View Full Version : NY Gov. Spitzer Involved in Prostitution Ring
JPhillips
03-10-2008, 01:24 PM
ZOINKS!!! From the NYTimes:
Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring
By DANNY HAKIM and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM
Published: March 10, 2008
ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.
Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides inside his Fifth Avenue apartment early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He scheduled an announcement for 2:15 after inquiries from the Times.
Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform an end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.
Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.
But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.
The governor’s travel records show that he was in Washington in mid-February. One of the clients described in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, the Emperors Club VIP on the night of Feb. 13.
Mr. Spitzer appeared on a CNBC television show at 7 a.m. the next morning. Later in the morning, he testified before a Congressional committee.
An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.
He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.
Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.
In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.
”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”
Albany for months been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-10-2008, 01:27 PM
Meh. If Bubba can get a blow job and get away with it, I see no reason why this guy can't do the same. Some may see this as a positive for the governor.
miami_fan
03-10-2008, 01:30 PM
This is going to kill the Dems nationally!:rolleyes:
st.cronin
03-10-2008, 01:30 PM
Some may see this as a positive for the governor.
Really? I kinda doubt that, but, um, ok.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-10-2008, 01:33 PM
Really? I kinda doubt that, but, um, ok.
^^^sarcasm meter needs battery replacement^^^
st.cronin
03-10-2008, 01:34 PM
Gotcha.
Flasch186
03-10-2008, 01:35 PM
IMO he'll have to resign. He constantly drums the moral drumbeat and this would be hypocrisy at it's finest. See ya Gov.
SackAttack
03-10-2008, 01:36 PM
If he plays the Clinton card, how does Hillary respond? :)
Toddzilla
03-10-2008, 01:37 PM
define "involved"...
lungs
03-10-2008, 01:38 PM
Not surprising at all, being a Democrat!
Flasch186
03-10-2008, 01:40 PM
$5500 / hr., is the alleged rate!
wow, Call me 555-1212!
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 01:40 PM
It amazes me what people get themselves into.
Logan
03-10-2008, 01:43 PM
Better or worse than the most recent scandal by the Governor of New York's neighbor?
Kodos
03-10-2008, 01:44 PM
Relax, folks. He was probably just personally researching the ring to bring those involved to their knees.
JPhillips
03-10-2008, 01:46 PM
define "involved"...
Paying women a lot of money so he could fuck them.
Relax, folks. He was probably just personally researching the ring to bring those involved to their knees.
Well done.
Young Drachma
03-10-2008, 01:50 PM
IMO he'll have to resign. He constantly drums the moral drumbeat and this would be hypocrisy at it's finest. See ya Gov.
Yeah, he's beating the bully pulpit for a while. This one will smart. Damn.
Eaglesfan27
03-10-2008, 01:57 PM
It amazes me what people get themselves into.
Same here.
Kudos, Kodos.
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 02:01 PM
What a country we live in where the end result of this will be that his wife is relieved he was fucking female prostitutes.
Flasch186
03-10-2008, 02:02 PM
LOL
rkmsuf
03-10-2008, 02:03 PM
Yeah, like George Washington wasn't getting blown at least once a day in the white house by either sex.
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 02:04 PM
"The first-term Democrat been considered a rising star among his party."
Damn you CNN and your typos! I wanted to see if you were referring to his status as "had been considered a rising star..."
cartman
03-10-2008, 02:05 PM
This can only help his Vice Presidential run. Cheney waited 12 hours before telling the world he shot someone in the face. Spitzer, the sly dog, waited several months.
Apathetic Lurker
03-10-2008, 02:26 PM
Meh. If Bubba can get a blow job and get away with it, I see no reason why this guy can't do the same. Some may see this as a positive for the governor.
Positive HIV test maybe...but damn ,some nice looking ho's hangin' with mr Spitzer
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 02:27 PM
"The first-term Democrat been considered a rising star among his party."
Damn you CNN and your typos! I wanted to see if you were referring to his status as "had been considered a rising star..."
Ha! They caught the typo and it is "had". Dude's career is already being referred to in the past tense.
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 02:31 PM
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New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer apologized to his family in an appearance before reporters Monday following reports that he was linked to a high profile prostitution ring.
Spitzer has been indicted in the Southern District of New York in connection to a high-profile prostitution ring and is expected to resign, sources told FOX News.
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Maple Leafs
03-10-2008, 02:37 PM
He has a wide stance!
path12
03-10-2008, 02:42 PM
Yeah, like George Washington wasn't getting blown at least once a day in the white house by either sex.
Watcheth out for fplinterf in thofe wooden teeth.
OR
George Washington Blew Here
Flasch186
03-10-2008, 02:42 PM
LOL
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 02:43 PM
As an attorney, he's got to be the biggest idiot I've seen in some time. My guess is he decided to "go pro" to keep from having to deal with the messiness of a real relationship, but in doing so, he likely caused himself a world of legal problems:
"Federal prosecutors rarely charge clients in prostitution cases, which are generally seen as state crimes. But the Mann Act, passed by Congress in 1910 to address prostitution, human trafficking and what was viewed at the time as immorality in general, makes it a crime to transport someone between states for the purpose of prostitution. The four defendants charged in the case unsealed last week were all charged with that crime, along with several others."
Apathetic Lurker
03-10-2008, 02:51 PM
$5500 / hr., is the alleged rate!
wow, Call me 555-1212!
Your number, she be busy....
Sgran
03-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Paying women a lot of money so he could fuck them.
see, I wasn't sure of that either. Why would they mention a "ring" if he had just paid to play?
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 04:04 PM
Maybe this partially answers your question:
"The New York Sun reports that the investigation was run by U.S. attorneys who not only were probing individuals linked to the ring, but who are part of the federal public corruption unit that investigates wrongdoing by elected and unelected officials."
Subby
03-10-2008, 04:06 PM
"Reinsurers throughout the northeast were seen dancing on their desks this afternoon..."
Ksyrup
03-10-2008, 04:14 PM
"Reinsurers throughout the northeast were seen dancing on their desks this afternoon..."
Yep!
Although we made some nice coin off all those issues, so I probably should be grateful for the Spitzers of the world.
Raiders Army
03-10-2008, 06:52 PM
So did she spitzer or swallows?
Mr. Wednesday
03-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Maybe this partially answers your question:
"The New York Sun reports that the investigation was run by U.S. attorneys who not only were probing individuals linked to the ring, but who are part of the federal public corruption unit that investigates wrongdoing by elected and unelected officials."
Given the well-publicized issues with the selection and vetting of U.S. Attorneys, I wonder how many Republicans they looked the other way for?
DaddyTorgo
03-10-2008, 07:31 PM
the coolest part (i saw on the news) is that WHEN he resigns...the Lt. Gov who takes over will be
1) The 2nd Black Governor in the history of the U.S.
2) The 1st ever legally-blind governor in history
Subby
03-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Why is that so cool? It isn't like he was elected to the position.
Raiders Army
03-10-2008, 09:10 PM
Bill's hoping Barack doesn't accept the Veep role for Hillary so he can jump in and then whack his wife and become president again.
Young Drachma
03-10-2008, 10:19 PM
Why is that so cool? It isn't like he was elected to the position.
He was elected LtG, though.
Young Drachma
03-10-2008, 10:28 PM
the coolest part (i saw on the news) is that WHEN he resigns...the Lt. Gov who takes over will be
1) The 2nd Black Governor in the history of the U.S.
4th overall, but third to serve since Reconstruction.
Douglas Wilder of Virginia was first ever elected in 1990, then Deval Patrick of Massachusetts was second in '06 or whenever he was elected.
There was also a black Governor of Louisiana (biracial if you're not a fan of the one-drop rule..but then, what say we about Obama) who took over during Reconstruction for a month as Senate President Pro-Tem after the Governor was impeached and the LtG there (who was black) died in office.
sterlingice
03-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Paying women a lot of money so he could fuck them.
So that's what the definition of "is" is! I've been wondering ;)
SI
DaddyTorgo
03-10-2008, 10:40 PM
4th overall, but third to serve since Reconstruction.
Douglas Wilder of Virginia was first ever elected in 1990, then Deval Patrick of Massachusetts was second in '06 or whenever he was elected.
There was also a black Governor of Louisiana (biracial if you're not a fan of the one-drop rule..but then, what say we about Obama) who took over during Reconstruction for a month as Senate President Pro-Tem after the Governor was impeached and the LtG there (who was black) died in office.
my bad. I meant to say 2nd currently serving
Groundhog
03-10-2008, 11:10 PM
What a country we live in where the end result of this will be that his wife is relieved he was fucking female prostitutes.
:D
path12
03-11-2008, 12:14 AM
Democrats: At Least We're Fucking Women!
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 06:37 AM
Given the well-publicized issues with the selection and vetting of U.S. Attorneys, I wonder how many Republicans they looked the other way for?
From what I understand, this whole thing began as an alert over the large sum of money leaving his account. This began as a corruption investgiation, and turned into something more (or less, depending on your view of things). Obviously, one would hope Democrats were not the only target and similar large sum transfers of any elected official would be looked at as well.
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 07:06 AM
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Reuters_Photo/2008/03/10/1205178118_4387.jpg
She kinda looks like Jennifer Aniston, but about 15 years older.
Hey, maybe he can argue they were on a break!
Anthony
03-11-2008, 07:30 AM
what a doofus. they all don't look as good as that when they get to be her age. she looks for the most part to be rather bangable.
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 07:38 AM
What a douchebag!
The affidavit says that he met with the woman in Room 871 but does not identify the hotel. Room 871 at the Mayflower that evening was registered under the name George Fox.
One of the law enforcement officials said that several people running the prostitution ring knew Mr. Spitzer by the name of George Fox, though a few of the prostitutes came to realize he was the governor of New York.
Mr. Fox is a friend and a donor to Mr. Spitzer. Asked in a telephone interview on Monday whether he accompanied Mr. Spitzer to Washington on Feb. 13 and 14, Mr. Fox responded: “Why would you think that? I did not.”
Told that Room 871 at the Mayflower Hotel had been registered in Mr. Fox’s name with Mr. Spitzer’s Fifth Avenue address, Mr. Fox said, “That is the first I have heard of it. Until I speak to the governor further, I have no comment.”
"George, I'm sorry, really I am. But Ron Mexico was already taken! What was I supposed to do?!"
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 07:51 AM
"I've been a baaaaaad boy!"
http://gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/03/Picture%202-9.png
Young Drachma
03-11-2008, 08:32 AM
New York Republicans in Legislature give Spitzer a deadline to resign or they'll start impeach proceedings. (http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/spitzer.prostitution.ring.2.673848.html)
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 08:48 AM
Just read this:
"Two law enforcement officials say that safety considerations mentioned in the affidavit related to Spitzer's preference to not wear a condom and insistence by the prostitute named Kristen that he wear one."
Klinglerware
03-11-2008, 09:24 AM
New York Republicans in Legislature give Spitzer a deadline to resign or they'll start impeach proceedings. (http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/spitzer.prostitution.ring.2.673848.html)
Hmm... I wonder if it might be in the Democrats best interest to allow the Republicans to impeach Spitzer. That way, the Republicans look unnecessarily vindictive (and confirm the perception that many people in the state have for the nastiness of state politics in NY), the democrats can try to spin it to make Spitzer look like a victim of Republican demogoguery.
The Democrats can also be rid of Spitzer and his controversial administration, and get the opportunity to wipe the slate clean with the uncontroversial Patterson in time for the next election.
Young Drachma
03-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Hmm... I wonder if it might be in the Democrats best interest to allow the Republicans to impeach Spitzer. That way, the Republicans look unnecessarily vindictive (and confirm the perception that many people in the state have for the nastiness of state politics in NY), the democrats can try to spin it to make Spitzer look like a victim of Republican demogoguery.
The Democrats can also be rid of Spitzer and his controversial administration, and get the opportunity to wipe the slate clean with the uncontroversial Patterson in time for the next election.
Next election is still a while away, no one will remember what happened by then. And I don't think Patterson has the chops to run a statewide election after this term ends, so...while I can see them hunkering down and wanting to say "let's not rush to judgment" or whatever, the best bet to me seems for him to get the hell away and get the news cycle off of this. Otherwise, it'll possibly hurt other Democrats now. Forget what might happen in two years or so.
Apathetic Lurker
03-11-2008, 09:31 AM
Just read this:
"Two law enforcement officials say that safety considerations mentioned in the affidavit related to Spitzer's preference to not wear a condom and insistence by the prostitute named Kristen that he wear one."
You always wear a raincoat when you hit the hershey highway
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-11-2008, 09:33 AM
Amusing. FOX News has put up a photo essay showing the catalog of call girls for the VIP Emperor's Club that Spitzer contacted...........
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,3524,00.html
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-11-2008, 09:36 AM
Hmm... I wonder if it might be in the Democrats best interest to allow the Republicans to impeach Spitzer. That way, the Republicans look unnecessarily vindictive (and confirm the perception that many people in the state have for the nastiness of state politics in NY), the democrats can try to spin it to make Spitzer look like a victim of Republican demogoguery.
The Democrats can also be rid of Spitzer and his controversial administration, and get the opportunity to wipe the slate clean with the uncontroversial Patterson in time for the next election.
It won't come to this. He'll crumble under public and media pressure and resign.
Also, I'm not sure why an impeachment would be considered 'vindictive' in this case. I'm guessing there's not a state in the union outside of Nevada where a governor from either party could get away with this kind of thing unscathed.
Young Drachma
03-11-2008, 09:51 AM
It won't come to this. He'll crumble under public and media pressure and resign.
Also, I'm not sure why an impeachment would be considered 'vindictive' in this case. I'm guessing there's not a state in the union outside of Nevada where a governor from either party could get away with this kind of thing unscathed.
Let alone a guy who has busted prostitution rings himself as a US Attorney.
Klinglerware
03-11-2008, 09:54 AM
Also, I'm not sure why an impeachment would be considered 'vindictive' in this case. I'm guessing there's not a state in the union outside of Nevada where a governor from either party could get away with this kind of thing unscathed.
No, the impeachment wouldn't necessarily be vindictive. But, the democrats can certainly spin it (i.e., the whole "play up the sex/private life angle but play down the true criminality") to make it perceived to be vindictive.
cuervo72
03-11-2008, 09:58 AM
Amusing. FOX News has put up a photo essay showing the catalog of call girls for the VIP Emperor's Club that Spitzer contacted...........
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,3524,00.html
Women of the Emperor's Club - that really needs to be a Playboy pictorial.
Cringer
03-11-2008, 10:01 AM
I am guessing there are many more interesting names in Washington D.C. we will never hear about that paid for services.
Logan
03-11-2008, 10:01 AM
No, the impeachment wouldn't necessarily be vindictive. But, the democrats can certainly spin it (i.e., the whole "play up the sex/private life angle but play down the true criminality") to make it perceived to be vindictive.
...
Let alone a guy who has busted prostitution rings himself as a US Attorney.
Spin over.
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 10:06 AM
No, the impeachment wouldn't necessarily be vindictive. But, the democrats can certainly spin it (i.e., the whole "play up the sex/private life angle but play down the true criminality") to make it perceived to be vindictive.
I don't think they have to spin it. The Clinton ordeal gives them their best argument against a forced resignation. In fact, James Carville is already out there with 2 main points - (a) the whole thing is fishy and might be politically motivated (either that he was specifically targeted, or at least the leak of his involvement), and (b) bringing the whole Clinton thing full circle, he shouldn't resign if this is just about sex. I'll give Carville credit for one thing...at least he's consistent!
Just like with Clinton, he's ignoring the legal issues involved, of course. The Clinton thing wasn't a big deal until he lied under oath - I mean, it was a big deal because the Prez cheated on his wife with an intern, but as far as impeachment, that only gained traction because of his legal issues. I think the same thing applies here. If Spitzer isn't charged with anything - and so far, they've only charged the people running the ring - I think he has an argument that he shouldn't resign. That might not be feasible given the backlash and the fact that we're 10 years down the road from Clinton and people just aren't as forgiving, but I think he could push it. His problem is, he didn't just cheat on his wife - heck, Guilani did that and it never rose to this level - he did so with a prostitute and appears to have violated federal law in doing so. As an attorney, the least he could have done to protect himself was to choose someone in state! Geez!
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-11-2008, 10:08 AM
No, the impeachment wouldn't necessarily be vindictive. But, the democrats can certainly spin it (i.e., the whole "play up the sex/private life angle but play down the true criminality") to make it perceived to be vindictive.
And then, once the general public and media finish laughing themselves to death.........
Seriously, any attempt at spin in the manner you're describing would fall flat on its face. I'm guessing the Democrats aren't that stupid.
Honolulu_Blue
03-11-2008, 10:16 AM
I don't think they have to spin it. The Clinton ordeal gives them their best argument against a forced resignation. In fact, James Carville is already out there with 2 main points - (a) the whole thing is fishy and might be politically motivated (either that he was specifically targeted, or at least the leak of his involvement), and (b) bringing the whole Clinton thing full circle, he shouldn't resign if this is just about sex. I'll give Carville credit for one thing...at least he's consistent!
Just like with Clinton, he's ignoring the legal issues involved, of course. The Clinton thing wasn't a big deal until he lied under oath - I mean, it was a big deal because the Prez cheated on his wife with an intern, but as far as impeachment, that only gained traction because of his legal issues. I think the same thing applies here. If Spitzer isn't charged with anything - and so far, they've only charged the people running the ring - I think he has an argument that he shouldn't resign. That might not be feasible given the backlash and the fact that we're 10 years down the road from Clinton and people just aren't as forgiving, but I think he could push it. His problem is, he didn't just cheat on his wife - heck, Guilani did that and it never rose to this level - he did so with a prostitute and appears to have violated federal law in doing so. As an attorney, the least he could have done to protect himself was to choose someone in state! Geez!
Clearly the lesson from all of this is that when you're thinking about hiring a prostitute act locally.
It sounds like this guy made a ton of enemies. You can't be too surprised that it eventually came back and bit him in the ass.
Butter
03-11-2008, 01:42 PM
Clearly the lesson from all of this is that when you're thinking about hiring a prostitute act locally.
It sounds like this guy made a ton of enemies. You can't be too surprised that it eventually came back and bit him in the ass.
Yep. Can't see how he won't resign after this.
korme
03-11-2008, 01:46 PM
Didn't know Bill Cowher had an alias/second career
Mr. Wednesday
03-11-2008, 01:49 PM
From what I understand, this whole thing began as an alert over the large sum of money leaving his account. This began as a corruption investgiation, and turned into something more (or less, depending on your view of things). Obviously, one would hope Democrats were not the only target and similar large sum transfers of any elected official would be looked at as well.
One would hope so, but the donnybrook over the firing of U.S. attorneys suggests otherwise.
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 02:49 PM
"I've been a baaaaaad boy!"
http://gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/03/Picture%202-9.png
Uh-oh. This guy just resigned, and they haven't mentioned anything sexual in nature, but...
LOOK AT HIS FACE!!!
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/03/11/fallon.resigns/t1home.fallon.filer.ap.jpg
(and no, that's not Tom Coughlin)
JasonC23
03-11-2008, 02:51 PM
Seriously, any attempt at spin in the manner you're describing would fall flat on its face. I'm guessing the Democrats aren't that stupid.
Is that a challenge??
(And I'm a lifelong Democrat.)
Logan
03-11-2008, 02:55 PM
From what I understand, this whole thing began as an alert over the large sum of money leaving his account. This began as a corruption investgiation, and turned into something more (or less, depending on your view of things). Obviously, one would hope Democrats were not the only target and similar large sum transfers of any elected official would be looked at as well.
All banks must maintain a list of PEPs (Politically Exposed Persons). There are controls in place anytime large currency transactions take place, but when it's linked to a PEP, there are different avenues for the bank to go down in reporting it to FinCEN. I can say with first-hand experience that all large sum transfers of elected officials are looked at.
Autumn
03-11-2008, 02:57 PM
Amusing. FOX News has put up a photo essay showing the catalog of call girls for the VIP Emperor's Club that Spitzer contacted...........
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,3524,00.html
Boy, those are a bunch of skinny broads, for the most part.
Ksyrup
03-11-2008, 03:00 PM
All banks must maintain a list of PEPs (Politically Exposed Persons). There are controls in place anytime large currency transactions take place, but when it's linked to a PEP, there are different avenues for the bank to go down in reporting it to FinCEN. I can say with first-hand experience that all large sum transfers of elected officials are looked at.
Yeah, I take it on its face that this wasn't some sort of targeted thing, like Carville is making it out to be (or at least suggesting).
cartman
03-11-2008, 11:18 PM
The t-shirts have already started to appear:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/23579565?photo=1
Ksyrup
03-12-2008, 08:39 AM
Interesting that the Fox News report that he was planning to resign on Monday night was accurate, but his lawyers talked him out of it. What they are trying to do right now is secure a plea deal with no prison time in exchange for his resignation, and they needed him to remain Gov to maintain that bit of leverage with the Feds.
Lathum
03-12-2008, 09:31 AM
Yahoo is reporting he is out
Ksyrup
03-12-2008, 09:35 AM
11:30 presser
Young Drachma
03-12-2008, 09:39 AM
Story (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/opinion/12mcgreevey.html?hp)
Former NJ Governor Jim McGreevey's ex-wife discussing the whole "stand by your man" thing and admitting she didn't know he was gay until he gave her a copy of his speech an hour before he was scheduled to do it.
Oops.
Logan
03-12-2008, 10:24 AM
Story (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/opinion/12mcgreevey.html?hp)
Former NJ Governor Jim McGreevey's ex-wife discussing the whole "stand by your man" thing and admitting she didn't know he was gay until he gave her a copy of his speech an hour before he was scheduled to do it.
Oops.
Especially shocking since she was apparently the only person in Jersey who didn't know he was gay.
Young Drachma
03-12-2008, 10:47 AM
Especially shocking since she was apparently the only person in Jersey who didn't know he was gay.
No kidding. But maybe she's just trying to sell her book.
Logan
03-12-2008, 03:39 PM
All banks must maintain a list of PEPs (Politically Exposed Persons). There are controls in place anytime large currency transactions take place, but when it's linked to a PEP, there are different avenues for the bank to go down in reporting it to FinCEN. I can say with first-hand experience that all large sum transfers of elected officials are looked at.
As a follow-up, from today's WSJ:
Mr. Spitzer's status as a prominent government official appears to have opened the door to investigation into the matter. Many banks now examine transactions involving so-called "politically exposed persons" -- politicians, judges, prosecutors and their families -- to ensure they're not used to hide ill-gotten gains. At least one bank used by Mr. Spitzer, Capital One Corp.'s North Fork unit, flagged his transactions to federal regulators as a potential sign of corruption, people with knowledge of the transactions said.
cartman
03-12-2008, 10:02 PM
...and the pics of the escort have been discovered. The Smoking Gun has them up, if anyone is interested.
edit: evidently she has (had) a MySpace page as well
Logan
03-13-2008, 06:39 AM
She went to high school with my ex-girlfriend. I'll pass on the obvious analagous joke.
Dr. Sak
03-13-2008, 06:44 AM
Drudge has a link to her myspace page.
Ksyrup
03-13-2008, 06:49 AM
Her pic is on the front page of CNN. Probably not as revealing as what you can find elsewhere, but still...goodbye anonymity!
BishopMVP
03-13-2008, 07:51 AM
From the MySpace page When I was 17, I left home. It was my decision and I’ve never looked back. Left my hometown. Left a broken family. Left abuse. Left an older brother who had already split. Left and learned what it was like to have everything, and lose it, again and again. Learned what it was like to wake up one day and have the people you care about most gone. I have been alone. I have abused drugs. I have been broke and homeless.It's like a walking cliche.
DaddyTorgo
03-13-2008, 12:26 PM
From the MySpace page It's like a walking cliche.
you left out the part where she said she had abused dogs. :mad:
edit: or maybe i was half-asleep when reading last night and dogs=drugs? idk
korme
03-13-2008, 08:37 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and post a pic for the lazies:
http://selflaugh.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/kristen2.jpg
DaddyTorgo
03-13-2008, 08:44 PM
strictly meh
no way worth $4500
bulletsponge
03-13-2008, 08:48 PM
strictly meh
no way worth $4500
how many women are worth 4500 a bang?*
* please dont answer this in this thread
DaddyTorgo
03-13-2008, 08:55 PM
how many women are worth 4500 a bang?*
* please dont answer this in this thread
lol
oh I think there are some. I can think of one off the top of my head.
Apathetic Lurker
03-13-2008, 09:00 PM
Maybe her personality adds a couple thou dead presidents
JonInMiddleGA
03-13-2008, 09:22 PM
http://www.macon.com/149/story/292746.html
Along with grooming potential major leaguers, Minor League Baseball is all about entertainment through unconventional ideas.
The Macon Music are hoping to capitalize on their latest.
The team announced Wednesday that Luther Williams Field will play host to Eliot Spitzer night on June 13 in honor of the disgraced New York governor who announced his resignation Wednesday after allegations surfaced about his involvement in a prostitution ring.
“If you look at Minor League Baseball as a whole, it’s all about the wildest, wackiest promotions out there,” South Coast League chief development officer J.D. Hardin said. “Hopefully, people will take this with a light attitude.”
The plans call for an invitation extended to Spitzer to attend the game and throw out the first pitch. Other elements for the promotion include:
- The Music will give away a trip to New York and a one-night stay at the Mayflower Hotel.
- The ninth fan – or Client No. 9, as Spitzer was known in the prostitution ring – into the ballpark will receive a free Music prize pack.
- Fans with the name Eliot, Spitzer or Kristen, along with any fan from New York, will receive $1 off admission. Any fan who has ever resigned a position will also receive $1 off admission.
- The Music will play Frank Sinatra songs throughout the night.
- Wire taps will be placed around the stadium.
- Fans will be able to use ATMs in the ballpark available for cash withdrawals not to exceed $5,000 per hour.
- The 871st fan through the gates will receive a gift certificate for the team store.
... as of Wednesday afternoon, Spitzer had not yet accepted or declined the invitation to attend the game. The promotion, however, will go on as planned regardless of Spitzer’s decision.
JPhillips
03-13-2008, 10:01 PM
The Music will give away a trip to New York and a one-night stay at the Mayflower Hotel.
Dear Macon Music,
The Mayflower is in Washington, D.C.
Sincerely,
B & B
03-14-2008, 01:33 AM
http://selflaugh.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/kristen2.jpgI applied for membership in the Emperor's Club.
Rejected! Apparently my American Express Card is the wrong color.
They suggested I apply at the Centurion's Club and the Gladiator's Club.
Again, rejection. They said, "You might try the ORC -- Ordinary Romans Club." So I filled out an app. it asked if I was familiar with Greek, something to do with the initiation ceremony. . I said "No, but I did take Latin in High School."
Not good enough, apparently.
All that's left is the Christian Singles. If you can make it through a couple of sessions with the Lions Club in the Coliseum, you're in. They've only got a single "escort," and everybody has to take turns "going for a ride" so to speak.
Apparently it's a Ford, 1987 DX model.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-14-2008, 08:09 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337788,00.html
Also, I am relieved to report that Ashley’s MySpace page is back up and running. Apparently it got so many hits that the servers went down. Ashley is an expert, however, about things going down, and took it on the chin.
Ksyrup
03-14-2008, 08:13 AM
Penthouse has already made her an offer.
Ksyrup
03-14-2008, 10:46 AM
There are a few radio things going on that are Spitzer-related, but this one really caught my eye:
Sirius Launches 'Client 9 Radio'
You Give Us 22 Minutes, We'll Give You A Scandel
SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO has created "Client 9 Radio," a channel that will explore the breaking news, facts, fallout, psychology and implications of the SPITZER scandal. "Client 9 Radio" will air MARCH 14th at 5p ET - midnight MARCH 17th on SIRIUS channel 126.
VINNIE POLITAN, former COURT TV RADIO host, will be live in studio throughout the weekend to take calls from around the country, and offer expert legal advice and insight.
Ksyrup
03-14-2008, 03:13 PM
I'm not posting the pic here, but apparently she's baring as much as possible in a NY Post "photo exclusive."
B & B
03-14-2008, 04:45 PM
IF I can save one, just ONE PERSON, from going to NYPost to see them then my job is done.
So.
Not
Worth
It.
cartman
03-14-2008, 04:49 PM
Looks like she hasn't slept since the news broke.
Buccaneer
03-14-2008, 05:03 PM
Looks like she hasn't slept since the news broke.
She didn't sleep much before the news broke either.
Anthony
03-14-2008, 05:22 PM
i wonder if her rates just went up because of this scandal. btw, i will have a hearty laugh if she winds up having a spokesperson and/or agent from all this.
hookering is as stupid as lapdances. they obviously don't really want you. every once in a while it can be a hoot just trying to get an erection with someone who actually loves you, how the hell do you get it up for someone who clearly is thinking about other things to not get disgusted in you while you pound her vagina. when i allegedly have lapdances and the girls start to rub themselves on me and moan, i feel like saying "please don't do that, you're actually distracting me because we both know you aren't getting enough pleasure out of this to elicit moans".
so again, i just find it odd that some people can completely buy into this farce, or that some guys are able to put it out the of their heads completely that the hookers are pretending. if you can make yourself tune out the fact that the prostitute isn't attracted to you physically then you have the mental ability to trick yourself into believing your wife is Jessica Alba when you fornicate with her. hey, hookering is the oldest profession so i'm obviously missing something.
Buccaneer
03-14-2008, 05:35 PM
It's all about power and the invincibility to feel that such power can command and not endure consequences.
Anthony
03-14-2008, 06:00 PM
wait, is that why Governors do it or why people in general do it?
cuz if it's the 1st one - he's the friggin Governor - he should already have that feeling of power.
Buccaneer
03-14-2008, 06:22 PM
wait, is that why Governors do it or why people in general do it?
cuz if it's the 1st one - he's the friggin Governor - he should already have that feeling of power.
But this particular governor grew up with a sense of entitlement and streamrolled his way to the top, burning bridges and getting his way no matter the cost. The greater the success, the greater the sense of invincibility...and the greater the fall (we saw this with Ted Haggard as well). A lot of people in power feel they are lucky to be there, but there are those that will abuse such power for personal gain and corruption.
Glengoyne
03-14-2008, 08:54 PM
There was a story on NPR about the banking software that tipped authorities to his activities.
The software identifies all sorts of suspicious financial activity. It isn't limited to large transactions. EVERYONE with an account at the bank is assigned a "risk level". Oh and Politically Empowered People get a bump in their "risk level" automatically.
The ironic thing, is that many of the laws he helped put in place as attorney general brought about the use of the software that pointed the authorities to him. If anyone should have known better...it was really him.
Ksyrup
03-14-2008, 09:34 PM
i wonder if her rates just went up because of this scandal. btw, i will have a hearty laugh if she winds up having a spokesperson and/or agent from all this.
Are you kidding? This chick will probably sell 250K copies of her CD. Already, it's taking off on the radio stations, and the site where you can buy 2 of her singles went from charging $.15 a song to $.98.
She's going to make a helluvalotta money out of this.
Anthony
03-15-2008, 08:06 AM
Are you kidding? This chick will probably sell 250K copies of her CD. Already, it's taking off on the radio stations, and the site where you can buy 2 of her singles went from charging $.15 a song to $.98.
She's going to make a helluvalotta money out of this.
great. now a whole legion of girls who think they have it bad at home will have their inspiration to finally leave, become a prostitute and get "famous".
funny question: when she fornicated with the Governor, did she have to sign a waiver or something? or did she go "heh, you know, you kinda look like that Spitster guy" and Spitzer responded "honey, i get that all the time, now get back into position dammit!". lol. i've heard of living dangerously, but if this federal wiretapping didn't catch him did he think his prostitutes wouldn't blackmail him?
i've now become scared that this guy was in charge of New York all this time.
Ksyrup
03-16-2008, 09:14 AM
After seeing that pic of her with her parents, I kinda thought this might be the case:
'Kristen's' MySpace Story News To Her Friends
Alleged Call Girl Said To Live Life Of Privilege In N.J.
Reporting
Jay Dow NEW YORK (CBS) ― So who is the woman at the center of the Spitzer scandal? She was living a double life as an adult – but growing up a wealthy teen in New Jersey is a far cry from how she described her younger years.
Is the alleged prostitute named 'Kristen,' also known as Ashley Dupre, telling the truth about her hard scrabble life?
"I was kind of shocked by that too," said Lauren del Valle, her former best friend.
Contrast that with what Dupre's self-described pimp told CBS 2 News on Friday:
"I knew her as Ashley, I knew her as one of the sexiest women I've ever had the pleasure of knowing."
Back in Ashely's Wall Township neighborhood, Del Valle says 'Kristen' went by her given name, Ashley Youmans.
"I live next door to her. Obviously her parents have a lot of money. I feel like growing up you know, she got what she wanted," said del Valle.
Lauren says Ashley lived a charmed life in a sprawling, million dollar home; a total contradiction to the abuse, drugs and poverty she writes about on her 'MySpace' page.
"I never witnessed or knew of any abuse. Or heard of any abuse here," said del Valle.
Photographers spent a second day huddled in front of her families New Jersey home. Neighbors say the media frenzy is becoming too much to handle.
"I think enough is enough. Anything that could have been said by the press has been said," said an anonymous resident.
According to family members, Ashley left her home five years ago at the age of 17, landing eventually in New York City with big dreams of becoming an R&B singer.
Del Valle told CBS 2 that Ashley talked about putting her name out there and becoming famous. Surely however, Ashley Youmans never expected it would happen like this. <!--IBF.ATTACHMENT_607123-->
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tucker rocky
03-16-2008, 02:09 PM
I'm not posting the pic here, but apparently she's baring as much as possible in a NY Post "photo exclusive."
http://www.aolcdn.com/aolnews_photos/09/02/20080316103609990001
st.cronin
03-17-2008, 09:16 AM
Ashley Youmans? Wonder if she's related to Floyd.
Young Drachma
03-17-2008, 02:43 PM
Governor Patterson's inaugural where he basically cracks jokes for the first 8 minutes. Good stuff, seriously. The rest of the speech is substantive, but it's not on youtube yet.
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JonInMiddleGA
03-18-2008, 07:34 AM
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080318/D8VFQ4LO0.html
LBANY, N.Y. (AP) - With his predecessor's term doomed by a sex scandal, brand-new Gov. David Paterson tried to come clean about his own skeletons just hours after assuming office by acknowledging a years-old affair.
Paterson was sworn in almost exactly a week after allegations first surfaced that former Gov. Eliot Spitzer was "Client 9" of a high-priced call girl service. Responding to rumors circulating in Albany, Paterson and his wife, Michelle, told the Daily News of New York City that both had affairs during a rough patch in their marriage several years ago.
"This was a marriage that appeared to be going sour at one point," Paterson told the Daily News. "But I went to counseling and we decided we wanted to make it work. Michelle is well aware of what went on."
Paterson told the newspaper that he maintained a relationship with another woman from 1999 until 2001. He and his wife, Michelle, eventually sought counseling and repaired their relationship. The couple did not go into details.
Paterson and the other woman sometimes stayed at a Days Inn on Manhattan's Upper West Side, the governor said, adding that his Albany staff sometimes stayed there as well when they were in the city. Paterson said he did not use government or campaign funds to pay for the romantic encounters.
What I want to know is whether he knows anyone named McGreevey ... and just how well does he know them? ;)
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080317/D8VFDKV82.html
Ksyrup
03-19-2008, 07:20 AM
So this whole story about Ashley being set to make tons of money for "exclusive" pics/video of her baring all has been blown to pieces by Girls Gone Wild. They were set to offer her $1M for her to do a video, when someone in their research staff realized she did 7 full-length videos for them back in 2003, including some girl on girl action. $1M offer revoked, and GGW is now actively selling the old videos.
So I gotta guess this means she'll make far less for an "exclusive" with Hustler or Playboy, right? Who cares if she poses nude for pics now when you can buy a video of her with another chick?
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wade moore
03-19-2008, 07:24 AM
The "tabloid" side of KSyrup intrigues me for some reason.
Ksyrup
03-19-2008, 07:35 AM
I'll spare you the detailed self-psycho-analysis, but let's just say it's an outlet for the way I live life like it's one big Mystery Science Theater episode.
wade moore
03-19-2008, 07:49 AM
I'll spare you the detailed self-psycho-analysis, but let's just say it's an outlet for the way I live life like it's one big Mystery Science Theater episode.
Hey - far be it from me to criticize - I spend all day on a sports text sim message board ;).
Ksyrup
03-19-2008, 07:55 AM
Why do you think I enjoy reality shows so much? So many idiots, so little time.
wade moore
03-19-2008, 08:01 AM
Why do you think I enjoy reality shows so much? So many idiots, so little time.
Oh yes - definitely makes you feel better about your own life.
Ksyrup
03-19-2008, 08:25 AM
Joe Francis: the definition of "Pure Class"
"She spent a week on the bus, where she engaged in girl-girl action and got nude. I actually think she had a sexual relationship with a cameraman....I personally remember Ashley. She was really at her peak back then. I'm glad I got to her before Spitzer - she looked a lot better at 18."
Ksyrup
03-27-2008, 08:36 AM
Overkill at this point, but dude's been linked to a second high-priced call girl operation.
Logan
04-03-2008, 03:17 PM
"I've been a baaaaaad boy!"
http://gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/03/Picture%202-9.png
Along the same lines...
http://i25.tinypic.com/35c1w13.jpg
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