Big Brother 9:Till Death Do You Part (Spoilers tags all up in dis motha!)

[Cringer]

I have the webcast, so expect chat to include some of that.

Looks like an interesting season, teaming strangers up with each other and a current couple teamed up with other people.

spoiler if you don't have the webcast, it's good and makes me look forward to this season even more.
The secret is already out about the boyfriend-girlfriend, which I find funny as hell. The chick in the couple let out the secret because her 'partner' wanted the boyfriend's couple the first pair kicked out.

A couple interesting characters, the webcast gives you a better idea of people then the TV show, I suggest getting it if you can. Last summer I downloaded a bunch of it because I was on the road and the wife actually went to pay for the online feed before I did. (First three days are free)

[Jas_lov]

I missed the show tonight so I'll have to wait until CBS puts it online, but I've got the After Dark Showtime thing on now. This season might have some promise pairing people up, but how long will it last if 2 get eliminated at a time? Will it eventually turn into an individual contest? They should have brought The Donatos back and made them go up against each other.

[korme]

At first the idea seemed shitty, but that first ep. was kickin'!

[Ksyrup]

I only have so much time for reality shows, and with AI and Biggest Loser on at the same time, I only caught a few minutes of this. From what I saw, Paradise Island 2 will probably be better, in a trainwreck TV sorta way. And since it's on at 1am, they're even showing nudity (although thanks for showing the guy's ass cheeks last week, fuckers!).

[MikeVic]

I liked the first episode a lot. Before the season began I entered a pool and had to pick three people. Ended up going with Alex, Amanda, and Jen... my luck that Alex and Amanda were paired up. :p

[SteveMax58]

I am such a dork about this show. It's the only reality show I have to watch every year.

First episode was great...especially the RL boyfriend/girlfriend couple getting paired up seperately.

[Cringer]

I won't say who it is because people my cry, but with the internet feed I already know the first 'couple' to be booted out and I am actually a little disappointed with who was sent home.

All evictions are done live on TV except the first one, I don't understand the reasoning behind that really.

[Dunleavy]

First episode was great...especially the RL boyfriend/girlfriend couple getting paired up seperately.

the part where the couple who wanted to be paired together and weren't, and the couple who didn't wanted to be paired together and were was priceless

most interesting thing, by far, about the season is how the real life couple are going to play out. she admittied to being a party girl and he's admittied to being easily jealous

i'm apathetic towards the couples game but it's the seemingly lack of depth in most of the contestants that concerns me, several of them just seem too similiar

[korme]

I like Natalie's personality (boobs)

[Cringer]

I like Natalie's personality (boobs)

Fake but nice. I get distracted by how she looks like Sheri Oteri though and that is a turn off for me.

[MikeVic]

Fake but nice. I get distracted by how she looks like Sheri Oteri though and that is a turn off for me.

edit: I am so out of it. I thought you meant Natalie Portman. I need to go home.

[Jas_lov]

The real life couple is far better off being apart though. Strategically, only one of them has to win to stave off elimination. One of the good teams is probably going to get eliminated tonight if Cringer is dissapointed. It won't be Ryan and Allison of course, it won't be the two they promised not to vote out at the challenge. And it probably won't be Adam and Ma. Those two retards should keep fighting and losing challenges and hope the others will think they're weak and can't co-exist.

[Cringer]

The real life couple is far better off being apart though. Strategically, only one of them has to win to stave off elimination. One of the good teams is probably going to get eliminated tonight if Cringer is dissapointed. It won't be Ryan and Allison of course, it won't be the two they promised not to vote out at the challenge. And it probably won't be Adam and Ma. Those two retards should keep fighting and losing challenges and hope the others will think they're weak and can't co-exist.

Actually, what I am hoping for is they end up breaking up with each other while in the house. That is the best case scenario IMO, plenty of drama. I think her bio on CBS' website says something along the lines that she goes through guys pretty fast.

[Jas_lov]

I think they will break them up at some point. They only had 8 teams so if they don't, it'll make for a pretty short show and they need programming right now until the regular shows get back into full swing. For now they're better off, but if they're both still around when they break up they'll be easy targets now that Parker and Allison know. I'm not so sure that they'll both survive this week. Parker/Jen and Ryan/Allison are two of the stronger teams.

[MikeVic]

Whooo! Go Alex and Amanda!

[MikeVic]

dola

Amanda has a niiiiice ass.

[Cringer]

dola

Amanda has a niiiiice ass.

Watching the live feed, she is pretty annoying always adjusting her clothes and messing with her hair. So far it is funny to see how many times in a short period of time she will do the exact same thing.

Very nice ass though.

[korme]

Upon furthur review, I like Amanda's charisma (ass).

[korme]

Funny, I didn't read the posts befoe mine before I posted.

[MikeVic]

Funny, I didn't read the posts befoe mine before I posted.

You and Cringer have great taste. ;)

I liked that one shot when they were showing a girl sitting in the love boat still, and Amanda just happened to be in front of the camera. Or, her ass at least.

[Cringer]

Speaking of her ass, I was just checking out one of the sites that have insane people who recap everything that comes over the live feeds. I was trying to figure out why they can't sing (copyright laws), and came across some videos on one of the sites that are also posted on youtube.

One of the videos is her ass as she gets into a tub with a guy, she has on a g-string so the shot is all ass. Pretty damn nice.

[MikeVic]

Speaking of her ass, I was just checking out one of the sites that have insane people who recap everything that comes over the live feeds. I was trying to figure out why they can't sing (copyright laws), and came across some videos on one of the sites that are also posted on youtube.

One of the videos is her ass as she gets into a tub with a guy, she has on a g-string so the shot is all ass. Pretty damn nice.

Hey man LINK!!!

[MikeVic]

nm found it. : )''''''''

[korme]

I DIDNT want to admit this but I taped the showtime after dark 3 hr thing last night and fast forwarded thru it all. Natalie got in the hottub with the craziest g-string of all-time on. It was well worth the taping

[Cringer]

I DIDNT want to admit this but I taped the showtime after dark 3 hr thing last night and fast forwarded thru it all. Natalie got in the hottub with the craziest g-string of all-time on. It was well worth the taping

I think I saw a picture of that as well. G-string are 'in' for season 9 I guess.

Also, for those who don't know, Sheila (the 40 something woman) was Penthouse Pet of the Year in 1983, lived with Bob Guccione for ten years and has also dated Scott Baio.

Yes I am sick to be finding this stuff out. It really isn't hard to find though.

[korme]

Former "model" = POSED NUDIE

[Cringer]

Pretty big spoiler, the unexpected has happened....

Neal had some kind of family emergency and as of tonight is out of the house. Sharron is coming back in to replace him

Now that's some juicy stuff.

[korme]

Dammit I want to click that but I'm going to refrain

[korme]

I lied i read it, dammit

Is Neil a gay one? If not, why would Sharon enter the house and not Jacob?

[Jas_lov]

That is juicy. Thanks for the update. I had the After Dark show on and was really confused so now it all makes sense. There's no telling what can happen from this.

[Cringer]

I lied i read it, dammit

Is Neil a gay one? If not, why would Sharon enter the house and not Jacob?

He is one of the gay guys, the darker hair fella. Not sure why Sharon was chosen to re-enter the house, maybe because Jacob is a duche and the whole reason that team was voted out.

[Jas_lov]

The other gay guy is now in tears. He didn't even get to say goodbye. But he does have Amanda sitting on his lap.

[Jas_lov]

BIG NEWS!

According to James, Josh was crying because him and Neil kissed before he left. We were this close to our first hookup.

[Cringer]

Yeah, that was funny to hear about. Right now I am highly into Parker talking about how stupid his partner Jen is. It's funny stuff.

[Thomkal]

Well not too surprised who was sent home last night. That was just so stupid of that guy to tell Parker and his partner that someone was calling him a snake and then not saying who it was. Actually it was a pretty stupid lie in any case to try stirring things up. His ex-girlfriend almost saved the day though by saying it was Ryan. She should have said Adam and that probably would have been enough for Parker to get rid of that couple instead.

Damn its hard not reading those spoilers. Are they really about something important in the game?

[Cringer]

Well not too surprised who was sent home last night. That was just so stupid of that guy to tell Parker and his partner that someone was calling him a snake and then not saying who it was. Actually it was a pretty stupid lie in any case to try stirring things up. His ex-girlfriend almost saved the day though by saying it was Ryan. She should have said Adam and that probably would have been enough for Parker to get rid of that couple instead.

Damn its hard not reading those spoilers. Are they really about something important in the game?

About the spoilers, the last round give away a lot about what will be part of the next episode I am pretty sure. It is a big 'development' in the house that changes things up a little bit. Even knowing what it is I am waiting to see the next show because I want to see how CBS tells the story and what info they give. Not even the house guests know a lot.

[Cringer]

Watching a big ass arguement on the live feed right now, with several people involved. I want to see if this makes the TV show because there are a million F-bombs flying every direction, every other word.

There are pretty clear divisions in the house now.

[MikeVic]

What are they? Who was fighting?

[Dunleavy]

Watching a big ass arguement on the live feed right now, with several people involved. I want to see if this makes the TV show because there are a million F-bombs flying every direction, every other word.

There are pretty clear divisions in the house now.

wha happened?

[Cringer]

just incase they may try to show some of the arguement and because it is somewhat connected with an earlier spoiler I did near the top of this page, I will put this in a spoiler tag...

So here's the deal. The show they had on last night only showed Ryan and Jen telling their partners that they were a real life couple. Everyone has known for days though. I think some of the stuff that has been happening is the reason the producers held back, because it could make for a good show coming up Sunday.

One of the effects of everyone finding out Jen and Ryan are a couple is that some people in the house are paranoid that there are more people who knew one another before the show. It's pretty funny, and led to today's arguement.

Alex and James had been talking about people maybe knowing each other before, and James is certain of it but never suggested any people. Alex then went to Amanda (his partner) and pretty much told her about the talk and then said he (Alex) thought Amanda and Parker knew each other before. Amanda swore it was not true, which started the first spat because she said she already swore on a bible that it wasn't. Alex made a comment how he thinks putting your hand on a bible doesn't mean shit, she took offense.

Amanda then tells Parker about the whole thing (by yelling it through the house as she walks to where he is). Parker gets pissed, and because Alex mentioned James, Amanda does so as well. Parker heads outside and as he says later "made a public service announcement" to everyone that it was all bullshit. Amanda is right behind him and says James' name in particular. James simply looks at Parker and says "FUCK YOU!" Parker gets pissed, starts his PA announcement line and says Amanda was the one who pointed to him. So James says FUCK YOU! to her and then Parker again. It was then several minutes of yelling with tons of fucks and fuck you's from both side. Alex is trying to clear James the whole time of any wrong doing. It slows down some when Amanda starts running at James fairly aggresive, and then pulls up at the last second and just hugs him. Seemed like she caught herself in time watching it live. After that people went their own way and complained in their little groups. At one point Alex called Amanda (his partner) a bitch to her face, then brushed it off as less then it sounded. She plans on holding a grudge.

Several pairs seem to be unhappy with each other and it's odd and very cool. The two main groups in the house right now each have half of two teams in them, and some wild stuff may come from that if it isn't worked out.

[Cringer]

something just happen on the live showtime if your interested

edit: nm, i think he's lying


He was tricking them. They are super paranoid in that house, it was the perfect thing to do to everyone. Funny as hell.

[Jas_lov]

These idiots bicker about the most petty of things. Those two don't even look alike. But I bet there is another couple who knows each other in the house. There's a clip on youtube where Parker overhears Ryan and Jen having sex in the bathroom. It's pretty funny.

[Cringer]

These idiots bicker about the most petty of things. Those two don't even look alike. But I bet there is another couple who knows each other in the house. There's a clip on youtube where Parker overhears Ryan and Jen having sex in the bathroom. It's pretty funny.

It's funny, but the part before where she is trying to give him a hand job was better.

[Jas_lov]

It's funny, but the part before where she is trying to give him a hand job was better.

EARTH SHATTERING NEWS!!!!!!!!

Matt and Natalie had sex, oral too.

[Dunleavy]

what is going on with the season? i dont understadn why they're so stinge with the episodes. the show that was on on Wed i knew all the stuff that had happened. the way i see it that Sunday has a whole HELL of a lot of stuff to catch up on. remember how they left it Wed, Sharron wasn't even in the house

i'm watching after dark and will read the thread to catchup some, been a few days

[Cringer]

what is going on with the season? i dont understadn why they're so stinge with the episodes. the show that was on on Wed i knew all the stuff that had happened. the way i see it that Sunday has a whole HELL of a lot of stuff to catch up on. remember how they left it Wed, Sharron wasn't even in the house

i'm watching after dark and will read the thread to catchup some, been a few days

Yeah, the begining to this season seems odd, but I didn't have the live deed last time so I couldn't compare it.

I think it will begin to feel normal after Sunday's show. They will catch most of everything up and that is when they fall into their regular schedule of sundat, tuesday, thursday i think.

[Jas_lov]

I think this will be the regular schedule unfortunately. I like the tues, thurs, sun, but usually Big Brother is on during the summer so it takes the place of Survivor on Thursdays at 8 PM ET. But Survivor is currently on now and then CSI which they probably won't bump even though its in reruns. Anyway, I don't think anything big has happened. I heard some guy made one of the girls cry for calling her fat, but I didn't get the names.

[Dunleavy]

James the red head called Allison the recovering gambler fat so far as i know it but didn't see it

tonight's recap

natalie wins miss (i want) attention, which is somewhat funny b/c no one pays attention to what she wants to talk about FYI: she did quite a hot bars/pole dance tonight she did have five sips of wine tonight, which caused her to admittely get buzzed

Sharon wins most close ups, she seems to be a drift from the rest of the group (Allison and Shelia (older) do as well, Joshuah (gay) included in the is group)

[Cringer]

Sharon wins most close ups, she seems to be a drift from the rest of the group (Allison and Shelia (older) do as well, Joshuah (gay) included in the is group)

Well, I haven't really posted this because I thought I would hold off, but the two sides are pretty clear....

Parker
Jen
Ryan
Amanda
Matt
Alex
Chelsia
Natalie


James
Allison
Sharon
Adam
Josh
Shiela

The big thing here is that is clearly not listed as teams. Several teams are split as far as sides. I could see Ryan jumping into the other group if Jen (and Parker as her partner) gets evicted. Natalie is a bit of a wildcard. I put her in the first group because of her deep love for Matt and that she always talks to them. I could see her changing down the road though.

[Cringer]

I think this will be the regular schedule unfortunately. I like the tues, thurs, sun, but usually Big Brother is on during the summer so it takes the place of Survivor on Thursdays at 8 PM ET. But Survivor is currently on now and then CSI which they probably won't bump even though its in reruns. Anyway, I don't think anything big has happened. I heard some guy made one of the girls cry for calling her fat, but I didn't get the names.

I forgot about the Survivor thing. Probably will stay Tues. and Wed. then.


Interesting thing. One of the girls just said how she had the option of being on this season or being on the summer season. She chose this one because she has a friends wedding to go to in the summer. She isn't happy though, many of them are pissed about the pair twist to this season.

[Dunleavy]

there is a hot tub scene including getting undressed, dressed, and undressed again in the hot tub. Natalie at the forefront

as far as teams/group go, Allison, Sharon, Josh, and Shiela are a stone cold lock of a group. we'll see what happens and who they get to join them. Natalie countiunes to spend the night topless/hands covering

[Cringer]

there is a hot tub scene including getting undressed, dressed, and undressed again in the hot tub. Natalie at the forefront

as far as teams/group go, Allison, Sharon, Josh, and Shiela are a stone cold lock of a group. we'll see what happens and who they get to join them. Natalie countiunes to spend the night topless/hands covering

If you kept watching you saw that whole scene get even better, at least to the wife and I it did.

James just unleashed. Was funny as hell, and then did a taint smack for them. He got nude out on the grass to do it, and it was one of the funniest looking things I have seen. It did it again later, complete with a handstand that was thankfully on camera from behind him. After that him and Amanda wrestled and he slammed her onto the ground hard twice.

James just became my favorite BB houseguest ever.

[Dunleavy]

lol, i dont have the feed but i did see james "starting" b4 after dark ended, but this "slamming of Amanda" sounds really funny.

[Thomkal]

Hey guys what happened to using the spoiler tag?

[Dunleavy]

sorry i didn't think we said anything too critical

[MikeVic]

Yeah I don't know if I want to read any more of what goes on outside of the episodes. It makes me not want to watch the actual eps.

[Cringer]

You guys want spoiler tags for that kind of stuff then no problem I guess. I have been using them for stuff I think will pop up on the show, but this last stuff I figured won't even get close to being on TV except for some tiny clips at best. Plus, there hasn't been a show for four days and almost everything between the shows is going to be live feed or Showtime related stuff I would guess.

Seriously, the guy was doing stunts fully nude, I don't think they are even using heavy black boxes to put that on TV. Crap, YouTube may not even let that stay up for long like a lot of the live feed clips that are up there.

[Jas_lov]

I'm still trying to figure out why Jen and Ryan told everybody about their relationship. On the show tonight, they made it seem like Allison would have told anyway. Why would she? Allison had nothing to gain by telling and everything to lose. Once it's out there, you know people are going to try and break you up because you have 2 couples that can win HOH to keep them both safe. The other couples just have themselves unless they make alliances like Matt/Natalie and Alex/Amanda. They should have kept quiet about the whole thing and only revealed it if absolutely necessary. Now one of them will likely pay.

[Dunleavy]

i'm watching after dark, omg it's getting ugly

edit for an extra wow

btw there's something wrong with me b/c i can't figure how to set a spoiler

[Jas_lov]

And it all comes crashing down for Alex and Amanda. Expect them to be on the block this week. I guess the Natalie/Matt and Alex/Amanda alliance might be over. I missed the beginning. What started all of this?

To post a spoiler just put the world "spoiler" in brackets before you text and "/spoiler" in brackets after your text.

[Dunleavy]

ok i figured how to not spoil

if your interest, below is pure drama, MAJOR

Amanda implicated someone wanted someone else out of the house (i didn't see that scene) and it got around the whole house. everyone hated Amanda for saying it and slowly there frustration grew together. ofcourse there was a confertation, lead by Chelsea but it was Joshuah who went absolute ape shit on Amanda, every name in the book i mean full on pure hatred, and that was just the beginning. half the house took turns just bashing and bashing her. really ugly stuff. the night of hate ended with some one (Chelsea?) tell her to hang her self (her father hung himself). Amanda, as you might expected, started balling

[Dunleavy]

thanks Jas, figured it by testing in the Archives

[Thomkal]

thanks for the tags guys.

[Thomkal]

Oh and I could have done with all that "Hooded Warrior" stuff last night. How stupid.

[Cringer]

Just watched the episode from last night and what a crap episode. There are one or two major things that they didn't even touch on and will have cram it in on Tuesday early in the show. They wasted too much time on the Jen-Ryan secret coming out I think, and the hooded warrior thing was not even close to being worth on the show since it was just a time killer....

[Jas_lov]

Parker and Jen are gone. Parker sure did look pissed on the couch talking to Julie. Him and Allison got a bad break, but they also played terribly. Allison wasn't going to tell anyone and risk her own shot at the big prize.

Future strategy speculation:

James and Chelsea win HOH. My guess is that Amanda and Alex are goners. Natalie and Matt will be nominated with them, but won't be eliminated until the next week barring them winning HOH or something major happening. Then it's just 4 on 4 and anybody's game. The Sheila and Allison friendship is strong and may be something to look out for down the road. James/Chelsea and Josh/Sharon seem like very smart players so it should be interesting.

[Cringer]

surprising hook up.....

The new HoH's, in the HoH room, both with buzzes. ames and Cheslia making out for a bit off and on. I was pretty surprised by it knowing that she has kind of acted 'turned off' by him at times.

Beer is a good thing in this house. And they owed this to the live feed people since the eviction was taped and they had the live feed off all day.

The weird thing is that I am now hearing that Chelsia may have been yelling at James earlier in the night for something. James already told Ryan he made out with her.

Now they are talking about Sheila and Allison. They are now telling people they are NOT lesbian lovers after a week of saying they were to a few people.

[Scoobz0202]

I fucking can't stand Sheila and Allison.

[Cringer]

I fucking can't stand Sheila and Allison.

I want to bash their heads in. What sucks is I don't want them evicted because I like their partners, especially Adam. That guy is golden.

[Scoobz0202]

That is true. I'm not sure if it's worth keeping them in, for me. It's not often I get physically angry watching reality tv, but when Sheila is talking shit behind Adam's back I sometimes turn the channel due to the fact that I can not believe that that big of a selfish, arrogant bitch exists.

[Cringer]

That is true. I'm not sure if it's worth keeping them in, for me. It's not often I get physically angry watching reality tv, but when Sheila is talking shit behind Adam's back I sometimes turn the channel due to the fact that I can not believe that that big of a selfish, arrogant bitch exists.

Watching the live feeds she isn't really that bad towards him anymore IMO. he can be cool to him. I am surprised they didn't show how she made him breakfast for him on Valentine's Day.

I am just tired of Sheila and Allison's pow wows on the big bathroom chair every day for 10 hours a day.

[Cringer]

Also, since they are no longer allowed to have drinking glasses in the house for a week or two (can't remember which it is) because of the HoH competition, they are all drinking from giant bowls. It's pretty funny. They also got a wash tub to do clothes since they can't use the washing machines now.

[MikeVic]

I'm getting annoyed at Amanda the last couple of eps. I like Alex though. Jen seems like a pretty bad person. I wonder what happens when Ryan sees she was lying to his face.

I used to hate Sheila, but I don't mind her much now. She just seems genuine. I still think she's a bitch for her Adam bashing, but I don't see that much lately.

I don't like the gay guy. And I noticed that you don't really see much of Natalie.

[Jas_lov]

Interesting rumor on one of the players:

If you go to the CBS Community link on their Big Brother site, they have a section for each contestant on the forums. Under James' section, they're saying he's a gay porn star. They have links to pictures and videos and they claim it looks just like him with all of the same tattoos, but I'm not gonna click on them so I can't confirm it. Being that he was trying to get in Chelsea's pants last night, maybe he swings both ways.

[korme]

Hahahahahhahahaha^

[Thomkal]

Not sure if its talked about in the spoilers or not, but I'm surprised how little they dealt with Neil's departure. They didn't show him leaving the house, or anyone's reaction to his leaving, like they normally would do ad nauseaum on Big Brother. His partner didn't seem broken up at all that he was gone. So do we know anything about why he left?

[Dunleavy]

i'm guessing it's b/c no one really got to know him long enough

for those who have the live feed any other spoilers or funny things going on?

i dont really agree with how they televise the show. for me they could get more primetime hours out of it by either adding a 4th show during the week or go 2 hours one day. just doesnt seem like there is a happy medium to get into the show. primetime not enough and live feed too much. i'll watch the showtime feed once a week but if i watch it a second time it gets boring

[Cringer]

Not sure if its talked about in the spoilers or not, but I'm surprised how little they dealt with Neil's departure. They didn't show him leaving the house, or anyone's reaction to his leaving, like they normally would do ad nauseaum on Big Brother. His partner didn't seem broken up at all that he was gone. So do we know anything about why he left?

It came off real weird to me on the TV show. It did seem like a big deal on the live feeds. Josh (his partner) did actually cry over it because the two of them hit it off pretty quickly. Also, one or two of the chicks seemed to be upset over it.



for those who have the live feed any other spoilers or funny things going on?



How big a spoiler do you want?

little one...

They had a food competition and now people or on slop. Looks like mostly the girls are on slop except Chelsia. Not sure if it was boys vs. girls in it instead of partners. Slop really makes people unhappy....:D

The big spoiler is who is on the block now, but not sure I want to post that even in the spoiler tag.

[Cringer]

The great thing about this show, especially watching the live feeds, is that there are twist and turns all the freakin' time! Things you don't really see coming...

Allison and Sheila, best fuckin' buds of all time and annoying as hell, are fighting it out big time right now. Sheila is unleashing on her while Allison is calm and quiet while she defends herself.

Sheila just called Allison phony, Allison said Sheila is being pathetic, Sheila says don't talk to me the rest of the game. LOL!

[Dunleavy]

thanks cringer, i also didnt see that coming

[Cringer]

wow, I leave the feeds for a while and I miss the mega drama of the season I think. Wasn't a fight either....

Two people are currently out of the house.

Amanda, who has been on slop since yesterday, has been saying she is hypoglycemic since going on slop. Today it actually went from complaining and worrying to being serious. She collapsed and either a)woke up hyperventilating or b)had a seizure. She was walking with Natalie and collapsed. Natalie ran to get everyone, some of who ran into the Diary room to get help. James started yelling at Big Brother for help, and I guess they have an emergency button that Josh went and hit. Emergency people came eventually I guess, into the house and took her to a hospital.

Around the same time Allison seemed to have an allergic reaction to something is what people think, and she ended up going to the hospital as well. Neither are in the house at the moment.Everyone is talking like both are supposed to be back tomorrow, so I think they may have heard from Big Brother, I don't know.

As a side note, I guess Matt got yelled at when he tried to talk to one of the paramedics. They are not supposed to have contact with anyone.

The feeds went off shortly after Amanda collapsed, no video out there of the Allison thing. The feeds stayed off for a while.

[Dunleavy]

wow and geez

[Cringer]

wow and geez

Dunleavy, if you want a bunch of info from the live feeds there are several sites that basically blog it. One is hxxp://bb9dish.blogspot.com They even put up video from the live feed. It is a good substitute if you don't have the feeds but like to hear what is going on.

[Cringer]

update on my last spoiler....

Amanda and Allison are on their way back into the house I guess. Should be sometime soon. They went to the hospital or got checked out or something I guess and are OK and coming back in. Big Brother sent the house some flowers and told them the Slop Eaters could eat normal food for the rest of the night.

I guess Allison was allergic to peanuts and didn't know.

[Dunleavy]

the update seems like good news

i keep pretty well informed about the show Sun-Wed but Wed-Sun is a different story. i may check out that site but i like the setup we have now with you feeding me all the info :D

what are some of your thoughts on the season, the players, and the long term out look?

first thought was the people are all the same..then...Sheila is a jerk, Jacob is an idiot, amanda is annoying (what is with that voice), i felt bad for adam for a long time (b/c of sheila) now i'm thinking karma is having a laugh, not buying what james is selling, jen got what was coming to her, parker may have been in a tough spot but he didnt do himself any favors, sharon is my favorite person in the house (although maybe thats just b/c she doesnt say anything), josh crossed a line, natalie is a nice girl who wants attention but never seems to get it, matt seems to have played the best game so far, chelsia i need to see more confidence from her, jealous got better of alex although he had last laugh on parker and his loyality could become an strength in the game, with jen gone maybe we can get to know ryan, allison has done some things she didnt need to do and has got herself in trouble b/c of it i.e. the first and real relationship i.e. the second and fake relationship and whats the over under b4 she makes a move on ryan?

teams wise if Matt and Alex can form a deal with James/Chelsia this week then those 3 teams would have the numbers to crush the game with matt and Nat my bigs fav's to win it all

not sure why i spoilered it, no spoiler info in there

[Jas_lov]

I like Adam, hate Sheila. Like Ryan without Jen, hate Allison. Alex and Amanda need to go. Chelsea/James, Matt/Natalie, and Josh/Sharon are the three best teams. Matt and Natalie can dominate any physical challenge. Chelsea and James seem to be good at question challenges and work very well together. Josh/Sharon fly under the radar except for that one outburst by Josh and seem to be one of the more well liked teams in the house. I'm rooting for one of these 3 to win it or Adam/Sheila because it'd be hilarious if they went the distance.

Question:

I keep hearing James and Adam mention "Operation Condor" and they always laugh about it. What is it exactly? Is it just getting rid of Alex and Amanda?

[Cringer]

I like Adam, hate Sheila. Like Ryan without Jen, hate Allison. Alex and Amanda need to go. Chelsea/James, Matt/Natalie, and Josh/Sharon are the three best teams. Matt and Natalie can dominate any physical challenge. Chelsea and James seem to be good at question challenges and work very well together. Josh/Sharon fly under the radar except for that one outburst by Josh and seem to be one of the more well liked teams in the house. I'm rooting for one of these 3 to win it or Adam/Sheila because it'd be hilarious if they went the distance.

Question:

I keep hearing James and Adam mention "Operation Condor" and they always laugh about it. What is it exactly? Is it just getting rid of Alex and Amanda?


The answer to your spoiler is basically YES. There may be a little more to it, but nothing solid. Things change too much in the BB house.

[Cringer]

The margarita party they won the other day was supposed to be Monday, but because of all the crap that went down last night they gave it to them today. I forgot all about it and just now turned the live feeds on for the first time today....

The first thing I see, intoxicated Natalie getting a fake tattoo put on her coochie, so we got a little shot of that.

Then she wants them on her nipples, and of course there was continuous coverage of mega side boob as they tried to cover it up as they did it. Ended up with three full tit shots though. Her tits are horrible uncovered, way too rock hard looking. She got them too big for her small body.

Chelsia did the tittie ones too, but they didn't get a good shot of her jug that I saw.

[Cringer]

Live feeds and SHowtime viewers are getting one hell of a show right now. Best yet I think.....

[Dunleavy]

i saw two seconds of it b4 i switched to Dexter but I SAW BOOBIES!

[Jas_lov]

I started watching when they were having a kissing orgy in the pool. I saw Chelsea naked so that was pretty cool. James was naked too running around so that was pretty gross. Tomorrow's POV should be interesting. I could see either nominated team going home as they're both strong. It actually might be in James and Chelsea's best interests to see Matt and Natalie go home because they would then be the biggest physical threat. Adam/Sheila and Josh/Sharon are no threats in that regard. Plus, everybody hates Amanda so I could see them going back up the next week if they escape this week.

[MikeVic]

Maaan. The two teams I wanna win are on the block.

[Thomkal]

well no posts on the events of last night's show so that must all be in the spoiler tags. :) Glad both are ok. I wonder if the others on slop will get to eat peanut butter now that Amanda can apparantly eat whatever she needs to prevent a repeat episode. That was a pretty scary scene and BB couldn't have scripted it any better than to have it happen at the same time as the other medical emergency.

Sad to see the two teams stay on the block. I really don't like any of the other teams except Matt and Natalie, and I'm guessing they will be the ones to go. I'm surprised that Josh and his partner didn't try to make a deal with the two teams on the block. We'll take one of you off and not vote for the other if you don't put us up on the block or veto replacement when you get Head of Household. This isn't like regular Big Brother, all teams are in danger each week since there aren't many teams, and they shouldn't have been particularly worried about angering the HOH team by using the veto.

[MikeVic]

That Amanda stuff was scary to watch.

I like both of those teams the best too, so this sucks. I hate Josh so much too.

James redeemed himself just a bit by his actions though. He seems like a good person.

[korme]

Yea, I want Matt and Natalie to stay. There is just something about Alex that makes him come off as a douchebag.

Also, horrible game being played by James. Rubbing it in Alex and Matt's face is guaranteeing himself a spot on the line next week.

[korme]

I don't like Josh but I'm down with Sharon

[Cringer]

well no posts on the events of last night's show so that must all be in the spoiler tags. :) Glad both are ok. I wonder if the others on slop will get to eat peanut butter now that Amanda can apparantly eat whatever she needs to prevent a repeat episode. That was a pretty scary scene and BB couldn't have scripted it any better than to have it happen at the same time as the other medical emergency.

Sad to see the two teams stay on the block. I really don't like any of the other teams except Matt and Natalie, and I'm guessing they will be the ones to go. I'm surprised that Josh and his partner didn't try to make a deal with the two teams on the block. We'll take one of you off and not vote for the other if you don't put us up on the block or veto replacement when you get Head of Household. This isn't like regular Big Brother, all teams are in danger each week since there aren't many teams, and they shouldn't have been particularly worried about angering the HOH team by using the veto.

Yes, I had that stuff from last night in spoiler tags. I haven't been on the live feeds much the last couple days, and last time I really watched it was some crazy near orgy stuff going on in the pool that can't possibly make TV. I have kept up some with the live ffeds by reading blogs of it a little though.

I can honestly say that I have no idea who is going out this week. From the live feed reports it seems to have turned into one solid direction, BUT, it has seemed that way every day. People clearly wanted certain people out a few days ago, and then those same people have turned around to try and help those they were against at first. I am not even going to guess which couple is really going out at this point, and wait until the live votes to see who really goes which way.

One thing I do know is that the HoH competition tonight should be a battle. Everyone feels they must get it or they could be gone. I don't even know who is really targeting who the most, it has gotten so crazy.

I find it funny how people only watching the show like Matt/Nat and Amanda/Allison the most. Watching the live feeds I can't stand them really. I love James/Chelsia, and if it wasn't for Allison I would really like Ryan a lot.

[SteveMax58]

I find it funny how people only watching the show like Matt/Nat and Amanda/Allison the most. Watching the live feeds I can't stand them really. I love James/Chelsia, and if it wasn't for Allison I would really like Ryan a lot.

I dont watch the live feeds, only watch the shows. But I like/dislike the same people as you.

I dont particularly hate anybody this year, though...unlike some of the past seasons. I'm kinda finding the whole couples thing a little annoying at this point. I want to see more alliances, backstabbing, and strategy. At this point, it seems like they all have their hands tied...and cant play the game like they would(which i think would be more entertaining).

The couples thing was a nice gimmick...but I hope they split them up soon.

[Jas_lov]

I don't have the live feeds but I watch parts of the After Dark show whenever I get a chance, usually a couple times a week. I hate Alex and Amanda and hope they go tonight. Matt and Natalie are ok. I have no idea which one will go. A/A are obviously hated more because of Amanda, but M/N are physically the strongest team.

The other couples I like for the most part. Adam is awesome and got a bad deal being paired with Sheila. Don't care for Josh, but Sharon is very lowkey which is good. I like James and Chelsea, but I can see those two being eliminated soon, maybe next week, because they're a pretty strong duo. Ryan seems like a good guy and he also got a raw deal being paired with that bitch Allison.

I'm not sure if they're going to split up anymore. The writer's strike ended and I think the regular shows are coming back in April. If they continued with the couples theme, they'd get done about that time. 6 couples left, one goes tonight, three more go in the next three weeks leaving 2 couples for the finale the last week of March. I do hope they stretch it out and split them up soon though as that'd be pretty entertaining to watch.

[Mota]

That Amanda stuff was scary to watch.

I like both of those teams the best too, so this sucks. I hate Josh so much too.

James redeemed himself just a bit by his actions though. He seems like a good person.

It's hella scary in real life. My 4 year old son has Type 1 Diabetes and if his blood sugar drops too low that's what you get.

And yes James was great there. Too many people just scatter when stuff like this happens. Those who jump in and do what needs to be done are really special.

[Cringer]

Alex and Amanda are gone. The original targets of James and Chelsia, but it really did go back and forth this last week it was odd. Then Josh and Sharon get HoH, and I am not giving away anything too big here by saying it seems to have gone to Josh's head already. I knew it would after the way he reacted after winning the PoV last week.

I am not a big fan of him but Sharon seems to be damn good at this game. Would have been nice to see her play it on her own. I really do hope they break them up sometime as others have said. Another great aspect would be to see how people reacted towards their partners if they were no locked into them any more.

[Scoobz0202]

I am doing the two week trial of the live feeds.

The one thing that pisses me off with these live feeds is that it seems like they go to the "flames" when the shit hits the fan, and that is when I want to watch :)

[Ksyrup]

Ouch. Apparently only Matt Dillon can get away with being an insensitive moron in a show/movie.



'BIG BROTHER' STAR FIRED FOR 'RETARD' COMMENT
Post staff writer
YOUR FIRED: Adam Jasinski calls autistic children "retards," on "Big Brother".
February 27, 2008 -- THE "Big Brother" contestant who stirred up a controversy when he called autistic children "retards," has been fired from his job.

But Adam Jasinski, who worked for the United Autism Foundation, doesn't know he's been canned.

He is sequestered in the "Big Brother" house in LA, cut off from contact with the outside world, in keeping with the show's rules.

The foundation announced his firing on its Web site yesterday.

At least one advertiser pulled out of the show following the public outcry over the crude remark and several autism groups even called for CBS to cancel the reality series because producers chose to air the remark in an edited version of the program.

Jasinski was heard on the program saying that he could call children with autism whatever he liked because he worked with them.

"Mr. Jasinski will no longer work for or represent the United Autism Foundation since he caused tremendous damage to UNIAF," the announcement read.

[SteveMax58]

I'm surprised it took that long for him to get fired for that. I actually thought he might have been lying about working for them(maybe for some good-guy sympathy or brownie points in the house) since I had not heard anything more on it.

he doesnt seem like a bad guy...just a stupid comment to make on national TV, given his job.

[Jas_lov]

Tough break for Adam. It certainly was a stupid thing to say.

Anyway, how does everyone think Josh plays it this week? James/Chelsea are one of the better around teams left. Do you align with them or eliminate them? I think Adam and Sheila are a good team to keep around because they're weak and Sheila isn't well liked so taking them to the finals might be a wise thing to do. Josh could also strike a deal with Matt and create a foursome that could be unstoppable at physical and question challenges. I know Matt is gunning for James so it could work. The problem is that you don't want to go up against Matt and Natalie in the final 4. I think Josh and Sharon are both pretty smart so I'm sure they'll make a good decision.

[BrianD]

he doesnt seem like a bad guy...just a stupid comment to make on national TV, given his job.

He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he does seem like a stupid guy. He couldn't see anything wrong with his comment even when he got called out in the house for it. He doesn't seem to get that other people might feel differently about things than he does.

[SteveMax58]

He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he does seem like a stupid guy. He couldn't see anything wrong with his comment even when he got called out in the house for it. He doesn't seem to get that other people might feel differently about things than he does.


Yep...very true.

[Dunleavy]

Anyway, how does everyone think Josh plays it this week? James/Chelsea are one of the better around teams left. Do you align with them or eliminate them? I think Adam and Sheila are a good team to keep around because they're weak and Sheila isn't well liked so taking them to the finals might be a wise thing to do. Josh could also strike a deal with Matt and create a foursome that could be unstoppable at physical and question challenges. I know Matt is gunning for James so it could work. The problem is that you don't want to go up against Matt and Natalie in the final 4. I think Josh and Sharon are both pretty smart so I'm sure they'll make a good decision.

Josh has too many targets already to go after James/Chelsea... i think they will/have align'd this week. also seems like Matt/Nat (strongest team and Josh almost voted them out last week) and Ryan/Allision will go on the block. Allision will go on the block FOR SURE. Josh threatened her yesterday and now is not allowed within 5 feet of her (no joke), she says Josh said right to her face i'll slit your throat (wooooo :eek: ) Josh mantains he just said i'll make your week miserable. either way he crossed the line for the second time. Sharron was my favorite person in the house but now i'm not so sure, she's gone to dark side as a result of spending so much time with Josh. all this above from last nights showtime, i dont know of any updates from today

[MikeVic]

I've hated Josh ever since the Amanda thing. He seems like such a slimy person. I just want to punch his face. There was that instance too where he's all listening behind a wall to two people talking. Freaking guy.

[Jas_lov]

Josh has too many targets already to go after James/Chelsea... i think they will/have align'd this week. also seems like Matt/Nat (strongest team and Josh almost voted them out last week) and Ryan/Allision will go on the block. Allision will go on the block FOR SURE. Josh threatened her yesterday and now is not allowed within 5 feet of her (no joke), she says Josh said right to her face i'll slit your throat (wooooo :eek: ) Josh mantains he just said i'll make your week miserable. either way he crossed the line for the second time. Sharron was my favorite person in the house but now i'm not so sure, she's gone to dark side as a result of spending so much time with Josh. all this above from last nights showtime, i dont know of any updates from today

Yep.

Just read the updates at jokersupdates.com and it looks like everyone agrees that Allison needs to go. Ryan got a bad deal getting paired with her. Alex and Parker got screwed too. They all got terrible partners who are hated and that's the main reason they're going home. Alex and Parker were generally well liked, it's their partners who were despised. And now Ryan will take the fall for his bitchy partner. Next week, Sheila will probably piss someone off and Adam will end up paying for it. Sharon might go down with Josh's big mouth. This is why they need to split up soon.

[Scoobz0202]

Fired for that comment? I must say I am surprised..seriously.

[Dunleavy]

i'm sorry but i dont have any sympathy for Parker or anyone else that felt like their partner screwed them. thats the game, keep your partner in check or go down together. (well maybe Adam i feel bad for, he got yelled at b4 anything even happened)

getting back to Parker (and allison), stop complaining about how unlucky you are to get stuck as a third wheel in a relationship and realize you HAD A SECRET BUILT IN ALLIANCE FROM DAY ONE that you foolishly threw away and what's more put BIG ole target on your back

[Jas_lov]

How do you keep people like Amanda and Allison in check all the time? You can't! The big mistake Parker made was telling everybody about Ryan and Jen. He should have kept his mouth shut. If Allison told, she told. But you can't sit there and tell me that he wouldn't have had a better chance of being around if it was a normal single game or if he was paired with someone like Chelsea or Sharon. Nobody really liked Jen anyway.

What did Alex do wrong? Getting paired up with Amanda! You can tell your partner to be quiet and nice all you want, but you can't control them 24/7. James got lucky getting paired with Chelsea. Matt and Natalie got lucky as neither of them really bash other people or get in people's faces. Both are well liked. There is some luck of the draw in this!

[Dunleavy]

honestly this season i've seen THE worst "game playing" of all times. take Matt and Parker for example, they're probably in sequester comparing who had the worst partner but they completely ingore how bad a game they themselves played, thats what i dont get. only two couples are really taking their "coupleness" seriously and no surprise those two teams have won the last two HOH's

[Jas_lov]

Thank God they split the couples apart to liven things up. Nice turnaround for Ryan going from evicted to HOH. I was pulling for Adam to win though. Now it gets interesting to see which couples stick together and which ones go separate ways. I think James/Chelsea and Josh/Sharon will stick with their partners. Adam/Sheila and Matt/Natalie might split.

Sheila is basically screwed. She can't win anything and nobody really likes her. Everyone else is probably in decent shape if they can get with the right alliance. If I were Ryan, I'd probably try and break up the Josh/Sharon partnership.

[SteveMax58]

Well this should definitely get more interesting. Especially with the fact that now somebody will get voted back in.

My initial pick for this...Alex. He's the only one that didnt really come off as annoying, ignorant, or a complete ass. I think the most interesting person to throw back in would be Parker. I would think he'd create some drama and/or tension...good TV.

[Jas_lov]

I see what you're talking about on the CBS website. There's a vote to bring someone back. I also think it'll be Parker or Alex. The rest of them weren't very well liked.

[Cringer]

I think Amanda would be funny to bring back in, Parker for the drama.

[korme]

How's everyone forgetting Jen? Putting her back there would spell the end for her and Ryan this time.

[Thomkal]

Glad they split them up, the reaction on Sharon's and Josh's face and Aliison's changing reactions when she learned that she wasn't leaving, then was leaving were priceless.

Very happy that Ryan won HOH. Poor guy has been saddled with two very unlikeable partners in Jen and Allison. He'll finally get a chance to play the game. I personally think he puts Matt up after James exposed the way he was playing both couples with which one he was going to vote for.

Not that thrilled to see one of them come back in the house. I suspect it will either be Parker or Alex because they got saddled with some pretty poor partners and viewers will feel sorry for them. I'd prefer Alex over Parker

[Cringer]

I am thinking Josh will be Ryan's main target this week. Nothing on the live feeds leads me to believe that (Ryan isn't talking yet), but I think he is a big target now.

[Scoobz0202]

How awesome would it be if Allison won the vote to return to the house.

[Jas_lov]

It would be a travesty if Allison won the vote and returned to the house. She would just get nominated and evicted 300-0 again the very next week anyway. Good thing she's got absolutely zero chance of winning the vote. Alex, Parker, and Jen are the only ones who have realistic chances of winning the vote.

[SteveMax58]

It would be a travesty if Allison won the vote and returned to the house. She would just get nominated and evicted 300-0 again the very next week anyway. Good thing she's got absolutely zero chance of winning the vote. Alex, Parker, and Jen are the only ones who have realistic chances of winning the vote.

+1

[Jas_lov]

Discussion about this week's noms and POV-

So Ryan very smartly put up Chelsea and Sharon to start with. Now that Chelsea has won POV, his new nomination will determine the balance of power in the house. James, Chelsea, Josh, and Sharon believe that Ryan will backdoor Matty. Matty vs. Sharon would likely lead to a 3-3 tie with Ryan sending Matty home.

Sheila, Adam, Matty, and Natalie believe that Ryan will backdoor James. James vs. Sharon would likely send James home by a vote of 5-1. Who do you put up?

[Cringer]

Discussion about this week's noms and POV-

So Ryan very smartly put up Chelsea and Sharon to start with. Now that Chelsea has won POV, his new nomination will determine the balance of power in the house. James, Chelsea, Josh, and Sharon believe that Ryan will backdoor Matty. Matty vs. Sharon would likely lead to a 3-3 tie with Ryan sending Matty home.

Sheila, Adam, Matty, and Natalie believe that Ryan will backdoor James. James vs. Sharon would likely send James home by a vote of 5-1. Who do you put up?

Unless something changes, which could happen, James is pretty much gone. If not him then Sharon. Ryan has told Matt about Josh's plan to backdoor him. The Bro-lliance of Matt, Ryan, and Adam will stick together for now, and are just playing with Josh. They have Josh convinced his plan is going to work and he will find out how screwed he is soon,

[Cringer]

follow up to last spoiler...

I hate to see James go, because he is my favorite in the house. What I will love though is the fact that Josh is going to be stunned once James is put on the block and Josh realizes he was being played and all his plans are crap. Josh is the guy I have come to dislike the most. He literally has the rest of the game planned out almost. He talks to himself or Sharon about who is going up next week and who goes, then who is on the block two weeks from now and who will go. He thinks he has the thing locked up, and to see him fall hard will be fun.

[Cringer]

This should be a great week of shows coming up, especially tuesday and wednesday.

[Jas_lov]

follow up to last spoiler...

I hate to see James go, because he is my favorite in the house. What I will love though is the fact that Josh is going to be stunned once James is put on the block and Josh realizes he was being played and all his plans are crap. Josh is the guy I have come to dislike the most. He literally has the rest of the game planned out almost. He talks to himself or Sharon about who is going up next week and who goes, then who is on the block two weeks from now and who will go. He thinks he has the thing locked up, and to see him fall hard will be fun.

More spoilers...

And just as expected, fighting breaks out. James gets put up, Natalie gets pickle juice thrown at her by James, water dumped on her by Chelsea, and her face shoved in Chelsea's stinky twat. I'm not making any of this up. Natalie and Josh are fought over whether it was a bigger sin to be gay or have an abortion. I've gathered all of this from reading the updates on jokersupdates. Should be a great show Tuesday and Wednesday if they show some of this.

[Cringer]

More spoilers...

And just as expected, fighting breaks out. James gets put up, Natalie gets pickle juice thrown at her by James, water dumped on her by Chelsea, and her face shoved in Chelsea's stinky twat. I'm not making any of this up. Natalie and Josh are fought over whether it was a bigger sin to be gay or have an abortion. I've gathered all of this from reading the updates on jokersupdates. Should be a great show Tuesday and Wednesday if they show some of this.

James is not out yet. Sounds like Josh is leaning towards keeping James over Sharon, because Sharon looks like she is ready to flip. So Josh and Chelsia voting for James to stay means they only need to convince Sheila to keep James. Sheila is now a key vote it looks like. That only makes it a tie though, so he may go. I give James a bogger chance now then yesterday to stay though.

edit: Scratch that, Josh walks outside after telling James he wants him to stay, and tells Sharon he is voting for her to stay. That is just insane, he didn't blink on either one. Josh and Matt should team up, they are the biggest pieces of crap in that house.

[Jas_lov]

Great show tonight. The couples are finally broken up and it's getting more interesting. I just browsed through the updates and still have no idea who's going home tomorrow. It's gonna be close. There are a couple people we know how they'll vote like Chelsea and Matt, but I'm not sure about everyone else. Should be another great show tomorrow with the returning houseguest.

[korme]

From watchin BB After Dark, it seems as if James is resigned to the fact that he is going home, even with people coming up to him and making mention of that fact nonchalantly.

He is gonna get some wild sex with ol' Chelsia tonight methinks

[Jas_lov]

Things can change quickly though. Like on tonight's show where it went from Bro Alliance to James on the block. I still don't know why Ryan turned on James as they didn't really do a good job of showing that. I don't know why anyone would want to keep James over Sharon. He's a good player and him and Chelsea are practically a couple now. But we'll see what happens. If Alex or Pahkah does come back tomorrow, it probably makes Matt's alliance even stronger. The last person Ryan wants to see come back is Jen. I'm 99% sure one of those three will be voted back in.

[Cringer]

Yeah, I wish it had been Josh go up instead of James. I wanted James to win. The funny thing about tomorrow night (it has to happen tomorrow night I think) when someone comes back into the house, is Josh is going to shit his pants. Everyone out of this house except Brandon had time to find out they don't like Josh. Brandon is the only one who would be on Josh/Sharon/Chelsia's side. I DO want Josh or someone to win HoH tomorrow as well, since Ryan and Matt could go up on the block.

[Thomkal]

well that was certainly a shocker for those not watching the live feeds. They didn't even mention James as a potential candidate to be backdoored, looking for that shock factor. I have to scratch my head a bit at Ryan's choice though. It's fine if you want to make a statement that this was his decision as HOH, instead of the House's, but why would you put up the guy who pointed out the fact that Matt was playing his couple and Josh/Shiela against each other instead of the guy who was doing all the playing?

[Cringer]

well that was certainly a shocker for those not watching the live feeds. They didn't even mention James as a potential candidate to be backdoored, looking for that shock factor. I have to scratch my head a bit at Ryan's choice though. It's fine if you want to make a statement that this was his decision as HOH, instead of the House's, but why would you put up the guy who pointed out the fact that Matt was playing his couple and Josh/Shiela against each other instead of the guy who was doing all the playing?

I am guessing tonight's show will deal with the aftermath of Ryan putting up James, because there is plenty. So here is a little backstory that they are never going to show on the TV show for some reason I am guessing.

On the live feeds I have heard Ryan say several times over the last couple of weeks, even before being HoH, that he just doesn't trust James. He likes the guy, but doesn't trust him. The other part of it may be talked about tonight so I guess I will tag it even though it isn't earthshattering....

Ryan, Matt, and Adam are what is being called the Bro-lliance. They have basically teamed up, with Natalie and Sheila on the outside getting enough info to make them feel like part of it but they are just using them.

At this point let me say that Adam has played it extremely good, because he has not given Josh/Sharon/Chelsia/James any reason to think he is in on it really. 1 or 2 think he MIGHT be in on it, but they are just guessing. They don't know that if one of the remaining 3 after James goes doesn't win HoH tonight, that they are totally screwed. Especially with someone else probably coming back into the house.

[korme]

Who is Brandon? You mean Jacob?

[Cringer]

Who is Brandon? You mean Jacob?

Yeah, same thing. The guy was hardly on the show and it was because he had a stupid plan from the start. He doesn't deserve to have his name remebered. ;)

[BrianD]

I'll be surprised if Ryan lasts very much longer in the house. I'm always surprised by how aggressive BB players get and how important then seem to think it is to show themselves in charge. By taking Sheila's money and then making his statement in the veto meeting, Ryan puts a huge target on himself.

[Cringer]

This is the best TV episode I have seen yet, just because they are screwing with everyone's heads. I love it so far. I really hope they vote James back into the house, but it's going to be close I think with James just missing out.

[Jas_lov]

I'm guessing it'll be 5-3 to vote Alex back in.

[Jas_lov]

And of course I was way off. Natalie and Adam's votes surprised me. I hope James comes back and wins HOH.

[Cringer]

YES! James is the man! Gay porn and all.

5-3, thank you Natalie and BB for not allowing people to talk to each other so she couldn't ask Matt what to do. Oh baby, this could be real interesting to see who wins HoH now. Or James could be gone again next week.......

[MikeVic]

I think that was the biggest bullshit. How can they tease that one of the listed people are coming back, and then frickin' James gets back in?? Bullshit. I'm done with the show.

[Cringer]

And of course I was way off. Natalie and Adam's votes surprised me. I hope James comes back and wins HOH.

Natalie blew me away, but I think she was afraid Allison or Amanda or Alex would come back in. The two because they are girls, and Alex because he would get more attention from Matt.

Adam really likes James so I am not surprised. He has been doing what he does because of the game and the 'side' he picked to play on.

[Jas_lov]

Ryan will definitely be in danger if James or Chelsea wins HOH. Those idiots voted back in the person they just voted out. Brilliant strategy!

[Cringer]

Endurance competition on top of it all, very nice!

[Jas_lov]

I think that was the biggest bullshit. How can they tease that one of the listed people are coming back, and then frickin' James gets back in?? Bullshit. I'm done with the show.

That was dirty. The point of bringing someone back in is to liven things up. Now it's just the exact same as it was. And we don't even get to find out who HOH is.

[Cringer]

Ryan will definitely be in danger if James or Chelsea wins HOH. Those idiots voted back in the person they just voted out. Brilliant strategy!

And did you hear Adam asking who voted for what as they began the HoH comp? Matt started saying right away he thinks everyone voted for him to come back in. Oh, the truth will come out eventually. It's going to be a fun and late night on the live feeds.

[Jas_lov]

Natalie blew me away, but I think she was afraid Allison or Amanda or Alex would come back in. The two because they are girls, and Alex because he would get more attention from Matt.

Adam really likes James so I am not surprised. He has been doing what he does because of the game and the 'side' he picked to play on.

Natalie is an idiot. Hey, do you know that guy who just voted out and said you were gonna keep? Didn't you shake his hand or something? Well, you can bring him back in to get revenge on you and your alliance or you can bring back Alex, Jen, or Parker which would make your alliance with Matt and Ryan even stronger. Such a difficult choice.

I can see why Adam voted James back in. I don't think James has a problem with Adam, but he could have made his broalliance even stronger and didn't. I guess he'll just keep playing both sides.

[Cringer]

I am getting pissed now because the live feeds have not been turned on yet. Why they are taking so long I don't know.

[Racer]

Why are they bringing anyone back anyways? They should have started with one more couple or broken up the couples one week sooner. I've never watched the show at all before this season and have only seen part of this season, but it seems somewhat similar to Survivor and allowing players to return to the game (Survivor Season 7) after being voted out in Survivor was a disaster.

[Cringer]

I think a couple things are going on with this season, all because it was an unplanned season. Mainly they are trying new things out, such as the couples. I also think the whole thing was set up to go however long they wanted it too. The ratings have gone up a little over the last few weeks and so they are going to stretch it out to a full BB season instead of having a short one like it looked like at first.

[Jas_lov]

If there was a 4-4 tie, would Ryan have broken it? Cause if so, I hope Matt wins HOH and puts Natalie on the block for her stupidity. One vote away from getting a stronger alliance and instead she brings his arch-nemesis back in. I still can't believe it.

[Cringer]

HoH updates to follow in spoilers, the live feeds are up

They came back on and Ryan, Adam, and Josh were already off. Matt is pretty quiet. James and the girls may battle this being the smaller people on the show.

[Cringer]

HoH update

Matt just dropped out. His ankles were hurting him

[Jas_lov]

LOL! Matt and Ryan's fate now rests in the hands of a Sheila and Natalie. I really hope James wins and Matt finds out Natalie was the 5th and deciding vote. Go James!

[Cringer]

LOL! Matt and Ryan's fate now rests in the hands of a Sheila and Natalie. I really hope James wins and Matt finds out Natalie was the 5th and deciding vote. Go James!

Matt will find out about Natalie voting to bring him back in I think. Matt knows he is one of the votes against, Ryan will probably tell him what he voted, and Sheila just told the world she voted for the mystery guest.

[Cringer]

hoh update

Sheila is gone. It is now Natalie versus James/Sharon/Chelsia

I think James can kick ass in this now that I have watched some. His bike riding around the country helps him bigtime IMO.

[Cringer]

natalie talking during the HoH comp about her vote....

She told James and everyone else she voted for him to stay. She said she owed him one, whatever that means.

Right now the last 4 are getting covered in a ton of foam.

[korme]

Glad glad glad James came back. At first, knowing it was Alex I was down to see him come back because he/Baller/Ryan/Matt would have been a major power, but James gets a chance to give a big middle finger to everyone in the game except for Chelsia and I'm looking forward to it. The softy in me was happy for Chelsia as well.

[Cringer]

2 hrs into the comp...

Sharon, Natalie, Chelsia, and James are still in it. Natalie is talking like mad, she won't shut up. She may be trying to annoy people on purpose or not, but she is. James just told her to shut up basically.

[Cringer]

Almost 2.5 hours in...

Sharon just dropped out. Natalie, Chelsia, and James left.

[Cringer]

Over 3 hours now....

James (and Chelsia a little too) got screwed about 10 minutes ago. The feed went away and when it came back James was pissed because they told him he couldn't do a certain stance anymore.

As I typed this Chelsia went down. Sounded like she fell, instead of gave up like everyone else. She was pissed.

Natalie and Matt are trying to talk James into giving it up. He is refusing.

Nat and James are the only ones left. I would have to say Natalie will win this, but James is going to fight.

[Jas_lov]

Natalie is looking good. I agree that she'll probably win it. She's lighter, strong, and doesn't seem to get tired. She's gonna eventually wear James out. James is doing pretty good though.

[korme]

HOH COMP

James looks very resilient but you can tell he needs to adjust about every 2 mins from discomfort. He's going to have to will himself to victory here- these types of things just suit women better.

Also keeps refusing negotiation offers from Nat- she says he could be safe for a week, even him and Chels and he says he only cares about himself (I understand why but man everyone knows you care about her), and I also understand why he wouldn't trust Nat, I wouldn't either.

[Jas_lov]

HOH winner...

Is James! 2nd week in a row someone goes from evicted to HOH. Natalie hung tough, but eventually got sick, fell, and threw up. Before she fell she made a deal with James not to put her or Matt on the block. James made a huge speech about how he wouldn't fuck anyone over like they all did to him this week because he ain't like that. What he conveniently forgets is that he did the same thing to Matt when he and Chelsea was HOH. He shook Matt's hand and said he wasn't going to put him up, then he put him up. Jame's response- "It's Big Brother." Now it's suddenly different now that he's the one who got screwed over.

So I'm glad that James won, but hated how he acted all high and mighty after the challenge. The deal could have also included Josh being nominated, but I'm not sure on that. I think Ryan is in grave danger though.

[korme]

WINNER

Nat dry heaves and James promises here he isn't going to "snoop to everyone else's level that fucked [him] over last week" and not put her OR Matt up. Then she crumbles to the floor! James wins!

[Cringer]

HOH winner...

Is James! 2nd week in a row someone goes from evicted to HOH. Natalie hung tough, but eventually got sick, fell, and threw up. Before she fell she made a deal with James not to put her or Matt on the block. James made a huge speech about how he wouldn't fuck anyone over like they all did to him this week because he ain't like that. What he conveniently forgets is that he did the same thing to Matt when he and Chelsea was HOH. He shook Matt's hand and said he wasn't going to put him up, then he put him up. Jame's response- "It's Big Brother." Now it's suddenly different now that he's the one who got screwed over.

So I'm glad that James won, but hated how he acted all high and mighty after the challenge. The deal could have also included Josh being nominated, but I'm not sure on that. I think Ryan is in grave danger though.

I guess this will be tagged, even though it is about old stuff....

The thing with James telling Matt he wouldn't put him up when he was HoH is all editing IMO. James told Matt that a day or two BEFORE he won HoH. It was a just incase thing, and Matt let it slide pretty easy.

As for James winning, that fucking rocked. I hate the deal to save Matt, but it tells me his target is probably Sheila. If not her then it is Ryan.

[Jas_lov]

Is a handshake still not a handshake? I remember when Matt confronted James about it and James said, "It's Big Brother." So he meant that everybody lies and does what they have to do to win. But now he's acting all high and mighty and it was just very hypocritical. He's going to have to lie to win so I just thought it was hypocritical to go spouting off about other people not honoring their word when you didn't honor your word just a couple weeks back. Other than that, I'm glad he won and would be elated to see Sheila go home.

[Cringer]

Is a handshake still not a handshake? I remember when Matt confronted James about it and James said, "It's Big Brother." So he meant that everybody lies and does what they have to do to win. But now he's acting all high and mighty and it was just very hypocritical. He's going to have to lie to win so I just thought it was hypocritical to go spouting off about other people not honoring their word when you didn't honor your word just a couple weeks back. Other than that, I'm glad he won and would be elated to see Sheila go home.



The one difference was that once James decided to do it he was upfront with Matt about it, and also told him the truth when he said Matt wasn't the target. (he was doing it because his only choice was to put up someone he was close with, or matt/nat).

James' problem was that over the last few days he kept hearing from everyone in the house that they were voting for him when they weren't. One is going back on a deal, not really a lie to me. It was a change of plans. Yes he still screwed him over some. What James is mouthing off about is that everyone was lying to him when there really was no need for them to.

That is something I have never understood about people in this game though. Why not be upfront with people you are voting out when you know they are definetly going.

[korme]

Cring


My suspicion is that people lie so they don't have to put up with hours of begging/pleading to change their own vote... it's an easy way to get the temporary heat off of you...

[Dunleavy]

ok i'm back and caught up on the show (although tivo didnt record sunday)

i loved the veto meeting, oh that was priceless. i wasnt sure what Ryan would do and it was good, even though i knew it was a possibility i still didnt see it coming till it happened.

no more couples i was okay with, seemed a good idea at the right time

i didnt like the twist of bringing back someone but man that turned out to be a lot of fun. i thought james had NO chance and then wow he had the votes

mad props to Shelia for uping her game, props to James for picking up on it. Ryan and Natalie have to be the most clueless people (aka worst game players)

i resisted the temptation to see who won HOH, i wait till sunday, but this is going to be a big one. as much as i dont root for Matt he does get underdog smypthy. surely the James-Chelsia-Josh-Sharron group will run the house?

[Cringer]

Natalie isn't just a dumb game player, she is perhaps the least intelligent person I have ever seen in any game on TV, ever.

[BrianD]

Natalie isn't just a dumb game player, she is perhaps the least intelligent person I have ever seen in any game on TV, ever.

What makes you say that? Just because she can't count to 4, thinks there are 27 letters in the alphabet ("and" is a letter, right?), and can't spell cereal? Come on, that stuff is hard. :)

At least should go get all the way through the alphabet without singing it...

[Cringer]

So things are possibly going to go crazy in the house tomorrow when they have the POV ceremony. Since some may not even know who the HoH is at this point let alone the people on the block and the POV winner, the rest shall be tagged....

With James winning the POV on Thursday, Friday was a pretty quiet day. Things are heating up today with talking all over the place.

James has people coming at him from all sides with plans, and he has thrown a couple of his own out there. I have no clue what is going to happen because it is still changing and ongoing. Hell, Matt is still not admitting he voted for the mystery HG to come back into the house even though most think it was him. Here are the two main things going on though....

-Adam kind of made himself questionable to James last week, and Sheila takes advantage of that by suggesting to James that he take her off the block and put Adam up just to give the guy a scare. James had already been considering this though, and actually told Ryan earlier in the day he was going to take HIM off the block and hinting that Adam would take his place.

-Just a bit ago though Sharon was talking with James and the newer possible plan was to Take Sheila off and put up Matt. That is right, the same Matt James said he wouldn't put up on the block when he made a deal with Natalie. The plan would be to get Matt out, since he kind of holds that whole group together. James says 'fuck it, lets shake this house up' and the whole thing seems agreed upon.

I am not convinced either will happen yet, but James really seems to be getting the urge to make a splash. Going back on the agreement with Nat and putting up Matt would do that, and so would Adam going up. I don't care about James putting Matt up, because I would actually like Matt out of the game. I am worried though that down the line that Josh and Sharon will somehow use it against him to get him out. As people leave the house an alliance of four has to split at sometime......

[Cringer]

Something I really hope they show on national TV come Tuesday or Wednesday, hell I think they have no choice to show it since it is the aftermath of the POV ceremony.

Matt has now officially been back-doored onto the block, and he is crying like a little girl to Sheila about it. Actual tears and sniffing. It is one of the funnier things this season.

[Cringer]

oh yeah, it's official! the girls are all synced up and started their periods today. woohoo, they are all so happy! chicks are weird.

[korme]

After reading that spoiler, James sucks. All talk and then all lies!

[Cringer]

After reading that spoiler, James sucks. All talk and then all lies!


that makes you and Natalie the two people upset about it. ;) Seriously, Matt and Ryan have not become pissed at all. Yesterday Matt was paranoid about being back doored because it really isn't part of the deal. Matt and James have talked, James has been totally upfront with him for the most part. Matt is just all sad because he knows he is gone.

The only person in the house pissed is Natalie. Everyone else is pretty happy. Even Ryan seems all calm and cool now because he went from thinking he was gone to now being pretty safe even though still on the block.

doh!

[korme]

Finish your spoiler tag

[korme]

I'm not upset about who he backdoored, jthat post meant that I basically gave lots of respect to James for saying he was the only one that would keep his word, yadda yadda, and then he goes back on his word. Really, he proved he is just like everybody else, and if he was trying to establish loyalty, he definitely showed he has none.

[Cringer]

I'm not upset about who he backdoored, jthat post meant that I basically gave lots of respect to James for saying he was the only one that would keep his word, yadda yadda, and then he goes back on his word. Really, he proved he is just like everybody else, and if he was trying to establish loyalty, he definitely showed he has none.

I have no problem with someone seeing it that way and I am sure a ton of people do. I look at it as part of the game, and something that was basically done to him so he returns the favor.

Now, here is why I think James is a little better then Matt/Ryan. Last week when they did this to James, Matt was running around rubbing it peoples faces and being a pretty big ass. Ryan went and hid in the HoH room. Neither of them, as the main guys behind it, talked to James all that much and were super arrogant about it.

James on the other hand, just 20 minutes ago, was having a second long talk with Matt since putting him on the block. James is giving him the best advice he can about who to talk to to try to get votes. He was totally honest and cool with him by saying Sheila really wants Matt out, so she will be hard to talk to. Matt then offers a deal to team up with James if he will keep him. James says flat out, if you get the votes for a tie, then come talk to me about it.

I do give credit to Matt some though. After being a complete dick last week, he is taking this well. He hasn't been an ass, and said straight up to James "you won." Both are saying it's just a game and blah blah blah.

[Jas_lov]

This is why I said James was a hypocrite for making that big speech after he won HOH. He made a deal and didn't stick to it like he said he would. Now he's just got Natalie more determined than ever coming after him. If it somehow does go 3-3, we all know James won't keep his word so that's irrelevant. Everyone has to lie to win so don't act like you're better than everyone else because you're not. Josh and Sharon need to secretly get Natalie and Ryan on their side. If one of those two wins HOH, they can use them to eliminate James and Chelsea.

Ultimately, Matt has nobody to blame but Natalie and Adam. Those two idiots didn't realize they had it all once James was voted out. All they had to do was vote for the mystery box and they'd coast to the final 6. Instead, they voted James back in and assumed that he wouldn't hold a grudge. James was backdoored for a reason and those morons didn't even understand why. Without James, Natalie would likely be HOH right now and they'd be lounging in the HOH room deciding whether to eliminate Josh or Chelsea.

[Jas_lov]

A. BALLER WINS HOH!!!!!!! It should stay fairly interesting now with Josh/Sharon and James/Chelsea probably having to campaign against each other. I'm guessing Adam will stay with Natalie, Ryan, and Sheila.

[SteveMax58]

A. BALLER WINS HOH!!!!!!! It should stay fairly interesting now with Josh/Sharon and James/Chelsea probably having to campaign against each other. I'm guessing Adam will stay with Natalie, Ryan, and Sheila.

Yeah, I would think thats the smart move for him to take...but Adam is a pretty dumb man who is easily manipulated.

On a second thought...did anybody else cringe when Ryan and James were talking (before the last nomination ceremony) and thinking...You idiot Ryan. You should be telling James that you only put him up because he violated your "bro alliance" by being involved with conspiring against Matt.

I think he had a decent shot at staying off the block if he just said that while pointing out that everybody else lied to your face...and he(Ryan) didnt. Oh well..Ryan probably got lucky to have Matt get put on the bllock, since I dont think he stays against anybody else.

All in all...Natalie & Adam are stupid for voting James back in...James probably did the best thing he could by getting Matt out...Sheila continues to fly under the radar...Sharon, Josh, or Chelsea will probably be on the block this week,...and Adam is probably going to make a move this week that ends up being not in his interests and really stupid.

The show has gotten much better since they split the couples up though.

[Cringer]

A. BALLER WINS HOH!!!!!!! It should stay fairly interesting now with Josh/Sharon and James/Chelsea probably having to campaign against each other. I'm guessing Adam will stay with Natalie, Ryan, and Sheila.

Not sure if you saw the same show as I did, but Adam, Natalie, and Sheila just tried to vote Ryan out of the house on my TV. And Ryan was pretty unhappy about all the crap Natalie talked about Ryan this week trying to get him out.

After the HoH you may have noticed the only people who got excited was Nat and Sheila. Ryan was over with James and Josh.

BTW, you heard Matt say he thought he had the votes and here is why he thought that (which I thought sucked they didn't show tonight)...

James, Chelsia, James, and Sharon have spent the last two days making it look like they were splitting up and everyone was buying it. Part of it was to put both Adam and Sheila on the spot and do what they did, vote against Ryan. If Adam knew everyone was going to vote for Ryan to stay he would have done the same, as everyone in the house pretty much knows Adam will do as the majority does. The other reason they did this was to get it so Ryan felt he owed them some.

We will see if it works but so far so good IMO. Adam is also the one of that group who can be talked into doing something. Sheila and Nat have already been working him tonight now.

I say a good chance Josh goes next week though, and that may be best for Chelsia and James and Sharon actually.

[Jas_lov]

Adam did vote against Ryan tonight, but that's because Matt was on the block. I seriously doubt Ryan will hold a grudge about that this week with Baller being HOH and all. Those 4 have control of the house again. Does Ryan ever show much emotion? Not that I've seen. James and Chelsea's little trojan horse trick is likely over. They've been hanging out a lot more and it doesn't take a genius to see that Chelsea ended up voting out Matt. Sheila kinda figured it out a couple days ago and I'm sure she's on to their little game now.

[Cringer]

Adam did vote against Ryan tonight, but that's because Matt was on the block. I seriously doubt Ryan will hold a grudge about that this week with Baller being HOH and all. Those 4 have control of the house again. Does Ryan ever show much emotion? Not that I've seen. James and Chelsea's little trojan horse trick is likely over. They've been hanging out a lot more and it doesn't take a genius to see that Chelsea ended up voting out Matt. Sheila kinda figured it out a couple days ago and I'm sure she's on to their little game now.


Yes and no on a couple of those things. Ryan may stay with Nat and them, which just to me is the wrong move but I could be wrong. They even showed tonight how Sheila told Ryan she would vote for him and then turned around and campaigned to James for Matt. Right now watching what I am watching I would say he is.

The trojan horse trick wasn't meant to go past today really, so yes it is pretty much over. Sheila didn't figure anything out though, she isn't smart enough for that, she just wanted what James wanted and that was for a 3-3 vote. That was blind luck.

Going to be an interesting week though, and tonight and tomorrow are key since nominations will happen tomorrow.

[Jas_lov]

Ryan will be fully on board. Adam is still his buddy and he's HOH. Once again, they've regained power of the house. Ryan will be pushing for James or Josh to go so Adam then becomes the target and not him next week. Sheila can't be trusted, but she's worthless and can't win anything.

On the trojan horse trick, Sheila flat out asked Chelsea if she was acting. I think she probably knows by now that Chelsea is on the other side. If she doesn't, she's an idiot. If Adam doesn't breakup Josh, Sharon, James, and Chelsea, he's an even bigger idiot.

[korme]

What the hell is the Trojan horse trick?

[Cringer]

Ryan will be fully on board. Adam is still his buddy and he's HOH. Once again, they've regained power of the house. Ryan will be pushing for James or Josh to go so Adam then becomes the target and not him next week. Sheila can't be trusted, but she's worthless and can't win anything.

On the trojan horse trick, Sheila flat out asked Chelsea if she was acting. I think she probably knows by now that Chelsea is on the other side. If she doesn't, she's an idiot. If Adam doesn't breakup Josh, Sharon, James, and Chelsea, he's an even bigger idiot.

Sheila is dumb though, trust me. Watching/listening to the live feeds I have a strong opinion on this.

Really I have no problem with Ryan sticking with Adam, they are both alright guys to me. I just have a major hate for Natalie. She truely is the dumbest person to ever be on TV and she proves it more every day.

As for Ryan...

He has the so-called secret alliance with Josh, and is going to try to work in one of the nominations to be Sheila.

[Cringer]

Ok, a early guess on who is going home, based off of early post-HoH talk.

James is probably gone unless he gets a chance to play in the POV and win it, whether he is on the block or not at first.

[Jas_lov]

Sheila is dumb though, trust me. Watching/listening to the live feeds I have a strong opinion on this.

Really I have no problem with Ryan sticking with Adam, they are both alright guys to me. I just have a major hate for Natalie. She truely is the dumbest person to ever be on TV and she proves it more every day.

As for Ryan...

He has the so-called secret alliance with Josh, and is going to try to work in one of the nominations to be Sheila.

Natalie, Adam, and Sheila are all dumb. They already figured out Chelsea's plan earlier tonight though. Adam, Ryan, and Natalie were talking about it and they know she was lying. I think James or Josh will go home. I know they don't trust Sheila, but she's no threat. James and Josh are and I think one of them goes home. Notice how they're both throwing each other under the bus which is enjoyable to watch.

And the trojan horse trick was Chelsea and James faking having a fight and Chelsea infiltrating the other side of the house. She started hanging out with Matt, Natalie, Ryan, and Adam and keeping her distance from James. I think she even promised Matt her vote.

[Cringer]

Yeah, I know what you mean by the Trojan Horse trick. I never saw anything where they figured it out. If you mean they figured it out tonight after the vote then yeah, they probably did. THey all knew it would be figured out by then though. One of the big keys to doing the whole thing was to see about prying Ryan away from the others, and just for the joy of making Matt think he was going to stay. All of yesterday Matt thought he was going to stay and that was when they got joy out of the whole trick. Matt was a totally different person when he thought he was going/staying.

Natalie is driving me nuts. I may not be able to listen much more tonight. lol

[Dunleavy]

just watching primetime now, what really stood out for me on Wed's show was how smartly Chelsia played the HOH Competition, she played it like a champ only to get nudged out by a half brilliant half cluess Adam

my first though was that the Bro's alliance would reform around the pool table and Adam wouldn't put James on the block, but Shelia could do a number on Adam and change that. mostly likely to go on the block in order Josh, Sharron, James put i havent seen any of the live feeds so i could be wrong with it being James instead of Sharron or James backdoored

[korme]

My guess from watching bits and pieces of the After Dark, it'll be James and Chelsia - and Adam could use the reasoning as the same that James used for putting Matty up

[Cringer]

woohoo, a lot has happened in a day and a half. big spoiler with nominations, and PoV stuff...

James and Chelsia were put up yesterday. The drawing to see who plays in the PoV comp was yesterday already and everyone was on edge.

Then they get their 7 a.m. wake up call from Evel Dick in the house, though they cut the feeds off a split second before it happened. The feeds stayed off until just a bit ago meaning the Veto comp was going on.

They are back on and HAHAHAAAA! to Natalie, James won the Veto comp.

Chelsia will probably go home now, and it looks like Sharon may go up against her.

[Jas_lov]

Josh was just talking about BB tailoring games to suit who they want to win. They definitely did it with this POV. No way Chelsia beats James in a drinking gross stuff challenge.

I think Josh and Sharon are playing really well right now. Sharon volunteered to go on the block so Chelsia would go home and Josh wouldn't. James stays around and as long as he's still there, he's the biggest target and not Josh.

Same goes for Ryan and Adam. Sheila and Natalie aren't well liked by the other side and as long as they're around, Ryan and Adam can sneak by. But even though Sheila is annoying, she's weak in challenges and I think it'd be a mistake to get rid of her before Ryan or Adam. She does a great job flip flopping and playing both sides though.

At some point down the road, I think Josh and Sharon need to turn on James and join up with Ryan, Adam, and/or Sheila. They will not be able to beat James in an endurance challenge. When it gets down to 3 or 4, there's always an endurance challenge.

[Cringer]

Josh was just talking about BB tailoring games to suit who they want to win. They definitely did it with this POV. No way Chelsia beats James in a drinking gross stuff challenge.

I think Josh and Sharon are playing really well right now. Sharon volunteered to go on the block so Chelsia would go home and Josh wouldn't. James stays around and as long as he's still there, he's the biggest target and not Josh.

Same goes for Ryan and Adam. Sheila and Natalie aren't well liked by the other side and as long as they're around, Ryan and Adam can sneak by. But even though Sheila is annoying, she's weak in challenges and I think it'd be a mistake to get rid of her before Ryan or Adam. She does a great job flip flopping and playing both sides though.

At some point down the road, I think Josh and Sharon need to turn on James and join up with Ryan, Adam, and/or Sheila. They will not be able to beat James in an endurance challenge. When it gets down to 3 or 4, there's always an endurance challenge.

I think the tailoring the PoV is BS personally. To say they knew James could be anyone in the house a a two part competition (drinking stuff and then the croquet game) is a bit of a pipe dream to me. Did they hope, I guess, but to say it was a challenge made for James and no one else in the house is a stretch.

As for Josh, I actually just finished telling my wife for the umpteenth time that in the end James will fall victim because of Josh's side deals. In the meantime he has sat with Chelsia for weeks not worrying about the side deal thing.

Sheila has actually earned a little respect from me today. She was sitting talking with just Sharon for a long time a bit ago (may or may not have been on Showtime) and she actually knows how bad Nat/Adam/Ryan are using her for right now. She is not as dumb as I thought.

Natalie on the other hand continues to impress me with her stupidity. She has been saying all day how she KNOWS Chelsia is jealous of her and Matt, and she knows she wants Matt. She also started talking about how jealous James is because of Matt, Ryan, and Adam being better looking then him. She has her head so far into outerspace and it's funny. She is also talking about how she will win both the next HoH and PoV, not even blinking an eye about the fact that she has been saying that for two weeks now....

[Jas_lov]

Cringer, they've been doing this for years. They did it last year with Dick and this year with James. They tailor the competitions to keep the more interesting players around. Crazy James is a gay porn star so he'll do just about anything including drinking anything.

Adam needs to tell Natalie to shut the fuck up and leave Chelsia alone. Does Natalie realize that Chelsia will be on the jury? She's always up in the HOH room and she's dragging Adam down. Shut the fuck up! I really hope either Natalie or James goes home next week.

[Cringer]

Best fight ever for laugh value. Simple spoiler, just the names....

Chelsia and Natalie, with Josh behind a door trying to give Chelsia lines

[Thomkal]

this is all the way down on page 3, what's the matter with you people? I think the strangest thing in the house the past few days was Natalie's "Prophecy of Eight" came true when Evel Dick went into the house. :) I like how she's not collapsed into a ball of goo since Matt's gone, and trying to play the game more. Like when she tried to convince Adam to put Josh up. That would have been stupid of course-they need to break up James and Chelsia, but at least she's trying now rather than relying on Matt.

[Cringer]

this is all the way down on page 3, what's the matter with you people? I think the strangest thing in the house the past few days was Natalie's "Prophecy of Eight" came true when Evel Dick went into the house. :) I like how she's not collapsed into a ball of glue since Matt's gone, and trying to play the game more. Like when she tried to convince Adam to put Josh up. That would have been stupid of course-they need to break up James and Chelsia, but at least she's trying now rather than relying on Matt.

Well, my only problem with the Prophecy of Eight thing is that it was a good guess. The dumbass has prophecies every day and most are way off. She has been saying for weeks she was going to win the next comp, she can feel it, it's her time. Hasn't won anything. Eventually, if you keep saying things over and over though you may be right. It also helped that Evel Dick hosting a show had been talked about among HGs since the show started. And Natalie has been counting crap in the house for over a month as well.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but editing made that look better then it was. Natalie is just plain insane.

[Jas_lov]

Reading through the updates from earlier today, Natalie said that she's going to win HOH this week because there will be 7 people left, her birthday is on November 7th, something about the bible, and 7 is her favorite number. So if she does win tonight, maybe she is a prophet. But I tend to agree with most others that she's just delusional.

[MikeVic]

So I'm watching today's, and missed yesterday's... what the hell happened to Chelsia?? She's wacko.

[Dunleavy]

... what the hell happened to Chelsia??

James

[Jas_lov]

Oh my God. She actually won. This is now 2 predictions she's gotten right. Good for Natalie. She deserves it. Maybe they can finally get James out this week.

[Cringer]

She deserves it? Seriously? What makes her deserve it, the stupidity? Maybe how she likes to throw the bible in everyone's face yet has 'sinned' more then anyone in the house, both before and since entering the house? Maybe because she is a first class liar and everyone in the house talks about how she just makes crap up? Seriously, I don't mind someone winning HoH and sending James or Joshuah home, but Natalie winning it just ruined the show for the next week because it just made it pretty predictable.

James and Josh go up, or they try to backdoor James. And I can hear all week how God wanted her to win HoH so she can get vengeance on James for what he did to Matty.

[Cringer]

BTW, what drives me nuts about most the people in this game is how they try to act like they are above anything the other people do, but do the same thing.

[Jas_lov]

She deserves it because she dominated the challenge. Everyone else was 2 or more spaces behind her until the last question. Who would have thought Natalie would win a question challenge? She came through in the clutch. Josh and James didn't so one of them will be going home unless they win POV.

People acting above everyone else drives me nuts too and that's why I hated James's post HOH speech about keeping his word unlike everybody else in the house. He was acting above everybody else and he ended up doing the same thing. Natalie does this with the bible. Jameka and Amber were the worst last year with all of the God talk and it was hilarious watching Dick call them out on it.

[SteveMax58]

BTW, what drives me nuts about most the people in this game is how they try to act like they are above anything the other people do, but do the same thing.

This is what annoys me most with James. For being a non-conformist-type, he sure does hold silly grudges against people. He reminds me of a selfish little prick...which I think is perfectly fine to be in the context of BB...but geez, he acts like he's on some moral plane that everybody but him falls short of.

But yeah...they all act like that at times, which is just silly.

On a side note, I have to say...as much as I think he's an arrogant pompus ass...Joshua is actually becoming pretty entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I like people who are there to "play the game".

[korme]

James & Josh could not be happy.

[MikeVic]

I hate Josh and want him gone.

[Jas_lov]

This is what annoys me most with James. For being a non-conformist-type, he sure does hold silly grudges against people. He reminds me of a selfish little prick...which I think is perfectly fine to be in the context of BB...but geez, he acts like he's on some moral plane that everybody but him falls short of.

But yeah...they all act like that at times, which is just silly.

On a side note, I have to say...as much as I think he's an arrogant pompus ass...Joshua is actually becoming pretty entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I like people who are there to "play the game".

Exactly. James is the biggest hypocrite of them all. I did like how he called Chelsia a raging bitch though. Chelsia got bitter because people saw her and James as a threat and wanted to take them out. I hated when she said it was because people were jealous of James and Chelsia. Nobody was jealous of them. She got outplayed, period end of story.

I don't mind Josh. I think he's playing pretty well so far. He hasn't been on the block and Sharon is his bitch. It may come to an end this week though. I don't really see Adam, Ryan, Sheila, and Natalie turning on each other until they have to.

[Bad-example]

James was lucky enough to have a second chance and he wasted it on petty revenge. I suspect he took it too personally when he was voted out. He not only screwed himself but Chelsea as well, and it isn't any shock that she would be bitter. I am glad they managed to get that scumbag Matt out, but it is a shame James didn't play the game better. It would have been much better television.

I don't like anyone in this house. I guess I dislike Ryan the least.

[korme]

I am definitely pulling for A-BALLER at this point

[MikeVic]

Yeah, I thought A-BALLER was ok before today. I liked him giving the money to Sheila. And then they show this little special on him today, and I'm pulling for him now.

[SteveMax58]

I don't like anyone in this house. I guess I dislike Ryan the least.


I feel the same way this year. I think Ryan might be the only one I could tolerate for an hour.

Although A-Baller might be pretty fun to be around. Probably good for some laughs(both "with" and "at").

[Bad-example]

Adam may be bug-eyed and freakish, and he may sound like an idiot when he gets excited, but he isn't nearly as annoying as most of the others. I would be fine with him winning.

[Dunleavy]

James was lucky enough to have a second chance and he wasted it on petty revenge.


yep. maybe Chelsia should have reminded him he can't nominate everyone in the house in one week so there's no need to threaten half the house. James way overplayed his hand. and another thing he is not a good competitor, he can win things through will when he needs to but is terrible in all other competitions. oh, and he's a big hypocrite as well. all that said i'm rooting for him the most

with the last two HOH's the house has lost it's balance. i guess we suffer through Nat, say good bye to James, and move into a new phase of the game. Hopefully Sharron or josh wins the next HOH

[Cringer]

This is what annoys me most with James. For being a non-conformist-type, he sure does hold silly grudges against people. He reminds me of a selfish little prick...which I think is perfectly fine to be in the context of BB...but geez, he acts like he's on some moral plane that everybody but him falls short of.

But yeah...they all act like that at times, which is just silly.

On a side note, I have to say...as much as I think he's an arrogant pompus ass...Joshua is actually becoming pretty entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I like people who are there to "play the game".

I am a big James mark, he is just the kind of guy I would get along and I have wanted him to win. With that said, he screwed up bigtime when he backdoored Matt. Nobody will trust him, and it was his own doing. I loved seeing Matt go, but the smart move would have been happy seeing Ryan go and letting it go at that.

James has actually been one of the more straight forward and honest with people in the house. If he isn't then you will see him just keep his mouth shut sometimes. He killed himself with his one main move in the game though and unless he wins PoV then he will be gone this week.

[Thomkal]

Well, my only problem with the Prophecy of Eight thing is that it was a good guess. The dumbass has prophecies every day and most are way off. She has been saying for weeks she was going to win the next comp, she can feel it, it's her time. Hasn't won anything. Eventually, if you keep saying things over and over though you may be right. It also helped that Evel Dick hosting a show had been talked about among HGs since the show started. And Natalie has been counting crap in the house for over a month as well.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but editing made that look better then it was. Natalie is just plain insane.

Oh I wasn't really saying I was taking her Prophecy of Eight seriously, it was pretty wacky the way they showed it on the regular shows. Just thought it was pretty wild when Dick came into the House to keep "fueling" it. And hey she won HoH this week so she's not 100% stupid, maybe just 90. :)

[Scarecrow]

Please don't make fun of Natalie - she has old timers.


Anyway, after this week she is D-U-N done!

[MikeVic]

I just think Natalie is very misinformed, that's all. She seems like a good person.

[Jas_lov]

I'm hoping that once James is gone we'll see some real gameplay and alliance shifting. As long as James is around, he'll always be the biggest threat and the person everyone wants gone. But once he's gone, who is it?

Without Josh, Sharon might go to Natalie and Sheila and suddenly it's girls vs. boys so I think Ryan and Adam should vote Sharon out over Josh if it comes to that. It's best to get Sharon and Natalie out before the next endurance challenge anyway. Josh, Ryan, and Adam should make a deal to the final 3. Get James out first, then Natalie and Sharon, then Sheila because she's the weakest.

[korme]

She didn't even say old timers, the common misconception. She kept saying All-timers!

[korme]

James goes off on Sheila hardcore but now I am so used to his shit that I wouldn't buy it. All he does is make people feel bad for him and then act like he will persevere anyway and he never did anything wrong and if he did there was a good reason for it. Anyway, he was all up in her face callin her a cunt bitch but Sheila held her own I guess. Then he comes in and does, in a less aggressive manner, the same thing to Natalie and Ryan and Adam both step in a little bit, Ryan calmly, Adam off the walls. Great stuff. Oh and if he doesn't win the PoV, there is no getting around it: he'll be going home.

[Cringer]

James goes off on Sheila hardcore but now I am so used to his shit that I wouldn't buy it. All he does is make people feel bad for him and then act like he will persevere anyway and he never did anything wrong and if he did there was a good reason for it. Anyway, he was all up in her face callin her a cunt bitch but Sheila held her own I guess. Then he comes in and does, in a less aggressive manner, the same thing to Natalie and Ryan and Adam both step in a little bit, Ryan calmly, Adam off the walls. Great stuff. Oh and if he doesn't win the PoV, there is no getting around it: he'll be going home.

Like James says, he is the target of everyone until he is gone. And yeah, going off on people at this point is not really working. Everyone is so full of shit towards each other that it has no effect really. Example; Natalie has now denied her BJ's to Matt for the thousandth time. Everyone in the world knows there was 4 of them, Ryan and Adam were in the same room and heard two of them with their own ears. Yet they sit there and let her deny it without ever calling her out on it. When Chelsia called her out on everything, and said to Natalie what everyone says behind her back, Chelsia was labeled a crazy immature bitch. So yeah, it won't really work for James at this point....

[Cringer]

nominations and PoV comp spoilers...

For those who didn't know, the nominations were James and Josh.

Woo-fucking-Hoo!! James won the PoV for the third straight time and of course he will take himself off. This means Josh is a sure lock to go home I would think, he certainly thinks so.

Sounds like the comp was some kind of guessing how much is in this or that, how much something weighs. Hard to tell.

[Jas_lov]

nominations and PoV comp spoilers...

For those who didn't know, the nominations were James and Josh.

Woo-fucking-Hoo!! James won the PoV for the third straight time and of course he will take himself off. This means Josh is a sure lock to go home I would think, he certainly thinks so.

Sounds like the comp was some kind of guessing how much is in this or that, how much something weighs. Hard to tell.

After last night's outburst, I'm glad he won and I hope he keeps calling Sheila a cunt. Sheila doesn't deserve to be there and she needs to go. But someone will drag her to the end because she's worthless.

I wouldn't be so quick to count Josh out. If Sharon goes up instead, Josh can get Ryan, Adam, and James. We know about Ryan and Josh's secret alliance. Ryan might be able to convince Adam to keep Josh. They don't want this to turn into boys vs. girls. Josh should make a deal with Ryan and Adam that he'll put James and Sheila or Natalie on the block.

[Cringer]

After last night's outburst, I'm glad he won and I hope he keeps calling Sheila a cunt. Sheila doesn't deserve to be there and she needs to go. But someone will drag her to the end because she's worthless.

I wouldn't be so quick to count Josh out. If Sharon goes up instead, Josh can get Ryan, Adam, and James. We know about Ryan and Josh's secret alliance. Ryan might be able to convince Adam to keep Josh. They don't want this to turn into boys vs. girls. Josh should make a deal with Ryan and Adam that he'll put James and Sheila or Natalie on the block.

Ryan can be a smart boy sometimes, your scenario is already in the works as of a short time ago. Going to be an interesting week after all.

[Cringer]

doh...interesting thing just happened Jas...

James has not been rubbing it in at all, been very friendly which is kind of his way except for his blow up. Anyways, as I said Josh and Ryan already talked about Josh staying and Ryan had suggested it to Adam just before that actually. It could happen for sure. BUT!

Josh was major down and quiet until the last 15 minutes and the talking with Ryan, and he actually had Natalie say (not sure I believe her) that if he got 2 votes she would break the tie and keep him over Sharon. But Josh is thinking anyways that Ryan could get Adam to do vote for him, and he has James. Josh all of the sudden starts feeling good, and it is showing on the outside. Possible mistake on his part.....

Sharon, Josh, James, and Sheila are in the kitchen. I think James noticed the change in Josh after his being away in the back rooms, and he turned to Sheila and said out of nowhere "You know what Sheila, I don't think it matters what happens you and I are always going to be out on an island by ourselves vote wise." The look on Josh's face was pretty good for a second. James has a pretty good idea Josh is not on his side as much as he thought before I think. This game could go several directions at this point.

[Jas_lov]

doh...interesting thing just happened Jas...

James has not been rubbing it in at all, been very friendly which is kind of his way except for his blow up. Anyways, as I said Josh and Ryan already talked about Josh staying and Ryan had suggested it to Adam just before that actually. It could happen for sure. BUT!

Josh was major down and quiet until the last 15 minutes and the talking with Ryan, and he actually had Natalie say (not sure I believe her) that if he got 2 votes she would break the tie and keep him over Sharon. But Josh is thinking anyways that Ryan could get Adam to do vote for him, and he has James. Josh all of the sudden starts feeling good, and it is showing on the outside. Possible mistake on his part.....

Sharon, Josh, James, and Sheila are in the kitchen. I think James noticed the change in Josh after his being away in the back rooms, and he turned to Sheila and said out of nowhere "You know what Sheila, I don't think it matters what happens you and I are always going to be out on an island by ourselves vote wise." The look on Josh's face was pretty good for a second. James has a pretty good idea Josh is not on his side as much as he thought before I think. This game could go several directions at this point.

The updates say James just went up to HOH and Natalie told him the plan. Now Ryan and Natalie are proposing a final 4 deal with James! Josh would be involved in that as well and they'll throw Adam and Sheila under the bus! Hopefully we'll finally see some real strategy and alliance shifting.

[Cringer]

The updates say James just went up to HOH and Natalie told him the plan. Now Ryan and Natalie are proposing a final 4 deal with James! Josh would be involved in that as well and they'll throw Adam and Sheila under the bus! Hopefully we'll finally see some real strategy and alliance shifting.

I just hit refresh to tell you that. haha. I just watched that.

I don't want to give too much away in my happiness so I need to spoiler this. James winning PoV not only kept him in the house, but it looks like it just blew everything in the house up. It is fucking beautiful, this game just got tons better for a week or two at least.

One interesting thing, right when James was in the HoH room Josh was in the kitchen with Sharon and Sheila. Sharon started crying because Josh was talking about how it's impossible to go against her and she is the ultimate pawn, he is a goner, blahblahblah. Sharon is going to be a little surprised.

[Jas_lov]

I just hit refresh to tell you that. haha. I just watched that.

I don't want to give too much away in my happiness so I need to spoiler this. James winning PoV not only kept him in the house, but it looks like it just blew everything in the house up. It is fucking beautiful, this game just got tons better for a week or two at least.

One interesting thing, right when James was in the HoH room Josh was in the kitchen with Sharon and Sheila. Sharon started crying because Josh was talking about how it's impossible to go against her and she is the ultimate pawn, he is a goner, blahblahblah. Sharon is going to be a little surprised.

It doesn't say in the updates I'm reading, whose idea was it to make a deal with James? If it was Ryan, I am very impressed at his strategies. So far, the best move in the house was Ryan backdooring James. It just didn't work out because his alliance was stupid. But now Ryan is covering his ass no matter who wins HOH. If Adam wins, everything is cool and they target James. If James or Josh wins, he's now covered. Who knows with Sheila but she'll never win anything. The secret alliance with James and Josh is brilliant.

[Cringer]

It doesn't say in the updates I'm reading, whose idea was it to make a deal with James? If it was Ryan, I am very impressed at his strategies. So far, the best move in the house was Ryan backdooring James. It just didn't work out because his alliance was stupid. But now Ryan is covering his ass no matter who wins HOH. If Adam wins, everything is cool and they target James. If James or Josh wins, he's now covered. Who knows with Sheila but she'll never win anything. The secret alliance with James and Josh is brilliant.

I am not sure 100% whose idea it was. I would have to say Ryan though. The guy shows some good gameplay at times and I am sure Natalie took him right up on it.

[Jas_lov]

I'm not sure there is a deal anymore. It's hard to tell what side Natalie is on. I don't think Ryan is really going to throw Adam under the bus. He just wants to keep himself safe and still be able to save Adam next week. He has to pretend that he's turning on Adam and convince James that Adam and Sheila are working together in case James or Josh does win HOH.

If James or Josh wins HOH and nominates Adam and Sheila as planned, Ryan and Natalie can save Adam 2-1. Then it's Adam, Ryan, and Natalie vs. just one of James and Josh for the next HOH. I don't think James and Josh would be that stupid though and they'd put up some combo of Adam, Ryan, and Natalie. The key for Ryan is getting Sheila nominated because they can send her home 2-1. But Josh might not even stay anymore depending on how Adam votes and what Natalie does if it's a tie. It's hard to tell at this point.

[Cringer]

I'm not sure there is a deal anymore. It's hard to tell what side Natalie is on. I don't think Ryan is really going to throw Adam under the bus. He just wants to keep himself safe and still be able to save Adam next week. He has to pretend that he's turning on Adam and convince James that Adam and Sheila are working together in case James or Josh does win HOH.

If James or Josh wins HOH and nominates Adam and Sheila as planned, Ryan and Natalie can save Adam 2-1. Then it's Adam, Ryan, and Natalie vs. just one of James and Josh for the next HOH. I don't think James and Josh would be that stupid though and they'd put up some combo of Adam, Ryan, and Natalie. The key for Ryan is getting Sheila nominated because they can send her home 2-1. But Josh might not even stay anymore depending on how Adam votes and what Natalie does if it's a tie. It's hard to tell at this point.

Oh yeah, well the deal as it started out lasted about 4 hours or so. Then Natalie decided to let her true piece of crap colors show once again and has decided to stab everyone in the back. She told Sharon and Sheila everything, and they still plan on trying to get Josh out and then having the 3 woman alliance. So Natalie is now lying to Ryan, Josh, James, and Adam, her former enemies and partners. Pretty weird shit. Adam is the floater, since he has been left out of everything and all sides want to convince him to go their way without filling him in as to what is going on.

[Jas_lov]

Oh yeah, well the deal as it started out lasted about 4 hours or so. Then Natalie decided to let her true piece of crap colors show once again and has decided to stab everyone in the back. She told Sharon and Sheila everything, and they still plan on trying to get Josh out and then having the 3 woman alliance. So Natalie is now lying to Ryan, Josh, James, and Adam, her former enemies and partners. Pretty weird shit. Adam is the floater, since he has been left out of everything and all sides want to convince him to go their way without filling him in as to what is going on.

I'm not sure what Natalie's doing either. She might just trust Sharon over Josh and since she can't play HOH next week, she wants to give herself the best chance of staying safe. Natalie would only have to worry about James winning HOH if Sharon is kept. I don't think Natalie trusts Josh or James at all and rightfully so. She's working on Adam right now. Josh keeps planting little seeds of the game turning into boys vs. girls if he's voted out. The girls should probably stop meeting together in the HOH room.

edit: Ryan just told Adam and Natalie he's on board with keeping Sharon. He said Sharon told him she'd put James up if she won HOH. They're going to keep it quiet to surprise Josh and fluster James before HOH. Might have to wait until Ryan and Adam are alone to see if this is the real plan, or just what they're telling Natalie.

[Cringer]

I'm not sure what Natalie's doing either. She might just trust Sharon over Josh and since she can't play HOH next week, she wants to give herself the best chance of staying safe. Natalie would only have to worry about James winning HOH if Sharon is kept. I don't think Natalie trusts Josh or James at all and rightfully so. She's working on Adam right now. Josh keeps planting little seeds of the game turning into boys vs. girls if he's voted out. The girls should probably stop meeting together in the HOH room.

edit: Ryan just told Adam and Natalie he's on board with keeping Sharon. He said Sharon told him she'd put James up if she won HOH. They're going to keep it quiet to surprise Josh and fluster James before HOH. Might have to wait until Ryan and Adam are alone to see if this is the real plan, or just what they're telling Natalie.

It comes down to this I think. Ryan and Adam are so scared of James geting an kind of an upper hand on them that they are letting themselves being manipulated by the women of the house. Good chance they pay for it down the line.

[Jas_lov]

LOL at Josh's new plan:

Josh read the rule book and has a new, creative idea to save himself. He's on slop and if he eats regular food, he can't participate in HOH or POV for 1 week and he is automatically nominated next week. He says they'd be stupid not to keep him and that may be the case.

If Adam, Sheila, or Ryan won HOH, they would put James up against Josh and James would go home if he were unable to win POV which would also be 4 on 1. Josh would be banking on this scenario since James would go home over him.

If James won HOH, he'd put one of them up against Josh. They'd still have 2 votes to send Josh home and James wouldn't be able to participate in HOH the next week. They'd all have a guaranteed final 5 spot.

I have no idea if this will work. Sharon's on slop too so if Josh does do this, she could just do the same thing.

edit: I think Jen did this last year and they only gave her a penatly vote. Ryan and Natalie will have to read the rules. I'm not sure if Josh is reading it correctly. If he is, it's certainly a loophole.

[SteveMax58]

Man...I only watch the shows live, and then I go back and read all the spoilers you guys leave.

But with all the spoilers in the last few days...I can tell it should be interesting tonight.

[Cringer]

LOL at Josh's new plan:

Josh read the rule book and has a new, creative idea to save himself. He's on slop and if he eats regular food, he can't participate in HOH or POV for 1 week and he is automatically nominated next week. He says they'd be stupid not to keep him and that may be the case.

If Adam, Sheila, or Ryan won HOH, they would put James up against Josh and James would go home if he were unable to win POV which would also be 4 on 1. Josh would be banking on this scenario since James would go home over him.

If James won HOH, he'd put one of them up against Josh. They'd still have 2 votes to send Josh home and James wouldn't be able to participate in HOH the next week. They'd all have a guaranteed final 5 spot.

I have no idea if this will work. Sharon's on slop too so if Josh does do this, she could just do the same thing.

edit: I think Jen did this last year and they only gave her a penatly vote. Ryan and Natalie will have to read the rules. I'm not sure if Josh is reading it correctly. If he is, it's certainly a loophole.

nice.lol

Man...I only watch the shows live, and then I go back and read all the spoilers you guys leave.

But with all the spoilers in the last few days...I can tell it should be interesting tonight.

I am not sure you want to read the last batch of spoilers until after Tuesday's show. Everything we have been talking about will be on the Tuesday show, and possibly some on the Wednesday show. In other words, it is all post-PoV comp and the aftermath. It is good stuff though and really an interesting week. The Tuesday and Wednesday shows should be pretty good.

[Cringer]

Well crap. Josh is gone, expected. Adam wins HoH.....blah. That sucked, James and Sharon both blew it on the last question. And now Sheila is making nicey nice with Sharon and James because you just know she wants their votes if she makes it to the final two.

Ryan, Adam, and Natalie hold the power if they stay together. If the 'Girl Power' alliance is real though then Adam and Ryan are screwed if Ryan doesn't win the next HoH. Hard to tell which alliance is the REAL alliance though. So it is a toss up.

[Jas_lov]

I'm sorry Cringer, but it's time for James to go. This sob story every week has already gotten old- I'm on an island, nobody likes me, I played a terrible game and my alliance sucked, blah blah blah. I don't want to hear it anymore. All James does is lay around in his bed and we're supposed to feel sorry for him because he isolated himself by hooking up with Chelsia. James needs to go.

It's 5 on 1 in the POV again and Sharon won't throw it like she did the HOH because if James wins, she's gone. I think Ryan, Adam, and Natalie are the real alliance. Sheila would lose 7-0 if she made the final 2 and everyone knows it. She'll get carried to the finals, but she has no chance of winning.

[Cringer]

I'm sorry Cringer, but it's time for James to go. This sob story every week has already gotten old- I'm on an island, nobody likes me, I played a terrible game and my alliance sucked, blah blah blah. I don't want to hear it anymore. All James does is lay around in his bed and we're supposed to feel sorry for him because he isolated himself by hooking up with Chelsia. James needs to go.

It's 5 on 1 in the POV again and Sharon won't throw it like she did the HOH because if James wins, she's gone. I think Ryan, Adam, and Natalie are the real alliance. Sheila would lose 7-0 if she made the final 2 and everyone knows it. She'll get carried to the finals, but she has no chance of winning.

Naaa, I am sure James is gone. I expected he would be gone by next Wednesday no matter what actually. If he doesn't win HoH, he gets put up and is gone unless he wins PoV. If we won HoH then he can't compete in the next HoH, and with a strong chance of next week being the double eviction week he would be screwed in the fast forward to get the second person out next week. His only real hope is one of two things. He wins PoV, and then gets the next HoH. Small chance. Next option, Sheila is nominated against him and Sharon wins PoV and takes him off and they are both safe. I think Sharon would do it, but I doubt we will find out.

My big problem with this is I don't really want anyone else in the house to win it. Sharon I would be fine with. Sheila might be funny to see win but she is annoying so no. I hate Natalie. Like Natalie, Adam and Ryan are full of shit with most of what they do. Adam less so I think, as he is seems like the one who is 'playing the game' the most. All those people can talk about being "the good people" all they want, but they have stabbed people in the back just as much as the others, including this last week.

This is the point where I back off the live feeds though. The house is going to be boring as hell.

[Cringer]

Doh. I was just reminded. Adam has promised Sharon in the not too distant past that he would never nominate her, because of his bond with Jacob. I wonder if that will hold true.....

[korme]

My feelings are that at this point, strategically, Ryan has played the game the best. He has strong, strong allegiances with Nat/Adam, and with them comes Sheila. He also had that talk with Sharon saying they'd protect each other and before that he had a secret alliance with Josh. He seems to be covering all of his bases, after being on the chopping block quite a bit earlier in the season.

I am fine with Adam/Baller/A-Baller/Big Baller or Ryan winning, and then after that on the flip side I wouldn't mind if James did the miraculous wins week after week and won.

[Jas_lov]

Doh. I was just reminded. Adam has promised Sharon in the not too distant past that he would never nominate her, because of his bond with Jacob. I wonder if that will hold true.....

Doubt it for the reason you mentioned in your other post. If Sharon wasn't nominated with James, she would take him off the block if she won POV because she knows she becomes public enemy #1 when James leaves. He's definitely not putting Natalie and Ryan on the block. He doesn't want to listen to Sheila bitch so she's not going up unless James or Sharon wins POV and he has to put up a replacement.

I think Adam and Natalie have played the best out of their alliance. If either of those two makes it to the finals, they should win. Ryan isn't hated by anybody and he's played a decent game so he wouldn't be a bad winner either. Sharon has done little. James has been evicted once already in individual play and he's played a terrible strategic game. Sheila is worthless, but I hope she's the one who wins POV and sends James home.