NHL draft Day(s) thread

[bbor]

Post trades and picks as you hear them.

Leafs trade a 3rd rounder for Jamal Meyers.

Let's rebuild with 33 year old checkers...Yeah Cliffy,stay the course.

[Pyser]

i guy cam janssen was untouchable

[MikeVic]

haha nice trade Leafs.

[duff88]

Best NHL day of the year! :popcorn:

[Pyser]

the excitement in this thread is palpable. i can barely keep up.

[Honolulu_Blue]

the excitement in this thread is palpable. i can barely keep up.

The draft doesn't start for another 4 and a half hours.

Deal.

[Dr. Sak]

Drink one every time Pierre McGuire says something stupid. I bet you pass out by the 3rd pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Take one drink every time some GM or scout at the podium thanks Ottawa for hosting, and congratulates the Wings for winning the Cup.

It will be an early night for you.

[Logan]

Take one drink every time you hear "or-gan-EYE-za-tion."

[Dr. Sak]

Or Aboot

[samifan24]

Doesn't it seem kind of odd that the NHL Draft is scheduled at 7 PM on a Friday night?

[Greyroofoo]

eh?

[Dr. Sak]

Doesn't it seem kind of odd that the NHL Draft is scheduled at 7 PM on a Friday night?

Reread your question...remember who the commissioner is...the answer should come to you.

[DeToxRox]

If Goodell got his way, the NFL Draft first round will be on a Friday night.

[Maple Leafs]

This might get interesting:

Habs get permission to talk to Sundin's agent (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241233&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main)

[Maple Leafs]

CKAC Montreal radio reporting Habs have traded 1st round pick.

No word on where, but you can guess what the speculation is.

[DeToxRox]

Oh man. Drama. I love it.

[bbor]

Why would the Habs give up a 1st rounder for a UFA?

Or am i missing something?

[Travis]

Why would the Habs give up a 1st rounder for a UFA?

Or am i missing something?

Trading for his rights so they can sign him prior to him becoming a UFA on July 1st.

Edit to add: Would seem like an overpayment if this is the case, but I have full faith the Leafs will in turn trade that pick for the rights to Jiri Dopita or something along those lines.

[bbor]

Hrm..can't see a 1st being involved.I would say a 3rd at best.

[Dr. Sak]

Toronto to take Montreal's 25th and their 7th to get Pick # 3

[Maple Leafs]

Why would the Habs give up a 1st rounder for a UFA?
Definitely seems like a high price, even if Mats is signed and sealed.

If Fletcher can get a first for Mats right now, he's a genius.

[RomaGoth]

Blockbuster Norris Division deal:

Blues acquire Chris Mason from Predators for a 4th round pick. :rolleyes:

I am also curious as to why ESPN has a love affair with Mats Sundin? For a guy who has never won anything he sure gets a lot of love from that network. :confused:

[Tekneek]

I thought this was going to be streaming from nhl.com. Is that not the case?

[Tekneek]

Audio only from nhl.com and tsn.ca's video feed is for Canada only.

[Tekneek]

Doh... video at nhl.com

[Arctic Blast]

Good lord! Evgeni Malkin offered 12.5 million A YEAR to play in the Russian Superleague. :eek:

[Coder]

Tanguay to Montreal for the 25th? No confirmation yet according to TSN.ca though

[Arctic Blast]

To Calgary : Mike Cammellerri
To Anaheim : 17th and 28th picks
To LA : 12th pick

Also,

Tanguay for 25th is official.

[MrBug708]

Kings pick up the #12 pick for Mike Cammalari

[Arctic Blast]

To Phoenix - Olli Jokinen
To Florida - Keith Ballard and Nick Boynton.

This would seem to indicated Bouwmeester could be moved, with 2 D-men coming back.

[Pyser]

this is exactly why the kings are fucking trash.

if you believe the rumor, they could have had malkin for cammellerri and the #2. instead they trade a guy 1 year past an 80 point season on a crap team for a prospect.

[Logan]

Off the top of my head, I can't think too far back...but just from TSN's flash of past #1 picks, the NHL might have the best track record when it comes to top overall picks turning into superstars.

[Arctic Blast]

Dude, they were never getting Malkin...that rumor was insane. Keep in mind, they have 2 high picks now, so they could make a move for a player.

They've got some good, young talent...they DESPERATELY need a goaltender.

[Pyser]

jokinen cannot be happy finally getting away from a team who never makes the playoffs....and ending up in phoenix.

[Pyser]

Dude, they were never getting Malkin...that rumor was insane. Keep in mind, they have 2 high picks now, so they could make a move for a player.

They've got some good, young talent...they DESPERATELY need a goaltender.

wasnt cammellerri part of that good young talent?

[Arctic Blast]

Off the top of my head, I can't think too far back...but just from TSN's flash of past #1 picks, the NHL might have the best track record when it comes to top overall picks turning into superstars.

Hmmm...you'd probably have to go back to Daigle and Berard.

Wow...LA update, they have 10 PICKS in the first 4 rounds...in a deep draft, that's FANTASTIC for a rebuilding team. And I still think they'll swing some of them for a player or two.

[Arctic Blast]

wasnt cammellerri part of that good young talent?

Keep in mind, he's a UFA after this year. If he bounces back, and has a boom season like he had a couple years ago, he's going to be in line for BIG dollars, probably more than he's worth.

[MrBug708]

this is exactly why the kings are fucking trash.

if you believe the rumor, they could have had malkin for cammellerri and the #2. instead they trade a guy 1 year past an 80 point season on a crap team for a prospect.

I dont think they want to commit the money for Malkin right now. They know they are going to be bad for a while.

[Pyser]

jesus. if you dont want to pay a 20 year old who came in 2nd in league scoring, who do you pay???

[Logan]

Hmmm...you'd probably have to go back to Daigle and Berard.

Daigle was the first guy I thought of (1993?). That's pretty impressive if you have to go back 15 years to find a bust.

But Berard was, at worst, a top 4 d-man before his injury, no? Maybe not a stud but if that's how we're defining a bust, again, the NHL is looking pretty good.

edit: Stefan in 1999 is probably the worst since Daigle.

[Arctic Blast]

Daigle was the first guy I thought of (1993?). That's pretty impressive if you have to go back 15 years to find a bust.

But Berard was, at worst, a top 4 d-man before his injury, no? Maybe not a stud but if that's how we're defining a bust, again, the NHL is looking pretty good.

edit: Stefan in 1999 is probably the worst since Daigle.

Geez, I forgot all about Patrick Stefan...not that it was hard to forget him. :D

Pyser : Again, I don't think the Malkin trade was a real possibility (just like I suspect his agent publicized the Russian league offer to point out to the Pens that they better pay up). And it doesn't make sense for LA to pony up massive dollars for one guy...they're still building. And Malkin wouldn't help their awful goaltending situation, anyway.

[Maple Leafs]

That seems low for Jokinnen, doesn't it?

Cammeleri too.

[Pyser]

arctic, complain about the kings goalie situation all you want. everyone here does.

doesnt mean its been fixed in 10 years of complaining, though.

[Pyser]

To Calgary : Mike Cammellerri
To Anaheim : 17th and 28th picks
To LA : 12th pick

Also,

Tanguay for 25th is official.

The Flames also sent forward Alex Tanguay and their 5th round pick this season to the Montreal Canadiens for 25th overall pick and their 2nd round pick next season.

[Arctic Blast]

Maple Leafs : Florida also got a 2nd rounder in that deal. Maybe a bit of a surprise, yeah, but Ballard is a pretty nice player. Boynton's a spare part, though, at least I think so.

Pyser : Yeah, it has been awhile, hasn't it? Is Bernier looking like he could be the real deal?

And, finally, my God...let's have the NHL go the NFL route, and the commissioner just makes the pick and trade announcement, rather than these neverending blathering speeches from team reps! :banghead:

[Travis]

Very disappointed in Lowe if that's all Phoenix had to give up for Olli given the pieces Edmonton has available to move right now.

[Maple Leafs]

Leafs and Isles swap picks.

[Arctic Blast]

Very disappointed in Lowe if that's all Phoenix had to give up for Olli given the pieces Edmonton has available to move right now.

Keep in mind that Edmonton doesn't have a pick in rounds 2 or 3. Maybe they did make an offer, but Phoenix's throwing in one of their 773 picks, one they KNEW Edmonton couldn't match, sealed it.

[Danny]

Cammellerri was gone after the season anyway, but seems like they could have done a touch better for him.

[Arctic Blast]

Toronto threw in their 2nd AND 3rd rounders for next year to move up 2 spots.

[Arctic Blast]

RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

[Maple Leafs]

Toronto threw in their 2nd AND 3rd rounders for next year to move up 2 spots.
Steep, but apparently the dropoff after pick five (or six, depending on Filatov) was a big one.

[Pyser]

didnt philly get umberger as a fa? thats a pretty nice turnaround.

[DeToxRox]

Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR ;)

[Logan]

didnt philly get umberger as a fa? thats a pretty nice turnaround.

Yeah, because Sather didn't sign him (thanks to Burke not signing him).

[Dr. Sak]

RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

That bums me out. He was my favorite player.

[Galaxy]

Just got home. The Sabres picked up 6'7'' D Tyler Myers. Any thoughts on him? Why did they trade up one spot? What did they give up?

[Dr. Sak]

Devils trade their first round pick for 12,000 fans to sit in their seats next season.

[MrBug708]

Kings pick up two defenseman who are both touted as the next Chris Pronger

[bhlloy]

I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

[Dr. Sak]

So they will sleep with a anchorwoman then have their wives tell them they have to move to another city?

[Galaxy]

I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

A weak draft? Isn't this suppose to be one of the deepest drafts in quite some time?

[Danny]

Cammalleri is a good offensive player, but he's only a one-way player and doesn't really help a team like the Kings as much who have weak goaltending. And he was unhappy and out of here after the season anyway. He's a better fit on the Flames, and it was a good move for them.

[Dr. Sak]

Flyers trade their 27th overall pick for Steve Eminger and a pick in the 3rd round.

[Dr. Sak]

Viktor Tikhonov's grandson gets picked by Phoenix.

[Young Drachma]

Off the top of my head, I can't think too far back...but just from TSN's flash of past #1 picks, the NHL might have the best track record when it comes to top overall picks turning into superstars.

Best development system any of the major four leagues too. I don't even mean the minors, but the juniors, international and all of that, there are ample places for players to go to get high quality talent to play and to develop. Teams may still rush players, but there isn't a real need to as much as in the other sports.

Not as much hype and press coverage in the US for players coming up, helps blot out the white noise too.

[Chief Rum]

arctic, complain about the kings goalie situation all you want. everyone here does.

doesnt mean its been fixed in 10 years of complaining, though.

The Hockey News draft preview called the Kings' search for a goalie the "40-year Search for a #1", lol.

[Chief Rum]

Maple Leafs : Florida also got a 2nd rounder in that deal. Maybe a bit of a surprise, yeah, but Ballard is a pretty nice player. Boynton's a spare part, though, at least I think so.

Pyser : Yeah, it has been awhile, hasn't it? Is Bernier looking like he could be the real deal?

And, finally, my God...let's have the NHL go the NFL route, and the commissioner just makes the pick and trade announcement, rather than these neverending blathering speeches from team reps! :banghead:

The Kings actually have some solid young netminder talent in the system, but none of them have proven they are ready yet.

[Chief Rum]

Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR ;)

'S'All right, I knew we didn't have a good shot at him at #12 (which was true), and then when we dropped to #17, no way. I'll be watching to see how he does.

[Chief Rum]

Toronto threw in their 2nd AND 3rd rounders for next year to move up 2 spots.

Word is Burkey threw his clipboard at the stage when he heard that news. :D

[Chief Rum]

I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

Well, not a weak draft, actually. By most reports the deepest draft in years. And we can't fit Cammy under our cap anyway and expect to keep Perry. I would rather have Perry.

BTW, the Niedermayer clan got one bigger tonight. Scotty and wife Lisa have #4, Luke Scott Niedermayer. Future team captain in the making. ;)

[Chief Rum]

So they will sleep with a anchorwoman then have their wives tell them they have to move to another city?

Come on, have you ever met an anchorwoman you wouldn't consider banging? Even the old ones are cougars. And I hear you know a thing or two about cougars.

[Chief Rum]

So Burke traded again, and now has three second rounders to go with three third rounders. The goal is to end up with 500 ninth round picks.

[Dr. Sak]

Rawr!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Geez, I forgot all about Patrick Stefan...not that it was hard to forget him. :D

Tell me about it :(

[Suburban Rhythm]

RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

Doesn't he realize he'll only play Pittsburgh like once/twice a year now?

Also PING duff88-

Thoughts on Jared Staal? I keep seeing things about him being as talented as the othe brothers, but I just don't see it.

[Draft Dodger]

this is exactly why the kings are fucking trash.

if you believe the rumor, they could have had malkin for cammellerri and the #2. instead they trade a guy 1 year past an 80 point season on a crap team for a prospect.

no one believes that rumor though

[duff88]

Doesn't he realize he'll only play Pittsburgh like once/twice a year now?

Also PING duff88-

Thoughts on Jared Staal? I keep seeing things about him being as talented as the othe brothers, but I just don't see it.

Jared could be worth a 6th-7th round pick. The thing about being more talented started when his father said the best of the brothers was the youngest, but he was actually talking about Jordan and it kinda started a huge misunderstanding.

Jared is huge, but he's an awful skater. That said, he got better through the year and I think he may have what it takes to be a journeyman. But his skating is really bad.

EDIT: Staal got picked by Phoenix right as I was posting this. Here's a website to follow the upcoming rounds:

http://www.nhlentrydraft2008.com/selectionsNHL2008EntryDraft.aspx?round=2

[Tekneek]

Jared Staal has a chance. It wouldn't be the first time a player was drafted more because of his bloodline than what he has demonstrated so far.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Thanks guys...one more.

Any sleeper types you like who will be around late rounds, since the Pens don't have a pick until the 4th round.

And this cracked me up, the Isles pick of Petrov--

NY Islanders (from Edmonton via NY Islanders, Edmonton, Anaheim)

So EDM and NYI each held this pick twice?!

[Arctic Blast]

Well, not a weak draft, actually. By most reports the deepest draft in years. And we can't fit Cammy under our cap anyway and expect to keep Perry. I would rather have Perry.

BTW, the Niedermayer clan got one bigger tonight. Scotty and wife Lisa have #4, Luke Scott Niedermayer. Future team captain in the making. ;)

Just wondering, Chief, but has Scott announced his intentions to play.not play next year, yet?

[Chief Rum]

Just wondering, Chief, but has Scott announced his intentions to play.not play next year, yet?

No, he hasn't. Burke gave him a deadline of the draft, but then extended it through the weekend because of Scotty's kid being born. So expect to hear a decision Monday.

Teemu is also expected to provide an answer by free agency (although Burke can't compel him like Nieds, as Teemu is technically an UFA), and Nieds decision will likely again impact Teemu's decision.

[sterlingice]

Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR ;)

From what I've read, awesome talent but crazy. What's the real deal?

SI

[DeToxRox]

From what I've read, awesome talent but crazy. What's the real deal?

SI

Lot of run in's on and off the ice. He is basically Sean Avery lite. He will take cheap shots, start a lot of fights and talk a lot of shit. His most renowned incident was calling a kid born with curveature of the spine a Hunchback. He said he didn't know he had a disease and apologized for it but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

[samifan24]

His most renowned incident was calling a kid born with curveature of the spine a Hunchback. He said he didn't know he had a disease and apologized for it but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

That kid was Milan Lucic. I can't wait for Lucic to beat Beach's ass this season.

[RomaGoth]

Lot of run in's on and off the ice. He is basically Sean Avery lite. He will take cheap shots, start a lot of fights and talk a lot of shit. His most renowned incident was calling a kid born with curveature of the spine a Hunchback. He said he didn't know he had a disease and apologized for it but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

Sounds like a guy who will be pummeled regularly in the NHL.

[Chief Rum]

Sounds like a guy who will be pummeled regularly in the NHL.

Except he's pretty huge. And it sounds like he's mean, too.