Can someone please explain this

[claretonmyshirt]

I am in my seconds eason with my team in a multi player league

10-6 in my first season, 3-1 until todays game in my 2nd season, so i know what i am doing

I just played Miami his QB is a rookie 18/47 with the lowest expereince, his QB stats for the gameare 15 of 16 197 yards 139.6 rating and 1 td, prior to the game the same QB had a 51% comp % 3 Td's 9 ints and a QB rating of less than 50. In the Same game my QB 57/61 completes 12 of 26 for 160 (86 yards off of 1 play)

Running wise his HB runs 38 times (yes 38 times if he did this every gme he would run 604 times a season !!!!!!!) for 163 yards behind a OL that is, before the game i had given up 308 yards rushing in 4 games (75 yards a game) same game plan

run block and then strength

C 16-44
LG 40-46
RG 29-11
LT 79-41
RT 42-42

I have Shaun Rogers Run D 80, MLB of 80 and other good run stoppers

All my DB's are rated 50+ bar including the nickle back

Please don''t say this is bad dice throws

[sovereignstar]

what's your cohesion and your opponent's cohesion? what are the ratings of every other player on your team? what are the ratings of every other player on your opponent's team? whose stadium was the game played in? what are the ratings of your coach? what are the ratings of miami's coach? what does your gameplan look like? what does the gameplan of your opponent look like? etc etc etc etc

[claretonmyshirt]

what's your cohesion and your opponent's cohesion? what are the ratings of every other player on your team? what are the ratings of every other player on your opponent's team? whose stadium was the game played in? what are the ratings of your coach? what are the ratings of miami's coach? what does your gameplan look like? what does the gameplan of your opponent look like? etc etc etc etc

About 15 of his starters had Flu as well, his stadium.

My D is
DE 48/65
De 49/70
DT 67/67
DT 38/55
wlb 40/40
SLB 39/52
MLB 72/72
CB 53/53
CB 52/55
FS 51/51
SS 47/66

His Fb was 36/45 and TE 44

My cohesion good and good on d, his Off vgood and vgood
His coach good and good for play calling and my coach good and average

THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT

[highfiveoh]

About 15 of his starters had Flu as well, his stadium.

My D is
DE 48/65
De 49/70
DT 67/67
DT 38/55
wlb 40/40
SLB 39/52
MLB 72/72
CB 53/53
CB 52/55
FS 51/51
SS 47/66

His Fb was 36/45 and TE 44

My cohesion good and good on d, his Off vgood and vgood

THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT

bad dice throws

[claretonmyshirt]

bad dice throws

and your a comedian arn't you !

[sovereignstar]

Really, what do you want to hear? Are you saying that you should've beat that team 100 times out of 100 or what?

[claretonmyshirt]

Really, what do you want to hear? Are you saying that you should've beat that team 100 times out of 100 or what?

No not at all, but those stats are ridiculous considering the skill sets of both teams, his LG and C where 45 on run block added together and strength 55 added together with green and blue experience and he ran 33 times for 144 yards against 2 players who where at least twice as good. I would not mind if it was due to say a 70 yard run or something but it was a steady thing, addto that the QB Stats and what the QB had done b4 45 qb rating and it stinks

[claretonmyshirt]

Remember as well about 15 of his playes played with flu with reduced skill settings, if his centre was any worse he'd of been dead

[Joe]

you should definitely be winning every game

[claretonmyshirt]

you should definitely be winning every game

If i win i win if i lose i lose but come please explain those stats to me, if it is down o lucky dice rolls then it does not make the game vey skillful does it !

[Tormaz]

Sometimes players play well above their ratings. In FoF and real football. It happens.

Just like when a backup QB comes in when a starter goes down and lights up the defense. The next week that same backup QB throws 5 interceptions.

Thats the beauty of football. So many things can happen.

I am going to guess that his QB just played a game well above his norm and your team played poorly.

[Tasan]

Paging Todd Collins, Todd Collins, your FOF counterpart has been spotted.


He's gotta be a 35/35 in real life right?

[Vinatieri for Prez]

It really is quite ridiculous that a raw, virtually unknown, low ratings bar, 2nd year QB named Tom Brady won a SB, isn't it?

Why not revel in what can clearly be a real life occurrence that adds life/immersion to your league rather than complaining? Moving on.

[larrymcg421]

"If luck weren't involved, I guess I'd win every one."
-Phil Hellmuth

[PiemasterUK]

OMG I had like TEH SAME THING happen to me!!!! week 9 and I was playing as teh Saints and I was running hot! Had won my last 4 games and last year had nearly got to the superbowl (beat by the bears with the same BS luck) So anyway I am playing at hoem to the rams and OMG they are like the worst team in the leage or something they are like 0-8. They have this ropey QB and their rb is injured and their reievers as really old and there defence is rubbish. Should be a realy realy easy win. And then like teh game is pulling da shit on me!!! They scored 37 points!! and teh QB is throwing like 300 yards witrh 2tds and no inteceptions and some washed up 31 year old reciever has got like 120 yards or sumthing. Anyway its complete BS and I end up not making the playoffs because of this game and more BS against the bears (AGAIN!) in week 17 and this game is totally rigged and is out to screw me and i quit.

Sean Payton

[BradS]

Somewhat related. I lost the leagues top rated QB and started 2-7 as a result. Signed this guy who leaves alot to be desired.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m219/BradS_62/Gino.png

As a starter 6-1 thus far. I'm just a little stunned (pleasantly of course) on how he turned the team around it seems.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m219/BradS_62/Ginoseason.png

[Ben E Lou]

A one-game sample is pretty much meaningless. I could point you to countless individual NFL games where a great run defense got destroyed by a weak rushing offense, or where a crappy QB had a great one-game performance. I just spent about 60 seconds at NFL.com and found that Ryan Grant had his 2nd-best rushing day of the season against the league's #1 rushing defense, and that rookie QB Trent Edwards had his best passing day of the year against the #4 passing defense. In the NFL, stuff happens that makes no "logical" sense on a fairly regular basis. In any computer simulation, this gets translated as "bad dice rolls."

Welcome to Canton.

[Ben E Lou]

Oh yeah....


Deal With It.http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/fofc/trademark.gif

[claretonmyshirt]

Sometimes players play well above their ratings. In FoF and real football. It happens.

Just like when a backup QB comes in when a starter goes down and lights up the defense. The next week that same backup QB throws 5 interceptions.

Thats the beauty of football. So many things can happen.

I am going to guess that his QB just played a game well above his norm and your team played poorly.

I accept that one player can step up and play a great game, but his whole team did and they stepped up far above what they should be able to do and the team had FLU, his Centre was a 26/53 stats of 16/27/44/30, the LG a 36 36 with stats of 29/11/45/100 the R 40/46/34/56 up against Shaun Rogers etc. My front fours endurance was average 50, his OL averaged 40 yet he runs it 53 times succesfully and he did not have one big gain that ould explain the stats either

I appreciate you have to have upset results, i accept there has to be a degree of luck in the game but this is just unrealistic, stupid and a complete load of rubbish

FOF looks great with all the stats, contracts, tables etc but the gamplay needs some very heavy work doing. How many HB can run a ball 38 times in one game (works out at 604 times a season) it's just basic to get that right. How can players with Flu play like supermen, come on i bet you've all had flu before and you know just how sh-te you felt so ell me how they became superstars (again this is basic)

Was the new patch tested before being released ???????

[Ben E Lou]

How many HB can run a ball 38 times in one game (works out at 604 times a season) it's just basic to get that right.

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35-30 (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29105&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2006&seasonType=REG&week=17) </td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>33</td> <td>138</td> <td>4.2</td> <td>40</td> <td>3</td> <td>5</td> <td>22</td> <td>4.4</td> <td>10</td> <td>0</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> </tr> <tr class="datatabledatahead"> <td colspan="4">TOTAL</td> <td>16</td> <td>16</td> <td>416</td> <td>1,789</td> <td>4.3</td> <td>47</td> <td>17</td> <td>41</td> <td>410</td> <td>10.0</td> <td>78</td> <td>2</td> <td>2</td> <td>2</td></tr></tbody></table>
OH NO!!!! LARRY JOHNSON CARRIED THE BALL 39 TIMES IN ONE GAME!!! THE NFL IS BROKEN. IT'S JUST BASIC TO GET THAT RIGHT!!!!! THAT WORKS OUT TO 624 CARRIES IN A SEASON!!! OMGWTFLOLBBQ!!!!!

[Ben E Lou]

Dola:

Please tell me you're just a troll, and not really this obtuse.

[claretonmyshirt]

all hail Sky Dog for he has spoken

[claretonmyshirt]

Skydog,

Why am a troll and why am i being obtuse? It is because i question the game, for give me how dare i question the game oh great one.

Did Larry Johnson have Flu then when he ran 40 times or whatever, did he run behind a terrible OL and still get over 4ypc against Shaun Rogers and Co

[Ben E Lou]

Skydog,

Why am a troll and why am i being obtuse?It's not just this particular thread, but other things you've posted as well. That being said, the argument in this thread that no back should ever have 38 carries in a game because it extrapolates to 604 in a season may well be the single most inane game criticism I've ever seen posted in roughly nine years.

It is because i question the game, for give me how dare i question the game oh great one.There's nothing wrong with questioning the game. I'm quite certain I myself am among the four or five people who have questioned the game the most, reported the most bugs, and given the most criticism of it. It's not the questioning, it's the amount of sheer senselessness in your battery of work.

Did Larry Johnson have Flu then when he ran 40 times or whatever, did he run behind a terrible OL and still get over 4ypc against Shaun Rogers and CoSilly me. I guess no NFL back could EVER carry 40 times with the flu. That would be too, uh, Sweet, to be true, huh? ;)

[Subby]

HEY SKYDOG. ASSHOLE. HE WAS 10-6 LAST SEASON AND 3-1 STARTING THIS SEASON.

HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

[Subby]

dola

THE GAME DOES NOT USE DICE SO THESE PEOPLE SAYING BAD DICE THROWS ARE JUST MAKING SICK JOKE

[Ben E Lou]

HEY SKYDOG. ASSHOLE. HE WAS 10-6 LAST SEASON AND 3-1 STARTING THIS SEASON.

HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

Subbycapshttp://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/fofc/trademark.gif f...t.........w!!!

[claretonmyshirt]

I am sorry but i had flu about 4 weeks back and i was terrible for 2 weeks and there is no way that he could run that many times with it and gain 4ypc behind a line that had flu as well.

Add to that his QB stats, this is a QB with a rating of less than 50, 3 tds and 9 ints with a 51% completion rating playing against a good D who then completes 15 of 16 and has a rating of 139.

My QB (4000 yrds last year) has a shocker he is a 57/61 playing behind a very good line we good receivers

I can accept one of these things but not all of them.

So Skydog what your telling me is that a team that has flu (mainly the Off) suddenly all step up and play 2-3 times better than they have all season, have the ball alot longer and all put up stats that do not match there skill set in any shape or form.

Also the season stats for Johnson is the season record for carries, so a one off season for a team re-knowned for pounding the ball so i think its you who is using a tiny sample size not me

So my work is not shit, i am not a genius at this game by any stretch of the imagination but as i said i can understand one player, maybe two stepping up and having the games of there lifes but not all of them when they are ridden with flu and not when some of the players are maxed out backups at best.

The more i play this game the more i feel that within a bout 5 minutes of the game starting you know whether you will win or lose

[Ben E Lou]

So you really are being serious, huh? Just wow.

I am sorry but i had flu about 4 weeks back and i was terrible for 2 weeks and there is no way that he could run that many times with it and gain 4ypc behind a line that had fle as well.No offense intended, but I'd hazard a guess that most NFL running backs' bodies are in a little bit better shape than yours, and therefore can respond better to illness. As I referenced, it's a pretty "Sweet" thing.

Add to that his QB stats, thi is a QB with a rating of less than 50, 3 tds and 9 ints with a 51% completion rating playing against a good D who then completes 15 of 16 and has a ratin of 139.Are you not reading? This happens in the NFL. Not often, but it happens. It took me less than one minute to find an example from this season in the NFL. I'm sure if I dug a little more, I could find others. Heck, Joey Harrington was something like 24 for 32 against an NFL defense this year. If he can have one game like that, any pro QB can. ;)

My QB (4000 yrds last year) has a shocker*shurg*

I can accept one of these things but not all of them.*shurg*

So Skydog what your telling me is that a team that has flu (mainly the Off) suddenly all step up and play 2-3 times better than they have all season, have the ball alot longer and all put up stats that do not match there skill set in any shape or form.It's the NFL. On any given Sunday, a terrible team can go on the road and win against a playoff team.

Also the season stats for Johnson is the season record for carries, so a one off season for a team re-knowned for pounding the ball so i think its you who is using a tiny sample size not meMy sample size is *exactly* the same size as yours: one game. And it's an appropriate sample to refute your implication that a back should *NEVER* get 38 carries in a game. The best way to refute a statement about what should happen in game is to show contravening evidence from, well, one game. But if I were so inclined, I'm sure I could show you several more individual games in which a single NFL back had in the neighborhood of 38 carries.

[WelshWizard]

We have all had very frustrating moments like yourself with this game. However all these things you mention can and do happen in real life.

You mentioned that your stud QB has a shocker out of the blue as if it is impossible. Just take a look at this NFL Season. Brady has had an incredible year at the QB position. However against the Ravens he did not look so good.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>13</TD><TD align=left>@BAL</TD><TD align=left>W 27-24 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=271203033) </TD><TD>18</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>257</TD><TD>47.4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>76.3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Great teams can lose against teams they are supposed to beat. I would move on from this and enjoy the game for what it is a game.

[larrymcg421]

What was your defensive gameplan like? A poorly designed gameplan can make a mediocre offense look great. As a Dolphins fan, I know this all too well.

[claretonmyshirt]

We have all had very frustrating moments like yourself with this game. However all these things you mention can and do happen in real life.

You mentioned that your stud QB has a shocker out of the blue as if it is impossible. Just take a look at this NFL Season. Brady has had an incredible year at the QB position. However against the Ravens he did not look so good.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>13</TD><TD align=left>@BAL</TD><TD align=left>W 27-24 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=271203033) </TD><TD>18</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>257</TD><TD>47.4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>76.3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Great teams can lose against teams they are supposed to beat. I would move on from this and enjoy the game for what it is a game.

My QB was due a bad game and i am not questioning that one bit although the oppositions D seemed to be in GL and run when i passed a lot , but a QB who is awful and his prior stats show that should not be able to step up and have stats that Brady would be proud of, he had the lowest experience and one stat above 50 and only 2 above 25. On his run game the OL had a 25% lower average endurance than my front 4 and i swap out my front four to keep them fresh and the backups are pretty good so running it 53 times at over 4ypc seems a very stange especially as the longest run was 25 yards so it was a steady run game, then you factor in the Flu dropping about 75% of his offence to fairly good and lower and it stinks.

Skydog yes i accept they have great athletic bodies but the Flu gave most of his offence fairly high or lower performance due to the Flu, so what a 10% 20% drop to the skill levels ?!?!?

[larrymcg421]

was due a bad game and i am not questioning that one bit although the oppositions D seemed to be in GL and run when i passed a lot , but a QB who is awful and his prior stats show that should not be able to step up and have stats that Brady would be proud of, he had the lowest experience and one stat above 50 and only 2 above 25.

Kyle Boller season QB rating: 75.2
Kyle Boller vs. Pats: 105.3

[claretonmyshirt]

What was your defensive gameplan like? A poorly designed gameplan can make a mediocre offense look great. As a Dolphins fan, I know this all too well.


My gameplan was pretty good, well good enough to win me the last 3 straight and the opposition GM used what seems like exactly the same plan as he did the previous week because he had players back from injury who where a lot better that he did not put back in, so it seems likely he did not upload. I looked at what he did last week especially around the 1st Down scenario yet his QB was completing into double coverage and HB running through Sean Rogers and my much better DL regardless if i was in run or pass, in fact he seemed to gain more yards when i was in the right D and less when in the wrong D

What I want to understand is why this is happenning because i really can not see i am doing anything that much wrong, My D is good on paper but one week step up and the next have a mare for no apparent reason, My def cord is awesome apart for the Fair Motivation which may have something to do with it, my HC is great too with Vgood motivation, cohesion is good, i do have a red flag player though but no conflicts

[claretonmyshirt]

Sky Dog why is it that you seem to have to be right on everything and always try to take over threads,

Surely you can see that this game produced some very strange stats, the result is not important, it is the stats i am questioning, in sport freaks happen, a boxer may get a lucky punch, in soccer a deflected goal changes everything and the list goes on but never does a whole team step up and play 2-3 times better than there skill set or body allows them to all at once when they are riddled with flu, there would be at least a fewbad throws, a few blown plays, a back with flu would need to rest up for a few downs and list goes on

So sky Dog you seem to love your stats so please find me some where virtually the whole offence had flu, was outmatched and suddenly stepped up and ALL played out of there skins, come on i am dying to see it

[Ben E Lou]

Skydog yes i accept they have great athletic bodies but the Flu gave most of his offence fairly high or lower performance due to the Flu, so what a 10% 20% drop to the skill levels ?!?!?

I don't know how the engine does "good days" and "bad days" (if they're all just the cumulative result of good/bad dice rolls in a given game, or if there's a pregame dice roll for each player to determine if he's going to play below, at, or above his ratings for the entire game.) Regardless of how the flu is calculated in with ratings, though, the "good day/bad day" factor should be of a magnitude such that it's able to trump the negative hit for the flu. It appears that you've missed it, but the "Sweet" comments above are referencing Walter "Sweetness" Payton. His greatest rushing performance of his career, and a record that would stand for three decades, came on day in which he had the flu. 40 (your magic number, not mine) carries, 275 yards.

[claretonmyshirt]

I don't know how the engine does "good days" and "bad days" (if they're all just the cumulative result of good/bad dice rolls in a given game, or if there's a pregame dice roll for each player to determine if he's going to play below, at, or above his ratings for the entire game.) Regardless of how the flu is calculated in with ratings, though, the "good day/bad day" factor should be of a magnitude such that it's able to trump the negative hit for the flu. It appears that you've missed it, but the "Sweet" comments above are referencing Walter "Sweetness" Payton. His greatest rushing performance of his career, and a record that would stand for three decades, came on day in which he had the flu. 40 (your magic number, not mine) carries, 275 yards.

he was running behind a great line for a great team and i do not expect his OL had flu and he had a terrible rookie QB who also threw for the perfect game with flu, his centre had a run block of 16 the RG 29 and strength of 11, come on please wake up and smell the Coffee

[Ben E Lou]

he was running behind a great line for a great teamActually, no. The Bears went 9-5 and got blown out 37-7 in the first round of the playoffs. Not a great team. But that's immaterial to my point--that Payton's GREATEST RUSHING PERFORMANCE EVER came on a day in which he had the flu. That's independent of any other factors at work that day. Compare this game to his other 189 games, and it's #1. It therefore supports the assertion that the "good day/bad day" factor (however FOF determines that) should be of greater significance than the negative hit from the flu. By that assertion, it also becomes possible that every single opposing player had a better-than-rated day. But my guess is that it's probably much more simple than that. Link to the box score?

[claretonmyshirt]

dola

THE GAME DOES NOT USE DICE SO THESE PEOPLE SAYING BAD DICE THROWS ARE JUST MAKING SICK JOKE

It uses a random No generator and in this game it must of got stuck on the highest score for him

[Ben E Lou]

Yes. It must of.

[Raiders Army]

Roids can knock the flu right outta you. You should just be thankful there are no in-season suspensions.

Seriously though, you should look at the game log. If that team was up a bunch, they probably ran the ball a lot to run out the clock.

[Frozenrope]

he was running behind a great line for a great team and i do not expect his OL had flu and he had a terrible rookie QB who also threw for the perfect game with flu, his centre had a run block of 16 the RG 29 and strength of 11, come on please wake up and smell the Coffee


Ummm... not to rain on anyone's parade, but the 1977 Chicago Bears didn't have a great o-line nor a great quarterback when Payton broke the record. I don't think they had the flu, but they were by no means great. They had Dan Jiggets, firchrissakes!!!

If you want to see if the game is 'broken', replay this game 50 times, and see the results. If the flu-bitten players win 35 times, then there is more of an argument.

Methinks this was just an anomoly; one of those things that just 'happens'.

[claretonmyshirt]

Actually, no. The Bears went 9-5 and got blown out 37-7 in the first round of the playoffs. Not a great team. But that's immaterial to my point--that Payton's GREATEST RUSHING PERFORMANCE EVER came on a day in which he had the flu. That's independent of any other factors at work that day. Compare this game to his other 189 games, and it's #1. It therefore supports the assertion that the "good day/bad day" factor (however FOF determines that) should be of greater significance than the negative hit from the flu. By that assertion, it also becomes possible that every single opposing player had a better-than-rated day. But my guess is that it's probably much more simple than that. Link to the box score?

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html

So explain how the rookie inexperienced QB stepped up when his stats b4 today where att123 comp63 3tds, 9ints and a rating well below 50

[larrymcg421]

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html


Are you kidding?

[sovereignstar]

I just talked to god and was able to hunt this down. It's an image of all the dice throws in your particular game. Now you hunt down all the information I asked for in the 2nd post and we'll get serious.

http://www.yetanotherblog.de/media/2/20040301-dice_colors3c_neu_3.jpg

[Ben E Lou]

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html

Please tell me you're just a troll, and not really this obtuse.Repeated.

[claretonmyshirt]

Ummm... not to rain on anyone's parade, but the 1977 Chicago Bears didn't have a great o-line nor a great quarterback when Payton broke the record. I don't think they had the flu, but they were by no means great. They had Dan Jiggets, firchrissakes!!!

If you want to see if the game is 'broken', replay this game 50 times, and see the results. If the flu-bitten players win 35 times, then there is more of an argument.

Methinks this was just an anomoly; one of those things that just 'happens'.

how do i replay the game 50 times when its a mti player game (sorry if thats a stupid ?)

[QuikSand]

From the big picture perspective, if this sort of thing happened all the time, there might be cause for concern -- indicating there might be some sort of systemic problem.

Weird things happening in one game? Just bad dice rolls, that's all there is to it.

As for the guy relentlessly digging in his heels and taking on all comers? Come on, gang, we've seen this movie before (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51843). Time to move along, people.

[claretonmyshirt]

Repeated.

look at the QB stats and then look at what he has done before, the HB is not really the issue as you can mmaybe find reasons as t why it happened if you took the flue away, its the QB as he is truely awful and his prior stats show this without doubt

in my other muti player league I was 4-12 last year and could see why cos i made quite afew major f-ck ups with a bad a team, all i want to know is why this has happened so i can make sure it does not happen again

[Joe]

look at the QB stats and then look at what he has done before

how are we supposed to look at a file that's on your computer???

[larrymcg421]

look at the QB stats and then look at what he has done before

You seem to be missing something pretty obvious here, and it's making me doubt your gameplan.

[claretonmyshirt]

how are we supposed to look at a file that's on your computer???

his stats for the game are at this url i put above C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html


and his seasons stats i've typed in above

[azjoe_02]

his stats for the game are at this url i put above C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html


and his seasons stats i've typed in above

ROFL....JB is that you?

[Joe]

his stats for the game are at this url i put above C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html


and his seasons stats i've typed in above

DUDE.. you cannot be serious. that is ONLY viewable on YOUR computer. Do you not see the C:\ location???? Come on.

[Subby]

his stats for the game are at this url i put above C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html
I seriously thought I would never have a challenger to replace my current sig, but this might just do it. :D

[claretonmyshirt]

whoops Mr computer literate here

Game stats
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 width="96%" border=0 VALIGN="TOP"><TBODY><TR><TD align=left bgColor=#f4f4fc>John Beck</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>16</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>15</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>202</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>1/5</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>1</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>35</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>0</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>139.6</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

B4 hand
att 122
cmp 67
Com % 54.9
yrds 768
Td's 3
Ints 9
rating 51.54

[larrymcg421]

DUDE.. you cannot be serious. that is ONLY viewable on YOUR computer. Do you not see the C:\ location???? Come on.

It's viewable on my computer, but I suspect the box score I'm seeing is not the same one that he's talking about.

Unless he's OMG!!1!! controlling my team. This would explain the 2-14 season I just put up in WOOF

[larrymcg421]

whoops Mr computer literate here

Game stats
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 width="96%" border=0 VALIGN="TOP"><TBODY><TR><TD align=left bgColor=#f4f4fc>John Beck</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>16</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>15</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>202</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>1/5</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>1</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>35</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>0</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#f4f4fc>139.6</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

B4 hand
att 122
cmp 67
Com % 54.9
yrds 768
Td's 3
Ints 9
rating 51.54

It happens. See the Kyle Boller stats I posted earlier in the thread.

The 15-16 makes me suspect there was a problem with your defensive gameplanning, but it could just be....

drumroll....

bad dice rolls.

[Tormaz]

What I want to understand is why this is happenning because i really can not see i am doing anything that much wrong, My D is good on paper but one week step up and the next have a mare for no apparent reason, My def cord is awesome apart for the Fair Motivation which may have something to do with it, my HC is great too with Vgood motivation, cohesion is good, i do have a red flag player though but no conflicts

Chances are you didn't do anything wrong. Chances are you just had a bad game at the same time the other team had a good game. Plain and simple.

If things bother you this much I suggest removing the game from your computer because stuff like this will happen to you.

[claretonmyshirt]

Chances are you didn't do anything wrong. Chances are you just had a bad game at the same time the other team had a good game. Plain and simple.

If things bother you this much I suggest removing the game from your computer because stuff like this will happen to you.

yeah it bothers me becausedon't understnd why it happened and thatsb the infuriating thing and it happened 4 weeks ago against the Raiders to some extent so its gotta be somethingi am doing wrong and i just do not see it, but still his qb stats are just mad considering how good he is

[Skolleck]

I can see everything on his hard drive from that link. Amazing software...

Credit score, check.
Social, check.
Account numbers, check.

OK, got it all, you can shut down your system off now.


Oh anndd yeah, I almost forgot... you caught us all.

The game is rigged, that is why we all play it...

For nine years.

[Ben E Lou]

As for the guy relentlessly digging in his heels and taking on all comers? Come on, gang, we've seen this movie before (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51843). Good comparison, that. Although it might be worth adding this (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=62652) and this (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=61965) to the list.

[claretonmyshirt]

I thought Sky Dog was the Oracle of all knowledge and would have some decent answers, silly me for questionig him, I sha'll try harder next time. I must remember to only ask questions that ar worthy of you oh great one

To those who offered advice etc thank you

[larrymcg421]

I thought Sky Dog was the Oracle of all knowledge and would have some decent answers, silly me for questionig him, I sha'll try harder next time. I must remember to only ask questions that ar worthy of you oh great one

To those who offered advice etc thank you

Um, you got answers, from Skydog and several others in this thread. You just chose not to accept them. We're not going to just keep giving you answers until you find one you like.

[Ben E Lou]

Um, you got answers, from Skydog and several others in this thread. You just chose not to accept them. We're not going to just keep giving you answers until you find one you like.Bingo. He got the correct answers multiple times, and still chooses to ignore them. I'm not sure what he's looking for...

[claretonmyshirt]

so what your saying is it was just the luck of the random number generator, ummmmm well lets hope i am lucky then for the remaining 11 weeks of the season and there was me thinking skill came in to it !:rolleyes:

[stevew]

Charlie Batch posted a QB rating over 120 in 2006. I'd hardly think he's much more than a 30/30 type. Shit happens, deal with it.

Sometimes people play amazing with the flu (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/espn25/story?page=moments/79)

[WelshWizard]

so what your saying is it was just the luck of the random number generator, ummmmm well lets hope i am lucky then for the remaining 11 weeks of the season and there was me thinking skill came in to it !:rolleyes:

You had a bad day live with it, all teams have it and it happened to you. We have all gone through this and it sucks but it happens. Remember the 15-1 Denver Broncos before their Superbowl wins, they lost to Jacksonville in the playoffs no way they were going to lose that game but they did. Please move on and enjoy the game.

[larrymcg421]

so what your saying is it was just the luck of the random number generator, ummmmm well lets hope i am lucky then for the remaining 11 weeks of the season and there was me thinking skill came in to it !:rolleyes:

Yes, because it's either 100% skill or 100% luck. Are you seriously that dense?

What we're saying is that there is a mixture of luck and skill, and in this one, it's possible that luck was the deciding factor. That is going to happen sometimes.

However, I have a suspicion that your defensive gameplan got exposed, but i'm afraid to ask for a screenshot of your gameplan because you'll probably give me a link to your My Documents folder.

[Ben E Lou]

so what your saying is it was just the luck of the random number generator, ummmmm well lets hope i am lucky then for the remaining 11 weeks of the season and there was me thinking skill came in to it !:rolleyes:

Skill absolutely enters into it. The more skilled your players, the better your chances are of success on any given dice roll. But there's always a chance of failure, no matter how small.

[claretonmyshirt]

You had a bad day live with it, all teams have it and it happened to you. We have all gone through this and it sucks but it happens. Remember the 15-1 Denver Broncos before their Superbowl wins, they lost to Jacksonville in the playoffs no way they were going to lose that game but they did. Please move on and enjoy the game.

I shall continue to enjoy the game and i shall move on, like i said some people give advice, good advice and i have had that from other GM's around the league on this and many other issue / questions, what pisses me off is when you ask questons and certain people in there own little world call you names and try to put you down etc for asking questions, perhaps that is why a lot of GM's will not post on here, everyone has to learn and everyone makes mistakes. I expect i shall be black listed or something now for daring to say this so i shall disappear from these forums like so many other GM's have done and let people bitch about me as i have on good authority maybe one or two of you are

Happy New Year to you all and thankyou to those who offered advice

[CraigSca]

I'd suggest you try a less combative tact next time, you may get more follow-ups to your questions.

[Brownkeg8]

I'd suggest you try a less combative tact next time, you may get more follow-ups to your questions.


I agree. I am in the league that this game took place & your post here and there had the same tone along w/ most of your posts. You want the game to be definitive, but there are variables just life in real life that can influence in a positive or negative way.

[Chubby]

Bad dice rolls.

[stevew]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/76/Michael_jackson_bad_cd_cover_1987_cdda.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1305996/article_images/dice.jpg
http://utopiankitchen.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cinnamon-rolls1.jpg

[Ben E Lou]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/76/Michael_jackson_bad_cd_cover_1987_cdda.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1305996/article_images/dice.jpg
http://utopiankitchen.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cinnamon-rolls1.jpg


http://www.gstelmack.com/woof/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

[Tasan]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/76/Michael_jackson_bad_cd_cover_1987_cdda.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1305996/article_images/dice.jpg
http://utopiankitchen.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cinnamon-rolls1.jpg

You, sir, win.

[Antmeister]

...As for the guy relentlessly digging in his heels and taking on all comers? Come on, gang, we've seen this movie before (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51843). Time to move along, people.

Considering they share the same birth month and year, it's not that much of a stretch either. Fascinating thread.

[Antmeister]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/76/Michael_jackson_bad_cd_cover_1987_cdda.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1305996/article_images/dice.jpg
http://utopiankitchen.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cinnamon-rolls1.jpg

Wow!

Scorecards from the judges:
9.8
10.0
10.0
9.7
5.0 (I think this last vote is from judge jbmagic).

[Ben E Lou]

At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue :D

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I shall continue to enjoy the game and i shall move on, like i said some people give advice, good advice and i have had that from other GM's around the league on this and many other issue / questions, what pisses me off is when you ask questons and certain people in there own little world call you names and try to put you down etc for asking questions, perhaps that is why a lot of GM's will not post on here, everyone has to learn and everyone makes mistakes. I expect i shall be black listed or something now for daring to say this so i shall disappear from these forums like so many other GM's have done and let people bitch about me as i have on good authority maybe one or two of you are

Happy New Year to you all and thankyou to those who offered advice

Sure. Happy fuckin' new year to you too, asshat!

I know you all wanted to say it, so I took one for the team.

[Joe]

thanks

[Mistwood19]

Jeez guys, aren't you being a bit harsh on a guy just trying to make his playing of the game more enjoyable? Not everyone playing this game and/or posting on this site spends hours and hours dissecting it. Yes, he probably came on strong with his attitude but I assume most of us would have gone on the defensive after the way he was treated at first.

The piling on and personal attacks are unnecessary IMO.

Claret is a decent guy that was trying to understand the game.

[claretonmyshirt]

Sure. Happy fuckin' new year to you too, asshat!

I know you all wanted to say it, so I took one for the team.


What you do then you little fucking prick, go fuck your mother arsehole

[claretonmyshirt]

Jeez guys, aren't you being a bit harsh on a guy just trying to make his playing of the game more enjoyable? Not everyone playing this game and/or posting on this site spends hours and hours dissecting it. Yes, he probably came on strong with his attitude but I assume most of us would have gone on the defensive after the way he was treated at first.

The piling on and personal attacks are unnecessary IMO.

Claret is a decent guy that was trying to understand the game.


thank you,

and some of you wonder why people stay clear and don't post on here

[larrymcg421]

What you do then you little fucking prick, go fuck your mother arsehole

Hilarious!

[larrymcg421]

thank you,

and some of you wonder why people stay clear and don't post on here

I've never wondered that.

[stevew]

Another case of someone who has no clue about internet etiquette. Someone should have just told him to fuck off on the first page, but then again we'd miss this fun discussion.

[claretonmyshirt]

Another case of someone who has no clue about internet etiquette. Someone should have just told him to fuck off on the first page, but then again we'd miss this fun discussion.

so its alright for him to call me names but not for me to do it back

[Ben E Lou]

Jeez guys, aren't you being a bit harsh on a guy just trying to make his playing of the game more enjoyable? Not everyone playing this game and/or posting on this site spends hours and hours dissecting it. Yes, he probably came on strong with his attitude but I assume most of us would have gone on the defensive after the way he was treated at first.

The piling on and personal attacks are unnecessary IMO.

Claret is a decent guy that was trying to understand the game.

It's not a question of understanding this game. It's a question of a complete unwillingness to accept the fundamental reliance on basic probability theory that one must have to enjoy ANY text-based sports game.

The question was answered repeatedly, and he kept whining. As someone says, it was if he was going to keep ranting and raving until someone gave him an answer that he liked.

[Subby]

thank you,

and some of you wonder why people stay clear and don't post on here
I don't wonder. I savor it.

[larrymcg421]

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\dealwithit.txt

[Mistwood19]

It's not a question of understanding this game. It's a question of a complete unwillingness to accept the fundamental reliance on basic probability theory that one must have to enjoy ANY text-based sports game.

The question was answered repeatedly, and he kept whining. As someone says, it was if he was going to keep ranting and raving until someone gave him an answer that he liked.

I agree totally with the fact he should have realized that and put it away but why do people on this board feel the need to beat guys like this up?

This is a great game and there is a lot of great work done by yourself and others on this site that make it more enjoyable but it is disturbing to see that if you make one wrong post 15 guys jump on you for being a dumbass.

You did it yourself to me last week for misinterpreting something and now everyone is on Claret.

The world is a f'ed up enough place and there are far bigger problems than people misunderstanding posts on a message board. For most of the guys in leagues I have or do play in consensus is that FOF is a release from reality. This board should mirror that and not be a place you should have to worry about being ridiculed and chastised. I can get that from my boss @ work!!

[Ben E Lou]

You did it yourself to me last week for misinterpreting somethingI did? What?

[Julio Riddols]

All I know is when I ask a question of someone or a group, I try to be open to any and all answers that that person or group might give.

What gets these people riled up around here, Claret, is when people come in and ask a question expecting us all to jump on their side and answer it like they want us to. To top that off, you have this unpleasantness about you that just rubs most of us the wrong way. Honestly, I see you as a belligerent jerk most of the time, simply due to the way you approach asking questions and the way you respond to things when the answers you're looking for don't come. Maybe you're not this type of person, maybe you're far more patient and open minded in real life, but if that is the case, you might need to work on translating that to the message board when you post.

Nobody likes an asshole, and when you come off as one, expect those of us who are more vocal to call you on it and be an asshole right back. It is up to you how to proceed from there.

[larrymcg421]

I agree totally with the fact he should have realized that and put it away but why do people on this board feel the need to beat guys like this up?

This is a great game and there is a lot of great work done by yourself and others on this site that make it more enjoyable but it is disturbing to see that if you make one wrong post 15 guys jump on you for being a dumbass.



It was more than just one post. He was being incredibly stubborn and refusing to listen to anything that we were saying. I asked him more than once about his defensive gameplan, but he completely ignored me. It seemed he was more interested in complaining about the game than getting answers.

[claretonmyshirt]

I have intoduced a few people to FOF and i expect they will introduce a few more and so on and most of them will not go on here and post because they have better things to do than get abused or for fear on having the p-ss ripped out of them

[stevew]

This has to be jbmagic in disguise

[claretonmyshirt]

It was more than just one post. He was being incredibly stubborn and refusing to listen to anything that we were saying. I asked him more than once about his defensive gameplan, but he completely ignored me. It seemed he was more interested in complaining about the game than getting answers.

Thats because i could not get the picture of it to upload, basic bend don't break defence, i did not mean to ignore you and i typed up a lot of what you asked for

[Ben E Lou]

This has to be jbmagic in disguiseOnly if jb has figured out how to spoof an IP in the U.K.

[larrymcg421]

Thats because i could not get the picture of it to upload, basic bend don't break defence, i did not mean to ignore you and i typed up a lot of what you asked for

Bend don't break. 15 of 16 completions. Yes yes, we have a winner.

[claretonmyshirt]

Only if jb has figured out how to spoof an IP in the U.K.

very good, i think maybe you have pushed things a little bit to far, I work for an Anti Virus company in the UK and i can up upload some real nasty things to you if you'd like me to, shall i continue. if you wihto attack my PC then i play that game too

[larrymcg421]

very good, i think maybe you have pushed things a little bit to far, I work for an Anti Virus company in the UK and i can up upload some real nasty things to you if you'd like me to, shall i continue

That was not a wise post. I'd suggest deleting it as soon as possible.

[Ben E Lou]

very good, i think maybe you have pushed things a little bit to far, I work for an Anti Virus company in the UK and i can up upload some real nasty things to you if you'd like me to, shall i continueI'm trembling in my boots.

[Ben E Lou]

FYI, as a matter of course, I run an IP check on anyone who is suspected of being a former banned troll. That's no secret, and neither is the fact that you're in the UK--a fact that you posted yourself. *shurg*

[claretonmyshirt]

That was not a wise post. I'd suggest deleting it as soon as possible.

Fair enough but if people want to attack my PC then i will attack there's in return, I would never attack the site as there are alot of good people on here, but if peopleindividuals want to threaten me then i can do the same back

[Tasan]

very good, i think maybe you have pushed things a little bit to far, I work for an Anti Virus company in the UK and i can up upload some real nasty things to you if you'd like me to, shall i continue. if you wihto attack my PC then i play that game too

OOooo wow this has taken a turn for the worse. The forum mod, who can see anyone's IP, was merely stating that you are not the person one of the other posters indicated you might be by saying that you and he do not share the same IP block. In return you get all threaten-y. Nice. Just glad I posted this before you get banninated.

Hey SD, when you see his post and ban him, could you take a sec and swing by the OneNDone thread and see about my little request? Thanks ;- )

[Senator]

Far enough but if people want to attack my PC then i will attack there's in return, I would not attack the site as there are alot of good people on here, but if people ant to threaten me then i can do the same back

BaboonHeart would scoreboard you if he so desired.

[Ben E Lou]

Make sure you upload the virus to C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\

[claretonmyshirt]

As i said earlier i am quite happy and expecting to be chucked off the site, if indiviudals want to threaten me with spoofing my IP Address then i can attack that individual back.

So once again its alright for one person to threaten my PC but when i do it in return its a different matter

seems fair

[larrymcg421]

As i said earlier i am quite happy and expecting to be chucked off the site, if indiviudals want to threaten me with spoofing my IP Address then i can attack that individual back.

So once again its alright for one person to threaten my PC but when i do it in return its a different matter

seems fair

No one spoofed your IP address and no one threatened to do it. What is the matter with you?

[claretonmyshirt]

and if do get banned, i have a laptop and access to a whole lot of PC's at work all with floating IP address's

Fuck sake all i did was ask some questions, like i say and you wonder why people stay away from posting on here

[Ben E Lou]

As i said earlier i am quite happy and expecting to be chucked off the site, if indiviudals want to threaten me with spoofing my IP Address then i can attack that individual back.

So once again its alright for one person to threaten my PC but when i do it in return its a different matter

seems fair
Given your inability/refusal to accept/understand the responses to your original question, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your inability/refusal to accept/understand what I was saying there. No one threatened to spoof your IP. Someone suggested that you are jbmagic, a banned troll. My response was saying that the only way that jbmagic=longnamedguyfromtheuk is if jb is spoofing an IP address in the UK.

[Chubby]

I'd love to see where someone threatened to hack this guys comp.

HAHAHA who is viewing this thread...

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[Tasan]

and if do get banned, i have a laptop and access to a whole lot of PC's at work all with floating IP address's

Fuck sake all i did was ask some questions, like i say and you wonder why people stay away from posting on here

AAAAAAAAAAaaaaa! Who threaded anything on you? Good lord man, please please be reasonable. And as stated a million times, your question was answered, but not how you wanted it to be, so you argued. Right or wrong, thats not gonna get a good response typically from internet message boards in general.

[Tasan]

I'd love to see where someone threatened to hack this guys comp.

HAHAHA who is viewing this thread...

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jb is clearly taking notes.

[larrymcg421]

and if do get banned, i have a laptop and access to a whole lot of PC's at work all with floating IP address's

Fuck sake all i did was ask some questions, like i say and you wonder why people stay away from posting on here

You really went off the deep end here. No one threatened you. It did not happen. Please reread what was said.

I was actually about to ask you to post some info on your downs and distances % and your coverage schemes since we seemed to finally have figured out the root cause of your problem.

If the people staying away are this mentally unstable, then I'm glad us assholes are scaring them off.

[claretonmyshirt]

Given your inability/refusal to accept/understand the responses to your original question, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your inability/refusal to accept/understand what I was saying there. No one threatened to spoof your IP. Someone suggested that you are jbmagic, a banned troll. My response was saying that the only way that jbmagic=longnamedguyfromtheuk is if jb is spoofing an IP address in the UK.

Well it came across that was what you where going to , if i got it wrong and it seems maybe I did then i apoligize to you, but all i have had from vrious people is abuse and i am not going to be called name after name etc and sit and take it

[Chubby]

Well it came across that was what you where going to , if i got it wrong and it seems maybe I did then i apoligize to you, but all i have had from vrious people is abuse and i am not going to be called name after name etc and sit and take it


Because clearly the correct course of action is to threaten to upload viruses to Skydog's computer simply because you can't read.

[Joe]

WTF

[claretonmyshirt]

You really went off the deep end here. No one threatened you. It did not happen. Please reread what was said.

I was actually about to ask you to post some info on your downs and distances % and your coverage schemes since we seemed to finally have figured out the root cause of your problem.

If the people staying away are this mentally unstable, then I'm glad us assholes are scaring them off.

I never called you an arse hole, i think i tried to answer the questions you aksed of me, i can not get the game plan to upload (i.e picture of it i can get it into word but not on here) and to be honest i expect you would help but others would just then try and rip the piss out of me more

[Chubby]

I never called you an arse hole, i think i tried to answer the questions you aksed of me, i can not get the game plan to upload (i.e picture of it i can get it into word but not on here) and to be honest i expect you would help but others would just then try and rip the piss out of me more

I need some jb-translation on this one...

[BrianD]

Because clearly the correct course of action is to threaten to upload viruses to Skydog's computer simply because you can't read.

Has anyone ever done a study as to what percentage of people on the Internet who are quick to feel threatened also happen to work for Virus companies or are professional hackers? Seems like we get this around here fairly often.

[Senator]

I need you to sample, let's say, 100 games, of similar circumstances and then give us the data.

Thx. See you then.

[Chubby]

Has anyone ever done a study as to what percentage of people on the Internet who are quick to feel threatened also happen to work for Virus companies or are professional hackers? Seems like we get this around here fairly often.

Quicksand said it was 2/3

[Mistwood19]

I did? What?

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=62697

But afterward I IM'ed you and we cleared the air. I'm only pointing it out as a point that people misread and misunderstand things.

[larrymcg421]

Since alot of people are bound to read this thread now, I might as well post the solution I had come up with....

*He mentioned it was a "bend don't break defense", which tells me lots of nickel packages leading to a great running day for flu boy.

*He probably also played lots of zone. Since he mentioned the other guy hadn't uploaded, he probably used an AI gameplan, which calls for tons of screen and short passes. These are easy to complete against such a defense.

*There were probably some bad dice rolls, too.

[Julio Riddols]

Dude. How would you have uploaded those viruses if you can't even post a screen capture?

upload your screens for your defensive gameplan to a hosting site somewhere, then use the http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/styles/habitue/editor/insertimage.gif
button and put the url of the pictures you uploaded in when it asks you to.

[larrymcg421]

If he does work for such a company, I doubt they'd be happy to hear he is using company materials to make threats on a message board.

"Kyle, please tell us about Hornsmaniac."

[Julio Riddols]

As a side note, I am glad the blackjack thread was linked from here.. That shit was hilarious.

[claretonmyshirt]

Since alot of people are bound to read this thread now, I might as well post the solution I had come up with....

*He mentioned it was a "bend don't break defense", which tells me lots of nickel packages leading to a great running day for flu boy.

*He probably also played lots of zone. Since he mentioned the other guy hadn't uploaded, he probably used an AI gameplan, which calls for tons of screen and short passes. These are easy to complete against such a defense.

*There were probably some bad dice rolls, too.

The run was not that great an issue although I was hardly jumping with joy considering his OL, as I said all the way through, it was not one partiuclar element, i.e his run, or pass, or my pass, it was that everything went soo badly, if i was in the right D and had double coverage he completed, if went run he made runs, basically what ever happened he executed the play

Actually i used very little zone with this team about 20%, mostly B@R in slight pass, dropping back to man and a bit of zone in pass situations.

The Game plan was completly my plan

His passing stats where so he mixed it up
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[Julio Riddols]

you should post the game log, complete with formations. Then we can see exactly what you were doing and what he was doing.

[Tasan]

As a side note, I am glad the blackjack thread was linked from here.. That shit was hilarious.

Oh yeah, that link was golden, I missed a bunch for a few months there.

[claretonmyshirt]

you should post the game log, complete with formations. Then we can see exactly what you were doing and what he was doing.

I would if i knew how to :rolleyes:

[Joe]

but the first post says you know what you are doing

[Julio Riddols]

Ok, never mind then.

[claretonmyshirt]

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[Vinatieri for Prez]

I am really disappointed in myself. I was way too nice to start with using only "asshat" in my comment. However, I will refrain from jumping any further into the fray after this.

I still can't believe any of you are interested in helping figure this out since it was based on a single game outcome. What a complete waste of time. Based on spunkonmyshirt's posts, I doubt he even knows what the hell he was doing with his gameplan. I mean, so far, despite numerous requests he still can't tell anyone (screenshot or not) what his defensive gameplan actually was; other than to tell us he saved it on his C drive.

[larrymcg421]

I would if i knew how to :rolleyes:

You're going to upload a virus, but you can't manage Alt-C, Alt-V?

[larrymcg421]

I am really disappointed in myself. I was way too nice to start with using only "asshat" in my comment. However, I will refrain from jumping any further into the fray after this.

I still can't believe any of you are interested in helping figure this out since it was based on a single game outcome. What a complete waste of time. Based on spunkonmyshirt's posts, I doubt he even knows what the hell he was doing with his gameplan. I mean, so far, despite numerous requests he still can't tell anyone (screenshot or not) what his defensive gameplan actually was; other than to tell us he saved it on his C drive.

Wasn't doing it to help him out, but for anyone else that comes along to read what I expect to be a very popular thread.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

SD,

Would it be possible to actually report this guy's IP address so that certain authorities can take him to task on not only threatening to upload a virus but trying to do it (if he actually does).

[Ben E Lou]

I don't think he was actually trying to upload a virus there.

[Joe]

report him to interpol

[AlexB]

Or the UK version - Editors

[Julio Riddols]

What a wild ride. You sarky bollox just made him so upset he left the eNFL. Anyone want to take his team over and maybe get a look at the defensive gameplan?

[Tasan]

What a wild ride. You sarky bollox just made him so upset he left the eNFL. Anyone want to take his team over and maybe get a look at the defensive gameplan?

No, that team is obviously crap. I mean, come on, how can it possibly allow John Beck to go 15-16 and get run all over? That just could never happen.

[sovereignstar]

These forums seem more suited for you, laddy.

http://community.sigames.com

[claretonmyshirt]

What a wild ride. You sarky bollox just made him so upset he left the eNFL. Anyone want to take his team over and maybe get a look at the defensive gameplan?

Uploaded a new game plan courtesy of the AI, good team actually just the stud QB is out for 27 weeks and it was a different team that the fins beat

OL is all rated over 50, most of them 60+

2 DT's rated 80 and 90

2 LBs rated 87 and 67

Good group of young WR's and a 67 rated TE

and most of the future draft picks in place

[Antmeister]

He quit the eNFL because he was frustrated here? He threatens to send a computer virus, but is unable to do a screen capture? This thread is awesome! More claretonmyshirt please!

[Raiders Army]

Is England the UK? Don't you have your own queen? Would wanker be applicable to this situation?

[sidthelid]

Is England the UK? Don't you have your own queen? Would wanker be applicable to this situation?

Nice to see you have a good understanding of Geography, i hope all the Brits enjoy your humour! I think there is a fair few of them who use this forum

[Joe]

England is not the UK

[sidthelid]

England is not the UK

I was kind of suggesting that very sarcastically !!!

[AlexB]

Is England the UK? Don't you have your own queen? Would wanker be applicable to this situation?

In effect?... yes (sorry Ryan S, but it's true ;) )
Yes. But i really struggle to see the relevance
Yes - absolutely. The c word also fits, especially with 'dumb' in front of it

claret - you started off with a not totally unreasonable question, but with an extremlely shaky justification. When advised of the flimsy evidence, you turned ostrich, and tbh deserve everything you get from then on given your reactions.

This board is not completely unreasonable, but treats an inability to listen to evidence with a reasonable disdain...

[RedKingGold]

I just want to know what the user name "claretonmyshirt" means?

[Vinatieri for Prez]

This board is not completely unreasonable, but treats an inability to listen to evidence with a reasonable disdain...

Very true. This board is extremely helpful to those with reasonable questions and without incorrect, unreasonable assumptions they refuse to abandon. Those without the former but with the latter will be treated harshly, as so they should.

It is clear the original question was not a question at all but a disguised rant. He knew the answer was bad dice rolls going in, but specifically asked for an answer that wasn't it. I really cannot see how he could have expected the reaction here to be any different. Then to off on SD and threaten to unleash a virus is quite ridiculous.

[Joe]

I just want to know what the user name "claretonmyshirt" means?

Maurice Claret [sic] took a crap on his shirt.

[sidthelid]

do i take it then there's a fair bit of luck in the game (sorry if thats a newbie ?)

[FFL Buffalo Bills]

Why can't I post

[FFL Buffalo Bills]

What the hell i had a nice explanation for bloodonmyshirt...

Hey Clare..
It's Rob from FFL aka Marv.....
"You thought who you thought they were and ya letum off the hook"
or
Bad Dice Roll

[larrymcg421]

do i take it then there's a fair bit of luck in the game (sorry if thats a newbie ?)

Luck is certainly factor, as it should be in any game, but I don't think it's too big a factor in FOF. Also, I don't think this situation is merely bad dice rolls. I think we've got a faulty gameplan. The immediate mistake is playing a bend don't break defense against a shitty QB. Why would you do that?

[sidthelid]

seems you did kind of beat up on the guy, i will be very careful how i ask questions as a newbie :D

[FFL Buffalo Bills]

Clare your little outburst with the virus threat has me pissed...I hope the virus I caught back in Nov didn't come from you because I researched the virus and It is best known around your neck of the woods

[FFL Buffalo Bills]

Wow!

Scorecards from the judges:
9.8
10.0
10.0
9.7
5.0 (I think this last vote is from judge jbmagic).


Perfect 10's across the board

[Joe]

seems you did kind of beat up on the guy, i will be very careful how i ask questions as a newbie :D

just don't be an ass like that other guy

[RedKingGold]

What the hell i had a nice explanation for bloodonmyshirt...

Hey Clare..
It's Rob from FFL aka Marv.....
"You thought who you thought they were and ya letum off the hook"
or
Bad Dice Roll

I don't really understand what's going on in this thread, but this post needed an obligatory Denny Green pic:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/Nooch_2006/061017_dennis_green.jpg

[Front Office Midget]

WOW... I come to FOFC and think, "Wow, 137 posts, how have I never seen this thread before?"

I was stunned when I saw it was started a couple days ago. What a roller coaster ride this was.

[Tormaz]

I just want to know what the user name "claretonmyshirt" means?


Claret in England is slang for blood

[RedKingGold]

Claret in England is slang for blood

Does this have anything to do with the "period dance" in SuperBad?

[Julio Riddols]

Maybe for a midget. No offense meant to any midgets out there.

To anyone who is apprehensive at all about asking questions here in the future, all that is really expected is that you be reasonable and have an open mind. 99% of the time if you try to understand, the people here will go every inch of the way trying to help. But if you disregard the advice given or refuse to accept it, it is likely to be treated with a nice helping of disdain.

Claret was very quick to jump on the defensive and seemed to generally misunderstand or ignore or refuse to believe everything he was given for an answer, and thusly made enemies quickly.

Re-reading this thread or any of the threads linked from it will give you a general idea of what not to do here.

[tarcone]

A new reference thread?

[Sgran]

Okay, I've now read every post in this thread. i think we really need to get back to the crux of the matter: the Vikings had several injuries on defense and were clearly just playing out the string at the end of the season. Credit for those 275 yards had nothing to do with whether or not Walter had the flu, but to the fact that the Vikings had no answer for the huge holes opened up by Roland Harper.

[Dutch]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was definately hooked here...

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html

So explain how the rookie inexperienced QB stepped up when his stats b4 today where att123 comp63 3tds, 9ints and a rating well below 50

Not understanding the internet...no problem. Not understanding the internet, being pissed off to holy hell, and then posting a link to your fucking hard drive on a message board? That's just so great. Seriously.

[Ben E Lou]

Not understanding the internet, being pissed off to holy hell, and then posting a link to your fucking hard drive on a message board? That's just so great. Seriously.

I was giggling uncontrollably for close to two solid minutes when that gem was posted.

[Lorena]

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html

So explain how the rookie inexperienced QB stepped up when his stats b4 today where att123 comp63 3tds, 9ints and a rating well below 50

very good, i think maybe you have pushed things a little bit to far, I work for an Anti Virus company in the UK and i can up upload some real nasty things to you if you'd like me to, shall i continue. if you wihto attack my PC then i play that game too

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
oh shit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D :D :D

OMG, that was awesome!!

[Hammer]

Almost as unbelievable as a QB that hasn't started a game in 10 years leading a team to the playoffs with a 100+ QB rating over the last 4 games.

[Rizon]

I'm hereby giving this thread the "Classic" title. Let it forever be known as one.

[Raiders Army]

It's too bad this isn't in General Discussion. A lot of people are missing this gold.

[JeeberD]

Good lord, how have I missed this thread?!?

[NoMyths]

*claps* (tm)

[MJ4H]

Why can't I post

i duno

[EagleFan]

Gold!!!! Pure Gold!!!!

This would be like a practically unknown running back rushing for 200 yards in the Super Bowl and then never being heard from again. Timmy Smith!!! Paging Timmy Smith!!!

Super Bowl 22:
22 carries, 204 yards, 2 TD

Rest of his career:
184 carries, 596 yards, 3 TD

[JeffNights]

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe\lastboxlog.html




BEST. POST. EVER.

[korme]

Gold!!!! Pure Gold!!!!

This would be like a practically unknown running back rushing for 200 yards in the Super Bowl and then never being heard from again. Timmy Smith!!! Paging Timmy Smith!!!

Super Bowl 22:
22 carries, 204 yards, 2 TD

Rest of his career:
184 carries, 596 yards, 3 TD

Timmy Smith was a god damn superBoom for me in my Hist. Replay for solo... he went from a decent backup RB to after 8 years to booming to something crazy like 89/89

[Izulde]

Timmy Smith was a god damn superBoom for me in my Hist. Replay for solo... he went from a decent backup RB to after 8 years to booming to something crazy like 89/89

What year class does he come in?

[Izulde]

I was giggling uncontrollably for close to two solid minutes when that gem was posted.

I'm -still- laughing from having read that pot.

[Izulde]

trola,

err post. The boxscore post.

[korme]

What year class does he come in?

Not positive as I lost that entire universe (for shame), but I believe the mid-late 80's

[Suicane75]

I have no idea what's going on over the last page and half or so of this thread, and I promised myself i would not make any extraneous posts in this forum, but damn.

[Chief Rum]

Given your inability/refusal to accept/understand the responses to your original question, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your inability/refusal to accept/understand what I was saying there. No one threatened to spoof your IP. Someone suggested that you are jbmagic, a banned troll. My response was saying that the only way that jbmagic=longnamedguyfromtheuk is if jb is spoofing an IP address in the UK.

Hi Ben,

His user name is claretonmyshirt. Just thought to help out. Peace. :p

[Chief Rum]

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So, was this the virus upload attempt?

[stevew]

Hey Ben, can you upload my Woof export for me? It's right here.

C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\export\WOOFWOOF.028

[Passacaglia]

So, was this the virus upload attempt?

I think he was trying to paste a boxscore into his post.

[Sgran]

I'm still loving the post where he discredited Walter Payton's record setting day because he had such a great team around him. Does anyone remember if Bob Avellini or Mike Phipps started that game?

[jamesUMD]

I am in this league as Atlanta</ST1:p. My take as a partial observer:
1. John Beck has decent potential, and in the game as in real life, guys can play above their current skill level.
2. Ronnie Brown is averaging 6.38 yards per carry this season on 124 totes
3. Coming into this game he ran for 127, 129, 156, 163 (against <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/ /><st1:City w:st=<ST1http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/ /><st1:City w:st=<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = " /><st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDenver</ST1:p</st1:City>), and then 104. It wasn’t like this was an anomaly. He is 2<SUP>nd</SUP> in the league in rushing (43 yards behind LT). Obviously the coach has a game plan in use that maximizes Brown’s running.
4. <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDenver</ST1:p</st1:City>’s defense has only held an opponent under 20 points 1 time and gave up scores of 30, 31, 35, and 38 through 7 games.
5. <ST1:p<st1:City w:st="on">Denver</st1:City></ST1:p fell behind 17-0, got an 86 yard TD, and then was behind 24-7 at the half.
6. Their Cohesion is G (pass),VG (oline), G (dline), and G (secondary)
7. <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDenver's</ST1:p</st1:City> offense is 26<SUP>th</SUP> in rushing and 6<SUP>th</SUP> passing
8. Defense is 24<SUP>th</SUP> rushing and 21<SUP>st</SUP> in passing
9. <st1:City w:st="on">Denver</st1:City> in the game: 2 Interceptions (1 at the <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pMiami</ST1:p</st1:City> 11 yard line), 3 fumbles (1 lost), and a missed FG.
10. Diagnosis: <st1:City w:st="on">Denver</st1:City> made enough mistakes/bad plays early to short circuit drives and gave <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pMiami</ST1:p</st1:City> great field position which they took advantage of. <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDenver </ST1:p</st1:City>is essentially 1 dimensional, and given the score the Dolphins game plan switched to specifically shut that one dimension down, and yes the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> half was 1 giant dose of Ronnie Brown toting the rock. <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pMiami</ST1:p</st1:City> held the ball 36:20 TOP to 23:40. <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pDenver</ST1:p</st1:City>’s defense was on the field too long and just got wore down. It happens.
<O:p</O:p
As a gm in the league, to a certain extentit appears to be someone looking selectively at the statistics rather than as a whole. Just my thoughts.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Well, that's the perfect post to end it. Thanks. Not surprising in the least.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I am sorry but i had flu about 4 weeks back and i was terrible for 2 weeks and there is no way that he could run that many times with it and gain 4ypc behind a line that had flu as well.


I agree the attempted post of the game log is probably the winner, but this one was still pretty good.

[Ben E Lou]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/76/Michael_jackson_bad_cd_cover_1987_cdda.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1305996/article_images/dice.jpg
http://utopiankitchen.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cinnamon-rolls1.jpg.

[fantastic flying froggies]

I'm not quite sure why the bump, but reading this thread, even so many months later, brought tears of laughter to my eyes... :D

[TheMeat]

bad dice rolls!! i get it!1!

I laughed out loud just from readin the last page of this thread and seeing that he'd pasted his box score like that. A good time missed by me for sure.

[larrymcg421]

Ah, good memories. Nothing more priceless than a guy who knows so little about computers that he posts a link to his desktop, but then thinks he can threaten people with a computer virus.

[MrDNA]

Ben just wanted to see that classic photo montage. Ah, memories.

[Benzhiyi]

I only come one these boards, like, twice a year (love FOF still though) and even though it's eight months old this thread really brightened up my Friday afternoon. Just read it from start to finish, so many laugh out loud moments. Great stuff. :lol:

(Sorry for the bump but it had to be said. This is a classic.)

[Skolleck]

This was a classic, I actually have this *cough* great *cough* GM's team in the eNFL and we are 5-2 now. He was not bad at collecting talent, but his game plans must have sucked royal balls, and this out of poor game planner (me).

[kislingbury]

For what its worth, if anyone is still unsure/bothered, Claret On My Shirt is a footy song over here sometimes sung by each of the League teams that play in Claret (Villa, West Ham, Burnley) to the tune of "3 Lions".

PS
great thread.

[beargrowlz]

I wonder where he went off to. He was in the CyFL, got in a fight with the commissioner and left. He was always bringing stuff up like this.

Was always a fun read.



Cheers,
-Bear

[Ben E Lou]

...got in a fight with the commissioner...Shocker there. :p

[jking47]

Shocker there. :p


Yes, big shocker. claretonmyshirt, aka Kailan, has been a great read in a couple leagues I'm in. I almost wish he didn't get kicked out of one and quit the other... almost..... :D

Awesome read. I missed this in the past and was just directed here by a fellow commish.

[Firefly]

The game he was talking about was not from the eNFL, it was from the CFL. I just discovered this thread, but I remember the league thread perfectly from back then. It wasn't nearly as funny as this one. In fact, it wasn't funny at all. :(

I was the guy's buddy before he quit the CFL and the AUFL, and I hope he can, in time, re-read this thread and laugh his ass off. He's really a good guy, you know. Losing drives him raving mad, that's all. In every sense of the word. But I swear he's a good guy.

[jking47]

The game he was talking about was not from the eNFL, it was from the CFL. I just discovered this thread, but I remember the league thread perfectly from back then. It wasn't nearly as funny as this one. In fact, it wasn't funny at all. :(

I was the guy's buddy before he quit the CFL and the AUFL, and I hope he can, in time, re-read this thread and laugh his ass off. He's really a good guy, you know. Losing drives him raving mad, that's all. In every sense of the word. But I swear he's a good guy.


I dunno firefly. I was in two leagues with him and he was damn near intolerable at times. He always need to be patted on the back, and heaven forbid he was ever corrected in a discussion. He would write semi-decent articles, and if the league didn't orgasm over his post he would pout.

I could probably list at least a dozen threads that showed him having seriously childish debate (if you can call it that) with other owners. For what it's worth, I don't think he will ever be able to look back and laugh at any of this stuff.

and this comes from a guy that tried to give him a chance at the beginning, trying to be a peacemaker....

[Hedgehog]

Wasn't he the Broncos in the CFL. If I remember right, I picked up some nice first rounders for under performers. I remember him complaining about this game in the league but never knew that he took it all the way to this forum. WOW!!! That was an interesting read...love the dice picture.

[Firefly]

He also used to change his nick all the time. The one I liked best was Mr. Jazz in the aufl. That's probably where you know him from, jking, although he was also, I believe in the FFL, or maybe he still is.

I know he had serious issues, but I'll say this for him: he knew it too. I used to talk to him about it a lot, but it was too strong for him. I hope he'll get over them one day.

[jking47]

He also used to change his nick all the time. The one I liked best was Mr. Jazz in the aufl. That's probably where you know him from, jking, although he was also, I believe in the FFL, or maybe he still is.

I know he had serious issues, but I'll say this for him: he knew it too. I used to talk to him about it a lot, but it was too strong for him. I hope he'll get over them one day.

I wasn't around in the previous instance of the AUFL, so I missed him there. I first met him in the FFL, and then had him around for about two a two week stint in the RNFL - Cowboys in both leagues.

I hope things work out for him...

[flair1234]

I wasn't around in the previous instance of the AUFL, so I missed him there. I first met him in the FFL, and then had him around for about two a two week stint in the RNFL - Cowboys in both leagues.

I hope things work out for him...

Why don't you lay off Kalian. He is a welcome and interesting contributor to our league, and we are happy to have him.

[muns]

Sorry for this bump, but its been a boring day at work, and I was reading the threads in here and this one came up. Boy am I glad that I clicked on this bad boy!!!! This provided me with some great entertainment on a crappy day and hope it does for others as well. Classic Classic Classic!!!!