Quotes that make you go hmmmm.

[Edward64]

When reading news articles and letters to the editor (more so in local print newspapers than on the internet), I am surprised, amused, angered and sometimes pause to reflect what I just read.

Thought it may be fun to start a thread on these quotes. Here's my first contribution.

In todays AJC, there was an article on a HS Girl and her not passing the CRCT.

Quote #1: HS Girl, who had been slated to graduate with honors after making all A's as a senior, has unsuccessfully taken the test five times, missing a passing score by one point once.

"It's just not fair," HS Girl said. "I came within one point and I tried so hard. I don't deserve this. I never skipped anything and never got into any trouble. It makes me look like an idiot".

She is going for her 6th try this July.

[Axxon]

When reading news articles and letters to the editor (more so in local print newspapers than on the internet), I am surprised, amused, angered and sometimes pause to reflect what I just read.

Thought it may be fun to start a thread on these quotes. Here's my first contribution.

In todays AJC, there was an article on a HS Girl and her not passing the CRCT.



She is going for her 6th try this July.

What would truly be classic if it's the same question she missed every time.

[Maple Leafs]

What would truly be classic if it's the same question she missed every time.
I hear the question is "Does 'trying so hard' count for anything in real world?"

[Surtt]

In a strange way, I think she has a point.
If I was an honer student, I would feel I learned what is expected of me.

[Axxon]

In a strange way, I think she has a point.
If I was an honer student, I would feel I learned what is expected of me.

So sleeping with your teacher should mean you deserve to automatically pass an exam? ;)

Seriously, I'm not saying she did but still, if you can't pass this test I have to raise my eyebrows about any honors you earn.

The CRCT is designed to measure how well students acquire the skills and knowledge described in the Georgia Performance Standards (GPS) and the Quality Core Curriculum (QCC). The assessments yield information on academic achievement at the student, class, school, system, and state levels. This information is used to diagnose individual student strengths and weaknesses as related to the instruction of the GPS/QCC, and to gauge the quality of education throughout Georgia.

Clearly, the quality of education she was given credit for doesn't mean what she thinks it means. Pissed yeah, but not at the test necessarily but at the school system.

[Surtt]

Clearly, the quality of education she was given credit for doesn't mean what she thinks it means. Pissed yeah, but not at the test necessarily but at the school system.


I agree.
But I think she has a right to feel let down by the system.
They were the ones giving her "A"s she didn't deserve.

[dbd1963]

I agree.
But I think she has a right to feel let down by the system.
They were the ones giving her "A"s she didn't deserve.


Or they weren't teaching her what she needed to know.

[Axxon]

I agree.
But I think she has a right to feel let down by the system.
They were the ones giving her "A"s she didn't deserve.

Yeah, but she really is an idiot if it took her this many tries and she still doesn't have a clue where things are breaking down. If she still trusts her school system and doesn't stretch her boundaries ( either tutors or self education at this point )she doesn't care that much. If she was intelligent ( which she has to kinda be ) then she should realize this and do something about it for fuck sake.

[Axxon]

Or they weren't teaching her what she needed to know.

Ok, this is interesting. From the same link.

When was the CRCT implemented?

The CRCT was implemented in spring 2000. That year, summative, end-of-year assessments in reading, English/language arts, and mathematics were administered in grades four, six, and eight. Assessments in science and social studies (grades three through eight) were administered for the first time in spring 2002. Additionally, assessments in reading, English/language arts, and mathematics were administered in grades one, two, three, five, and seven in spring 2002.

She's graduating from high school with honors and can't pass a test for 8th graders. That's seriously f'ed up.


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[Edward64]

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/06/07/brown.html?cxntlid=inform_artr

My fault, I don't think it was the CRCT. It was for

But that's the position the former Newnan High School honor student faces after failing to meet the minimum score required to pass the science portion of the Georgia High School Graduation Tests.

Georgia law says students must reach a minimum score of 500 on the science portion to graduate from state high schools. The test is scored from 400 to 600, with 600 being a perfect score.

Brown, who had been slated to graduate with honors after making all A's as a senior, has unsuccessfully taken the test five times, missing a passing score by one point once.
My 3rd grade son had to take the CRCT (to progress to 4th grade) and I mixed the two.

[Edward64]

Yeah, but she really is an idiot if it took her this many tries and she still doesn't have a clue where things are breaking down. If she still trusts her school system and doesn't stretch her boundaries ( either tutors or self education at this point )she doesn't care that much. If she was intelligent ( which she has to kinda be ) then she should realize this and do something about it for fuck sake.
I wouldn't have quite put it this way but that was my hmmmmm.

Okay, 1st couple times it may be explainable due to bad day, bad teaching etc.

After the 3rd or 4th, I think she should just have come to the conclusion that regardless of why, she needs to put in the effort (via tutoring, self study etc) to get it done.

I am guessing very little studying went on between the tests.

[st.cronin]

I am guessing very little studying went on between the tests.

Wow, I really doubt that. There are many reasons other than lack of effort why somebody might do badly on a particular test.

[Axxon]

Wow, I really doubt that. There are many reasons other than lack of effort why somebody might do badly on a particular test.

I'm a bad person to reply to this because passing tests is my stupid human trick. I really sympathize with people who can't. I've watched people far more knowledgeable than me crash and burn on things I skated on. One of the hardest part for most people with test taking is fear and working under pressure. If you don't have to deal with that it's so much easier.

So, I agree with you on this but if I was one of those people I'd do all the things I suggested and surely I'd expect at least a one question improvement.

[Axxon]

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/06/07/brown.html?cxntlid=inform_artr

My fault, I don't think it was the CRCT. It was for


My 3rd grade son had to take the CRCT (to progress to 4th grade) and I mixed the two.

That does make a HUGE difference. :D

[Edward64]

Wow, I really doubt that. There are many reasons other than lack of effort why somebody might do badly on a particular test.
5 times? I am willing to bet there are exceptions, but am struggling to find the 'reasons' for failing 5 times.

[Surtt]

5 times? I am willing to bet there are exceptions, but am struggling to find the 'reasons' for failing 5 times.

She probably was a nervous wreck after failing a couple of times.

[Edward64]

From the Sunday AJC, Emmett D Carson remarks at his alma mater Morehouse College. I was not able to find the article on the ajc.com website to link to but the following quote is from the Issue section of print newspaper.

Quote #2: Regardless of the outcome in November, one unanticipated outcome of Sen. Obama's achievement is that it undoubtedly will be seen as the turning point when white America's sense of obligation to African-Americans ended. It will be remembered as the time when white America absolved itself of having any further emotional guilt or financial responsibility for either the sins of the past or the need for any further race-specific reparations.

The promissory note that Dr. King once argued was due to African-Americans and stamped "insufficient funds" now will be viewed by the American people as cashed and paid in full.

After all, it will be difficult for white Americans and others to continue to see African-Americans as deserving of special treatment stemming from historical claims when a black man may become leader of the free world.

Another one of those that made me think. I did not previously make the connection of Obama's success vs "obligation" to African Americans. Although Carson goes a little too far, I do see where many non African Americans (white, asian, hispanic) may well think this.

[sterlingice]

I'm a bad person to reply to this because passing tests is my stupid human trick.

I love this phrasing :)

SI

[Axxon]

I love this phrasing :)

SI

Thanks. I actually do think of it that way too and the confidence that has given me makes me loves taking me some tests. :)

Got a hundred on my college entrance exam; no one had done that yet at that school.

Recently had a test throw me for a loop though. I was applying to do Dell tech support and the test was 78 questions. Thankfully multiple choice.

The test was absurd. Questions about windows 95 faxmodem drivers. Number of pin slots on com ports. 286 bios questions. Very, very obscure questions about old technology.

I figured I'd blown it for sure. Walked with the HR lady and she says "I have your test results here. You got a 34..... and that's passing." 34 our of 78 it turns out so 50% which was way more than what I figured I'd gotten.

Then she tells me that the training class they had advertised for was cancelled and they weren't going to have one until July at earliest so that sucked but my stupid human trick is still going strong. :)

[MJ4H]

technology.

You got a 34..... and that's passing." 34 our of 78 it turns out so 50%

math test
[ ] pass
[x] fail

:D

[sterlingice]

math test
[ ] pass
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:D

(As MizzouRah pointed out in the migration thread, I need to start using this)

"I'm SI and I approve of this message :thumbsup:"

SI

[Axxon]

math test
[ ] pass
[x] fail

:D

Dude, no fair, the question wasn't multiple choice. :D

Ok, still 34 was passing.

I'll go now.