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Cringer
09-12-2008, 12:18 AM
So, about 8 months after walking off the truck I am doing one of the things I always wanted to do and couldn't before, I am coaching my daughters soccer team. A few years ago my wife coached her U6 team and I took part in that a few times when I could, but it was just that, a few times. My daughter hasn't played since (because of a somewhat disorganized soccer program in our town in that time) and is very excited to play and have me as the coach.
So let the madness begin. My daughter is supposed to be playing U9, but do to lack of kids in her age group (we blame the lack of knowledge about when sign-ups happen, same reason my daughter missed the last two years) she will be playing in what is U9 and U10 combined. Not only that, but coed as well. I got the call last night and went to pick up the roster and schedule tonight. Scrimmage games are Saturday morning, not a lot of time eh? Called all the parents, told them about Saturday and what they need, let them know to be there early so everyone can meet and we can try to squeeze in a short-sided game to warm up before hand. Then we will decide about when to practice afterwards and all that.....
(Interesting side story, lost one player already because the dad volunteered to coach and was given a team his son wasn't on. He said his son only plays if he is the coach so the League Director kicked the guy out and said he would be a bad coach anyways. Kid loses out because dad is selfish.)
Going to be interesting. I am currently trying to find a link to U9-U10 soccer rules. I have no idea how it differs right now and they said they just follow the USYS rules or something like that. :popcorn: I know it is 8v8, with goalie, and that is about it. Any tips from veteran soccer coaches would be cool. I am already planning training programs, mostly SSG's, though I am going to have to work with goalies and some basics for a few kids like throw-ins and such because they have limited to no experience.
Ok, back to looking at the info I can find online. So far footy4kids seems like a great site.
Izulde
09-12-2008, 12:23 AM
I've only coached U14 and it was just for one year so I doubt I'd be much help, especially given the huge disparity between U9/U10 playing environment and U14.
Chief Rum
09-12-2008, 12:28 AM
Here's a tutorial:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384642/
Cringer
09-12-2008, 12:35 AM
Get Mike Ditka? Will have to work on that one.....
BishopMVP
09-12-2008, 12:58 AM
Sorry, I've only helped coach U14-JV level before. (I honestly thought U-10 was only 7v7, but maybe that's a regional difference.) Going off reffing a few small-sided games in the past and coaching youth lacrosse teams, I'd recommend the following.
The most important thing at that age is to make sure the kids have fun and want to continue playing/improving their game. It sounds like you'll get an hour a week at most for practice, so any kids that markedly improve skillsets will do so on their own at home (strongly encourage them all to do this - juggle a little, kick against a wall, but they'll only do so on their own if they're having fun and enjoy playing, which is why that's step 1). Tactically, I'd say do your best to make them spread out and look to pass to an open person, any open person. Their natural impulse will pretty much all be to swarm the ball and run straight at goal with it, so do what you can to make sure some kids are opening up as an outlet, and make sure that it rewarded by receiving a pass - it'll encourage more of it. My one favorite drill for that age level has always been 2v1's/3v2's. 50% or more of team sports is find the open teammate and get them the ball, plus there are lots of goals which are fun. For defense, it's get between your man and the goal or get between the ball and the goal (which I'm always surprised is so difficult to grasp.)
Knowing South Texas, if your team happens to be heavily hispanic and knows the game/has advanced skills compared to what I described you can try introducing diagonal runs, overlapping, triangles and tracking back/filling space vacated by defenders pushing up, but from your league description I doubt that'll be the case.
Cringer
09-12-2008, 01:51 AM
Sorry, I've only helped coach U14-JV level before. (I honestly thought U-10 was only 7v7, but maybe that's a regional difference.) Going off reffing a few small-sided games in the past and coaching youth lacrosse teams, I'd recommend the following.
The most important thing at that age is to make sure the kids have fun and want to continue playing/improving their game. It sounds like you'll get an hour a week at most for practice, so any kids that markedly improve skillsets will do so on their own at home (strongly encourage them all to do this - juggle a little, kick against a wall, but they'll only do so on their own if they're having fun and enjoy playing, which is why that's step 1). Tactically, I'd say do your best to make them spread out and look to pass to an open person, any open person. Their natural impulse will pretty much all be to swarm the ball and run straight at goal with it, so do what you can to make sure some kids are opening up as an outlet, and make sure that it rewarded by receiving a pass - it'll encourage more of it. My one favorite drill for that age level has always been 2v1's/3v2's. 50% or more of team sports is find the open teammate and get them the ball, plus there are lots of goals which are fun. For defense, it's get between your man and the goal or get between the ball and the goal (which I'm always surprised is so difficult to grasp.)
Knowing South Texas, if your team happens to be heavily hispanic and knows the game/has advanced skills compared to what I described you can try introducing diagonal runs, overlapping, triangles and tracking back/filling space vacated by defenders pushing up, but from your league description I doubt that'll be the case.
Yes, having fun is key here. I want these kids to enjoy it, especially the ones who have little experience, and to want to keep playing. I have pretty much decided (so good to hear you would agree kind of) that the two main things I want the kids to improve on is ball control and teamwork/passing/spreading out. The defensive tip is a good one, I hadn't thought much about it yet.
And yes, being I live where I live, the whole team is hispanic looking at the names on the roster. :D Only my daughter is half hispanic. The age gap will play into it as well with the combined age groups. One boy is 10 in a few days, while the youngest two boys are not 9 until next spring.
cthomer5000
09-12-2008, 06:54 AM
quick aside:
You're living the dream of coaching your daughters team, but the other dad is an asshole for not wanting to coach a team his son isn't on?
Cringer
09-12-2008, 10:02 AM
quick aside:
You're living the dream of coaching your daughters team, but the other dad is an asshole for not wanting to coach a team his son isn't on?
The other dad is an asshole because he won't let his son play at all unless he is coaching him. I would not do that to my daughter if I had not been able to be a coach her team. This guy volunteered, was assigned a team (in a different age group that needed a coach badly) and he won't do that now either. He left a team without a coach 2 days before a scrimmage, and his son won't play at all. Yes he is an asshole.
PilotMan
09-12-2008, 10:29 AM
Having watched my oldest son play through this age group I have some idea of what to expect here.
Here are my tips:
Keep practice moving fast. If kids are waiting for anything you aren't doing something well enough.
At this age, try and get the kids to look up and recognize where their teammates are. You will find that one good ball player can dominate the game. And that you can improve your whole team if they can see each other across the field.
Get them to talk to each other. Half the battle of finding someone is knowing where they are. As well as calling out defenders approaching.
Get them to know their positions. Some will, and some won't, but one of my biggest issues is kids who won't stay in the general vicinity of their position.
Get them to move to space to receive a pass. Bunching in the middle of the field will be all you see at the start of the season. if you can get them to make space, and work the outside and inside, you will have better success.
SSG are the best way to go with this. I had a big book with a lot of games in it. You should be able to find good info on line as well. If you want, shoot me a PM and let me know what you are looking for. I will see if I can send you anything that would help.
Cringer
09-12-2008, 10:56 AM
Thanks PilotMan, good stuff. As for the SSGs, I think I have that covered. footy4kids (english site) has a crap load of them, and even age specific ones.
I think tomorrow I will just give them some words about staying apart and communicating (good reminder you gave me there). As for positions that will have to hold off until practices next week.
MizzouRah
09-12-2008, 11:07 AM
I coach U14 girls recreation and U13 girls competitive..
U9 - U10 should be idential as far as rules go.. both are 8v8, both use a size 4 soccer ball, 25 min halves.. etc..
You can google soccer drills and find some really good drills, but I will help you out any way I can.
JediKooter
09-12-2008, 11:37 AM
That one dad who they kicked out, his last name doesn't happen to be Manning is it?
Cringer
09-12-2008, 11:50 AM
I coach U14 girls recreation and U13 girls competitive..
U9 - U10 should be idential as far as rules go.. both are 8v8, both use a size 4 soccer ball, 25 min halves.. etc..
You can google soccer drills and find some really good drills, but I will help you out any way I can.
Same except 20 minute halves here. Knocked down a little for the age maybe. A good thing too, because we have 10 players right now with 8 being on the field at all times that means everyone really gets a chance to play. We might get 1 or 2 more added but I don't know yet.
RPI-Fan
09-12-2008, 12:36 PM
At that age level the most important thing, BY FAR, is individual skills. Without individual ball skills you can't implement any useful teamwork anyways. The single most useful kids that age can learn to do is be a master on the ball and be able and willing to take players on 1v1 in the open field.
Tasan
09-12-2008, 01:24 PM
Footwork, ballwork, 1v1, and basic goalie skills. I've coached 4/5s and 5/6s so far, and you've got to make sure the basics are there before anything else can happen. With 9s, I'd hope you would be there, but you never know. I'd start early with making sure basics are there, and then start passing and basic defense concepts, but you've got to make sure you don't overload the young ones.
Radii
09-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Footwork, ballwork, 1v1, and basic goalie skills. I've coached 4/5s and 5/6s so far, and you've got to make sure the basics are there before anything else can happen. With 9s, I'd hope you would be there, but you never know. I'd start early with making sure basics are there, and then start passing and basic defense concepts, but you've got to make sure you don't overload the young ones.
I don't know a ton about soccer but I was an assistant to a very good coach for ~8 year old boys a couple years back. The individual skills are probably the most important thing you can work on. That age was really the first time I saw anyone try to teach the kids proper technique when learning how to shoot(as opposed to kick the crap out of the ball in the general direction of the net). Teamwork/Positioning related things that were stressed and that these kids were able to get at this age:
- On defense, close down all open space. Attack the man with the ball.
- On offense, find open space, get away from defenders.
- General positions and their roles were discussed. Staying on the left/right side of the field, staying further back as a defender, staying further up as a forward.
- The importance of passing the ball is starting to be understood. At age 6 its still all kids converging on the ball, by age 8 many of the kids are starting to understand that you can't do that and try to get open for a pass instead.
Those all seemed to be things that were nearly impossible to teach to 6/7 year olds, but great progress was made with 8/9 year olds.
MacroGuru
09-12-2008, 01:42 PM
One suggestion, you see me on the field as the ref...be prepared...for the Red Card...cause I already know how you talk to people in Authority! :devil:
I honestly red carded a goalie and her father in a game. U12, it was CRAZY!
Cringer
09-12-2008, 02:09 PM
lol. I think I can keep things civil with a referee. Pretty sure......
cubboyroy1826
09-12-2008, 02:25 PM
Cringer welcome to the club. I coach both my son and my daughter's U10 teams and love it. I just wish there was a little more strategy you could use but we are just now using the offside rule this week so it should be interesting. If the league is an AYSO league you should be able to go to their site and get the rules but here is a decent site for drills.
U10 games and drills (http://www.footy4kids.co.uk/U10_practice_games.htm)
There are a couple of other sites that i get drills from but i will have to look those up. The biggest difference in AYSO going from U8 to U10 was the size of the field. I really try to make sure there is very little dead time so that while constantly moving they are building up stamina and don't even know it. If you can get the kids to understand spacing and passing you will be ahead of most.
tarcone
09-12-2008, 07:18 PM
Find a parent that has strengths where you are week and get them to coach with you.
I help coach my daughters 8U team. I know very little about soccer but am good with kids. the HC knows a lot about soccer (or a lot more then me) but isnt as strong with the kids. Works great.
I coach both daughters in softball and basketball and my oldest in soccer. It is a great time and I love spending time with them this way. Im glad you get the chance to do it.
bhlloy
09-12-2008, 07:53 PM
I feel your pain. I got suckered into coaching a U12 girls AYSO team because my brother in law is the regional co-ordinator, and it's not as easy as it looks.
My wife and I have both played all our lives (her at a really high level, me not so much) but we are way out of our depth. We have a couple of kids who are downright disruptive, and if they are in a stupid mood, it's a real struggle to get anything done at practice.
That being said, we have a lot of really talented girls even though I haven't got them to play as a team yet. First friendly game is tomorrow... should be interesting.
Godzilla Blitz
09-12-2008, 09:05 PM
I've found the DVD Super Soccer Skills (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Soccer-Skills-Dan-Metcalfe/dp/B000CELOEU) pretty helpful for me in coaching U7 boys.
Got it from Netflix.
GoldenEagle
09-12-2008, 10:30 PM
Are you sure it is 8v8? Around here, most people play 6v6 in U10. I find that in younger age groups, doing things repetitively really helps. Also, focusing on just one topic per practice will do wonders. So if you are working on individual defending, only make corrections about individual defending.
The organization that I coach with is a classic organization so our focus is a bit different with u10 players. We place no emphasis on winning and everything on development. It seems to do well when the kids get ready to play classic at u11.
And don't just scrimmage. Kids love scrimmaging, so reserve the last 30 minutes of practice for it. But don't give into the kids who will beg you just to let them scrimmage the entire time they are at practice.
MizzouRah
09-13-2008, 09:51 AM
Same except 20 minute halves here. Knocked down a little for the age maybe. A good thing too, because we have 10 players right now with 8 being on the field at all times that means everyone really gets a chance to play. We might get 1 or 2 more added but I don't know yet.
I guess it varies because it's definitely 25 min halves for that age group where I live... and that's with 10 players as well.
We now play 35 min halves for U13 and U14.
Our first competitive game is today!!! We are a U13 team, but are playing up on U14 this year - I can't wait to see them on that field today. We have worked so hard and after a rainout last week I can finally see them in action!
Cringer
09-13-2008, 01:27 PM
So I got home an hour ago or so and am ready to report on Day 1. :)
YIKES! I pretty much know this is how it happens, at least down here, so I am not real surprised. The first year coach gets a lot of the first/second year players. Our scrimmage game was set to begin at 10 am, so I wanted everyone there at 9 so we get meet and go through some things. This next part was expected somewhat as well, 9 am comes around and there are 4 kids including my own. I start them on some simple dribbling drill and as we finish that and move on to a couple other things more kids start coming in. We had 7 and finally at 10 #8 showed up. Then #9 showed up late and not able to play with no soccer shoes or anything. #10 never showed.
I will cut to this now, the team we were to play never showed up. I was getting ready to let them just scrimmage until 20 minutes into our game time the league director came up and said he had a team for us to play. It was a team in our division that was practicing and only had 6 players there. We agree to make it a short scrimmage game of 30 minutes, play on. I find out later from the brother of one of my players that knows the other coach, most of that team has been playing together for 4 years. It was U-G-L-Y, UGLY! Halfway through the scrimmage the other coach came around to me and asked if his goalkeeper could play for us so he could get some experience. :D I said sure.
So, problems identified right away:
Fitness levels, there is none. No stamina at all. Part of the problem was the practice before hand, and I tried to keep them at low levels for that but it wasn't always possible. Still, about halfway through our scrimmage I had kids asking to come out for a rest, and the others were walking way too much. There is only 1 kid, the oldest girl and a first year player, who I would call actually fat. A couple of the boys may be a little on the....uh, soft side. Not fat or even chunky, but not fit either.
Technically I have only 1 kid who hasn't played soccer before, yet it turns out most of them had little idea about the basic rules and structure of a soccer game. Lots of work needed there. I hate to spend time with a lot of talking about how things are to work in a game, but it will need to be done I guess.
Teamwork. There was none at all really, and I really expected that since they all just met an hour before. There were times when I was pleased though with the communication some of them attempted at least, as I had told them to do.
Goalies. We don't have one. A couple have played a little, but the ones who are most enthusiastic about it have no experience. I will need to work on goalkeeping, what the keeper should do in certain situations, and to go along with that how the team should react when their keeper has the ball and needs to distribute it.
Passing and dribbling just plain need work. This, along with basics, will have to be my focus in our two practices this week. It goes along with team work and individual ball control skills. Everyone on the team needs work in these areas so I will be doing drills and mini-games for these I guess.
Overall, I think I can really help these kids improve while enjoying the game. They are eager to play, and despite the heavy pressure from the other team they did real well defending the first half of the game. It was when they got worn down is when they started to give up goals. Lots of work is needed though....lots.
MizzouRah
09-13-2008, 07:02 PM
You are on your way Cringer!
We lost 5-0 today in our first competitive game.. we're playing up one year, but I didn't expect this whoopin today.
Cringer
09-18-2008, 10:38 AM
So after two practices this week the next time my team gets together is Saturday for our first real game. I honestly have no idea how we will do but I am pretty excited to find out. I think the first two practices had mixed results. Monday was a very solid practice with focus of moving with the ball, passing, and spreading out some. The bad part was 3 boys were missing.
We had our second practice last night, with all 10 players there. Since I had all 10 there I did what I wanted to do on Monday, and that was force the kids to listen to me talk for a bit. I went over some basics of soccer rules, what happens and why in a game, and then basic movement of soccer positions. They needed this bad, and it will help with the game some on Saturday just so they know what is happening a little more then they did for the scrimmage the other day. We went onto protecting the ball after that, showing them how to shield the ball to give them enough time to pass, then divided them up so they could play keep-away. Finished with a 5v5 scrimmage.
The good and the bad. One of they boys, Angel, was with us for the first time yesterday. And I am glad to have him on the team. He speaks very little english but so far that is not a problem as he seems to be able to pick things up, and if not then most of the team speaks both spanish and english anyways and can help. So this kid was one of the first to show up for practice and he, my daughter, and another girl took shots on goal with me as goalie. This kid has a rocket of a kick, hardest/fastest on the team by far. He was letting it get too high half the time though and I showed him how to keep it down and he was drilling it chest high on me the rest of the time. Chest high on me is head high on an 8-10 year old, so the other team better have a damn good goalie if he can get a shot. Getting him shots is something I don't know if it will happen... lol.
My other problem is goalie. Three kids are volunteering for the job, and I plan on playing two a game. The three volunteering? The smallest (and quietest) boy and girl, and the bigger girl. I am going to play two of them the first game, because I asked who wanted to and they were the eager ones. I just don't know if it will turn out well...
Having a blast overall. I wish I could get them out there for more practices because I am having fun with it and they are as well.
MizzouRah
09-18-2008, 12:21 PM
Get that defense going so your goalies face fewer shots.. :)
Cringer
09-18-2008, 12:44 PM
Get that defense going so your goalies face fewer shots.. :)
I am working on it. Tried to do it some yesterday with the keep-away drill to focus on ball control/passing between 2-3 people while the defender is getting work on taking away the ball.
I already plan to have a 1v1 drill on Monday to work on challenging for the ball. I will look tonight and tomorrow to see what else I want to do on Monday.
MizzouRah
09-19-2008, 02:32 PM
We have an off week this weekend (my competitive team).. sucks because the weather is so good..
At least I have Sunday's game for my rec team.
Cringer
09-20-2008, 11:25 AM
So, not counting the 'scrimmage' last week, we just had our first real game. It didn't go so well, we lost 5-1.
It started out as an even game, with a lot of back and forth play. Then I am not real sure what happened except the the other team finally was able to take advantage of our weaknesses and got a couple goals. We got one back and then we gave up another three over the rest of the game. We missed a couple really good opportunities for goals in the second half, but each time the kid with the ball never had any support. One negative is we didn't have one player there, the kid who has a rocket kick.
We had a couple weaknesses that were very obvious to me. First, our defense was better but horrible. It comes down to four players, including my own daughter, who just are not moving at all. My daughter practices with me, she is active, moving, trying to get the ball from me. In the first half though she was a defender who wasn't defending, she just stood there a lot of the time. The 'large' girl is the same, but even worse. I was able to get my daughter to do better in the second half, the other girl didn't even want to play. (And I was being encouraging, I wasn't yelling, complaining or anything, she basically said her ankle hurt and didn't want to go back out there). The third girl just joined our team today, so she had limited playing time and she has never played so she wasn't real comfortable not knowing anyone or anything about soccer.
The 4th kid is a boy. He is the smallest boy, very quiet a lot of the time. He wants to play goalie and since he had been saying all week he did and no one else wanted to I let him play the 2nd half. He was horrible. Afraid of the ball, can't kick, barely moves, kicked the ball right to the other team on a goal kick. I had another player asking to be goalie right away in the 2nd half, I could tell none of the other boys wanted him playing goalie. My wife said the parents wanted him out of goalie. In truth, I didn't want him playing goalie but I wasn't going to make the change when I had told him he would get the chance all week.
If anyone has any good tips on how I can get these types of kids moving, more involved, I would appreciate it. Overall I think we showed improvement, especially when the week before we never got close to the goal much less got shots off. If I can get these kids involved and moving more it would be a big help to the team. As of now I am planning some 1v1 drills for our practices this week, and some more defending and ball control stuff. Really, I am not sure what else I can do but to emphasize going after the ball (1v1 drills for this), protecting and controlling the ball, and good defense. Tips are more then welcome though, because as of right now I feel more down then the kids I think because I feel I am/was missing something in what I should be teaching them or how.
JonInMiddleGA
09-20-2008, 01:01 PM
There's a bit of a delay before you see the improvement but I'd consider this
If anyone has any good tips on how I can get these types of kids moving, more involved, I would appreciate it.
http://www.stungunstuff.com/images/_Taser_C2_pic4_.jpg
... because as of right now I feel more down than the kids I think because I feel I am/was missing something in what I should be teaching them or how.
Okay, this may not be what you want to hear and I definitely could have the wrong impression but it's what I'm thinking after following the thread. It sounds to me like you've got quite a few kids who really aren't interested in being out there and if that's the case then you damned well shouldn't be beating yourself up over their lack of performance. I'll gladly leave it to those who know soccer to address specific things you might do to improve the performance of those who are actually interested & willing to work but I felt like somebody needed to cut off any attempt for you to take the blame for something you aren't responsible for. Feel free to punish yourself for the soccer stuff you might mess up on ;)
tarcone
09-20-2008, 01:17 PM
2 lines and one ball. roll ball towards goal. whoever gets ball is offense and the other is defense. gets kids to attack the ball. one on one.
We had the same problem last week.
Cringer
09-20-2008, 01:24 PM
There's a bit of a delay before you see the improvement but I'd consider this
http://www.stungunstuff.com/images/_Taser_C2_pic4_.jpg
Okay, this may not be what you want to hear and I definitely could have the wrong impression but it's what I'm thinking after following the thread. It sounds to me like you've got quite a few kids who really aren't interested in being out there and if that's the case then you damned well shouldn't be beating yourself up over their lack of performance. I'll gladly leave it to those who know soccer to address specific things you might do to improve the performance of those who are actually interested & willing to work but I felt like somebody needed to cut off any attempt for you to take the blame for something you aren't responsible for. Feel free to punish yourself for the soccer stuff you might mess up on ;)
I wanted a taser at one point. :D
As for the 2nd part, maybe. I know my daughter wants to play, she loves it. But for whatever reason she was totally different in the game then she is at home or was in practice even. It wasn't until I told her to relax and have fun like at home that she started to do a little more. The bigger girl, I think you may be right. She likes the idea of soccer, but when she actually has to do it and move a lot she doesn't want to do that. The cheese covered nachos her mom was buying her at 11 AM after the game doesn't help I am sure. The 3rd girl, I don't know yet. She is a late arrival, just got placed on my team last night and so I think she felt out of place being the new comer to both the team and the game. The smallish boy, he loves it from what I see. Whenever he is talking to me it's about soccer. From what the mom has told my wife he was a bit wild in the past and he was under strict orders not to be aggressive last year. I find it hard to imagine, because he is the complete opposite now. Perhaps he is medicated...... :confused:
I think I am just going to stay the course for now. I will work on things I plan on improving, make things fun, and try to encourage the slackers to pick it up a little in as constructive a way as possible. I am thinking some 1v1 drills may help. It will get them used to having to go for the ball more instead of waiting for someone else to do it. That is what I am hoping at least.
JonInMiddleGA
09-20-2008, 01:38 PM
Okay, case by case. Won't be anything profound from me here but maybe just talking through stuff has some value (even when it's stuff you probably already know).
As for the 2nd part, maybe. I know my daughter wants to play, she loves it. But for whatever reason she was totally different in the game then she is at home or was in practice even. It wasn't until I told her to relax and have fun like at home that she started to do a little more.
Sounds like performance anxiety to me. Standing around might have been a function of wanting to avoid a mistake instead of making a play. She's your kid so you'll know whether she might respond to this but I'm thinking maybe of giving her some specific responsibilities/goals off the record. One of those "some of the kids don't have your skills/experience, so I need you to try to do X,Y,Z to help pick up the slack. You'll make some mistakes & some things won't work out as planned but that's okay, I need you to supply some energy & activity while the others are coming up to speed".
The bigger girl, I think you may be right. She likes the idea of soccer, but when she actually has to do it and move a lot she doesn't want to do that. The cheese covered nachos her mom was buying her at 11 AM after the game doesn't help I am sure.
Hence my taser recommendation.
The 3rd girl, I don't know yet. She is a late arrival, just got placed on my team last night and so I think she felt out of place being the new comer to both the team and the game.
My read matches yours FWIW. I wouldn't worry about her performance one bit until after she's got a couple of practices under her belt.
The smallish boy, he loves it from what I see. Whenever he is talking to me it's about soccer. From what the mom has told my wife he was a bit wild in the past and he was under strict orders not to be aggressive last year. I find it hard to imagine, because he is the complete opposite now. Perhaps he is medicated...... :confused:
Hardest of the four to read IMO. With the new info, I'm afraid he may be a case of the spirit being more willing than the flesh is able. And although I'm a complete soccer noob when it comes to youth play, my neophyte reaction is "can you survive with an undersized and underskilled keeper"? And with limited practice time I think there's a legit question of whether there's opportunity to coach him up to adequate.
I am thinking some 1v1 drills may help. It will get them used to having to go for the ball more instead of waiting for someone else to do it.
I like this idea, especially if you have time to rotate everyone through the drill and get a complete round robin look at them. Knowing who will or won't seems just as important as who can or can't, and getting some concrete results of who's better at this might help with positioning/role assignment.
Barkeep49
09-20-2008, 01:47 PM
With girls, I've always read in basketball that getting them to overcome their tendency to want to be "nice" to the other team is important. So when your daughter is practicing with you, she knows it's ok to take the ball and such, but isn't inclined to do it to some strange girl. Now here's where if I had experience coaching girls I could probably offer help, but I don't have that, so can't really be of assistance here.
Cringer
09-20-2008, 02:21 PM
Sounds like performance anxiety to me. Standing around might have been a function of wanting to avoid a mistake instead of making a play. She's your kid so you'll know whether she might respond to this but I'm thinking maybe of giving her some specific responsibilities/goals off the record. One of those "some of the kids don't have your skills/experience, so I need you to try to do X,Y,Z to help pick up the slack. You'll make some mistakes & some things won't work out as planned but that's okay, I need you to supply some energy & activity while the others are coming up to speed".
Good points on the other stuff, but I pick out this one because I think it may be a very good call. I can see the worry of messing up going through my daughters head. It had not clicked with me on this one though and I think it's good advice for a new approach with her. Thanks.
Cringer
10-12-2008, 11:54 AM
Haven't updated this for a few weeks and this is a good week to do it. :D
So out 2nd game went badly, as we lost 4-0. I saw improvement though and felt ok about it. I was worried about how the kids felt though because I didn't want them to get too down about it and about their team. I was happy to have here a couple of the players talk about they thought we did better on the Monday practice after that game though. I think that week I worked on defense and team work in our two practices once again.
So our third game ended in a 0-0 draw, with our best attacking player not there. It seemed a little like a loss afterwards with a couple unhappy faces, but once again on Monday I heard good things being said from the kids to each other about how we would/should have won. We shut out the other team and I was VERY happy about that as we had some really good goalie play as both goalies player their second game and I had worked with them some during the previous week (one being my daughter, yay! :) ).
So, last week I figured we had been doing well with improving our defensive play and figured after two weeks with no goals (and only one for the season) I needed to do something to improve the attack. I set up drills the focused on working together with passing, staying more spaced out, and gave the kids a walk through of all the positions and how they should act.
Yesterday morning we went out and won our first game, 7-1. Those kids went out and frickin' destroyed the other team in every way possible and the one goal the other team got was almost a gift as I had set up the team the last ten minutes so it had two week players as our defenders. (I am also going to use this goal given up as a teaching point this week so I am glad it happened without hurting us).
We had 3 players score two goals each, and for the life of me I can't remember who had the 7th goal. It was fantastic because the team stayed more spread out then they have before, especially our attacking players. We had so many fast breaking counters (with teammates actually running up to support the attack) that the other team had little chance from the start of the game to the end and it us up for some really good shots on goal with some really good goals.
The only part of the game I felt bad for the other team was when it came to one of their players getting injured. We had a break, and the kid with the ball ended up one on one with their goalie. The goalie played it how I would have wanted my goalie to play it, by coming out at him to narrow his shooting window. The problem is our kid with the ball is the hardest kicker on the team, so much so he has nailed it at me once and it stung a little when I caught it. Well, this kid also tends to get the ball up in the air and he drilled it right at the goalie who took the full blow right in the face. He stayed up and it took about 5 seconds before he realized it hurt like hell. He ended up leaving the game.
Anyways, I am very happy for the kids. I could tell some of the boys were a little frustrated with not scoring and not getting a win yet. I have never once emphasized winning to them (I want them to obviously, but I don't say it), and from what I can tell we have a good group of parents thankfully. Now the goal is to keep them moving forward and improving. They will expect to win again next week as we play the same team that we played yesterday, so my goal is to keep them from getting too confident and to work hard to make sure they do. Thankfully I still have several things to coach them up on. I will continue to focus on spacing and working together (even though I was happy to see some great passing yesterday) and will hit up on defense a little again this week.
I still have a couple of players I need to get through to, one of which I probably never will. I have been happy to see 'the fat girl' start to work harder and actually make some good plays. I need to work on the girl my wife has dubbed 'the girlie girl' who is excited about doing sports for the first time but is still so 'girlie' that at one point in the game she was skipping instead of running. The other kid is the small, soft boy. He also provided a laugh out loud moment in the game where he called for a pass when he was wide open and when the other boy passed it up to him he turned away from it and let it bounce off the back of his legs. Glad to see most of them improving though, as it has really made me get even more into coaching them and I think I will be doing this for a long time now.
tarcone
10-12-2008, 05:00 PM
My 3rd grade girls team that plays in the A division. Finally won a game today. We have been losing 4-0 or 11-0 or 7-0, scores like that. But we finally came through and won 4-0. My daughter had her 1st career goal today.
Had to share and this seemed like a good thread.
Cringer
10-12-2008, 05:14 PM
Anyone is free to join in. :)
Congrats to your daughter.
Cringer
10-27-2008, 01:38 PM
So my last update we had just crushed a team for our first win. We came back the next week and lost to the same team 3-1. I knew fromt he get go things would not end up well. The whole team was just not playing their best, a lot of tired kids walking around for some reason, and just lazy play. It was 3-1 at the half, for the first time I got somewhat negative and told them they are not playing as well as they could. They responded in the 2nd half and we had multiple shots compared to only a couple for the other team. None of ours went in though and the 2nd half saw the score remain the same until the end. It was a bad week leading up to the game with a rained out practice and the make up practice only had 4 kids besides my daughter show up. Still the game bugs me still, we should have won that game and it could be important down the road....
So last week at practice we had good attendance, and I lightened it up some by playing a passing game and a 1v1(that expands to 1v2 up to 1v4) game the whole practice. I think it helped and we won Saturday 2-0. We are sitting at 2-3-1 right now and so that last loss bugs me since I feel we should be at 3-2-1. The top two teams go to the playoffs.
We have this weekend off for Parent Appreciation Day (where I will be playing in a parents game) but we still practice this week. Next weekend when we play again we play the #1 team in the league, who we lost 4-0 against the first time we played. We are better now, but this will be a good game to find out how much better we actually are.
Cringer
11-08-2008, 01:26 PM
The season is winding down.....
And I got some good drama today for the first time. :D
First the game. We were playing the best team in the league, undefeated and the coach with some of those players won the league last year as well as came in 2nd in a regional tourny. We lost 4-0 to them the first time we played them. So we start the game and after some back and forth play they play they get a goal, our defense broke down enough and they made a pretty good play IIRC. Then the killer one, the stab through the heart goal happened. This is the first time it has happened to out team this year, we have an own-goal. Our goalie came out to far and got stuck behind his own defender who was trying to move the ball out. She passed it/kicked it over to the other defender who went straight to the bad habit of "OH! BALL! KICK NOW!!!" She wildly swung the leg, it went off the side of her foot, and slooooooooooooooooowly rolled into our goal while the keeper was stuck too far out of the box. We got one back not long after that, had some good chances the rest of the game, but we ended up losing 2-1. Just painful to have it happen that way.
Now the drama. In the 2nd half the other coach (also a league board member) calls me over and asks me if I would say something to the one or two parents from my team who are getting out of hand. Parents have to stay on the other side of the field and I pretty much zone them out, plus their comments tend to be in spanish so I zone it out even more. He tells me that one of them just yelled in spanish for his son "to push the fat girl down." Kind of mean when the kids are right in front of you, not too mention promoting the wrong kind of aggresive play. So I sent the wife over to tell them to stop and after the game Ivan (the other coach/board member) asked me to get my parents together. He talked to them, the offending dad had a fit at first and said they wouldn't be coming back and walked off. One of my best players gone. A bit later Ivan came up to me and let me know he talked to him one on one and he understood the problem now and was coming back.
THEN, I find out from another board member that after Ivan talked to them that she took her kid and went and complained to another board member about me. ME!?!?!? Now this woman speaks spanish only as well, and I am hoping there is confusion because of that. She never said naything to my wife or I though. I guess the complaint was about 3 or 4 weeks ago in a practice when two of the boys started to aggresively push (with intent to knock down) other players in a drill. After a couple of individual warnings they did it to each other at one point and I yelled 'stop' to get everyone to stop and pay attention. I then kicked the two boys out of practice for the rest of the day. Her son was NOT one of those boys, so I am finding the whole thing kind of odd. In fact her son is one of my favorite kids on the team and I have never had to even tell him to stop messing around or anything like that. It's just odd. The crappy thing is she may pull her son fromt he team the last couple of games, and here I am not even knowing what the problem is. The league President is supposed to talk to her so hopefully it works out.
Soccer drama, got to love it. Of course Ivan, talking to him later, then started saying how the drama was 100x worse last year and giving me some stories.
Barkeep49
11-08-2008, 01:51 PM
I tune out the parents myself during games. It's enough to focus on the game in front of me while also trying to communicate with my bench. Hopefully the whole thing dies down quickly and you can end the season on a high note for everyone.
MizzouRah
11-08-2008, 03:53 PM
I probably yell louder than the parents do. ;)
In all seriousness.. that is why I love competitive soccer over recreational soccer, for me when picking kids it's all about the whole package.. kid, parents, and payments on time. :)
We were up today 2-0 and ended up losing 3-2 on a free kick that went off on of our defenders and into our goal.. tough loss.
Indoor starts next week though!!!
Cringer
11-08-2008, 05:23 PM
I probably yell louder than the parents do. ;)
So do I, but we are on different sides of the field from each other so they hear both I am sure. And I usually yell about moving up or staying back or something tactical, not "Knock the fat girl down." :popcorn:
MizzouRah
11-09-2008, 11:02 AM
So do I, but we are on different sides of the field from each other so they hear both I am sure. And I usually yell about moving up or staying back or something tactical, not "Knock the fat girl down." :popcorn:
I say that under my breath.. :p
There is a girl on our team who also wrestles and is fearless.. I call her the "hammer". We play U14 even though we should be playing U13 this year.. some of these U14 kids are rough.. so every now and then I yell.. "drop the hammer" and she looks over and smiles as she turns it up a notch on the girl who just plowed over one of our smaller girls. No yellow cards yet though!
MizzouRah
11-11-2008, 10:16 PM
Today was our last game of the summer outdoor season and I'm so proud of these girls. We totally dominated tonight and I mean dominated.. their goalie made some great saves and we only won 1-0, but I'd guess they had about 5 shots on our goal and the ball on our end about 10 mins tonight.. we were that good.
This team started with alot of rough edges on what we wanted to accomplish with this team and it all paid off tonight as everyone did exactly what we've been teaching for the last 4-5 months.
Three girls are sitting out for the indoor session that starts up Sunday.. but once spring rolls around, we should have them back along with 2-3 kids that came to practice and want to play outdoor with us this spring.
I love indoor, can't wait until our first game!
Cringer
11-11-2008, 10:47 PM
Indoor would be cool, but we don't have it and I think I will have enough soccer in my life I guess to cover me until the spring. I need to get to working on the local club's website and get more then a front page up, and I am going to get paid to do the regional soccer association's site. Registration starts in December for the spring league, my wife is a board member now, we still have two games left plus a December tourny (pay to play, for charity, so I hope enough of my kids can be in it).
And with a new kid on the way it looks like I am in this stuff for a long time still when I was thinking I only had a few years of it. :D
MizzouRah
11-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Good for you!
I love indoor.. I guess that's the hockey fan in me. :D
MizzouRah
12-12-2008, 08:18 PM
Well, we are 3-0 on this young indoor season and tomorrow we play another 3-0 team... but it really pisses me off the game is at 6:30am :rant:
I mean, seriously.. we are playing about 40 mins away, so 5:00 is going to come quick.
Crazy...
Cringer
02-14-2009, 10:23 PM
Ok, so it seems I keep getting sucked into the youth soccer world more and more. My wife actually took a board position with our local club back in the fall, just to help out. Since then, along with me doing the website for them and doing the website for the regional Association we have been sucked in full force by now with the spring season approaching. It is going to get worse though, which might be a good thing or might not....
The club President has some serious problems. His communication skills are pretty bad. He gets people together, they all agree on something, and then he will tell parents whatever he feels like when he talks to them. Registration has had signs of progress over last fall, but then there are still the same stupid mistakes. We have become tight with the Club Secretary, and one of her big concerns is where all the $$ the club brings in is going (basically is he using it in stupid ways only, or is he using it for personal use as well?) The Club VP is a joke, and only really has anything to do with referees. No one even knows if the Club Treasury is alive (which goes back to the $$ again since there seems to be this refusal from the Pres. to replace the guy who no one else on the board has seen in a year). I am supposed to be just a coach but with my wife, found myself calling lists of parents to get them to renew for the Spring season. The Club is in bad standing with the regional Association, owing them money (there is that $$ question again), somewhere in the thousands category. My wife mentioned to the President about moving me in as VP, which I guess he seemed ok with so we will see what happens there.
Today though, while my wife and I sat at the soccer fields so people could register, the Secretary (and then got my wife backing her) started saying I should go after the President position, that his contract/term is up soon with it only being for two years. Oi! I am not sure about that one, as I question my knowledge of the youth soccer world. Crap, I won't be getting my E coaching license until next month. Still, the amount of displeasure voiced to me from parents with the orginization of the league kind of helps the case for it.
So, I wrote an email to the Regional Association President, whom I work with for their website. I told him I want to meet with him in the next two-three weeks to talk about website stuff as well as 'other things' not associated with the site. I guess I will start fishing for some information from him, and see exactly how things work. I think this will be interesting, since he has no contact from anyone at our club except the Pres, who has refused to give the Secretary his contact info even. I am sure he doesn't know how things look from this side of things, and I wonder how it looks from his side. The $$ questions may be brought up but I am not sure yet. It will in a way just because of some of my questions as I fish for info.
That's the end of my rant, or my evil plans, whatever it may be. I am not thrilled about it really but I also see something that should be running like a business being run like someone's personal club, and there is really no one right now locally who would step up to try to right the ship.
cartman
02-14-2009, 10:47 PM
Grow your beard back for maximum intimidation points.
Cringer
02-14-2009, 10:57 PM
Grow your beard back for maximum intimidation points.
I haven't shaved since October. :D
cartman
02-14-2009, 11:46 PM
I haven't shaved since October. :D
They don't stand a chance.
Marc Vaughan
02-15-2009, 11:31 AM
I've just completed my first ever season coaching a kids U9 3v3 team.
The team had never even met before their first match and predictably got hammered the first couple of weeks, the team only had two players who could really play, an English kid who had some talent but was a tad selfish and a girl called bailey who had limited control but one hell of a hard kick.
Two other players were enthustiatic and reasonably mobile, then there was my son who was enthustic but not so mobile (one of the reason I've encouraged him to join up is that he doesn't get enough exercise).
After the first week we've done weekly training sessions for around 45 minutes where the kids practice basic passing and movement before they play a quick match (normally involving all of them vs whatever parents have been ill-advised enough to turn up :D).
The team has been 'managed' with the intent to give everyone a decent amount of playing time regardless of ability and I've tried to ensure that the kids are good losers as well as good winners.
Despite our rocky start after a training session or two and some very basic crude tactics we started getting results, indeed for the final few weeks we were unbeaten until yesterday when we played the final two games of the season.
In the first game we played a side which as unbeaten last season, our two best players were late so we fielded all our weaker players at once - despite this we went a goal ahead and better still it was my son scoring his first goal of the season :D
The team went onto win the match 6-5 with Jake clocking up two goals :D
The best game was yet to come though - throughout the season the teams played well together and I've tried to encourage them to be unselfish - now Jake had scored there was only one player left on the side who hadn't done so during the season ... and for the first time ever his dad was there to watch him play.
While he was off talking to his dad I asked the other players to try and give him a chance to score if possible, I told them he'd worked hard and often set the better players up to score so this was their turn to try and help him score.
We lost the match 1-3 but it was fantastic to watch the kids try their hardest and also the way in which they tried to help him score, he didn't but his team-mates really tried hard to be unselfish and ensure he got a few chances and most importantly didn't hold it against him when he missed - I was more proud of them for their effort and loss than I had been for any of the victories they'd achieved previously.
I'm back to England for work later today and don't know if the team will remain in place for next season - but I hope so and would definitely recommend coaching to anyone who gets the opportunity.
I found it truly terrifying at first, but ended up really enjoying it - as someone who originally wanted to become a teacher its probably as close as I'll ever get to that and its been great watching the team learn and grow.
MizzouRah
02-15-2009, 11:35 AM
I just want some decent weather so we can practice outdoors. :(
Izulde
02-15-2009, 11:43 AM
I found it truly terrifying at first, but ended up really enjoying it
Sums up my youth soccer coaching experience perfectly.
I have to admit, I miss it, especially since I flew solo.
MizzouRah
03-02-2009, 09:22 PM
Well, we have had around 4 practices since February and we play our first game tomorrow. We have 18 girls on this team, plus an "at large" girl who just moved here. The funny thing is, we only have one girl who doesn't fit the age matrix for U13, so we either cut her and play at U13 or keep her and play U14. We talked to the parents and decided to keep her and play up - U14. I think it's a good thing as this kid is good and she has been with me for many years.
It's going to be about 38 degrees though and that sucks!!! :)
We have one 5th grader on this team who is a blast to watch and we picked up a 7th grader who is a striker, something we needed big time last summer. I'm really pumped up!
Cringer
03-06-2009, 12:14 PM
Among a ton of things that have been happening in my little soccer world, I am now coaching a 2nd team this spring due to a lack of coaches for the older kids. I am taking on a 13/14 year old team. Getting my E License this week so that should help me out some with this new team. I filled in for a guy last night coaching a practice of 11-13 year olds and the difference between the 9-10 year olds I am used to was very noticeable.
It's like with the 9-10 year olds I am trying to construct the machine out of odd parts. With the older kids the machine is built, I just needed to give it oil and and fuel for it to run smoothly.
DaddyTorgo
03-06-2009, 01:29 PM
what's happened with the club cringer?
Cringer
03-06-2009, 04:19 PM
heh. I started to type that out and stopped myself earlier.
I met with the regional President a week or so ago now and we talked for 2-3 hours, mostly about my local club. Without hesitation he started saying how unhappy is is with my local club board and how they are going down the path the previous board went down, which got them kicked out two years ago by the same regional Pres. and board. We compared notes on things, he sent me the club's Bylaws which should be public and are not, he also sent me the the meeting minutes and sumaries from two years ago when the last club board was dismissed and the new Pres. placed. The regional Pres. said they (regional board) would have a meeting with the local club board sometime not far down the road and probably start with taking away player registration directly with the club and have it go through them. There are serious money questions since the club has not been paying up to those above them like they should (we are talking several thousands of dollars at this point). They also have not been registering players into the system with STYSA like they should, which creates insurance liabilites for everyone I guess.
In the end I have dived further in and if things continue bad then there will probably be a change. I am actually trying to work for things to get better though, so if the local Pres. doesn't listen to advice he will probably seal his own ousting. My wife and I basically took on the roll of half the board this week with helping him fix the rosters/returning players mess, a couple of nights lasting until 2 AM just for that. I also had a fiasco in which I tried to coach just my team Wed. and ended up with almost 30 kids as no other team had heard from a coach. So trying to handle all those kids while answering calls from unhappy parents, parents wanting to register, and talking face to face with unhappy/confused parents. After an hour of that I drove across town and while throwing several F-bombs at the guy told him the roster/coach situation needs to be finished (resulting in the last couple of long nights). Since my wife and I have done so much phone work and such, we now have half the parents of 500 kids coming to us for their info, as well as coaches coming to me to find out what they want to know.
I figure down the road one of two things happen. 1) The club gets straightened out enough so it's organized and more efficient and the current Pres. keeps on going with more help or 2) It gets the boot at some point and I probably end up as President seeing how quickly I have already become a go-to for so many people and the regional guy is very comfortable with me.
Either one works for me actually, as long as the club gets better and not something that is a posterboard for how things should NOT be done. The way it is now won't work too much longer.
Cringer
03-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Just spent most of the last three days getting my E license. They are holding a D license course down here in the summer but I think I will pass on that and hopefully they hold another one down here in a year, two at most (I say that because it has been two years since they last held a D license course down here). I am pretty sure in a year or so I will want the D license enough to go through twice the amount of what I just did.
King of New York
03-08-2009, 07:53 PM
In the first game we played a side which as unbeaten last season, our two best players were late so we fielded all our weaker players at once - despite this we went a goal ahead and better still it was my son scoring his first goal of the season :D
The team went onto win the match 6-5 with Jake clocking up two goals :D
Admit it, you were screaming "Jake Vaughn is having an absolute stormer!" throughout the match.
Cringer
03-22-2009, 12:43 PM
Finally, we got some spring games in! Our first week was postponed last week because of two days of non-stop rain killing the fields. So week two turned into week one. I have two teams I coach now so I will do a quick recap of each I guess.
First game up was my daughter's coed 9/10 team. Talk about a crazy game. I have high hopes for this team because we added three new girls from the fall, as well as three new boys. Total roster is twelve. Game was to start at 9:00 AM yesterday, and the players were showing up very slowly. We are supposed to play 8v8 w/ GK, we ended up playing 6v6. The kicker was because of no-shows I had 4 girls and 2 boys, the other team was all boys. One boy I had is a damn good player, the other is so small he could pass for a 6 year old. Technically the other team should play a man down because they had no girls, but we went even up. It was a bit rough as the girls were intimidate at first, and we went down 2-0 fairly quick. My daughter, in goal, calmed down and started making plays though, as did the girls in the field. The 'star' boy was able to start making an impact with the help and we started pressing. Then this kid got hurt halfway through the first half, bad enough that I had to go pick him up and carry him off the field and I then had to watch his mom try to help him get to the car (called last night and he is doing ok, it was his knee but he seems to have bounced back already). We had another girl show up right when he got injured so she went in, it was now 5 girls/1 small boy versus 6 boys. We gave up another goal to go down 3-0. Then the girls turned it on before the half and we controlled the ball and managed to get a goal to send it to half 3-1. At halftime I had another boy show up and I probably made a mistake here when I put him in so we could play 7v7, instead of keeping it 6v6 and giving me 1 sub to use. The team became extremely gassed at the end, combined with my daughter's hand getting hurt while making a play and having to take her out of goal for someone with no experience, the last 8 minutes of the game saw us give up 3 more goals to get crushed 6-1. Overall though I was very happy with the team on the field. They played their hearts out, and they played fairly well under the circumstances for most of the game. I saw some nice passing. My daughter tends to over think when she distributes the ball while in goal, meaning she takes too long usually, but she overall was much better there then in fall. She even threw the ball over two opponents heads on one play which gave us a break down field. One girl, who in the fall would only try to kick the ball if it came to her had some great dribbling action down the side of the field. Add our boys into the mix to make things a little more even in physical abilities and this team should be winning more games then not this season I think.
My older team played at 11:00 AM, and it was a mess because I didn't know if I really had a team. Because of the club president and his inability to decide things before they are a problem I didn't get even a partial list of players for this team. This team is 11-13 year olds because of the lack of players to keep them separate. So we had 4 players at game time, we borrowed one from the other team, and borrowed another from a travel team not playing yesterday. Turns out one girls has never played soccer, so the fact we didn't have a chance to practice before a game sure sucked for her. The good thing was the roster grew as the game went on. One boy has a friend who we registered and he will practice with us this week. We also got a girl I am very excited to coach. She played in my daughters 9/10 division in the fall, but is pretty well advanced of the other girls in that age and she was moved up for the spring. She started playing with us at the half. The interesting thing was how she locked up and didn't do much. I asked her if she was intimidated because it wasn't the Jags (her old team) and she said yes. I think once the roster gets fixed this week and we have our actual team and some practices, this will be a fun team to work with.
Cringer
04-04-2009, 08:55 PM
I may have to retire, I clearly suck. My two teams are now a combined 0-6 to start the season. My 9/10 team lost 3-2 today, and I am kicking myself because it should have been a 2-1 win. We gave up an own goal and another goal on horrible play from the goalie. The crappy part is the goalie was my daughter, who seemed to brush it off but at the same time has said she doesn't want to play goalie for at least a week or so. The team kicked butt otherwise. My older team was horrible, with half the players newbie girls and only one sub on a hot day as two of the boys didn't show up. They fought hard but got crushed 6-0.
Not a season so far.
Cringer
05-09-2009, 01:46 PM
Finished the regular season today (tournament left for all rec teams). After the bad 0-4 start my daughter's team finished strong with 3 wins and 1 draw in the final four games. Today they started down 2-0 early and came back to win 4-2. I am damn proud of those kids, just a great end to the season.
The older kids lost again today, their only win of the season being a forfeit last week. They were in a rough spot from the start though with mostly first time soccer players and few boys. They tried hard and improved, and seemed to enjoy themselves, so overall it wasn't a total failure.
I am a little disappointed the season is over, though a break will be nice I guess. I got attached to my daughter's team though, going to stink I can't have them all again in the fall. Since some of the boys will be moving up to U11 though I should be able to have some of them on one team and a few on my daughter's team again I guess.
Cringer
05-21-2009, 10:57 PM
The season has been extended. El Tigres (my daughter's team) played our two tournament games the last two nights. Last night was against a team we played only once before and beat 3-1. The kids were disappointed to end in a 2-2 draw. Up 2-1 with about a minute before the final whistle and a free kick went off the goalies finger tips above his head to tie it up. I acted as I always do, let them know they did well (even though they were a little sloppy after some time off) but right away they were just deflated and really took it as a loss.
Tonight we played Pachuca, the team who steamrolled the league their first 6 games until we beat them 1-0 towards the end of the season. They beat us 6-1 the first game of the year. After they lost to us they lost the next week, then lost last night in 1-0 in the tournament. They have a good team, great GK, but they just weren't clicking I guess. We came out, it was a tough game for a bit and then we got two goals before the half. Finished up winning the game 4-0. A win and a draw equals 4 points and enough to make it to the Finals next week. The kids went crazy.
The kicker was the other team was all boys except 1 girl. They had 9 players show up (we play 8v8) while I had 8. No subs, four of my players girls. Those four girls played the games of their lives, literally. All four of them really stepped it up this game and played at a higher level then they had. I was just sad that our 5th girl missed it tonight after being with us last night.
Thursday is the Final. We play a team who we split with this season in two games. The coach is also a great guy so I am pretty happy our teams both made it. Will be a fun time. Kids don't know they get trophies for being 1st or 2nd yet, so they will love that.
Cringer
05-27-2009, 09:55 PM
9/10 kids lost in the Final tonight, a heartbreaking 2-1. They got their trophies though, and we lost to the only team I can get over losing to I think, good kids, good guy for coach.
Now myself and that same coach we went against tonight will start working towards a U11 travel team for the fall with a lot of the U10 boys who played tonight on both sides. And of course I will do my daughters U10 team in the Fall as well.
MizzouRah
05-28-2009, 12:09 PM
We are expanding from 1 U14 girls team to having a U12, U14, and two U15-HS teams.
Tough loss.. but at least it was a good game Cringer!
Oh.. and my 13yr old daughter will be heading to Mizzou soccer camp next month!!! She is soooo excited!
Cringer
05-28-2009, 12:44 PM
We are expanding from 1 U14 girls team to having a U12, U14, and two U15-HS teams.
Tough loss.. but at least it was a good game Cringer!
Oh.. and my 13yr old daughter will be heading to Mizzou soccer camp next month!!! She is soooo excited!
That is a big jump in teams, ouch. I coached two this spring, taking one of the U12/11 rec teams because they had no coach. So I will end up sticking with two, although I will call it 2.5 because if 9/10 rec is co-ed again then I will be putting a girls team together on the side to practice one in a while and go to the regional tournament at the end of the season.
The loss was rough, we lost 3-2 and won 3-1 against them in the season. Both teams are fairly even, though we have more girls which is the case against any team we played. For that reason alone I am very happy with the team doing as well as they did. 6 games without a loss until yesterday, 4 of them wins.
My daughter is signed up for the Challenger British Soccer Camp, supposed to be pretty good but we will see.
MizzouRah
05-28-2009, 05:43 PM
Ooohh.. that British soccer camp sounds excellent!
I actually forgot a U13 team also.. we started out with one team after we quit another local team which was not running like we had thought it would.
Now, after two seasons.. more teams are calling us and we are finally going to go "club". I'm only going to coach the U13 and U14 teams and 1 rec U8 team this fall... the other 3 guys who started this with me are going to run the other teams.
Should be a busy fall for sure!
Cringer
09-15-2009, 02:28 AM
Let year #2 begin, or season #3, however you want to number things.
Let me skip back to the Challenger British Soccer Camp though, that happened in early August here. It was excellent! We ended up with 26 kids register and attend, which was higher then expected when the early numbers were so low and past camps only in the teens. Over $100 for a one week camp down here is just too hard for a majority of the people. The camp was great to watch though. The two coaches are university coaches in England, both young guys. They did a great job. I was happy to see my daughter improve during the camp. I also think part of it is she seems to be loosening up on the field, having more field, and moving slightly more 'athletic' then she had been last year.
Fall 2009 season officially started on the fields today with our first team practice. Been working hard for a month as I am now club treasurer and have also handle half of the registrations, roster forming, and publishing the rosters. We ended up with enough girls to have a U9/U10 girls division, in part do to the state association changing those ages to 6v6 play. No co-ed, YAY! It's going to be very good for the girls and getting them to keep playing.
I have two returning players from last season, my daughter and a girl who wasn't going to return unless it was all girls. She is a pretty good player so I am glad it worked out. Three girls have never played before and with one it clearly showed. It will be very fun working with them though and enjoyed practice very much today. Since practice at the end of last week was rained out twice we are having three this week, first game is Saturday.
Just the one team this fall, though it ends up being two/three basically. Since we are a smaller club we are allowed to assemble a U10 and U9 team from all the girls we have to play in the valley-wide Association playoffs at the end of the season. I will be in charge of picking the players, getting in a few practices, and coaching in a couple friendlies against another smaller club's teams and in the tournament. I really look forward to that as well.
Cringer
11-19-2009, 12:22 AM
Season is pretty much over and tonight helped make this a crazy week. My U9/U10 girls team went 5-1-2 this season, both ties coming against the other top team who finished 5-1-2 I believe as well (or 4-2-2). Really a great season and all the girls from the team now make up three teams going to the Valley Playoffs (regional rec tourny). I coach the U10 girls and that takes place this weekend with what will be four games in two days.
Tonight though pretty much ended what has been a build up for a while and peeked after I became Treasurer a few months back and I saw were the money has been going. I ran for President and won fairly easy, with some people who I know would have voted for me not even able to make it to the meeting tonight. So that was nice. To complete the cleaning house my wife won to be Registrar replacing the soon former President's brother-in-law. Those two guys did pretty well to mess up many things over the year I have been around, so now the responsibilty falls on our shoulders and I am confident it will get much better with us as two of the key board members. I start officially on December 1st with my work cut out for me because right away I need to start cleaning up his mess of a tournament that is supposed to take place on December 12th but hasn't been planned, and then the off-season work of planning everything out in advance until next Fall as well as putting in solid rules and policies that the coaches support, something that hasn't ever been done really.
Going to be crazy. In a good way though I think.
Landshark44
06-04-2010, 04:36 PM
My 9 yr old boy is playing travel soccer for a club in Galloway, NJ. I have found it to be very good soccer, and am enjoying the experience very much. The club he plays for is Atlantic United. The Head coach is a schoolteacher, Kris Anderson, that also coaches the womens varsity team at Rutgers. They typically train 2-3 times a week, and play games on Sundays. They are just starting to take on some MAPS games....
The team my boy plays on is U10, and they go to U11 on August 1st. Since my son can hang with all of them, and is only 9, naturally I think he is a future star destined to play in the 2022 World Cup.
Anyone have experience with trying to take their kid to the TOP levels of youth soccer? I'd love to see the boy max out on his potential.....
Should I continue to have him play above his age level? Or is there more benefit to playing with kids his own age....?
Any insight into the process would be appreciated.....
MrBug708
08-16-2010, 12:33 PM
Looks like I am stepping into the realm of coaching youth soccer, being handed a girls U10 AYSO team.
Ksyrup
08-16-2010, 12:52 PM
Our little one's soccer league is dying for coaches. Her team still doesn't have one and it's been 2 weeks. I just don't have the time, and I don't know jack squat or care about soccer anyway. I'll stick with softball.
DaddyTorgo
08-16-2010, 02:34 PM
I've thought about sorta making this my "thing." I'd need to go and get my licenses though. Good thing is that my dad has a couple levels done, so he can help me thru the process.
MizzouRah
08-16-2010, 08:26 PM
Looks like I am stepping into the realm of coaching youth soccer, being handed a girls U10 AYSO team.
Good luck!
I have 2 U9 teams this year, rec + and competitive.
We start in two weeks and have been working hard, even in the heat.
Our club has went from one girls soccer team to 8 total teams, it's a LOT of work, but worth it.
I have my "D" license and would be happy to help anyone that needs it.
Cringer
08-16-2010, 09:08 PM
It is worth it. I am jumping from U10 girls to U12 girls and what I am calling half-travel. Because of our location I can take advantage of registering the team as a Division III rec team but still play a mostly Division II teams. Didn't have the numbers for U11 girls so jumping to U12. Will be a rough season but I think I can keep these girls together a while and it will be worth it.
Plus, since I will not be doing a straight up rec team I will start doing open training sessions once a week for the rec kids, no charge. that way parents who maybe aren't real happy with their inexperienced coach will still feel like their kid is getting proper training and I don't have to coach twenty teams on game day to do it. The club paid for me to go get my National D license, hotel and all, so this was the goal of that for the most part. also willing to help anyone if they need it.
cubboyroy1826
08-16-2010, 09:56 PM
Well my U12 and U8 girls teams had their first games this past Saturday. The U8 team was awesome winning 9-5 (it would have been worse but I pulled my goal scorers back on defense after we were up 7-2.
My U12 girls wound up having three players not show up so we had no subs on a steaming ass hot day. The other teams coaches had not had time to go over offsides so there were no offisides called for the game. Having taught my girls a bit about the offsides trap we were down 4-0 in the first quarter due to 3 offside goals. My girls made a game of it losing 8-5 but really had no gas left in the 4th quarter. Their biggest problem was trying to push the ball through the middle of the field rather than up the sides which were wide open all game. We started in a 3-2-3 and had to switch to a 3-3-2 because my midfielders kept pushing too far forward. At least with 3 midfielders I was able to get on who would at least lag back a bit. So next game is Saturday and I have two girls who have said they will not make it. At least this week I get my two best defensive players back along with my top goalie. Ah the frustration of AYSO soccer when the parents just cannot commit to making the games.
Warhammer
08-16-2010, 10:20 PM
Got roped into this again this year, this time 3rd and 4th graders.
Cringer
08-17-2010, 01:32 AM
Wow, start early up north eh? Our season won't start until September 18th. It's a little warmer down here in November though I guess.
MrBug708
08-18-2010, 11:07 AM
Scheduled the first practice for tomorrow evening. Probably keep it pretty short, maybe 30 minutes and designed more to meet the girls/parents. Any ideas? Should I just work on some simple passing and stretches?
Ksyrup
08-18-2010, 11:09 AM
Wow, start early up north eh? Our season won't start until September 18th. It's a little warmer down here in November though I guess.
In Kentucky, the kids play end of August through early-mid October, then again in mid-March through May. In Florida, our season started in December and went through February.
bhlloy
08-18-2010, 11:13 AM
Bug - are you coaching in TC region 98?
MrBug708
08-18-2010, 11:28 AM
Yessir! Are you volunteering? :)
bhlloy
08-18-2010, 12:27 PM
Don't really have time anymore now I'm moving offices, but we had a Girls U10 team a couple of years ago. Good luck, definitely a very rewarding experience.
MizzouRah
03-03-2012, 09:41 PM
Spring soccer is here.. going to be abour 35 degrees for our first game tomorrow. Our club is now at 14 teams and I'm coaching 3 teams total, 2 U10 teams and 1 U11 team, all girls.
We are looking to purchase 20 acres here in Troy, I'm so excited. Hopefully, in about 5-8 years I can quit my day job and run a soccer business.
My oldest daughter just turned 16 and would have made varsity this year, but she wants to train with our new trainer who just moved here from New York and is excellent. She only wants to train and play club ball right now, I'm a little disappointed, but it's her choice.
My 9 year old is on my U10 competitive team and she's really starting to grow, her foot skills are top 3 on the team and she has the hardest shot. I just want her to get her endurance up. :)
I've challeged all my teams to win their divisions this season, so we will see what happens. I really don't care about wins and losses, but there is no reason these 3 teams shouldn't win games with all the work they have put in with our trainers.
I signed my oldest up this year for U6 and was promptly told that unless we got some more coaches, we wouldn't have enough for a team. I volunteered as did another dad and I get to be assistant for the year. I've never played or coached soccer. I'm taking some classes the local club offers in an attempt to learn as much as possible before the season starts. I'm pretty nervous about this, but I like the way they go about coaching - No Lines, No Lectures, No Laps.
gstelmack
03-04-2012, 09:41 AM
I got roped into coaching my son's U7 team due to a lack of volunteers. I have no clue what I'm doing, but I'll keep it as fun as I can for the kids.
Landshark44
03-04-2012, 09:52 AM
Our first game is today.... Away in Cherry Hill, NJ....U-11 Boys
Edit- Tied 0-0 Our Goalie kept us in it. We couldn't pressure at all.....
BishopMVP
03-04-2012, 02:48 PM
I got roped into coaching my son's U7 team due to a lack of volunteers. I have no clue what I'm doing, but I'll keep it as fun as I can for the kids.At that age it pretty much all comes down to keeping them happy and interested. When in doubt, just try to get them as many touches as possible, particularly while moving.
MizzouRah
03-04-2012, 05:53 PM
I was 0-3 today.. although I was very happy with foot skills/ball movement/positioning.. just couldn't finish.
I'm beat though.. :)
MizzouRah
03-20-2012, 09:34 PM
My U10 competitive team won tonight 2-0 and we are now 2-1 on this young season!!! We probably had possession 35 out of 50 minutes, so happy right now.
The weather has been too rainy to get practices in, but they have finally clicked as a team and work really well together.
MizzouRah
07-28-2013, 07:38 AM
wow.. over a year later.. my U11 team is at the show me games this weekend and we had to win all 4 games to take the gold.. we won the first two 4-1 and lost 3-1 last night.. ugh.. I waited too long to switch to a 2-3-2 as skill wise we were better, but the other team was a "kick and run team" and just let their two speedsters run under the long ball.
Playing for silver today..
MizzouRah
07-28-2013, 06:16 PM
Won the silver!
Izulde
07-28-2013, 06:18 PM
Congrats!
MizzouRah
07-28-2013, 07:36 PM
Congrats!
Thanks, we had a blast!
Now we are on to 11v11.. I can't wait!!!
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