Awkward 2008

[Radii]

This is getting posted to clear up all the confusion in the Romance in Marriage thread. I'm not usually one for dramabombs, but at this point NOT posting I'm afraid looks like I'm playing some game here with the people on the forum, which I'm not. This is going to be way too long.

It looks like the thread discussing the fact that Oliegirl and I had gotten divorced is deleted, and even if it wasn't, many people wouldn't have read it because it was a "ping: Atlanta people - anyone want a dog" thread that offhand mentioned "oh btw Radii and I are getting divorced which is why I'm moving and might not be able to keep the dog" ... it was extremely surreal but I guess most everyone got the message back then and after that point I assumed Oliegirl would be leaving the board anyway so no other grand attention-drawing post was made. So if anyone didn't know we were divorced... wow, uh, really? Doh! We got divorced in January 2007, separated in the middle of 2006. It was amicable, though I still was fairly stunned she didn't leave the board because yeah, you split up your shit when you get divorced, including your virtual communities in this great internet age.

It stopped being amicable after about 3 months when I turned into super-dumbass-gullible Richard. We were chatting a few times a week over IM and she asked to borrow some money, I'd be paid back within 3 days when her parents returned from a vacation and would help her out. I know that there's problems, I know I might not see the money ever again, but if she can't eat, then the kiddo can't eat either... hard to say no to that. The problem was that ended up being some sort of "take the money and run" situation. After chatting 2-3 times a week over IM and an occasional phone call if someone needed something, she all of a sudden disappeared, stopped answering phone/IM/e-mail. So now I know what's up and hopefully won't be too dumb anymore. But it sure as shit is no longer amicable.

Fast forward to July 2007, when I found out about the first account opened in my name. It was a Dell account, used to purchase a computer. That computer was sent to Oliegirl's address. She told a number of lies about it at first, but eventually owned up to doing that. There was also <a href="http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=59512">The iPhone</a>, at a time when my credit was being stolen and Oliegirl can barely pay her bills, she gets a new iphone? So thanks to her not leaving the board, I eventually put the pieces together on that and call up AT&T, and yup, there's a phone account in my name, my SSN, her address, the same phone number that she had given me in case I needed to get in touch with her(ie duh its DEFINITELY her), and an iPhone data plan. There were also a couple credit cards. SOMEHOW, I was expected to believe that, yes, Oliegirl decided to buy a computer and get an iPhone plan in my name, sent to her address, but that the credit cards someone else did(an ex-boyfriend). luckily for me(as far as building proof, like any more should have been needed), she is a terrible liar and told me it was a long distance relationship and the guy didn't ever live in Atlanta. One of the credit card companies sent me all the credit statements, and they were used primarily to buy gas, chinese takeout, etc, at stores right around the corner from her parents house, not a place someone in a long distance relationship is going to be making charges every week. Every new account that has been found has been blamed on said ex. However the pattern on all of them is exactly the same. My name, my SSN, one of a couple of her home addresses that i never lived at. More details on that saga are in the <a href="http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=61459">Identity Theft Hits close to Home</a> thread. Why not call her out by name right away? B/c she'll just lie. Turn the whole thing into a giant he said-she said and I know she has friends here too. I don't want that shit. I expect it now too but its a lot more out in the open now.

As I start talking to police, creditors, all that jazz, she is STILL POSTING HERE and I am just fucking baffled. At multiple points in this whole saga e-mails have been sent saying that the only thing I care about as a resolution here is that I never have to see her or hear about her or from her again. There are only two times I get reminded of this bullshit now... one is when yet another new account from the ID Theft turns up and I get to go through all the old forms I've filled out and add a new one, a new round of trying to protect my credit. The other is every fucking day when she posts on FOFC. So yes, I would absolutely love it if Oliegirl never posted here again. Does it ruin my day/week/month/life? No, of course not. But its a constant annoyance, sure.

[MikeVic]

Wow! I'm so sorry Radii. I don't know what to say!

[MIJB#19]

in before the lock?

Edit: not taking a position on the story (which is wow-ing), but I've got a feeling this won't end well...

[spleen1015]

Well......

Sorry for your luck, homie. Now we know who oliegirl really is?

[digamma]

Radii,

I'm so glad you've weathered this storm and stuck around the community. You've always added so much, whether it is FOF, FBCB, poker, college hoops (even if you are a Tar Hole) or whatever else. I know it took guts to post this. Hopefully, the skies in front of you are Carolina blue.

[st.cronin]

Um, wow.

[MIJB#19]

Radii,

I'm so glad you've weathered this storm and stuck around the community. You've always added so much, whether it is FOF, FBCB, poker, college hoops (even if you are a Tar Hole) or whatever else. I know it took guts to post this. Hopefully, the skies in front of you are Carolina blue.Yes, hell yes. Agreed to all of that.

[DaddyTorgo]

ummm wow.

Wtf!

wow wow wow

[MJ4H]

awkward

[cartman]

I echo the :eek:s

And here I was thinking of making a smart-ass comment in the Identity Theft thread not knowing this. Glad I didn't.

[Deattribution]

Considering how long you've went without saying anything specific while having her here, I think you've given it a fair chance to be amicable. Hope everything works out for the best.

[Karlifornia]

Ain't that some shit?

[ISiddiqui]

Holy Shit!

Hang in there Radii.

[Butter]

Sorry to hear all that Radii.

So, uhhhhh.... how's that poker coming?

[Karlifornia]

Oh, man. I can't believe he held that stuff in for so long. Her very first post after this went down, I would have flown off the handle with a creative list of very colorful names for her.

[cuervo72]

Radii,

I'm so glad you've weathered this storm and stuck around the community. You've always added so much, whether it is FOF, FBCB, poker, college hoops (even if you are a Tar Hole) or whatever else. I know it took guts to post this. Hopefully, the skies in front of you are Carolina blue.

Exactly.

Radii, sorry if I brought this to a head if you didn't really want it to. But now that it's out, I hope you feel just a *little* less burdened, and I hope it can help to finally put this completely behind you.

Also, I'm sure there are a few who are going to be very happy to take the gloves off (me...I happen to do passive-aggressive better).

[Flasch186]

no need for acronyms. Hope it ends up ok for you.

[st.cronin]

hieuofu as well

[Toddzilla]

Sorry about that Radii - I'm glad you seem to have a good handle on things. Best of luck, brother.

Ping: Oliegirl - GTFO

[kingfc22]

Damn. Sorry Radii. Hope this shit stops.

[Eaglesfan27]

I had no idea this was happening until last night. Best of luck to you, Radii, and I hope getting this all off your chest was helpful.

[sabotai]

Every new account that has been found has been blamed on said ex. However the pattern on all of them is exactly the same. My name, my SSN, one of a couple of her home addresses that i never lived at. More details on that saga are in the Identity Theft Hits close to Home (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=61459) thread. Why not call her out by name right away? B/c she'll just lie. Turn the whole thing into a giant he said-she said and I know she has friends here too. I don't want that shit. I expect it now too but its a lot more out in the open now.

Just read through that thread again. She did all of that!? Holy crap.

[st.cronin]

I just reread that thread, and feel stupid for not picking up on the hints and subtext.

[Swaggs]

I suspected things were bad, but would not have imagined that all of that took place and how long you bit your tongue.

You are a bigger man than me for dealing with this as well as you have.

[GoldenEagle]

I am giggling at a PM that I got from olliegirl. Basically, she said that she wanted to keep everything private between her and Radii. I would say the shit is not happening.

Also, I believe that olliegirl's current husband is also registered on the board and has played a game of werewolf.

[st.cronin]

Also, I believe that olliegirl's current husband is also registered on the board and has played a game of werewolf.

At least one, I think it might be 2...

[Noop]

Bitches be crazy man.....bitches be crazy man.

That being said your a pretty strong do to hold it back for this long.

[Noop]

Also, I believe that olliegirl's current husband is also registered on the board and has played a game of werewolf.

Really?

:popcorn: <--- I am ready.

[GoldenEagle]

Olliegirl does have some big hairy balls to still post here after doing all that shit. I would be happy that I was not in prison.

[Logan]

Damn man...echoing everyone else with the props for how you've handled this. All the best.

[GoldenEagle]

Also, olliegirl mentioned in a PM that Radii and her discussed her still posting here when they split up and that he was ok with it.

But yeah, we have already established that is she is lying.

[Greyroofoo]

women can not be trusted

[TCY Junkie]

And I tried to make some of my post make cents for her.

[DaddyTorgo]

oy vey!

[spleen1015]

Olliegirl does have some big hairy balls to still post here after doing all that shit. I would be happy that I was not in prison.

Let's see how big those hairy balls are now.

Okay, admit it. Who has already sent her a scathing PM?

[Tasan]

Wow, you are a million times bigger than me. I think every post/thread/whatever she put up, I'd have a counter post/thread/whatever trying to get her off of here, especially after the whole identity theft stuff.

[Dr. Sak]

Should we start a FOFC poll to see how long till she posts?

Sorry Radii that you had to go through this...some people's actions never cease to amaze me.

[DaddyTorgo]

should we have a poll like the red sox apparently did with manny?

[Chief Rum]

This is very troubling to me. I have been around Radii in this community for some years now and have a high opinion of him. I have no reason to doubt what he says. So I would be inclined to accept everything above as true (or as true as one side gets).

On the other hand, oliegirl has become a key part of the WW community here, which is a key part of my community on the board. She has helped me with a draft and a WW game recently, and she was a tremendous help and great throughout.

So trying to pair my experience with her and my experience with Radii, and what he has said here is making it difficult for me to resolve how things are or how I should react. This should matter little to either of them, of course, but it matters a lot to me, and I'll have to think about it and continue reading this thread.

I have not sent a scathing PM to oliegirl myself. Wouldn't be surprised to see others have, though.

[Danny]

You handled this extremely well, just as good if not better than anybody could have. Best of luck to you with all of this.

As for the person who did this, someone who would do such a terrible thing deserves all of the ridicule received and to be in jail.

[Racer]

Wow. I can't believe you kept that to yourself for so long.

[stevew]

I've always been fond of you radii. In a non gay way of course.

I bit my tongue a lot out of respect for you. I figured you were cool with her being here. Because shit with her didn't add up at all. Too many things didn't seem on the up and up

I began to get the veiled references on your last round of posts in that thread.

I'm sorry you've suffered. So much over a girl you cared about. Especially with the kid involved.

She obviously has no decency and should be incarcerated.

[JeeberD]

When I read the Identity Theft thread, I wondered if she was involved. I wasn't about to come out and ask, though. I've always liked olie well enough, so this is very disappointing to find out...

[JeeberD]

Dola-

Radii's awesome, and I hope getting this off your chest helps you out, dude.

[MrBug708]

Does this mean Oliegirl isn't coming around here anymore?

[oliegirl]

Wow.

For starters, again - what happened between Radii and myself was private. Like everyone here, I have a past and things in that past that I am not proud of. That being said, I did not do all of the things that he accused me of. I have given him the information that I have, offered (and did) send a letter with that information (the other parties name, address, etc) to one of the companies involved. Both my parents and I filed police reports against this other person and my parents filed charges because of the extent of their report (dollar wise). I know radii believes I am lying, and I am the first one to admit that it looks bad - this person did a very good job of covering things. Mail was forwarded to a PO box that I didn't know about, he was in town on a very regular basis (weekly) so even though we did not live together, he was around a lot, and there were many times that he had access to my apartment when I was not there.

Radii and I had, of course, spoken about this in private, and of course I wished it had stayed there. I understand your anger. We did speak about me posting here in the past, and at no point had he told me he did not want me to, or even insinuate it. I also told him before I ever mentioned it here that I was getting remarried, and he had nothing but congratulations and best wishes for me.

If I'm asked to not post here at all, or only post in WW, that is fine. However, like I said - there are 2 sides to every story, and in this case there are 3, because of the other person involved. This is something that should have remained private, but it didn't, and that can't be undone.

[GoldenEagle]

olliegirl is currently viewing the WW forum.

[cartman]

olliegirl is currently viewing the WW forum.

she's also posting in this thread

[GoldenEagle]

If I'm asked to not post here at all, or only post in WW, that is fine. However, like I said - there are 2 sides to every story, and in this case there are 3, because of the other person involved. This is something that should have remained private, but it didn't, and that can't be undone.

So you freely admit to stealing radii's identity to get a computer and an iphone but deny it when some credit cards opened up in his name. Even if you are telling the truth, where did the ex-boyfreind get the information from? Uh, you. You are the worse kind of worse in my opinion. I am also not just talking about your werewolf play, which is pretty bad.

Radii, you are a man. There is no way I could have put up with this shit.

[stevew]

Hornsmaniac with a vagina

[Maple Leafs]

Man, and I thought the post-breakup dynamic between me and Neuq was awkward.

[Neuqua]

Man, and I thought the post-breakup dynamic between me and Neuq was awkward.

Didn't we agree you would only post in the Soccer forum from now on? :mad: :mad:

[RendeR]

OK,GE and anyone else who feels like opening their jaws and making this situation that much worse, please do not. Shut yer browser and walk away.

#1 none of this is our business here. no matter that its been posted, its their private little hell and we are merely visitors to it.

#2 No, it is not our place to say anything, so don;t even try the argument that "its a public form...blah blah blah" just STFU and leave it alone.

Lastly, Radii, Olie, I'm sorry things went as they did for you and I hope you work things out.

As for the posting issue, thats between Olie and Radii. If anyone else doesn't want to deal with Olie then use the ignore feature instead of creating more ill-will smongst everyone.

Yeah, its a wow situation, but its also not one that needed to become public knowlege, for my own part in that I apologize to you both.

[JeeberD]

The best part of this thread is GE defending Radii. But I guess it's not March Madness, so those two can get along at the moment...

[Maple Leafs]

Didn't we agree you would only post in the Soccer forum from now on? :mad: :mad:All our agreements went out the window when you let Sak put his tongue there.

[GoldenEagle]

OK,GE and anyone else who feels like opening their jaws and making this situation that much worse, please do not. Shut yer browser and walk away.

#1 none of this is our business here. no matter that its been posted, its their private little hell and we are merely visitors to it.

#2 No, it is not our place to say anything, so don;t even try the argument that "its a public form...blah blah blah" just STFU and leave it alone.

Lastly, Radii, Olie, I'm sorry things went as they did for you and I hope you work things out.

As for the posting issue, thats between Olie and Radii. If anyone else doesn't want to deal with Olie then use the ignore feature instead of creating more ill-will smongst everyone.

Yeah, its a wow situation, but its also not one that needed to become public knowlege, for my own part in that I apologize to you both.

Whatever. It is posted in this message board. I do tend to agree with everything you say, but it is public knowledge now and I can choose to comment on it anyway that I want to. Just like its olie's right to still post on this board, it is my right to comment on situations that become public knowledge on this board.

[GoldenEagle]

The best part of this thread is GE defending Radii. But I guess it's not March Madness, so those two can get along at the moment...

I have never had a problem with Radii. I am sure we have had an argument over college basketball but I honestly do not remember. I sometimes wear my heart on my sleeve during March Madness and that has caused some problems, but I know that I have never fucked anyone over on this board. I guess really I am just defending decency.

[st.cronin]

Whatever. It is posted in this message board. I do tend to agree with everything you say, but it is public knowledge now and I can choose to comment on it anyway that I want to. Just like its olie's right to still post on this board, it is my right to comment on situations that become public knowledge on this board.

agree

[Antmeister]

Um.....I must have missed an entire battleship passing me in at the crack of dawn. When did the oliegirl/Radii thing happen? Because everyone else seems to know about it except me. Okay, maybe I don't really want to know. I will look forward to the Awkward 2008 thread.

Wow! I was half-joking about this, but to see that this came true is freaking surreal. And not because of the simple title, but the content inside. I am not going to take any side, but I do feel a lot more sympathy for Radii. Someone pointed out to me some other posts about this new husband and some other throwaway posts that do appear to be taking shots at Radii at an off-hand type of way. Plus the fact he was getting screwed because of identity theft, regardless of any version of the story, makes it remarkable that he tried to deal with this situation amicably. I can't believe I didn't pick up on any of this while the wife is in astonishment.

[Lorena]

Uuumm.. wow

[digamma]

If I'm asked to not post here at all, or only post in WW, that is fine.

I think radii did, and that, it seems to me, is the only request that should be remotely relevant.

An apology wouldn't be a bad thing either, but given the tone of your post, that might be beyond any reasonable expectation. I mean, seriously, how you attempted to make this thread about you, with what I judge to be a pretty sincere concern about being able to play werewolf, is pretty fucking astounding.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Wow! I was half-joking about this, but to see that this came true is freaking surreal. And not because of the simple title, but the content inside. I am not going to take any side, but I do feel a lot more sympathy for Radii. Someone pointed out to me some other posts about this new husband and some other throwaway posts that do appear to be taking shots at Radii at an off-hand type of way. Plus the fact he was getting screwed because of identity theft, regardless of any version of the story, makes it remarkable that he tried to deal with this situation amicably. I can't believe I didn't pick up on any of this while the wife is in astonishment.

Uuumm.. wow

Totally unrelated to the juicy parts of this thread...but these back to back posts killed me.

I am picturing you both, side by side, reading the thread and ...
:jawdrop:

[RendeR]

Whatever. It is posted in this message board. I do tend to agree with everything you say, but it is public knowledge now and I can choose to comment on it anyway that I want to. Just like its olie's right to still post on this board, it is my right to comment on situations that become public knowledge on this board.

agree


And you're right, you have the right to post anything you want. You have the right to remain silient ot to speak out and prove how utter calous and witless some members of this board can be. You have the right to decide when and where to stick your nose and like the vast majority of human beings you'll probablky (or already have in GE's case) chosen...poorly.

There are cases where public opinion is warrented and even needed. This one is not one of those cases. The only people who truly KNOW what is going on are Radii and Olie, the rest of us need to recognize this and stay out of their private lives.

We may have every right to post, but it is NOT OUR PLACE to say jack shit about what is going on between them.

Please, for the love of whatrever you hold dear, learn THAT point. Making ourselves feel important by throwing about inciteful and assholish posts based on a few lines of text in a thread might be fun for some, but in this case its still wrong.

If this all cae out because Radii or Olie wanted it out, I might be on your side of things GE, but this came out because of a few mis-spoken comments in a completely different thread that touched on something they had kept to themselves and then Radii felt compelled to clarify things.

Just leave them alone. Please.

[QuikSand]

I am not going to take any side, but I do feel a lot more sympathy for Radii.

I agree with this.

Well, some of it, I mean.

Well, just the last part.

Well, if by "a lot more" you mean "only" and just take out the first part entirely. Then I'm good.



Oh, hell. Radii, you have been really mature about this under trying circumstances, and I hope this thread yields some relief. You deserve it.

[RendeR]

ANd yes, this may very well be a case of the pot calling the kettle fat and black and ugly and dirty and more based on my past performances, but god damnit, If i can't learn from previous mistakes WTF good are they?

[NoMyths]

Someone needs to add Radii's username to the definition of "stoic" in Wikipedia.

[GoldenEagle]

If this all cae out because Radii or Olie wanted it out, I might be on your side of things GE, but this came out because of a few mis-spoken comments in a completely different thread that touched on something they had kept to themselves and then Radii felt compelled to clarify things.

Just leave them alone. Please.

I understand where you are coming from. But Radii is the one who came out and posted all of this. He also gave several hints in the identity theft thread. Have you read that?

I just think that is wrong to screw someone over so badly and then have the audacity to post everyday in one of his internet hang-outs. In my opinion, oliegirl should be sitting in jail right now.

[MikeVic]

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Is it Possible to Fudge a bank Statement? (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showpost.php?p=1173951&postcount=51)

Should've taken her own advice. ;)

[Flasch186]

:popcorn:

[stevew]

Post every day in one of his IntErnet hangouts most likely using the computer fraudulently.obtained using his personal info

Fixed for you GE

[QuikSand]

By the way, for some reason I just thought of this... does anyone else prefer the old usenet term "killfile" to the much more mundane "ignore list" term used here? Just curious.

[RendeR]

I understand where you are coming from. But Radii is the one who came out and posted all of this. He also gave several hints in the identity theft thread. Have you read that?

I just think that is wrong to screw someone over so badly and then have the audacity to post everyday in one of his internet hang-outs. In my opinion, oliegirl should be sitting in jail right now.


And thats great that you have an opinion, but frankly do you realy think Either Radii or obviously olie really want or need to hear from you or anyone else on this matter?

No. They really don't.

If it were as simple as that she probably would be already, but she's not, so obviously there is a LOT more here that we don;t know, thats why I'm asking everyone to leave off. its hard enough for them to deal with it, they don't need our half-baked barely-informed asses butting into it.

Yes he posted it and he's tried to talk about it before, but in THIS instance its not just his own impetus to post, others without any knowledge nagged for it not knowing where it was going. So it shouldn't BE out here to talk about, hence my attempt to keep people from villifying anyone without all the facts.

I'm not trying to take any side, I'm just trying to keep FOFC out of Radii/Olie's perdonal life, especially over something as intimate and serious as this situation.

So again, I ask, Please, just drop it and let them deal with it.

[st.cronin]

By the way, for some reason I just thought of this... does anyone else prefer the old usenet term "killfile" to the much more mundane "ignore list" term used here? Just curious.

Yes.

[GoldenEagle]

So again, I ask, Please, just drop it and let them deal with it.

I think that ship has sailed. I get from Radii's post that he has tried to deal with it in a random manner. But stuff keeps getting opened in his name. I can't speak for Radii, but I would bet its pretty damn enlightening to come on here and reveal the truth.

My first clue about oliegirl was when she made the thread asking about cussing in front of her child. She wanted to stop using English cuss words in front of her child but instead thought it would be clever to use cuss words from other languages. Hey, here is an idea, why don't you just not cuss at all?

I wanted to post that at the time but my rep had taken a big hit (must have been around March Madness) and oliegirl was still somewhat of a popular character around here.

[st.cronin]

Get out of my head, GoldenEagle.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So it shouldn't BE out here to talk about, hence my attempt to keep people from villifying anyone without all the facts.

I'm not trying to take any side, I'm just trying to keep FOFC out of Radii/Olie's perdonal life, especially over something as intimate and serious as this situation.

So again, I ask, Please, just drop it and let them deal with it.

Me & Render aren't exactly known for being in agreement very often, but this deserves a big ol' +1.

edit to add: That we have moderation that changes HA's user name but leaves shit like this thread on the board completely astonishes me. And after nearly 16k posts, I'm not easy to astonish.

[Logan]

I'd agree with you Jon if it was anyone else besides Radii who started this thread.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'd agree with you Jon if it was anyone else besides Radii who started this thread.

FTR, I mean no slight to him with my position. I'd feel the same about it if Ben himself had posted it (and he owns the joint).

[Logan]

I don't know...it's his business that he's choosing to air. We have people who start threads about personal stuff, so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to speak out just because someone involved in it happens to post here too.

[panerd]

Never understood why anyone would bring their wife or girlfirend here in the first place, but I am sure I will piss off far more people with that statement than I will get people to agree with me.

On a related note, but far less serious. (But the same amount of fucking gull) A group of friends for 20+ years of mine started doing fantasy when it wasn't as big a deal and one year we had to invite one buddy's wife to fill a spot. Well she kind of became bigger member of the league over the course of like 3 years and we really started to accept her as a fun/active member. Then she got caught fucking a coworker of his and quickly became my friend's ex-wife. Can you believe there actually was a discussion between them about who should stay in the league or whether they both should? Like any of us were going to stay friends with (or even be civil to) someone who did that to our childhood friend.

If Oliegirl really did all the shit in the first post she should never post here again. No discussion.

[Radii]

I'm obviously not going to be getting into a conversation with my ex here.

Lots of people already knew this whole story and have been very respectful to me by biting their tongues here for over a year now, but really, the second it came up I just felt like the release of airing this shit was very much needed. Maybe it would have been better to just say "sorry not talking about it" but this has really been a release that's a year in coming, kinda needed to happen IMO. If a mod were to deem it inappropriate and delete, so be it, but it is clearly an awkward situation, has been for a long damn time, and once it came up in a public discussion I really had no problem stating what I feel about the whole thing. *shurg*

[kcchief19]

I agree with this.

Well, some of it, I mean.

Well, just the last part.

Well, if by "a lot more" you mean "only" and just take out the first part entirely. Then I'm good.



Oh, hell. Radii, you have been really mature about this under trying circumstances, and I hope this thread yields some relief. You deserve it.
As usual, QuikSand pretty much nails what's going through my mind.

All other personal and subtext issues aside, a sad fact of relationships is that when a husband and wife divorce you frequently have to split up the friends, or even if not you steer clear of each other with the friends you share. If WW was that important to her (insert rolling eyes emoticon here) then go there. He shouldn't have had to ask her to leave -- the right thing to do would be to do it on her own.

[kcchief19]

Me & Render aren't exactly known for being in agreement very often, but this deserves a big ol' +1.

edit to add: That we have moderation that changes HA's user name but leaves shit like this thread on the board completely astonishes me. And after nearly 16k posts, I'm not easy to astonish.
I don't really want to clutter this up with a sidetrack but I have no idea how one could draw any type of connection between moderating HA and moderating this discussion.

How is this any different from the hundreds -- if not thousands -- of personal threads here where someone posts their side of the story? Just because both people involved are users? We've had plenty of other personal disputes between people get posted here. What typically happens is that both sides post their side of the story and people draw their own conclusions. Why does that need moderation?

[TCY Junkie]

If there is going to be any moderation I will do it, but let me warn you I am going to use Pumpy's dick as the gavel.

Is that good enough end the thread?

[Subby]

Radii - as I have said to you many times about this, hang in there. I am embarrassed for your ex-wife and hopes she finds the strength to get the help it sounds like she desperately needs.

You know where to find me if you need anything.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I don't really want to clutter this up with a sidetrack but I have no idea how one could draw any type of connection between moderating HA and moderating this discussion.

Well, since you asked ... because both are examples of incredibly poor judgment in moderation.

We've had plenty of other personal disputes between people get posted here.

On this level? Off hand I can't even think of one that even comes close. Or have I just spent years missing threads where there are literally legal issues between posters?

[Antmeister]

On this level? Off hand I can't even think of one that even comes close. Or have I just spent years missing threads where there are literally legal issues between posters?

Did you forget the drama that lead to the breakup of .400 Studios?

[duckman]

If this was a weekday, this thread would already be 200 pages long and locked.....

:popcorn:

[duckman]

dola...

Radii, stay strong. Karma will come around and make things right again.

[gkb]

Wow...what a post, what a thread. I'm astonished by some of the stuff I read here.

[GoldenEagle]

He shouldn't have had to ask her to leave -- the right thing to do would be to do it on her own.

But do you really think someone who steals identity and cusses in front of her kid is going that noble? I would like to accommodate Render and JiMG and say that I am done bashing oliegirl, but I just can't.

Radii, you are a fucking man. There is no way I could have put up with all this crap and take care of my parents. No wonder you don't post on 92o anymore.

[Radii]

No wonder you don't post on 92o anymore.


Nah, I don't post there because I suck at poker :)

[larrymcg421]

If Oliegirl really did all the shit in the first post she should never post here again. No discussion.

I would say the same thing even if she only did some of the stuff mentioned in the first post, and she even seems to admit this.

[Rizon]

This is the most bizarre thread in quite some time.

[Crim]

IBTL

[Icy]

I don't care about their personal relationship or reasons to divorce as usually divorce is a two persons things, with both sides of the true but as Oliegirl has admitted that some of the things that Radii posted are true, and even if only of them was true (like using his personal info to a buy a computer), my mind is already done and I can't avoid to think how annoying must have been for Radii to have her here in FOFC acting like a good person.

I have always had high respect for your Radii, and it's even higher now, you are an strong part of this community and i'm so happy to have you here. Keep up strong and i hope this all will end soon for you.

[kcchief19]

On this level? Off hand I can't even think of one that even comes close. Or have I just spent years missing threads where there are literally legal issues between posters?
I'm not sure the between posters issue is a major standard of any sort. We've had people essentially admit to major crimes on this message board or ask ways to commit major crimes (hiring prostitutes, using drugs, inquiring how to fudge bank statements, etc.) and some accusations and disputes between members (the .400 Studios example, the Druez drama, etc.). If JimmyWint's wife started posting on the board, should the moderators have to delete that thread.

Your comment suggests that it would be OK for Radii to make that post if olie weren't a poster here. I don't see why that makes a difference.

[RendeR]

Chief, my point wasn't necessarilly that Radii shouldn't have posted this, and this I tihnk is where Jon and I part ways in agreeing *grin*.

My point was that there should NOT be the attacking, villifying, downright nasty posts from the other members of this board in this thread regarding anyone involved, because we simply do not know the facts.

We know Radii's side, we've heard Olie's side, no matter what anyone admits to, there is no reason for any of us to just jump in and bitchslap someone when we don't know the entire story.

I do understand Radi wanting to get this off his chest, so to speak and I hope it helps him cope with it all.

I'm not saying he can't post it here, I'm simply asking the FOFC community to not act like it normally does and degenerate this thread into a hate filled bitch fest.

thats all.

[larrymcg421]

My point was that there should NOT be the attacking, villifying, downright nasty posts from the other members of this board in this thread regarding anyone involved, because we simply do not know the facts.

We know Radii's side, we've heard Olie's side, no matter what anyone admits to, there is no reason for any of us to just jump in and bitchslap someone when we don't know the entire story.


We know that she has admitted to some of the things in his post, and I think that's really all we need to know. I mean, the best case scenario is that she's telling the truth and only committed credit fraud once or twice, not just numerous times that Radii alleged. Even if that is the case, I don't see how it's wrong to form a low opinion of the character of a person who committed credit fraud against her ex-husband, then continued to post on a message board that he frequents, particularly posting about romantic moments she likes to share with her new husband.

[Suburban Rhythm]

I'm not saying he can't post it here, I'm simply asking the FOFC community to not act like it normally does and degenerate this thread into a hate filled bitch fest.


Let's be honest, I think that is what most of us come here for.

[Ben E Lou]

It's been fascinating that Radii has managed to hold his tongue for this long. This thread was inevitable and understandable, but needs to be closed.

[Ben E Lou]

Oh, and for those who expressed the concern about the thread being here and allowed to continue, the proper course for such things, as always, is to hit the little "report post" button. This board is far too active now to expect me or any mod to read every post, or even every thread. If something doesn't get reported or isn't in a thread with a title that catches my interest, there's a fair chance that I don't see it. However, I am sent an e-mail when threads are reported, so if I'm online, I get immediate notification. I'm not around FOFC 24/7, believe it or not, particularly on Saturdays. I'm not sure I was at FOFC at any point yesterday, fyi, and I was only here for a few minutes in the FOF2K7 forum earlier this morning.

In this case, I worked on a bunch of stuff for WOOF most of the morning and early afternoon. When I was done with WOOF stuff, I went to Home Depot, came home and worked in the yard for a good while, jumped in the shower, and then my wife and I went to an afternoon movie, took a long walk on the beach around sunset, and then went out for a late dinner and dessert. Yes, I have an actual life outside of FOFC. Shocker, I know. http://www.gstelmack.com/woof/forum/images/smilies/yikes.gif


Based on the timestamp, I have a really good idea of where I was when this thread started: in the car on the way to the see the Batman movie. *shurg*

I did check my e-mail briefly before I went to sleep last night, so again, if something had been reported, I would have done something then.