The Official 2008 FOFC Red River Rivalry Trash Talk Thread

[Vegas Vic]

It's been an annual tradition here at FOFC, and the stakes couldn't be higher this year: #1 Oklahoma vs. #5 Texas at the Cotton Bowl. ESPN College Gameday will be there, along with this fired up Longhorn fan:


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[MJ4H]

This will be an amazing game this year. Both teams look incredible so far.

[sooner333]

I wish it were Saturday morning already. Although the anticipation is part of what makes this week so fun. I really can't wait until Friday to head down to Dallas. This rivalry has so many special traditions that it's hard to imagine there being a better one out there. Boomer Sooner!

[duckman]

Oklahoma 57531
Texas -3


:p

[cartman]

I wish it were Saturday morning already. Although the anticipation is part of what makes this week so fun.

+infinity

This is one of the great weeks of the year. Rivalry games don't get much better than this. And when both teams have been playing at a high level like these two have so far this year, it just amps up the anticipation that much more. With the Cotton Bowl now holding over 90,000, the atmosphere should be incredible.

[larrymcg421]

Oklahoma 57531
Texas -3


:p

"Ditka will find a way."

[Vegas Vic]

This is one of the great weeks of the year. Rivalry games don't get much better than this. And when both teams have been playing at a high level like these two have so far this year, it just amps up the anticipation that much more. With the Cotton Bowl now holding over 90,000, the atmosphere should be incredible.

For those who aren't familiar with this rivalry, the Cotton Bowl in Dallas is equidistant from Norman, OK and Austin, TX (about 175 miles from each campus). The tickets are split 50/50, and unlike most neutral sites, the split is on the 50 yard line, not in the end zone.

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[Karlifornia]

The Redneck River Shootout is this week? Let's get to the video roundup!!!

Fans that aren't from places like Oklahoma usually drink champagne, or aged scotch, to celebrate a local team victory. In GarthBrooksville, they do it differently:


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Here is a little clip of the University of Texas at Austin and Oklahoma University debate teams hashing out a civil disagreement:

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And here is the new provost at the University of Texas (Austin) rooting on the Horns:
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[Vegas Vic]

After a rousing pep talk from head coach Barry Switzer, quarterback Troy Aikman and linebacker Brian Bosworth lead the Sooners to victory in 1985.


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[cartman]

I don't think the "pep" in the 80s Sooners locker room came from talks...

:D

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Meh. Neither team will represent the Big 12 in the national championship game.

[sooner333]

Meh. Neither team will represent the Big 12 in the national championship game.

Kansas?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Kansas?

OU diploma?

[Vegas Vic]

Meh. Neither team will represent the Big 12 in the national championship game.

This is coming from a fan of a team that is 3-30 (.091) against Oklahoma since 1970, and is 0-7 against Bob Stoops, including 0-2 last year. :lol:

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

This is coming from a fan of a team that is 3-30 (.091) against Oklahoma since 1970, and is 0-7 against Bob Stoops, including 0-2 last year. :lol:

And hadn't won against Nebraska since.......oh, wait.

The Big 12 championship will not be played in Texas this year, nor will it resemble anything remotely neutral.

[Huckleberry]

College football new money is funny.

[Vegas Vic]

And hadn't won against Nebraska since.......oh, wait.

You're likening the creampuff that you beat in Lincoln this year to those Tom Osborne juggernauts that used to wipe the field with you guys?

And I thought Texas A&M had delusional fans.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You're likening the creampuff that you beat in Lincoln this year to those Tom Osborne juggernauts that used to wipe the field with you guys?

And I thought Texas A&M had delusional fans.

On the contrary. I thought you were smarter than that. I'm saying that the past matters little. OU and MU are both good teams, but we're playing at Arrowhead this year, which is the same stadium where they'll play the week before that against Kansas. The crowd will be at least 65% MU fans. It's a whole different situation than what happened last year.

[Vegas Vic]

OU and MU are both good teams, but we're playing at Arrowhead this year, which is the same stadium where they'll play the week before that against Kansas. The crowd will be at least 65% MU fans. It's a whole different situation than what happened last year.

It will also be a different situation in that OU won't have to beat the same team twice in one year. However, to get back to your statement about Arrowhead Stadium -- in 2000, OU beat #2 Kansas State during the regular season, then beat them again at Arrowhead Stadium in the Big XII Championship game, where over 2/3 of the crowd were KSU fans.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

It will also be a different situation in that OU won't have to beat the same team twice in one year. However, to get back to your statement about Arrowhead Stadium -- in 2000, OU beat #2 Kansas State during the regular season, then beat them again at Arrowhead Stadium in the Big XII Championship game, where over 2/3 of the crowd were KSU fans.

No question that OU (or UT for that matter) will have earned it if they pull it off, but it's obviously a much different situation than last year's title game. I don't need to tell a Vegas resident that the home team (or closer to home team) is at an advantage.

[Huckleberry]

It will also be a different situation in that OU won't have to beat the same team twice in one year. However, to get back to your statement about Arrowhead Stadium -- in 2000, OU beat #2 Kansas State during the regular season, then beat them again at Arrowhead Stadium in the Big XII Championship game, where over 2/3 of the crowd were KSU fans.

How did the 2003 game in Arrowhead go? I wish I would have cared about a championship game in Arrowhead before. Maybe someday. ;)

Also, did you know that Missouri's North Division championship in football last year was the first time they had won any of the following Big 12 titles?:

Football Division Championship
Basketball Regular Season Championship
Basketball Tournament Championship
Baseball Regular Season Championship
Baseball Tournament Championship

They were the last school to win one of the above. I think they still have two softball championships as their only Big 12 titles. Two conference championships out of around 340 handed out in the first 12 years of the conference.

I may have posted this here before, but that fact amazes me. Missouri is a program that I think of as fairly strong. That they have fewer conference titles than any other program is weird.

[Butter]

Is Missouri playing in the game this weekend too? If not, can we STFU about Missouri?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

How did the 2003 game in Arrowhead go? I wish I would have cared about a championship game in Arrowhead before. Maybe someday. ;)

Also, did you know that Missouri's North Division championship in football last year was the first time they had won any of the following Big 12 titles?:

Football Division Championship
Basketball Regular Season Championship
Basketball Tournament Championship
Baseball Regular Season Championship
Baseball Tournament Championship

They were the last school to win one of the above. I think they still have two softball championships as their only Big 12 titles. Two conference championships out of around 340 handed out in the first 12 years of the conference.

I may have posted this here before, but that fact amazes me. Missouri is a program that I think of as fairly strong. That they have fewer conference titles than any other program is weird.

Up until recently with the major fundraising implemented by Alden, Mizzou had one of the bottom 3 budgets in the Big 12. Their budget was only 1/6th what Texas had. It's not all that hard to see why Mizzou wasn't competitive in the Big 12 in the sports you mention up until recently, when they've had substantial improvements to facilities in football, basketball, and baseball, and have tripled their operating budget. It's amazing what a little money can do for your programs.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Is Missouri playing in the game this weekend too? If not, can we STFU about Missouri?

I'm amazed that a game between the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the Big 12 warrants its own thread.

[Vegas Vic]

Is Missouri playing in the game this weekend too? If not, can we STFU about Missouri?

Yeah, this isn't exactly what I had planned for this thread. I was hoping to get some trash talk from Cartman, Huckleberry, IMetTrentGreen, Senator, hell, even Hornsmaniac if he chose to come back.

For you non-OU or non-Texas fans, this rivalry isn't about political correctness and sportsmanship (like OU/Nebraska). Mutual hatred and trash talking is an integral part of the rivalry, and it's part of getting into the spirit of the Red River Rivalry. :D

[Huckleberry]

I'm amazed that a game between the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the Big 12 warrants its own thread.

This is just so darn cute coming from a Tiger fan. :lol:

Vic -

OU sucks.

[Dr. Sak]

Last time I checked Missouri hasn't won a conference championship since 1969, but by the way their fans act, you'd think they are a great program with a longstanding winning tradition.

[Lathum]

Can someone explain to me the relevance of what any college football team accomplished 5 years ago or 8 years ago when not one player from either of those teams is still on the team ( barring any odd redshirt situation)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Last time I checked Missouri hasn't won a conference championship since 1969, but by the way their fans act, you'd think they are a great program with a longstanding winning tradition.

Mizzou doesn't need a long-standing winning tradition to stomp a mudhole in OU or UT when they enter Arrowhead later this year.

[JeeberD]

Man, I need to edit the name of this thread. PC bullshit sucks...

[Cuckoo]

Mizzou doesn't need a long-standing winning tradition to stomp a mudhole in OU or UT when they enter Arrowhead later this year.

Someone needs to pull out some of your gems from before the last two times Mizzou was supposed to blow away OU.

The part that makes me want to vomit is that the OU fans and Texas fans are in solidarity in this thread against Missouri. Get MBBF out of here so we can go back to hating each other, the way God intended. :D

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Someone needs to pull out some of your gems from before the last two times Mizzou was supposed to blow away OU.

The part that makes me want to vomit is that the OU fans and Texas fans are in solidarity in this thread against Missouri. Get MBBF out of here so we can go back to hating each other, the way God intended. :D

Without question, your first comment is totally without merit. OU was favored in both of those games. There was literally no one that claimed that MU would 'blow out' OU, including myself.

I agree that OU and UT fans should get back to bashing each other. Someone has to take the mantle of '1st Loser' in this conference.

[Huckleberry]

Someone has to take the mantle of '1st Loser' in this conference.

Why? Are your arms getting tired?

[Noop]

I'm amazed that a game between the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the Big 12 warrants its own thread.

Really? I think your a little of base with that comment because from what i have seen so far this season OU would likely beat you guys by 14+ and Texas would give you all a tough game.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Really? I think your a little of base with that comment because from what i have seen so far this season OU would likely beat you guys by 14+ and Texas would give you all a tough game.

I thought this was a trash talking thread.

FWIW......OU and MU are pretty much on par at this point. Texas is a small step behind, but they're still awfully good and could make the Sooner faithful fall into a deep depression with a win.

[Dr. Sak]

Really? I think your a little of base with that comment because from what i have seen so far this season OU would likely beat you guys by 14+ and Texas would give you all a tough game.

NOT THEY WOULDN'T. CHASE DANIELS WOULD THROW ALL OVER BOTH TEAMS. MIZZOU IS THE GREATEST OFFENSE EVER TO PLAY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL. CHASE DANIELS WALKS ON WATER. JEREMY MACLIN ONCE BEAT SUPERMAN IN A RACE AND MACLIN HAD 3 SPRAINED ANKLES.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Why? Are your arms getting tired?

We've already turned in the 1st Loser trophy back to conference officials. Certainly not the trophy we're planning on retrieving this year.

FWIW.....We're going to have a great idea of where all these teams stand in relation to each other after Mizzou plays Texas.

[Dr. Sak]

Can someone explain to me the relevance of what any college football team accomplished 5 years ago or 8 years ago when not one player from either of those teams is still on the team ( barring any odd redshirt situation)

IMO it is about tradition. I think teams that have been historically good have a right to trash talk while the ones that have only popped up in a few years, shouldn't be so arrogant.

Btw, it's funny that you mention this because you jump all over Phillies fans when they talk trash and haven't won anything (as far as Championships) as compared to the Mets. But last time I checked Doc Gooden and Tom Seaver are long gone. ;)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

NOT THEY WOULDN'T. CHASE DANIELS WOULD THROW ALL OVER BOTH TEAMS. MIZZOU IS THE GREATEST OFFENSE EVER TO PLAY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL. CHASE DANIELS WALKS ON WATER. JEREMY MACLIN ONCE BEAT SUPERMAN IN A RACE AND MACLIN HAD 3 SPRAINED ANKLES.

Don't over exaggerate. Maclin had two sprained ankles. Everything else is spot on.

[Lathum]

IMO it is about tradition. I think teams that have been historically good have a right to trash talk while the ones that have only popped up in a few years, shouldn't be so arrogant.

Btw, it's funny that you mention this because you jump all over Phillies fans when they talk trash and haven't won anything (as far as Championships) as compared to the Mets. But last time I checked Doc Gooden and Tom Seaver are long gone. ;)

I'm all for trash talking, tradition, etc... but it seems to me people are putting it in a much more factual way in this instance. Almost making it seem like Missouri cant beat OU because OU stomped them in 2000.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'm all for trash talking, tradition, etc... but it seems to me people are putting it in a much more factual way in this instance. Almost making it seem like Missouri cant beat OU because OU stomped them in 2000.

OU won last year, which might bear a bit more relevance. :)

[Butter]

JEREMY MACLIN ONCE BEAT SUPERMAN IN A RACE AND MACLIN HAD 3 SPRAINED ANKLES.

:D

[Lathum]

Put it in the books.

10/1 Mizzou is going down at Baylor.

[Huckleberry]

IMO it is about tradition. I think teams that have been historically good have a right to trash talk while the ones that have only popped up in a few years, shouldn't be so arrogant.

Btw, it's funny that you mention this because you jump all over Phillies fans when they talk trash and haven't won anything (as far as Championships) as compared to the Mets. But last time I checked Doc Gooden and Tom Seaver are long gone. ;)

How about the fact that the head coaches are still the same and some major components of both coaching staffs are still the same (unfortunately for Texas in one glaring example)? There is definitely some relevance from games 5 and 8 years ago in the Texas/OU situation, for example.

By the way, I put up the following information in a couple of other places that was interesting to note:

I'm not betting the house on a win or anything, but it's weird that nobody pays any attention to what's happened recently. Basically since Carl Reese retired. Since that happened, OU has scored, in order:

12 (34.77, 17.9, 25.75, 27.06)
12 (26.92, 16.4, 25.75, 17.43)
10 (30.29, 18.3, 23.01, 25.78)
28 (42.29, 25.3, 27.06, 41.04)

In parentheses is the average number of points per game that OU scored, we allowed, the national average in those years, then the log5 expectation for the number of points OU should have scored against us. I'll admit, I'm a little worried about our defense in this game because of OU's holding and Bradford's accuracy. But as shown above, OU has failed to do even what they were supposed to do against our defense the past four years. Only once have they even been within a touchdown of their expected point total against us, and that was during a 45-12 asskicking in 2005.

Don't get me started on OU's systemic and clearly coached holding strategy. As explained on this board before, I think it's on our staff to stop being such pussies and make a big deal out of it. So I don't blame OU's staff for doing something that helps them win that nobody does anything about. Plus it makes their asskickings in bowl games called by non-Big 12 officials more entertaining. ;)

Oh, and for the record, this model does not account for schedule difficulty. I say that because I just ran the Texas offensive numbers and here they are (same time frame but this one can be described as "since Mike Stoops left Oklahoma"):

2004 - 0 (35.25, 16.8, 25.75, 24.07)
2005 - 45 (50.15, 23.1, 25.75, 46.56)
2006 - 28 (35.92, 17.3, 23.01, 28.18)
2007 - 21 (37.23, 20.3, 27.06, 28.94)

Expected Texas total this weekend based on the model is 31.19 points. Of course, my overall ratings say that Texas will lose by 12.55 points despite the apparent 2.5 point advantage in this model. Essentially our schedule has not been nearly as hard as Oklahoma's from a raw point totals perspective. Let's hope that this model is right and the ratings are wrong. After all, the ratings say that our schedule has been nearly as hard but we haven't dominated the same. I'm inclined to say that the points total model is less optimized than the ratings, but that's no fun. What's Texas/OU without hope?

And since someone will probably wonder, I called it a log5 method, but it's obviously modified with some tweaking required. Seems to work out logically, though.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Put it in the books.

10/1 Mizzou is going down at Baylor.

Kenny Gregory agrees.

[Vegas Vic]

FWIW......OU and MU are pretty much on par at this point. Texas is a small step behind, but they're still awfully good and could make the Sooner faithful fall into a deep depression with a win.

As much as it pains me to have to defend Texas, they are undefeated under Mack Brown the week following the OU game. The Missouri/Texas game is in Austin, and Texas has a markedly better defense and defensive coordinator than Missouri, and that will be the difference in that game.

Now, back to the trash talking.....

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

As much as it pains me to have to defend Texas, they are undefeated under Mack Brown the week following the OU game.

That's obviously a flashy stat to throw around each year in Vegas, but it holds very little value overall. There's some tremendous stinkers in there. Out of all of those games you mention, the matchup in 2002 vs. KSU and the 2005 matchup against Mizzou ay nd Brad Smith were the only meaningful matchups against good opponents (and Mizzou fans would likely argue that Mizzou wasn't even that much of a matchup. They won those two matchups by a combined 11 points. They won, but neither win was overwhelming. The rest of the games would have been a major upset if Texas lost them, hence the reason the stat isn't all that convincing.

[Huckleberry]

That's obviously a flashy stat to throw around each year in Vegas, but it holds very little value overall. There's some tremendous stinkers in there. Out of all of those games you mention, the matchup in 2002 vs. KSU and the 2005 matchup against Mizzou ay nd Brad Smith were the only meaningful matchups against good opponents (and Mizzou fans would likely argue that Mizzou wasn't even that much of a matchup. They won those two matchups by a combined 11 points. They won, but neither win was overwhelming. The rest of the games would have been a major upset if Texas lost them, hence the reason the stat isn't all that convincing.

:confused:

Games after OU under Brown:

1998: Beat Baylor 30-20 on the road (stinker)
1999: Beat Nebraska 24-20 at home (Nebraska won the Big 12 and finished the year 12-1 after beating Tennessee in the Fiesta Bowl)
2000: Beat Colorado 28-14 on the road (stinker)
2001: Beat Oklahoma St. 45-17 on the road (stinker)
2002: Beat Kansas St. 17-14 on the road (Kansas St. finished 11-2)
2003: Beat Iowa St. 40-19 on the road (stinker)
2004: Beat Missouri 28-20 at home (stinker)
2005: Beat Colorado 42-17 at home (Colorado won the North and was 4-1 and ranked)
2006: Beat Baylor 63-13 at home (stinker)
2007: Beat Iowa St. 56-3 on the road (stinker)

There are two very big wins in there and one fairly big win. I think it's funny you included 2004 (not 2005) Missouri but not 1999 Nebraska. Seriously? I think you probably overlooked 1999.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

:confused:

Games after OU under Brown:

1998: Beat Baylor 30-20 on the road (stinker)
1999: Beat Nebraska 24-20 at home (Nebraska won the Big 12 and finished the year 12-1 after beating Tennessee in the Fiesta Bowl)
2000: Beat Colorado 28-14 on the road (stinker)
2001: Beat Oklahoma St. 45-17 on the road (stinker)
2002: Beat Kansas St. 17-14 on the road (Kansas St. finished 11-2)
2003: Beat Iowa St. 40-19 on the road (stinker)
2004: Beat Missouri 28-20 at home (stinker)
2005: Beat Colorado 42-17 at home (Colorado won the North and was 4-1 and ranked)
2006: Beat Baylor 63-13 at home (stinker)
2007: Beat Iowa St. 56-3 on the road (stinker)

There are two very big wins in there and one fairly big win. I think it's funny you included 2004 (not 2005) Missouri but not 1999 Nebraska. Seriously? I think you probably overlooked 1999.

I went to 2000. I thought Brown came on then, but obviously I was mistaken. Either way, your list proves the point. That stat is making it seem like more than it really is. 3 good wins in 11 games (I noted that the Mizzou win was even a weak one in my post. Those betting line stats are always a bit silly. If you play a good team one week, the odds are that you're going to face a lesser opponent the next week.

[Vegas Vic]

OK, enough of the threadjack by the Big XII North wannabe, it's less than 72 hours to kickoff!

"Make it Stop!!!"

And yes, "He Who Walks on Water" speaks at the 1:30 mark. :lol:

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[vex]

Found an interesting stat that I hope stays true.

Since Stoops arrived, the higher ranked team has won everytime.

[sooner333]

Missouri fans are starting to act like Tech fans. I thought we had enough trash in the league, but I guess not.

Anyway, back to the game at hand...should be a good one, I can't wait, and texas still sucks.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Missouri fans are starting to act like Tech fans. I thought we had enough trash in the league, but I guess not.

And the rest of the Big 12 can confirm that Oklahoma fans have never changed, even during the Blake years. They're still pompous and arrogant as they always have been.

[Vegas Vic]

An OU fan's own personal hell at the 2007 RRR

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[duckman]

And the rest of the Big 12 can confirm that Oklahoma fans have never changed, even during the Blake years. They're still pompous and arrogant as they always have been.
And your point is??????


BOOMER!

[Dr. Sak]

I hate living in Big East land. Instead of this great game I will get to see the great matchup of Rutgers and Cincinnati. What the fuck?!?!

[Huckleberry]

I made up a poem in honor of the game tomorrow.

Roses are red
OU sucks

[Cuckoo]

Saw this on another forum. According to ESPN Insider:

"Oklahoma's defense should be prepared for a pooch punt. McCoy has punted once and placed the ball inside the 20-yard line."

Uh-oh... Texas is holding NOTHING back. :D

[Cuckoo]

DOLA

Then there's this from Dr. Lou last night:

"All of those orange fans up there. I would say to our players, they wear orange so they can cheer for their team. They'll wear the same orange outfit tomorrow to go hunting. And they'll wear the same orange outfit the last five days of the week in order to pick up trash."

[MJ4H]

Oklahoma fans are bringing it. Come on Texas fans.

[Vegas Vic]

Oklahoma fans are bringing it. Come on Texas fans.

They're already in the Greg Davis fetal position. :devil:

[Big Fo]

I hate living in Big East land. Instead of this great game I will get to see the great matchup of Rutgers and Cincinnati. What the fuck?!?!

That's tragic. In ACC/SEC country we still get to see Oklahoma - Texas.

[duckman]

I'm giving 2 bonus points for every point OU beats Texas by in my class.


So please think of the children!

[duckman]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/duckman76/TuckFexas.jpg

[cartman]

Oklahoma fans are bringing it. Come on Texas fans.

I hadn't looked in this thread for a few days. Last I checked the thread had turned into a MBBF masturbation fest.

Somebody tell this kid there's no crying in football!

http://lastrow.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/agony-of-defeat.jpg

"But daddy, you told me Big Game Bob never loses! Why did you lie to me!"

[Vegas Vic]

Will Muschamp has menstrual cramps!

[GrantDawg]

Dang, that kick-off Td was just sad. OU never even came close to touching him.

[BishopMVP]

Worst roughing the passer call in history? At least they were held to a FG attempt.

Besides that, great game so far. Quan Cosby is legit, both teams are legit, and I'd love to see some real showdowns between these Big 12 offenses and the SEC defenses .

[Senator]

go

[Vegas Vic]

OU is letting Texas hang around with poor special teams play and penalties. When a clearly superior team lets an inferior team hang around, that's how upsets happen. OU needs to step it up in the 2nd half.

[Big Fo]

Awesome reaction from the OU punter there to earn a first down.

[MJ4H]

Can't wait to link to that play on youtube when some soccer hater that likes american football starts crying about all the acting and faking.

[BishopMVP]

Quan Cosby is legit.He can block too! (Plus apparently showboat before the play even ends on 2-pt conversions.)

[GrantDawg]

Can't wait to link to that play on youtube when some soccer hater that likes american football starts crying about all the acting and faking.


Yeah, but punters and kickers are soccer players in pads. :)

[Noop]

Wow. Texas is going to pull off a huge upset.

[GrantDawg]

Wow. Texas is going to pull off a huge upset.


Beginning to look that way. Will Texas vault to the top?

[Noop]

I would say so... they look very good and so does Oklahoma, I would be surprised to see OU win the rest of the way.

[BishopMVP]

Beginning to look that way. Will Texas vault to the top?Don't think so yet, but it depends on how Missouri and LSU look tonight. I'm also not sure they vault an idle Alabama.

[Cuckoo]

Ugh... I can't think of a thing that can ruin my week more than a loss to Texas. It was quite a game, though (save the horrible calls on both sides). McCoy and Texas just kept coming back, and OU couldn't do the same when they needed it.

[Dr. Sak]

Guys...don't forget you all were playing for second place behind MIZZOU!

[duckman]

We got our ass kicked!

[Vegas Vic]

Congratulations to all of the Longhorn fans here at FOFC. That was one hell of a performance. The Golden Hat goes down to Austin for the next year.

[cartman]

WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Noop]

I am happy for Cartman.

[Cuckoo]

Guys...don't forget you all were playing for second place behind MIZZOU!

Man... Talk about feeling dirty. I'm going to actually root for Texas to beat Missouri. Even though it's obviously better for OU if Texas notches a couple of losses, for me it comes down to respect. I have a lot of respect for Colt McCoy and Mack Brown. I can't say the same thing for Mr. Daniels.

[Cuckoo]

We got our ass kicked!

What game did you watch? ;)

It was just a slugfest, and Texas got the killer shot at the end.

[BishopMVP]

I'm giving 2 bonus points for every point OU beats Texas by in my class.


So please think of the children!Sorry kids, the best you can get is an 80 now. Life's not fair.

[MizzouRah]

Man... Talk about feeling dirty. I'm going to actually root for Texas to beat Missouri. Even though it's obviously better for OU if Texas notches a couple of losses, for me it comes down to respect. I have a lot of respect for Colt McCoy and Mack Brown. I can't say the same thing for Mr. Daniels.

Why do you say that?

I guess I'll feel dirty too and root for Kansas to beat OU then. :rolleyes:

[Cuckoo]

Why do you say that?

I guess I'll feel dirty too and root for Kansas to beat OU then. :rolleyes:

Don't take it personally, MizzouRah. I think he's an incredibly talented player, but he's just not what I would characterize as a humble guy, as I would Colt McCoy. I tend to respect the humble players far more.

[MizzouRah]

Don't take it personally, MizzouRah. I think he's an incredibly talented player, but he's just not what I would characterize as a humble guy, as I would Colt McCoy. I tend to respect the humble players far more.

I do take it personally because I know people who know Chase and he is quite humble and quite a character guy from what I've been told.

What makes you think he's not? I'm just curious...

[Cuckoo]

What makes you think he's not? I'm just curious...

A couple of things. In that Big 12 Championship game last year, I didn't think he handled the adversity very well. He threw an interception at one point, if I remember right, and put his hands up in the air at his own receiver. When he got stopped on some runs, he was up shoving and jawing at some guys. Now, I don't have any problem with emotion in a game certainly; in fact, quite the opposite. But I thought he took it too far on a couple of occasions when he wasn't playing very well.

Then there are the interviews he has given. For example, I heard something about one in which he was talking about him being a legend at Mizzou. Another time he was asked who the best QB was in the Big 12, and he said himself. Again, I don't have a problem with confidence, but it seems that on multiple occasions he has taken it too far. Let others say you're a legend and the best in the Big 12; don't say it yourself.

All of this is just my perception, of course.

[Vegas Vic]

OU got some bad news after the game. It looks like starting middle linebacker Ryan Reynolds is out for the year. Texas' rushing game was non-existent before he went out, then they started ripping off some good rushing yardage after he left the game in the 2nd half.

[IMetTrentGreen]

What can you say? One of the best ever. Both sides played great and it finally lived up to it's hype.

[Cuckoo]

Note to OU fans... Don't go onto the message boards. They level of stupidity among some people blows my mind sometimes. Sky is falling proclamations, hatred for Stoops... Man, what a bunch of idiots.

There's a lot I'm not happy about (the result being the most obvious thing). OU didn't run the ball well, didn't come up with the big plays when they needed them, couldn't put the defensive clamp down on Texas, had plenty of stupid penalties, and came just short on a couple of potential game-changing moments.

But in college football, nothing is over. They're a good team and need to get back to work, stay focused.

Very sorry to hear about Reynolds. That kid has gone through so much, and I think that might just be the end for him. Really, really too bad.

[Karlifornia]

It's just one loss. There aren't going to be two undefeated teams in the title game. I just can't see it this year.

[MizzouRah]

A couple of things. In that Big 12 Championship game last year, I didn't think he handled the adversity very well. He threw an interception at one point, if I remember right, and put his hands up in the air at his own receiver. When he got stopped on some runs, he was up shoving and jawing at some guys. Now, I don't have any problem with emotion in a game certainly; in fact, quite the opposite. But I thought he took it too far on a couple of occasions when he wasn't playing very well.

Then there are the interviews he has given. For example, I heard something about one in which he was talking about him being a legend at Mizzou. Another time he was asked who the best QB was in the Big 12, and he said himself. Again, I don't have a problem with confidence, but it seems that on multiple occasions he has taken it too far. Let others say you're a legend and the best in the Big 12; don't say it yourself.

All of this is just my perception, of course.

I just think you like to hate on Mizzou.. and that's fine with me. :)

1. He is a legend at Mizzou
2. He is one of the best QB's in the nation
3. He has so much emotion and I love that in a leader

To each his own.. but from a fan who's team has beaten us every single year , I would expect a bit more in terms of real facts on Chase and why you don't respect him. Oh well... out of all the Big 12 teams, I like OU and how they play football.

[Vegas Vic]

Note to OU fans... Don't go onto the message boards. They level of stupidity among some people blows my mind sometimes. Sky is falling proclamations, hatred for Stoops... Man, what a bunch of idiots.

There's a lot I'm not happy about (the result being the most obvious thing). OU didn't run the ball well, didn't come up with the big plays when they needed them, couldn't put the defensive clamp down on Texas, had plenty of stupid penalties, and came just short on a couple of potential game-changing moments.

But in college football, nothing is over. They're a good team and need to get back to work, stay focused.

Very sorry to hear about Reynolds. That kid has gone through so much, and I think that might just be the end for him. Really, really too bad.

There are always the OU fair weather message board idiots who call for the coaching staff to be fired after every (rare) loss. They were the same ones crowing about OU running over everyone and going 14-0 this year. However, I saw some troubling warning signs before this game:

OU's inability to run the ball this year against good teams.

The inexplicable horrible kickoff coverage (OU was something like 100th nationally going into this game). I've never seen Stoops' OU special teams anywhere close to being this terrible, and I don't have an explanation as to why.

And finally, the razor thin depth at linebacker this year. When Ryan Reynolds went out and was replaced by Brandon Crow, it was painfully obvious that this kid had no business being on the field. He was out of position on almost every play in the 2nd half.

In the end, you have to give a lot of credit to Mack Brown, Colt McCoy and the entire Longhorn team. They played like champions in the 2nd half of this game.

And finally, I've got to give a shout to Sam Bradford in a losing effort. He threw for 387 yards and 5 TD's (the most ever by any OU quarterback against Texas). Like McCoy, the guy is a natural born leader, and he's going to continue to do great things at OU.

[Cuckoo]

I just think you like to hate on Mizzou.. and that's fine with me. :)

1. He is a legend at Mizzou
2. He is one of the best QB's in the nation
3. He has so much emotion and I love that in a leader

To each his own.. but from a fan who's team has beaten us every single year , I would expect a bit more in terms of real facts on Chase and why you don't respect him. Oh well... out of all the Big 12 teams, I like OU and how they play football.

Actually, I have nothing against Missouri at all - never have. I think Pinkel has done an incredible job building that program, and I'm really impressed with the way the administration gave him time to do it.

I'm not sure what I can do as far as "real facts" when I'm not talking about a factual issue. ;)

It's just my gut reaction to some of his actions/comments over the past couple of seasons. As I said, I don't have any problem with emotion or confidence, I'm just always a bigger fan of the quiet, actions-speak-louder-than-words kind. :)

[Senator]

yea!

[MJ4H]

So let's get back to talking about Missouri.

[Huckleberry]

Lucked into face value tickets late Friday. I was there. It was glorious.

[sooner333]

I haven't read any of the other commentary on the game, but congrats to texas on the win. It was a good game with pretty even teams. It always sucks to lose that game, but at least it was a good game that won't take us out of the national title picture. I don't think it is an outrageous statement to say that the game was between the top two teams in the nation. It's always a long drive back when your team loses though no matter how good both teams are.

Boomer Sooner!
Go Tigers.

[Vegas Vic]

Go Tigers.

I'm having a really hard time rooting for Missouri against Texas next week. I know it goes counter to everything that's in the best interest for OU, but I've got so much more respect for Colt McCoy than I do for Chase Daniel.

[cartman]

From 'Everyday Should Be Saturday' and the always awesome LSUFreek comes this gem:

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[Dr. Sak]

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