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ace1914
07-28-2008, 08:22 AM
Are there undocumented(by Solevision) ejections after unsportsmanlike conduct penelties?

I ask because my starting running back with 87 EN decided that after this series he didn't want/couldn't to play anymore:

<table width="98%" bgcolor="#ffcc00" border="0" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff">North Liberty: Single-Back formation with four receivers, strength is left. The defense is in a 43 with nickel personnel and 2-deep bump-and-run coverage, expecting the run. Holmberg is blitzing.
1-10-NLB31 (2Q: 15:00) Cambell Soup Kid Allen pass completed to RB Conrad Bronson for 4 yards. Tackled by ILB Norm Barnes. Bronson gained 4 yards after the catch.</td></tr> <tr><td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff">North Liberty: Strong formation with three wideouts, strength is left. The defense is in a 43 with nickel personnel and 4-deep zone coverage, expecting the pass. Holmberg and Barnes are blitzing.
2-6-NLB35 (2Q: 14:23) Myron Allen pass completed to WR Phillip Forbes for 2 yards. Tackled by CB Irv Abraham, assisted by DT Norbert Kaye.</td></tr> <tr><td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff">North Liberty: I formation, with the second wideout in the slot, strength is left. The defense is in a 43 with dime personnel and 3-deep zone coverage, keying aggressively on the pass.
3-4-NLB37 (2Q: 13:52) Myron Allen pass fell incomplete, intended for TE Johnny May. DE Damon Jackson hurried the quarterback into a bad throw. PENALTY: North Liberty was called for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Morgantown's R.J. Finley was hurt on the play.</td></tr> <tr><td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff">4-19-NLB22 (2Q: 13:46) Bruce Wasserman punted 51 yards. Dustin Alcorn returned the kick 3 yards to the MOR30. Tackled by Jamal Correia.</td></tr></tbody> </table>

Now Bronson is a 3rd year, 71/71 back who's averaged over 1330 yards over his first 2 seasons and had nearly 1000 coming into this week 12 game. My backup running back played the remainder of the game. Of course we ended up losing without Bronson.

Anyway despite his talent, he is a red-flag player and this is the first time I've seen this. Any thoughts?

gstelmack
07-28-2008, 08:37 AM
I have seen documented ejections in Solevision. That's not a Solevision log above though, that's a game log. Watch the Solevision through that series and see what it says.

ace1914
07-29-2008, 08:06 AM
I have seen documented ejections in Solevision. That's not a Solevision log above though, that's a game log. Watch the Solevision through that series and see what it says.

I did. I watched the game before I looked through the game log. No mention of an ejection or injury in either. The halfback only ran 3 times and participated in 6 passing plays.

Ben E Lou
07-30-2008, 04:17 AM
I did. I watched the game before I looked through the game log. No mention of an ejection or injury in either. The halfback only ran 3 times and participated in 6 passing plays.I checked the Solevision and game log for this one and can verify that there were no mentions of it. Further, I checked the box score at the time of the unsportsmanlike conduct in the second quarter and sure enough, he had participated in 6 passing plays up to that point. So yeah, it sure looks like he didn't play another single down after that.

That being said, maybe it was the Unsportsmanlike Conduct play, and maybe not. I wouldn't be shocked that if at some point, purely due to horrid dice rolls on every single play, a starting RB gets zero participation in a game. I mean, all indications are that it checks against the RB1's endurance, and no on else's. I suppose then that if there's, say, a 75% chance of RB1 participating on each play, then there's a (1/4)^65ish chance that he participates in zero plays in a game. *shurg*

Ben E Lou
07-30-2008, 07:19 AM
(Obviously, the more likely answer is that it's either a bug or design decision, but just saying that it's *possible*.)

ace1914
07-30-2008, 08:30 AM
I understand. It was just wild to watch the 2nd half and sit there like:

"Where the hell is Bronson?" on every running play.

Vinatieri for Prez
07-31-2008, 12:36 AM
Did you check to see if on the roster injury screen if it showed 100% for Bronson? Maybe its a minor injury in the same game not mentioned in the game logs or Solevision. Probably not the answer, but just trying to rule out other possibilities.

ace1914
07-31-2008, 10:43 AM
Did you check to see if on the roster injury screen if it showed 100% for Bronson? Maybe its a minor injury in the same game not mentioned in the game logs or Solevision. Probably not the answer, but just trying to rule out other possibilities.

Yea. I checked that too. No injury.