Finally, the Britney Spears Crazy Train pulls into the Station..

[SirFozzie]

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jAG82-sc5eD0RMnt8jcstIN0MHlw

Police and medical personnel wheeled Britney Spears out of her Malibu home last night on a gurney and in restraints. They were called to her house at around 11:00 pm PT due to the bodyguard of Kevin Federline arriving at the home to pick up K-Fed and Britney's 2 young children. Britney refused to hand them over and locked herself and her youngest child Jayden James in a bathroom. At some point, her oldest, Sean Preston, was escorted out of the house either by police or by her cousin and former assistant Allie Sims and her current assistant Carla. She had a standoff with police for over 2 hours before finally being talked into coming out. Police sources say that she was under the influence of an unknown substance.

Sources are reporting that Britney Spears is now under suicide watch at Cedar Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. She is going to be held for 72 hours at the hospital while police go over possible charges against her (kidnapping, drug possession, violating a court order, etc).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Well that's one way to knock her sister out of the headlines.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I thought her Crazy Train pulled into the station when she shaved her head bald and attacked that car with the umbrella.

[SirFozzie]

I thought her Crazy Train pulled into the station when she shaved her head bald and attacked that car with the umbrella.

Yeah, but this is the final stop on the Crazy Train, I think. (at least for now)

[bulletsponge]

what kind of person sends "hired help" to go pick up thier children from thier mother?

[Dr. Sak]

I actually feel bad for her. I think she needs some serious help not only with her addiction but her mental problems that could have been a result of the drugs. I understand the whole bit about her popularity causing all this media attention but I hope they just leave her alone so she can get the help she needs without all the scrutiny.

Ok I'm off the box now.

[Pumpy Tudors]

They were called to her house at around 11:00 pm PT due to the bodyguard of Kevin Federline arriving at the home to pick up K-Fed and Britney's 2 young children.
I originally read this to mean that the bodyguard was not only picking up the children, but he was picking up Federline, too.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I actually feel bad for her. I think she needs some serious help not only with her addiction but her mental problems that could have been a result of the drugs. I understand the whole bit about her popularity causing all this media attention but I hope they just leave her alone so she can get the help she needs without all the scrutiny.

Ok I'm off the box now.

Agreed. It's bad enough for my ego when my wife points out that I acted like an idiot on a given occasion. I can only imagine how it feels to have millions know every time you screw up in a given situation. It probably would drive me crazy as well.

[Kodos]

Especially when you screw up majorly at some point in just about every week.

[Mustang]

Yeah, but this is the final stop on the Crazy Train, I think. (at least for now)


Sorry but, Spears is on the Trans-Siberian Crazy Train and she's only just rolled into Novosibirsk..

[rkmsuf]

*sob*

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

*sob*

[14ers]

what kind of person sends "hired help" to go pick up thier children from thier mother?I don't understand your question here?

IF you knew every time you and your Ex got together it was going to result in a huge fight, why wouldn't you have a 3rd party take the children back and fourth? I think it is pretty smart of Kevin Federline to do everything he can to avoid Brintey. Why risk a huge fight scene in front of the children?

[path12]

Really, who ever thought that K-Fed would end up being the responsible one?

Or I guess I should say more responsible.

[Marc Vaughan]

I don't understand your question here?

IF you knew every time you and your Ex got together it was going to result in a huge fight, why wouldn't you have a 3rd party take the children back and fourth? I think it is pretty smart of Kevin Federline to do everything he can to avoid Brintey. Why risk a huge fight scene in front of the children?

Yeah I have to agree with that - I'm presuming he was 'on hand' so to speak (likely waiting in a car or similar) .. just trying to avoid a confrontation.

But yes I'm as surprised as anyone that he is actually appearing to be the more mature and sensible out of the couple.

[JediKooter]

There should be a law that says, "No Spears can have kids...at any age."

She's so far gone, I don't even think Gloria Allred would represent her in court.

[Dr. Sak]

It probably would drive me crazy as well.

A little play on one of Britney's Song Titles...good job :)

[oliegirl]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/startracks/080114/britney3_240.jpg


This was the main photo on the People Newsletter this morning. It also made it sound like they had to physically get into the room with force rather than her coming out on her own. Also made it a point to say they "tied her down to a gurney".

So sad, but it's getting a bit ridiculous now.

[Fidatelo]

How did her hair grow back so fast?

[Lathum]

How did her hair grow back so fast?

lol, I thought the same thing

[path12]

How did her hair grow back so fast?

Extensions.

[rkmsuf]

How did her hair grow back so fast?

semen. natures own fertilizer.

[path12]

semen. natures own fertilizer.

Much better answer than mine.

[albionmoonlight]

In unrelated news, Lynn Spears' parenting book is still on hold.

[Anthony]

at this point they should just release the book so people can buy it as a gag-gift.

like if OJ were to put out a book on how to have a long lasting and successful marriage.

[CU Tiger]

Am I a bad person because I still would?

[Young Drachma]

Sad, because that's a hell of a crash and burn.

[Young Drachma]

Good thing Justin got the hell away before it was too late.

[oliegirl]

Good thing Justin got the hell away before it was too late.

Maybe it's JT's fault! Maybe if he'd stayed with her, she wouldn't have started down this shame spiral...he broke her heart and she never recovered!!! Damn that JT and his stupid "SexyBack"...though that is a kick ass song.

;)

[Anthony]

she still makes and spends more money per month than many of us will make in a lifetime.

[rkmsuf]

she's probably had sex more than all of FOFC combined

[Raiders Army]

crazy

[bulletsponge]

she still makes and spends more money per month than many of us will make in a lifetime.

damn, i guess ill have to settle for my dignity and sanity and stable relationships

[Dr. Sak]

she's probably had sex more than all of FOFC combined

That's only true now that Hornsmaniac is no longer part of this community.

[CamEdwards]

That's only true now that Hornsmaniac is no longer part of this community.


Bastard. I didn't see that coming and spit water over my keyboard.

[PilotMan]

Apparently it was Llynn Spears that broke the story about Jamie's pregnancy and was paid a million dollars for the story. How would you like it if you could get paid a mill just for announcing that you were having a baby. Either that, or one low down dirty thing to do to your own kid.

[pennywisesb]

The article posted at the top says it happened in Malibu, but it actually happened in Studio City (part of the city of LA) because my Fire Department resonded (with two of my buddies) to the call and said she was totally jacked up. And yes, they did have to tie her down to the gurney. She needs serious psychiatric help.

[rkmsuf]

wtf
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Britney Spears Rejects Visit From Dr. Phil
Monday , January 07, 2008

By Hollie McKay


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Troubled pop diva Britney Spears reportedly kicked television talk show host "Dr. Phil" McGraw out of her room at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Saturday before being released from the facility later in the day, sources told FOXNews.com.

According to sources, Spears responded angrily when the talk show host entered the room and demanded he leave at once.

McGraw told "Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider" in a press release that Spears still needs psychological help despite being let out of the hospital.

"My meeting with Britney and some family members this morning in her room at Cedars leaves me convinced more than ever that she is in dire need of both medical and psychological intervention," McGraw told the programs.

"She was released moments before my arrival and was packing when I entered the room. We visited for about an hour before I walked with her to her car. I am very concerned for her," he said.

Spears was hospitalized under mysterious circumstances Thursday evening following a standoff with police in which she allegedly refused to hand over her children to her ex-husband Kevin Federline.

On Friday, a court commissioner gave Federline full custody of the two children and suspended Spears’ visitation rights following the incident.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,320506,00.html

[oliegirl]

wtf
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Britney Spears Rejects Visit From Dr. Phil
Monday , January 07, 2008

By Hollie McKay


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Troubled pop diva Britney Spears reportedly kicked television talk show host "Dr. Phil" McGraw out of her room at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Saturday before being released from the facility later in the day, sources told FOXNews.com.

According to sources, Spears responded angrily when the talk show host entered the room and demanded he leave at once.

McGraw told "Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider" in a press release that Spears still needs psychological help despite being let out of the hospital.

"My meeting with Britney and some family members this morning in her room at Cedars leaves me convinced more than ever that she is in dire need of both medical and psychological intervention," McGraw told the programs.

"She was released moments before my arrival and was packing when I entered the room. We visited for about an hour before I walked with her to her car. I am very concerned for her," he said.

Spears was hospitalized under mysterious circumstances Thursday evening following a standoff with police in which she allegedly refused to hand over her children to her ex-husband Kevin Federline.

On Friday, a court commissioner gave Federline full custody of the two children and suspended Spears’ visitation rights following the incident.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,320506,00.html

I'm confused...she kicked him out but then they hung out for an hour and he walked her to her car?????

[MikeVic]

I wouldn't want to meet with that putz either.

[bulletsponge]

1st sane move by britney in a while. btw i dont trust anything that media whore DR Phil says. is he the shrink version of Jesse jackson, sticks his nose in anywhere where he can get media attention?

[PilotMan]

Had to be a PR stunt. I mean, if she really wanted to talk to a shrink I would think she would have called Dr. Drew first. I mean, c'mon people. Drew could kick Phil's ass.

[Lorena]

So Dr. Phil is taking advantage of Britney's situation for media pub? Nice.. I don't blame Britney for kicking him out.

[bhlloy]

I'm sure the first piece of solid psychiatric advice he "offered" was an appearance on his show. Creep.

[BrianD]

I would believe that he went there to offer real help. I'm sure he wanted to be noticed helping, but you don't make that trip without at least being prepared to follow through.

[oliegirl]

According to the article on People.com, he's been kind of involved in this fiasco for the past year. Lynne Spears called him, she is friends with Dr. Phil's wife, and he's been "counseling" the family. He went to the hospital at Lynne's request...

[rkmsuf]

I would believe that he went there to offer real help. I'm sure he wanted to be noticed helping, but you don't make that trip without at least being prepared to follow through.

uh huh, right

[rkmsuf]

According to the article on People.com, he's been kind of involved in this fiasco for the past year. Lynne Spears called him, she is friends with Dr. Phil's wife, and he's been "counseling" the family. He went to the hospital at Lynne's request...

wear some fake hair or somthing then

[bhlloy]

According to the article on People.com, he's been kind of involved in this fiasco for the past year. Lynne Spears called him, she is friends with Dr. Phil's wife, and he's been "counseling" the family. He went to the hospital at Lynne's request...

Great advert for him then... pregnant 16 year old, public breakdown and kidnapping charges and a failed book on parenting.

I can see the ad campaign now... Dr Phil, what's the worst that could happen?

[BrianD]

uh huh, right

What would you expect him to do if he didn't get kicked out? Pick a fight so he does get thrown out, or just leave without doing anything? Either way he looks like more of an ass than he does now.

[rkmsuf]

It's Dr. Phil's baby!

[heybrad]

I'm sure it's standard operating procedure for most psycholigists to hold a press conference and speak with Entertainment Tonight and The Insider after a free consultation.

Way to go Dr Phil. You're a bigger douche bag than I thought.

[Oilers9911]

The hospital should be thoroughly investigated for sending Dr. Douche to her room without her consent as well. He so wants to help her that he wanted to do an on air intervention? What a scumbag.

[thealmighty]

*sob*

LEAVE Dr. PHIL ALONE

*sob*

[Surtt]

I actually feel bad for her. I think she needs some serious help not only with her addiction but her mental problems that could have been a result of the drugs. I understand the whole bit about her popularity causing all this media attention but I hope they just leave her alone so she can get the help she needs without all the scrutiny.


I think this is normal behaver in the trailer park.

[Groundhog]

hxxp://www.whenisbritneygoingtodie.com/

I get the feeling that the winner will be getting his PS3 while it's still current-gen.

[oliegirl]

From TMZ.com:

Unimpeachable sources tell TMZ Brit pitched a fit that she had to attend a deposition in the custody case earlier in the day and she wanted "make-up" time with the kids that evening. Britney had visitation rights with the kids that day. She was supposed to surrender them to K-Daddy at 7:00 PM, but wanted two extra hours. K-Fed and his lawyer, Mark Vincent Kaplan, wouldn't allow it, so she locked herself in the house -- thus the stand-off.

Here are the probs with Brit's theory. First, the reason her depo was set for last Thursday was because she failed to show the day before. Second, Thursday's depo was supposed to begin at 9:45 AM and go until 11:45 AM. She didn't show until 11:32, so the depo lasted less than 15 minutes. We've learned she only had visitation rights that day between noon and 7 PM. The depo ended at 11:45 and her house was only 15 minutes away. So she really didn't lose any time with the kids.

Looks like she is going to have to do some more "creative thinking" to wiggle out of this one...hope she has enough brain cells left to come up with a plausable theory for why she did what she did.

Seriously, I hope she gets a crazy big bill that insurance won't cover for the cost of the manpower, ambulance, etc for her little stunt. I'm all for helping people, but she has been in and out of rehab, offered help over and over again, and she just keeps going and getting more outrageous. My days of having sympathy for her are just about over.

[rkmsuf]

Spears shocks shoppers with striptease

Last Update: 1/15 3:41 pm

Britney Spears (Getty Images/File) Britney Spears stunned sales staff at a Betsey Johnson store in Sherman Oaks, California on Sunday when she stepped out of a fitting room completely naked.
A day before Spears' bizarre antics outside a Los Angeles courthouse cost her visitation rights to her young son for a month, the singer was stripping in front of shoppers.

Spears and her paparazzi boyfriend Adnan Ghalib caused a stir at the upmarket store upon their arrival, and as trendy shoppers watched, Spears grabbed a Betsey Johnson dress and took it to a fitting room.

But when she re-appeared, she wasn't wearing the dress or what she had on when she entered the store.

One store employee who witnessed Spears' shocking display tells Life & Style magazine, "I was blown away. Britney's private parts were right in front of me!

"I grabbed a dress to cover her and she screamed, 'Get away from me! Don't you *****ng come near me!'"

Witnesses allege Spears and Ghalib then spent more than 30 minutes alone in one of the store's fitting rooms before the singer stumbled out, mumbling unintelligibly.

Another employee says, "I couldn't understand a word she was saying. She was slurring and spitting, and talking with a British accent... I wanted to help her, but she was so mean that I left her alone."

The bizarre scene at Betsey Johnson came during a weekend when Spears was spotted out and about with her new man, wearing one of the dresses she wore when she wed Kevin Federline in 2004.

She returned to the area after her bizarre Los Angeles Superior Court antics on Monday for more craziness - she took an army of paparazzi into a nearby church and insisted on sitting in silence for just over two minutes.

hxxp://www.abcactionnews.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=e5b7a814-9a8e-4e9f-8479-2381058abdd8&hahah

[Anthony]

unless there's actual proof of her in that store in her bday suit, i don't believe it.


if she woulda showed the whole world her privates (since she has 24/7 paparazzi following her) she woulda done it long ago in Playboy and made millions for doing so.

[General Mike]

:rolleyes:

:(

[cartman]

unless there's actual proof of her in that store in her bday suit, i don't believe it.


There are some pics out there documenting the event.

[JediKooter]

What the hell did Dr. Phil do to her???

[Apathetic Lurker]

There are some pics out there documenting the event.

directions to pix plz! I have never witnessed a trainwreck before

[st.cronin]

This will not end well.

[oliegirl]

According to TMZ, a complaint has been filed with the CA Board of Psychology stating that Dr. Phil was illegally practicing without a license when he went to visit Britney. Supposedly he has never been licensed in CA, only in TX, and he let that license expire/retire in 2006. The complaint also states that Dr. Phil violated HIPAA laws when he discussed Britney's state of mind, condition, etc...via a press release.

[Julio Riddols]

How far can a person go before they are forcibly institutionalized? She is going beyond anything Michael Jackson ever did that was "out there" and just running around inarguably crazy out of her mind. The people in her "paparazzi entourage" should all be shot for just letting another human basically kill herself slowly in public. I mean, she has done her part by going completely batshit insane, but WTF?

Isn't there some sort of limit to this? Its gone beyond funny and laughable to sick and depressing.

[Galaxy]

According to TMZ, a complaint has been filed with the CA Board of Psychology stating that Dr. Phil was illegally practicing without a license when he went to visit Britney. Supposedly he has never been licensed in CA, only in TX, and he let that license expire/retire in 2006. The complaint also states that Dr. Phil violated HIPAA laws when he discussed Britney's state of mind, condition, etc...via a press release.

Dr. Phil is a douche. I have a feeling he likes the women, depsite his marriage to Robin.

[cartman]

According to TMZ, a complaint has been filed with the CA Board of Psychology stating that Dr. Phil was illegally practicing without a license when he went to visit Britney. Supposedly he has never been licensed in CA, only in TX, and he let that license expire/retire in 2006. The complaint also states that Dr. Phil violated HIPAA laws when he discussed Britney's state of mind, condition, etc...via a press release.

I think it has to be an either/or call. They can't claim that he's not a doctor, and also claim he violated HIPPA. He would have to be a licensed doctor to have violated HIPPA. (I've been spending a lot of time recently at work getting caught up on all sorts of regulatory issues surrounding data transfer)

[cartman]

directions to pix plz! I have never witnessed a trainwreck before

Since I can't post a direct link, there is a website that has starpulse in between the www and the dot com.

[Izulde]

Since I can't post a direct link, there is a website that has starpulse in between the www and the dot com.

Didn't find it there.

[Lorena]

So the papparazi guy spent 30 minutes in the fitting room and she came out naked and disoriented? If he truly, TRULY cared for her, he would try and help her not give her something to get her all looney and shit. It's clear the guy is with her for future book deals, interviews, etc and how much money he can get out of this relationship. Who knows what kind of pictures this guy has when she's been out of it.

Ugh, what a vile human being.

[oliegirl]

So the papparazi guy spent 30 minutes in the fitting room and she came out naked and disoriented? If he truly, TRULY cared for her, he would try and help her not give her something to get her all looney and shit. It's clear the guy is with her for future book deals, interviews, etc and how much money he can get out of this relationship. Who knows what kind of pictures this guy has when she's been out of it.

Ugh, what a vile human being.

I think that they went into the dressing room together after she came out naked...at least that's how I read it.

But yeah, either way, he's vile...perfect word DC!

[Apathetic Lurker]

Didn't find it there.

ditto

[Dr. Sak]

Do a google non safe search for "Britney Spears dressing room". That's how i found them.

Wasn't impressed.

[cartman]

Sorry, wrong celeb site.


Try putting e g o t a s t i c between the www and dot com.

[stevew]

Both of you fail. Those are from this past june I believe

[Lorena]

I think that they went into the dressing room together after she came out naked...at least that's how I read it.

But yeah, either way, he's vile...perfect word DC!

Yeah you're right, I misread. Well I hope he went in there to talk some sense into her, but who knows.

Poor girl, if an overdose of drugs don't kill her, the media will drive her to kill herself by other methods. Ugh, so sad :(

[Anthony]

those aren't the most recent pics, pertaining to the latest article. those pics you find when you google "Britney Spears dressing room" are from a previous dressing room routine, back in 2007.

[Axxon]

I think it has to be an either/or call. They can't claim that he's not a doctor, and also claim he violated HIPPA. He would have to be a licensed doctor to have violated HIPPA. (I've been spending a lot of time recently at work getting caught up on all sorts of regulatory issues surrounding data transfer)

I don't think that's technically true. I worked at a hospital an all staff had to protect patient confidentiality or it was a breach of HIPPA, whether we were doctor's or not.

I couldn't just go into the waiting room and go 'Mr. cartman, the doctor will see you about your raging case of herpes' for example since that would violate HIPPA.

[cartman]

I don't think that's technically true. I worked at a hospital an all staff had to protect patient confidentiality or it was a breach of HIPPA, whether we were doctor's or not.

I couldn't just go into the waiting room and go 'Mr. cartman, the doctor will see you about your raging case of herpes' for example since that would violate HIPPA.

That's true in the scenario you described. But from what I understood, he went there on his own and met her in her home when he made his "diagnosis". If he didn't have a license, then at that point he is a layperson, and his "diagnosis" would be a non-medical opinion, and not covered by HIPPA. I do agree that if there were licensed medical people there as well, and if he announced their findings, then that would point to a HIPPA violation.

[oliegirl]

And the saga continues...from TMZ:

Sources are now painting a very disturbing picture of Britney Spears, or whoever she happens to be at any given moment.

We're told the whole British accent thing -- well, it's more than an accent. Britney has multiple personalities, including, as people in her life call it, "the British girl." We're told when Spears loses the British personality, she has absolutely no idea what she did during the time she assumed that personality.

Sources say Brit has a number of other identities, where she becomes "the weepy girl, the diva, the incoherent girl," and on and on.

Sources say Britney had become the British girl the day she didn't show for her deposition and has no recollection of it.

[cartman]

Word is that the AP has a canned obit ready, just in case, as they do for many other famous people. Pretty sad.

[oliegirl]

Word is that the AP has a canned obit ready, just in case, as they do for many other famous people. Pretty sad.

Yeah, I saw that too...supposedly they have them for quite a few celebs, but usually when they are older/ill.

[Axxon]

That's true in the scenario you described. But from what I understood, he went there on his own and met her in her home when he made his "diagnosis". If he didn't have a license, then at that point he is a layperson, and his "diagnosis" would be a non-medical opinion, and not covered by HIPPA. I do agree that if there were licensed medical people there as well, and if he announced their findings, then that would point to a HIPPA violation.

Well, just got home and cringed when I realized we were both talking about something that doesn't even exist.

Of course, the new question is did he violate the federal HIPAA laws. :o

Did a quick google and found something I had no idea about or if it's even true but check this out.

At the national level, the federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, known as Hipaa, also restricts doctors, therapists and health care workers from disclosing patients’ medical information. Yet the act governs only providers who use electronic billing, says Kirk J. Nahra, head of the privacy practice at law firm Wiley Rein in Washington, D.C.

I've never heard that one before.

hxxp://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/do-the-rules-apply-to-dr-phil/

[Axxon]

And the saga continues...from TMZ:

Sources are now painting a very disturbing picture of Britney Spears, or whoever she happens to be at any given moment.

We're told the whole British accent thing -- well, it's more than an accent. Britney has multiple personalities, including, as people in her life call it, "the British girl." We're told when Spears loses the British personality, she has absolutely no idea what she did during the time she assumed that personality.

Sources say Brit has a number of other identities, where she becomes "the weepy girl, the diva, the incoherent girl," and on and on.

Sources say Britney had become the British girl the day she didn't show for her deposition and has no recollection of it.

I have a friend who walked almost the identical path. He started with heavy drugs, then came the hair shavings then the fake voices ( including a british one a few years ago ). Now he thinks he's a dolphin and has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic.

This is a fascinating story a newspaper wrote about him.

hxxp://www.prisonpotpourri.com/INFOandNEWS%20/Tampabay%20Hope's%20halfway%20house.html

It's pretty long but it's a pretty accurate and fair story. :(

Here's a part of the story though which relates.

The Dolphin has slipped away.

His real name is Tom Almond, but at night, in his dreams, he finds water and fins. Others have seen his feet in bed, rhythmically moving together.

Years ago, doctors diagnosed him as delusional. Now they're exploring his multiple personalities.

Those around him also worry about his use of crack cocaine.

It is the end of May and he has come into money, a $40,000 settlement paid out after he hurt his back in a car crash delivering pizzas. He has vanished into a neighborhood of transients and drug holes.

"I'm real scared," Debbie says. "He was flashing money in the ghetto. That's a good way to get killed."

Tom, 40, moved into her place in the spring. He was living with his mother a few doors down when he first met Debbie outside the boarding house one morning at 3 a.m. She was planting flowers, and he was walking his dogs. She made tea but ran out of sugar, so Tom went home for more.

He kept finding reasons to come back.

Now he's gone.

[Axxon]

Needless to say, I don't like Britney's music and it's easy to make fun of her but I honestly, deep down, know how she's suffering and damn it, I don't care how you fucked up to get there, no one needs to put up with that shit so I feel very, very sad about this. To use a term I saw today and really liked, "I feel empathetic not sympathetic with what she and everyone who cares for her for real is going through right now and this isn't likely to end well but I see jail before death frankly.

[Axxon]

Well, just got home and cringed when I realized we were both talking about something that doesn't even exist.

Of course, the new question is did he violate the federal HIPAA laws. :o

Did a quick google and found something I had no idea about or if it's even true but check this out.



I've never heard that one before.

hxxp://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/do-the-rules-apply-to-dr-phil/

Yes, I'm quoting myself but this is the ultimate in Ironic blog headlines.

Note to Dr. Phil: Can You Spell HIPPA?

Posted by Mark on January 9, 2008

Oopsie. :D

hxxp://libertyjustincase.com/2008/01/09/note-to-dr-phil-can-you-spell-hippa/

[albionmoonlight]

Hmmm. If Spears really does have some serious medical issues, then we can see why they have laws against doing what Dr. Phil allegedly did (practicing without a license).

Had a trained professional seen her under the right circumstances, he might have been able to provide a proper diagnosis. But Dr. Phil going in there gives the family some sense that a Doctor has seen her, when no such thing has happened.

[Buccaneer]

She must me working on various movies roles at the same time.

I would almost call BS because anytime any celebrity behaves badly, they play the bipolar or shizo card. Perhaps in some rare cases it would be true, but in most others, it's just an excuse since it is all built upon lies and perception.

[Axxon]

She must me working on various movies roles at the same time.

I would almost call BS because anytime any celebrity behaves badly, they play the bipolar or shizo card. Perhaps in some rare cases it would be true, but in most others, it's just an excuse since it is all built upon lies and perception.

Really?

Can you name another?

I'm not saying that it isn't true but I don't recall anyone else giving this answer. The closest I can remember is Rozanne Barr saying she had MPD. I can't think of anyone else saying that they have severe mental health issues. I'd imagine that would actually hurt an image more than help it.

[Axxon]

A quick google search shows a pretty small list of bipolar celebrities and it doesn't look like all of these were known for behaving badly.

Celebrities with Bipolar Disorder
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Listed by Birthday
Some of the people listed here are celebrities who have talked openly about having bipolar disorder; others have been judged by history to have suffered from manic depression. At least one is being called bipolar because of what may be a misinterpretation.

The list will grow as the next year goes by. We are adding short biographical pieces about each of these famous bipolars on their birthdays.

Date Unknown

• Heinz C. Prechter - Entrepreneur - 1942

January

• Virginia Woolf - novelist - January 25, 1882

February

• Axl Rose - rock singer - February 6, 1962

March

• Maurice Benard - actor - March 1, 1963
• Robert Lowell - poet - March 1, 1917
• Charley Pride - country-western singer - March 18, 1938

May

• Rosemary Clooney - singer - May 23, 1928

June

• Mariette Hartley - actress - advocate - June 21, 1940

September

• Linda Hamilton - actress - September 26, 1956

October

• Sting - musician, actor - October 2, 1951
• Margot Kidder - actress - October 17, 1948
• Jean-Claude Van Damme - actor - October 18, 1960
• Jeannie C. Riley - country-western singer - October 19, 1945
• Carrie Fisher - actress/writer - October 21, 1956
• Sylvia Plath - poet/author - October 27, 1932

November

• Larry Flynt - publisher, activist - November 1, 1942
• Vivien Leigh - actress - November 5, 1913
• Jonathan Winters - comedian, actor - November 11, 1925
• Burgess Meredith - actor - November 16, 1907
• Dick Cavett - actor, author, host - November 19, 1936
• Ben Stiller - actor, director, writer, comedian - November 30, 1965

December

• Connie Francis - singer, actress - December 12, 1938
• Patty Duke - actress - December 14, 1946
• DMX - rapper & actor - December 18, 1970
• Phil Spector - musician, producer - December 26, 1940

hxxp://bipolar.about.com/cs/celebs/a/bl_celebrities.htm

[rkmsuf]

DMX yo!

[Axxon]

Fun little list of mental celebrities. Only 2 with schizophrenia.

Now, I gotta go or I'll be late to work. :)

hxxp://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art21256.asp

Celebrities and Disorders

Celebrities and Disorders


Celebrities… normal people with a fantastical life. Something many wish they had and yet it seems unattainable. Their lives seem adventurous, romantic, exciting. But they are people just like us. After receiving a question posed about celebrities known with a certain disorder ~ I did some research. Here’s what I found.

CELEBRITIES WITH EATING DISORDERS: Past or Present (openly proclaimed – information here will only contain information stated directly from the individual)

Paula Abdul, Jane Fonda, Ashlee Simpson, Mary-Kate Olsen, Lindsay Lohan, Jessica Alba, Christina Ricci, Felicity Huffman, Kelly Clarkson, Janice Dickinson, Jamie-Lynn Sigler, Scarlett Pomers, Princess Diana, Melanie Chisholm, Sally Field, Calista Flockhart, Carrie Otis, Alexandra Paul, Elisa Donovan, Alanis Morrisette, Sharon Osbourne, Fiona Apple, Audrey Hepburn, Kate Winslet, Kate Beckinsale, Sylvia Plath, Kelly Ripa, Ally Sheedy, Patty Duke, Tracey Gold, Sandra Dee, Susan Dey, Elton John, Billy Bob Thornton, Matthew Perry, Dennis Quaid, Alfred Hitchcock, Richey James, John Lennon, Adam Rickitt (to name a few)

CELEBRITIES WITH OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE DISORDER: Past or Present

David Beckham, Paul Gascoigne, Woody Allen, Harrison Ford, Emily Lloyd, Michelle Pfeiffer, Winona Ryder, Charles Dickens, Marcel Proust

CELEBRITIES WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER: Past or Present

Buzz Aldrin, Ned Beatty, Bobby Brown, Mark Vonnegut, Robert Evans, Stephen Fry, Francis Ford Coppola, Patricia Cornwell, Maurice Benard, Jack Irons, Patty Duke, Linda Hamilton, Jonathan Winters, Darryl Strawberry, Nick Traina, Sylvia Plath, Tim Burton, Rosemary Clooney, Ray Davies, Lynn Rivers, Kitty Dukakis, Spike Milligan, Carrie Fisher, Norman Wexler, Virginia Woolf, Ted Turner, Jean-Claude Van Damme (to name a few)

CELEBRITIES WITH DEPRESSIVE DISORDERS: Past or Present

Sigmund Freud, Marilyn Monroe, Greg Louganis, Alanis Morrisette, Abraham Lincoln, Leo Tolstoy, Roseanne, Georgia O’Keefe, Tipper Gore, Lorraine Bracco, George Stephanopolous, Delta Burke, Dolly Parton, Edgar Allan Poe, Uma Thurman, Ashley Judd, Winona Rider

CELEBRITIES WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA: Past or Present

John Nash, Lionel Aldridge

CELEBRITIES WHO HAVE SUFFERED FROM ANXIETY
Johnny Depp, Courtney Love, Sally Field, Oprah Winfrey, Marie Osmond and brother Donny, Barbra Streisand, Isaac Asimov, W.B. Yeats, John Steinbeck, Charlotte Bronte, Cher, Naomi Judd, Aretha Franklin, Sheryl Crow, Carly Simon, Ray Charles, Sissy Spacek, Burt Reynolds, John Candy, Anthony Hopkins, Dick Clark, Nicole Kidman, Kim Basinger, Earl Campbell, Joan Rivers, Howie Mandel, Charles Schultz, Sigmund Freud, Sir Isaac Newton

Celebrities are not immune to these disorders and many of them have authored books, been involved in propaganda promoting mental health treatment and have interviews available to read. Check them out. Perhaps their stories will help YOU.

[BrianD]

Hmmm. If Spears really does have some serious medical issues, then we can see why they have laws against doing what Dr. Phil allegedly did (practicing without a license).

Had a trained professional seen her under the right circumstances, he might have been able to provide a proper diagnosis. But Dr. Phil going in there gives the family some sense that a Doctor has seen her, when no such thing has happened.

Isn't there a pretty big difference between not being a licensed physician, and being a licensed physician just not in one particular state? Just because he isn't licensed in CA doesn't mean he isn't a real doctor. (for practical purposes, not legal ones)

[albionmoonlight]

Isn't there a pretty big difference between not being a licensed physician, and being a licensed physician just not in one particular state? Just because he isn't licensed in CA doesn't mean he isn't a real doctor. (for practical purposes, not legal ones)

I am not sure, really. I will defer to the doctors on that one. As an attorney, I can say that I talk and act much differently when I am talking to a client as an attorney than I would talk to someone as a layperson who is educated in law. The difference is subtle, but critially important. Having an ethical obligation to someone (with the threat of malpractice and disbarment if I don't do it right) changes a lot about the way I approach them and their problems.

But, the big difference there is that laws differ from state to state, while I expect medicine does not.

Either way, though, being licensed to operate in a state involves, among other things, training, continuing education, and ethical requirements. Putting on a doctor hat without those things strikes me as wrong and dangerous--even if one has had training as a physician.

[oliegirl]

Isn't there a pretty big difference between not being a licensed physician, and being a licensed physician just not in one particular state? Just because he isn't licensed in CA doesn't mean he isn't a real doctor. (for practical purposes, not legal ones)

In the original article, you'll read that he isn't licensed at all...he used to be licensed in TX, let it lapse in 2006.

[RomaGoth]

In the original article, you'll read that he isn't licensed at all...he used to be licensed in TX, let it lapse in 2006.

Dr. Phil is who we thought he was. A loser.

[Buccaneer]

Axxon, not every action of immature, irresponsible, selfish behavior can blamed on mental illness (or method acting). When one abuses drugs or alcohol, or engage in destructive physical behavior, or throwns a tantrum because of immaturity, it can blamed on something else thereby excusing such behavior. By doing so, it relieves the doer of accepting personal responsibility and builds the public perception that one can't help him/herself because it's not their fault. You and I know that there are root causes but most can accept the personal responsibility to control that, knowing that conscious choices made to engage in destructive behavior can lead to bad consequences. Hollywood and celebritism is a bad place to get into if you are immature, spoiled and too self-conscious, for the temptations are great to feed upon that.

[RomaGoth]

Axxon, not every action of immature, irresponsible, selfish behavior can blamed on mental illness (or method acting). When one abuses drugs or alcohol, or engage in destructive physical behavior, or throwns a tantrum because of immaturity, it can blamed on something else thereby excusing such behavior. By doing so, it relieves the doer of accepting personal responsibility and builds the public perception that one can't help him/herself because it's not their fault. You and I know that there are root causes but most can accept the personal responsibility to control that, knowing that conscious choices made to engage in destructive behavior can lead to bad consequences. Hollywood and celebritism is a bad place to get into if you are immature, spoiled and too self-conscious, for the temptations are great to feed upon that.

Britany Spears and Lindsay Lohan are 2 good examples of why NOT to allow children to be famous. Of course, the list could be extended to Gary Coleman, Dana Plato, Todd Bridges, McCauley Caulkin, the Olson twins, and numerous others you see in the news. For every Kirk Cameron there is a Tracy Gold.

[st.cronin]

Probably the wrong thread for this, but there's a report on my radio that Herschel Walker has MPD, and is publishing a book about it.

Also, MPD is not the same thing as bi-polar disorder - it seems like there's some confusion in this thread.

[rkmsuf]

Probably the wrong thread for this, but there's a report on my radio that Herschel Walker has MPD, and is publishing a book about it.

Also, MPD is not the same thing as bi-polar disorder - it seems like there's some confusion in this thread.

herschel the shitty back and herschel the good back?

[Axxon]

Axxon, not every action of immature, irresponsible, selfish behavior can blamed on mental illness (or method acting). When one abuses drugs or alcohol, or engage in destructive physical behavior, or throwns a tantrum because of immaturity, it can blamed on something else thereby excusing such behavior. By doing so, it relieves the doer of accepting personal responsibility and builds the public perception that one can't help him/herself because it's not their fault. You and I know that there are root causes but most can accept the personal responsibility to control that, knowing that conscious choices made to engage in destructive behavior can lead to bad consequences. Hollywood and celebritism is a bad place to get into if you are immature, spoiled and too self-conscious, for the temptations are great to feed upon that.

Right I agree, but I think we have a communications breakdown. You seemed saying that whenever celebrities make bad decisions they blame it on mental illness ( I would almost call BS because anytime any celebrity behaves badly, they play the bipolar or shizo card ) which I pointed out isn't really the case.

Using those two specific issues, which Britney seems to be doing, is pretty rare since these aren't mischevious illnesses but serious mental disorders.

That's what I was getting out.

[Axxon]

Britany Spears and Lindsay Lohan are 2 good examples of why NOT to allow children to be famous. Of course, the list could be extended to Gary Coleman, Dana Plato, Todd Bridges, McCauley Caulkin, the Olson twins, and numerous others you see in the news. For every Kirk Cameron there is a Tracy Gold.

And this is different from real life how? Hell, I posted about my dolphin friend and he's only one person I know who acts badly and blames it on other things.

That's human nature there. Primadonna's and excusing bad behavior is a standard human response so picking out the cases you hear about because everyone hears about makes it seem like they are different but barring a site ( or a reasoned opinion by our resident child expert eaglesfan 27 ) I'm not buying that this is a fame specific response and not just something we see every day, in every walk of life but just don't think about it since they're not famous.

[SirFozzie]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/31/britney.spears/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A police motorcade the length of a football field escorted troubled pop star Britney Spears to a Los Angeles hospital early Thursday to get her some help, a law-enforcement official told CNN.

This is the second hospital visit for Spears this month, coming after her psychologist called the police, according to the Los Angeles Times.

She was removed from her home for a "mental evaluation hold," according to the L.A. Times.

The North Hollywood Police Department sent about eight officers to Spears' hilltop house in Studio City, California, about 12:55 a.m. Thursday, according to the law enforcement official, who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to comment publicly.

The group at Spears' house included plainclothes officers, motorcycle police, ambulance crews and some police "brass," the official said.

It took the better part of the day to arrange the transport plan, the officer said.

[oliegirl]

Hopefully now she'll get the help she so obviously and desperately needs.

[watravaler]

It's a friggin circus, the rehab CD is right around the corner...rinse and repeat...

If she is serious about getting clean, and is not simply orchestrating some ridiculous PR creation, she would have been out of the limelight years ago...

[rkmsuf]

Police? WTF.

This is beyond beyond at this point.

[oliegirl]

It's a friggin circus, the rehab CD is right around the corner...rinse and repeat...

If she is serious about getting clean, and is not simply orchestrating some ridiculous PR creation, she would have been out of the limelight years ago...

I agree with you...to a point. I don't think SHE is the one who is orchestrating all of this, she isn't in the state of mind to accept that she is sick, let alone come up with a plan to put her on psychiatric hold. At this point, it's her parents - and in my opinion - her mom, who is allowing/encouraging this to play out in front of the media.

From what I've read, after the last hospitalization, she had papers drawn up to give Sam Lufti power over this kind of thing, and in all honestly, to me at least, it seems like he is trying to help her. Her parents haven't been around the situation like he has been every day, seeing her deteriorate, and getting to where he knows her state of mind, etc.

No matter what happens in the long run, this is at least a step in the right direction.

[MalcPow]

Is there any possibility that her shrinks are overreacting a bit as well? A police motorcade? You couldn't drive her over?

I could see whoever is attending to her being so concerned with the liability involved if she did something suicidal (because there is such widespread belief of her total insanity), that things feed themselves to a point where a doctor has to take every worst case scenario action to cover themselves. Would anyone be shocked if Spears took a bunch of pills? Do any of us really have any knowledge of her state of mind to assess that as reasonable?

I think both answers are 'no.' And that it's at least possible that the pressure of public perception could be having a real impact on the actions of those treating her, and to her detriment. Just seems silly, but I have no clue what I'm talking about.

[st.cronin]

Hopefully now she'll get the help she so obviously and desperately needs.

Color me not optimistic.

[Axxon]

Is there any possibility that her shrinks are overreacting a bit as well? A police motorcade? You couldn't drive her over?

I could see whoever is attending to her being so concerned with the liability involved if she did something suicidal (because there is such widespread belief of her total insanity), that things feed themselves to a point where a doctor has to take every worst case scenario action to cover themselves. Would anyone be shocked if Spears took a bunch of pills? Do any of us really have any knowledge of her state of mind to assess that as reasonable?

I think both answers are 'no.' And that it's at least possible that the pressure of public perception could be having a real impact on the actions of those treating her, and to her detriment. Just seems silly, but I have no clue what I'm talking about.

With the army of paparazzi I'd think it'd be impossible to "just drive over there" and get her. If she was having a breakdown I'd say having a police escort is a good idea. The paparazzi killed princess Diana and she wasn't even mentally ill at the time and arguably less hounded by the press at the time as well.

[oliegirl]

Is there any possibility that her shrinks are overreacting a bit as well? A police motorcade? You couldn't drive her over?

I could see whoever is attending to her being so concerned with the liability involved if she did something suicidal (because there is such widespread belief of her total insanity), that things feed themselves to a point where a doctor has to take every worst case scenario action to cover themselves. Would anyone be shocked if Spears took a bunch of pills? Do any of us really have any knowledge of her state of mind to assess that as reasonable?

I think both answers are 'no.' And that it's at least possible that the pressure of public perception could be having a real impact on the actions of those treating her, and to her detriment. Just seems silly, but I have no clue what I'm talking about.

I agree that's it's all been blown way out of proportion and that those involved have allowed the media attention to cloud their judgement. But I don't think that anyone could deny the fact that her being in the hospital is what is best for her right now...so at the end of the day, the fact that she is there is really all that matters.

I'm not optimistic that this is going to "fix" her, I think it's very possible that she is too far gone for that, or that b/c of her "celebrity" status, no one will ever truly have her best interest at heart and she will be released too early, given one too many chances to go off her meds, etc...I personally feel she'll be dead by the end of the year.

[SirFozzie]

Dayumn. This has to be at least a bit of an exaggeration.. 96 hours without sleep?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4383003a1860.html

She has been placed on a 5150 hold - a piece of US legislation which means she poses a danger to herself and others.

It is claimed the intervention was planned for days and was finally executed when Britney’s condition deteriorated after she went without sleep since Saturday

[Fidatelo]

Dayumn. This has to be at least a bit of an exaggeration.. 96 hours without sleep?

Can you say... crystal meth?

[stevew]

what die first?
Winehouse or Spear.

[oliegirl]

what die first?
Winehouse or Spear.

Winehouse, when there is a video of you smoking crack on the internet, and all the police are doing are "investigating it", that's not a good sign.

[SirFozzie]

Winehouse, when there is a video of you smoking crack on the internet, and all the police are doing are "investigating it", that's not a good sign.

They tried to make her go to rehab, but she said, "no, no, no."

(Ok, that was a horrible joke/pun.. but it had be done)

[oliegirl]

They tried to make her go to rehab, but she said, "no, no, no."

(Ok, that was a horrible joke/pun.. but it had be done)

Bad joke, great song. Now SHE is a waste of talent...

[Ksyrup]

She has been placed on a 5150 hold - a piece of US legislation

Ignorant of the difference between the US and California, AND not a Van Halen fan? I'm offended.

[Honolulu_Blue]

what die first?
Winehouse or Spear.

Other than having a substance abuse problem and presumably being a singer of some sort, I have no idea who Amy Winehouse is. I have never heard any of her songs or have any idea what kind of music she sings.

How/when did she become relevant?

[oliegirl]

Other than having a substance abuse problem and presumably being a singer of some sort, I have no idea who Amy Winehouse is. I have never heard any of her songs or have any idea what kind of music she sings.

How/when did she become relevant?

She seems to be on the same self destruction track that Britney is on, though it seems like Winehouse is only suffering from drug addition, not a bipolar disorder. A lot of people have them as the top 2 celebs to die this year, it's just a question of who goes first.

[rkmsuf]

Other than having a substance abuse problem and presumably being a singer of some sort, I have no idea who Amy Winehouse is. I have never heard any of her songs or have any idea what kind of music she sings.

How/when did she become relevant?

nerd

[Honolulu_Blue]

nerd

I prefer geek.

[rkmsuf]

I prefer geek.


I don't know who she is either.

[Honolulu_Blue]

She seems to be on the same self destruction track that Britney is on, though it seems like Winehouse is only suffering from drug addition, not a bipolar disorder. A lot of people have them as the top 2 celebs to die this year, it's just a question of who goes first.

I understand that, I just don't know why Winehouse is in the news. Britney, I understand. She was crazy popular for a while there.

Is/was Winehouse a popular musician? As far as I can tell, the only reason she seems to be "in the news" is because of her self desctruction track.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I don't know who she is either.

Of course you don't. In your world there is one, and only one, woman: rksmufette.

[stevew]

I understand that, I just don't know why Winehouse is in the news. Britney, I understand. She was crazy popular for a while there.

Is/was Winehouse a popular musician? As far as I can tell, the only reason she seems to be "in the news" is because of her self desctruction track.

She's nominated for 6 Grammy's this year. Dunno how that directly relates to popularity, but shows some level of respect in the industry.

[Honolulu_Blue]

She's nominated for 6 Grammy's this year. Dunno how that directly relates to popularity, but shows some level of respect in the industry.

Six Grammy's? Really? Huh. That's pretty impressive, I suppose.

Well, hopefully she'll get her life in order.

[rkmsuf]

Of course you don't. In your world there is one, and only one, woman: rksmufette.


smufette is kind of a hot name

[oliegirl]

She's nominated for 6 Grammy's this year. Dunno how that directly relates to popularity, but shows some level of respect in the industry.

Her album "Back to Black" was probably the most critically acclaimed album of the year. Her big hit "Rehab" was kind of prophetic...main chorus is:

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

[Axxon]

Dayumn. This has to be at least a bit of an exaggeration.. 96 hours without sleep?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4383003a1860.html

She has been placed on a 5150 hold - a piece of US legislation which means she poses a danger to herself and others.

It is claimed the intervention was planned for days and was finally executed when Britney’s condition deteriorated after she went without sleep since Saturday

I don't think that's an exaggeration. My friend would go on sleepless binges like that. I once kept up with him for roughly 50 hours just because but I died out long before he did.

A good rule of thumb; just because something isn't normal doesn't mean people don't do it. That's why they're called crazy. :D

[CU Tiger]

I once went 5 days without sleep....think Clapton called that one....

[Axxon]

I once went 5 days without sleep....think Clapton called that one....

When I was a young man, I'd try experiments like this but never got much over 80 or so hours before I gave up the ghost. I wasn't trying to push myself past the limits merely test them and I wasn't on anything stronger than Lipton tea at the time.

What's scary is I just googled sleep deprivation and the first thing it mentions is it might cause Type II diabetes which I did contract years later. It would suck totally if I did this to myself but who knew??

hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation

[Axxon]

Dola,

no idea on the veracity of this but I found it interesting.

Death by Sleep Deprivation

Nazi experimenters discovered during rather inhumane experiments during WWII that test subjects will die after an extended period of total sleep deprivation (TSD). They also found that the vast majority of subjects followed a specific pattern of behaviour by day. [By Craig Doran, Ph.D.]
Subject

Life Expectancy with TSD
(Total Sleep Deprivation)
Puppy Dog 96 hrs.
Human 264 hrs.
Rhinoceros 153 hrs.
Sheep 340 hrs
Army Ant 24 hrs.

If this is true then it clearly may not be exaggeration that she hasn't slept in 96 hours, and if the last link is true then it's also reinforcing the schizophrenia idea which I think is quite possible here.

hxxp://www.deeperwants.com/cul1/homeworlds/journal/archives/001284.html

hxxp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061123234445AAzymO9

It is believed sleep deprivation for more than 72 hours straight can lead to schizophrenia and irreversable brain damage. Although the scientific results are still inconclusive.

The record for the longest period without sleep is 18 days, 21 hours, 40 minutes during a rocking chair marathon. The record holder reported hallucinations, paranoia, blurred vision, slurred speech and memory and concentration lapses.

[Axxon]

dola whatever,

did I accidently Godwin the thread with my last post ;)

[Buccaneer]

As brought up earlier, those very close to Hershel Walker had no idea of his disorder, yet those with no closeness to Spears readily accepts that she has a condition? Maybe she is simply a crack addict, which could cause destructive behavior to self and others?

[cartman]

As brought up earlier, those very close to Hershel Walker had no idea of his disorder, yet those with no closeness to Spears readily accepts that she has a condition? Maybe she is simply a crack addict, which could cause destructive behavior to self and others?

Sounds like her parents have finally woken up and smelled the crazy. A judge today granted them temporary conservatorship of her estate.

hxxp://www.nbc5i.com/whattheel/15198647/detail.html