American Idol 2008

[rkmsuf]

I officially hate this fucking show. They set up these storylines to generate this temporary interest to drive ratings in the short term of their stupid auditions. Fuck them. It's a fucking joke.

Eat me Idol.

*no this isn't a complete surprise but fuck them anyway.

[rkmsuf]

Ok, one dola.


They can eat me.

[Flasch186]

maybe you shouldnt have kicked the band off of the stage, eh?

[rkmsuf]

ooh that was safe, take a risk, take risk.

fuck you

I hope that man/girl wins.

[korme]

I wanted Josiah

[rkmsuf]

I wanted Josiah

see, he was interesting.

just interesting enough for you to tune into this farce tonite I guess

what a sham this thing is

[JeeberD]

I hope that man/girl wins.

Which one was that? I don't remember any obvious shemales...

[rkmsuf]

Which one was that? I don't remember any obvious shemales...

oh come on

[JeeberD]

Dola-

I wanted Josiah

I couldn't get past the fake british accent. I also couldn't believe how far Okie politician boy made it. And Simon liked him? He usually goes OFF on people who sound "theatre", and brother was he ever "theatre"...

[JeeberD]

oh come on

Wait...are you talking about a man who looks like a woman, or a woman who looks like a man? I don't recall any of the latter but a couple of the former could fit the bill...

[rkmsuf]

Wait...are you talking about a man who looks like a woman, or a woman who looks like a man? I don't recall any of the latter but a couple of the former could fit the bill...

can't remember the guy's name but he's a guy I guess

some of the ones in the top 24 I've never heard of. that's great considering the face time given to others.


seriously, it was obvious josiah was out by the way the story was crafted and the play up.

the whole thing was bogus man. they really threw that kid under the bus the way it was produced.

[Mustang]

Wait...are you talking about a man who looks like a woman, or a woman who looks like a man? I don't recall any of the latter but a couple of the former could fit the bill...

Think he is talking about Danny Noriega.. (If I remember his name right)

His fans will be affectionately known as Danny's Fairies.

[JeeberD]

Think he is talking about Danny Noriega.. (If I remember his name right)

His fans will be affectionately known as Danny's Fairies.

I figured it was him or the Garrett kid with the crazy blonde hair whom I had never seen before...

[Mustang]

All I know is daddy likes Kristy Lee Cook

[INDalltheway]

I actually know one of the people that made the top 24. Luke Menard, wish him luck. He's a great guy and comes from a great family.

[Lathum]

Josia turned out to be a crybaby.

I'm glad he is gone. I could see getting very sick of him quickly.

[Lathum]

dola-

Carly is teh hot. Chicks with tattoo's turn me on.

[Raiders Army]

I officially hate this fucking show. They set up these storylines to generate this temporary interest to drive ratings in the short term of their stupid auditions. Fuck them. It's a fucking joke.

Eat me Idol.

*no this isn't a complete surprise but fuck them anyway.

What the hell are you doing here at night???

[Mustang]

dola-

Carly is teh hot. Chicks with tattoo's turn me on.

Plus she's Irish. Giddy yup..

[JeeberD]

All I know is daddy likes Kristy Lee Cook

I liked her hoochie dance at the end when they were introducing everyone...


For some reason I also like the virginal nanny. She's cute and sweet, even though she doesn't have any boobs.

[JeeberD]

Dola-

I also think the laryngitis chick and the chick whose dad died just before her first audition are hot...

[korme]

Dola-

I also think the laryngitis chick and the chick whose dad died just before her first audition are hot...

Word. Two sexy black chicks right thur

[Lathum]

I thought the plus size model is hot.




















just kidding.

[MJ4H]

All I know is daddy likes Kristy Lee Cook

hells yeah

[cartman]

Kristy Lee Cook looks really... smart.

:D

[korme]

I thought the plus size model is hot.




















just kidding.



Dude she does have a hot face

I could make a sacrifice

[Ksyrup]

I officially hate this fucking show. They set up these storylines to generate this temporary interest to drive ratings in the short term of their stupid auditions. Fuck them. It's a fucking joke.

Eat me Idol.

*no this isn't a complete surprise but fuck them anyway.

See, this is one of the reasons I like knowing the spoilers. They had them nailed, 100%, a few weeks ago (right after they filmed tonight's show).

A few comments:

What's with Leif Garrett Haley?

Do you realize we have a Castro and a Noriega? And a Chikezie Eze Amin?

Thank the Lord that Josiah dude didn't make it. I kinda knew he wasn't going to make it, but I wasn't 100% sure. I already had him lined up as my Chicken Little/Mikalah Gordon annual pick to receive buckets full of hate. Dude was nothing more than a Coldplay wannabe rip-off singer, and as if theaffected singing voice wasn't enough, he'd alread gone Madonna on us and incorporated the accent into his speaking voice. Go back to sleeping in your car, dude, and come back when you can be a bit more original.

You know a chick is hot when my wife mentions how pretty she is 3 times. Kristy Lee Cook better be around for awhile, or I'm going to be disappointed.

I think Danny Noreiga is pretty interesting. Obviously he's gay, so there's that wrinkle to see how that plays out in the competition, but he seems fairly talented.

David Archuleta won Star Search a few years back. Very good singer for 16, but what's bizarre is I can't stand his speaking voice. It's like he's got the Dick Vitale starter kit. It makes me cringe to listen to him speak. His singing, though, I can handle.

Will be interesting to see if there's any anti-foreigner sentiment in the voting. Carly Hennessy-Smithson and Michael Lee Johns are not only both industry vets, but they've been imported from Ireland and Australia. They are't the only vets (Kristy Cook, Jason Yeager, Brooke White, Syesha, Robbie Carrico (one of Britney's exes)), but this is about discovering America's talent, right?

Once again, there are several people who made it that we have seen maybe 1 fleeting shot of the entire season so far. Amy Davis and Jason Castro I'd never have remembered had I not seen them on the spoiler lists.

Seems like a decent, talented bunch, but I guess that's no surprise given the "experience" of many of them. Good news is that Jim shouuld be back with his rankings next week!

[JeeberD]

Archuleta has annoyed the hell out of me with his, "Golly, gee, they really like me!" after every audition so far. I can see that getting REALLY old REALLY fast...just like with Melinda last year.

Last year I had a couple of guy favorites at the 24 stage (Chris Sligh, Blake, Sundance) but this year the only one who really stands out for me is the Aussie...

[Ksyrup]

And unfortunately, that Aussie guy is rumored to be kind of a jackass. His real name is Michael Lee, he was the lead singer of a band called The Film, and he is alleged to have stolen a bunch of songs he didn't write, formed his own band, and released an album with those songs on it. There's a website out there called therisingsucks.com about it (his band is/was The Rising). I guess in an attempt to distance himself from all of that, he changed his name to Michael Johns.

Feel good story of the year, right?

[korme]

Ksyrup, it's funny you call him unoriginal when his first two auditions were with songs he wrote.

[korme]

Archuleta's speaking voice just doesn't seem like it's fully matured yet, it's very gravely

[korme]

And FTR, I like Johns on the male side and a ton of the women, notably the chick that's never seen an R-rated movie, and the black chick who lost her voice and the black chick who lost her father

[cmp]

I'm voting for Kady Malloy. I don't even care if she can sing or not.

[saldana]

i think archuletta is gonna win (please note i have never actually watched the show for the entire season before).

i think it is gonna come down to him versus syesha or asia (sp)

i was really, but very pleasantly (you know...in my pants pleasantly) suprised that kristy lee cook made it, considering she had to sing the same song she used in her first audition in order to make it through (can she sing anything but amazing grace)

and i am sure i am going to be in the minority on this, but i cant freaking stand the "rock and roll nurse" girl. her singing is possible the most annoying thing i have ever heard, and if she makes that index/pinky sign with her hand one more time i am putting out a hit on her.

[Ksyrup]

Ksyrup, it's funny you call him unoriginal when his first two auditions were with songs he wrote.

I'm not sure I understand what one has to do with the other. Many people can write "original" music that's nothing but a pale copy of other artists. It's pretty clear that he has only one style, and he's copied it rioght down to the bloody accent. Listen to the way he phrases every line he sings - it's the same thing every time. Apparently all he's got to listen to in his car are Snow Patrol CDs.

I just didn't buy a single thing about him. Part of me thinks he did the whole "living in his car" thing as an attempt to gin up a story line to make it easier to get on this show. Maybe if he goes home and concentrates on developing his talent into something a bit more original - and stops crying for the camera every chance he gets - he'll get somewhere. But I was wholly unimpressed with his talent and the way he carried himself. Something about him just struck a nerve with me. Thankfully he compeltely blew Stand By Me and gave them no choice but to let him go.

[Ksyrup]

Syesha was on NBC's attempt at an AI-type show called The One. I saw bits and pieces of it and remember her. As in her auditions, she has an issue with oversinging. I guess that's the best way to put it. Her final audition was excellent, I thought she kept control of her voice really well. But on The One and especially in that first audition, she did the same thing - over-sang it and really lost the tune. If she gets the chance, I think she'll come up with a couple of wow performances, but I also think she's capable of a couple of trainwrecks as well.

[Ksyrup]

Saldana, as much as I hate to agree with you about the RnR Nurse (I guess that's her nickname), I do. And I really wanted the rock element in this show, but I think she's way too one-dimensional to be a good fit for AI. The only time she sounds good is when she's belting it out, and after awhile, it gets grating. But it seems like she only stands out when she's on 10. But we'll see.

[Alan T]

I'm the type of American Idol viewer that you all probably hate. I enjoy usually all of the shows up until now.. Now its the final 24, I usually get bored as I just don't really like the type of music they generally sing and they are all decent singers at the least.

My wife is the opposite of me, she usually gets bored with the starter episodes, but this is the point she really likes AI... I guess I just like the freak shows :)

[Ksyrup]

My interest starts before the show even airs, when the actual auditions and Hollywood Week takes place, and is greatest when the final cuts are made (which occurred, in real time, 2-3 weeks ago). As far as the competition, I agree that I can't stand most of the music, and for me, it's really only interesting until they cut down to about 7 or 8 people. At that point, my interest begins to wane and I'd be just as happy if they cut 6 people at once and got right to the finals. I usually don't even watch the finale, and I certainly don't care who wins. The process is the biggest reason I watch.

[Draft Dodger]

and i am sure i am going to be in the minority on this, but i cant freaking stand the "rock and roll nurse" girl. her singing is possible the most annoying thing i have ever heard, and if she makes that index/pinky sign with her hand one more time i am putting out a hit on her.

I could see her act getting old really fast, but I still dig her. Except that she looks and sounds like Jodie Foster and that distracts the hell out of me.

[rkmsuf]

What the hell are you doing here at night???

It's a sad state of affairs my friend.

[Draft Dodger]

I'm the type of American Idol viewer that you all probably hate. I enjoy usually all of the shows up until now.. Now its the final 24, I usually get bored as I just don't really like the type of music they generally sing and they are all decent singers at the least.

My wife is the opposite of me, she usually gets bored with the starter episodes, but this is the point she really likes AI... I guess I just like the freak shows :)

I'm with your wife (not literally, of course). The early stuff is just a big long attention whore parade to me. I don't enjoy it at all. Now that they have it whittled down to people with actual talent, I'm more interested and I'll remain so until the last few episodes when they stretch stuff out way too much.

[MJ4H]

I enjoy it from here out. The auditions are very very annoying to watch anymore. I find myself getting ticked off at the nonsensically bad performers they don't immediately cut repeatedly.

From here out I get a kick out of hearing what the judges say about a performance. Randy and Simon are actually pretty good judges. Paula is ok sometimes, but most often not. Randy is the best musician of the three, clearly, but Simon seems to be fairly in-tune with what will work with audiences and what will not with a lower level of just plain old music knowledge than Randy has. I think that is why he always makes comparisons to other events, like "that was like a bad wedding singer" and stuff like that. He isn't really sure what exactly was wrong, he just knows it didn't work and is usually right.

[Eaglesfan27]

All I know is daddy likes Kristy Lee Cook

Dola-

I also think the laryngitis chick and the chick whose dad died just before her first audition are hot...

I'm voting for Kady Malloy. I don't even care if she can sing or not.

From what I've seen so far, my 4 favorite contestants as far as looks go.

[rkmsuf]

this show better give me tits

[cuervo72]

I could see her act getting old really fast, but I still dig her. Except that she looks and sounds like Jodie Foster and that distracts the hell out of me.

You know what I think she needs to sing, rather than Joplin/Morrison? Some Tina Turner. I think the raspiness might work a bit better there. She has the attitude for it too.

[rkmsuf]

You know what I think she needs to sing, rather than Joplin/Morrison? Some Tina Turner. I think the raspiness might work a bit better there. She has the attitude for it too.

oh please no

and if they have that fucking bryan adams on during the live shows I'm cracking skulls.

enough with the brian adams songs on the list

[cuervo72]

oh please no

and if they have that fucking bryan adams on during the live shows I'm cracking skulls.

enough with the brian adams songs on the list

Do I have the video for you!

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[rkmsuf]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[MJ4H]

Bryan Adams is awesome*






*i will fill his vagina with poison cement

[cuervo72]

You guys are SO going to have Simms, Maple Leafs, and bbor on your asses!

[kurtism]

You guys are SO going to have Simms, Maple Leafs, and bbor on your asses!

Just so long as no one pisses off Buddy G.

[cuervo72]

I figured Buddy hated Bryan Adams anyway.

[Draft Dodger]

I thought Buddy was Bryan Adams

[cuervo72]

nonono, Buddy is the guy from that HGTV wacky home show.

http://img.hgtv.com/HGTV/2006/04/12/HWTHhostGeorgeGray2_e.jpg

[rowech]

My choice to win it:

http://www.americanidol.com/contestants/season7/alexandrea_lushington/

She got no screen time really at all during the last episode.

For those who like American Idol and haven't seen/heard of Paul Potts, there's also this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya1xLdnrI0c&feature=related

Simon's face is just priceless.

[Ksyrup]

There's a direct correlation between pre-top 24 face time and success in the competition. There are 4-5 people who have pretty much no shot at winning, or even doing well. Perhaps one or two of them will distinguish themselves early and hang on for a bit, but several people have done an "analysis" (for lack of a better term) of face time and finish, and the correlation is pretty much dead-on. Of course, there are several guys who got pretty much no face time, so I guess a couple of them will have to stick around for a few weeks just by the nature of the competition. Given the clear advantage it brings, they should really make an attempt to do a small feature on all of the eventual top 24 at some point before they are actually selected.

[INDalltheway]

There's a direct correlation between pre-top 24 face time and success in the competition. There are 4-5 people who have pretty much no shot at winning, or even doing well. Perhaps one or two of them will distinguish themselves early and hang on for a bit, but several people have done an "analysis" (for lack of a better term) of face time and finish, and the correlation is pretty much dead-on. Of course, there are several guys who got pretty much no face time, so I guess a couple of them will have to stick around for a few weeks just by the nature of the competition. Given the clear advantage it brings, they should really make an attempt to do a small feature on all of the eventual top 24 at some point before they are actually selected.
Exactly. The guy I am rooting for, Luke Menard, got absolutely zero face time. The only thing I heard they said about him was that he was "too good for the competition."

[Schmidty]

What's with all of them there for'ners? I think American Idol should require American citizenship.

Am I allowed to go compete on Canadian Idol?

Hahahahahahah!!! Sorry, I tried to say that with a straight face, but failed. I do think I'd do well on CI, since I do a really, really good moose call.

[Raiders Army]

It's a sad state of affairs my friend.

Just weird to see you on FOFC at night. ;)

[rkmsuf]

Just weird to see you on FOFC at night. ;)

I was distraught at the time. Momentarily lost my faculties.

[wade moore]

There's a direct correlation between pre-top 24 face time and success in the competition. There are 4-5 people who have pretty much no shot at winning, or even doing well. Perhaps one or two of them will distinguish themselves early and hang on for a bit, but several people have done an "analysis" (for lack of a better term) of face time and finish, and the correlation is pretty much dead-on. Of course, there are several guys who got pretty much no face time, so I guess a couple of them will have to stick around for a few weeks just by the nature of the competition. Given the clear advantage it brings, they should really make an attempt to do a small feature on all of the eventual top 24 at some point before they are actually selected.This is something that kind of irritates me about this show, although funny enough that Kristy Lee girl didn't really get much face time but I imagine has a good position at this point.

My early favorites (for who I like, not who I think will win) in no particular order:

Irish chick
Long Haired Rocker
Asya (or however she spells it)
Kristy Lee Cook
Nurse Rocker

And if they never do an interview with him and I close my eyes I think I could really like Noriega.


From my experience at least a couple of my early favorites get quickly exposed in the first few weeks and I lose faith in them and a couple of others surprise me and make their way on the list. I think the two rocker's have the biggest risk of falling off of my list.

[Ksyrup]

Kristy Lee Cook got a bunch of face time. In fact, it seems like they manufactured a backstory for her about having to sell a horse to pay for her trip to the audition. They went back to her farm and did a whole segment on her. Granted, that was for her first audition and they didn't focus on her as much in Hollywood, but still. She was the clear star from the first couple of audition shows.

[Ksyrup]

The long haired rocker? Are you talking about the former boy bander Robbie Carrico? Marketing aside, I still don't see what he has to do with being a rocker - now he wears a knit cap and has a scruffy beard. Oh, and Ryan continually calls him a rocker. Woopee! Just a guess, but I think he'll turn out to be as much of a rocker as Constantine was.

[Alan T]

Kristy Lee Cook got a bunch of face time. In fact, it seems like they manufactured a backstory for her about having to sell a horse to pay for her trip to the audition. They went back to her farm and did a whole segment on her. Granted, that was for her first audition and they didn't focus on her as much in Hollywood, but still. She was the clear star from the first couple of audition shows.

Didn't she go audition in Phily? If she had to sell a horse to go audition, why didn't she just go to a closer audition instead? Then she would only have to have sold off a pony or something... I dunno..

[rkmsuf]

Didn't she go audition in Phily? If she had to sell a horse to go audition, why didn't she just go to a closer audition instead? Then she would only have to have sold off a pony or something... I dunno..

THAT WAS ALL MADE UP. THIS SHOW IS FUCKING SHIT.

[Ksyrup]

There are always several people in every audition city who geographically don't make sense where they auditioned. I guess maybe schedule matters, but otherwise...? And yeah, her story about the horse came off as forced when we learned about her background. They basically played her up like that Poppelreiter dude, fresh off the farm. She actually lived in Nashville for quite some time pursuing her career. You'd think if money meant that much, she'd have tried out in LA or something.

[wade moore]

Kristy Lee Cook got a bunch of face time. In fact, it seems like they manufactured a backstory for her about having to sell a horse to pay for her trip to the audition. They went back to her farm and did a whole segment on her. Granted, that was for her first audition and they didn't focus on her as much in Hollywood, but still. She was the clear star from the first couple of audition shows.I was definitely referring to Hollywood. She was in the 1st or 2nd audition show, in the minds of america that was a loooong time ago. So to me she's at a bit of a disadvantage because of the low coverage in Hollywood. I was actually wondering if she would get cut because of that.

The long haired rocker? Are you talking about the former boy bander Robbie Carrico? Marketing aside, I still don't see what he has to do with being a rocker - now he wears a knit cap and has a scruffy beard. Oh, and Ryan continually calls him a rocker. Woopee! Just a guess, but I think he'll turn out to be as much of a rocker as Constantine was.

And thus the reason I think he's at risk for sliding off. They keep calling him a "rocker" and I think there's a decent sound to his voice, but I think wants I see him more I won't like him.

[Ksyrup]

I was definitely referring to Hollywood. She was in the 1st or 2nd audition show, in the minds of america that was a loooong time ago. So to me she's at a bit of a disadvantage because of the low coverage in Hollywood. I was actually wondering if she would get cut because of that.

Teh hawtness was never far from my mind... :D

[Ksyrup]

I won't post the entire article text here, but this is on the front page of Yahoo.com about Carly Smithson. I suspect this chick is going to get cut very quickly as part of an anti-vet backlash. And it doesn't help she's not from America, either. AI has really shot itself in the foot by not presenting these people in their true light. Maybe people won't care, but I suspect the cover-up is going to fuel an outrage if a lot of people (voters) find out about this. Michael Johns is in the same boat, except Carly's the poster child.

hxxp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/13980/irish-idol-smithsons-secret-past

"American Idol is supposed to be all about giving undiscovered talent a chance. Please note I used the word "undiscovered." As in, artists who have not had record deals yet. Artists who need a show like this to GET a record deal in the first place. Artists who have not already had major labels waste millions of dollars unsuccessfully trying to mold them into next big things.

What's my point? Well, last night the visa-challenged Irish artist formerly known as Carly Hennessy--but now conveniently going under her new married name, Carly Smithson--made it into American Idol's top 24 (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AiZCtDO8q02w.NkjHSj0nHLNwSUv/SIG=11sdgcbrc/**http%3A//tv.yahoo.com/american-idol/show/34934/photos/all), despite having had a flop album out on MCA Records nearly seven years ago. An album that sold only hundreds of copies, despite the fact that MCA spent millions of dollars trying to promote it."

[saldana]

Kristy Lee Cook got a bunch of face time. In fact, it seems like they manufactured a backstory for her about having to sell a horse to pay for her trip to the audition. They went back to her farm and did a whole segment on her. Granted, that was for her first audition and they didn't focus on her as much in Hollywood, but still. She was the clear star from the first couple of audition shows.

i think that was more because she is freaking gorgeous than anything....they did the backstories during the audition shows (especially when they were in one city for 2 days) on alot of people, some of whom didnt even make it to hollywood (the air force girl comes to mind)

[wade moore]

I won't post the entire article text here, but this is on the front page of Yahoo.com about Carly Smithson. I suspect this chick is going to get cut very quickly as part of an anti-vet backlash. And it doesn't help she's not from America, either. AI has really shot itself in the foot by not presenting these people in their true light. Maybe people won't care, but I suspect the cover-up is going to fuel an outrage if a lot of people (voters) find out about this. Michael Johns is in the same boat, except Carly's the poster child.

hxxp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/13980/irish-idol-smithsons-secret-past

"American Idol is supposed to be all about giving undiscovered talent a chance. Please note I used the word "undiscovered." As in, artists who have not had record deals yet. Artists who need a show like this to GET a record deal in the first place. Artists who have not already had major labels waste millions of dollars unsuccessfully trying to mold them into next big things.

What's my point? Well, last night the visa-challenged Irish artist formerly known as Carly Hennessy--but now conveniently going under her new married name, Carly Smithson--made it into American Idol's top 24 (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AiZCtDO8q02w.NkjHSj0nHLNwSUv/SIG=11sdgcbrc/**http%3A//tv.yahoo.com/american-idol/show/34934/photos/all), despite having had a flop album out on MCA Records nearly seven years ago. An album that sold only hundreds of copies, despite the fact that MCA spent millions of dollars trying to promote it."

Ugh. Yeah, not a fan of this. Meh - and I liked her.

[Mustang]

Ugh. Yeah, not a fan of this. Meh - and I liked her.

Agree.

I think it is really really rare to have someone that can sing, hasn't done anything and walks into AI to audition so, I'd expect most people that can sing have done some level of singing be it at a county fair or singing a National Anthem at some sporting event.

Plus, one thing to have an album cut with a low print # that you were pimping on your own website (see Daughtry, Bo Bice and probably a bunch of others) But, completely different to already have someone throw millions at promoting you and you failed. Sounds like they are trying to recoup their investment now. I'd rather throw money at Josiah and buy his songs off myspace then buy some previously failed artist.

[rkmsuf]

We need a Congressperson to investigate this process and the voting.

[rkmsuf]

We have a right to an honest American Idol!

[Alan T]

We need a Congressperson to investigate this process and the voting.

After looking into the matter, Commissioner Goodell and Simon Cowell have decided to destroy Ireland and remove any evidence of any prior wrongdoing.

[Bisbo]

I have evidence that I gave her a shot in the ass. I saved it.

[finketr]

There's a direct correlation between pre-top 24 face time and success in the competition. There are 4-5 people who have pretty much no shot at winning, or even doing well. Perhaps one or two of them will distinguish themselves early and hang on for a bit, but several people have done an "analysis" (for lack of a better term) of face time and finish, and the correlation is pretty much dead-on. Of course, there are several guys who got pretty much no face time, so I guess a couple of them will have to stick around for a few weeks just by the nature of the competition. Given the clear advantage it brings, they should really make an attempt to do a small feature on all of the eventual top 24 at some point before they are actually selected.

I agree with this. I watched the top24 show and said to myself: Who the hell is that? Who's that? What?

Why did some of them get lead on on camera and some didn't? All i could think was wouldn't an equal exposure be nice? Good thing this isn't political.

[rkmsuf]

I agree with this. I watched the top24 show and said to myself: Who the hell is that? Who's that? What?

Why did some of them get lead on on camera and some didn't? All i could think was wouldn't an equal exposure be nice? Good thing this isn't political.

Because it's fixed, goof.

[Scoobz0202]

Speaking of not being an true amateur.

Check out Kristy Lee Cook's myspace.


hxxp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=305762194

[Ksyrup]

Speaking of not being an true amateur.

Check out Kristy Lee Cook's myspace.


hxxp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=305762194

There was actually an original AI thread that we were all posting in before rumsfeld smurf started this one. I detailed a bunch of info about the other plants. Here's a brief synopsis:

Carly Smithson - In addition to what's in this thread is this nugget:
Carly was signed to MCA records during the same time period that Randy Jackson was the senior vice president of A&R. Carly was at MCA in1999 (http://blog.mattgoyer.com/stories/2002/02/21/popSingerFailsToStrikeAChordDespiteTheMillionsSpentByMCA.html). Randy started at MCA in 1998 (http://www.allbusiness.com/services/motion-pictures/4801703-1.html) and was there for 4 years (http://www.dailyvidette.com/media/paper420/news/2005/02/03/EZone/american.Idol.Judge.Randy.Jackson.Strives.For.Stardom-851165.shtml).

Michael Johns used to be Michael Lee and was in a signed band who alleges that he stole a bunch of their songs, changed his name, and went off to do a solo album. And he's Australian.

Kady Malloy released an album produced by Nick Trevisick.

Brooke White had an opening slot on a Phil Vassar tour.

Amy Davis was on Nashville Star and was in a band with members of Survivor.

Robbie Carrico was in the boy band Boyz and Girlz United (ha!) and is a former boyfriend of Britney Spears.

Kristy Lee Cook was signed to Arista Nashville.

Syesha Mercado was on the failed NBC AI rip-off The One.

Joanne Borgella is this year's Melinda Doolittle. She was a backup singer for Patty LaBelle and Bo Bice.

Jason Yeager was on Making the Band.

Jason Castro was on the MTV show Cheyenne.

David Archuleta won Star Search, and I believe his story is the only one they've told on AI so far.

Several others who didn't make it have experience as well, the worst case being Jermaine Paul who made the top 50 and quit to sign a record deal so they cut him out of the show completely. Paul was up for a Grammy for a duet with Alicia Keys and is on a Kanye West album.

I don't necessarily have a problem with them all being in the competition, but they are hardly worthy of being contestants on a show billed as finding "America's undiscovered talent." Truth in advertising, guys!

[Ksyrup]

A friend of mine from another board who was a long-time DJ in Tennessee ran into your favorite almost-Idol contestant over the weekend:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e168/voiceguy/Funhouse/JohnDavis015.jpg


He said the kid is unbelievably naive and starting to get some offers. Sounds like another sob story in the making, to be told 2-3 years sfrom now when the kid is still living in his car but made someone else some money.

[Drake]

Michael Johns used to be Michael Lee and was in a signed band who alleges that he stole a bunch of their songs, changed his name, and went off to do a solo album. And he's Australian.

The oddly sad part is that one of John's/Michael Lee's band connections, The Rising, really sounds pretty good.

Their MySpace is here: http://www.myspace.com/therisingband

Nothing groundbreaking, but decent enough for today's musical landscape.

(Heh. Talk about damning with faint praise.)

[Ksyrup]

That's the band he started after he left The Film. Supposedly, he stole several songs and used them as his own with The Rising. Therisingsucks.com has the story (alleged story, I guess).

EDIT: Oh wow, that site worked as of last week. AI censors strike again. A day or two after Kady Malloy was outed, her album disappeared off a site you could buy it. Now this.

[Flasch186]

I will not be watching AI anymore this season however no one come over on Tuesday or Wednesday night's between 8 and 10pm....I have to fold some clot, er, wash my h, er, mow my la......sleep. Ill be sleeping, til 10.

[Ksyrup]

This week is brutal - 5 hours of AI. Tuesday is impossible - AI, Biggest Loser, and Big Brother all on at the same time.

[Ksyrup]

Syesha Mercado was not only on The One, NBC's attempt at an AI-type show, but she recently did a commercial for AI sponsor Ford. I'm surprised they didn't find a way to get her into the Knight Rider movie.


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[zums]

The oddly sad part is that one of John's/Michael Lee's band connections, The Rising, really sounds pretty good.

Their MySpace is here: http://www.myspace.com/therisingband

Nothing groundbreaking, but decent enough for today's musical landscape.

(Heh. Talk about damning with faint praise.)


Yeah I was really surprised when I read that here that he used to be the singer for them. I was all about one of their songs, "Cradle" back in I think 2003 or 2004 when I was still in college.

Ksyrup - Immediately after you posted about therisingsucks.com I went there and it was down. However, in Google if you click on cached pages or whatever you can still get in and see the story (for whoever is interested).

Also, there was another girl who's name I recognized during Hollywood week... Nina Shaw. I knew the name sounded familiar every time I heard it so I fired up Itunes and searched and I definitly have a few songs from her as well. R&B artist but on some songs with some pretty well-known rappers but nothing that was probably ever "officially" released. Surprising though that she didnt make the final 24.

Anyway, very interesting some of the backstorys on these people as the actual undiscovered talent gets thinner by the year. Ksyrup, what sites do you use for your info?

[Pumpy Tudors]

I wonder what William Hung is doing these days.

[Ksyrup]

Anyway, very interesting some of the backstorys on these people as the actual undiscovered talent gets thinner by the year. Ksyrup, what sites do you use for your info?

The main site I check out often is mjsbigblog.com, since he/she links to EVERYTHING - major newspaper articles, local news items, other blogs, etc. I also read votefortheworst.com every couple of weeks, as they are really good at compiling all of the backstory info. There are some other really good sites, but MJ links to them and I just go to them to read specific articles/threads.

[path12]

I wonder what William Hung is doing these days.

Your cousin Tanya? Oh, sorry, you said what. ;)

[Ksyrup]

If you're looking for a run-down on the male contestants performing tonight, check this out:

hxxp://mjsbigblog.com/season-7-top-12-guys.htm

[Pumpy Tudors]

Your cousin Tanya? Oh, sorry, you said what. ;)
DAAAAAAAAMN

[Scoobz0202]

Holy shit. That long haired, hippy kinda, looking 17 year old is from Elida, Ohio. The Elida Bulldogs play us, the Celina Bulldogs in high school sports. Same division and league. Crazy.

[Mustang]

Holy shit. That Leif Garrett wannabee looking 17 year old is from Elida, Ohio.

Any Scott Baio lookalikes walking about that town too?

[korme]

Jason Castro (dreads) is my new favorite I think - he turned that song into something where I could imagine a pop-rock band using it

[adubroff]

My ranking:

1) David A. - the best....pretty goofy but will play well with teenybopper girls. Expect to see him for a long time.
2) Jason C - The better Jason. Took an old song and put a stamp on it.
3) Mike Johns - Light my fire is such a Jim Morrison classic, I was worried when he tried it but he did a solid job.
4) Luke - Liked him much better than the judges. Suprised they were so harsh.
5) Colton - this is where the performances stop standing out.
6) David C - 2nd among Davids
7) Robbie - getting the rocker label now buys you Daughtry comparisons, which is going to be steep for anybody.
8) Jason Y- The lesser Jason
9) Daniel Noriega - creepy.
10) David H - he kicked it off, and the kickoff went outta bounds.
11) Garrett - bad song, didn't show off his voice which had been strong in earlier performances
12) Chickeze - a poor man's Ruben. Actually compared to where Ruben was at this point in the competition, he's a broke man's Ruben.

Usually there's a performer or two hanging in the mid pack who's running a stalking race and breaks out. I didn't see much from 4-12 to show that they had the ability to do that.

[cuervo72]

I thought Chikeze was going to go into the Love Boat theme.

These guys...some of these guys are not too good.

[NoSkillz]

Maybe it's just me but I thought some of the guys were just awful tonight.

Garrett, Jason Yeager and Luke made me cringe.

David Archuleta was the best of the bunch and I liked Michael John and Jason Castro too.

[JeeberD]

Menard, IMO, was BAD. Even the clips of his auditions they showed he sounded bad. I don't get how he made the top 24....

[Jim G.]

This season, I'm putting the rankings on the Frontier, just because the editing interface is a lot easier.

An introduction:

http://www.solecismic.com/frontierblog/?p=231

February 19, Boys, Round of 24:

http://www.solecismic.com/frontierblog/?p=232

[korme]

David Archuleta has a terrible voice, what is the love for this kid about?

[Rizon]

These guys...some of these guys are not too good.

Pretty terrible tonight. I'm hoping it's because it was bile/60s week, or else this is going to be a really long snoozefest.

[rowech]

David Archuleta has a terrible voice, what is the love for this kid about?

He's 16 and his voice will be gold for himself and somebody. If he doesn't get dumped early, he's only going to build more confidence. He's the one to beat.

[Vince]

David Archuleta has a terrible voice, what is the love for this kid about?

Are you kidding? Maybe he's got the love-fest going on a bit, but to say he has a terrible voice is going a bit far.

[Vince]

Dola -- I also happen to think that David Cook's performance was so amazing that I almost forgot that he pinned a small woodland creature to his head and smeared it with Crisco.

[korme]

Are you kidding? Maybe he's got the love-fest going on a bit, but to say he has a terrible voice is going a bit far.

It's not pure, it's raspy and too deep. It's garbage.

[Ksyrup]

I had the exact same bottom three as Jim - Haley, Menard and Yeager. We're now in season 7, and I can't believe people still have issues picking songs. I'd like to know how they choose them, actually - what "help" they get, if it's more like prodding/forcing them to take certain songs - because I can't for the life of me believe people are willingly picking songs this horrible.

The 60s was a great decade of music, and Yeager picks Moon River? And worst yet, instead of at least attempting to update the song (which would probably have been hopeless anyway), he goes out of his way to get into character, changing his hair style to resemble Rob Lowe playing a snooty frat boy in an 80s movie. I hope Granny enjoyed that performance, because it should be your last. And Danny...I love the attitude, watching this show for 5 months I need comic relief, but...have you learned NOTHING about how well those types of songs fair on AI? When I heard the choice, I knew he was going to get destroyed.

I can't believe Chikezie Un-Eze had the nerve to talk back to Simon. The only thing that will save him this week is the fact that 3 people we hardly saw - Menard, Yeager and Haley - were terrible, meaning there's about a 99.998% chance that the 2 guys cut will come from that group of 3. Deadly combination.

I was really hoping that Haley guy would be good, because he looks so much like a 70s pop star it's not funny - the Robert Plant hair, the androgynous look highlighted by his cheekbones, the Karen Carpenter voice. Dude should have a serious retro thing going on. In fact, he reminds me a little bit of Roger Manning from Jellyfish - frail body, high pitched, feminine-sounding voice, 70s looks...but missing the talent. Oh well.

[Thomkal]

David Archuleta was the tops for me last night-I can't help but smile at his reactions to the judges and Ryan playing with him after the judges comments. May get a bit old after a while, but for now I think he's the one in the driver's seat.

I would put Michael Long, Robbie Carrico, and David Hernandez a step below right now. I do not understand the love for Jason Castro-I hate the hair and I don't think he has a particularly good voice.

I like the sound of Luke Menard's and Jason Yeager's voice, but sadly both looked out of their element last night especially Yeager who seemed to look amazed to be on the stage during his performance. Sadly one or both could be gone which is a shame, especially with Menard who I think could be a darkhorse to watch.

I wouldn't be particularly sad to see any of the others I didn't mention go home this week, but I'm rooting for Chikeize, who probably doomed his chances by arguing with Simon, and Garrett Haley who showed absolutely no personality and very little originality in his performance. Surprisingly his voice did sound a lot like Neal Sedaka, so there may be some potential in there, but it's buried deep.

Overall not a very good first night for the boys, but week one seldom goes well due to nerves and performing in front of a large crowd for the first time for some of them.

[Eaglesfan27]

Maybe it's just me but I thought some of the guys were just awful tonight.

Garrett, Jason Yeager and Luke made me cringe.

David Archuleta was the best of the bunch and I liked Michael John and Jason Castro too.

Those 3 were my bottom 3 and top 3 respectively as well with the other 6 sort of blending in the middle (although Chikeze was very close to my bottom 3.) I think nerves are making Garrett sound worse than he is, but he sounded the worst by a wide margin last night and is my only sure bet to go home unless voteforthewost saves him.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

I'm not a huge Elvis buff, but didn't Suspicious Minds come out in 1974. How did that qualify for 60's night?

[Ksyrup]

I think this fairly sums up Jason Yeager's performance last night:

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/25/images/fletch.jpg

I give him a 15% chance of sticking around for at least another week because of his kid, and because there are several other deserving candidates to be sent home this week.

[Ksyrup]

Dola -

I'm not a huge Elvis buff, but didn't Suspicious Minds come out in 1974. How did that qualify for 60's night?

That one, and I thought Jailhouse Rock was from the 50s.

EDIT: According to Wiki, Suspicious Minds was released on August 26, 1969 as a single. And JHR was released on September 24, 1957. So not only was it a bad song choice, but it shouldn't have even been allowed. They could have saved Danny from himself!

[Ksyrup]

With JHR, my guess is it was re-recorded during the 60s by Elvis or someone else, meaning it qualified on a technicality. Didn't that happen the year before last? They had to do songs from the 2000s, and someone chose an old song that had recently been covered?

[rkmsuf]

what a fucking freak show. there is zero reason to watch the male portion of this competition unless you really dig that danny. not that there's anything wrong with that.

danny noriega for president

[Pumpy Tudors]

You know, while Chikezie's "lounge act" wasn't great last night, I actually kinda liked him as a singer. Then, he mouthed off to Simon and I was done with him. I mean, it's your first time out there for votes, and you immediately cut Simon off and argue with him? How does that help? Yeah, we know Simon's not tactful, but if you want to win the competition, you at least have to let him speak.

Maybe if Chikezie had built up some kind of personality over three or four weeks, he might come off like somebody who's just having a semi-friendly banter with Simon. Right out of the gate, though, it just makes him look like a jackass who can't take any type of criticism. I think everyone knows that Simon knows the right things to say to nudge a contestant out of the competition, and if Chikezie doesn't get real humble real fast, he'll be gone as soon as the truly terrible performers are out.

[Ksyrup]

Most interesting thing for me tonight/tomorrow will be how the Carly Smithson thing plays out. She has been at the head of all the "controversy" stories I've seen in the past week - and I'm not just talking about Idol-dedicated websites, I'm talking USA Today, Yahoo, AOL, CNN, MSNBC, etc. And then last night after Idol, I'm watching the local Fox news, and even THEY'VE got a story on the possible backlash regarding her past and the fact that she's recently from Ireland. I'm thinking she has to hit a HR tonight, or she could be gone quickly.

[Ksyrup]

If you're interested, here are the DialIdol results...



<TABLE id=table16 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#219e42" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>David Archuleta</TD><TD width=128>
12.55


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg height=48>1-5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#219e42" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Michael Johns</TD><TD width=128>
10.6


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg height=48>1-7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#219e42" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Jason Castro</TD><TD width=128>
8.22


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg height=48>1-9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Danny Noriega</TD><TD width=128>
7.69


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-11
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>David Hernandez</TD><TD width=128>
7.12


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Jason Yeager</TD><TD width=128>
6.15


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>2-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Robbie Carrico</TD><TD width=128>
5.3


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>2-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Luke Menard</TD><TD width=128>
4.84


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>3-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>David Cook</TD><TD width=128>
2.49


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>3-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Colton Berry</TD><TD width=128>
2.29


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>4-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Chikezie Eze</TD><TD width=128>
2.11


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>4-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Garrett Haley</TD><TD width=128>
1.69


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>5-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Ksyrup]

Interesting catch from last night's show - where's Carly?

http://idolator.com/assets/resources/2008/02/top11.jpg

[rkmsuf]

in the shitter

[Ksyrup]

in the shitter

I forgot to check the Stalls thread.

Besides, I don't even see a chair for her.

[lordscarlet]

With JHR, my guess is it was re-recorded during the 60s by Elvis or someone else, meaning it qualified on a technicality. Didn't that happen the year before last? They had to do songs from the 2000s, and someone chose an old song that had recently been covered?

That was last year. Melinda Doolittle did it the entire season.

[Ksyrup]

Guide to the top 12 girls:

hxxp://mjsbigblog.com/season-7-top-12-girls-the-guide.htm

In the Amy Davis paragraph is a link to her modeling portfolio. I'm not sure I find her all that attractive (exotic, definitely), but she's got a nice body.

[INDalltheway]

If you're interested, here are the DialIdol results...



<TABLE id=table16 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#219e42" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>David Archuleta</TD><TD width=128>
12.55


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg height=48>1-5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#219e42" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Michael Johns</TD><TD width=128>
10.6


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg height=48>1-7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#219e42" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Jason Castro</TD><TD width=128>
8.22


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg height=48>1-9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Danny Noriega</TD><TD width=128>
7.69


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-11
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>David Hernandez</TD><TD width=128>
7.12


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Jason Yeager</TD><TD width=128>
6.15


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>2-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Robbie Carrico</TD><TD width=128>
5.3


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>2-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Luke Menard</TD><TD width=128>
4.84


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>3-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>David Cook</TD><TD width=128>
2.49


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>3-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Colton Berry</TD><TD width=128>
2.29


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>4-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Chikezie Eze</TD><TD width=128>
2.11


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>4-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Garrett Haley</TD><TD width=128>
1.69


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>5-12
(B3)


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

So do you think this puts Luke Menard in decent shape to make it back for another week? I've never watched the show, but I know Luke. I didn't think he did very well, but you could hear how good of a voice he has. The music was almost too loud for his voice though.

[Ksyrup]

I'd say Luke's low enough that I wouldn't be shocked if he was voted out, since 2 of them are going home, but my bet is his looks will save him for at least another week.

Yeager clearly appears to have benefited from his son's appearance on the show. And Eze appears to be suffering from the "snipe back at the judges and you're gone" issue that has plagued others in the past. Danny gets a pass on this because he was hilarious doing it. Eze came off poorly because he started in on Simon before Simon could get a full sentence out, and he seemed angry and ready for a confrontation. Big mistake, especially combined with performing second and generally sucking.

[rkmsuf]

why did I create this thread?

serenity now

[Pumpy Tudors]

why did I create this thread?

serenity now
Don't you dare delete it, either. If you do, I'll be up your ass so far, I'll taste your dinner before you do.

[rkmsuf]

Don't you dare delete it, either. If you do, I'll be up your ass so far, I'll taste your dinner before you do.

Now, you are trying to STOP me from deleting it?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Now, you are trying to STOP me from deleting it?
I want this thread, and I want you.

[rkmsuf]

take me

[Ksyrup]

If you delete this thread, we'll just move to the other one that was started before this one. Plus, I still have mod powers, I think, so it's useless to delete this one.

Bwhahahahahahahaha!

[rkmsuf]

blimey

[cartman]

David Archuleta was the tops for me last night-I can't help but smile at his reactions to the judges and Ryan playing with him after the judges comments.

:eek:

Glad I missed it last night!

[MikeVic]

Get a room.

[rkmsuf]

Get a room.

Wait, other people could read that!?!?!?!?

[Pumpy Tudors]

ABORT
ABORT

[rkmsuf]

TIPPY TOE

[MikeVic]

I don't even watch American Idol. Why am I here.

[NoSkillz]

Interesting catch from last night's show - where's Carly?

http://idolator.com/assets/resources/2008/02/top11.jpg

Yeah, I noticed this last night and mentioned it to my wife. There were only 11 out there all night.

My guess is that Carly was sick.

[Arles]

Ugh, there's so much grizzle on this steak it's almost unbearable to digest. The boys were pretty bad and really only 2-3 should have a chance to win given their state last night. All that said, everyone gets "reprocessed" by the show and I'm sure a couple extras will find the one think they don't stink at and rinse/repeat each week.

Johns and Archuleta look like the best, with Castro and one of the faux rockers (Cook, Carrico) having an outside chance to stay around. The rest of varying degrees of boring - with one having the ability to rise to the top 4 each week based on the theme and/or an implosion by one of the above guys. I agree with Jim that Hernandez was the best of this sad crew last night, but that's the old "tallest guy at a midget conference" compliment. Menard and Haley were dreadful and should go - but Berry or Eze could get fewer votes. For some reason, I think Yeager has the John Stevens crowd and could stay around for a while. Menard may try his best Ace Young impersonation to stay if he somehow gets a week reprieve.

Either way, Tivo should link to the next 3-4 episodes (with this one highlighting) as a top marketing campaign. Between the commercials and somewhat unwatchable performances, I can't imagine watching these next few weeks without the assistance of DVR.

[cuervo72]

Ugh, there's so much grizzle on this steak it's almost unbearable to digest.

The steak is veteran?

[Eaglesfan27]

If you're interested, here are the DialIdol results...



<table id="table16" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td t_bgcolor="#219e42" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">David Archuleta</td><td width="128">
12.55


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">1-5</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#219e42" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Michael Johns</td><td width="128">
10.6


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">1-7</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#219e42" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Jason Castro</td><td width="128">
8.22


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_green_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">1-9</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Danny Noriega</td><td width="128">
7.69


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">1-11
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">David Hernandez</td><td width="128">
7.12


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">1-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Jason Yeager</td><td width="128">
6.15


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">2-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Robbie Carrico</td><td width="128">
5.3


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">2-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Luke Menard</td><td width="128">
4.84


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">3-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">David Cook</td><td width="128">
2.49


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">3-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Colton Berry</td><td width="128">
2.29


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">4-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Chikezie Eze</td><td width="128">
2.11


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">4-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td t_bgcolor="#ada610" t_borderwidth="0"><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="diPredictionsTableText"><td width="80">Garrett Haley</td><td width="128">
1.69


</td><td width="52"><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" background="../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg" height="48" width="46">5-12
(B3)


</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="36" width="37">-</td><td align="center" width="38">-</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

The 4th and 9th place people on that list are surprising. Otherwise, that is more or less in line with what I expected.

[Ksyrup]

I'm not all that surprised about #4, because the voters have tended to rally around contestants who get attacked by Simon, especially when Simon went out of his way to reference his performance several times through the rest of the night. Not to mention I think he got some votes because he was legitimately entertaining (however you choose to define that!).

#9 was a surprise, though.

[Ksyrup]

Definitely don't feel sorry for Josiah. The dude I know in Nashville says he recorded an EP last week, had a friend riding around with him a couple nights ago (in his "home" I guess) who says that during the ride he got calls from 2 labels, and that Josiah told the guy who recorded the EP that he made $35K in 2 weeks just in downloads from his website.

[korme]

David Archuleta was the tops for me last night-I can't help but smile at his reactions to the judges and Ryan playing with him after the judges comments. May get a bit old after a while, but for now I think he's the one in the driver's seat.

I would put Michael Long, Robbie Carrico, and David Hernandez a step below right now. I do not understand the love for Jason Castro-I hate the hair and I don't think he has a particularly good voice.

I like the sound of Luke Menard's and Jason Yeager's voice, but sadly both looked out of their element last night especially Yeager who seemed to look amazed to be on the stage during his performance. Sadly one or both could be gone which is a shame, especially with Menard who I think could be a darkhorse to watch.

I wouldn't be particularly sad to see any of the others I didn't mention go home this week, but I'm rooting for Chikeize, who probably doomed his chances by arguing with Simon, and Garrett Haley who showed absolutely no personality and very little originality in his performance. Surprisingly his voice did sound a lot like Neal Sedaka, so there may be some potential in there, but it's buried deep.

Overall not a very good first night for the boys, but week one seldom goes well due to nerves and performing in front of a large crowd for the first time for some of them.

Garrett - no personality? He's the only one that actually took what the judge's said and called it what it was - constructive criticism. You could tell he was actually listening instead of just the deer-in-headlights-in-one-ear-out-the-other look. He seemed to have more personality than a lot of those guys out there, and he's just 17.

[korme]

So do you think this puts Luke Menard in decent shape to make it back for another week? I've never watched the show, but I know Luke. I didn't think he did very well, but you could hear how good of a voice he has. The music was almost too loud for his voice though.

If you are going to quote a spoiler tag, please reply with a spoiler tag. Thanks.

[Thomkal]

:eek:

Glad I missed it last night!

I knew somebody would make a joke about that. :)

[Thomkal]

Garrett - no personality? He's the only one that actually took what the judge's said and called it what it was - constructive criticism. You could tell he was actually listening instead of just the deer-in-headlights-in-one-ear-out-the-other look. He seemed to have more personality than a lot of those guys out there, and he's just 17.

I agree he was very cool with dealing with the criticism. But in my opinion there wasn't much personality in the performance. He doesn't seem like a natural performer like some of the others. It may develop over time, if he stays past tonight.

[Vince]

The 4th and 9th place people on that list are surprising. Otherwise, that is more or less in line with what I expected.

My feelings exactly. If you flip-flop 4 and 9 on that list, it's very close to what I have.

I can't freaking believe that I'm into American Idol *shivers*

[GrantDawg]

Ugh, there's so much grizzle on this steak it's almost unbearable to digest. The boys were pretty bad and really only 2-3 should have a chance to win given their state last night. All that said, everyone gets "reprocessed" by the show and I'm sure a couple extras will find the one think they don't stink at and rinse/repeat each week.




I agree with your statement, except that 2 or 3 should have chance to win. If they don't get better (which I'm sure they will), I'd say none of them would have a shot at winning. There wasn't a stand-out in the bunch, really. Johns was decent only compared to how bad the rest of the performances were. As others have said, the first night is usually rough, but I'd have to say this was by far the worst first night of any season.

[Logan]

The first girl singing seems smart.

[adubroff]

Not too much to write home from with the girls either....probably a little more depth here...Carly/Alaina/Syesha were the standouts for me. I liked Katy a lot more than the panel. Amanda was the clear trailer for me but the second loser is very debateable in my mind.

My rankings:
1. Carly
2. Alaina
3. Syesha
4. Katy
5. Joanne
6. Asia
7. Alexandrea
8. KCook
9. Ramela
10. Brooke
11. AMyDavis
12. AmandaOvermeyer

[korme]

I thought Kady Malloy was excellent, really surprised about the reactions from the judges.

[Scoobz0202]

Is there anywhere I can watch tonights show online, or if I miss it am I shit out of luck?

[korme]

adubruff, interesting- think your doin a severe injustice to Ramiele


also- Alexandre wins the award for best turnaround in the looks department

[GrantDawg]

Not too much to write home from with the girls either....probably a little more depth here...Carly/Alaina/Syesha were the standouts for me. I liked Katy a lot more than the panel. Amanda was the clear trailer for me but the second loser is very debateable in my mind.

My rankings:
1. Carly
2. Alaina
3. Syesha
4. Katy
5. Joanne
6. Asia
7. Alexandrea
8. KCook
9. Ramela
10. Brooke
11. AMyDavis
12. AmandaOvermeyer

Don't quit your day job. Amanda? She was top 5 or 6, and one of the few distictive voices the show has ever had. If they lose her early it would be a major disappointment.

The girls were over-the-top better than the guys. I honestly wish they'd drop 4 guys instead of cutting any of the girls, because the bottom 2 girls are better than at least 6, maybe even 8, of the guys.

I just couldn't get over how the judges were killing some of the girls performances that were better than any of the guys performances. Kady would have won the night against the guys, yet they all panned her. Alexandrea showed a lot of personality, and yet Simon kills her. Don't get it.

Kristy was disappointing tonight, and so was Carly. They didn't shine like I hoped (for Kristy) or expected (for Carly). Amy Davis had the worse performance, followed by Joanne. Yet, I'd say both just had off nights, and both have potential to improve. I can't say that for 80% of the guys.

[Ksyrup]

Amanda was so bad tonight, I broke out the comparison to Sanjaya doing You Really Got Me. It was that bad. She doesn't have a distinctive voice - what she has is an annoying, affected attempt to sing like Janis Joplin and other bluesy, barroom-type singers. But she has no voice of her own...she's just singing like somebody else, and doing it poorly. That performance was an out of tune, horrible, screaming mess. I've heard death metal singers with a better sense of melody.

I desperately want a rocker to do well and continue on in this competition, but she is terrible.

She was so bad, I don't really have much to say about the others. A couple did well, most were blah. I disagreed with Simon on that Lushington chick, thought she was decent.

[Ksyrup]

Agree with GD on Amy Davis. I thought it was bad at first, but it got worse during the recap. And her recap seemed to go on for 10 seconds longer than everyone else's, too.

[Ksyrup]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410MPND38DL.jpg

This looks like a boy band put together from the cast of an after school special. And they all look like they're 5-10 years older than they should be.

[Arles]

Ramiela, Asia, Carly and Syesha were solid. The rest were either original and crappy (Amanda, Kady), confident and crappy (Alaina, Alexandrea, Amy) or timid and crappy (Joanne, Kristy, Brooke). Kristy was the most disappointing and I was literally afraid she would forget the next line during the entire song.

Was it better than the guys? yeah - mostly because of the last 3 performances. Up to that point, I was seriously thinking they might have even been worse. From a group that's been touted with all this experience, this top 24 looks like the greenest so far.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I think Tivo will be our best friend for the next 3 weeks. There are going to be some dreadful performances. Then again, maybe the 60s theme has an impact on this. My hope is they will be better with more shows and a more current theme.

[Vince]

Then again, maybe the 60s theme has an impact on this. My hope is they will be better with more shows and a more current theme.

I think this has a lot to do with it. I've been extra-interested in Idol the last two days, mostly because of the '60s theme. You see, I happen to be in a '60s Tribute Band (shameless plug: www.oldschoolrocknroll.com ), so watching these kids perform has been very interesting, to say the least. I can very much relate to younger people having to perform music that they don't know, and might not care for. I'm 26, and this band is playing music that I was at least familiar with, but in no means was I well-versed in before I started playing. I think this has a lot to do with why I think that the cover of Happy Together was phenomenal...that's a song that I lead sing :)

Having to tackle songs and styles from a completely different era is difficult enough when you have a template to do it (tribute style); to have to take someone else's music and make it your own and/or contemporize it is another step entirely. These are also kids who are largely new to the music scene (although everyone's touting this group as experienced because of past record deals and such, their performances to date have shown anything but experience).

I'd expect the performances to get better from here on out.

[Jim G.]

Tonight's roundup posted. Definitely a hard one to write.

http://www.solecismic.com/frontierblog/?p=234

[JeeberD]

As others have said, the first night is usually rough, but I'd have to say this was by far the worst first night of any season.

Do you remember last year's first guys night? Now THAT was a disaster...

[Ksyrup]

Two constants every year:

AI: This is the most talented group ever!

Fans: That was the worst set of performances ever!

[Ksyrup]

IHaving to tackle songs and styles from a completely different era is difficult enough when you have a template to do it (tribute style); to have to take someone else's music and make it your own and/or contemporize it is another step entirely. These are also kids who are largely new to the music scene (although everyone's touting this group as experienced because of past record deals and such, their performances to date have shown anything but experience).

I agree, and you know why I think this is? It's that most of these people are singers, not musicians. This is why I enjoyed Rock Star so much...most of those singers, while not great, were actively involved in arranging the songs they performed. Here, most of these contestants haven't done anything but sing songs they like, or sing songs they don't know at someone else's direction. Carly may have "experience," but her first attempt at an album in 2001 was so bad, they scrapped it and brought in 2 guys from The New Radicals to write another set of songs for her. The point is, she probably has barely more "experience" with arranging songs than Alaina Whitaker.

Jason Castro stood out not just because he performed with an instrument, but because it was clear that he had a vision for what his song choice should sound like for him, and not what his family/friends or Ricky Minor thought was best for him. Ricky Minor and whatever other vocal/song coaches they have for this show are probably more responsible for the crappy performances we see than the contestants are. And it's because only a few of these people know enough to be able to take control of their performance, instead of just doing what someone else suggests. That's why Brent or Bert or whatever his name was from last year stood out, because he knew what he wanted to do with the songs he chose, and he went entirely outside the box to do it. As a result, the fans responded. Daughtry was the same way, except he was smart to pick songs that had already been covered by rock groups and just copied their arrangements.

As much as I hate that Josiah kid's style, maybe he would have been good for this show, because he appears to have the talent/ability to arrange stuff. It's just that in his case, everything he'd arrange would sound like Snow Patrol. But you can bet he'd be telling Ricky Minor what he wants, not just sitting there being told what would be best for him.

[Eaglesfan27]

adubruff, interesting- think your doin a severe injustice to Ramiele


also- Alexandre wins the award for best turnaround in the looks department

Agreed. I'd have Ramiele in my top 3 vocal performances of last night which I thought were generally disappointing. The other 2 who I thought did well were Alexandrea and Carly. Alaina and Brook were ok and everyone else was forgettable or terrible. I was disappointed with Kristy's performance.

[Ksyrup]

I thought Kristy's look was as a disappointing as her performance. I think she should stick with the natural look, instead of all the makeup and styled hair. And for someone whose has sung in front of big crowds before, she seemed the most affected by nerves.

[MJ4H]

Carly and Alexandrea were my favorites tonight. It really wasn't very close, either. Oh, the one right before Carly, Syesha maybe? Lots of potential there. A couple of others have a shot at doing some good, maybe Brooke. Lots of disappointment, with the rest, though.

[rkmsuf]

Could there be a more boring show and group of people on television right now?


I may have to delete this mess and pass on Pumpy's bone. Tough call here.

[Ksyrup]

You started a thread about a show you don't want to watch, and when others are discussing it, you now want to delete it? LAME.

Anyway, on to the spoiler part of my post, the DialIdol results:


<TABLE id=table16 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Ramiele Malubay</TD><TD width=128>5.2

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Asia'h Epperson</TD><TD width=128>4.8

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Carly Smithson</TD><TD width=128>4.34

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Syesha Mercado</TD><TD width=128>3.8

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Alexandrea Lushington</TD><TD width=128>2.95

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Kristy Lee Cook</TD><TD width=128>2.64

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Amanda Overmyer</TD><TD width=128>2.45

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Brooke White</TD><TD width=128>2.16

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Kady Malloy</TD><TD width=128>1.89

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Alaina Whitaker</TD><TD width=128>1.87

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Amy Davis</TD><TD width=128>1.64

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BGCOLOR="#ada610" T_BORDERWIDTH="0"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Joanne Borgella</TD><TD width=128>1.31

</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Man, the DialIdol results reflect how uniformly poor the girls were. No one is categorized as safe, and the top score is 5.2. Contrast that with yesterday, when the top 7 guys had scores higher than that. I still think Amy Davis and Borgella are going home, but it's possible that someone undeserving (or I guess I should say less deserving) could be going home tonight. A few surprises/disappointments in here as well, but I'm hoping that's just because no one really separated themselves from the pack in week 1.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[rkmsuf]

OH, I WANT TO DELETE IT.

[Ksyrup]

OH, I WANT TO DELETE IT.

I know you do, El Lame-O.

[rkmsuf]

I know you do, El Lame-O.

Hey, I don't call you names for obsessing over this horrid show.

Don't make me come down there for you, sizzle chest.

[Ksyrup]

Just back away from the thread with your hands where I can see them. Now turn and slowly walk away, and don't ever look back.

[Eaglesfan27]

You started a thread about a show you don't want to watch, and when others are discussing it, you now want to delete it? LAME.

Anyway, on to the spoiler part of my post, the DialIdol results:


<TABLE id=table16 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Ramiele Malubay</TD><TD width=128>5.2


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Asia'h Epperson</TD><TD width=128>4.8


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Carly Smithson</TD><TD width=128>4.34


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Syesha Mercado</TD><TD width=128>3.8


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Alexandrea Lushington</TD><TD width=128>2.95


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Kristy Lee Cook</TD><TD width=128>2.64


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Amanda Overmyer</TD><TD width=128>2.45


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Brooke White</TD><TD width=128>2.16


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Kady Malloy</TD><TD width=128>1.89


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Alaina Whitaker</TD><TD width=128>1.87


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Amy Davis</TD><TD width=128>1.64


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD><TD align=middle width=38>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD T_BORDERWIDTH="0" T_BGCOLOR="#ada610"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=diPredictionsTableText><TD width=80>Joanne Borgella</TD><TD width=128>1.31


</TD><TD width=52><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=46 background=../images/icons/button_yellow_48.jpg height=48>1-12
(B3)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=37 height=36>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Man, the DialIdol results reflect how uniformly poor the girls were. No one is categorized as safe, and the top score is 5.2. Contrast that with yesterday, when the top 7 guys had scores higher than that. I still think Amy Davis and Borgella are going home, but it's possible that someone undeserving (or I guess I should say less deserving) could be going home tonight. A few surprises/disappointments in here as well, but I'm hoping that's just because no one really separated themselves from the pack in week 1.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I'm surprised that the 10th place person is that low, otherwise, no surprises. Also, I forgot to mention that I also liked Syesha's performance. It wasn't a great song, but she performed well and you can tell she has potential.

[Ksyrup]

Ha! This was posted by someone on another board I post at:

"I worked with Chikezie Eze. He quit to go on American Idol. GOOD FUCKIN RIDDANCE! We liked to refer to him as Chikazy Lazy. One of the most useless sombitches I have ever had the misfortune to know."

[lordscarlet]

Amanda was so bad tonight, I broke out the comparison to Sanjaya doing You Really Got Me. It was that bad. She doesn't have a distinctive voice - what she has is an annoying, affected attempt to sing like Janis Joplin and other bluesy, barroom-type singers. But she has no voice of her own...she's just singing like somebody else, and doing it poorly. That performance was an out of tune, horrible, screaming mess. I've heard death metal singers with a better sense of melody.

I desperately want a rocker to do well and continue on in this competition, but she is terrible.

She was so bad, I don't really have much to say about the others. A couple did well, most were blah. I disagreed with Simon on that Lushington chick, thought she was decent.

+1000

[Eaglesfan27]

Agreed. Amanda was my 2nd biggest disappointment last night and I wouldn't be surprised if she went home tonight.

[Ksyrup]

Agreed. Amanda was my 2nd biggest disappointment last night and I wouldn't be surprised if she went home tonight.

Not gonna happen. Way too many people thought she was good. I think she may outdo Danny as the lightning rod of the competition. My guess is he becomes the comic relief contestant, and she becomes the love/hate contestant. I expect her to turn in one or two good performances, but if her high energy performances are all going to be like last night, I'm going to choke on my own vomit or declare myself a lesbian in protest of her continuing on the show.

[rkmsuf]

. I expect her to turn in one or two good performances, but if her high energy performances are all going to be like last night, I'm going to choke on my own vomit or declare myself a lesbian in protest of her continuing on the show.

Can I delete this shit then?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Can I delete this shit then?
Can I delete you?

[rkmsuf]

Can I delete you?

Depends what you mean by "delete".

[Pumpy Tudors]

Depends what you mean by "delete".
I might mean "hatefuck."

[Ksyrup]

Can I delete this shit then?

Only if you promise to wait until my wife reads the note in my wallet and officially notifies the board that I'm dead.

If I declare myself a lesbian, I'll post pictures in this thread, guaranteeing that it will be deleted.

So either way, you win.

[rkmsuf]

and then I get hatefucked by pumpy.


man, how depressing

[Ksyrup]

Cheer up, I'm sure pumpy will hatefuck you long before I die.

[Glengoyne]

Cheer up, I'm sure pumpy will hatefuck you long before I die.

Is there an over/under on that?

[MJ4H]

Top 3 Girls:
1. Carly
2. Danny Noriega
3. Alexandrea

[EagleFan]

So he starts the thread. Complains about the show. Keeps watching the show, complains some more. Then threatens to delete the thread.

I think someone has HA complex...

[Drake]

My wife pointed out to me that Danny Noriega bears a striking resemblance to Jessica Alba.

I'm pretty horrified by this revelation.

[Critch]

My wife pointed out to me that Danny Noriega bears a striking resemblance to Jessica Alba.

I'm pretty horrified by this revelation.

Horrified, but strangely aroused?

[korme]

My wife pointed out to me that Danny Noriega bears a striking resemblance to Jessica Alba.

I'm pretty horrified by this revelation.

Thank her for ruining the rest of my 20's

[cartman]

Is there an over/under on that?

I'm pretty sure Pumpy likes it on top.

[Drake]

Thank her for ruining the rest of my 20's

She already ruined my 20's, so I suspect she's just going to find that flattering.

[Thomkal]

well Colton was a mild surprise to go home over Chikieze, but otherwise no surprises with the other three. And I can't believe no one's talked about Paula Abdul's return to "glory". :)

[MJ4H]

That was an easier FFWD than the commercials were, honestly.

[Eaglesfan27]

well Colton was a mild surprise to go home over Chikieze, but otherwise no surprises with the other three. And I can't believe no one's talked about Paula Abdul's return to "glory". :)

Yes. No real surprises there.

That was an easier FFWD than the commercials were, honestly.

That would have been for us, except for some odd reason, my wife wanted to watch it. Afterwards, she wished she hadn't.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I was at least hoping that the Paula Abdul thing would be a different song. I had already heard it once at some point during the Super Bowl pregame a couple of weeks ago. Strangely, it had a completely different video then. Anyway, Paula still has some pretty good dance moves, but why does she sound like a robot during that song? How much did they process her voice? Ghastly.

[rkmsuf]

So he starts the thread. Complains about the show. Keeps watching the show, complains some more. Then threatens to delete the thread.



that's right

I still may delete this mutha.

[Ksyrup]

Good choices to go home. I thought Simon's shot at Colton was unnecessarily harsh, and made the show look bad for putting him in the top 24 to begin with. How can they go through hundreds of auditions, pick a guy, and then have Simon say that he shouldn't keep trying to sing because he has no chance at a career? Then again, my guess is that this was Simon's way of saying "I was right and you were wrong" to Paula and Randy for choosing Colton over that geeky Kyle guy. But I kinda felt bad for Colton that Simon made that kind of comment to him, instead of making a comment about the other two choosing the wrong person. At least it wouldn't have been so direct and harsh. But hey, that's Simon.

[Jim G.]

Good choices to go home. I thought Simon's shot at Colton was unnecessarily harsh, and made the show look bad for putting him in the top 24 to begin with. How can they go through hundreds of auditions, pick a guy, and then have Simon say that he shouldn't keep trying to sing because he has no chance at a career? Then again, my guess is that this was Simon's way of saying "I was right and you were wrong" to Paula and Randy for choosing Colton over that geeky Kyle guy. But I kinda felt bad for Colton that Simon made that kind of comment to him, instead of making a comment about the other two choosing the wrong person. At least it wouldn't have been so direct and harsh. But hey, that's Simon.

Simon's just sick of this. He has not been himself this season at all.

[rowech]

Simon does seem annoyed with the whole show. He likes about six of them I think, can't stand Paula (I know I can't either), and is just putting in his time I think.

[Mustang]

Simon does seem annoyed with the whole show. He likes about six of them I think, can't stand Paula (I know I can't either), and is just putting in his time I think.

He seems mostly annoyed at Paula. He seems to be really pressing her this year to say what she thinks instead of her stupid ass non-commital comments that she throws out.

Although, when Paula says how nice you look that means you really left a turd on the stage.

[Ksyrup]

Actually, what he's been doing to Paula is busting her for not making sense. He hasn't been downright mean about it, but every time she makes a nonsensical statement, he says he doesn't understand what she means. It goes beyond making fun of her for being nice or non-committal.

[wade moore]

What color was that performance?

[rowech]

I agree...Paula and Simon legitimately don't get along. Show would be much better with just Simon and Randy although I don't think Randy's offering that much this year either.

[Drake]

I think they should replace Paula with Jewel. I really enjoyed Jewel's stint last year.

(hubba hubba)

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm done with this show if we don't get Akon shitting on the stage this year.

[Ksyrup]

Speaking of Paula, I knew there was something she said last night that made absolutely no sense and had me laughing, but I couldn't remember it. Until I saw this recap:

"Amy steps up to the stage. Paula, making no sense at this point, tells Amy, “This is the most amazing platform for you, because now you have millions of people, and it’s your chance now to do whatever you want to do. You got to go paint that door, and that knob, and go for it.” WTF? Did Paula just suggest Amy give BJs? Paula is wack, and it’s awesome!"

Lol! That was the line I couldn't remember.

[MJ4H]

Yikes.

[Eaglesfan27]

Speaking of Paula, I knew there was something she said last night that made absolutely no sense and had me laughing, but I couldn't remember it. Until I saw this recap:

"Amy steps up to the stage. Paula, making no sense at this point, tells Amy, “This is the most amazing platform for you, because now you have millions of people, and it’s your chance now to do whatever you want to do. You got to go paint that door, and that knob, and go for it.” WTF? Did Paula just suggest Amy give BJs? Paula is wack, and it’s awesome!"

Lol! That was the line I couldn't remember.

ROFL. I didn't have that interpertation of it until now.

Anyway, I agree with you that Simon has been on Paula more than ever about her wierd phrases, but I disagree with him disliking her. I think that is mostly their act and that he genuinely likes her.

[EagleFan]

that's right

I still may delete this mutha.

Then delete it and stop being a pussy looking for attention by whining, complaining and threatening.

[Ksyrup]

David Lee Roth on American Idol!


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(Clever use of the Runnin' with the Devil vocal track that recently made its way around the net)

[Buccaneer]

He's 64?? Wow.

[Pumpy Tudors]

is this thread still here

[cuervo72]

He's 64?? Wow.

Wiki says 53, fwiw.

[Ksyrup]

I don't consider this a spoiler, so...

This week's theme is 70's; next week's is 80s. Guys performed yesterday and girls today, so there are some guy performance spoilers out there.

I've also read that they really do narrow their song choices down to "about 50" which I read last week somewhere else but didn't want to believe. But after a couple of duplicates last week and reading that same song limit elsewhere, it might be true. Man, that sucks.

[wade moore]

I don't consider this a spoiler, so...

This week's theme is 70's; next week's is 80s. Guys performed yesterday and girls today, so there are some guy performance spoilers out there.

I've also read that they really do narrow their song choices down to "about 50" which I read last week somewhere else but didn't want to believe. But after a couple of duplicates last week and reading that same song limit elsewhere, it might be true. Man, that sucks.

A) That sucks
B) That makes it pretty lame how critical they are of song choice. That means if they don't want dupes the were 27 songs to choose from for last week.

[Ksyrup]

It's even worse. I knew how Great American Band did song choices and wondered, since they're from the same production company, whether that translated to AI. And it does - each contestant chooses 3 songs they want to perform, and the show chooses one for them. And guess what happened to Garrett?

"We are allowed to choose three songs from a list," he tells reporters. "Every contestant is for sure to get one of the songs; I didn't get any of my songs, because they had given them out to all the contestants before that, so I just ended up with having to choose from the list again. I didn't get to chose. They threw the song at me and said, 'Sing this one.' I took what I got and I did what I could with it. It is hard to make a ballad song pop out at the beginning. I did the best I could and I am happy with what I did."

I suppose he'd risk being thrown off the show if he did this, but wouldn't it be awesome if, after getting lambasted for song choice, one of these contestants went off on the song selection process and bitched about being forced to choose a crappy song? I guarantee what happened to Jason Yeager is that he opened his big yapper about Moon River and his Grandma, and they forced him to sing that song because of the backstory.

Oh, and not that this has anything to do with the show or there's anything wrong with it, but pics have surfaced of David Hernandez as a dancer at a gay nightclub called Burn.

[wade moore]

It's even worse. I knew how Great American Band did song choices and wondered, since they're from the same production company, whether that translated to AI. And it does - each contestant chooses 3 songs they want to perform, and the show chooses one for them. And guess what happened to Garrett?

"We are allowed to choose three songs from a list," he tells reporters. "Every contestant is for sure to get one of the songs; I didn't get any of my songs, because they had given them out to all the contestants before that, so I just ended up with having to choose from the list again. I didn't get to chose. They threw the song at me and said, 'Sing this one.' I took what I got and I did what I could with it. It is hard to make a ballad song pop out at the beginning. I did the best I could and I am happy with what I did."

I suppose he'd risk being thrown off the show if he did this, but wouldn't it be awesome if, after getting lambasted for song choice, one of these contestants went off on the song selection process and bitched about being forced to choose a crappy song? I guarantee what happened to Jason Yeager is that he opened his big yapper about Moon River and his Grandma, and they forced him to sing that song because of the backstory.

Oh, and not that this has anything to do with the show or there's anything wrong with it, but pics have surfaced of David Hernandez as a dancer at a gay nightclub called Burn.

This is no way directed at you KSyrup - I hate finding this stuff out about Idol. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Don't get me wrong. Keep posting them and I'll keep reading them, but I guess it's more that I hate that this is what it is really about. Just - meh.

[lordscarlet]

It's not surprising at all, though.,

The one thing I could say in defense is that the band has to be able to play the songs in a week's time as well. And they have to learn all 24 songs. (not that that is really a great justification)

[Joe]

Was this posted yet? iTunes accidentally left the popularity of American Idol downloads available, which they said they wouldn't. I'll spoilerize the list.

http://www.votefortheworst.com/files/u3/itunespopularity.jpg

http://www.votefortheworst.com/20080222/idol_inadvertently_lets_contestant_popularity_slip

[adubroff]

One could make the arguement that if you can't find three songs on a list of 50 that you can sing well you probably aren't the best singer in the pack, or certainly aren't the best contestant. You wonder if there's strategy in the lists, if an obvious front runner would pick a popular song off a list so that they could try to block it from the other contestants, even in place of songs they might do better.

The other thing I wonder, and this piece doesn't really make it clear, is when the choosing happens. I could swear that I've hear idol contestants throughout the years talk about working on more than one song...so maybe the choosing is late in the process. I know for certain that in celeb weeks they sometimes go show the celeb a couple different songs.

[INDalltheway]

Luke Menard was a LOT better this week! Simon obviously didn't want him in the top 24 though.

[MJ4H]

Um, winner???

Good grief that was solid.

David Archuleta (sp??) I mean.

[lordscarlet]

OK. I have no idea why they love David Archuletta. He did a bigger injustice to Imagine than Buccaneer. :)

I did not know you could make that song so bland and uninspiring.

[lordscarlet]

Um, winner???

Good grief that was solid.

David Archuleta (sp??) I mean.

I don't care how "good" his vocal was, I think he murdered that song.

[MJ4H]

Um, what??? He absolutely owned that. That was one of the best performances ever on the show. Easily.

[adubroff]

I don't know where they hid the guys from last week but hopefully they don't come back...This week was much stronger across the board. I think Archuleta's performance will get the pub and rightfully so but I believe he's got some legit competitors. I was very glad to see Chikeze bounce back he's one of my favorites.

My rankings:
DavidA - on paper I thought this song was going to be too big for him but I really liked what he did with the tempo and he showed off his voice bigtime
David Hernandez - Halfway home, best of night so far
Chikeze - I know your name, it's chikeze!. showed off his voice, went from ruben studdard light to ruben ultra.
michael good leadoff batter, rickey henderson? maybe not. He was rock raines tho
jCook - much better than allright, now or anytime.
JasonC solid performance, no big moments
jYaeger - fair to middlin in my book.
DNoriega - slow start, decent build and finish. CREEPY
RCarrico - good fit song wise. Too bad he sucks.
JMenard tackling freddy mercury is tricky, I think he sounded like he was trying to do an impression

[wade moore]

OK. I have no idea why they love David Archuletta. He did a bigger injustice to Imagine than Buccaneer. :)

I did not know you could make that song so bland and uninspiring.

I guess we are cut from the same cloth.

I know/knew no one would agree, but I agree.

Technically an incredible performance.. but I felt like he didn't "get" the song and it showed in how he performed it.

[Thomkal]

A better night overall, but I'm not seeing the "best talent in AI history", at least not yet. Unlike last week, when I thought several could go home, I think its pretty predictable this week. Luke Menard and Jason Yeager improved over last week, but bad song choice on Luke's part, and poor performance on Jason's part likely doomed them. I would put Jason Castro a step above, but not a big one, and then Robbie Carrico as the other potential two in trouble.

I liked David Archuleta the most and I find the love/hate for him on this board very interesting. Michael Johns would have been fifth for me tonight, which is a disappointment given what I've seen of him so far.

[wade moore]

David Archuletta has an amazing voice, amazing control, polished, etc.

That being said - I want to punch him in the face.

[GrantDawg]

David Archuletta has an amazing voice, amazing control, polished, etc.

That being said - I want to punch him in the face.



I get not liking him, and I can't stand Daniel as well, BUT they do have very good voices. David's performance tonight was outstanding. My wife is a huge John Lennon fan, and when I realized what the song was I figured she'd get angry. She doesn't usually like hearing anyone "messing" with Lennon. By the time the song was done, she had goose-bumps and tears in her eyes. It was amazing. It has been a long time since I immediately wanted to see a performance again on AI, but I immediately replayed that one. Incredible.

We all know how this goes. Some people shine early and fade out, so it is hard to be strong on a prediction this soon...yet, I have a feeling David will be performing that at the finale.

As for the rest of the night...meh. There is just not a lot to like in these guys outside of David. Daniel has the second-best potential voice, Chicky dude did better, David Cook is ok but boring, Dread-lock dude is good but lacks vocal-depth.

[wade moore]

In all seriousness I feel like David could run into the problem that Melinda ran into last year - if he just keeps being so good consistently will expectations be skewed and he won't be able to keep up the momentum?

[GrantDawg]

In all seriousness I feel like David could run into the problem that Melinda ran into last year - if he just keeps being so good consistently will expectations be skewed and he won't be able to keep up the momentum?


No. He lacks her biggest weakness. He doesn't look like a troll-doll. The teen girls are going to stay in love with him. Even if he doesn't win this, he has the potential to mint money Miley Cyrus style if they "Disney" him up.

[MJ4H]

In all seriousness I feel like David could run into the problem that Melinda ran into last year - if he just keeps being so good consistently will expectations be skewed and he won't be able to keep up the momentum?

No he won't run into the problems Melinda ran into because he isn't as unattractive as Melinda was.

[wade moore]

No. He lacks her biggest weakness. He doesn't look like a troll-doll. The teen girls are going to stay in love with him. Even if he doesn't win this, he has the potential to mint money Miley Cyrus style if they "Disney" him up.

No he won't run into the problems Melinda ran into because he isn't as unattractive as Melinda was.

Good points.

Either way I'm sure he has a successful career - and at this point doesn't that matter more than AI victory?

[GrantDawg]

Good points.

Either way I'm sure he has a successful career - and at this point doesn't that matter more than AI victory?


Yes. I think none of them would say it, but I think any one of the contestants would trade a successful selling run over winning the show. Winning doesn't equal success at all.

[wade moore]

Yes. I think none of them would say it, but I think any one of the contestants would trade a successful selling run over winning the show. Winning doesn't equal success at all.Exactly. Wouldn't Taylor Hicks rather be Chris Daughtry right now?

[Ksyrup]

Guys, you want to know why some of you were turned off by Archuleta's performance. It's because he's been doing it so long, it's like he's working in Vegas at this point:


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Same arrangement, lower octave.

I was very impressed with Chikeze tonight, and I thought the best part about David Cook's performance was how bad it made Robbie Carrico look. The judges couldn't explain it to Carico after he was done, but David Cook said with his performance what couldn't be put into words - you are not a rock singer, dude. not that Cook was awesome or anything, but the difference in their voices and attitudes was so obvious it was embarrassing to RC.

[Jim G.]

Tonight's column...

http://www.solecismic.com/frontierblog/?p=236

Overall, it was a better night than last week, and the boys are definitely dividing into the cans and the can nots. The only question is whether the voters will pop the Noriega/Castro dictatorship of pretentious mediocrity in time.

[Ksyrup]

Didn't Castro come off as socially awkward/geeky in his piece? That was all kinds of strange to watch. I wasn't expecting that from Jack Johnson Lite. I was really shocked at how bad Noreiga's vocals were tonight. Within 10 seconds I yelled out "Sanjaya, welcome back!"

[Ksyrup]

Jim, totally agree about Cook's comment at the end. Completely ruined the momentum and good feelings he had coming off the performance.

I thought Michael Johns was not good, mainly because he insisted giving Lindsay Buckingham the Eddie Vedder treatment. I'll admit I don't like EV imitations to begin with, but the toneless vibrato really pulled his vocal off key throughout the song.

[korme]

David Archuleta is more overrated than bottled water

[korme]

Didn't Castro come off as socially awkward/geeky in his piece? That was all kinds of strange to watch. I wasn't expecting that from Jack Johnson Lite. I was really shocked at how bad Noreiga's vocals were tonight. Within 10 seconds I yelled out "Sanjaya, welcome back!"

You could see that from Day 1 Castro's been on camera that he is just incredibly shy and doesn't like all the attention. I think that's really going to get votes for him though, talking to my mom tonight she mentioned about Jason "he's so cute". You know, awkward-cute I guess.

[wade moore]

Yay - Jim agrees with me on Archuletta! ;)... And I'm totally agree with his top 3, in that order.

[lordscarlet]

Jim, totally agree about Cook's comment at the end. Completely ruined the momentum and good feelings he had coming off the performance.

I thought Michael Johns was not good, mainly because he insisted giving Lindsay Buckingham the Eddie Vedder treatment. I'll admit I don't like EV imitations to begin with, but the toneless vibrato really pulled his vocal off key throughout the song.

Agreed on David Cook. I was yelling at the screen when he started to talk to Simon, "No! Don't do it! Shut up!"

Michael Johns was so early I forgot how much I disliked him.

David Archuleta is more overrated than bottled water

Thank you!

[lordscarlet]

Yay - Jim agrees with me on Archuletta! ;)... And I'm totally agree with his top 3, in that order.

The National Anthem comparison is spot on.

[Arles]

Archuleta, Cook and Hernandez were the best, Chikezie made the biggest climb back and Yeager is borderline rediculous. Michael Johns set himself up to have a monster show next week if he's smart. He's back in the middle of the pack on expectations by tonight, but he should do very well with any of a handful 80s songs.

Menard is getting hammered, but I liked him a lot more than Carrico, Castro and Yeager. At a minimum, he offers a different sound and took on a very difficult song. It's interesting that the judges constantly criticize people for being "safe", yet they were real nitpiky on Luke's performance. IMO, doing a decent job on a diffcult song is much more impressive than karoke-singing the Doobies or Foreigner somewhat in key. It's like losing in hoops to North Carolina by 3 points compared to beating Canisius by 7. I can't see how the latter is more impressive than the former. I think this might be the easiest week yet for the boys as Yeager and Carrico were miles behind the other guys.

[Ksyrup]

Tonight's spoilers!

1. Carly Smithson – “Crazy On You” by Heart
2. Syesha Mercado – “Me And Mr. Jones (changed from Mrs. to Mr.) by Billy Paul
3. Brooke White – “You’re So Vain” by Carly Simon
4. Ramiele Malubay – “Don’t Leave Me This Way” by Thelma Houston
5. Kristy Lee Cook – “You’re No Good” by Linda Ronstadt
6. Amanda Overmyer – “Carry On My Wayward Son” by Kansas
7. Alaina Whitaker – “Hopelessly Devoted To You” by Olivia Newton-John
8. Alexandrea Lushington – “If You Leave Me Now” by Chicago
9. Kady Malloy – “Magic Man” by Heart
10. Asia’h Epperson – All By Myself by Celine Dion


Brooke certainly picked something right in her wheelhouse, glad to see 2 Heart choices (seems to be a running theme so far, with all the rock going on...?), and Amanda could absolutely destroy (in a bad way) Kansas if we get a repeat of last week. In fact, considering how much my wife loves that song, she may not want to be in the room when she performs it. That Chicago song is wimpy balladry and I can't imagine anyone making a "magical" performance of it.