If you had the top overall pick, would you take....? (Deion Sanders)

[Abe Sargent]

Hello! This is a poll to determine if you would take a player with the top pick, if you knew what he would do. Or, would you rather take the top rated rookie. You cannot trade down.

The people of FOFC rejected Dorsey Levens and Jeff Hostetler, but were split 50/50 on Herman Moore. Let's move from the offensive glamour positions to defense.

This poll is simple. Knowing what his career would do, would you take Deion Sanders?

His picks are solid, but not amazing. He's a good returner. He was banged up a lot. His tackling was questionable, but he had a fierce reputation, so players would throw away from him.

Knowing how he'd turn out, would you take Deion with the top overall pick? Or would you rather roll the dice with random top rated rookie?

[Warhammer]

Poll?

[MikeVic]

I would definitely take Deion. I know he sponsors that hot dog cooker in the future, and that's all I need.

Plus I liked him as a player a lot.

[Anthony]

prime time, baby.

[TroyF]

In a tenth of a second.

[stevew]

Sanders was the 5th pick already, so this isn't a stretch. Although HOFers(or future ones) Barry Sanders, Troy Aikman and Derek Thomas were selected in front of him. I guess since I would know prime time wasn't a bust, and not know about Aikman or Barry, then I'd take Deion. But it's really hard to not take barry, knowing he was just coming off of a 2500+ yard senior season.

[SteveMax58]

Yes. Anytime you have a player that can be left on the other team's best WR without any help, it allows you to focus and repurpose players towards other areas of the offense that you do not excel at stopping.

Was he perfect? No. Could he tackle? Barely. But to guarentee me a shutdown corner/KR & PR playmaker...absolutely.

[Abe Sargent]

Sanders was the 5th pick already, so this isn't a stretch. Although HOFers(or future ones) Barry Sanders, Troy Aikman and Derek Thomas were selected in front of him. I guess since I would know prime time wasn't a bust, and not know about Aikman or Barry, then I'd take Deion. But it's really hard to not take barry, knowing he was just coming off of a 2500+ yard senior season.

It's not the random top rookie that season, just the random top rated rookie in general.

[Surtt]

Does this include knowing he will leave for free agency as soon as he can or does it assume he will play his entire career for the team that drafts him?

[rkmsuf]

Can he still dump water on McCarver?

[Abe Sargent]

Does this include knowing he will leave for free agency as soon as he can or does it assume he will play his entire career for the team that drafts him?

If you pay him the money, he'll stay, but he wants it.

[Noop]

Deion makes your defense a whole lot better. He pretty much shuts down his side of the field freeing up your safety to do what he wants...

[Fidatelo]

This poll was the equivalent of my "you must choose between a random number falling in the range of 1 to 100, or pick a known number" question, except the known number was a 96.

[JAG]

Would I take a Hall of Fame CB with return and WR ability or a random top #1 overall rookie? I'd go with the safe bet here.

[14ers]

I don't understand who else is in the draft?

Is Peyton Manning or John Elway availabe in this draft? Are you using Deon's draft class? Is it this years draft?

So, I will take both Manning and Elway long before Deon.

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Besides Mandarich, Deon was luck to go at 5 in his own draft class. I wouldn't even put Deon in the same class as Sanders, Thomas, or Aikman.

[MikeVic]

I don't think these rules are that hard to follow!!

[rkmsuf]

I don't think these rules are that hard to follow!!

I thought Deion was retired?!?!?!?

[MikeVic]

I thought Deion was retired?!?!?!?

He's so old now, I'd rather take LT in a draft!

[14ers]

I don't think these rules are that hard to follow!!
How can someone say who should go #1 overall without knowing who #2, #3, #4, or #5 are?

[rkmsuf]

How can someone say who should go #1 overall without knowing who #2, #3, #4, or #5 are?

You just say it. It's not that hard.

[MikeVic]

How can someone say who should go #1 overall without knowing who #2, #3, #4, or #5 are?

I think that's part of the point. If you know what kind of career Deion will have, and you had the 1.1 pick in a draft that Deion comes out in (but the rest of the draft class doesn't necessarily have to be Deion's actual draft class)... would you take Deion at 1.1, or would you take someone who you have no idea what his career will turn out to be. You could end up taking a RB that turns in Barry Sanders or you could end up taking a RB that turns into Ki-Jana Carter.

[jbergey22]

I wouldnt even consider this one. If primetime is there I take him. The best cover corner in history and one of the best punt returners in history as well. I think Deion could have been the first pick that particular he was drafted except it was such a talented draft.

[Jas_lov]

Since I have the top overall pick, I would definitely take Barry Sanders over Deion.

[Vince]

Holy crap people, are you really this dense?

The idea of this (and the rest of the threads like it) are that YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE OTHER ROOKIES ARE GOING TO BE. So imagine you KNOW Deion Sanders is going to be great, and the rest of the people are the draft class from 2015 or something.

[MikeVic]

Holy crap people, are you really this dense?

The idea of this (and the rest of the threads like it) are that YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE OTHER ROOKIES ARE GOING TO BE. So imagine you KNOW Deion Sanders is going to be great, and the rest of the people are the draft class from 2015 or something.

I think I explained it more elegantly. :cool:

[Vince]

I think I explained it more elegantly. :cool:

Well, it wasn't working :)

[MikeVic]

Well, it wasn't working :)

Yeah your explanation is more to the point.

[rkmsuf]

If Hart Lee Dykes hadn't been injured no way Deion could cover him.

[Vince]

Yeah your explanation is more to the point.

More a commentary on the people reading and replying to the thread than to your explanation (which I thought was fairly clear-cut).

[Jas_lov]

Holy crap people, are you really this dense?

The idea of this (and the rest of the threads like it) are that YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE OTHER ROOKIES ARE GOING TO BE. So imagine you KNOW Deion Sanders is going to be great, and the rest of the people are the draft class from 2015 or something.

Got it now. So I'll take the sure thing and switch my vote to Deion Sanders.

[rkmsuf]

Got it now. So I'll take the sure thing and switch my vote to Deion Sanders.

How can you take Deion over Sanders though?

[MikeVic]

If Hart Lee Dykes hadn't been injured no way Deion could cover him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Lee_Dykes


...because of an eye injury which occurred during a bar room fight with Irving Fryar in 1990.


Tell me more about this guy please.

[Jas_lov]

How can you take Deion over Sanders though?

I don't think you're understanding the rules. You absolutely 100% know that Deion Sanders will be a great player. But you have no clue what the other players in the draft will do. There is no Barry Sanders in this draft. Well, there might be, but you don't know that.

[rkmsuf]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Lee_Dykes



Tell me more about this guy please.

that's about the entire story

[rkmsuf]

I don't think you're understanding the rules. You absolutely 100% know that Deion Sanders will be a great player. But you have no clue what the other players in the draft will do. There is no Barry Sanders in this draft. Well, there might be, but you don't know that.

but barry sanders is in the draft. presumably we've done scouting.

[jbergey22]

I don't think you're understanding the rules. You absolutely 100% know that Deion Sanders will be a great player. But you have no clue what the other players in the draft will do. There is no Barry Sanders in this draft. Well, there might be, but you don't know that.

I'd imagine he is being sarcastic. I would hope he has caught on by now:)

[Jas_lov]

but barry sanders is in the draft. presumably we've done scouting.

That was my initial thought as well. That's why I took Barry. But I guess we have to assume that we haven't done any scouting on the other players and that we only know about Deion Sanders.

[rkmsuf]

That was my initial thought as well. That's why I took Barry. But I guess we have to assume that we haven't done any scouting on the other players and that we only know about Deion Sanders.

well I don't see how we would get to make the #1 pick and not do any scouting. that's cooky talk.

[Jas_lov]

I'd imagine he is being sarcastic. I would hope he has caught on by now:)

I think so as well. It's really not that hard to figure out! :)

[rkmsuf]

blimey

[Vince]

Yeah, rkmsuf was the last person I was worried about when I put up my message :)

[14ers]

But you have no clue what the other players in the draft will do Who is this GM you hired? Rodney Dangerfield?

Last year was he a 7th grade girls soccer coach that had no time for college football?

You announced that the team was going to take a week off for the NFL combine, so your new GM went to Cabo to catch some rays. At a press confrence your new GM announced that he believes the key to winning in the NFL is good starting pitching. When asked if your defeense was going to be a 4-3 or 3-4, your GM said "No, No, we are going to play 5 on 5 this year".

Do you have any combine numbers on this draft class?

How random does our 1st pick have to be if we do not take Deon? Can we at least tell you what position we want to draft?

[stevew]

You could end up taking a RB that turns in Barry Sanders or you could end up taking a RB that turns into Ki-Jana Carter.

If it would be Deion's draft class, it would actually be Barry Sanders.

[rkmsuf]

If it would be Deion's draft class, it would actually be Barry Sanders.

whoa

[Carman Bulldog]

Question:

Would he be trying that baseball shit or would his sole focus be on football?

[MikeVic]

Who is this GM you hired? Rodney Dangerfield?

Last year was he a 7th grade girls soccer coach that had no time for college football?

You announced that the team was going to take a week off for the NFL combine, so your new GM went to Cabo to catch some rays. At a press confrence your new GM announced that he believes the key to winning in the NFL is good starting pitching. When asked if your defeense was going to be a 4-3 or 3-4, your GM said "No, No, we are going to play 5 on 5 this year".

Do you have any combine numbers on this draft class?

How random does our 1st pick have to be if we do not take Deon? Can we at least tell you what position we want to draft?

Dammit, it doesn't have to be this complicated.

[14ers]

Dammit, it doesn't have to be this complicated.
I know.

But still, in a lot of drafts you see one or two players that just grab you as can't miss.

This year I would take Deon over #1 over everyone.
Last year I would have taken Calvin Johnson over Deon.
2006 would have been Reggie Bush all the way.
2005 Deon Sanders
2004 Deon Sanders
2003 CB Terence Newman KSU
2002 Julius Peppers
2001 Leonard Davis
2000 Deon Sanders


Sorry, but sometimes there are players, barring injury, that are Can't miss players. Now, if you are going to play GOD and guarantee that Deon NEVER, EVER gets injured then most GMs are going to select Deon everytime.

[MalcPow]

Here's how I like to think of it. Would you take Deion or one of the following selected completely at random?

2007 1 1(1) JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB LSU
2006 1 1(1) MARIO WILLIAMS DE NORTH CAROLINA ST
2005 1 1(1) ALEX SMITH QB UTAH
2004 1 1(1) ELI MANNING QB MISSISSIPPI
2003 1 1(1) CARSON PALMER QB USC
2002 1 1(1) DAVID CARR QB FRESNO STATE
2001 1 1(1) MICHAEL VICK QB VIRGINIA TECH
2000 1 1(1) COURTNEY BROWN DE PENN STATE
1999 1 1(1) TIM COUCH QB KENTUCKY
1998 1 1(1) PEYTON MANNING QB TENNESSEE
1997 1 1(1) ORLANDO PACE OT OHIO STATE
1996 1 1(1) KEYSHAWN JOHNSON WR USC
1995 1 1(1) KI-JANA CARTER RB PENN STATE
1994 1 1(1) DAN WILKINSON DT OHIO STATE
1993 1 1(1) DREW BLEDSOE QB WASHINGTON STATE
1992 1 1(1) STEVE EMTMAN DT WASHINGTON
1991 1 1(1) RUSSELL MARYLAND DT MIAMI (FLA.)
1990 1 1(1) JEFF GEORGE QB ILLINOIS

I'd take Deion. But only because Jeff George is retired and I saw him recently and he looked totally washed up. So I wouldn't want him. Dude had like questionable hygeine even. I think Deion is still showering??? I know we haven't done any scouting but do we know that at least??

[korme]

Guaranteed one of the best cover corners of all-time? Count me in.

A good one I would suggest is Terrell Davis. He had a very good, and very short career. Is the juice worth the squeeze?

[Fidatelo]

As has been discussed, RB's are dime-a-dozen. You could slap your grandma behind a good zone-blocking scheme and get 1000 yards. TD was good, but he's not 1.1 good.

I'm not sure I'd take any back 1.1, even Tomlinson, Smith, or Sanders. I've gotta think I'd rather have some beast of an OL, QB, or defensive player.

[Suburban Rhythm]

If Hart Lee Dykes hadn't been injured no way Deion could cover him.


Hart Lee Dykes was no Yatil Green.

[Vince]

Who is this GM you hired? Rodney Dangerfield?

Last year was he a 7th grade girls soccer coach that had no time for college football?

You announced that the team was going to take a week off for the NFL combine, so your new GM went to Cabo to catch some rays. At a press confrence your new GM announced that he believes the key to winning in the NFL is good starting pitching. When asked if your defeense was going to be a 4-3 or 3-4, your GM said "No, No, we are going to play 5 on 5 this year".

Do you have any combine numbers on this draft class?

How random does our 1st pick have to be if we do not take Deon? Can we at least tell you what position we want to draft?

Let's put it this way...

Pretend, for argument's sake, that we could take Deion Sanders pre-Draft, and time travel him forward to right now. We are GUARANTEED that he is going to have the same EXACT career, statistics wise. Now, put him as draft eligible for 2008. You can't predict how great or how poorly the 2008 draftees are going to be, but you KNOW how good Deion will be. Would you take him over the top rated rookie that is available? And sure, you get combine results, scouting information, everything you normally would about these other rookies.

Now, for shits and giggles, pretend you could remove the "2008" from the above statement, and make it arbitrary (I know that's a big word...www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com) is awesome), but Deion is in whatever draft class you choose. Would you take Deion? Or a random top rookie that you don't know how they will perform?

Now, if you arbitrarily pick the 1982 draft class, you can't think "Oh, I'd take Marcus Allen over him in a heartbeat!" because in this exercise, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GREAT OR CRAPPY A CAREER THAT MARCUS ALLEN WILL HAVE. The point is we only have hindsight on ONE person.

I'm going to stop now, because this is ridiculous.

[ageofquarrel]

If deion sanders can time travel now, defiantly taking him over barry sanders

[Sublime 2]

If deion sanders can time travel now, defiantly taking him over barry sanders

Excellent

[Vince]

I grinned :)

[korme]

Here's how I like to think of it. Would you take Deion or one of the following selected completely at random?

2007 1 1(1) JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB LSU
2006 1 1(1) MARIO WILLIAMS DE NORTH CAROLINA ST
2005 1 1(1) ALEX SMITH QB UTAH
2004 1 1(1) ELI MANNING QB MISSISSIPPI
2003 1 1(1) CARSON PALMER QB USC
2002 1 1(1) DAVID CARR QB FRESNO STATE
2001 1 1(1) MICHAEL VICK QB VIRGINIA TECH
2000 1 1(1) COURTNEY BROWN DE PENN STATE
1999 1 1(1) TIM COUCH QB KENTUCKY
1998 1 1(1) PEYTON MANNING QB TENNESSEE
1997 1 1(1) ORLANDO PACE OT OHIO STATE
1996 1 1(1) KEYSHAWN JOHNSON WR USC
1995 1 1(1) KI-JANA CARTER RB PENN STATE
1994 1 1(1) DAN WILKINSON DT OHIO STATE
1993 1 1(1) DREW BLEDSOE QB WASHINGTON STATE
1992 1 1(1) STEVE EMTMAN DT WASHINGTON
1991 1 1(1) RUSSELL MARYLAND DT MIAMI (FLA.)
1990 1 1(1) JEFF GEORGE QB ILLINOIS
I'd take Deion. But only because Jeff George is retired and I saw him recently and he looked totally washed up. So I wouldn't want him. Dude had like questionable hygeine even. I think Deion is still showering??? I know we haven't done any scouting but do we know that at least??

Ahh, but that's assuming you intellect is only the equivalent (for better or worse) of that year's #1 drafting GM. What about when LT went #5 overall in 2001?

[sterlingice]

*head explodes*

This isn't that hard, people!

SI

[damnMikeBrown]

I'd take him, switch his position to punter, then release him.

[KWhit]

I'd rather have Herschel Walker.

[Racer]

I know.

But still, in a lot of drafts you see one or two players that just grab you as can't miss.

This year I would take Deon over #1 over everyone.
Last year I would have taken Calvin Johnson over Deon.
2006 would have been Reggie Bush all the way.
2005 Deon Sanders
2004 Deon Sanders
2003 CB Terence Newman KSU
2002 Julius Peppers
2001 Leonard Davis
2000 Deon Sanders


Sorry, but sometimes there are players, barring injury, that are Can't miss players. Now, if you are going to play GOD and guarantee that Deon NEVER, EVER gets injured then most GMs are going to select Deon everytime.


I voted to take Deion Sanders with the first pick although I agree that some years I would have taken someone else such as Julius Peppers with the first pick. It really depends if someone else in the draft looks like a sure thing.

[MikeVic]

I've lost track if people are just playing around, or if they really don't get it? :)

[Vince]

*head explodes*

This isn't that hard, people!

SI

Yeah, you get over it after a little bit.

[KWhit]

I don't understand why people would make any kind of a draft pick without knowing who they're picking. Has that ever happened before?

Was the GM running late the day that the draft class was announced and got into work right before the deadline, threw up his hands and said, "Fuck it, I gotta draft somebody. Let's draft George. I had a dog named George once."

[MIJB#19]

I don't understand why people would make any kind of a draft pick without knowing who they're picking. Has that ever happened before?

Was the GM running late the day that the draft class was announced and got into work right before the deadline, threw up his hands and said, "Fuck it, I gotta draft somebody. Let's draft George. I had a dog named George once."Did the Falcons know what they got when they decided to go with Michael Vick? (For example) Did the Browns know in advance that their back-to-back #1 picks would be out of football before their first double-digit wins season? How sure were the Colts in knowing they'd pick a guy who would lead them to a Super Bowl victory?

[Honolulu Blue]

Anxiety, thank you for the intriguing exercise. You know, this is something that can be simmed in FOF. I would make the following assumptions:

1) Start with a team that you know is going to be bad
2) (optional) Sabotage any star/superstar players so that the team is even worse
3) Sim seasons until they end up with the 1(1) pick
4) SAVE GAME
5) Start a new game under the following conditions:

a) Trade the 1(1) pick to another team (random? 2nd worst team? .500 team? Suggestions?) for either an immediately released scrub or a 7th round pick
b) In the editor, either create a new player or change one of the scrubs to the star player (Dorsey, Deion, etc.)
c) The star player will have the same contract as the 1(1) player. After that contract expires, he must be kept by the team, but his contract would be at fair market rates
d) The star player would start at the same age he did in real life
e) The star player would play the same number of seasons he played in real life. If he is still active in the game at this point, he must be force retired or deleted
f) Injuries are on. If the star player suffers a career-ending injury, oh well

6) Run this game for as long as the star player's original career lasted
7) Record the results
8) Start another game based on the save game in #4, only this time keep the 1(1) pick
9) Run this game for as long as the star player's original career lasted
10) Record those results
11) Compare the results

It would take some work, and I don't have a lot of time for it, but maybe I'll pick it up when I have a few spare moments. This would actually be more interesting for baseball, but a lot of things would obviously have to change.

Meanwhile, others are more than welcome to do the same thing.

[FFL Buffalo Bills]

Here's how I like to think of it. Would you take Deion or one of the following selected completely at random?

2007 1 1(1) JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB LSU
2006 1 1(1) MARIO WILLIAMS DE NORTH CAROLINA ST
2005 1 1(1) ALEX SMITH QB UTAH
2004 1 1(1) ELI MANNING QB MISSISSIPPI
2003 1 1(1) CARSON PALMER QB USC
2002 1 1(1) DAVID CARR QB FRESNO STATE
2001 1 1(1) MICHAEL VICK QB VIRGINIA TECH
2000 1 1(1) COURTNEY BROWN DE PENN STATE
1999 1 1(1) TIM COUCH QB KENTUCKY
1998 1 1(1) PEYTON MANNING QB TENNESSEE
1997 1 1(1) ORLANDO PACE OT OHIO STATE
1996 1 1(1) KEYSHAWN JOHNSON WR USC
1995 1 1(1) KI-JANA CARTER RB PENN STATE
1994 1 1(1) DAN WILKINSON DT OHIO STATE
1993 1 1(1) DREW BLEDSOE QB WASHINGTON STATE
1992 1 1(1) STEVE EMTMAN DT WASHINGTON
1991 1 1(1) RUSSELL MARYLAND DT MIAMI (FLA.)
1990 1 1(1) JEFF GEORGE QB ILLINOIS

I'd take Deion. But only because Jeff George is retired and I saw him recently and he looked totally washed up. So I wouldn't want him. Dude had like questionable hygeine even. I think Deion is still showering??? I know we haven't done any scouting but do we know that at least??

I always hated Deion Sanders...But ya have to respect a player of his caliber! And knowing he would be what he was Prime Time as much as I hate to say it....

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety, thank you for the intriguing exercise. You know, this is something that can be simmed in FOF. I would make the following assumptions:

1) Start with a team that you know is going to be bad
2) (optional) Sabotage any star/superstar players so that the team is even worse
3) Sim seasons until they end up with the 1(1) pick
4) SAVE GAME
5) Start a new game under the following conditions:

a) Trade the 1(1) pick to another team (random? 2nd worst team? .500 team? Suggestions?) for either an immediately released scrub or a 7th round pick
b) In the editor, either create a new player or change one of the scrubs to the star player (Dorsey, Deion, etc.)
c) The star player will have the same contract as the 1(1) player. After that contract expires, he must be kept by the team, but his contract would be at fair market rates
d) The star player would start at the same age he did in real life
e) The star player would play the same number of seasons he played in real life. If he is still active in the game at this point, he must be force retired or deleted
f) Injuries are on. If the star player suffers a career-ending injury, oh well

6) Run this game for as long as the star player's original career lasted
7) Record the results
8) Start another game based on the save game in #4, only this time keep the 1(1) pick
9) Run this game for as long as the star player's original career lasted
10) Record those results
11) Compare the results

It would take some work, and I don't have a lot of time for it, but maybe I'll pick it up when I have a few spare moments. This would actually be more interesting for baseball, but a lot of things would obviously have to change.

Meanwhile, others are more than welcome to do the same thing.

YW.

Too much work for me :(

[GreenMonster]

Anyone who doesn't take Deion didn't watch football in the 90's, nuff said.

[Racer]

I've lost track if people are just playing around, or if they really don't get it? :)

I'm not sure if I was one of the people you were referring to, but this is how I see it. Suppose this year you could be guaranteed to have a player who would have an identical career to Deion Sanders. Would you take that deal or would you draft someone else such Darren McFadden, Chris Long, or Glenn Dorsey without knowing how their career will turn out. Most years I would take a player who was guaranteed to have an identical career to Deion (minus the leaving in free agency) although occasionally I might take someone with a lot of pre-draft hype like Julius Peppers or Reggie Bush had.

[Atocep]

Now, if you arbitrarily pick the 1982 draft class, you can't think "Oh, I'd take Marcus Allen over him in a heartbeat!" because in this exercise, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GREAT OR CRAPPY A CAREER THAT MARCUS ALLEN WILL HAVE. The point is we only have hindsight on ONE person.

I'm going to stop now, because this is ridiculous.

But if I went back to 1982 with Deion I'd know what Marcus Allen's career would like like at least to '89. :D

[dime]

one of the best playmakers ever, and easily the best cornerback of all-time. it's a no-brainer. I'd take him over anyone not named john elway or peyton manning.