gaines 0 24
67 Pedersen 0 24
65 Terry 0 24
25 Brock 0 19
72 Penick 0 14
58 Shepard 1 12
27 Anunson 0 7
69 Van DeWege 0 7

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
75 Zessin 1.0 0 1 9
99 Hammond 0.0 1 0 26
68 Farrell 0.0 0 1 21
51 Martinez 0.0 0 0 26
91 Battle 0.0 0 0 25
90 Nelson 0.0 0 0 23
39 Geffen 0.0 0 0 23
43 Godfrey 0.0 0 0 22
28 Sheff 0.0 0 0 22
29 Crawford 0.0 0 0 19
46 Brooks 0.0 0 0 18
93 Peabody 0.0 0 0 16
38 Battle 0.0 0 0 16
52 Harden 0.0 0 0 15
57 Bell 0.0 0 0 10
53 Barber 0.0 0 0 8
66 Hill 0.0 0 0 8
33 Wetherbee 0.0 0 0 7
97 Greer 0.0 0 0 4
92 Ramsey 0.0 0 0 1

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
51 Martinez 3 1 0 26
43 Godfrey 3 0 0 22
28 Sheff 3 0 0 22
29 Crawford 3 0 0 19
52 Harden 3 0 0 15
33 Wetherbee 3 0 0 7
53 Barber 2 0 0 8
39 Geffen 1 0 0 23
91 Battle 0 0 1 25
99 Hammond 0 0 0 26
90 Nelson 0 0 0 23
68 Farrell 0 0 0 21
46 Brooks 0 0 0 18
93 Peabody 0 0 0 16
38 Battle 0 0 0 16
57 Bell 0 0 0 10
75 Zessin 0 0 0 9
66 Hill 0 0 0 8
97 Greer 0 0 0 4
92 Ramsey 0 0 0 1

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
51 Martinez 7 1 27 26
39 Geffen 6 4 26 23
52 Harden 6 1 29 15
29 Crawford 6 0 20 19
28 Sheff 5 1 31 22
99 Hammond 4 2 31 26
53 Barber 4 2 15 8
91 Battle 3 3 27 25
46 Brooks 3 2 26 18
33 Wetherbee 3 0 7 7
93 Peabody 2 3 23 16
43 Godfrey 2 0 27 22
66 Hill 1 2 10 8
68 Farrell 1 1 30 21
38 Battle 1 0 16 16
57 Bell 1 0 5 10
75 Zessin 1 0 6 9
90 Nelson 0 3 31 23
97 Greer 0 1 9 4
92 Ramsey 0 0 0 1

Injuries

MLB Lonnie Bell - Probable - Unknown
LT Hardy Wooldridge - Out - 1994
FB Ethan Brock - Probable - 5 weeks
LDT Teddy Hill - Probable - 2 weeks

[primelord]

Here is a quick recap of how the DLine played.

Name Tkl Ast Sck Pblk Hur Rply Pply PrPCT TkPCT
Zessin 8 0 2 0 3 75 68 7.4 5.6
Battle 5 3 1 0 1 72 58 3.4 6.2
Greer 5 3 1 0 1 73 73 2.7 5.5
Hammond 18 6 1 1 0 120 92 2.2 11.3
Farrell 2 1 0 0 1 72 58 1.7 2.3
Hill 4 6 0 1 0 74 69 1.4 7.0
Nelson 7 6 0 0 1 94 78 1.3 7.6

Outside of Zessin it was a very uninspiring pre-season for the defensive line in terms of pass rushing. Although Hammond seems to have had a very good pre-season stopping the run which is supposed to be his weak spot. So that is encouraging.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by primelord
Outside of Zessin it was a very uninspiring pre-season for the defensive line in terms of pass rushing. Although Hammond seems to have had a very good pre-season stopping the run which is supposed to be his weak spot. So that is encouraging.


In my Opinion this is how they stacked up (from top to bottom):

hammond - cleary a cut above the rest

zessin, nelson - decent i guess

battle, hill, greer - step behind the rest

farrell - terrible.

[Bee]

Hammond definitely looked good. I wouldn't guarantee he'll develop as well as Wolfe, but he's on that path right now.

[primelord]

cthomer,

I agree for the most part with your thoughts. I am giving Greer a little more slack because he had some success with us last season.

I think our active Dline this season will be Finley, Ramsey, Hammond, Davison, Zessin, Castillo, and Greer.

We will cut Farrell, Kelly, and Hill. And the remainders will go on the inactive list.

[Bee]

I think Cunningham should probably start at RT. Neither he nor Johnston really stepped up and won the position in preseason, so I figure we stick with they guy from last year. That was the only position I saw on the o-line that was really up for grabs from my view point.

[Bee]

Game MVP: KYH 50 Kendrick Hauck

Looks like our former center wanted to prove something in the preseason game against us. ;)

[wade moore]

All-in-All, I'm actually pretty happy with the offense. We put up good numbers overall, and that was with the young QB and no Ox. It continued to prove to me that we just do not have a steady run game without him, although we did fall behind early in several games. I think Coghill also lost any chance he had of being the starter -- anyone want to lobby in his favor?

I agree Bee, Cunningham at RT... Pederson did fine at LT. Of course he's no Wooldridge, but no one expected that. Perea looks good.. I think Im going to start him, possibly with somewhat low PT.. I'm also going to lower McAlister's PT a bit (sorry, probably no 1,000 yarder this year doug ;) )..

[wade moore]

RB Keith Baker signed on with the Sacremento Royals. It looks like he'll be the starter behind a BEAST of a FB (averages more YPC than Crawford ;) )... I plan to keep an eye on him and see how he does, I definately liked the kid..

[primelord]

wade,

here are the updated files. The defensive chanegs are all made.You are going to have to cut one guy from the offense. That will get us down to 53.

[wade moore]

Oh..and he's there on a 1 year, 970k offer.. damn..

[primelord]

File # 2

[primelord]

Originally posted by wade moore
Oh..and he's there on a 1 year, 970k offer.. damn..

Yea thats what Pensacola is paying Wolfe. *grumble* *grumble*

[Anrhydeddu]

You're kidding? How can a player go from asking $14m for the first year all the way down to $970k? That doesn't seem right.

[Doug5984]

wow- only $970k, they are getting a great deal at that price. Maybe after this season his asking price will have come down a little bit from what he was asking for this past offseason. If it isn't to much we might be able to make a run at signing him again, if we want to.

[wade moore]

I'll start a new thread, looks like we're happy and ready to start the real thing... There isn't much up for discussion at this point I hope...

[Bee]

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
You're kidding? How can a player go from asking $14m for the first year all the way down to $970k? That doesn't seem right.

That's one of the problems I have with FOF4. Players ask for huge amounts of money and then after training camp they all sign for the minimum 1 year deal. The gamer can't even compete for them as all the computer teams sign those players immediately after training camp and the gamer only has access to whatever is left.

While that can add to the challenge of the game (by forcing the gamer to either pay big bucks or lose the player), it's still a game flaw and could be handled in other ways that would be both challenging and more realistic IMO.

[QuikSand]

At some point in the programming process, it's clear that you just seek to tie up loose ends. That certainly seems to be what happens with big money players who don't get signed. Rather than have them sitting around begging for a lesser deal, they suck it up, sign for one year for peanuts, and try again the next year.

Is it great? No. Realistic? Not really.

Does it accomplish the most important goal from the gamer's perspective - eliminating the huge backdoor way to vastly improvbe your team in this game's predecessor versions? Yeah, it basically does that.

I'm not thrilled, but I see the thinking there.