Goldfish in Winnipeg, Canada (Hattrick)

[MikeVic]

I just got my team. I don't know what to post to get help, but this is my first time playing =) Here are my players, what should I do?

Your 18 players

Carl Saint-Laurent
98 000 C$, 23 years, wretched form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: inadequate

Chamis Gerayev
0 C$, 42 years, poor form
Has formidable experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

Danny Sutton
64 000 C$, 23 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Dave Long
16 000 C$, 25 years, poor form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: disastrous Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate

Don Connell
226 000 C$, 22 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: solid

Felix Aubin
170 000 C$, 24 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Gary Hiley
250 000 C$, 22 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: solid Defending: solid
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: solid

Giovanni Moretti
70 000 C$, 26 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and solid leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate

Jacob Dutton
78 000 C$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: disastrous Keeper: weak
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: passable

Joe Quick
80 000 C$, 24 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate

Julien Vanier
126 000 C$, 25 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: passable

Louis Lawton
14 000 C$, 28 years, weak form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: disastrous
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

Marjan Simonovic
18 000 C$, 23 years, poor form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Paul Marhoefer
28 000 C$, 24 years, weak form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: disastrous

Peter Badger
124 000 C$, 18 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: passable
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

Pierre-Albert Gamache
128 000 C$, 22 years, poor form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched

Ronald Dodd
60 000 C$, 27 years, poor form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: solid

Scott Sheehy
42 000 C$, 25 years, weak form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: passable Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: disastrous Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: inadequate

Who should I keep? Start? And where? Who to sell? :)

What should I do with other aspects of my team? The youth squad,etc.? I have 600K Canadian to start off with. Coach is pretty crappy.. wretched everywhere... :( What to do with Training?

Arena has a capacity of 7000... 516 club supporters...

I'm really new to this, so any help would be appreciated, thanks!

[sterlingice]

Noooo! It's the scary pink and blue money from across the border.

Roster
GK: Dutton- buy a new one
DW: Hiley, Vanier
DM: Aubin (offensive), Sheehy
WI: Sutton, Moretti
MI: Saint-Laurent (toward wing), Connell
FO: Quick, Gamache
SELL/FIRE: Long, Lawton, Simonovic, Marhoefer, Badger (sell)

Most obvious is you need to throw down that $85-$100K on a passable goalie.

How's your coach? I presume it's Chamis Gerayev. Is he solid or passable? If not, you may have to put down some cash to change that. His coaching ability is what you shoudl care about- his other stats are unimportant. Well, that's not true, look for leadership and whether he plays defensive or all out (all out is probably better- just ask some of the FOFCers who have had their coaches go defensive).

You have a great midfield with 2 solid playmakers. Hiley is a great defensive winger and all are young. Nice players to build on. I think with your two great middies at 22 and 23, you should work towards playmaking and strengthen that all-important midfield. Remeber to work stamina in the offseason to help out your team.

Wow- you actually have the players to run a 4-4-2. However, if you're training playmaking, you will want to go for a 3-5-2 to maximize the number of players you can train (6 middies and 4 wingers per week).

You need a couple of wingers: you can find a passable wing/inad playmaker, age under 20 for less than $30K if you look. You're fortunate, tho- you have most of the major bases covered. I'd try to find a young passable playmaker in the middle. Then you need to find a mass of 17-19yo trainees to make your second team. Don't pay more than $15K for them if they are inad in the stat you are training.

As for stadium expansion- it's expensive so wait until you see how much you need it. Your team is pretty good starting out and a couple of solid playmakers is a blessing. Fill out your team, cut away the fat over 25 and get an entire trainee team so they benefit from your training.

SI

[dacman]

When you pull up your coaches player card you'll see:

A passable coach who goes all out
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities.

The only really important ratings are bold. Try to get at LEAST an inadequate coach, passable is better, solid is the best (take whatever solid you get, if you get one). It costs $20,000 Canadian (I think) to change coaches, so you only get so many tries and its rather random.

Youth squad to maximum investment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ($40,000 a week for you, I think).

Double all of sterlingice's $ figures (he's counting American ones).

[sterlingice]

Double all of sterlingice's $ figures (he's counting American ones).

Oh yeah- I mentioned the colored paper and then forgot about it.

SI

[MikeVic]

Man, all goalies with passable Keeping are 300-400K at least! I don't know if I can afford this... I can't find anyone cheaper than this....

is there anything else I can sacrifice? What age range?

[MikeVic]

Coach:

Chamis Gerayev (8775691)
42 years, poor form, healthy
A inadequate coach who prefers a strong defensive game
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has formidable experience and weak leadership abilities.


He's pretty crappy... should I try like 1 or two random attempts?

[MikeVic]

Should I hire 4 assistant and 1 goaltending coach? How many of those young guys to fill out my team should I get?

I guess I would be getting wingers and midfielders to train for playmaking with these young guys, right?

[sterlingice]

One at a time...

Man, all goalies with passable Keeping are 300-400K at least! I don't know if I can afford this... I can't find anyone cheaper than this....

is there anything else I can sacrifice? What age range?

Just be patient: I cannot stress this enough. Two of us have gotten 19yo passables in the past week for less than $100K. You just need patience. Tomorrow night is a good time to buy. In general, don't look too much during the afternoon- that can get expensive. If you aren't patient, you'll end up making the mistake all of us made as newbies: paying $100K (CA) for one winger when you could have bought both of yours for that. Also, make sure you check other countries! That's where the bargains are.

Coach:

Chamis Gerayev (8775691)
42 years, poor form, healthy
A inadequate coach who prefers a strong defensive game
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has formidable experience and weak leadership abilities.

He's pretty crappy... should I try like 1 or two random attempts?

If you think you have enough cash, you might want to fire coaches until you get a passable or solid coach. But remember, 30 of those and you're in debt- they are very expensive! And that's without even purchasing a player.

Should I hire 4 assistant and 1 goaltending coach? How many of those young guys to fill out my team should I get?

I guess I would be getting wingers and midfielders to train for playmaking with these young guys, right?
4/1 is a pretty good place to start. Maybe pop up that training to 92%. Yes, you'll eventually want to snag playmakers and wingers because it will raise their playmaking. For middies, you will want people with good playmaking and other peripherals whereas wingers you will want good playmaking and good winger ability.

SI

[MikeVic]

Thanks!

Are those the only guys I should hire? (4+1 and put training to 92%)

How many players should I get for reserves (second team)?

How do I buy players from another country? My searches are always IN Canada, but BORN in another country.. I can't get it to search in other countries =(

Thanks again!!

[sterlingice]

How many players should I get for reserves (second team)?

How do I buy players from another country? My searches are always IN Canada, but BORN in another country.. I can't get it to search in other countries =(

The goal is to get an entire backup team of 11 eventually but just start with your main positions unless you have spare cash.

The second is a very common problem and I needed help figuring this out way back when. See the box that says "You're in Canada"- change that to whatever country you want to look in. Then the world is at your fingertips. There is no global transfer market but you can look at every country's that way.

Oops, and above, I meant to say $200K CA for a goalie.

SI

[MikeVic]

Wowowowow!!! This game keeps on getting better! I had no idea you could look for people in another country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've found a couple of people I hope I get...

I fired my coach, and now I got a wretched.. GREAT... I'll try twice more... then I'll stick with what I get =(

EDIT: I tried once more, and got:

Edward Simpson (8778667)
39 years, disastrous form, healthy
A inadequate coach who prefers a strong defensive game
A popular guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has passable experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Considering this is my first day, I don't wanna spend all my money =) I improved the leadership abilities from my first coach, while keeping the rest the same... ahh well. =)

[sterlingice]

Also, popular is the highest level for team spirit. Still, he's a defensive coach and only inadequate. You'll have to improve eventually but work on your team first if that's what you think you should.

SI

[MikeVic]

Yeah, team first is my thinking right now. This coach will do for now. When do I do youth pulls? Should I hire anything else (Spokesperson? Psychologist? Pysiotherapist?)

Do I have this right: in friendly games, you plays your second team, and in league and cup games, you play your best?

Someone rasied the bid on a Midfielder I'm trying to get >:( ahh well... thanks again for the help!

[MikeVic]

I tried a pull.. do I do one a day? I got this guy:

Roberto Triani (8783324)
17 years, passable form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is calm and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: Canada
Assessed value: 0 C$
Wage: 1 000 C$/week
Owner: Goldfish
Warnings: 0


Stamina: passable Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: disastrous

Yay. What an awesome prospect =P heh. I fired him since he is a piece of shit. ;)

What should I do with Ronald Dodd? He's on the older side, but has some scoring and set pieces...

[MikeVic]

Is it bad to get a lot of foreign players? Everyone is so expensive in Canada :(

[FrogMan]

Hey MikeVic, welcome into the Canadian FOFC Hattrick brotherhood :D

From what I've gathered, your the third Canadian from FOFC to come out of the closet and admit his addiction to Hattrick, after Bbor and myself. You are lucky, you got a team in a not so bad shape (position wise). You have agood chance of remaining in division IV. The team I received (around Feb 15 or so) was dead last, with no points, in its division IV league. I'm looking forward to fight my way back to division IV after my relegation to division V in two weeks :p

Speaking of Bbor, his Bbors and my Pintendre Pittbulls will be playing the first of hopefully many more Canadian FOFC friendlies. Maybe we could arrange for a friendly next week... I've bookmarked your team so you'll probably hear from me in a few days...

One tiny suggestion I could make is not even regarding your team, but about the supporter status. After subscribing to it yesterday night I gotta say it's worth it, if only for the bookmark possibility, especially for players you are shopping for on the transfer market. And it turned out to be only 8.94$cdn for three months, less than 3 bucks a month...

Good luck!

Later, FrogMan.

[MikeVic]

I'm glad I'm in the exclusive Canadian FOFC Hattrick Brotherhood =)

My friend signed up a couple of days after I did, even though we both don't know much about soccer, this game just sounds wayyy to good to pass up. We both said that Supporter fee is really not much, so if we like the game, we'll both buy Supporter. =)

I look forward to receiving a challenge sometime =) Although my team would do fairly poorly =D

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by MikeVic
I look forward to receiving a challenge sometime =) Although my team would do fairly poorly =D

You won't believe how bad my "B"/friendly/trainee team can be sometimes :D

FrogMan

[MikeVic]

How do I change my formation to 3-5-2? I can't find an option anywhere...

You're lucky you HAVE a "B" team :D Well, I just got my team... so I guess I can't be blamed :) Takes so long to buy someone though.

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by MikeVic
How do I change my formation to 3-5-2? I can't find an option anywhere...

You're lucky you HAVE a "B" team :D Well, I just got my team... so I guess I can't be blamed :) Takes so long to buy someone though.

Mike,

Two places you absolutely HAVE TO visit:
Hattricks (http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp) and
ABC of tactics (http://hem.passagen.se/hammervald/abc_of_tactics/abc_of_tactics_index.htm)

You should learn a great deal from those two sites, I know I did :)

Later, FrogMan...

edit cause I can't type...

[dacman]

This is how I do it (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/davidaclark/hattrick1.gif)

You can move a wingback to "extra inner midfield" as well, I believe.

[MikeVic]

Ok, thanks!

I need a quick answer.. how much is a 19-year old winger worth that has passable in winger and playmaking?

Thanks!

[MikeVic]

He's at 100K (Canadian)... I'm stopping right now =(

[sterlingice]

Time for me Q&A

Is it bad to get a lot of foreign players? Everyone is so expensive in Canada
They get paid 20% per week. Not a whole lot but I guess it's a little extra.

I tried a pull.. do I do one a day? I got this guy:
No, you get 1 per week. It's recommended that you do keeper pulls until your youth squad reaches at least inadequate since the odds of you pulling someone sellable is a bit higher.

Do I have this right: in friendly games, you plays your second team, and in league and cup games, you play your best?
Well, I haven't messed with cup games, but on the average you will play a friendly and a league fixture each week. You only need a player to play in one of the games each week to get credit for training. So, ideally, you would try to get 22 guys each to get a game in each week to maximize training.

I need a quick answer.. how much is a 19-year old winger worth that has passable in winger and playmaking?

He's at 100K (Canadian)... I'm stopping right now =(

I was watching him for a while until his price shot too high. He was unpredictable, too, wasn't he? It's worth watching those players but I wouldn't bid until you had a better idea about the market. I'm not sure what the market for a pass/pass is but I've been watching a couple lately, trying to snag one.

You can move a wingback to "extra inner midfield" as well, I believe.
As dacman showed, you don't push a button that says "3-5-1" per se but you relocate one of your others. If you are going to run a 3-5-1, move a wingback or defender up to "Extra inner midfield".

Also, those sites the Frogman pointed to are indispensible.

SI

[Doug5984]

"quote:
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Is it bad to get a lot of foreign players? Everyone is so expensive in Canada
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They get paid 20% per week. Not a whole lot but I guess it's a little extra."

Not every foreign player gets the 20% per week....i have yet to figute out which players get it and which don't....Am i missing something here? or is it random ?

[FrogMan]

Question originally asked by MikeVic
Do I have this right: in friendly games, you plays your second team, and in league and cup games, you play your best?

Answered by sterlingice
Well, I haven't messed with cup games, but on the average you will play a friendly and a league fixture each week. You only need a player to play in one of the games each week to get credit for training. So, ideally, you would try to get 22 guys each to get a game in each week to maximize training.

To this I'd like to add that I think the importance of your cup match will dictate who you play in your league and cup match. Not only have I not messed with cup games, I've never been part of the cup... But I read somewhere in the canadian conference that the Barrington Barons (top team in Canada) had sort of thrown a regular league game in order to have a better cup game lineup. He lost his league game (no biggie, I think he was 6 or 7 points ahead in the All Canadian division) but he won the Canadian cup. All of this while retaining complete training for 22 players... Talk about some high level strategy. We can all learn from watching other managers manage their team. Maybe you won't learn anything from watching ME manage my team but there are plenty of other sources... :)

Also gotta say that there's a difference between a friendly game played with cup rules and an actual cup game, just to make sure this is understood... Happy hattricking everybody!!!

Later, FrogMan.

[illinifan999]

Also, this is a closley kept secret. (Okay maybe not) For good bargains, look in Poland, Oceania, Eesti, and Denmark.

Sweden is like hell, never go there. Well you can, but chances are the prices are really high. And your youth squad will pay off. I don't even have to mention Tom Sanders. ;)

Be aware too that if you travel out of Canada for a friendly, even to the US, you will have to pay a fee, taht usually costs you more than you make. So try to get foreign teams to visit you.

Oh and don't know if you know this yet, or someone has told ya, but poisitional ratings don't mean much for coaches unless you plan to play them.

Solid coaches are overrated guys. I'm doing fine and dandy with a poor coach. :D 3 game winning streak.

[MikeVic]

Thanks! That Barons guy seems smart... wins almost every league and cup :( I have a friendly with a Waterloo team today... I just got this guy from Oceania for $46K Canadian...

Stelios Eskitzis (8710062)
18 years, passable form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Oceania
Assessed value: 32 000 C$
Wage: 1 392 C$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Goldfish
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate

I guess I overpaid... but I needed another midfield for training... :(

EDIT: How long until he arrives on my team?

[illinifan999]

Shoudl be there when bidding is over. You might have overpaid, but be happy taht if you train him, then you have a solid, and he is young, and um passable form. And he is powerful.

[MikeVic]

Can a player only go up one "degree" ever? Like, passable to solid, and that's it?

EDIT: What does "Power" do?

[MikeVic]

Damnit. I just noticed that I bid on a 34-year old defender!! Damnit!!!!

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by MikeVic
Damnit. I just noticed that I bid on a 34-year old defender!! Damnit!!!!

Now you gotta hope that somebody else will bail you out and outbid you. I know I won't :D

FrogMan

[MikeVic]

You know what sucks? I have some potential nice buys, but they end tomorrow when I'm at school :(

[FrogMan]

remember that there's always next week. It's not like you have to buy your whole youth squad in one night :D

Darn, those kids... :)

G'night now!

[MikeVic]

Yeah!!! Check out this guy I got for $14000CDN:

Erik Bernhardsson (8733720)
19 years, passable form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: Sverige
Assessed value: 70 000 C$
Wage: 1 360 C$/week
Owner: osse rif
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: disastrous
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched

Heres one winger :) Just need two or more now.. lol.

[sterlingice]

Yeah!!! Check out this guy I got for $14000CDN:

Nice pickup for only $7K (sorry, i always think of things in US). Make him bust his arse in the offseason and get his stamina up =)

SI

[MikeVic]

What exactlly do I do for the stamina in offseason? Do you mean after this last league game, set training to stamina? I read that offseason is 2 weeks. So is that 4 games played to improve stamina?

[sterlingice]

What exactlly do I do for the stamina in offseason? Do you mean after this last league game, set training to stamina? I read that offseason is 2 weeks. So is that 4 games played to improve stamina?

DK mentioned that the offseason is a perfect time for stamina training because you only play 1 game a week (only 11 players train a normal skill) but it affects all players on the team whether they played or not. Just remember that if you train twice in a row on stamina, it will affect your form pretty bad.

SI

[MikeVic]

So would stamina one week and form another be reasonable? And keep the same people for both weeks?

[NevStar]

That's a decent plan. Just keep in mind that if you train general the second week, only the players that actually play will get training. This is different from the stamina week, where everybody gets training.

[MikeVic]

For general, I guess I have to pick the guys who I want to improve their form...

[MikeVic]

DAMNIT!! I come back after school, and see that I got NO ONE that I wanted :( And they didn't sell for that much higher than I bid either. Stupid............................... :( I guess during the week, it's impossible to get people from other countries because of the timing issues.

EDIT: Err.. I actually managed to get this guy for $2000(Cdn.):

Viggo Rasborg (8452194)
19 years, passable form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Danmark
Assessed value: 40 000 C$
Wage: 1 440 C$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Goldfish
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor


Too bad my bid on a passable goalie didn't keep up :(

[MikeVic]

I lost my first game 3-0.. but my opponent was much better than me.

Waterloo Mac Daddys - Goldfish 3 - 0





Date: 3/12/2003 at 23:00
MatchID: 5107762
Arena: Waterloo Mac Daddys Arena
Crowd: 1307


1307 spectators had come to Waterloo Mac Daddys Arena this cloudy day. Waterloo had chosen a strategic 5-4-1 formation. The following players had been chosen: Godin - Läfvenskär, Rodmo, Hudson, Engel, Svensson - Loft, Gullstad, Tait, Allemann - Bazan.

Goldfish had chosen a strategic 3-5-2 formation. The following players had been chosen: Dutton - Hiley, Aubin, Vanier - Sutton, Eskitzis, Connell, Saint-Laurent, Moretti - Gamache, Quick.

Niels Loft of Waterloo received a yellow card in the 6:th minute for unsportsmanlike behaviour. After 12 minutes Waterloo´s Steve Hudson contracted a slight foot injury, but could finish the game. Goldfish had obvious problems in finding their positions. Simon Allemann of Waterloo received a yellow card in the 15:th minute for unsportsmanlike behaviour. 0 - 0 was the half-time score. The fortyfive minutes were dominated by Waterloo, with an impressive 74 percent possession of the ball.

The Goldfish players spent the half-time break getting a rerun of the teams tactical organization. The 46:th minute saw the home team take a 1 - 0 lead after a leak in the visitors right side defense. Scorer for Waterloo was Simon Allemann. In the 76:th minute Waterloo put themselves up 2 - 0. The visitors defenders lost the ball to Julio Bazan coming up from the left, who proceeded to cooly round the goaltender and knock the ball home. Goldfish seemed to suffer a certain amount of confusion about the organization of the team. After 86 minutes, Julio Bazan swiftly ran past Felix Aubin to put away the 3-0 goal. Seemingly due to lack of experience, Viktor Rodmo needlessly tripped an opponent just outside the penalty area, but the free kick that followed didn't succeed. After an industrious effort down the middle Simon Allemann could have closed the game off in the 88:th minute, but his finishing shot hit the post. Goldfish appeared unsure on how to play. The fortyfive minutes were dominated by Waterloo, with an impressive 83 percent possession of the ball.

The most dominating Waterloo player was without a doubt Martin Engel. Pierre-Charles Godin on the other hand, had a terrible day. The most dominating Goldfish player was without a doubt Julien Vanier. Carl Saint-Laurent on the other hand, had a terrible day. The match ends 3 - 0.

Can anyone make anything of this? I just take it that their team was much superior than mine.. and my team wasn't as experienced... Seeing how they had such crazy domination in controlling the ball :(

Waterloo Mac Daddys
Player rating and Team formation
Midfield: passable
Right Side Defence: outstanding
Central Defence: magnificent
Left Side Defence: excellent
Right Side Attack: wretched
Central Attack: wretched
Left Side Attack: poor


Goldfish
Player rating and Team formation
Midfield: wretched
Right Side Defence: inadequate
Central Defence: weak
Left Side Defence: inadequate
Right Side Attack: weak
Central Attack: poor
Left Side Attack: weak

What can I do to improve these? I'm disappointed by Midfield, since I thought I had good midfielders.

[MikeVic]

Wow.. I only made like 6000Cdn. from that game.. I'll be broke in no time :(:(:(

[illinifan999]

Midfield is very hard to get a good rating from when you just start out. It takes a very solid rated midfield to get a good midfield rating in a game.

[MikeVic]

is 200K (Cdn.) a lot for a young passable keeper? I can't see myself getting a keeper like that for any less :(

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by MikeVic
is 200K (Cdn.) a lot for a young passable keeper? I can't see myself getting a keeper like that for any less :(

Kinda, I was able to pick up a 19yo passable keeper, for $85K US last week...just look around on all the different markets and you will probably be able to find one cheaper than 85 US.

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by MikeVic
Wow.. I only made like 6000Cdn. from that game.. I'll be broke in no time :(:(:(

You won't make much money with friendlies. Your money comes more during week where you'll have a home league game. Weeks with an away league are tough financially at the beginning. I've played away for the last two weeks while buying a few young trainable dude and money is melting fast...

BTW, I've challenged you for a friendly next week. You should have a better idea as to how your team can do, since my team is nowhere close to the team you just played...

Later, FrogMan.

[MikeVic]

Is that game against you Frogman week one of two of the offseason? So change training for that game?

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by MikeVic
Is that game against you Frogman week one of two of the offseason? So change training for that game?

Actually, the way I understand it, your training setting on Friday will determine which player who have played this past week that will benefit from that training. Ouch, didn't make much sense. What I mean is that if your training is set to train playmaking before the training update tonight, this would mean that all your midfielders that played midfield (inner more than winger) would train in playmaking, not the players that would play midfield next week...

Anybody with more experience could corroborate what I'm trying to say?

If what I'm saying holds true (now you've made me doubt myself :) ) then that friendly, set for next Wednesday, would be in the middle of the last regular week of the season. Following what I think you wanna do (train general/stamina in the offseason) this week and next week, your training should be set at a more specific type of training, because you get to have 2 games to train players, and the following two weeks would be the offseason weeks.

Anybody feel free to help me... :)

FrogMan.

[MikeVic]

Whoo! We got ourselves a goalie for 128K(Cdn.)!


Ike Kenney (8760796)
19 years, passable form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 368 000 C$
Wage: 2 960 C$/week
Owner: zfan
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: passable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor


Err I think I was bidding against BishopMVP of these boards also... lol.

[BishopMVP]

You bastard ;)

It still lists his deadline as 5:05, right now its 4:48 and its done. Seems odd but oh well. You got a steal man, 64k for Passable Goalie/Passable form combo. Good luck with him.

[MikeVic]

Can someone give clarification of what Frogman said? I'd like to know about the training too :) Thanks!

[BishopMVP]

If you are training playmaking, on Friday every single player who played Inner Mid (Full Benefits) or Winger (About half) during the week's game(s) will improve some at that skill. If you have it listed as training defending for Saturday-Thursday, then switch to playmaking on Friday, only playmaking will improve. Hope that helps.

[MikeVic]

Ok, thanks! So the Wednesday game is affected by the Friday Playmaking. What is the Sunday League games affected by? The Tuesday training...?

[sterlingice]

Wow- $64K for a passable goalie. I may take on some strategic debt then and try to snag a couple of guys to sell for a lot more early next year.

The way I understand it, the game just looks at who played the previous week (both sunday and wendesday) and whatever the training type is on friday (well, thursday) when training occurs, that is what the people who played the previous week get credit for.

SI

[MikeVic]

I got this guy for 14K(Cdn.)...



Your 22 players

Adam Dorsey
74 000 C$, 21 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor


I'll be playing him as midfield. But he has inadequate scoring.. it seems as though he can play elsewhere? But where?

[MikeVic]

And I got this guy for 8K(Cdn.) =)

Alfons Zadylak (7894851)
19 years, weak form, healthy

A nasty fellow who is temperamental and infamous.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: Polska
Assessed value: 42 000 C$
Wage: 1 536 C$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Goldfish
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

I just need another wingback for my second squad... and I'll be happy ;)

[MikeVic]

AHHH! Let this be a lesson to all of you... don't do this stuff near 1AM.. I just fired my backup goalie................ :( :(

[dacman]

Originally posted by MikeVic
Ok, thanks! So the Wednesday game is affected by the Friday Playmaking. What is the Sunday League games affected by? The Tuesday training...?

I can see you're confused. Training updates always happen on Friday (actually Thursday night on this side of the world). I think what BishopMVP was trying to say is that it doesn't matter what your training is set at the rest of the week. If you change your training right before the update, it will be as if you had been training that new thing all week.

[MikeVic]

So, just to clarify... this Sunday's league game, and the next friendly... will be based on the training NEXT Thursday?