Laying some pipe

[SunDevil]

Dad chases naked teen from daughter's room with pipe (http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2008/09/12/20080912angry-dad0912-ON.html)

DELTONA, Fla. - An angry Deltona father whacked his teenage daughter's boyfriend with a metal pipe after finding the boy naked in his daughter's room.

Authorities say Raul Colon, 45, didn't even know his daughter had a boyfriend or that the youngster had been sneaking into the home for more than a year.

When he heard noises coming from his daughter's bedroom Thursday morning and saw a stranger standing naked on the girl's bed, he swung a metal pipe. He then chased the teen out the front door and called police.

The boy was taken to the hospital where doctors closed a head wound with staples.

Colon was charged with aggravated battery on a child and bonded out on $10,000.

[Flasch186]

hmmm, dont think he should be found guilty of anything. find naked stranger in daughter's room? commence head banging.

[Mustang]

hmmm, dont think he should be found guilty of anything. find naked stranger in daughter's room? commence head banging.

That's what I was thinking.

Sorry Your honor, I thought it was a burglar and my daughter was in danger.

[Shkspr]

"Young man, if you want to date my daughter, there is something you should know. You've probably heard all the jokes about fathers owning a shotgun and knowing how to use it, or owning a shovel and there being lots of guys buried in their backyard, and other macho overprotective bullshit like that.

I just want you to know...I've been charged. Seriously, here's the news article. Now my princess is going to be home by 8:30 PM tonight, right?"

[Lathum]

This is why I don't want daughters.

and I would be surprised if he was found guilty.

[Karlifornia]

Dude's gonna be found guilty, I'd have to imagine. A naked teenager (I'm assuming/hoping he was a teenager) is probably not going to be categorized as a grave threat.

[Kodos]

A naked person you've never seen appears in your daughter's room? Time to kick some ass.

[Anthony]

Dude's gonna be found guilty, I'd have to imagine. A naked teenager (I'm assuming/hoping he was a teenager) is probably not going to be categorized as a grave threat.

you're allowed to protect your home and most importantly you're family. there is no law that prohibits you from doing either. just cuz you find out after the fact that the stranger is really just a teen (and who can tell the difference between an 18 year old and, say, a 16 year old??) and ultimately didn't pose any serious danger doesn't mean all the young males of America are free to walk around with their cocks hanging and bang all the teenage girls they can catch. it doesn't work that way.

if this were to happen to me, i would've slipped a knife in the teen's pants so that i could say he was armed and i was claiming self defense. if someone ever were stupid enough to break into my house without some type of weapon, if i were able to kill them or subdue them i would take one of my kitchen knives and put it in their hands or by their feet and say the intruder must've taken one of my knives and appeared willing to use it on me.

shoot first, ask questions later.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

They should make the little bastard appear in court naked.

[Anthony]

is it only statutory rape if the person is older than the victim, or does it not matter what age the raper is, only if the rapee is underage?

[Poli]

"Young man, if you want to date my daughter, there is something you should know. You've probably heard all the jokes about fathers owning a shotgun and knowing how to use it, or owning a shovel and there being lots of guys buried in their backyard, and other macho overprotective bullshit like that.

I just want you to know...I've been charged. Seriously, here's the news article. Now my princess is going to be home by 8:30 PM tonight, right?"
+infinity

[molson]

I'd guess a plea to a misdemeanor charge of Disturbing the Peace, with a fine, and 8 hours anger management.

We can all relate, certainly. But the best response to this situation isn't this one.

[Karlifornia]

I'm glad I never dated any of your daughters...I probably would not be alive today.

[miami_fan]

Next time, the teen will just have her come to his house. His Dad won't chase her with a metal pipe.

[saldana]

Dude's gonna be found guilty, I'd have to imagine. A naked teenager (I'm assuming/hoping he was a teenager) is probably not going to be categorized as a grave threat.

i actually expect him to either have the charges dropped or to be pled out on a minor charge...most states have laws that allow for the use of any amount of force to prevent a rape...all the guy has to say is that he thought the dude was trying to rape his daughter

[Noop]

He should be his daughter with that pipe or atleast give her a whooping. That is very disrespectful for her to be engaging in sexual acts under her fathers roof.

[miami_fan]

He should be his daughter with that pipe or atleast give her a whooping. That is very disrespectful for her to be engaging in sexual acts under her fathers roof.

What, hold his daughter accountable for her actions? No way

[MizzouRah]

Good for the father!

Yes I have daughters...

[hawk4669]

As a father of two girls, I almost feel complelled to make the trip to attend his trial in support of him!

;)

Cheers!

[sterlingice]

That's what I was thinking.

Sorry Your honor, I thought it was a burglar and my daughter was in danger.

No kidding. Tho I'm sure we're only getting part of the story.

SI

[sterlingice]

"Young man, if you want to date my daughter, there is something you should know. You've probably heard all the jokes about fathers owning a shotgun and knowing how to use it, or owning a shovel and there being lots of guys buried in their backyard, and other macho overprotective bullshit like that.

I just want you to know...I've been charged. Seriously, here's the news article. Now my princess is going to be home by 8:30 PM tonight, right?"

I would cut out this news article, get it blown up, and require my daughter to put it in 24x36" poster size on her room until she's out of the house ;)

SI

[Wolfpack]

We can all relate, certainly. But the best response to this situation isn't this one.

Nope. Didn't use lethal force. :D

[MizzouRah]

I would cut out this news article, get it blown up, and require my daughter to put it in 24x36" poster size on her room until she's out of the house ;)

SI

Great idea! :lol:

[Izulde]

is it only statutory rape if the person is older than the victim, or does it not matter what age the raper is, only if the rapee is underage?

Depends on state law.

[MylesKnight]

Is Mr. Colon kin to a Steve Bosell?

http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/philhendrie/lawsuits.html

Btw, nothing wrong with how this guy reacted, IMO.

[Mustang]

No kidding. Tho I'm sure we're only getting part of the story.


Probably the missing piece is going to be that the guy went looking for something to whoop this boy up with and came back several minutes after the initial discovery.

Unless of course the bathroom was nearby and just ripped it off the wall which would also be understandable.

[cougarfreak]

I'd have probably gone in with a gun if it was my daughter's room. The teenager's lucky.

[Oilers9911]

Two points.

1) I completely understand the father's actions.
2) If the father is a rational person he will realize that his daughter is as much at fault as the guy.

[Maple Leafs]

Wait, the guy was standing naked on the daughter's bed?

What kind of weird position is that?

[saldana]

Probably the missing piece is going to be that the guy went looking for something to whoop this boy up with and came back several minutes after the initial discovery.

Unless of course the bathroom was nearby and just ripped it off the wall which would also be understandable.


what...you dont walk around your house with a pipe in your hand all the time.

[Maple Leafs]

Probably the missing piece is going to be that the guy went looking for something to whoop this boy up with and came back several minutes after the initial discovery.
If the dad walked in on them, then left to find something, and the guy was still there when dad got back... he deserved a pipe to the head.

[MJ4H]

Wait, the guy was standing naked on the daughter's bed?

What kind of weird position is that?

an awesome one

[Sgran]

You guys are either the biggest group of hypocrites alive or you had the lamest teenage years on record.

and yes, I have two daughters.

[Oilers9911]

You guys are either the biggest group of hypocrites alive or you had the lamest teenage years on record.

and yes, I have two daughters.

Nobody said anything about not wanting to be in a teenaged girl's room when they were teenagers. We are just saying that now, as parents, some heads would be smashed.

[Galaxy]

It took him a year to find out she had a boyfriend and has been sneaking in the house?

[MJ4H]

I think I fall into the category of having grown up since I was a teenager.

[Passacaglia]

Next time, the teen will just have her come to his house. His Dad won't chase her with a metal pipe.

Word. Double standard all up in this thread. Anyone with a son willing to say they'd do this if they found a naked girl in his room?

[Coffee Warlord]

Word. Double standard all up in this thread. Anyone with a son willing to say they'd do this if they found a naked girl in his room?

Depends. Is she hot?

[MizzouRah]

I will agree the daughter is just as much at fault as her boyfriend.

The dad is an idiot as well for not knowing a kid is sneaking into his daughters room for a year now?

No way in hell that would happen at my house.. he'd have to climb on the roof and then be quiet enough for 3 dogs not to hear him. :)

[MacroGuru]

Well, he would be beat within an inch of his life at my house....and when my wife would be finished with that, I might be lucky to get a kick in.:D

And if it happened with my son, I would feel for the girl and her family...cause she wouldn't get the beat down, it would be my son.

And yes I partied and have fun as a teenager, which is exactly why this would happen. I had the pregnancy scare with a girl once. Imagine me, 17 going WTH am I going to do with a baby and how the hell can I tell my parents this one?

I cheer this father.

[CU Tiger]

He should be his daughter with that pipe or atleast give her a whooping. That is very disrespectful for her to be engaging in sexual acts under her fathers roof.

+1
Not that I didn't, but disrespectful none the less.

Good for the father!

Yes I have daughters...

+1

As a father of two girls, I almost feel complelled to make the trip to attend his trial in support of him!

;)

Cheers!

+1

I'd have probably gone in with a gun if it was my daughter's room. The teenager's lucky.

+1

If the dad walked in on them, then left to find something, and the guy was still there when dad got back... he deserved a pipe to the head.

+1

Nobody said anything about not wanting to be in a teenaged girl's room when they were teenagers. We are just saying that now, as parents, some heads would be smashed.

+1.....

Damn Ive never agreed with this many people about anything. I do wonder if he was truly "standing" on the bed and if the daughter was a screamer...:popcorn:

[DanGarion]

Dude's gonna be found guilty, I'd have to imagine. A naked teenager (I'm assuming/hoping he was a teenager) is probably not going to be categorized as a grave threat.

It's called breaking and entering, especially if his daughter is underage, he owns the house, he pays the bills, she has no authority to allow someone in without his discretion.

[lighthousekeeper]

i love all the tuff-guy talk going on in this thread. you're all a bunch of mean-ass text simmer aren't you. :)

[Crim]

Wait, the guy was standing naked on the daughter's bed?

What kind of weird position is that?

an awesome one

Funny ass shit, MJ4H.

[larrymcg421]

He was standing on the bed? I think it's pretty obvious what was going on, and it was probably worth a pipe to the head.

[gstelmack]

Word. Double standard all up in this thread. Anyone with a son willing to say they'd do this if they found a naked girl in his room?

The likelihood that the girl is raping your son is much smaller than the likelihood that the boy is raping your daughter.

[ISiddiqui]

Nobody said anything about not wanting to be in a teenaged girl's room when they were teenagers. We are just saying that now, as parents, some heads would be smashed.

So... he's right about being hypocrites?

[lighthousekeeper]

Conspicuously absent from the article is the location of the daughter during the altercation. was she in the room at the time? if so, you would think a quick glance between father and daughter would help the father discern (or at least suspect) whether the boy was invited or not, before commencing with the bludgeoning.

but i think many fathers would rather not know, and use that lack of knowledge as an excuse to give a beat down. i view that as criminal (whether it legally is or not).

[DaddyTorgo]

i love all the tuff-guy talk going on in this thread. you're all a bunch of mean-ass text simmer aren't you. :)

:lol:


and you all are slipping...


pixplzkthnx

[DanGarion]

So... he's right about being hypocrites?
I don't think it could really be called being a hypocrite, it's more like we are more wise not to do something as stupid as that now. Since I doubt many of us 20-30-40 year olds would be caught dead in a TEENAGERS room naked... ;)

[Coder]

I would be most curious to hear the daughter's age... or any of the two for that matter.. two teenagers could very well be two 17-year olds.. now.. if they were 13, sure, I could understand upset parents.. but upper teens?

[Lorena]

Maan, if this happened in our house, it'd be a scary sight.

[Drake]

When I was a teenager, I knew when I was sneaking into a girl's room in the middle of the night that the consequences of getting caught probably included being assaulted by her father -- if I was lucky and he didn't just open the door with a shotgun. I accepted that risk.

Being old enough to be on the other side of the coin now doesn't make me a hypocrite. It just makes me part of the system. (For the record, I don't have girls. I have teenaged boys. And no, I haven't discussed with them the ethics of sneaking into a girl's room in the middle of the night. If they're not smart enough to figure it out and keep from getting caught, they're not fit to pass on their genetic material anyway.)

[chesapeake]

It's just a head wound. It needed a few staples. Big whoop. The kid rolled the dice for a year. He was due.

Even Lionel Hutz should be able to win a jury trial on this one. The only chance the prosecution would have is if they had some evidence that the father somehow definitively knew that the kid was not a threat before he whacked him -- and even then I expect that he would plead to some misdemeanor charge. Without tangible evidence to the contrary, the defense will be able to argue that the dad swung first and asked questions later, which is not an unreasonable reaction given the few facts we have from the article.

The jury -- properly stacked with men between the ages of 35-60 -- will never vote to convict.

[miami_fan]

I would be most curious to hear the daughter's age... or any of the two for that matter.. two teenagers could very well be two 17-year olds.. now.. if they were 13, sure, I could understand upset parents.. but upper teens?

Both are 15