Its' Here! NHL 2008 Playoff Thread

[Pyser]

it's the most wonderful time of the year.

some great first round matchups.

bring it on, king henrik.

[Logan]

The best part about playing the Devils? I'll actually be able to get to some games. Not at the Garden of course, but in the brand new Prudential Center, which the Devils can't sell out on their own so it will be 60% filled with Ranger fans. I'll be at Games 5 & 7 for sure if it goes that far, and probably Game 2 as well.

[MizzouRah]

Go Blues!


I mean, it's baseball season!!!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum. The NJD-NYR series will be a bunch of 1-0 and 2-1 games. PIT-OTT might be some 6-5 games in there.

Also of note-- Jagr scored vs. NJ today. giving him 17 straight 25+ goal seasons.

[sterlingice]

Go Blues!


I mean, it's baseball season!!!

So, they're out playing golf right next to the Hawks, I see ;)

SI

[JPhillips]

Regardless of what happens I'm thrilled the Caps are in. There's a lot o talent on that team and the should be a Cup contender in the next few years.

[Captain2711]

The best part about playing the Devils? I'll actually be able to get to some games. Not at the Garden of course, but in the brand new Prudential Center, which the Devils can't sell out on their own so it will be 60% filled with Ranger fans. I'll be at Games 5 & 7 for sure if it goes that far, and probably Game 2 as well.

I second that. Games 1, 5 and 7 for me. Jagr seems to be peaking right now, hopefully that will be the difference.

[Honolulu_Blue]

So here's what Pierre McGuire has to say about the Wings:

"It hurts me to say this, but I think the Red Wings are in trouble. I think they are an older team. I think they're in trouble because they're not a balanced offense. I think they're in trouble because their goaltending is unproven this year."

Wow. That's pretty fucking original Pierre. The Wings old? That's an incredible observation. Perhaps you could also mention how they lack toughness and will get pushed around by the likes of San Jose or Anaheim.

And their goal tending unproven? Completely. It's not like they won the Jennings Trophy this year or anything. Oh wait...

There are plenty of knocks against the Wings. They are far from a sure thing in these playoffs, but I would really like some expert/analyst to come up with something original and based on, oh, I don't know, facts or actual performance of something.

[Logan]

I like how he doesn't just say that they are old. He "thinks" they're old.

[miked]

Man, I really hope we can sacrifice Colin White to take out Jagr. Not because the fear of him scoring, it's just that he's such a bitch I would love to see him get Lindros-ed. :woot: playoff hockey.

[Logan]

I don't know, maybe it's me or I'm just not remembering his early days well...but Jagr's play doesn't scream out "bitch" to me. The guy's about 240 lbs and plays like it when he needs to.

[Maple Leafs]

I'm really excited for the playoffs to begin. I hope the NHL is wise enough to build in several days of unnecessary days off so that my interest can drop down to a reasonable level before the games start.

[Logan]

I'm really excited for the playoffs to begin. I hope the NHL is wise enough to build in several days of unnecessary days off so that my interest can drop down to a reasonable level before the games start.

How about the two full travel days between Games 2 and 3 of the NYR-NJ series? It's pretty important to have all that time to make the 7 mile trip.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'm really excited for the playoffs to begin. I hope the NHL is wise enough to build in several days of unnecessary days off so that my interest can drop down to a reasonable level before the games start.

Since when is 2 days (Monday and Tuesday) several? A couple days between the end of the regular season and the playoffs is pretty common, no? If anything, I think it helps build some anticipation, gives time for people to analyze all the series, figure out when the games are, etc.

[Draft Dodger]

Game 2 of the Avs-Wild series is Friday night at 9pm on Versus. Which is totally cool, except that they'll be joining that game in progress after the 7pm Washington game ends. If there's no OT, I'll only miss the first 30 minutes or so. No biggie - I'm sure there was a good reason to not have the game just start at 10 or something. Probably a conflict with midget trout fishing or celebrity bull riding.

[Logan]

That's horrible.

[TurnerONU22]

So here's what Pierre McGuire has to say about the Wings:

"It hurts me to say this, but I think the Red Wings are in trouble. I think they are an older team. I think they're in trouble because they're not a balanced offense. I think they're in trouble because their goaltending is unproven this year."

Wow. That's pretty fucking original Pierre. The Wings old? That's an incredible observation. Perhaps you could also mention how they lack toughness and will get pushed around by the likes of San Jose or Anaheim.

And their goal tending unproven? Completely. It's not like they won the Jennings Trophy this year or anything. Oh wait...

There are plenty of knocks against the Wings. They are far from a sure thing in these playoffs, but I would really like some expert/analyst to come up with something original and based on, oh, I don't know, facts or actual performance of something.

One of McGuire's other arguments a couple weeks ago on NBC was another original: "They only have over 100 points because they're playing in the weaker Central division and have CHI, STL and CBJ to feast on"

:rolleyes:

[Pumpy Tudors]

It should be noted that Draft Dodger is pretty much the only person on this planet who's interested in the Avs-Wild series. I think he cares more about it than the players and coaches do.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Game 2 of the Avs-Wild series is Friday night at 9pm on Versus. Which is totally cool, except that they'll be joining that game in progress after the 7pm Washington game ends. If there's no OT, I'll only miss the first 30 minutes or so. No biggie - I'm sure there was a good reason to not have the game just start at 10 or something. Probably a conflict with midget trout fishing or celebrity bull riding.

Speaking of this series, it's great that the Wild went out and got Chris Simon in addition to Boogaard and Fedoruk to, you know, contend with the likes of Ian Laperrier.

[Honolulu_Blue]

One of McGuire's other arguments a couple weeks ago on NBC was another original: "They only have over 100 points because they're playing in the weaker Central division and have CHI, STL and CBJ to feast on"

:rolleyes:

That's the best one.

Let's see what reality has to say about Pierre's original observation:

Overall vs. Central
Win%: 65.9 53.1
GFA: 3.13 2.81
GAA: 2.24 2.47

Oops...

[Draft Dodger]

It should be noted that Draft Dodger is pretty much the only person on this planet who's interested in the Avs-Wild series. I think he cares more about it than the players and coaches do.

this is true.

[DeToxRox]

HB is on fire

[sachmo71]

I'm going out on a limb...
Stars = done in 5

[Draft Dodger]

Speaking of this series, it's great that the Wild went out and got Chris Simon in addition to Boogaard and Fedoruk to, you know, contend with the likes of Ian Laperrier.

it gets funnier. a week or so ago I was watching the Wild & Avs play and the Wild guys were going on and on about how much tougher the Wild were this year and how much different it was going to be for the Wild in this postseason. And I'm thinking, are any of those guys even going to play???

There was a little incident at the end of Sunday's game involving Lappy and Gaborik. Lappy grabbed Gaborik's stick and Gabby pushed at Lappy. The two eventualyl traded a couple of lame blows but it wasn't much of a fight. I was shocked they each got 5 for it instead of roughing minors. Heck, Lappy didn't even take off his gloves.

Boogaard (a scratch on Sunday) has been talking a little shit about it, but it hasn't generated much buzz. The Avs are not the Ducks. Lappy will fight anyone, but he's maybe 6' tall and if guys like Gaborik is willing to take him on....The other "tough" guy is Cody McLeod. He can fight...but he tends to, shall we say, choose his battles very carefully.

[Honolulu_Blue]

HB is on fire

It's playoff time. It's time to step it up.

In fact, thanks to Lady H_B's cousin's dog (a German Sheppard/Akita) trying to eat my face over the weekend, it looks like I will be growing a playoff beard for the first time in years. It's hard to shave properly when you have an 8 stitch gash from the bottom of your left nostril to your upper lip. It reckons to be one kick ass scar...

[Pyser]

early thoughts

boston over montreal in 6
pitt over ottawa in 5
washington over philly in 6
new jersey over rangers in 7 (gotta think positive)

detroit over nashville in 6
calgary over san jose in 6
colorado over minn in 5
anaheim over dallas in 4

[MikeVic]

Boston over Montreal, bullshit. The others are ok.

[Pyser]

i like bostons game, dont trust price, and think boston gets a boost from bergeron being around again

if anything, the sj pick is the crazy one

[DeToxRox]

Carey Price is the truth. I expect a huge series from him.

[MizzouRah]

So, they're out playing golf right next to the Hawks, I see ;)

SI

You got it! :p

[TurnerONU22]

That's the best one.

Let's see what reality has to say about Pierre's original observation:

Overall vs. Central
Win%: 65.9 53.1
GFA: 3.13 2.81
GAA: 2.24 2.47

Oops...

I know, I just wanted to strangle Pierre for that, you'd think he could just, I don't know, actually check that out before he spews crap out of his mouth. I knew it was the case, but I went to ESPN to check right before I posted.

DET vs. Central 17-12-3
DET vs. Northwest 15-2-3
DET vs. Pacific 15-5-0


I can't stand the Wings at all, but I hate ignorant announcers even more.

[TurnerONU22]

You got it! :p

Hey, don't leave the Jackets out of it!

[sabotai]

Anyone know if the games on NBC will be in HD or not?

[Chief Rum]

Hmm, too many people picking the Ducks to schlack the Stars. I know y'all are just trying to jinx them. No way this is an easy series, I don't care how the Stars finished the season. Way too many tested vets on that team to go quietly, and the Ducks haven't exactly been smooth sailing recently either, with their injuries and the Pronger suspension.

I'm as concerned about this series as I am upcoming possible series with Detroit or San Jose.

[duff88]

NHL Draft Lottery is in a few minutes. Projected first overall pick Steven Stamkos has 11 goals and no assists in 7 games so far with the OHL's Sarnia Sting in the playoffs. All other potential first overall picks are defensemen: Alex Pietrangelo, Drew Doughty and Zach Bogosian.

Tampa Bay, Los Angeles, Atlanta, St. Louis and New York (I) have a shot at the first overall pick.

[Pyser]

Anyone know if the games on NBC will be in HD or not?

every sunday game theyve aired for the past few years has been in hd. no reason to think they wont be for the playoffs. though they are only on sunday on nbc, right?

or maybe there is sarcasm here that i am missing altogether.

[DeToxRox]

Hmm, too many people picking the Ducks to schlack the Stars. I know y'all are just trying to jinx them. No way this is an easy series, I don't care how the Stars finished the season. Way too many tested vets on that team to go quietly, and the Ducks haven't exactly been smooth sailing recently either, with their injuries and the Pronger suspension.

I'm as concerned about this series as I am upcoming possible series with Detroit or San Jose.

My tested vets you mean tested in first and second round play? They've had a complete meltdown the last month and they've shown no real signs of breaking out of it. The offense isn't dynamic enough to score on Anaheim, and the D isn't strong enough to take the beating they'll get from the Ducks forwards. Turco may've played great last playoffs but he still has the stigma of the unclutch goalie and lastly Anaheim is reaching their stride, while Dallas hasn't even hit the worst of their slide.

[sabotai]

every sunday game theyve aired for the past few years has been in hd. no reason to think they wont be for the playoffs. though they are only on sunday on nbc, right?

or maybe there is sarcasm here that i am missing altogether.

No sarcasm, I don't have HD so I never paid attention, but a friend of mine (who does) is a massive Flyers fan so I may see if he'll be watching the games on the weekends. And they are showing games on Sat. and Sun. for the playoffs.

[DeToxRox]

Montreal over Boston in 6
- Price may look slow early but should bounce back. Boston doesn't have enough fire power, and they have questions in net.

Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 5
- Ottawa has issues in net, and their Captain is out. The Pens will just flat outscore Ottawa, and worry about their defensive game in the second round.

- Washington over Philadelphia in 6
When a team is playing as great of hockey as Washington to make the playoffs, it translates over nicely into the chase for Lord Stanley's cup. Philly has no D, and though the Cap's D is also flakey, their offense has more punch then the Flyers.

Rangers over Devils in 7
- Seems like one of those series when something has to give. I don't like the Devils chances if they need to score 3 goals to win every game.

Detroit over Nashville in 6
- Nashville will play hard but when your #1 goaler is a 28 year old rookie, there is a problem there, no matter how good he's played.

Calgary over San Jose in 7
- Calgary is built for the playoffs. San Jose is a good team. and this should be the first rounds best series, but after the disappointment of last year, I expect Calgary to find a way to beat San Jose down and pull out a game 7 in the Tank.

Minnesota over Colorado in 6
- A popular pick is Colorado over Minnesota, but I don't see it with Colorado's goaltending situation. Plus this leads to my dream matchup ..

Anaheim over Dallas in 4
- Anaheim is playing their best, Dallas their worst. Wild vs Ducks, and Fight Night at the Xcel in the second round.

[sterlingice]

It should be noted that Draft Dodger is pretty much the only person on this planet who's interested in the Avs-Wild series. I think he cares more about it than the players and coaches do.

Awesome, Pumpy :D

SI

[Sublime 2]

Montreal over Boston in 6
- Price may look slow early but should bounce back. Boston doesn't have enough fire power, and they have questions in net.


I think Tim Thomas has better numbers than Price this year, but with that said Montreal in 6. It's just nice the B's are back in the playoffs.

[sachmo71]

Hmm, too many people picking the Ducks to schlack the Stars. I know y'all are just trying to jinx them. No way this is an easy series, I don't care how the Stars finished the season. Way too many tested vets on that team to go quietly, and the Ducks haven't exactly been smooth sailing recently either, with their injuries and the Pronger suspension.

I'm as concerned about this series as I am upcoming possible series with Detroit or San Jose.

We have Turco. You win.

[Chief Rum]

My tested vets you mean tested in first and second round play? They've had a complete meltdown the last month and they've shown no real signs of breaking out of it. The offense isn't dynamic enough to score on Anaheim, and the D isn't strong enough to take the beating they'll get from the Ducks forwards. Turco may've played great last playoffs but he still has the stigma of the unclutch goalie and lastly Anaheim is reaching their stride, while Dallas hasn't even hit the worst of their slide.

I generally agree with all this, but I still think Dallas has too much talent for us to sweep them or take four of five unless things just break our way. I suspect this will be a six or seven gamer. I believe we should win--we had the better record and we have home ice and we're the defending champs, with all that goes with that. But "should" doesn't win series, especially in fierce intradivisional playoff series--there is no love lost between Dallas and Anaheim, anymore than there will be if we play San Jose at some point. I think Dallas is still one very talented team, and if we rest on our laurels, we're going to get our asses handed to us.

[Chief Rum]

We have Turco. You win.

lol

So do people really think we're playing at our best? I know it's easy to look at 18-5-1 (or whatever) in the last 24 games and figure that team's playing pretty well, but as a night-to-night observer of the team, I have to tell you, this team is not really clicking on all cylinders. They're actually grinding right now. That could be affected by watching San Jose just blow away competition, but I think that's pretty on the mark.

We lost Perry a month and change more ago, and we desperately need him back (he's probably going to miss the first round). We haven't had that instant score ability we had last year (although we did gain some of it back with the return of the Flash). Bobby Ryan is still trying to get the hang of things, and Bertuzzi and Weight are showing some age. Scotty, as amazing as he is, has seen his points per game and plus/minus drop. Maybe he'll turn it on now, maybe not. The power play has been much worse this year overall than last year. And everyone knows the wildcard that is Pronger. He's scary good when he's out there. But he's always a risk to draw a suspension.

We have been gutting out wins, we do have uber-tested playoff vets and our penalty kill and goaltending (especially in the playoffs) is lights out.

But I'll tell you now, this is just not the same team as last year. If we're going to win it again, we're going to have to step it up at least a couple notches. I don't think the team we ended the season with beats the Wings or Sharks in a seven game series with four on the road. I am of the opinion that only the Wings and Sharks will ultimately beat us, but that could just be silly fan enthusiasm (no, probably).

[bhlloy]

Turco has to not suck in the playoffs some day. I'm very worried about the Stars as well. I don't think there is any way it goes less than 6. If Turco can resemble anything close to a starting NHL goalie, it's going to be a very low scoring series with Perry still out. And Steve Ott and Mike Ribero have absolutely owned the Ducks this year.

I'm bracing for the ripping from the Wings fans, but I would rather see them than Dallas or San Jose. I just think we match up better with a less physical team.

[Pyser]

am i crazy or did marty turco not stand on his head last playoffs and single-handedly keep dallas in the series?

i even remember posting that no matter what happens, turco had exercised his demons

maybe i have a terrible memory though

[Pyser]

Turco has to not suck in the playoffs some day.

dola, i looked it up

in 7 games, turco allowed a whopping 11 goals. 5 of them came in game 1...but it went to quadruple overtime.

in the series, he had a save percentage of .952.

and oh yeah, all 3 wins were by shutout.

[Suburban Rhythm]

NHL Draft Lottery is in a few minutes. Projected first overall pick Steven Stamkos has 11 goals and no assists in 7 games so far with the OHL's Sarnia Sting in the playoffs. All other potential first overall picks are defensemen: Alex Pietrangelo, Drew Doughty and Zach Bogosian.

Tampa Bay, Los Angeles, Atlanta, St. Louis and New York (I) have a shot at the first overall pick.
Looks like the Bolts will replace Richards much quicker, and cheaper, than expected.

[Draft Dodger]

I think criticism of Turco is one of the most ridiculous things in hockey. I would take him on my team in a heartbeat.

[bhlloy]

dola, i looked it up

in 7 games, turco allowed a whopping 11 goals. 5 of them came in game 1...but it went to quadruple overtime.

in the series, he had a save percentage of .952.

and oh yeah, all 3 wins were by shutout.

Well then there you go... in my defense the Dallas fans started it :D

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think criticism of Turco is one of the most ridiculous things in hockey. I would take him on my team in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't reccomend this if your team has to play many games against the Wings. He's 2-9-5 lifetime against the Wings with a .899 sv %. I don't think he's ever won at Joe Louis Arena.

I know he had struggled in the past in the playoffs, but I thought he sort of shook that off last year. He was amazing, unfortunately Luongo was just a little bit better.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'm bracing for the ripping from the Wings fans, but I would rather see them than Dallas or San Jose. I just think we match up better with a less physical team.

No. No ripping. Anaheim and San Jose are the favorites in the West. I would rather face Detroit than either of those teams.

As for Dallas, I don't think they're really that much more physical than the Wings, especially if, due to some injuries up front, the Wings dress both Downey and McCarty.

[sachmo71]

turco really did stand on his head last year, but I'm going with history. Turco will lose. It's all his fault Modano and Ribero won't score.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I am now a fan of Bob Duff.

http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/sports/story.html?id=f33e91c2-707e-4b9a-aee2-ec257ee017d6

Too soft. Too old. Too European. Too weak. No heart.

To listen to the National Hockey League's talking heads talk about the Detroit Red Wings, if the Wings don't set up a meeting with the Wizard of Oz and fast, their chances of capturing the Stanley Cup are non-existent.
Some of hockey's loudest voices --Don Cherry from Hockey Night In Canada's Coach's Corner, Pierre McGuire and Mike Milbury from TSN and NBC and Mike Emrick of NBC, gathered Monday to offer their assessment of the impending National Hockey League playoffs, and much Detroit bashing was on the agenda.

Sadly, it was simply a case of perpetuating the same tired, old myths about the Wings, who open the playoffs Thursday against the Nashville Predators.

You'd think the most recognizable analysts in the game could see past the stereotype.

"Detroit is a team that won the Jennings Trophy, won the Presidents' Trophy, has a strong candidate for the Norris and the Hart Trophies (Nicklas Lidstrom), a coach who's been mentioned as coach of the year in (Mike) Babcock and two of the top six scorers in the league (Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg) and yet there seems to be questions about them," Milbury said.

"I think the reasons are two. The first is their goaltending. Is (Dominik) Hasek going to be able to perform at the level he has done in the past and drive them deep into the playoffs? If he can't, will (Chris) Osgood?

They've been just OK.

"The second one is character. Nashville has it by the bucket load. The Europeans have smashed a lot of stereotypes, but it still raises its ugly head when you talk about Detroit. Do they have enough character, or are they going to be stamped as the Euro skill players and can Nashville intimidate them?"

TESTY RESPONSE

It's the latter criticism that causes steam to rise from the ears of the Wings' brass.

"Didn't we answer those questions last year when we went to the conference final," growled Wings general manager Ken Holland regarding his club's supposed lack of toughness.

Cherry is also of the belief that Hasek, 43, is the weak link that will cause the Wings to break.

"Hasek doesn't seem as he's got that bounce," Cherry said. "He's stopping pucks, don't get me wrong. I think he's a good goaltender. But to me, he doesn't look as alive as he used to."

Babcock was perplexed by the criticism launched at his netminders.
"Didn't we just win the Jennings?" he asked, obviously aware of the answer. "Didn't we allow the fewest shots in the league. Chris Osgood led the league in goals against all season.

"What more do they want?"

Apparently, nothing less than a Stanley Cup celebration will silence Detroit's critics.

McGuire took the Wings' secondary scoring to task.

"If Detroit can't get consistent scoring from Datsyuk and Zetterberg, it puts a lot of pressure on Tomas Holmstrom and Johan Franzen to produce," he said.

You mean the two guys who combined to net 47 goals this season, among 10 Wings who netted double digits?

The funny thing is, all of these experts are picking the San Jose Sharks to win it all. Those would be the same Sharks who folded up their tents at the first sign of adversity in their series with Detroit last spring. Now there's a team whose character rightfully deserves to be questioned.
For these hockey mavens to raise the same issue about the Wings merely shows that they haven't been paying attention.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Round 1

EAST:
Montreal over Boston in 6
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 4
Washington over Philadelphia in 6
Rangers over Devils in 5

WEST:
Detroit over Nashville in 5
San Jose over Calgary in 5
Colorado over Minnesota in 7
Anaheim over Dallas in 6

Round 2

EAST:
New York over Montreal in 7
Pittsburgh over Washingon in 6

WEST:
Detroit over Colorado in 6
Anaheim over San Jose in 7

Conference Finals

East:
Pittsburgh over New York in 6

West
Anaheim over Detroit in 6

Stanley Cup Finals
Anaheim over Pittsburgh in 5

[JonInMiddleGA]

Western Conference
Detroit over Nashville in 5 games
Calgary over San Jose in 6
Colorado over Minnesota in 6
Anaheim over Dallas in 6

Eastern Conference
Montreal over Boston in 5
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 5
Philadelphia over Washington in 7
New York over New Jersey in 7

[Fidatelo]

West
Det over Nash 4-2
SJ over Cgy 4-2
Min over Col 4-3
Ana over Dal 4-2

East
Mtl over Bos 4-3
Pit over Ott 4-0
Wsh over Phi 4-3
NJ over NYR 4-3

[Draft Dodger]

I'm notoriously lousy on these

Det over Nash in 5
SJ over Cal in 6
Col over Min in 6
Dal over Ana in 7

Bos over Mon in 7
Pit over Ott in 6
Was over Phi in 6
NYR over NJ in 6

San Jose was my preseason pick for the Finals (along with, get ready to laugh, Toronto) and I'll stick with them. In the East, I think it's kind of a crapshoot. When I had to make a pick for the Times blog I picked the Rangers. Then I switched to the Devils. And then switched back to NY. I don't really have a good reason why, but I guess I feel the eastern finalist will be the winner of that series.

[Maple Leafs]

San Jose was my preseason pick for the Finals (along with, get ready to laugh, Toronto)
I understand each of the words individually, but this sentence makes no sense to me.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Eh, OK, I'll give this a try.

DET over NSH in 6
SJ over CAL in 6
MIN over COL in 5
ANA over DAL in 6

MON over BOS in 5
PIT over OTT in 6
PHI over WSH in 5
NYR over NJ in 6

I hate myself for that last one, but oh well. :(

[Dr. Sak]

I'll keep track of it again if you guys want.

[MikeVic]

Guess I'll try...

DET over NSH in 5
SJ over CAL in 6
MIN over COL in 6
ANA over DAL in 6

MON over BOS in 5
PIT over OTT in 5
WSH over PHI in 6
NJ over NYR in 7

[Travis]

West
Detroit over Nashville in 6
San Jose over Calgary in 7
Colorado over Minnesota in 6
Anaheim over Dallas in 5

East
Montreal over Boston in 5
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 6
Philadelphia over Washington in 6
New York over New Jersey in 7

[Suburban Rhythm]

I hope all these predictions of a Pens sweep don't jinx us!

First round

Montreal over Boston in 6
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 5
Philly over Washington in 7
NYR over NJ in 7

Detroit over Nashville in 5
San Jose over Calgary in 7
Colorado over Minnesota in 6
Anaheim over Dallas in 6

Conf Semis

Montreal over Philly in 6
Pittsburgh over NYR in 7

Detroit over Colorado in 6
San Jose over Anaheim in 7

Conf Finals

Pittsburgh over Montreal in 6
San Jose over Detroit in 6

SC Finals (homer alert!)

Pittsburgh over San Jose in 6

[yacovfb]

Montreal over Boston in 6 - When's the last time these two have met in the playoffs and Montreal hasn't won?

Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 5 - Should be a high scoring series, Pens are playing good hockey right now, Sens aren't and are without the captain...not a good combo.

Washington over Philly in 5 - Both teams had to play at least decent hockey down the stretch to get in, but I like the skilled Caps to beat the tougher Flyers...the longer this series goes, however, the more of an edge I'd give to Philly.

Devils over Rangers in 7 - The Devils style of play + Brodeur's brilliance usually is a good combo for the playoffs

Detroit over Nashville in 6 - Detroit shouldn't have too much trouble but the Preds might play with new life knowing they're not playing the Sharks.

SJ over Calgary in 6 - Flames have a good style for the playoffs but they've been inconsistent this year and the Sharks are peaking at the right time.

Colorado over Minnesota in 5- Don't really know what to expect from this series, but my gut just tells me the Avs will win fairly easily.

Anaheim over Dallas in 6 - Should be a good series, but there's too many question marks that don't bode well for the Stars: Turco, poor play down the stretch, overcoming the Ducks mix of firepower and toughness (Ott, for example, will have to be a little less of a pussy if they want to match up in this category), etc.

Can't wait for tomorrow...Go Sharks!

[TazFTW]

Wings over Preds in 6
Flames over Sharks in 5
Wild over Avs in 6
Stars over Ducks in 7

Habs over Bruins in 5
Pens over Sens in 6
Caps over Flyers in 5
Rangers over Devils in 6

[Pyser]

NYR over NJ in 6

I hate myself for that last one, but oh well. :(

I completely agree, but could not force myself to pick the rangers, no matter how hard i tried. i'd rather be wrong than type that we could lose to fucking gomez.

[Fidatelo]

I think I'm going to game 4 of the NYR/NJ series! Woohoo!

If this post jinxes it I will crawl into a corner and die.

[Vince]

I'm just retarded. Don't mind me.

Go Sharks.

[Pyser]

does anyone with center ice have a playoff schedule? i have no info as to who is on what channel....which makes games tough to record while im at work

[Simms]

Not strictly playoff-related, though I suspect the timing isn't entirely accidental ....

TSN has finally let loose with their redesign ... huge huge improvement.

http://www.tsn.ca/

[Suburban Rhythm]

I think I'm going to game 4 of the NYR/NJ series! Woohoo!

If this post jinxes it I will crawl into a corner and die.

I have every other Penguins home game (as a partial season holder). But I am torn. My game would be Friday night. They aren't the best seats in the world, but they are OK. I pay $40 a piece. Someone at work offered me $150 a piece. I can't pass that up.

And that's just round one. I'll pay for the playoffs AND next season at this rate.

[Dr. Sak]

- Washington over Philadelphia in 6
When a team is playing as great of hockey as Washington to make the playoffs, it translates over nicely into the chase for Lord Stanley's cup. Philly has no D, and though the Cap's D is also flakey, their offense has more punch then the Flyers.


They may have no one in the league of Ovechkin but the Flyers have 7 players that scored 20 or more goals this year. That's some pretty good scoring depth. What I am hoping is that the Caps feasted on the weaker Southeast Division for almost a month now and people have a wrong impression of them. While the Flyers had to battle through the Atlantic and still made it out.

[Dr. Sak]

I have every other Penguins home game (as a partial season holder). But I am torn. My game would be Friday night. They aren't the best seats in the world, but they are OK. I pay $40 a piece. Someone at work offered me $150 a piece. I can't pass that up.

And that's just round one. I'll pay for the playoffs AND next season at this rate.

I bet you could get more if you would've posted them on ticketmaster. A guy I work with got $125 a piece for the Pens/Rangers regular season game, and his tickets are in section E.

[Draft Dodger]

Not strictly playoff-related, though I suspect the timing isn't entirely accidental ....

TSN has finally let loose with their redesign ... huge huge improvement.

http://www.tsn.ca/

I'm not so sure if I like it. I really dug their old layout. This one seems too much like ESPN to me. Anyone know why they got rid of the scouting reports on the player cards? I noticed they dropped around the trade deadline. I assumed it was to temporarily ease the burden on the servers, but they never came back.

[Draft Dodger]

does anyone with center ice have a playoff schedule? i have no info as to who is on what channel....which makes games tough to record while im at work

they FINALLY have put up the schedule (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageIF.jsp?assetId=1800012) for tonight and tomorrow, but that's it. It would be nice if they could get their act together...

[Young Drachma]

Go Devils. Screw the Rangers and that carpetbagger.

[Logan]

It's weird hearing all my Devil fan friends say how the Rangers are so much better, guaranteed to win, etc. I'm hoping that by pointing out their attempts at reverse psychology, I can reverse the effect they are trying to cause.

[Fidatelo]

It's official, I'll be in section 220 of MSG next wednesday night! Sweet! I can't wait to heckle people. I think I'll be a Rangers fan for the night and pick on Brodeur :P

[Draft Dodger]

Great news: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=233827&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

"Mick McGeough, who announced his retirement this season, will also not work the postseason."

[Draft Dodger]

Great news: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=233827&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

"Mick McGeough, who announced his retirement this season, will also not work the postseason."

[Draft Dodger]

apparently, I was so excited I had to say it twice. it's the internet version of shouting with glee from the mountaintops.

[Maple Leafs]

Pardon my ignorance of the Western Conference, but have the Wings settled on a full-time goalie?

[DeToxRox]

Pardon my ignorance of the Western Conference, but have the Wings settled on a full-time goalie?

I'm under the impression it's Dom. He's played the majority of the recent games.

[MikeVic]

Detroit being considered "west" is weird.

[DeToxRox]

Detroit being considered "west" is weird.

Don't get me started. It's BS I have to stay up until one AM for two series minimum if they make it to the Cup. But the West needs to Detroit, they put a lot of fans in the seats.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'm under the impression it's Dom. He's played the majority of the recent games.

You are correct, sir. They will be going with Hasek.

I see a lot of 2-1/3-2 type games with the Wings out shooting their opponent 42-14.

[Maple Leafs]

You are correct, sir. They will be going with Hasek.

So he's the full-time starter (barring injury or prolonged slump)?

Or is it a Gerber/Emery scenario where one bad game could mean the other guy gets the ball.

[DeToxRox]

So he's the full-time starter (barring injury or prolonged slump)?

Or is it a Gerber/Emery scenario where one bad game could mean the other guy gets the ball.

Probably won't. If Hasek struggles and we go down 2-0, then Osgood will come in, but that's the only scenario I can see.

[Honolulu_Blue]

So he's the full-time starter (barring injury or prolonged slump)?

Or is it a Gerber/Emery scenario where one bad game could mean the other guy gets the ball.

More the former than the latter. Hasek would have to get injured or play very, very poorly and Osgood play very well in relief for Babcock to make a switch.

I think the intention all along has been to keep Hasek fresh and healthy for the playoffs.

[Maple Leafs]

Any word on which round Hasek has chosen to fake his injury in?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Any word on which round Hasek has chosen to fake his injury in?

please stop causing problems

[Dr. Sak]

Any word on which round Hasek has chosen to fake his injury in?

He has to consult with Crosby first because they both don't want to fake at the same time, that'll take the limelight off of one another.

[MikeVic]

What about Forsberg?

[Dr. Sak]

East
Montreal over Boston in 4
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 5
Philly over Washington in 7
New York over New Jersey in 6

West
Detroit over Nashville in 5
San Jose over Calgary in 6
Minnesota over Colorado in 7
Anaheim over Dallas in 6

[Maple Leafs]

East
Montreal over Boston in 5
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 7
Washington over Philly in 6
New York over New Jersey in 7

New York over Montreal in 6
Pittsburgh over Washington in 5

Pittsburgh over New York in 6

West
Detroit over Nashville in 5
San Jose over Calgary in 7
Colorado over Minnesota in 6
Anaheim over Dallas in 5

Detroit over Colorado in 5
Anaheim over San Jose in 7

Detroit over Anaheim in 7

Finals: Detroit over Pittsburgh in 5

[Honolulu_Blue]

Thanks for using the Spoiler Tags this year. It's greatly appreciated.

Oh, and:


YES!!

[Dr. Sak]

I think the roof just blew off Mellon Arena...Gary Roberts scored in the first minute to make it 1-0 Pens.

[stevew]

Where the hell are all these games on? VS is in the upper tier DISH package, kind of stupid to limit their market like this. But i guess it's par for the course for the NHL.

[stevew]

nevermind
FSN's schedule was wrong.

[TazFTW]

Go Devils. Screw the Rangers and that carpetbagger.

Love that carpetbagger. :D

[DeToxRox]

Any word on which round Hasek has chosen to fake his injury in?

I think he did that during the Maple Leafs playoff round .. the regular season.

[TazFTW]

lol @ Marty

[Dr. Sak]

There are more Rangers fans at The Rock than Devils fans.

[TazFTW]

w00t!

[Pumpy Tudors]

You know, I love Martin Brodeur, and the Devils don't win 3 Cups without him, but it seems like he makes one really boneheaded play every year that can or does cost the Devils a game. Score tied at 1, and he's watching a puck just sitting in his crease. A Rangers player (Ryan Callahan, I think) zips from behind the net and taps the puck in. Marty was staring at the puck in the crease. Ridiculous.

[Logan]

You know, I love Martin Brodeur, and the Devils don't win 3 Cups without him, but it seems like he makes one really boneheaded play every year that can or does cost the Devils a game. Score tied at 1, and he's watching a puck just sitting in his crease. A Rangers player (Ryan Callahan, I think) zips from behind the net and taps the puck in. Marty was staring at the puck in the crease. Ridiculous.

Live by the sword (constantly using your goalie to jump-start your offense), die by the sword (try to set up your outlet pass in your head before actually gathering the puck).

[Maple Leafs]

Thanks for using the Spoiler Tags this year. It's greatly appreciated.

Remember not to ruin the surprise for your friends.

By the way, Gary Bettman just read my predictions and spent the next two hours fondling himself.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Oh, this is nice. Versus is picking up CBC's feed.

Finally CBC in High Definition.

[TazFTW]

Oh, this is nice. Versus is picking up CBC's feed.

Finally CBC in High Definition.

I believe they did that last year as well if the game involved a Canadian team. Not sure if it was in HD though.

[Pyser]

no surprises here, time warner fucked up their schedule and didnt record the game for me.

its my own playoff tradition with this piece of shit company

sounds like i didnt miss much though

[Draft Dodger]

and, those who were mislead by pumpy's bad advice and stayed away from the Avs-Wild game, you missed a hell of a hockey game. The Avs went up 2-0. The Wild came back 2-2. The tying goal should have been a backbreaker for the Avs, but Quenneville calls a timeout, calms the team down, and then the Avs just go to town, pretty much controlling the game from then on out.

In the last 10 minutes or so in the 3rd, the Avs had two goals waved off (including one that probably was, indeed, a goal), a shot off the post, a shot off the crossbar and, with 2:27 left, an unsuccessful penalty shot. They finally won it in OT. Of course it would be the league's all-time playoff OT goal scorer, Joe Sakic. Great, great game.

[Vince]

So I can hardly comment authoritatively, as I didn't get to watch the whole game (stupid band nazis). It seemed, however, like the refs in the San Jose - Calgary game were INCREDIBLY quick to blow the whistle when the puck got into the Calgary crease, regardless of whether or not Kipper had control of the puck.

This is no excuse, and I'm not trying to whine, but it struck me as odd.

[Suburban Rhythm]

When I grow up, I want to be Gary Roberts.

[miked]

God I hate the Rangers. That is all.

[Maple Leafs]

Two "little things" I saw from the Pens last night that I really liked:

- One the second goal (the 2-on-1), watch Malkin after the goal. I believe you learn a lot about a team from the way they celebrate goals. If they jump around or look like they're shocked it went it, that's a bad sign. Malkin doesn't even react at all. He just takes his mouth guard out and glides over pat Sykora on the head. Not even a smile. This kid is ready to play.

- Late in the game, Wade Redden and Sidney Crosby get into a purse-swinging* incident. Not a big deal, but Whitney skates in from the blue line and just pummels Redden. In the dying seconds Gary Roberts basically drops his gloves and challenges any Senator to come get him. Chris Neil is on the ice but barely makes eye contact. The old Senators may be back.

* Thank you, Paul Maurice

[Fidatelo]

I loved that Pens/Sens game for the reasons ML states above. The Pens just look ready to play. Crosby didn't put up points, but as the announcers stated he did the little things (and I think he did more offensively than the announcers gave him credit for).

Malkin looks amazing. I haven't watched him play much since he entered the NHL, but good grief he was a force last night. His goal was awesome, and his reaction after was great in a different way than the one ML wrote about. As he's skating behind the net, one of the Sens gives him a shot. He starts to turn to react, then just gets this look of "whatever, that chumps not worth my time" and resumes his fist pump.

I also have to say that while I don't normally like Don Cherry, he was exactly right in calling out Chris Neil for his actions during the Crosby-Redden purse fight, as ML so elegantly put it. I couldn't believe that the teams big enforcer would just stand there chatting with Crosby while Redden got pounded on. Just bizarre. I saw several other incidents too where the Sens players just don't seem to stand up for each other. Weak looking team.

[MikeVic]

Is Roberts really on the Pens' 4th line? That's a nice thing to have!

[Dr. Sak]

Is Roberts really on the Pens' 4th line? That's a nice thing to have!

Gary Roberts isn't on the 4th line....he is the 4th line.

[Maple Leafs]

Is Roberts really on the Pens' 4th line? That's a nice thing to have!
In name only. It's like when you're playing NHL 95 and you put your best players on the "4th line" so that the AI will match up with them.

Little known fact: The NHL has a "maximum awesomeness" limit on any one line, which is why the Penguins have to play crappy guys like Georges Laraque on the Roberts line.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Colorado totally dominated after Minnesota's 2nd goal. They really played well and looked dangerous. Theodore was solid. Colorado has the potential to be a very scary team if they can stay healthy.

The Senators are done. They looked horrible. Chris Neil was a joke. Later in the game when Roberts was challenging everyone, Laraque was out there as well as Neil and Neil never made eye contact. Just gutless.

[Ajaxab]

Versus is screwing us over tonight, at least according to my guide. Apparently, Versus HD is showing Masters highlights in spite of the fact that ESPN is doing the exact same thing at the exact same time. So the Wings-Preds is on Versus low def. Not only will more people likely tune to ESPN for Masters coverage than to Versus, but 'casual fan' will be much less likely to watch hockey in low def than HD. Figure that one out.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Versus is screwing us over tonight, at least according to my guide. Apparently, Versus HD is showing Masters highlights in spite of the fact that ESPN is doing the exact same thing at the exact same time. So the Wings-Preds is on Versus low def. Not only will more people likely tune to ESPN for Masters coverage than to Versus, but 'casual fan' will be much less likely to watch hockey in low def than HD. Figure that one out.

That is total bullshit. The whole point of being on Versus was that the NHL was supposed to be king. Versus would promote the NHL, have the post game shows, etc, etc, etc. Now they do this? The NHL playoffs are when this sport really excels above all others, just blows them away, and they are getting bumped for first day Masters highlights? COME ON!

Well, it doesn't make much difference to me, I will be getting the game in HD on the local Fox Sports Network, but given the number of Wings fans who don't live in the area... COME ON!

[Dr. Sak]

Versus is screwing us over tonight, at least according to my guide. Apparently, Versus HD is showing Masters highlights in spite of the fact that ESPN is doing the exact same thing at the exact same time. So the Wings-Preds is on Versus low def. Not only will more people likely tune to ESPN for Masters coverage than to Versus, but 'casual fan' will be much less likely to watch hockey in low def than HD. Figure that one out.

VersusHD (in my area at least) splits time with the GolfChannelHD on that HD station.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Gary Roberts was amazing in those final seconds last night. I wasn't pleased with his hit that almost put Bass face-first into the boards, but he was ready to take on the whole Ottawa team. My goodness, I couldn't believe it. The officials tried to get him off the ice, and he wouldn't go. Absolutely amazing.

I didn't even notice that Chris Neil was out there for the Whitney-Redden incident or the Gary Roberts blowup at the end. Jeez, I almost feel bad for the psyches of the Senators, as they probably expect to get the living shit beat out of them for the next 3 games. I know Gary Roberts is tough as all get-out, but when an 41-year-old man coming off a broken leg is kicking an entire line's collective ass, there are serious issues.

This has the potential to get as silly as that Buffalo-Ottawa brawl from last year (?) when Lindy Ruff put his tough guys out there against Ottawa's #1 line. Spezza will be flat on his stomach getting beaten up, Heatley will do his roadrunner impression, and Mike Comrie will be laughing out on the golf course because he doesn't have to put up with that shit again.

I can't wait.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Heatley will do his roadrunner impression,

Wait. Are you talking about Danny Heatley? One of the premiere power forwards in the history of the NHL?

Surely, you must be joking.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Wait. Are you talking about Danny Heatley? One of the premiere power forwards in the history of the NHL?

Surely, you must be joking.
I set 'em up, you knock 'em down. :)

[Suburban Rhythm]

Two "little things" I saw from the Pens last night that I really liked:

- One the second goal (the 2-on-1), watch Malkin after the goal. I believe you learn a lot about a team from the way they celebrate goals. If they jump around or look like they're shocked it went it, that's a bad sign. Malkin doesn't even react at all. He just takes his mouth guard out and glides over pat Sykora on the head. Not even a smile. This kid is ready to play.

- Late in the game, Wade Redden and Sidney Crosby get into a purse-swinging* incident. Not a big deal, but Whitney skates in from the blue line and just pummels Redden. In the dying seconds Gary Roberts basically drops his gloves and challenges any Senator to come get him. Chris Neil is on the ice but barely makes eye contact. The old Senators may be back.

* Thank you, Paul Maurice

Wade Redden should be banned from the NHL for getting roughed up by Ryan Whitney. He has to be the weakest 6'4" 215 lb guy in the NHL.

[Fidatelo]

I missed the first period, but this looks like a fun little game in Montreal!

[Chief Rum]

Glad we showed up for the playoffs.

[MikeVic]

Didn't watch much hockey tonight, but saw Chara getting roughed up a bit in the Montreal game. One hit was a cool looking sandwich!

And now I just saw Selanne throwing punches! Yes!

[bhlloy]

I don't think the Ducks can score on the Stars right now, and Giguere has been dodgy. Oh, and tons of bad penalties. Great combination.

[Chief Rum]

I don't think the Ducks can score on the Stars right now, and Giguere has been dodgy. Oh, and tons of bad penalties. Great combination.

Isn't it, though? And we have had some awful games this year against the Stars. I really think this is going to be a very difficult series.

[MikeVic]

Ugly 4th goal! Anaheim fell asleep there or something.

[Chief Rum]

Okay guys, it's not the regular season anymore. Some people need a serious stretch in front of the mirror in the Anaheim lockeroom. Dallas is playing very good, and I don't want to take anything away from them. But the Ducks just are playing awful, awful hockey. Making dumb positioning and penalty mistakes and Jiggy is acting like Turco (and vice-versa).

I want someone to be pissed in that lockerroom, since us fans can't be in there to let them know this sort of performance isn't acceptable for playoffs. :mad:

[MikeVic]

Poor Mikka. The Sharks had two 5-on-3s, and then a 5-on-4?

[DeToxRox]

I'm amazed at how awful Anaheim looks. It's only one game though, but this is pretty remarkable.

Also, Detroit and Nashville had an exciting up and down game tonight. Detroit catches a break on a bounce off the ref that was probably offsides but that happens in the Playoffs. I fully expect McCarty and Tootoo to drop the gloves before all is said and done as they came close a few times tonight. Lot of chirping, lot of high hits. All the makings of a dandy game two.

[Chief Rum]

I'm amazed at how awful Anaheim looks. It's only one game though, but this is pretty remarkable.

You know, I want to say I am, too. But I really am not. We have been extremely inconsistent, and it has been more than the injuries and late veteran additions. This team just hasn't had the same vibe as last year. The power play is extremely inconsistent, and the forecheck hasn't been as strong. We have had issues taking not only bad penalties, but taking tons of them. Pronger has been a bit too "loose" this year, and Niedermayer is still not really close to the top of his game (hasn't been since his return). And we're depending on too many younger players or third line types to support our inconsistent scoring. The only guys who seem to be the exact same as last year are Selanne and Jiggy (and even Jiggy is having an off night tonight).

Really, the whole "feel" of this team has been one of unsteadiness all year. I have never been comfortable with how the team has been playing, from the very first drop of the puck in September, and that continued even during the strong second half play. The feeling last year I had that we can always come back or win that next critical game is just not there this year.

[Suburban Rhythm]

http://bp3.blogger.com/_fw7iF68JR8k/RwyPfQLIrbI/AAAAAAAAG6c/2fNTWZQ2HVE/s320/wwgrd.jpg

[Logan]

Rangers - Devils, no score through 2. There's been pushing and shoving after pretty much every stoppage.

[TazFTW]

Jagr, Avery, you beautiful bastards you.

[TazFTW]

That was a nice play by Ovechkin.

[Logan]

Jagr, Avery, you beautiful bastards you.

Marty sure moved a *lot* on what looked like a very small tap from Colin White. The Ranger fan in me thinks he figured it was a Ranger bumping him so he tried to sell it. Oops.

Also, he was insanely out of position on Avery's shot. While it was perfectly placed in the top corner, half the net was wide open.

[Logan]

2-0 heading back to the Garden. I think I'll take that.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm glad I was out at dinner and missed you-know-what. Ugh.

[MikeVic]

So what are these controversial penalties and non-icing calls in the Devils/Rangers game? And some controversy in the Wild OT winner I think. They only showed the replay once, but it appeared that Rolston lifted his leg to kick in the puck.

[Draft Dodger]

So what are these controversial penalties and non-icing calls in the Devils/Rangers game? And some controversy in the Wild OT winner I think. They only showed the replay once, but it appeared that Rolston lifted his leg to kick in the puck.

he may have tried to kick it, but after seeing a few different angles it looks like the puck missed his foot entirely and went off of Salei's toe instead. Tough break for the Avs - the Wild have 5 goals, and two of them have been fluky deflections off an Avalanche skate in front.

once again, if you aren't watching, you're missing great hockey. This game was tied 1-1 late in the 3rd, but Mikko Koivu (who has KILLED the Avs his whole career) fires a 60' curveball that fools Jose Theodore to make it 2-1. The Avs pull their goalie and shortly thereafter Kim Johnsson hooks Ryan Smyth in front of the net to give the Avs a 6 on 4 PP. The Wild were crazy about the call, but it was a good one - Johnsson definitely hooked him, and Smyth probably would have scored if he hadn't. The Avs convert on the PP with 43 seconds left to send it into OT. where, of course, Keith Carney wins it.

Carney, as you know, is a sniper. He started slowly this year, with just zero goals in his first 60 games. But he scored one against the Avs in the final game of the season and now has 2 goals in his last 3 games, both against Colorado. We're going to need to make note of him every time he steps...er, lumbers on to the ice.

[Pyser]

So what are these controversial penalties and non-icing calls in the Devils/Rangers game? And some controversy in the Wild OT winner I think. They only showed the replay once, but it appeared that Rolston lifted his leg to kick in the puck.

i dont want to talk about it....but for starters, we were on a PK, pulled our goalie, and got a fucking icing call.

not ready to talk about it at all yet, actually.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Penguins have a slight scare. After going up 3-0 and putting it into cruise, Ottawa ties it at 3-3. All 3 Ottawa goals are scored from a combine 6 feet from the crease.

But Marty Lapointe takes a STUPID high sticking penalty with about 1:20 left. Ryan Malone scores on the PP with a minute left, and adds the empty netter, Pens 5-3. If that was Ottawa's big push, this series is over.

Crosby 4 assists, but still relatively invisible. Malkin with 3 assists, Sykora 2 goals, Malone 2 goals (GWG and empty netter).

Randy Robitaille is the Sens leading scoring in the series to this point.

[Pumpy Tudors]

i dont want to talk about it....but for starters, we were on a PK, pulled our goalie, and got a fucking icing call.

not ready to talk about it at all yet, actually.
Wait, are you serious? This happened? Like I mentioned before, I was out and didn't see any of the game. Well, ain't that a shit.

[Honolulu_Blue]

But Marty Lapointe takes a STUPID high sticking penalty with about 1:20 left. Ryan Malone scores on the PP with a minute left, and adds the empty netter, Pens 5-3. If that was Ottawa's big push, this series is over.

Yeah, it was good to see that Martin LaPointe is still Martin LaPointe. He killed the Wings multiple times doing stuff like that at critical junctures.

[Honolulu_Blue]

he may have tried to kick it, but after seeing a few different angles it looks like the puck missed his foot entirely and went off of Salei's toe instead. Tough break for the Avs - the Wild have 5 goals, and two of them have been fluky deflections off an Avalanche skate in front.

once again, if you aren't watching, you're missing great hockey. This game was tied 1-1 late in the 3rd, but Mikko Koivu (who has KILLED the Avs his whole career) fires a 60' curveball that fools Jose Theodore to make it 2-1. The Avs pull their goalie and shortly thereafter Kim Johnsson hooks Ryan Smyth in front of the net to give the Avs a 6 on 4 PP. The Wild were crazy about the call, but it was a good one - Johnsson definitely hooked him, and Smyth probably would have scored if he hadn't. The Avs convert on the PP with 43 seconds left to send it into OT. where, of course, Keith Carney wins it.

Carney, as you know, is a sniper. He started slowly this year, with just zero goals in his first 60 games. But he scored one against the Avs in the final game of the season and now has 2 goals in his last 3 games, both against Colorado. We're going to need to make note of him every time he steps...er, lumbers on to the ice.

I'm with you, DD. This has been a great series. Colorado scares me. They really have a ton of talent up front and they're all healthy now. Theodore has looked solid too.

I still like the Avs in this one. They have a ton more firepower up front and the goaltending matchup has been more or less even to this point

[Suburban Rhythm]

Yeah, it was good to see that Martin LaPointe is still Martin LaPointe. He killed the Wings multiple times doing stuff like that at critical junctures.

It was so terrible the penalty taken-- he was honestly trying to lift Ruutu's stick at center ice, pretty routine play-- but the timing was horrendous. I guess it's easy to say from here, but three other guys back, you let Ruutu dump that puck in. Period.

[Dr. Sak]

Cringe alert...Patrick Thoresen got hit in the GROIN with the puck last night and had to be hospitalized.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Cringe alert...Patrick Thoresen got hit in the GROIN with the puck last night and had to be hospitalized.

Gary Roberts would take a puck to the groin...and score on the deflection.
What a bunch of Cryers.

;)

[Maple Leafs]

Gary Roberts would take a puck to the groin...and score on the deflection.

When Gary Roberts takes a puck to the groin, the puck is hospitalized.

[Dr. Sak]

Well the Pens have to have someone tough like Roberts to counteract the pussy Crosby. It is good to have balance on your team.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Oh I get it...so like Kapanen can skate, to offset Hatcher? Or like Dowd is generally considered an intelligent player to offset Downie? And to offset Biron, they've got....er, um....hmmmm....help me out here. Or do they pair him with "Coach" Stevens, and hope two wrongs make a right?

I actually like Philly in their series if Biron can do anything. Stop Ovechkin, stop the Caps.

[Schmidty]

D MAC IS BACK!!!! Wooo!!!

[Pyser]

crazy game in detroit so far

gotta love playoff hockey

[Logan]

Pumpy, the refs also missed a pretty solid hold by Blair Betts as a Devil tried moving the puck up ice with less than a minute left, I believe.

[Dr. Sak]

Oh I get it...so like Kapanen can skate, to offset Hatcher? Or like Dowd is generally considered an intelligent player to offset Downie? And to offset Biron, they've got....er, um....hmmmm....help me out here. Or do they pair him with "Coach" Stevens, and hope two wrongs make a right?

Hal Gill doesnt have blazing speed either. And just wait till Therien starts messing with the lines again...he's due to change them up.

Honestly...Philly doesn't have the defense to keep up with the Caps. It showed last night and Biron looked shaky. He goes down too quick, has no lateral movement, and just watch the Caps shoot high glove all day.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Nashville outplayed Detroit in the first two periods, but the Wings finally pulled away in the third and pretty much dominated.

Hasek had some great saves. He looked good.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Hal Gill doesnt have blazing speed either. And just wait till Therien starts messing with the lines again...he's due to change them up.


I really think he's past that, Malkin is playing too well for him to tinker with anything.

Also...Hossa, meh. He is not meshing with Crosby at all.

[sterlingice]

The Nashville/Detroit 2nd period was fun but, yeah, the third was kindof boring.

SI

[Dr. Sak]

Also...Hossa, meh. He is not meshing with Crosby at all.

I really agree with that, actually I think Pascal Dupuis is the gem of that trade. Hossa has really been non-existant.

[Pyser]

lets go boston!

[Suburban Rhythm]

I really agree with that, actually I think Pascal Dupuis is the gem of that trade. Hossa has really been non-existant.

Yep...rather they use the $8M it would take to keep Hossa, and put that towards keeping Malone, Dupuis and bringing in a mid-tier guy (ala Sykora). Then wrap up Malkin long term. And Fleury is a RFA. Toss in the $5M off the books with Roberts and Recchi's deals, and Orpik and Eaton becoming UFAs. One of those two could be back, but they'll have a little money to throw around at a d-man.
But retaining Hossa means lots of choices need to be made elsewhere.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Nashville/Detroit 2nd period was fun but, yeah, the third was kindof boring.

SI

If by fun you mean "not fun" and if by boring you mean "relaxing" and "enjoyable", then I totally agree.

[Honolulu_Blue]

As for the two controversial calls in the Wings/Preds series.

I don't have too much of a problem with the Game 1 call where the linesman got hit with the puck and caused it to stay "in" the zone. It was very close, the linesman got hit and couldn't be in a position to make it. I am fine with it.

I do, however, think the Preds were jobbed in Game 2. That first "non goal" was definitely a goal. I didn't hear the whistle before it went in and the net was clearly still on its morings. It was a much easier call than Yelle's similar goal in the Sharks/Flames series, which was considered a goal.

As for Holmstrom's goalie intereference. It was close. Goals have been waived off for less, but he's also scored goals while doing more. It's a total judgment call. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the next "judgment" call went against Detroit.

[sachmo71]

Can't believe the Stars are up 2-0 over the defending champs. The good news is the Stars overcame a Ducks rally to win 5-2 last night. They have been a glass team when losing a lead this year...nice to see them able to withstand the pressure and finish the job.

But in the back of my mind, I know that the Duck now come in and win the next 2, then take one at home, lose back in Dallas, and finally win convincingly on home ice.

At least we will give them a scare, though. :)

[bhlloy]

Can't believe the Stars are up 2-0 over the defending champs. The good news is the Stars overcame a Ducks rally to win 5-2 last night. They have been a glass team when losing a lead this year...nice to see them able to withstand the pressure and finish the job.

But in the back of my mind, I know that the Duck now come in and win the next 2, then take one at home, lose back in Dallas, and finally win convincingly on home ice.

At least we will give them a scare, though. :)

Don't think that is going to happen. The Ducks are cooked, so to speak. If we give up three goals a game, we don't have the offense to win. Maybe a healthy Perry would make a difference, but I doubt it.

I would like to see Hiller get the start in Dallas for game 3, although that might be seen as a complete white flag he's actually got huge potential and Giggy just isn't getting the job done right now. It just might be the thing that changes the series. God knows the veterans are doing a piss poor job...

Unless the Ducks do a complete 180, I'd be amazed to see this series go longer than five, and I'd probably put money on 4-0.

[Maple Leafs]

So if the Ducks get swept, what day would the series end? When do players clean out their lockers, final meetings get held, and executive become available to speak to other teams about new jobs?

You know, just wondering.

[MikeVic]

Is it just me, or does it seem like there's more powerplays this year? Every time I turn it onto hockey in these playoffs, someone is on a powerplay.

[bhlloy]

Is it just me, or does it seem like there's more powerplays this year? Every time I turn it onto hockey in these playoffs, someone is on a powerplay.

That's what the fans want to see, stupid. Next year, midget goalies with no padding, goals twice as big and teams will alternate 5-on-3 powerplays throughout the game. Fans don't want to see a real sport. They just like it when that little red light goes on behind the goal. If that happens seventy bazillion times a game, we will have all the fans in the world in no time.

[Maple Leafs]

That's what the fans want to see, stupid. Next year, midget goalies with no padding, goals twice as big and teams will alternate 5-on-3 powerplays throughout the game. Fans don't want to see a real sport. They just like it when that little red light goes on behind the goal. If that happens seventy bazillion times a game, we will have all the fans in the world in no time.
I don't know, there's still something to be said for the denfensive game, and you have to remember....

Wait, were you being sarcastic?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, I'm all settled in and ready to watch the Devils try to beat the Rangers. I just saw a shot of Martin Brodeur relaxing in the locker room, and I must admit that I was hoping to see a sister-in-law of his giving him a blowjob, but no. I think that's what he needs in order to stay focused these days, and it's not happening.

Oh, well. Maybe the New Jersey offense can make up for it.

Yeah, OK, Devils fans are fucked.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I hate Sean Avery. I mean, if he's on your team, you've gotta love him, but if he's not... damn.

[TazFTW]

In case you couldn't read Rupp's lips, the on ice mics help.

[Pumpy Tudors]

In case you couldn't read Rupp's lips, the on ice mics help.
Hahaha, yes. That was incredible.

[Logan]

I hate Sean Avery. I mean, if he's on your team, you've gotta love him, but if he's not... damn.

I gotta say, I've never seen that faceguarding move Avery pulled off before.

[MikeVic]

I just saw the mention the face taunting thing... if that's allowed, I think everyone should do it.

[TazFTW]

I gotta say, I've never seen that faceguarding move Avery pulled off before.

After seeing that I think the Rangers should pay him whatever he wants.

[Logan]

I just saw the mention the face taunting thing... if that's allowed, I think everyone should do it.

Definitely legal...it's no different than providing a screen by any normal method. Good job by Avery sticking with it despite Brodeur taking multiple shots at his balls.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I don't like New Jersey's chances going into overtime here. It's just because they've had trouble getting shots on goal for much of the night. They're getting the puck into the offensive zone, but they aren't getting to the net. Here's the deal: When the Devils get the puck, I don't expect them to do anything with it. When the Rangers get the puck, I hold my breath and expect the skilled New York players to score. That's not a good position to be in as a Devils fan with overtime coming up.

Here's hoping for a lucky break or something. Maybe Brylin needs to score another goal, or maybe somebody like Rupp or Zajac needs to get involved on the offensive end. Why not? The other Devils sure aren't doing much.

[Sublime 2]

Go B's!

Savard with the OT winner.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Heads-up play by John Madden to win the game for New Jersey. From behind the net, he banks the puck off a Ranger's skate and through Lundqvist's legs. Game over. Whew!

[Logan]

Here's hoping for a lucky break or something.

Psychic Pumpy.

[MikeVic]

Definitely legal...it's no different than providing a screen by any normal method. Good job by Avery sticking with it despite Brodeur taking multiple shots at his balls.

I heard the TSN analysts or whatever talking about it, and they think it'll be visited before the next game.

[TazFTW]

Well I guess I'm done watching the Flames game now.

[Pyser]

every devils goal feels like a miracle, but ill take it

craziness in calgary, yes

[TazFTW]

Great hit.

[Bad-example]

Not sure how that nasty elbow to the side of Marleau's face turned into a Calgary power play, but 3-1 makes this a game again.

[bhlloy]

HOLY CRAP - biggest hit I have seen in a very long time. That reminded me of Wendell Clark's famous hit right there. Interesting to see how the Sharks respond with Shelley on the bench.

As for the Avery thing, it's perfectly legal but I can't believe the Devils just let him stand there for 20 seconds and get away with it. If I was the Devils coach, I would have one of my defensemen drill him in the ear as soon as the puck gets anywhere near the net. Hell, it's one of the few times you will have a clean shot at the little punk.

[Logan]

HOLY CRAP - biggest hit I have seen in a very long time. That reminded me of Wendell Clark's famous hit right there. Interesting to see how the Sharks respond with Shelley on the bench.

As for the Avery thing, it's perfectly legal but I can't believe the Devils just let him stand there for 20 seconds and get away with it. If I was the Devils coach, I would have one of my defensemen drill him in the ear as soon as the puck gets anywhere near the net. Hell, it's one of the few times you will have a clean shot at the little punk.

It was a 5 on 3 at the time, which is (I'm assuming) why he did it...bringing one man exclusively to Avery would've given us an even better shot at a goal. And the puck didn't get anywhere near the net until he scored.

[Fidatelo]

Landed in NYC today, getting psyched about the game on Wednesday. We packed our Jets jerseys so look for us on TV :)

Oh, and I sat beside MikeVic's boss on the plane from Winnipeg to Minneapolis. Nice lady.

[TazFTW]

Cujo wins!

[bhlloy]

Not surprised that the Sharks blew a 3 goal lead when they couldn't even protect their captain. If I was a Sharks fan I would be very worried about the lack of emotion - after the Sarich hit they were very subdued and pretty much laid down and died. You could tell that Calgary was going to get back into it.

Oh, and is there a bigger no effort pussy than Joe Thornton in the whole NHL? You are 6'4 230+, wouldn't hurt you to take some shots in front of the net or go mucking about in the corner for once would it... Pretty plays and big numbers in the regular season are great, nice to see he still has his playoff game going :rolleyes:

[Pyser]

im glad i kept watching that calgary game

that was awesome. highly entertaining all game

[Draft Dodger]

that Sarich hit was the fucking bomb. I kind of had a feeling Calgary would come back in that game.

Interesting that last year's Cup finalists are two of the three teams down 2-0 right now.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Interesting that last year's Cup finalists are two of the three teams down 2-0 right now.

At least per the Pittsburgh papers, Alfredsson wants to come back either tonight for game 3, or for game 4. My guess is more of a spark for his team than anything else. He hasn't practiced yet, i don't even know if he's been riding the bike etc. He hasn't played in 2 weeks now.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The current San Jose collapse shouldn't surprise anyone. It's been the M.O. over the last few years. If they can rally from last night, I think that would be huge for them. It may finally give them the confidence to get over that mental hurdle.

That was a sweet hit.

[MikeVic]

Landed in NYC today, getting psyched about the game on Wednesday. We packed our Jets jerseys so look for us on TV :)

Oh, and I sat beside MikeVic's boss on the plane from Winnipeg to Minneapolis. Nice lady.

Whoa what?

[Ajaxab]

The current San Jose collapse shouldn't surprise anyone. It's been the M.O. over the last few years. If they can rally from last night, I think that would be huge for them. It may finally give them the confidence to get over that mental hurdle.

That was a sweet hit.

I hope Wilson's comments after the game about 'drawing blood should mean some kind of penalty' were merely about defending Marleau because that hit was clean. I can't see how he could ever have a problem with it if one of his players executed a check that solid and caused an opponent to get a nosebleed.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I hope Wilson's comments after the game about 'drawing blood should mean some kind of penalty' were merely about defending Marleau because that hit was clean. I can't see how he could ever have a problem with it if one of his players executed a check that solid and caused an opponent to get a nosebleed.

He made that comment? Wow. That was as clean a hit as there was. Marleau had the puck, his head was done, and Sarich just came in and leveled him. He didn't raise his shoulders, lift an elbow, leave his feet or anything. That's hockey, Mr. Wilson.

Did anyone catch the clip on CBC they showed of Sarich making a similar hit in juniors. That was even better. An open ice hit, very similar, but the other guy was moving forward and did a complete flip, head over heels, in the air before landing on the ice.

[MikeVic]

I was watching TSN or something this morning, and Bettman said that Avery's tactic there would either be called for Unsportsmanlike Conduct, or Interference.

[Logan]

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Did Lord Bettman enlighten anyone on what Brodeur's punch to Avery's face or stick to his balls should have been called?

[Honolulu_Blue]

I was watching TSN or something this morning, and Bettman said that Avery's tactic there would either be called for Unsportsmanlike Conduct, or Interference.

Both Ron McLean and Kelly Hrudey said that the ref should have called an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty. The ref warned Avery, Avery kept it up, and that moment Avery should have been given a 10 minute misconduct. No powerplay, just sit down for 10 minutes. Like they said, what Avery was doing was "dishonorable" and there is no place for it.

That said, I found it very funny. Avery amuses me.

[Honolulu_Blue]

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Did Lord Bettman enlighten anyone on what Brodeur's punch to Avery's face or stick to his balls should have been called?

He had it comin'.

[Pyser]

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Did Lord Bettman enlighten anyone on what Brodeur's punch to Avery's face or stick to his balls should have been called?

shut up

[Maple Leafs]

It must suck to be a Ranger fan and have to twist yourself into a logical pretzel to have to defend this.

[Dr. Sak]

It must suck to be a Ranger fan and have to twist yourself into a logical pretzel to have to defend this.

You of all people should know about this...you've been defending JFJ for years. :)

[Logan]

It must suck to be a Ranger fan and have to twist yourself into a logical pretzel to have to defend this.

Sorry, but not at all. I don't see a difference between what Avery did facing the goalie and what every other guy does with his back to the goalie. So he used his hands to distract Brodeur in addition to his head or body -- big fuckin deal.

[Dr. Sak]

So if Avery stood on the side of the crease...got down on all fours...and barked like a dog to distract the goalie you'd be fine with that? It is well within the rules.

[MikeVic]

It's not very classy. Didn't we have some kind of discussion like this when Sean Taylor spit on a player?

[Draft Dodger]

It's not very classy. Didn't we have some kind of discussion like this when Sean Taylor spit on a player?

and look what happened to him...

[TazFTW]

So if Avery stood on the side of the crease...got down on all fours...and barked like a dog to distract the goalie you'd be fine with that? It is well within the rules.

If Avery lifted his leg and started peeing on Brodeur. I'll be fine with that.

[Subby]

and look what happened to him...
OH REAL NICE DICKSTAND JR

[samifan24]

Does anyone have a video of what Avery did to Brodeur? I'm reading the story on TSN and reading what you guys are saying but I'd like to see it myself.

[Logan]

So if Avery stood on the side of the crease...got down on all fours...and barked like a dog to distract the goalie you'd be fine with that? It is well within the rules.

I wouldn't call a penalty on it, which is what we're discussing.

Is it "classy?" No. Do I give a shit as long as it helps my team win? No. What's funny is when I read other posts (not here) that say (direct quote), "I wish someone would crack him in the skull from behind. He is a coward, and needs to be taken out like one." Yes, that should be the punishment for someone who isn't classy. Todd Bertuzzi agrees.

And for the record, I don't think Brodeur retaliating by forcefully shoving a stick into the genitals of another man is very classy either, and that's not within the rules.

[Logan]

Does anyone have a video of what Avery did to Brodeur? I'm reading the story on TSN and reading what you guys are saying but I'd like to see it myself.

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Note that Brodeur didn't give him an ounce of attention when he camped out in front of the net on the second rush down the ice, maybe because he was expecting him to be an unclassy prick and start screening him again. So he put the puck in the net.

[MikeVic]

and look what happened to him...

Ouch!

[Logan]

It's not very classy. Didn't we have some kind of discussion like this when Sean Taylor spit on a player?

Are you trying to equate this to the reprehensible nature of spitting on another human being?

If Avery spat on Brodeur, he deserves the shot to the balls.

[Dr. Sak]

I wouldn't call a penalty on it, which is what we're discussing.

Is it "classy?" No. Do I give a shit as long as it helps my team win? No. What's funny is when I read other posts (not here) that say (direct quote), "I wish someone would crack him in the skull from behind. He is a coward, and needs to be taken out like one." Yes, that should be the punishment for someone who isn't classy. Todd Bertuzzi agrees.

And for the record, I don't think Brodeur retaliating by forcefully shoving a stick into the genitals of another man is very classy either, and that's not within the rules.

What Avery did was well within the rights of the rules. There is nothing black and white that says what he did was wrong and I understand Logan, why you are defending him. But as a hockey fan, I don't want to see this happening in every game. That's just what it comes down to.

BTW i am surprised Marty didnt get a penalty for his glove to Avery's face.

[Logan]

What you're saying is perfectly fine. My defense is only out there because of the posts above that said Bettman and others claim it is some kind of bullshit "unsportsmanlike" penalty.

[Honolulu_Blue]

NHL Rules.

Rule 41(g) "A misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who persists in any course of conduct (including threatening or abusive language or gestures or similar actions) designed to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty."

I think that rule could cover what Avery was up to with the whole stick and glove to the face. Then again, that rule is very broadly worded. There's probably a dozen things a shift Avery (and others) "persists" on doing "to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty".

[sachmo71]

What Avery did was well within the rights of the rules. There is nothing black and white that says what he did was wrong and I understand Logan, why you are defending him. But as a hockey fan, I don't want to see this happening in every game. That's just what it comes down to.

BTW i am surprised Marty didnt get a penalty for his glove to Avery's face.

Well, it's against the rules now, so you won't see it. Or if you do, it won't last long.

[Logan]

NHL Rules.

Rule 41(g) "A misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who persists in any course of conduct (including threatening or abusive language or gestures or similar actions) designed to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty."

I think that rule could cover what Avery was up to with the whole stick and glove to the face. Then again, that rule is very broadly worded. There's probably a dozen things a shift Avery (and others) "persists" on doing "to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty".

So Avery's intention wasn't to screen Brodeur, but to incite him into taking a penalty? Sorry but no.

[Pumpy Tudors]

In my opinion, Avery doing that stuff one time was funny. It was effective, too. My concern would be if the league shrugged and said "Well, it's not against the rules, so we won't take steps to stop it." What that does is open the door for players all over to stand in front of a goalie and wave their sticks around, which would probably lead to people accidentally taking sticks to the face. I consider Avery lucky that he didn't accidentally hit somebody. It was a smart play at the time, but if you allow him to do it, then you allow everyone to do it, and I think it's a good idea for them to get players to keep their sticks down.

While I can see that you don't want to outlaw a whole bunch of things because someone might get hurt, this is a stick that's up at face level. It's unnecessarily dangerous. With regards to the object of the game (put the puck in the net), there's no reason for it. It's not like you can play the puck with your stick at that level anyway, so the stick shouldn't be there. I like that Avery was not penalized for it at the time, but I can agree that it shouldn't be allowed again.

[Dr. Sak]

New Rule to take effect...

INTERPRETATION OF RULE 75 – UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT


NEW YORK/TORONTO (April 14, 2008) -- National Hockey League Senior
Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell
today issued the following advisory on the interpretation of Rule 75 -
Unsportsmanlike Conduct: "An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule
75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation
when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender
and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the
goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or
distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make
a play."

[Logan]

Ok, if he does this Wednesday night I will now agree that it is not within the rules :).

P.S. I'm shotgunning the use of "Sean Avery" under the "innovator" category of the next FOFC Hockey Draft.

[miked]

Are you trying to equate this to the reprehensible nature of spitting on another human being?

If Avery spat on Brodeur, he deserves the shot to the balls.

They should've given that fag a misconduct penalty for his gay celebration. I don't wish injury upon him, but if Brodeur should happen to think there's a shot, go for a glove or blocker save, and accidentally level Avery, that should be fine. In addition, Avery had his stick up high, his hands in the face of the goaltender.

What a faggoty move.

[Pumpy Tudors]

They should've given that fag a misconduct penalty for his gay celebration. I don't wish injury upon him, but if Brodeur should happen to think there's a shot, go for a glove or blocker save, and accidentally level Avery, that should be fine. In addition, Avery had his stick up high, his hands in the face of the goaltender.

What a faggoty move.
The fuck?

[Dr. Sak]

Hours after Thoresen was told he might require surgery to remove a ruptured testicle, after blocking a slap shot by Capitals defenseman Mike Green, an MRI taken at Washington Hospital Center revealed no rupture. Thoresen was discharged Saturday morning.

When Holmgren told reporters Friday night that Thoresen might face surgery, few expected the 20-year-old winger and father of two to play in the remainder of the playoffs. In fact, many wondered if he would be able to have children again.

Perhaps that's why his teammates were stunned when told there was a possibility of him suiting up again in this series.

"Wow!" Timonen said. "I didn't know that. I'm surprised if he can play. It's good to see he's going to be all right, and hopefully he can keep his testicle."

[samifan24]

Wow that bit with Avery in front of the net like that was ridiculous.

[Young Drachma]

Kudos to the LNH for issuing a swift interpretation. In other sports, we'd be stuck with the silliness until the following season.

[scooter]

I think it's important for the NHL to put an end to Avery's back-to-the-play antics. Had he taken a point shot to the exposed area of the spine and being paralyzed this wouldn't be very funny. What is really sad is all the young players out there that watch that and then go immitate it. Good job Colin Campbell.

[miked]

The fuck?

I always wanted to use the word faggoty, since I had seen it here so many times. If anything called for it, it was the play and the celebration. I just think it's really really really gay. And against the rules.

[Bad-example]

"Wow!" Timonen said. "I didn't know that. I'm surprised if he can play. It's good to see he's going to be all right, and hopefully he can keep his testicle."

Oh, I am sure they will let him keep it in any case.

[Suburban Rhythm]

"Wow!" Timonen said. "I didn't know that. I'm surprised if he can play. It's good to see he's going to be all right, and hopefully he can keep his testicle."

Is there a thread of things you never thought you'd say to a co-worker? Cause this belongs in there.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What I thought was even funnier than Avery's schtick was John Madden's comment about how they're trying to sell the game & Avery is out there doing stuff like that. Newflash for Mr. Madden, Avery was quite likely the most interesting & entertaining single thing that happened in the NHL all weekend. And, given the frequent complaints (although it's never bothered me personally) about the neutral zone trap & the Devils connection to it, I find Madden's concern pretty funny.

[JonInMiddleGA]

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Watching it that way, it might just be one of the most amusing sequences I can recall ever seeing in sports.

AFAIC, Avery was smart enough to figure it out ahead of time & wait for the right time to use it. Brodeur meanwhile needs to have a loooong talk with the candyasses masquerading as a PK unit in front of him. Not one but two guys camped in front of the net long enough to build a campfire (on the first trip down), never mind the antics.

[Draft Dodger]

Kudos to the LNH for issuing a swift interpretation. In other sports, we'd be stuck with the silliness until the following season.

and here I think the NHL looks ridiculous for having to come up with an interpretation like this in the freaking playoffs.

[Logan]

I always wanted to use the word faggoty, since I had seen it here so many times. If anything called for it, it was the play and the celebration. I just think it's really really really gay. And against the rules.

Were you alive to see Theo Fleury celebrate?

[Pyser]

What I thought was even funnier than Avery's schtick was John Madden's comment about how they're trying to sell the game & Avery is out there doing stuff like that. Newflash for Mr. Madden, Avery was quite likely the most interesting & entertaining single thing that happened in the NHL all weekend. And, given the frequent complaints (although it's never bothered me personally) about the neutral zone trap & the Devils connection to it, I find Madden's concern pretty funny.

um, the rangers play the trap too.

and JIMG, as for why the devils didnt knock avery out of the crease, they were killing a 5-3. not a 5 on 4. big, big difference.

[Maple Leafs]

Just to be clear, the NHL didn't change the rule or create a new one. They clarified the existing rule.

Basically they had to say "This was always a penalty, but since it never occured to us that anybody could be this much of a dink, the referee didn't know whether the rule actually applied. So we're making sure everyone knows that it does."

[JonInMiddleGA]

um, the rangers play the trap too.

Even if every team in the league plays it, considering the knock it gets, for someone playing for the original/prime offender to say "Here we are trying to sell the game, and stuff like that is going on,, it's just laughable to me. Granted, I would find that to be pretty comical regardless of what team the speaker played for, it just added another level to the comedy.
(again, FTR, the trap never bothered me particularly but I sure seem to be the minority about that)

and JIMG, as for why the devils didnt knock avery out of the crease, they were killing a 5-3. not a 5 on 4. big, big difference.

Watch the replay again. At about the :10 mark of the video, two guys are camped without so much as a glance in their direction. 5-3 or not, that sure seems problematic.

[MikeVic]

Larry Murphy just laid out Bonk!

[Maple Leafs]

My favorite part of the clip is the color guy on the VS broadcast at about the 0:35 mark. He doesn't get all outraged. He actually sounds kind of depressed, like he's watching something that just makes him sad.

[Suburban Rhythm]

AFAIC, Avery was smart enough to figure it out ahead of time & wait for the right time to use it.

Or, he acts like that normally, but it was caught on camera this time.