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Mizzou B-ball fan
04-21-2008, 11:29 AM
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008/apr/20/cus-420-pot-smoke-out-draws-10000/

CU’s 4/20 pot smoke-out draws crowd of 10,000
Police issue zero tickets during annual marijuana celebration
By Vanessa Miller (Contact)
Sunday, April 20, 2008

A crowd of about 10,000 people collectively began counting down on the University of Colorado's Norlin Quadrangle just before 4:20 p.m. Sunday.

Yet the massive puff of pot smoke that hovers over CU's Boulder campus every April 20 -- the date of an annual, internationally recognized celebration of marijuana -- began rising over the sea of heads earlier than normal this year.

"Oh forget it," one student said, aborting the countdown to 4:20 p.m. and lighting his pipe early. He closed his eyes, taking a deep, long drag.

"Sweet."

Although it's become an annual and renowned event at CU, this year's 4/20 celebration was different in some ways than in many previous years: The crowd was so large it migrated from the long-traditional site of Farrand Field to the larger Norlin Quad; festivities kicked off earlier than normal with daytime concerts; and CU police handed out zero citations.

“At this point, none are anticipated,” said CU police Cmdr. Brad Wiesley.

Officers in the past have gone to great lengths to catch people in the illegal act of smoking pot on 4/20.

In 2006, CU police dispatched undercover photographers to snap pictures of smokers. Photos of 150 alleged offenders then were posted on the department’s Web site, and witnesses were offered $50 to positively identify the suspects — who then were ticketed. Another year, smokers on Farrand were doused with sprinklers.

“We can’t do the same thing year after year,” Wiesley said hours before Sunday’s smoking began. “So I doubt we’ll do anything like the pictures. ... There’s no way our 12 to 15 officers are going to be able to deal with a crowd of 10,000. We just can’t do strong enforcement when we’re outnumbered 700 or 800 to one.”

About 15 CU officers and a half-dozen deputies with the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office had a presence Sunday among the mass of pot smokers, who bounced giant balls and tossed Frisbees through the haze. CU police did handle four medical-related calls for health issues including dehydration; two people were taken to Boulder Community Hospital.

Closer to downtown, a more “adult” 4/20 gathering also took place at Boulder’s Central Park for non-students looking to avoid the CU foot traffic. But that event had a much smaller turnout and was mostly uneventful.

The crowd size at last year’s CU gathering was rumored to have topped 5,000, Wiesley said, meaning this year’s gathering drew about double.

“I guess it’s not like they had to cut a 4 p.m. class to go do it,” Wiesley said, speculating as to why so many more people showed up. “People are not all that busy at 4:20 p.m. in the afternoon on a Sunday.”

From the steps of Norlin Library, some of the thousands present said the turnout appeared comparable to that of a peace march or protest.

“You guys need to go stand on those stairs,” one girl shouted to her friends, who were seated in a circle on the quadrangle grass. “You don’t even understand.”

Smoke-out participants — thousands of whom wore green or T-shirts promoting pot — climbed trees, played the bongos, snapped pictures and had miniature picnics.

That, of course, after they sparked the weed they had come to smoke.

CU freshman Emily Benson, 19, of Kansas City, said she thinks the decriminalization of marijuana will become a hot topic in the upcoming political season and said she felt part of something bigger than just a smoke-out on Sunday.

“We’re at the starting point of a movement,” she said. “This is a big part of the reason I applied here — for the weed atmosphere.”

Although CU junior Max Lichtenstein, 21, isn’t into marijuana or smoking, he also felt Sunday’s event was a chance to do something “bigger” than himself. He passed out 126 Rice Krispies treats with messages attached asking that they act out against the injustices in Darfur.

“Tomorrow, when you’re sober ... call the White House at 202-456-1414,” the note read.

“I just like being generous and doing nice things,” he said. “I’m like a good Samaritan.”

CU senior Tyler Molvig, 24, said that rather than condemning the smoke-out, CU and the city should embrace it as a money-making opportunity.

“I mean, it’s gonna happen regardless,” he said.

Entrepreneur Barrett Betz, 20, conceived of the potential financial benefit 4/20 holds earlier this year, and sold peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, Hostess snack cakes and bottled water for a $1.

“Peanut butter and jelly!” he screamed to passers-by who were parched and eager to satisfy their munchies. “I’m doing very well.”

One woman was hopeful Betz’s treats were charged with some special ingredients.

“Are these magical?” she asked, only to be disappointed. “Why aren’t you selling magical ones? I mean, it’s cool — but c’mon.”


Baked quotes

Here are some comments overheard during the University of Colorado's massive 4/20 smoke-out Sunday:

"People are getting out their best pot and hippie clothes today." -- CU freshman Emily Benson, 19

"I'm not smoking this year. My boss told me not to come back stoned." -- An employee for Bova's Pantry and Ice Cream, who didn't want to be named, but said he took his hour break to join the celebration

"This is impressive. I'm a little intimidated." -- Ricardo Franklin, 19, a freshman at Colorado State University who came to Boulder for the day

"I need to go higher." -- A student who was climbing a tree while smoking a joint

"It's 4:33. It took me 13 minutes to get rid of them. Wow." -- CU junior Max Lichtenstein, 21, said about the 126 Rice Krispies Treats he passed out at Sunday's event

"Go to the sidewalk. The left one. That one. Not that left. Go right." -- A woman on her cell phone trying to meet a friend in a crowd of thousands

"Peanut butter and jelly! Help pay for my breathalyzer tests!" -- CU sophomore Barrett Betz, 20, who couldn't smoke pot at this year's 4/20 event because of previous legal trouble and instead decided to sell snacks

"You can call him, but he's probably really high and won't be able to find his phone." -- One man said to his friend while leaving the Norlin Quadrangle.

Lathum
04-21-2008, 11:42 AM
I'm not quiet sure what to make of this.

Coffee Warlord
04-21-2008, 11:46 AM
Ahhhh my alma mater.

Mizzou B-ball fan
04-21-2008, 11:46 AM
I'm not quiet sure what to make of this.

I think Emily Benson of Kansas City put it so well when she said.....

“We’re at the starting point of a movement,” she said. “This is a big part of the reason I applied (to CU)— for the weed atmosphere.”

We can only hope that the rest of our college students base their college choice on some firm standards.

rkmsuf
04-21-2008, 12:05 PM
what the hell is a "weed atmosphere"?

Dr. Sak
04-21-2008, 12:07 PM
CU students are just trying to keep up with the bad behavior of the Missouri football team.

ISiddiqui
04-21-2008, 12:14 PM
Good job, CU.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 12:14 PM
Y'know, they almost certainly don't realize it, but each of those in attendance should really take a moment to be thankful that I simply don't have the resources available to take appropriate action to deal with this situation.

Subby
04-21-2008, 12:22 PM
This just in - college kids are naive and stupid and self-centered and blah...blan...blah.

Izulde
04-21-2008, 12:36 PM
This is fantastic.

cuervo72
04-21-2008, 12:40 PM
“We can’t do the same thing year after year,” Wiesley said hours before Sunday’s smoking began. “So I doubt we’ll do anything like the pictures. ... There’s no way our 12 to 15 officers are going to be able to deal with a crowd of 10,000. We just can’t do strong enforcement when we’re outnumbered 700 or 800 to one.”

Answer: 100,000 bees.

rkmsuf
04-21-2008, 12:43 PM
Mr. Hand could take care of them all.

Mizzou B-ball fan
04-21-2008, 12:56 PM
Answer: 100,000 bees.

I'm guessing these idiots would likely put on bumblebee costumes, flap their arms and follow the swarm.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 12:59 PM
I'm guessing these idiots would likely put on bumblebee costumes, flap their arms and follow the swarm.

Might not be a bad thing. Surely there are some cliffs in the area somewhere.

rkmsuf
04-21-2008, 01:03 PM
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lungs
04-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Y'know, they almost certainly don't realize it, but each of those in attendance should really take a moment to be thankful that I simply don't have the resources available to take appropriate action to deal with this situation.No need to be thankful because a nut like you will never have the power or resources to do what you deem appropriate.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 01:53 PM
No need to be thankful because a nut like you will never have the power or resources to do what you deem appropriate.

Happily, neither will the vast majority of the common criminals that gathered in Boulder.

ISiddiqui
04-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Happily, neither will the vast majority of the common criminals that gathered in Boulder.

You sure about that? Considering that all of the major candidates running for President have done drug use in the past (has Hillary admited to it, I'm not sure). The current President mostly likely has done it during his wild and crazy days, and the President before him did it as well.

Mizzou B-ball fan
04-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Happily, neither will the vast majority of the common criminals that gathered in Boulder.

Dear Jon,

I respectfully disagree.

Sincerely,
Bill Clinton

lungs
04-21-2008, 02:03 PM
Happily, neither will the vast majority of the common criminals that gathered in Boulder.Hah. I didn't think you were that delusional.

Cringer
04-21-2008, 02:04 PM
Legalize it. I have never had a problem with it. Hell, it has been 12-13 years since I have done it but now that I am no longer tested I want to smoke a little sometime.

I do admit it is a great thing to threaten a kid with though. My neighbor kid pissed me off a couple of years ago sitting in his driveway with a couple friends playing music a little too loud for me at about 1:30 AM. I walked over there, reached into the car and grabbed the one kid by the neck and told them to turn the f'n music down. When they told me to calm down I said they should feel lucky I didn't bring a 2x4 and bust something on their car, or call the cops about the weed I knew they were smoking. Never had a problem again. In fact they stopped being outside after 9 PM pretty much.

rkmsuf
04-21-2008, 02:05 PM
Legalize it. I have never had a problem with it. Hell, it has been 12-13 years since I have done it but now that I am no longer tested I want to smoke a little sometime.

I do admit it is a great thing to threaten a kid with though. My neighbor kid pissed me off a couple of years ago sitting in his driveway with a couple friends playing music a little too loud for me at about 1:30 AM. I walked over there, reached into the car and grabbed the one kid by the neck and told them to turn the f'n music down. When they told me to calm down I said they should feel lucky I didn't bring a 2x4 and bust something on their car, or call the cops about the weed I knew they were smoking. Never had a problem again. In fact they stopped being outside after 9 PM pretty much.

my threat of getting the mattress police doesn't work quite as well

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 02:09 PM
Hah. I didn't think you were that delusional.

On the other hand, I found your response to be pretty predictable.

MizzouRah
04-21-2008, 02:22 PM
I think it's great.

NoMyths
04-21-2008, 02:31 PM
Y'know, they almost certainly don't realize it, but each of those in attendance should really take a moment to be thankful that I simply don't have the resources available to take appropriate action to deal with this situation.

What actions would you take if you had the resources available?

Subby
04-21-2008, 02:37 PM
What actions would you take if you had the resources available?
I am guessing nuclear device.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 02:38 PM
What actions would you take if you had the resources available?

It depends ... mostly on whether I interested in reusing the real estate afterwards.

I am guessing nuclear device.

There would be worse guesses, but there are some practical considerations that I'm willing to concede (see above)

Eaglesfan27
04-21-2008, 02:41 PM
Killing someone for smoking pot. That seems like a measured response.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 02:46 PM
Killing someone for smoking pot. That seems like a measured response.

You're not new here, so I have to think you've run across my feelings about this previously.

And taking out 10,000 criminals in one stroke, well, that's just not an opportunity you get everyday.

Lathum
04-21-2008, 02:50 PM
You're not new here, so I have to think you've run across my feelings about this previously.

And taking out 10,000 criminals in one stroke, well, that's just not an opportunity you get everyday.

lol.

So if I see you roll through a stop sign is it ok for me to pull up next to you and blow your head off?

Assuming the gun was registered , of course.

cuervo72
04-21-2008, 02:51 PM
After that, Jon is going to look into the feasibility of carpet bombing I-95.

Malificent
04-21-2008, 02:54 PM
You're not new here, so I have to think you've run across my feelings about this previously.

And taking out 10,000 criminals in one stroke, well, that's just not an opportunity you get everyday.

{Geek}Lawful evil, ftw.{/Geek}

Tigercat
04-21-2008, 02:59 PM
Visit your local interstate, you'll find lots of "criminals" there. And plus, you will probably already behind the wheel of a device that can be used to help eliminate them!

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 02:59 PM
{Geek}Lawful evil, ftw.{/Geek}

Heh.

NoMyths
04-21-2008, 03:39 PM
It depends ... mostly on whether I interested in reusing the real estate afterwards.



There would be worse guesses, but there are some practical considerations that I'm willing to concede (see above)

So just so that I can get this straight: you are saying that if you had the resources available you would kill the 10,000 plus people that attended this event? And that such a response is appropriate?

A-Husker-4-Life
04-21-2008, 03:58 PM
I just think it's funny, they are probably hurting their cause more than helping it.

lungs
04-21-2008, 03:58 PM
On the other hand, I found your response to be pretty predictable.Did my name give it away?

I guess what we can agree on is that we wouldn't have any qualms with the other being taken to the wall and shot. Unless you have a more painful punishment for my views.

As for the actual topic, I'm a smoker but I think this 4/20 holiday is silly. I thought it was pretty cool in high school, hell we used to roll 15 gram joints for the occasion. But now, I guess I'm not much for holidays of any kind. Yeah, I smoked yesterday, but not because it was 4/20.

I also don't think the people that think they are furthering the cause of marijuana decriminalization are actually helping the cause. I think some of the quotes in the article prove that point quite well.

Coffee Warlord
04-21-2008, 04:01 PM
So just so that I can get this straight: you are saying that if you had the resources available you would kill the 10,000 plus people that attended this event? And that such a response is appropriate?

It's so not worth it, buddy.

cuervo72
04-21-2008, 04:02 PM
So just so that I can get this straight: you are saying that if you had the resources available you would kill the 10,000 plus people that attended this event? And that such a response is appropriate?

There was a thread on a comic book forum that dealt with "was character X ever a hooker", and one poster gave the opinion that "all hookers are criminals and deserve to die" (meaning real life hookers). So, these opinions seem to be out there.

edit: this was the same poster that stated "Only certain people will get cancer, and I'm not one of them."...because you know, only the sinful ones do

cuervo72
04-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Dola - ok, maybe I got the deserve to die part wrong, looks like the actual quote was "Committing a crime makes someone inhuman whether a jury agrees or not."

JeeberD
04-21-2008, 04:18 PM
I don't know what this surprises anyone...it's Boulder, for god's sake.

Lathum
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
I don't know what this surprises anyone...it's JIMG, for god's sake.

fixed :D

Pyser
04-21-2008, 04:41 PM
outlaw liquor.

legalize weed.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 04:42 PM
So just so that I can get this straight: you are saying that if you had the resources available you would kill the 10,000 plus people that attended this event?

Let's first clarify the word "resources" at least a little bit. That doesn't just cover the technical/mechanical means, it also covers having the authority to utilize those means. Basically, it's an "If I were king ..." thing. Or at least possession something like the domestic equivalent of a letter of marque.

But with that caveat, the answer to your question is absolutely, without even so much as a flicker of hesitation (beyond assessing the most effective means, which I think we can safely assume is something that I'd have worked out well in advance).

Izulde
04-21-2008, 05:08 PM
outlaw liquor.

legalize weed.

It'd make a lot more sense than the current situation.

cuervo72
04-21-2008, 05:36 PM
Jon, there may be an opening in N Korea in a couple of years - might be good to get your resume seen now to establish some name recognition.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 05:38 PM
cuervo - I was thinking Singapore actually.

cuervo72
04-21-2008, 05:43 PM
Ohh, Singapore could work - better economy too. And very clean.

Big Fo
04-21-2008, 06:09 PM
4-20 is cool and all but some of these quotes are embarrassing :D

I'd love to watch the one girl's parents read the quote about choosing CU for "weed culture."

thesloppy
04-21-2008, 06:29 PM
cuervo - I was thinking Singapore actually.

Of course, you'd have to quit smoking first. That is irony, ladies and gentlemen.

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 06:47 PM
Of course, you'd have to quit smoking first.

Not if I was running the place ;)

BishopMVP
04-22-2008, 03:49 AM
Wow, I actually played youth hockey with one of the kids quoted (Tyler Molvig). Not surprised he's evidently in his 6th year of college.

Mizzou B-ball fan
04-22-2008, 07:16 AM
I must say I'm amused that a poster called 'lungs' fully admits to intentionally killing his namesake organs on a regular basis. :)

lungs
04-22-2008, 08:25 AM
I must say I'm amused that a poster called 'lungs' fully admits to intentionally killing his namesake organs on a regular basis. :)
Well, I've cut back on my cigarettes to about one pack a week. I might be mistaken, but doesn't some of the recent studies show that marijuana smoke isn't as harmful as previously thought? Either way, I know I'm not doing my lungs any favours :)

But the nickname is derived from my ability to take large hits of marijuana back in high school :) I think I was still in high school when I created this handle.

Mizzou B-ball fan
04-22-2008, 08:37 AM
But the nickname is derived from my ability to take large hits of marijuana back in high school :) I think I was still in high school when I created this handle.

Have you ever met Emily Benson from Kansas City?

lungs
04-22-2008, 09:12 AM
Have you ever met Emily Benson from Kansas City?I hosed her in the grade 10.