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FrogMan

01-02-2009, 09:16 AM

The Enhanced Graphic V 2.5 and the HDR for it.

I have installed the Hundred Years War and it is tough, even on the easy settings, so I like that.

But other than that, I haven't played with a lot of the other mods.

Quick link to that Graphical Enhancement V2.5 (http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,36914.0.html)

Just downloaded it, looks very nice. Quick question though. Do you need to start a new game for it to take effect?

Not that it's that bad, as I just started, but I'm curious...

FM

FrogMan

01-02-2009, 09:17 AM

dola, and the game is now up to version 1.011 (1.010 on Steam).

FM

MacroGuru

01-02-2009, 09:24 AM

Quick link to that Graphical Enhancement V2.5 (http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,36914.0.html)

Just downloaded it, looks very nice. Quick question though. Do you need to start a new game for it to take effect?

Not that it's that bad, as I just started, but I'm curious...

FM

Not 100% sure, I just downloaded everything, deleted all my save games (I wasn't to far along on any of them) and started a new one...

It does come across dark, but you have to make sure you adjust your video settings to what Zalo (The mod developers) are at, or tweak them to your desire.

MrBug708

01-05-2009, 02:52 PM

I ended up buying this game and enjoying going around the countryside. I ended up getting a castle and a village that I am taking care of!

FrogMan

01-05-2009, 02:59 PM

I suck badly at it. I have been starting and restarting games where I start running around the coutryside but get stuck hit by a bunch of deserters and they decimate by group of lowly ranked people. I especially suck at fighting...

FM

DaddyTorgo

01-05-2009, 03:02 PM

i found the fighting (particularly mounted) to be the hardest. almost frustrating. i want to give it another try now that i have this new mouse though...

gstelmack

01-05-2009, 03:05 PM

Thoroughly enjoying this. Battles get a bit easier if you can find one or two hero-types in taverns to help you do the meat of the work and get the low-ranks levelled up. But I still lose occasionally.

FrogMan

01-06-2009, 09:20 PM

Ok, definitely got better today. Played a couple hours this afternoon and afternoon adding four cavalry guardsmen (or something like that) to my group, in addition to Nizar, it got a whole lot easier. When you have a group of 15 and you spot a group of 19 deserters in the wild and it says "Running away from...", it means they are afraid of you. :)

Then it got better when I leveled two levels at once for guiding a caravan or merchants from one town all the way accross the land to another town. Only got 200 gold or so, but got tons of experience for it...

I'm still highly frustrated with my bow when riding my horse, but my two handed sword has been good to me.

FM

Greyroofoo

01-06-2009, 09:36 PM

FrogMan

01-06-2009, 10:06 PM

Don't even bother using your bow when moving on a horse.

yeah, I figured as much. I'm simply running around on my horse and swinging my axe now :)

Also helps now that my troops have evolved a bit and I have a good mix of mounted one and footmen.

FM

sabotai

01-06-2009, 10:09 PM

FrogMan

01-06-2009, 10:49 PM

To get good with using a bow when riding, you need to invest points in Horse Archery, get your Archery weapon skill up, and a spend a lot of time practicing. I've gotten pretty good with it and rarely fight any other way.

still can't do it while actually riding the horse, but I got myself stationed in our latest battle and got in a good head shot, not a kill, but still not bad. I got a kill when I got closer and pulled my axe to finish one. :)

There should be some keyboard shortcut to allow us to also raise our hand/arm/weapon when the battle is won. I simply would want to scream like the fellas and celebrate too... :D

FM

MacroGuru

01-07-2009, 09:20 AM

To me, the combat is one of the easier parts of the game to understand.

I always use a bow on the horse, with one handed sword and a shield.

I get to the point I shoot their horses with my bow and drop them....let me rank and file deal with the guys on the ground.

I have yet to sit down and truly build my fife though, I need to focus on that one more than anything now I think.

Honolulu_Blue

01-07-2009, 09:52 AM

To me, the combat is one of the easier parts of the game to understand.

I always use a bow on the horse, with one handed sword and a shield.

This my preferred tactic as well. I am not very good at this game at all, but that's typically how I fight. I use the bow from horseback and then eventually switch to the sword and ride people down.

FrogMan

01-07-2009, 02:04 PM

Honolulu_Blue

01-07-2009, 02:23 PM

got a silly question: is there any use to capturing prisoners early on? I'm talking about your usual wounded looters or bandits here. I have 2 in prisoners management, allowing me to keep 10, and at one point had 9 but realized they simply were slowing my group down more than anything else.

FM

You can sell them off to slavers to be sold as slaves. I think you can do this at the Salt Mines and maybe in some of the coastal towns. I am not sure what the price per head is anymore.

FrogMan

01-07-2009, 10:31 PM

You can sell them off to slavers to be sold as slaves. I think you can do this at the Salt Mines and maybe in some of the coastal towns. I am not sure what the price per head is anymore.

thanks for the info. Couldn't find the salt mines but found a slave trader in the tavern at Tihr, yup a coastal town. His going rate was 50 denars per slave.

Again had a lot of little fun tonight. Getting the hang of riding the horse and swinging my new two hand sword. Just love coming at full speed to finish a bandit. Gotta love the swish sound. :)

I freed a couple of little villages from brigands, one of them on a specific quest. Slowly working my way up to where I'll feel comfortable lending my hand to a lord or another.

My son came behind me as I was riding in the countryside. Was his bedtime so I couldn't show him any fights, but I'm pretty sure he'd like playing with it. :)

FM

MacroGuru

01-07-2009, 11:37 PM

Yeah, I am playing with one of the mods right now "Prophecy of Pendor" and it is pretty tough.

I am still thinking of running a Dynasty based off of Prophecy of Pendor, 1257 or the Hundred Years.

Izulde

01-08-2009, 12:48 AM

I downloaded the demo for this years ago... kind of wish I'd bought the game while it was insanely cheap.

Tempted to demo d/l again.

gstelmack

01-08-2009, 08:33 AM

So I've backed off the renderer to DX7 and turned a bunch of stuff down, but this is still shutting my machine down (completely powering it off) after playing for a while. Not sure yet if it's a bug in the game or an issue with my machine / setup.

Which is sad because it's tons of fun.

Yellow5

01-23-2009, 12:48 PM

Weekend sale @ Steam for this. Price is $7.50!

Edit: Link http://store.steampowered.com/app/22100/

Izulde

01-23-2009, 12:56 PM

Weekend sale @ Steam for this. Price is $7.50!

Edit: Link Mount and Blade on Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/22100/)

Thank you for this! :)

Now if the bastards only fixed the Internet access in my apartment so I can download it to my desktop...

gstelmack

01-23-2009, 01:08 PM

And it was a bargain at twice that.

FYI, my crash issues appear to be a video card crashing and burning. Civ IV is blowing up too, with corruption first. Not the fault of the game.

Eaglesfan27

01-23-2009, 02:11 PM

I've heard enough good things in this thread that I'm going for the sale price this weekend. Thanks for the info.

FrogMan

01-23-2009, 02:39 PM

man I've not had time to play this in over a week. Will need to play some this weekend.

And that is a heck of steal at that price. I paid $15 and thought it was really worth it...

FM

SirFozzie

01-23-2009, 06:59 PM

Snagged. It will be a good thing to play over the weekend

MrBug708

01-23-2009, 09:38 PM

15 was worth it and probably 30 was worth it IMO.

The key is to not load up on special characters but stick to developing the peasants into harden soldiers

MacroGuru

01-23-2009, 10:03 PM

I haven't played for a couple of weeks, been focusing on launching and marketing my sites.

I am going to sit down tonight and play a bunch, the wife is out with the girls causing trouble so it's time to vegetate without remorse.

Izulde

01-24-2009, 01:39 PM

Dumb question, but how do you dismount from your horse?

SirFozzie

01-24-2009, 01:40 PM

Pan down so you're staring at your horse and hit F.

Izulde

01-24-2009, 01:43 PM

Pan down so you're staring at your horse and hit F.

Thanks. :) I suck at horse riding, so trying to get to talk to people was a real pain.

Pumpy Tudors

01-24-2009, 09:17 PM

I'm not finding a link to buy on Steam. Is this one of those things that they're "sold out" of?

Eaglesfan27

01-24-2009, 09:29 PM

I used the link in this thread and it worked perfectly this afternoon.

Pumpy Tudors

01-24-2009, 09:33 PM

Damn. I'm guessing I missed out. I'll keep trying tonight and tomorrow, but I'm not hopeful.

mckerney

01-24-2009, 09:47 PM

The page no longer has a purchase option, post on steam forum says that they may be out of CD keys.

Pumpy Tudors

01-25-2009, 02:10 PM

I managed to buy it about 20 minutes ago at the $7.50 price. Looks like they got some more CD keys!

mckerney

01-25-2009, 02:20 PM

I checked around then too and bought it after seeing it came back up.

Icy

01-25-2009, 02:24 PM

So what is it about? like Total war medieval? any mini review?

Yellow5

01-25-2009, 03:14 PM

IGN review sums it up well.

"It's difficult to easily describe Mount & Blade, but it's a bit like a medieval version of Sid Meier's Pirates. It is part action game, where you can ride into battle, swinging a sword to hack your opponents. It's part role-playing, as you control a character that can level up, learn more skills, and even climb the ladder of feudal society. It is part strategy game, as you hire and train a company of soldiers that fight alongside you in battles. And it all takes place in an open world where you choose to be as noble or as dastardly as you want to be"

Eaglesfan27

01-25-2009, 03:18 PM

I bought the steam version yesterday and have done the tutorial. Is there an instruction manual that I should read before starting the actual game or are things relatively self-explanatory as the game begins?

Chief Rum

01-25-2009, 03:37 PM

Is this a joystick recommended game for the action stuff, or is this still fairly easy to play and use with the ole mouse & keyboard?

Calis

01-25-2009, 03:48 PM

Is this a joystick recommended game for the action stuff, or is this still fairly easy to play and use with the ole mouse & keyboard?

All keyboard and mouse here. In fact I think it'd be very tough to play with a joystick.

Eaglesfan27

01-25-2009, 04:44 PM

FrogMan

01-25-2009, 04:49 PM

I'm having fun but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing at this point. I did the training camp area and beat up some bandits that attacked me - 8 vs 1 which was fun ;) Now, I've gotten a few followers from local villages, but I'm just wondering around trying to figure out what to do next.

pretty much ride around, beat on bandits and such to get their stuff to sell it back, then go from castle to castle or town to town and talk to important people asking them if they have a task for you. Sometimes they might ask you to escort a caravan of merchants, this'll give you renown and will help you level even faster. At some point, you can even become mercenary for a king or something and later on even become a vassal. It's very open ended...

FM

sabotai

01-25-2009, 04:50 PM

You can move around, finding other bandits to attack to gain experience and loot. You can go to villages or cities and get quests to do (Village Elder in villages, Guild Master in cities). Those are a really good way to get experience at the start of the game, plus it'll increase how much the people like you.

You could also go city to city, buying and selling goods. No experience in that, but if you know where to buy and sell certain items, you can made a lot of money...if bandits don't kill you as you travel.

FrogMan

01-25-2009, 04:50 PM

you can also go to the marketplace of a town and try to figure out which goods could give you some profit if you bought them there and sold them elsewhere, then buy some and simply go as a merchant to the village where the best profit will be achieved.

FM

Chief Rum

01-25-2009, 04:57 PM

Can you go the vagabond route yourself? Start up a bandit band and rob and pillage and lie? ;)

Chief Rum

01-25-2009, 04:58 PM

So...what is this?

It sounds like some kind of sick sex act.

Snuff film

This should have gotten more love.

thesloppy

01-25-2009, 06:49 PM

Can you go the vagabond route yourself? Start up a bandit band and rob and pillage and lie? ;)

I may have robbed a few caravans in my time...

...and looted, pillaged and burned about a half-dozen villages. But I've only done those things to one faction, so while THEY may think I'm a heartless bandit, the rest of the country thinks I'm a swell guy.

I've been having a blast with this game, and was so bummed when I missed the first sale, so getting it for $7.50 makes ME feel like a bandit.

Izulde

01-25-2009, 06:56 PM

I really wish this game supported a gamepad. For some reason, keyboard and mouse kills my hands after a half hour or so.

thesloppy

01-25-2009, 07:02 PM

I really wish this game supported a gamepad. For some reason, keyboard and mouse kills my hands after a half hour or so.

I have the same problem, I think it's because I really lean into that 'W' key while riding my horse, to keep him at a gallop during battle, and my wrist tries to revolt after an hour or two of that.

Groundhog

01-25-2009, 07:59 PM

God damn it, you guys are going to make me buy yet another game, aren't you?

thesloppy

01-25-2009, 08:15 PM

God damn it, you guys are going to make me buy yet another game, aren't you?

If you're going to get it, grab it while it's still $7.50, for the next 3 hours or so. Hell, that's got to be like a 1000th of whatever you pay for a console game in Australia.

Groundhog

01-25-2009, 08:19 PM

I'm home in 2 hours, and then this sucker is mine.

thesloppy

01-25-2009, 08:23 PM

I unwittingly chose the 'ironman' setting when I started my game, because it's worded kind of oddly (realistic style), so I've been having to make due with out being able to use save games, and I think it's pretty well done for an ironman mode. I don't know if you can truly 'die' but I got trounced in battle by a rival lord, knocked out, and taken prisoner, and in the process I lost my horse and the entirety of my party that I had spent the previous month building up. eventually I escaped after they had trucked me half way across the map, but I was alone on foot, and had to again start building up my party from scratch.

You do appear to keep most of your hired characters though, even if all of your peasants/soldiers/mercenaries get wiped out. I think I lost one hired character in the battle, but found him later in a tavern

DaddyTorgo

01-25-2009, 08:24 PM

i should grab this shit tonight. had the demo a while back and it was enjoyable - looking forward to seeing how improved it's gotten since then and all

Radii

01-25-2009, 08:47 PM

For $7.50 I'm curious enough to give it a try, woohoo.

MacroGuru

01-25-2009, 08:58 PM

Eaglesfan27

01-25-2009, 09:19 PM

Once you get settled with it, the community has developed a bunch of mods, I don't even play the base anymore. There is a mod called the Prophecy of Pendor I am liking.

Although the 100 years war was fun but amazingly tough.

Yeah, I forgot the appearance mod that was mentioned on the 1st page. I'll have to install that and restart my character while he is still early in his career.

MrBug708

01-26-2009, 02:15 AM

Someone had been working on ASOIAF mod for it at one point, but this game is truly the right game to build a mod for it

MacroGuru

01-26-2009, 05:36 AM

Someone had been working on ASOIAF mod for it at one point, but this game is truly the right game to build a mod for it

yeah I know what you mean I would love to see it. The tolkein mod is supposed to be good but it keeps crashing on my machine.

Icy

01-26-2009, 06:31 AM

Just purchased it by steam, don't know when i'll have time to play it, but the price and reviews were great.

Radii

01-26-2009, 12:43 PM

I'm having a blast with this today, I got that graphics mod and am just figuring everything out.

How far up do you need to train archery/horse archery to become effective with a bow on a horse(note that as I ask this I'm only level 4 and haven't upgraded any of my items).

So far my favorite thing to do has been the free for all melee's in the various arena's. I haven't gone to one of the tournaments yet.

MrBug708

01-26-2009, 12:51 PM

Not sure if you figured it out Radii, but if you hold the shift, you can zoom in with the bow and arrow

Eaglesfan27

01-26-2009, 01:05 PM

Not sure if you figured it out Radii, but if you hold the shift, you can zoom in with the bow and arrow

Thanks, I didn't know that. What difficulty level are most people playing on? After my first big fight against 8 looters, I've been struggling and dying a lot lately. I'm playing on "normal" damage and speed of combat rather than the default and wondering if I should drop back down when I play for a few minutes tonight.

MrBug708

01-26-2009, 01:35 PM

How many fellow party members do you have? I've noticed that close combat with a sword is much more effective then having a bow/crossbow

JPhillips

01-26-2009, 02:05 PM

IMO nothing beats couched lance damage!

Yellow5

01-26-2009, 03:20 PM

How many fellow party members do you have? I've noticed that close combat with a sword is much more effective then having a bow/crossbow

Close combat is the way to go.

Once you get a decent sized party the game gets pretty fun. And then you can start to do fun things like a castle siege.

gstelmack

01-26-2009, 03:31 PM

My key is to take my horse and charge the enemy, breaking up their advance, which makes it much easier for my partymembers to gang up on the strung-out enemy.

Groundhog

01-26-2009, 04:19 PM

Bought it and downloaded it last night, itching to get a chance to play it now.

FrogMan

01-26-2009, 04:24 PM

My key is to take my horse and charge the enemy, breaking up their advance, which makes it much easier for my partymembers to gang up on the strung-out enemy.

my party is at about size 30 right now, maybe 15-18 of them on horse, so we this what you describe here a lot. :)

I forget which of the non-heroes recruit can promote to mounted unit but some of them were simple footman recruited in some tiny town. Some of them were mercenary horsemen though, and of course, the 3-4 heroes I have with me have all been given a horse to ride on.

FM

Radii

01-26-2009, 04:33 PM

Thanks, I didn't know that. What difficulty level are most people playing on? After my first big fight against 8 looters, I've been struggling and dying a lot lately. I'm playing on "normal" damage and speed of combat rather than the default and wondering if I should drop back down when I play for a few minutes tonight.

I left it on the default difficulty which is ridiculously easy. I figure I'm going to learn the units(I got killed by a group of Lancers that I voluntarily took on b/c I had a 15-10 edge in manpower, not realizing that Lancers are highly promoted and very, very good), get better at combat, and get a good feel for the skills that I can train so that I can better plan out my next character. Then I'll check out some of the mods that everyone seems to enjoy and up the difficulty a bit. The easy difficulty is more than enough for me at this point though given the other things there are to learn in this game.

MrBug708

01-26-2009, 05:20 PM

I actually charging a group of soldiers on foot and after doing a bit of damage, i dismount and hack away. I actually enjoy my party with a bunch of soldiers on foot and only a few cavalry troops. I send everyone in at charge, then select the mounted troops and have them follow me

Radii

01-27-2009, 09:03 AM

Not sure if you figured it out Radii, but if you hold the shift, you can zoom in with the bow and arrow

Ohh, I didn't know that either. It seems incredibly challenging to try to do this while riding a horse, but I guess killing people with a bow and arrow while on a galloping horse isn't supposed to be easy.

ozias

01-27-2009, 05:36 PM

I find using a jousting stick on the horse is a lot more fun than using the sword. And you can do some killer damage when hitting your foes that way.

plus you don't have to click your mouse button, just start galloping, and when you get up to speed, you'll automatically bring the joust to position to hit the enemy, now just guide the horse to the enemy, and then turn slightly to the left of them....walla, your joust strikes the enemy, and he ends up dead or unconscious. I've taken a few Lords this way, plus the King of the Rhodoks as well. Granted his party was not very big, and was already in a duel with the Swadia's when I joined the fray, but hey, I got to capture him, so he was my prisoner. Plus I got 9,700 denars when the Rhodoks offered to "buy" him back.

thesloppy

01-27-2009, 05:53 PM

gstelmack

01-27-2009, 08:03 PM

I'm looking forward to finding a lance to use on my horse. Have not found one yet...

As for sieges, you gain the respect of your king, who may eventually hand you the castle you just took...

Radii

01-27-2009, 08:07 PM

I'm looking forward to finding a lance to use on my horse. Have not found one yet...

I just recently got one, and also bought a morningstar after a buddy told me he preferred those to slashing weapons. I haven't had a chance to try out the morningstar though b/c the lance is way way too much fun.

JPhillips

01-27-2009, 09:13 PM

I believe I got my lance from the Swadians.

PineTar

01-28-2009, 01:16 AM

Bought this on Steam and for the life of me could not find a manual. Checking the Steam forums, I did come across this link for the PDF manual. Thought some other Steam purchasers might find it useful...

http://mountandblade.scarletsabers.com/files/Mount_Blade_ManualEU_1_.rar

Groundhog

01-28-2009, 07:29 AM

OK. I've played this waaaaaay too much tonight. Created a steppe archer type, but in truth I've largely just been hacking away (or, at least, letting my men hack away). Getting better at the horseback archery stuff though.

Eaglesfan27

01-28-2009, 07:47 AM

Radii

01-28-2009, 09:45 AM

Thank you! I think this link will significantly increase my enjoyment of the game.

+1, some useful stuff in there that I had not figured out(or didn't completely understand) on my own yet, thanks!

Groundhog

01-28-2009, 05:00 PM

Probably spent a solid 6 hours straight on this game last night. I started in the blue kingdom (the Val-something or anothers) and spent the first few hours doing quests and recruiting solely in that location, but after discovering the Mongol-esque kingdom, I wish I'd started there.

Outside of the repetitive "deliver a letter to so-and-so" quests - which are actually pretty handy when you first begin to help you explore the map and learn the controls - I've found a lot of the quests to be pretty well done and sometimes even fun, which is unusual for this type of game.

The combat is a hell of a lot of fun, the best medieval combat engine I've played. As a mounted steppe archer I've slowly been improving, both by way of skill upgrades AND practice, my horseback archery, but with just 30 shots and my still sucky accuracy I usually wind up drawing my sword anyhow.

It wasn't until I helped an ally in combat and watched what he did that I realised you can position your different troops and command different unit types at once. I only wish there was a "point and click" interface for this, rather than having to move your character to a point and hitting "hold this position". Still, it sure beats my early strategy of "charge!" and having all my units just sprint in to combat. :)

As far as earning cash goes, quests (particularily those from the Guild - I got $12,000 in my 2nd ever Guild Quest last night) are a great way to do it, but the problem is that FINISHING these quests often involves paying off characters, which in itself is expensive. I tried trading which, if you have a high trade rating in your party, works, but is risky due to the distances you have to travel. By far the best way I've found to make money at the moment is to target the villages of the kingdoms we are at war with and demand their supplies. Every 3 or 4 villages I hit nets me around $1,000. Maybe this will come back to bite me later in the game, I'm not sure. :)

Overall I'm loving this game, especially for $7.50! An absolute steal.

thesloppy

01-28-2009, 05:37 PM

I just recently got one, and also bought a morningstar after a buddy told me he preferred those to slashing weapons. I haven't had a chance to try out the morningstar though b/c the lance is way way too much fun.

For some reason I thought all one/two-handed weapons behaved much the same as the others, but after reading this I got curious and started playing around with all the different weapon types on the battleground (against overmatched opponents) to see which one I enjoyed the most.

The 'shortened military scythe' is absolutely GREAT fun for chopping down dudes on foot from horseback....but since I have a much greater one-handed skill, and the scythe doesn't seem to do as well against mounted opponents, I have settled on the 'heavy knight's war axe' which packs a mighty wallop for a one-hander (I've been playing the 'prophecy of pendor' mod that MG mentioned earlier, so I'm not sure those weapons even exist in native). I enjoyed the mighty damage you can lay out with a lance, but prefer the work/reward of working in real close to someone and whacking them in the head.

Radii

01-28-2009, 05:49 PM

After reading through the manual today, I noticed two things immediately when I started playing:

1) The value of knowing that I can CTRL-Left click on items to sell/buy/loot them instead of having to click and drag each one. Massive time saver.

2) After reading a description of how tracking works, I realized that I didn't have anyone worth a damn in my party for tracking(all I ever saw were white arrows with no additional information). I immediately went tavern hopping until I found a named guy who said he was a tracker and picked him up. Tracking/spotting are HUGE to have around.

Groundhog

01-28-2009, 06:13 PM

Me thinks I need to read the manual. Ctrl-Left click FTW.

thesloppy

01-28-2009, 06:35 PM

I spent a good hour last night mapping the keystrokes to my xbox controller and tweaking the sensitivity and such....I almost got it to the point where it was comparable to mouse/keyboard, but not quite.

MrBug708

01-28-2009, 08:20 PM

I've been enjoying sieges, as it's one of the only opportunities I have to get out my bow and pick people off, but I've noticed that you don't seem to get any party experience or loot from a siege, which seems like a rip-off, is that correct?

You get the XP and you get the chance to hire the prisoners away. But ya, no money really involved with a siege.

Has anyone had much luck winning the favors from any of the ladies? Or really followed the exiled rulers plot line? I did one quest for a lady but nothing seemed to come of it.

MrBug708

01-28-2009, 08:28 PM

I'm looking forward to finding a lance to use on my horse. Have not found one yet...

As for sieges, you gain the respect of your king, who may eventually hand you the castle you just took...

JUst look for any polearm. Ones with some sort of tip on the end can also be used as a slashing weapon on a horse, which I dont prefer all that much

Radii

01-28-2009, 08:40 PM

Has anyone had much luck winning the favors from any of the ladies? Or really followed the exiled rulers plot line? I did one quest for a lady but nothing seemed to come of it.

I challenged a lord to a duel for one of the ladies and won. Ever since I did that I can ask seemingly any one of the ladies anywhere to sway the favor of one of the lords. I haven't made use of that yet, I assume it will just increase my favor with one of them if I feel I need it for something.

I noticed that recently one of the exiled rulers was finally willing to accept my help but I don't really feel strong enough to go try to overthrow a kingdom quite yet. Its definitely something I want to try though.

Groundhog

01-28-2009, 10:57 PM

wahoomac

01-28-2009, 11:05 PM

Last night I was involved in a fairly large scale battle and managed to take a prisoner - a noble from an opposing kingdom. However, I went to the ransom dude in a tavern (which is where I assume you sell these guys?), yet there doesn't seem to be an option to sell him?

I wonder if it's related to the fact that I have him as a prisoner, despite having a party score of 0 for the prisoner rating. In the party screen it lists the noble, but also has the "you need a 1 or greater in prisoner management" message below him.

You can't sell Nobles, but you can ransom them after a a bit of time. A message will come asking for the Noble to be ransomed. If you ransom him, you gain money. If you don't ransom him, you lose Honor. Nobles also can escape from captivity (randomly) and there is no set amount of time that passes before the request to ransom him back to his people.

Groundhog

01-28-2009, 11:18 PM

Stuff like "honour" and (that rating you get for taking on difficult opponents - fame or something?), is there a screen you can view those ratings on?

Groundhog

01-29-2009, 06:23 PM

(found the answer to the above - through the Reports section)

Took part in my first castle assault last night. Was awesome fun, but once I got up the ladder and in the thick of it, I was too afraid to swing my sword because I couldn't tell if friend or foe was in front of me, but had fun picking off the archers with my bow. Looking forward to defending a castle.

I think so far my LEAST favourite thing to do is herding cattle. Not at all difficult, but annoying and time consuming.

SirFozzie

01-29-2009, 06:51 PM

There's no friendly target damage, at least in my setup

Groundhog

01-29-2009, 07:10 PM

Hmm, maybe it's in the options. I know that in standard battles I've certainly accidently shot my own men before, but maybe you can't hit allies.

thesloppy

01-29-2009, 07:13 PM

Hmm, maybe it's in the options. I know that in standard battles I've certainly accidently shot my own men before, but maybe you can't hit allies.

You can shoot allies with your bow, but can't hit them with melee weapons

sabotai

01-29-2009, 07:25 PM

I think so far my LEAST favourite thing to do is herding cattle. Not at all difficult, but annoying and time consuming.

Same with me. I don't do it at all.

Eaglesfan27

01-29-2009, 07:34 PM

I'm going to read the instruction manual tomorrow in detail.. does it explain how to herd cattle? I had a mission to do that and had no idea how to do it.

Radii

01-29-2009, 07:38 PM

I'm going to read the instruction manual tomorrow in detail.. does it explain how to herd cattle? I had a mission to do that and had no idea how to do it.

I don't remember it being in the manual, but what you do is click on the cattle to interact with it just like you would any other units. There's an option to "drive the herd" or something like that. From that point you get behind them and force them in the general direction you want to go. Staying behind the cattle is the key, and once you see how they kind of go forward in the general direction you want, you just ride back and forth behind them and keep pushing them towards the destination. As others have said above, its fairly simple, but time consuming and highly annoying, once you get the hang of it :D

Groundhog

01-29-2009, 07:38 PM

I'm going to read the instruction manual tomorrow in detail.. does it explain how to herd cattle? I had a mission to do that and had no idea how to do it.

Haven't read the manual yet, but you do it by first clicking on the cattle, then select the option to herd them onwards, and then basically the cattle will move in roughly the opposite direction to you if you get near them, so you have to steer the cattle towards where you are taking them. It can be painfully slow. I sort of get right behind the cattle and zig zag so I don't overtake them, and it keeps them going forward.

wahoomac

01-31-2009, 03:36 PM

Haven't read the manual yet, but you do it by first clicking on the cattle, then select the option to herd them onwards, and then basically the cattle will move in roughly the opposite direction to you if you get near them, so you have to steer the cattle towards where you are taking them. It can be painfully slow. I sort of get right behind the cattle and zig zag so I don't overtake them, and it keeps them going forward.

That's one of the things I hated about the game, so I searched on Taleworlds forums and found an edit to fix the cattle herding. Most of the settings are set in text files, and just need to be edited. So I edited it so that when I "drive the cattle onward" they follow me (like caravans do), instead of flee from me.

Some other things I have edited: it is built into the game that each unit has a "ransom" value, but they set the amount at 30 (? 50? I don't remember which). I set it so that the higher level men (Khergit Lancers, etc.) ransom for a higher amount with the ransom traders in the Inns.

That's what makes this game so good, is that it is highly modable.

Yellow5

01-31-2009, 07:44 PM

Link to lots of tweaks, including the cattle fix.

Compilation of 82 little tweaks to the text files to change your gameplay(links) (http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,46290.0.html)

PineTar

02-01-2009, 02:51 PM

The cattle fix is most helpful. Thanks.

Voo

02-01-2009, 06:45 PM

Supposedly there is a multiplayer expansion coming. (http://www.fragland.net/news/Mount-and-Blade-gets-multiplayer-expansion/20208/)

gstelmack

02-01-2009, 08:31 PM

I'll be curious to see how multiplayer works. It's very difficult to do something like melee combat that requires split-second timing when you have 200+ mS latency in everybody's actions.

Groundhog

02-02-2009, 06:18 PM

Thanks for posting that list of tweaks. I used the cattle fix, added the village elder to the village menu, added the guild chat to the city menu, upped the prestige earnt through winning a tournament to 50 renown, increased the amount that can bet on myself during the tournament by a factor of x10.

Tournaments are a heck of a lot of fun, and a good way to make money thanks to the gambling tweak. I won a tournament in one of the Terghit cities (every stage of combat was with bows - my weapon of choice), and pocketed $30k afterwards. I tend to be crap at tournaments in other cities due to sucking with the javelin-type weapons and the horseback lances.

How long does it take before you start getting castles and things? My renown is at about 350 now, I have a following of 60 men, and my relationship with my king is at around 80. So far I have one village given to me by the king, and that was some time ago. I have helped in numerous sieges (both in defense and attack), yet so far I haven't been able to get my hands on any more property? Is there a particular quest or action I should take to improve my chances?

wahoomac

02-02-2009, 10:02 PM

How long does it take before you start getting castles and things? My renown is at about 350 now, I have a following of 60 men, and my relationship with my king is at around 80. So far I have one village given to me by the king, and that was some time ago. I have helped in numerous sieges (both in defense and attack), yet so far I haven't been able to get my hands on any more property? Is there a particular quest or action I should take to improve my chances?

See the tweaks link again and search for: 4. Change the way kings decide who to give land to. (http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=985f251dfe743cd59c56c7912f713dea&/topic,46290.msg1219470.html#msg1219470)

Basically, there are a lot of things working against you getting a castle. I hated taking a castle and then getting 900 denars for my efforts, so I did a little tweaking. I need to find the tweaks to add the village elder and guild master to the menus.

Groundhog

02-03-2009, 06:24 PM

Thanks for pointing that one out wahoomac. I tweaked it exactly like the dude in the thread suggested, then conquered my first castle solo last night. I requested to get the castle and, what do you know, got it. Default settings seem way off in that regard, though they would certainly slow the game down.

MrBug708

02-04-2009, 08:02 PM

Having castles can be a pain, if they are on the border. You have to supply them with men.

Groundhog

02-04-2009, 09:19 PM

My castle is way down in another territory. It's not a big deal though. I've been training up all my archers/footmen/horsemen to their highest level, and then putting them in the garrison. I have 200ish maxed out troops in their right now, which is handy because I can only have a party size of around 80.

Last night the enemy attacked my castle, and I had about 180 men garrisoned - all me, my heroes, and maxed out troops, versus 500ish attackers, and we beat them off. My maxed out archers were insane, and decimated the majority of the attackers before they made it up the ladders, and when they ran out of bows my knights and guards did the rest. Was a beautiful thing to watch.

Groundhog

03-02-2009, 06:17 PM

I love how easy this game is to mod. Took me about a week total including learning how to script in python (well, "script" in a basic fashion, anyway), a few hours a night, and I've completely replaced the Rhodocks with the Wa, a Samurai-inspired Asian faction. I used the beautiful models from the 'Onin no Ran' mod that doesn't work with the current version, and the thing works a treat. :D

PineTar

03-14-2009, 11:46 AM

$7.99 on Gamersgate (http://gamersgate.com/index.php?page=product&what=view&sku=DD-TWMB)this weekend for anyone that still hasn't picked this up.

chesapeake

03-16-2009, 09:32 AM

I picked this up. I played it for an hour on Saturday and literally got motion sickness while doing the horse training run. That hasn't happened to me since the first Dark Forces came out in the '90s.

I turned on more light, moved myself back from the monitor and played for a couple of hours last night without incident. The game has promise. But I sure do suck at mounted combat.

JPhillips

03-16-2009, 09:50 AM

I suck with anything other than a lance type weapon. With a couched lance you just run slightly left of people and do tremendous damage. Even if you aim poorly you'll likely trample them!

Icy

03-29-2009, 12:29 PM

Going to play it a bit today for first time, besides that link with the 82 little tweaks, is there any essential mods i should get?

Groundhog

03-29-2009, 05:15 PM

I think the Star Wars: Calradia mod is pretty sweet.

chesapeake

03-30-2009, 09:13 AM

I suck with anything other than a lance type weapon. With a couched lance you just run slightly left of people and do tremendous damage. Even if you aim poorly you'll likely trample them!

This makes combat so easy it almost seems like an exploit -- as long as you avoid getting surrounded. What does it say about me that my eyes light up and I cackle gleefully when I spot a foot soldier with his back to me just as I'm nearing full gallop?

JPhillips

03-30-2009, 09:15 AM

When I come in at a right angle to a line of infantry and crash through the whole lot, killing one or two and trampling the rest, I truly understand joy.

RomaGoth

08-10-2009, 12:30 PM

Anyone still playing this? I came across it while browsing games on Amazon, and was wondering if it is worth a look.

MrBug708

08-10-2009, 01:11 PM

I played about an hour last week. Still had a lot of fun running around attacking people and palces. Worth it at 20 or less

gstelmack

08-10-2009, 01:17 PM

I keep meaning to launch it again, but then Plants vs Zombies calls a bit louder, and the plants in my Zen Garden start yelling for water, and I'm screwed.

RomaGoth

08-10-2009, 01:42 PM

I played about an hour last week. Still had a lot of fun running around attacking people and palces. Worth it at 20 or less

Amazon has it for $7, while the "official" website has it listed for $30 :eek:

Radii

08-10-2009, 02:09 PM

Absolutely worth it for $7.

MrBug708

08-10-2009, 02:51 PM

For sure. You could probably get 7 dollars out of it in an hour.

RomaGoth

08-10-2009, 03:04 PM

Cool. I read this entire thread after finding out about the game, and the conversation here seems to really pump up the game. It looks good, I am going to try it out.

Thanks guys.

RomaGoth

09-14-2009, 09:49 AM

Finally started playing this game yesterday after downloading it a few weeks ago. It is a riot. I love riding a horse by foot soldiers and lopping off their heads with my sword.

Blade6119

09-14-2009, 10:16 AM

But I sure do suck at mounted combat.

Its the exact opposite for me, I dominate on a horse while being merely average on foot. Ive gotten a lot better on foot recently thanks to telling myself I needed practice, but anything other then 1 on 1 and im boned.

I had to start a new game, as I had an army of 150 full Vaegir Knights and we just conquered at will. It was fun for a little while, but battles lost their appeal as my troops simply rolled through opposing armies and castles like clockwork.

RomaGoth

10-17-2009, 11:24 AM

Is there a preferred faction in native mode (no mods)? I have yet to see a real difference.

gstelmack

10-17-2009, 11:55 AM

Is there a preferred faction in native mode (no mods)? I have yet to see a real difference.

I've been enjoying starting as the Vaegirs, mostly because you get to fight easy looters at the start instead of difficult Sea Raiders.

PilotMan

10-18-2009, 08:14 AM

gstelmack

10-18-2009, 08:47 AM

I have given this a couple of go arounds but for some reason I just can't get into it. I have been doing pretty good in mounted combat, but have still been captured twice. Without any direction, I can't find a starting point.

Your goal is to build up a large army. Your methods for doing this are beating up on bands of brigands, asking lords, ladies, and leaders of villages if they have tasks to complete, buying/selling goods to raise money, and eventually getting in good with a king (by doing tasks for him) and he'll give you a fief to run. When you get a strong enough army you can start taking over castles yourself.

RomaGoth

10-18-2009, 12:23 PM

I've been enjoying starting as the Vaegirs, mostly because you get to fight easy looters at the start instead of difficult Sea Raiders.

So do you swear allegiance to them then? If so, is there a way to change factions?

Also, anyone know if it matters what faction your men are from? For example, if I am sworn to the Vaegirs, does it make a difference if I have Swadians in my army (i.e., will they revolt or leave my army if we are at war the Swadians)?

gstelmack

10-18-2009, 02:08 PM

So do you swear allegiance to them then? If so, is there a way to change factions?

Also, anyone know if it matters what faction your men are from? For example, if I am sworn to the Vaegirs, does it make a difference if I have Swadians in my army (i.e., will they revolt or leave my army if we are at war the Swadians)?

I usually swear allegiance to the King of my choice and take on the tasks he gives me as a result, that's how you get a fiefdom. I don't think that's critical though, you can just build an army and conquer castles yourself as well.

As to factions, I have yet to see it make a difference among the foot soldiers, but any "companions" you pick up can have differences that lead to little events you have to settle and possibly drive one or more of them out of the party. I've also had it affect morale if I invite prisoners into the party.

Greyroofoo

10-18-2009, 02:36 PM

So do you swear allegiance to them then? If so, is there a way to change factions?

I believe you can swear allegiance to them as a mercenary captain or as a lord. You can leave an oath by talking to the leader of the faction I think.

Calis

10-25-2009, 05:46 PM

Polished Landscapes - Mipmap Mod 2 [new screenshots pg.22] (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=76706.msg2085537#msg2085537)

I don't consider myself much of a graphics whore but man do those landscape mods look amazing.

Hell of a graphical overhaul.

JPhillips

10-25-2009, 06:10 PM

Wow.

Groundhog

10-25-2009, 06:26 PM

Gives me a reason to fire this game up again.

MrBug708

10-25-2009, 11:51 PM

Holy

Crap

10-26-2009, 08:17 AM

I'll be happy when/if it's done

gstelmack

12-10-2009, 12:42 PM

I was getting bored with my band ripping through even much larger enemy armies with very little damage, except for town / castle assaults which I don't do much, so I finally went in and set damage to myself and friends to normal from 1/4 and 1/2. Wow, does that make a HUGE difference in play. I have to be much more tactical now, and watch letting my calvary get mixed up with infantry unless supported. Have to do a lot more of letting the enemy get close to my infanty / archer line, THEN charge in with the calvary. And I can't be nearly as careless. Lots more tactics and thinking involved in the fights, and much harder to develop a dominating army as I keep losing knights at roughly the same rate I'm developing them.

And castle / town assaults are truly murder. We finally took Sargoth (the Nords are now down to just Tihr) but I lost over half my men doing it in addition to heavy allied casualties. And it took two assaults when I got knocked out in the first one.

You need to really work hard to stay alive as your soldiers take much heavier casualties when you're not in the fight to manage them.

12-10-2009, 02:10 PM

Going to try that and see the challenge difference, was getting bored at the lower difficulty. Probably have to min/max my character more too.

hukarez

12-31-2009, 11:18 AM

Just picked this up off of Steam for $15 or so! Totally new at this, so I'm still trying to figure out what to do and how to go about doing it. Is there a Wiki or some sort to start off on this?

scooter

12-31-2009, 03:19 PM

I don't have the game, but I used this for the demo:

Mount&Blade StrategyWiki, the free strategy guide and walkthrough wiki (http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Mount%26Blade)

gstelmack

12-31-2009, 04:06 PM

Just picked this up off of Steam for $15 or so! Totally new at this, so I'm still trying to figure out what to do and how to go about doing it. Is there a Wiki or some sort to start off on this?

The Taleworlds (developer) forum has a set of FAQs and a "Start Here" forum with lots of good basic info beyond what you'll find us discussing above. It's helped me with a few things beyond the basics (like which NPCs get along with each other and so what the best groupings are to collect).

hukarez

12-31-2009, 05:13 PM

Most excellent! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, fellas!

gstelmack

02-19-2010, 02:26 PM

Groundhog

02-22-2010, 04:41 PM

Mount&Blade Warband Now Open to Everyone with a Valid Serial - Paradox Interactive Forums (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460825)

Warband hits open beta for those who own a copy.

Thanks for posting this. I have had just about zero free time the past week or so but I found 30 mins to play this last night. Holy crap, multiplayer M&B is a LOT of fun.

There are a couple of different modes but I was playing one mode (can't recall the name) where it's like a big battle, you respawn after 5 seconds and it's the first team to tally 200 kills. The worst thing about the single player game is the poor AI, so playing against other humans makes this an entirely new game. There is at least one new civ in the game too, a Sultanate.

Blade6119

02-23-2010, 02:02 PM

Thanks for posting this. I have had just about zero free time the past week or so but I found 30 mins to play this last night. Holy crap, multiplayer M&B is a LOT of fun.

There are a couple of different modes but I was playing one mode (can't recall the name) where it's like a big battle, you respawn after 5 seconds and it's the first team to tally 200 kills. The worst thing about the single player game is the poor AI, so playing against other humans makes this an entirely new game. There is at least one new civ in the game too, a Sultanate.

I played this for almost 2 hours this morning and it was a blast. The difficulty level with humans is dramatically higher then the game, and it made me quickly adapt and improve to survive let alone succeed. The cavalry tactics of single player are not nearly as effective here, as humans are smart enough to cut your horse down quickly. Really adds a whole new dimension to the game :p

Groundhog

02-23-2010, 04:45 PM

I played this for almost 2 hours this morning and it was a blast. The difficulty level with humans is dramatically higher then the game, and it made me quickly adapt and improve to survive let alone succeed. The cavalry tactics of single player are not nearly as effective here, as humans are smart enough to cut your horse down quickly. Really adds a whole new dimension to the game :p

Played it again for 20 mins last night (seriously, lack of spare time at the moment sucks ass). Initial impressions are that the Khergit are over-powered, especially on maps with a lot of open ground, but I guess that's realistic. We played Khergit vs Rhodock in an open plain, and it was a massacre, we (Rhodock) didn't win a single game. Khergit mounted archers are more accurate than the other races unmounted archer troops.

Having said that, this game is very, very good.

Blade6119

02-23-2010, 05:29 PM

Played it again for 20 mins last night (seriously, lack of spare time at the moment sucks ass). Initial impressions are that the Khergit are over-powered, especially on maps with a lot of open ground, but I guess that's realistic. We played Khergit vs Rhodock in an open plain, and it was a massacre, we (Rhodock) didn't win a single game. Khergit mounted archers are more accurate than the other races unmounted archer troops.

Having said that, this game is very, very good.

I agree on the open plains maps factions like Khergit and Swadia are stronger due to their knights, but on maps like the town with a bunch of small corridors or the one with 2 large hills right next to each other i have found the rhodoks and nords stronger. So its balances out in my mind from the limited time I have spent.

thesloppy

02-23-2010, 05:31 PM

So, after all the glowing talk about the multi-player demo, I downloaded it a couple days ago, and keep planning to trying it out, but while it was downloading I also grabbed a couple mods. I still haven't had the chance to try the multi-player, cuz I got COMPLETELY sucked in by 1866, the western mod:

1866: a Mount and Blade Western (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,88669.0.html)

As you might expect from the name and description, firearms have been added, widely expanded, and are now the main focus of combat, and it works surprisingly well. There are single shot pistols, shotguns, carbines, revolvers, revolving rifles, as well as new (but more traditional) melee weapons, and bows and arrows...oh yeah, and DYNAMITE (I've got a companion named 'the clown', who just rides around tossing bundles of dynamite at people. AWESOME)! The map is split between American, Mexican, Comanche, and Apache territory, with a scattering of independent outlaw and lawman 'tribes' that also control smaller properties (in the form of banks, hotels, and ranches) associated with the larger towns. All the terrain has been redone, in a western style, and you can have massive shootouts in the middle of deep canyons, on bridges, on Indian reservations, and they look great and are a little more tactically challenging, as well. Historical names and places....I was picking Apache scout off the top of a mesa with General Custer earlier today.

I highly recommend.

Antmeister

03-30-2010, 11:19 AM

So...how many people purchased Warband? For the past week, I have been playing this game way too much and for those that have pre-purchased Warband, how does it compare to the previous version?

gstelmack

03-30-2010, 11:27 AM

Purchased? I MISSED THE ANNOUNCEMENT !?!?!?!

Sigh, and I just bought Just Cause 2. Going to have to figure this one out.

gstelmack

03-30-2010, 11:34 AM

Okay, so it's a prepurchase and will actually be available tomorrow. Phew, didn't miss anything yet. I will be buying soon one way or another.

Antmeister

03-30-2010, 11:37 AM

Okay, so it's a prepurchase and will actually be available tomorrow. Phew, didn't miss anything yet. I will be buying soon one way or another.

LOL! Yeah, today is the last day to preorder it. Sorry about that.

Antmeister

03-30-2010, 01:34 PM

Uh....well it looks like it is available now from Direct2Drive (http://www.direct2drive.com/2/9170/product/Buy-Mount-and-Blade:-Warband-Download).

Antmeister

03-30-2010, 01:40 PM

And the developers are selling it directly from their site:
Mount & Blade: Warband (http://www.taleworlds.com/main.aspx)

MrBug708

03-30-2010, 01:57 PM

Only 5 days til the download is complete!

Blade6119

03-30-2010, 11:55 PM

So...how many people purchased Warband? For the past week, I have been playing this game way too much and for those that have pre-purchased Warband, how does it compare to the previous version?

I played in the Beta for a loong time and the single player for me would not be worth the price of a new game. Many changes are ultimately minor or cosmetic, with the only big feature sticking out to me being able to take over your own faction and make your companions vassals. The multiplayer is a blast, but I have grown tired of the limited variability existing at present. Its great fun for awhile, but since their are so few maps they grow repetitive quickly. Honestly, its worth 30 dollars for the multiplayer, but just barely.