College Football Week 7 thread

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Great week for college football fans (especially ones like me that are going to Vegas this weekend).

Two huge undefeated matchups in the Big 12 this week. Florida vs. LSU in the Swamp. Also, a great Big 10 matchup and two 4-1 teams go at it in Chapel Hill in a non-conference matchup. Here's the Top 25 slate:

- Thursday, October 9, 2008 -

7:30 PM ET
Clemson (3-2, 1-1 ACC)
(21) Wake Forest (3-1, 1-0 ACC)

- Saturday, October 11, 2008 -

12:00 PM ET
(5) Texas (5-0, 1-0 Big 12)
(1) Oklahoma (5-0, 1-0 Big 12)

12:30 PM ET
Colorado (3-2, 0-1 Big 12)
(16) Kansas (4-1, 1-0 Big 12)

2:00 PM ET
(14) Utah (6-0, 2-0 MWC)
Wyoming (2-4, 0-3 MWC)

2:30 PM ET
(13) Vanderbilt (5-0, 3-0 SEC)
Mississippi St (1-4, 0-2 SEC)

3:00 PM ET
Nebraska (3-2, 0-1 Big 12)
(7) Texas Tech (5-0, 1-0 Big 12)

3:30 PM ET
Notre Dame (4-1, 0-1 away)
(22) North Carolina (4-1, 1-1 ACC)

3:30 PM ET
Purdue (2-3, 0-1 Big Ten)
(12) Ohio St (5-1, 2-0 Big Ten)

3:30 PM ET
Arizona St (2-3, 1-1 Pac-10)
(8) USC (3-1, 1-1 Pac-10)

3:30 PM ET
Tennessee (2-3, 0-2 SEC)
(10) Georgia (4-1, 1-1 SEC)

3:30 PM ET
(23) Michigan St (5-1, 2-0 Big Ten)
Northwestern (5-0, 1-0 Big Ten)

5:00 PM ET
Arkansas (2-3, 0-2 SEC)
(20) Auburn (4-2, 2-2 SEC)

6:00 PM ET
New Mexico (3-3, 1-1 MWC)
(9) Brigham Young (5-0, 1-0 MWC)

7:00 PM ET
(25) Ball St (6-0, 3-0 MAC)
Western Kentucky (2-4, 1-0 home)

8:00 PM ET
(4) LSU (4-0, 2-0 SEC)
(11) Florida (4-1, 2-1 SEC)

8:00 PM ET
(17) Oklahoma St (5-0, 1-0 Big 12)
(3) Missouri (5-0, 1-0 Big 12)

8:00 PM ET
(6) Penn St (6-0, 2-0 Big Ten)
Wisconsin (3-2, 0-2 Big Ten)

8:00 PM ET
(15) Boise St (4-0, 1-0 WAC)
Southern Miss (2-3, 0-2 C-USA)

[CamEdwards]

I can't wait for the Mizzou/OKState game Saturday night, even though I fear Oklahoma State is now heading into the ass-whuppin' portion of our schedule.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I can't wait for the Mizzou/OKState game Saturday night, even though I fear Oklahoma State is now heading into the ass-whuppin' portion of our schedule.

If it was in Stillwater, it would be a much different situation. At Mizzou, I think that Mizzou will take care of business.

[Dr. Sak]

I would bold that PSU @ Wisconsin game. Wisconsin might not be ranked but Penn State hasn't beaten Wisky on the road since 2002. And Wisconsin hasn't lost two in a row at home in awhile.

[MizzouRah]

I can't wait for the Mizzou/OKState game Saturday night, even though I fear Oklahoma State is now heading into the ass-whuppin' portion of our schedule.

It will be interesting to see this Ok St. team in action. Is this game on ESPN 2?

Red River Shootout this weekend too!

[BishopMVP]

Red River shootout at 12, two extremely talented but young teams breaking out a year early at 3:30, Charles Scott going into the Swamp and Dez Bryant vs. Jeremy Maclin for a nightcap. (A Red Sox/Rays playoff game in there somewhere.) Yup, don't think I'll be getting much done this Saturday.

[Chief Rum]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/pac10/2008/10/rick_neuheisel_has_a_good_side.html

I know Neuheisel is a bit of a controversial figure among college sports fans. You either love him (mostly just UCLA people), or you hate him (most everyone on the West Coast), or you feel he's just something bad waiting to happen (the rest of the country).

But the story above is worth reading to see a side of Slick Rick that isn't advertised too much.

[MacroGuru]

2:00 PM ET
(14) Utah (6-0, 2-0 MWC)
Wyoming (2-4, 0-3 MWC)

This is going to be a great game with a lot of attitude coming from the Wyoming side and it is being played at Laramie and the snow has already hit.

Utah ran up the score last season, even doing an onsides kick in the 4th with them way ahead to where it prompted Joe Glenn giving Kyle the one finger salute.

As for BYU, they welcome New Mexico into Provo. It should be a win, but based on the way they played Utah State, who knows.

[cartman]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR 11AM CENTRAL ON SATURDAY TO GET HERE!!!!

[Wolfpack]

3:30 PM ET
Notre Dame (4-1, 0-1 away)
(22) North Carolina (4-1, 1-1 ACC)


It's not often that I wish a 0-0 tie that ends up being called because some sort of mishap happens that prevents the game from being finished would occur, but this is one of those times....

[BishopMVP]

It's nice to see that a 3-9 season with possibly the worst offense in college football history hasn't diminished people's hate for Notre Dame :)

[Wolfpack]

It's nice to see that a 3-9 season with possibly the worst offense in college football history hasn't diminished people's hate for Notre Dame :)

I'm seriously torn about it, really. Reluctantly, I'd lean towards ND, just because I don't think I could stand it if I had to hear about how great Carolina is from the fans and the press around here. If there were a positive to Carolina winning, is that it increases the odds that Butch will leave after this year after proving his college coaching credentials and Carolina will sink back into oblivion again. Then again, as much as I would dislike the local media fawning over Carolina if they win, I'm not sure I would like the national media doing the same thing for ND if they win. :banghead:

[Chief Rum]

It's nice to see that a 3-9 season with possibly the worst offense in college football history hasn't diminished people's hate for Notre Dame :)

Well, it's fitting, considering that around 15 years of suckitude didn't stop Notre Dame fans from acting like the fans of champions. :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Well, it's fitting, considering that around 15 years of suckitude didn't stop Notre Dame fans from acting like the fans of champions. :)

LOL

[Dr. Sak]

There is only one team that I root for Notre Dame to beat and that is Pitt.

Funny thing is...I have a degree from Pitt.

[timmynausea]

Auburn fired their Offensive Coordinator Tony Franklin today after just 6 games. Yikes.

Auburn jettisons offensive coordinator Franklin - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11015959)

[GrantDawg]

Auburn fired their Offensive Coordinator Tony Franklin today after just 6 games. Yikes.

Auburn jettisons offensive coordinator Franklin - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11015959)


The two most dangerous sports jobs in football: Raiders head coach and a cordinator for Tommy Tubberville.

I like Tommy, and he has definitely been good for Auburn. But there is no one who'll throw a coach under a bus faster than Tubberville.

[MJ4H]

Sigh. Now Auburn will go back to an offense they understand. Just in time to play us. I had hope.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Auburn fired their Offensive Coordinator Tony Franklin today after just 6 games. Yikes.

Auburn jettisons offensive coordinator Franklin - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11015959)

They have to realize that a long term commitment is required to switch to that offense. There were some Mizzou fans who wanted to boot Pinkel after the first two years of the spread offense flopped. Most of us are now quite glad they waited it out.

[MJ4H]

Exactly. I'm actually quite pleased with the patience being shown to Petrino in a very similar situation. Things are obviously not going swimmingly in our situation at Arkansas, but we know that it will take some time and are willing to wait it out because we are convinced that the results will be fantastic if we do.

I think Auburn is making a big mistake, actually, and it might hurt them in the short term as well as not paying off in the long term.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Home Game 4 vs. Gardner-Webb
11 OCT 2008 at 03:30pm
Bobby Dodd Stadium at Grant Field

Price Type Price Level Qty Price Fee Cost
------------------------- ----------- --- -------- --------- ----------
Upper North Special RESERVED 4 12.00 0.00 48.00

[GrantDawg]

Home Game 4 vs. Gardner-Webb
11 OCT 2008 at 03:30pm
Bobby Dodd Stadium at Grant Field

Price Type Price Level Qty Price Fee Cost
------------------------- ----------- --- -------- --------- ----------
Upper North Special RESERVED 4 12.00 0.00 48.00


Should be a good, close game. :)

[GrantDawg]

They have to realize that a long term commitment is required to switch to that offense. There were some Mizzou fans who wanted to boot Pinkel after the first two years of the spread offense flopped. Most of us are now quite glad they waited it out.


Tommy should have known that, and never tried this in the first place. Auburn is not a place that has patience, especially with a "pass first" attack that would not be popular with the fans.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Should be a good, close game. :)

Better than staying home & watching you-know-who vs you-know-who ;)

In all seriousness though, it was kind of a spur of the moment thing today.
I got a discount-seats-available email from the mailing list, was curious, and realized that it was as good a chance to surprise my son with something unexpected on the cheap as I was going to get. And he had been bumming that we weren't going to the HS game this week because it's hell to drive from here to Cobb Co. on a Friday night for a game that ought to be a blowout well before halftime. Realizing, for the first time because I just never thought about it before, that my dad had never been to a game at Grant Field in spite of lifelong fan support of GT kind of sealed it as something that needed to be done. The 4th ticket is for my niece, who could care less about the game but wasn't going to miss a chance to see a college band - any college band - do their halftime show. (she's a HS trumpet player hoping to make drum major next year as a senior)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Realizing, for the first time because I just never thought about it before, that my dad had never been to a game at Grant Field in spite of lifelong fan support of GT kind of sealed it as something that needed to be done.

I took my grandfather and father to a college football game a year ago. Grandfather hadn't been to a college football game in 50 years. He had a blast. Great stuff. You'll have a good time with all three generations going to the game.

[tarcone]

I miss Hayden Fry.

Big weekend. If anyone has missed Missouri play, watch them. They are my favorites to win the national championship. They are so fast on offense and Daniels just doesnt miss. They are fun to watch.

[Vegas Vic]

Big weekend. If anyone has missed Missouri play, watch them. They are my favorites to win the national championship. They are so fast on offense and Daniels just doesnt miss. They are fun to watch.

What do you think of their defense?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

What do you think of their defense?

Mizzou's defense is just fine, though it seems to be your personal crusade to bad-mouth it any chance you get. Outside of the 2nd half of the Illinois game where our backup CB got torched several times, the defense has played just fine. With our offensive firepower, it's likely we'll win if the defense holds the other team to 30 points or less. Oklahoma State is a very good test for our defense. I'm pretty sure that they'll come out just fine.

I suppose that the main consolation for most Mizzou fans would be that Lee Corso agrees with you. That likely means you're dead wrong.

[MizzouRah]

When you run the spread offense, your defense is out on the field much more than if you ran another offense.

We're winning.. and that's all I really care about.

[BishopMVP]

Well, it's fitting, considering that around 15 years of suckitude didn't stop Notre Dame fans from acting like the fans of champions. :)Touche.


Clemson-Wake tonight. Anyone have any idea what's going to happen? I'll predict close Wake win, but even though they're ranked higher and at home if Clemson shows up they could win going away. Is it too soon for Clemson's yearly turnaround?

[timmynausea]

It's a tough call when a perpetual underachiever plays a perpetual overachiever, but I think Wake will take it.

[GrantDawg]

Better than staying home & watching you-know-who vs you-know-who ;)

In all seriousness though, it was kind of a spur of the moment thing today.
I got a discount-seats-available email from the mailing list, was curious, and realized that it was as good a chance to surprise my son with something unexpected on the cheap as I was going to get. And he had been bumming that we weren't going to the HS game this week because it's hell to drive from here to Cobb Co. on a Friday night for a game that ought to be a blowout well before halftime. Realizing, for the first time because I just never thought about it before, that my dad had never been to a game at Grant Field in spite of lifelong fan support of GT kind of sealed it as something that needed to be done. The 4th ticket is for my niece, who could care less about the game but wasn't going to miss a chance to see a college band - any college band - do their halftime show. (she's a HS trumpet player hoping to make drum major next year as a senior)


Ought to be a great game for you and the family then. Have fun!

[tarcone]

What do you think of their defense?

I used to think it was average. But then I saw the time of possession. The defense is on the field much more then the offense. Plus, why do you need a defense when your team is averaging 53+ points a game?
I am by no means a Missouri fan. I still think they are punks for bailing out on the Iowa contract to play Sister Mary's School of the Blind (which I believe they lost to). But, man, the speed of this team is unreal.

[JonInMiddleGA]

WTF got into Houston & UAB?

20-3 UAB at the half
45-20 Houston final.

[BishopMVP]

UMass representing at our tailgates
AMHERST, Mass.—A tailgater skinny dipping inside a truck bed at a University of Massachusetts football game has been charged with assault for allegedly kneeing a campus police officer in the groin after being told to get out of the water.


Deputy Chief Patrick Archbald said 21-year-old Marshal D.P. Keating of Edgewater, N.J., was among several fans splashing around in the back of a pickup truck before Saturday's game against the University of Delaware.
When police told them to stop, Keating initially refused to get out. Archbald says he then approached the officer and kneed him twice in the groin.
The officer, whom Archbald did not name, was given morphine at a hospital. He could miss up to two weeks of work.
Keating is charged with assault and battery on a police officer, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

[Butter]

Is it too soon for Clemson's yearly turnaround?

If I didn't say it here, then I said it somewhere else... I figured Clemson would lose last night, then run the table. They'll finish a game out of the top of the ACC yet again, but they'll finish well enough to save Tommy Bowden's job yet again.

Clemson is possibly the worst coached team in major college football. Well, they could at least give Tennessee a run for its money.

[CU Tiger]

If I didn't say it here, then I said it somewhere else... I figured Clemson would lose last night, then run the table. They'll finish a game out of the top of the ACC yet again, but they'll finish well enough to save Tommy Bowden's job yet again.

Clemson is possibly the worst coached team in major college football. Well, they could at least give Tennessee a run for its money.


Dont count on that.
President Barker flew back last night from a west coast engagement.
He, AD Terry Don Phillips, and "high ranking" School officials are in a marathon meeting right now.
Bowden is done, the question is how soon and who replaces in the interim

[Dr. Sak]

Dont count on that.
President Barker flew back last night from a west coast engagement.
He, AD Terry Don Phillips, and "high ranking" School officials are in a marathon meeting right now.
Bowden is done, the question is how soon and who replaces in the interim

Any written sources or just word of mouth?

[CU Tiger]

Any written sources or just word of mouth?

wild ass speculation ;)

[Butter]

Dont count on that.
President Barker flew back last night from a west coast engagement.
He, AD Terry Don Phillips, and "high ranking" School officials are in a marathon meeting right now.
Bowden is done, the question is how soon and who replaces in the interim

I hope you are right, man. I have had enough of this. My wife, as an alum, has DEFINITELY had enough of it too.

[CU Tiger]

I havent missed a game in person in 5 years.
Home or away.
Ive been to Boston to Tallahassee hell even to Boise Idaho

But I will not be in the stadium again until a change is made.

[Dr. Sak]

wild ass speculation ;)

Gotcha...I was looking for a little more substance so if I wrote something I could have a source.

[Celeval]

Great news! I'd much rather get brand new defensive coaches in a week before GT plays Clemson.

[CU Tiger]

Gotcha...I was looking for a little more substance so if I wrote something I could have a source.

PM sent

[Dr. Sak]

PM sent

Are you sure you sent it to the right person? :) Didn't get it yet.

[CU Tiger]

Are you sure you sent it to the right person? :) Didn't get it yet.

got a phone call in the middle of typing should be there now....

[Dr. Sak]

Thank you

[Lathum]

For you bettors out there. Is it just me or is Wisconsin a 6 point home dog a crazy line?

[Vegas Vic]

Mississippi State +3 seems like the best bet to me.

[Celeval]

Mississippi State +3 seems like the best bet to me.

Funny, as I thought Vanderbilt -3 was pretty good. :popcorn:

[JonInMiddleGA]

Funny, as I thought Vanderbilt -3 was pretty good. :popcorn:

Kind of what I was thinking. Commies should roll over a bad MSU.

[GrantDawg]

Kind of what I was thinking. Commies should roll over a bad MSU.


Should is the operative word. Vandy is due for an upset at this point. Miss State is a good candidate to do it.

[GrantDawg]

Just as a follow up, here's my prediction of the Vandy season from here out. Vandy will win one, but only one, of these games (UGA, Florida, Tennessee, Wake Forest). Common sense would say Tennessee, but I think it might actually be Wake.

Vandy will lose at least one of these games (Miss State, Duke, Kentucky). Kentucky is the most likely loss, but Miss State wouldn't be a surprise.

Vandy has had a great season, the best they've had in 50 years. But they are still Vandy, and lack of depth will evetually kill them.

[Dr. Sak]

Pat White is out today for WVU.

[Noop]

Pat White is always hurt.

[hoopsguy]

Illini are now down 14-3 in early 2nd half, after giving the ball to Gophers inside the 10. Time to see if the offense can finish drives and the special teams can stop sucking so much.

Home loss to Minnesota would be pretty disappointing following a feel-good win at Michigan last Saturday.

[GrantDawg]

Texas is doing a great job hanging in there versus OU, but they haven't been able to take a lead the whole game. OU scores again for 28-20 lead.

[Izulde]

Is that a carnival they're having outside the stadium at Texas-OU? Pretty damn cool if it is. Just turned on the game.

[MJ4H]

It's like the Texas state fair I think. This game is always on during that thing.

[Izulde]

What a fun game this RRS is!

[MJ4H]

what the living hell was that call

[Galaxy]

Wasn't that a pick? Why didn't Stoops challenge it?

[GrantDawg]

Is that a carnival they're having outside the stadium at Texas-OU? Pretty damn cool if it is. Just turned on the game.


Yup, Texas State Fair every year with the game. This game really is a circus.

Texas finally goes up, but Colt nearly lost the opportunity with a pass that should hav been picked in the end-zone.

[GrantDawg]

Wasn't that a pick? Why didn't Stoops challenge it?

He never had possession. You can see it on the replay that wasn't even close.

[vex]

Bullshit

[BishopMVP]

Between these bs roughing the passer penalties and a non-review on that INT in the end zone, Oklahoma's D is getting shafted.

Side note - that LT/Polamalu Nike commercial using the Ennio Morricone music is epic.

[Galaxy]

He never had possession. You can see it on the replay that wasn't even close.

He had his hands on the ball going down, and it came out after he hit the ground.

[SirFozzie]

GD: Looked mighty close to me, but I didn't see it live

[SirFozzie]

OOOO.. that's huge

[Galaxy]

Man, the refs suck.

[BishopMVP]

I would say make-up call, but no, they've just sucked on "late hits" all game long.

[SirFozzie]

Block of the year on that big play.

[GrantDawg]

That was awesome on the 2 point play. Popped-up and still got it. Funny as hell.

[GrantDawg]

GD: Looked mighty close to me, but I didn't see it live


Live it looked like a catch, but when they showed the replay it looked like he was losing before he hit the ground.

[MJ4H]

I have no idea how you think he was losing it before he hit the ground.

[General Mike]

same old Rutgers

[GrantDawg]

I have no idea how you think he was losing it before he hit the ground.


Because the ball was loose before he hit the ground.

[Greyroofoo]

Is Toledo actually beating Michigan?

[GrantDawg]

Is Toledo actually beating Michigan?


Make that beat. Michigan is sad shell of what it was.

[BishopMVP]

Is Toledo actually beating Michigan?No, Toledo beat them.

Obligatory "New clock rules and their affect on end-game situations" talk in.... wait no Texas TD.

[Celeval]

Did Michigan just /miss/ the game-tying 26-yard FG try with no time left?!

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I miss Lloyd Carr. :(

[GrantDawg]

I miss Lloyd Carr. :(


LOL!!!

[MJ4H]

Because the ball was loose before he hit the ground.

Not on my screen.

[GrantDawg]

Not on my screen.


I'll let you borrow my TV then. :)

[cmp]

I miss Lloyd Carr. :(

I'm almost kind of depressed right now. That was horrible football to watch.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I'm almost kind of depressed right now. That was horrible football to watch.

I'm so used to being a Lions fan that I almost want to see Michigan bottom out to the point where they have to admit Rodriguez was a horrible mistake and talk Carr into finishing out the season. In reality, Wisconsin should have won & Michigan really didn't look that impressive against Miami, OH.

Michigan is lucky to be 2-4. They should be 1-5 and could have been 0-6.

Ditch-Rod!

[MizzouRah]

Wow.. Texas beats OU..

[cmp]

Michigan is lucky to be 2-4. They should be 1-5 and could have been 0-6.

Ditch-Rod!

They easily could be 0-6 right now. How long will hear excuses of losing because of having so many freshmen playing?

[Noop]

If I were a voter I might be putting Texas #1

[RedKingGold]

Watch out for Purdue over Ohio State in this game.

Wouldn't surprise me to see them pull a win out of their hats here.

EDIT: Of course, as soon as I post, OSU blocks a punt and returns it for a TD. ;)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

They easily could be 0-6 right now. How long will hear excuses of losing because of having so many freshmen playing?

They'll bring up that he doesn't have "his kind" of QB... Like next year with a true freshman at QB and a bunch more freshmen mixed in with the sophomores they will suddenly be a great, or even decent team.

Think of what this team would look like if McGuffie had not been talked out of transferring. (And how long will it take until he knows where he is at after that hit?)

[Noop]

Jimmy Clausen looks impressive.

[BishopMVP]

@Noop/Texas #1? - Even assuming Missouri and LSU don't look good tonight, do you jump the idle Alabama? Georgia probably isn't as good as OU, but Alabama smoked them @ Georgia.

Plus Noop, stop saying good things about ND. As soon as you do he throws 2 near pick-6's ;)

[MizzouRah]

If I were a voter I might be putting Texas #1

After today, I'm with you... but I do have Big 12 bias..

[BishopMVP]

But Clausen follows up with ND's favorite throw this year and hits the fade to Golden Tate. 7-0 ND.

[Noop]

@Noop/Texas #1? - Even assuming Missouri and LSU don't look good tonight, do you jump the idle Alabama? Georgia probably isn't as good as OU, but Alabama smoked them @ Georgia.

Plus Noop, stop saying good things about ND. As soon as you do he throws 2 near pick-6's ;)

OU is a very very good team and Texas not only came from behind to beat them but also maintained their poise in the process. After next week should Texas get pass Missouri their schedule doesn't really present any difficult road mines.

[MizzouRah]

If we get poast Ok St. tonight, going to Texas is going to be really, really rough.. espeically with their win today over OU.

[BishopMVP]

It'll be close. Assuming MU/LSU wins, all 4 teams should be getting #1 votes, and it sets up two great showdown games.

Only potentially bad scenario developing now is Oklahoma will now be sitting in the seat where they could easily jump ahead of one of the two Big12 champs into the BCS just because that team loses in the Championship game.

[MJ4H]

I have an SEC bias and an anti-Big 12 bias and I would put Texas #1 so far.

[GrantDawg]

I have an SEC bias and an anti-Big 12 bias and I would put Texas #1 so far.


Ditto.

[GrantDawg]

Can someone help me understand this? Tennessee got a defensive holding call on a fade route on a Third and goal. They marked off the penalty as 5 yards and still third down. Isn't defensive holding always an automatic first down?

[BishopMVP]

It's kind of funny and kind of sad how the announcers treat the Notre Dame kicker with open derision at this point, but he did just come through with a 42-yarder. 10-3 ND over UNC.

Georgia only up 13-0 on their cupcake opponent.
Miss St is up on Vandy 9-7 late 3rd.
TCU is actually down to CSU 7-6 in the 2nd, but they're driving.
And Ga Tech is actually having a hard time running on Gardner-Webb, up 10-0 near half.

[GrantDawg]

I hate the b-team CBS guys. They just showed the first year coaches records for this year, and they had the guy at Navy but didn't show Paul Johnson at GT? He has to be up for coach of the year right now. How do you miss him?

[Eaglesfan27]

Kevin Thomas with a nice pick 6 to put USC up 21-0 with 5 minutes left in the half.

[BishopMVP]

Golden Tate is a playmaker. Goes up and takes away the ball from a defender, turning an INT into a 47-yd completion to the UNC 9. ND, which has the worst red zone % in FBS, converts on a TD pass to Michael Floyd, the other great young WR we have. 17-6 ND.

Miss St now up 17-7 on Vandy.

[BishopMVP]

I hate the b-team CBS guys. They just showed the first year coaches records for this year, and they had the guy at Navy but didn't show Paul Johnson at GT? He has to be up for coach of the year right now. How do you miss him?Were they only showing coaches who were in their first year of FBS coaching maybe?

[GrantDawg]

Were they only showing coaches who were in their first year of FBS coaching maybe?


Nope. They include Nutt in the stats.

[GrantDawg]

Georgia only up 13-0 on their cupcake opponent.



Now UGA has only a six-point lead on the "cupcake." 13-7. And they lost yet another OL starter.

I'm still wondering how anyone that knows football would have had this team at number 1. We have a very mediocre O-line that now have lost two starters, and a very mediocre D-line that lost it's captain in the first game. The SEC media had it right when they said UGA would finish 3rd on their side of the conference. It would be really sad if they finshed third to Florida and Vandy.

[BishopMVP]

These announcers are brutal. They keep discussing whether ND's upman signaled fair catch or not.... it doesn't matter. He didn't get hit and he didn't catch the ball.

[BishopMVP]

Haha. UNC tries running a play with 5 seconds left instead of just attempting the FG and their QB takes a shot and runs into the tunnel with an injured shoulder. 17-9 ND at halftime.

Vandy got a TD back, down 17-14 in the 4th.
After all his talk, Ricky Jean-Francois out for tonights game vs. Florida

[Matthean]

They'll bring up that he doesn't have "his kind" of QB... Like next year with a true freshman at QB and a bunch more freshmen mixed in with the sophomores they will suddenly be a great, or even decent team.

Think of what this team would look like if McGuffie had not been talked out of transferring. (And how long will it take until he knows where he is at after that hit?)

People already bring up the fact that they lost so much talent, but yet USC lost a ton more and everybody expects them to be good. Michigan has lost this kind of talent before and yet they could at least put a 7 win season together. Toledo was one of the wins I was looking at if they were to get 4. With PSU and MSU up next and OSU still lurking, we can pretty much assume an under .500 seaon is in the making.

He has to bring in a stellar class and if it includes a new QB, he'll get a grace period of a year with the hope of the turn around happening. After that, I don't think even 8 wins is going to be deemed acceptable.

[tarcone]

I'm so used to being a Lions fan that I almost want to see Michigan bottom out to the point where they have to admit Rodriguez was a horrible mistake and talk Carr into finishing out the season. In reality, Wisconsin should have won & Michigan really didn't look that impressive against Miami, OH.

Michigan is lucky to be 2-4. They should be 1-5 and could have been 0-6.

Ditch-Rod!

Coaches know when they are going to retire and the talent is thin when they do. Give Rodriguez a few seasons to recruit.

[cmp]

He has to bring in a stellar class and if it includes a new QB, he'll get a grace period of a year with the hope of the turn around happening. After that, I don't think even 8 wins is going to be deemed acceptable.

He's bringing in a solid class with includes a couple QB's so next year will probably be another year of a freshmen QB.

[tarcone]

Iowa spanks Indiana 45-9. Thank goodness.
I want to see Missouri and Alabama play before I make Texas #1. If Missouri goes into Okla St. and puts up another 56-10 score. They are #1 regardless of what Alabama does. Texas is #2 at that point. I think Alabama is #3.

[TazFTW]

TTech and Nebraska are in OT. Tech scores a TD but the XP is blocked.


[edit]Nebraska gets intercepted and TTech wins

[GrantDawg]

Vandy goes down, and UGA's trying to go with them.

[flounder]

Georgia Tech blocks a 44 yard field goal that would have tied it with 9 seconds to go and holds on to win 10-7. What an ugly game for Tech.

[digamma]

Jackets hold on to beat Gardner Webb 10-7. Playing their 3rd and 4th string quarterback, they couldn't get anything going offensively. I think they only had 2 first downs in the second half.

[SirFozzie]

North Carolina wil beat ND, but it was a good game, ND's no patsies this year

[larrymcg421]

What an incredibly bad call in the NC-ND game.

[Noop]

UNC got hosed I can not believe the refs reversed the call.

[Izulde]

Apparently it's 13-10 Auburn at the start of the second half. Auburn's offense still sucks even after firing their OC. :D

Unfortunately, the damn game's a PPV and so blocked out on ESPN360

MJ4H did you get the PPV or is anybody watching it on 360?

[VPI97]

What an incredibly bad call in the NC-ND game.
That was one the worst calls I've seen in a long, long time.

[larrymcg421]

Crazy ending here. If the officials call this one for ND, this game is going to be really suspect.

[VPI97]

If they a) don't rule this as a fumble and b) give Notre Dame a final offensive play, this game will go down as one of the worst officiated games in NCAA history.

[Noop]

These refs are idiots.

[Dr. Sak]

I want to beat the shit out of Bob Griese and Paul McGuire.

[larrymcg421]

Hurricanes in trouble against UCF. Theyre up 20-14 but UCF has the ball at midfield with 3:22 left.

I know this is a young team and we're supposed to be giving Randy time to rebuild, but I'm not going to have much confidence in him if they lose this one.

[mckerney]

I miss Lloyd Carr. :(

As a Gopher fan I really think you'll be ok. I didn't think they'd be as bad as they were last year, and I really didn't think they had any chance of starting 6-1 this year. Brewster didn't have anywhere near the overall talent that Rich Rod does or the same draw for talent that Michigan has. Honestly I see Michigan being the class of the Big Ten in the next few years.

As for todays game, great win over Illinois for the Gophers. With a roster that only has 2 good options at CB, I knew there would be problems containing the passing game. They made some great plays on D to keep Illinois to 20 with as many yards as they gained. Couldn't have won without the things the defense did, especially with how well the Illini managed to keep Decker in check. Will be interesting to see how the rest plays out from here, 6-1 and this was by far the best team on the 2nd half of their schedule. To come up with a road win shows how incredibly far Brewster has brought them from last year.

[Lathum]

Florida strikes quickly

[Izulde]

Am I reading that right?

Arkansas just beat Auburn 25-22?!

[Dr. Sak]

Oklahoma State up 7-3 on Missouri.

[Dr. Sak]

Missouri goes 3 and out for the first time this year.

[Dr. Sak]

Touchdown Penn State 10-0 on Wisconsin.

[Tigercat]

Why is Danielson for CBS talking smack this entire game about LSU? We suck right now, just saying that would be no big deal. But what he is doing tonight is ridiculous. (And random? I really want to know what he is up to, did an LSU coach snub him for an interview?)

But yea, LSU *might* not be so good this year, we are really missing Pellini and Matt Flynn.

[Dr. Sak]

D Will to the House!!! 17-0 PSU!!

[Swaggs]

Oklahoma State looks much better than I expected.

[MacroGuru]

BYU wins against a UNM team with attitude 21 - 3. Our poison is mobile QBs, I am actually scared to play Air Force now more than any other team on our schedule (Yes even Utah) after watching us get slaughtered by Mobile QB's this season.

Max Hall played a very efficent game discecting the UNM defense when he threw it. They had a corner that made 3 amazing plays or this game would have been blown open quick.

Utah stomped a very poor Wyoming team 40 - 7.

[RedKingGold]

Penn State now up 24-7. I don't know whether to be happy with the PSU defense, or disappointed with the PSU offense at this point.

[RedKingGold]

There's the Penn State offense I'm used to seeing. March right down the field.

31-7 PSU

[Dr. Sak]

Okay I finally believe that Penn State is good. 31-7

[Dr. Sak]

Touchdown Cowboys! 14-10

[JonInMiddleGA]

Jackets hold on to beat Gardner Webb 10-7. Playing their 3rd and 4th string quarterback, they couldn't get anything going offensively. I think they only had 2 first downs in the second half.

That had to be the ugliest offensive performance I've seen (minus 1 play) in my 41+ years of breathing air.

The offensive line was just that - offensive - I don't know whether we decided to play the 3rd & 4th string there too or if they don't like Booker or what, but they didn't show up all day. Yeah, Booker looked to have about as much business trying to run the option as I would have but he got zero help from anybody on his unit except for Dwyer's catch-and-run.

The defense showed up for work & then some, thank God. About the only bright side from this near debacle might be that Clemson certainly won't get much help from studying the game film. If they watch this, they'll be so busy laughing that it might actually do them harm.

Meanwhile, props to Vegas Vic and (I think it was) GrantDawg who called the Vandy loss ahead of time. I wouldn't have believed it, not for a second, which is why I don't bet college football.

[Dr. Sak]

38-7 PSU...turn out the lights...the party is over in Madison.

[RedKingGold]

This Penn State team is good enough to challenge for a national title.

There, I said it. Now I'll go run for the hills.

[terpkristin]

Side note - that LT/Polamalu Nike commercial using the Ennio Morricone music is epic.

Just saw it. That's a great ad.

/tk

[JonInMiddleGA]

re: Mizzou game -- what the hell sort of pass was that? Looked like Calvin Booker throwing it up for grabs against G-W.

[Dr. Sak]

Touchdown Oklahoma State 28-17

[Cuckoo]

Wow... I thought OSU was a pretty darn good team, but I never would've guessed they could do this.

[Vegas Vic]

MBBF's "best team in the Big XII" is losing at home 28-17 late in the 4th quarter to the fourth best team in the Big XII south.

[Swaggs]

I'm really impressed with Oklahoma State and Mizzou.

I usually rate the SEC well above the other conferences, but the Big 12 looks like it is clearly the best this season.

[Swaggs]

So, who are the front runners in the Heisman race now?

[Dr. Sak]

I just wanted to bring this up...

I'm amazed that a game between the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the Big 12 warrants its own thread.


I agree that OU and UT fans should get back to bashing each other. Someone has to take the mantle of '1st Loser' in this conference.

I thought this was a trash talking thread.

FWIW......OU and MU are pretty much on par at this point. Texas is a small step behind, but they're still awfully good and could make the Sooner faithful fall into a deep depression with a win.

[Dr. Sak]

If Chase was 2 inches taller...he might have not thrown that last pick.

[Vegas Vic]

So, who are the front runners in the Heisman race now?

Probably Colt McCoy.

[Dr. Sak]

For you bettors out there. Is it just me or is Wisconsin a 6 point home dog a crazy line?

I hope no one took your advice :)

[Noop]

MBBF has made a fool of himself with those asinine comments.

[Swaggs]

stupid call there... should've taken the safety and free kick.

[ISiddiqui]

Wow... this Florida team is looking impressive tonight. :eek:

[Galaxy]

Amazing that the Cowboys are coach by the "I'm a Man, I'm 40!" guy.

[Dr. Sak]

MBBF can tell us how his foot and crow tastes.

[Vegas Vic]

Wow... this Florida team is looking impressive tonight. :eek:

It will be interesting to see where they are ranked tomorrow. They lost at home to an unranked team, then blew out the #3 ranked team in the country.

[Vegas Vic]

I'm really impressed with Oklahoma State and Mizzou.

I usually rate the SEC well above the other conferences, but the Big 12 looks like it is clearly the best this season.

Forget the arguments about which conference is better, look at the Big XII South division right now. It's sick. When the polls come out tomorrow, there will be four teams from that division in the top 12.

[tarcone]

Big weekend. If anyone has missed Missouri play, watch them. They are my favorites to win the national championship. They are so fast on offense and Daniels just doesnt miss. They are fun to watch.

Please disregard above post.

Man I wish there was playoff. This season is the year we will really wish there was one.

[Doug5984]

Well kind of saw this one coming with LSU- they were not playing great, and beat a sub-par auburn team. QB position is to weak to come from behind, and offense was vanilla... oh well, always next year.

Have to beat Bama next week though

[MJ4H]

Yes Izulde, you saw correctly. I did order the PPV but had to record it and watch it after I got home from a fundraiser tonight. Just finished blasting through the recording and can safely say that game should've been nowhere near a 3 point game. Arkansas should've won by 30. I didn't see the stats at the end, but the total yards have to have been something like 500 to 150 or so. Only repeated silly mistakes and miracles by Auburn kept them in the game. Once we stop giving gifts like that we are going to be a good team. When we upgrade the talent significantly over the next few years, we will be very good. I'm extremely excited.

And Michael Smith is amazing.

[Lathum]

Still waiting for MBBF to post.

[JeeberD]

The Miners pulled off another win, 24-21 against Tulane, to get back to .500 after starting the season 0-3. The defense was horrible in the first half, but shut the Wave out in the second. QB Trevor Vittatoe was sharp, and RB Donald Buckram had his first career 100 yard game, all against statistically the league's best defense...

[GrantDawg]

I'm really impressed with Oklahoma State and Mizzou.

I usually rate the SEC well above the other conferences, but the Big 12 looks like it is clearly the best this season.


I have to agree. This year, the Big 12 is deep and the big powers of the SEC have some deficiencies.

[GrantDawg]

If Chase was 2 inches taller...he might have not thrown that last pick.


If Chase was 2 inches taller, he could see over the counter at the 7-11. :)

[CU Tiger]

Y I didn't see the stats at the end, but the total yards have to have been something like 500 to 150 or so.


Close 416-193

[MizzouRah]

I tip my cap to Ok St.. I had no idea they were that good.

Shocks me Chase threw that INT at the end of the game. What a bummer... :(

[kcchief19]

I'm still going through all the stages of grief from last night's game ... it took me until well after midnight before I could finally summon the motivation to drive back to KC.

It was disappointing to see Missouri make so many mistakes but we didn't beat ourselves -- OSU won the game, and they are a fine football team. I don't think last night was a fluke, and I believe they may well be on or near the tier with OU, Texas and MU. OSU won the line of scrimmage -- they ran well, stopped our run and pressured Chase while we didn't get sustained pressure on Robinson. However, it was a close game that hinged on any number of plays that could gone either direction and most of those plays went OSU's way.

I would not have said MU was the best team in the Big 12 heading into last night -- in my book it's OU until somebody supplants them. If Texas beats us next weekend, I'll put Texas at the head of the Big 12.

What perplexes me about MU is the pass defense. We lost one senior off the team that finished the season last year and I just don't think Terrell is the difference. No doubt William Moore is having a horrible season compared to last year, but so is the entire defensive backfield. I have no idea how both the corner and saftey both blew coverage on Davis' first TD catch. Maybe the pass defense was this bad last year but simply no one realized it and took the shots downfield. Ever since Illinois beat us with corner routes and fades in week one, everyone has been challenging us deep and hitting them.

I'm still stuck on the fourth-and-goal inside the one on the first drive ... a year ago, Pinkle goes for that TD, and if we get it I think we win the game. But Pinkle is "too nice" -- he's worried about running up scores and I think he passed on the TD because he thought MU was going to put 52 on OSU. It was classic overconfidence. I hope he gets over it quickly.

We'll see what happens in Austin. If we run the table, we can still get in the title picture with some help from the SEC and Big 10 and some dog knocking off USC again.

[Vegas Vic]

I would not have said MU was the best team in the Big 12 heading into last night -- in my book it's OU until somebody supplants them. If Texas beats us next weekend, I'll put Texas at the head of the Big 12.

Texas beat OU, so they're the best team in the Big XII right now. They deserve that respect, and they've earned it. It's not easy to attain the #1 ranking, and they are going to find out that staying ranked #1 is even tougher than getting there.

[MizzouRah]

I know how you feel kcchief.. I had friends over and they all started playing rock band after the game and I went to bed.

That first drive, I could not believe Pinkel doesn't go for the TD.

We miss Pig Brown, no doubt about it.

As much as I love Mizzou.. I don't think we'll go into Texas and beat a team that looks like they are playing like a #1. Who knows though..

[Butter]

I'm still stuck on the fourth-and-goal inside the one on the first drive ... a year ago, Pinkle goes for that TD, and if we get it I think we win the game. But Pinkle is "too nice" -- he's worried about running up scores and I think he passed on the TD because he thought MU was going to put 52 on OSU. It was classic overconfidence. I hope he gets over it quickly.

There's no way that's the reason he didn't go for the TD.

[Butter]

Well kind of saw this one coming with LSU- they were not playing great, and beat a sub-par auburn team. QB position is to weak to come from behind, and offense was vanilla... oh well, always next year.

Have to beat Bama next week though

SEC is definitely overrated again this year. Maybe they have a couple of top teams, but LSU was way overrated, and Florida moving up to 4th is a joke.

[CU Tiger]

5PM EST press conference.
Bowden Fired

Dabo Sweeney interim coach for remainder of season.

[CU Tiger]

wild ass speculation ;)

;)

[MizzouRah]

There's no way that's the reason he didn't go for the TD.

Sure there is and most every sports talk radio host is speculating the same thing.

[cartman]

If a coach is worried about running up the score on their first drive, that is a sign that they took the preparation for the upcoming game way too lightly.

[Butter]

Definitely.

[JHandley]

It's an accepted practice (from both sides of a blowout) that anything goes in the first half. There is simply no way that Pinkel is that stupid to allow for that much overconfidence. You can't build a program being worried about the other teams feelings on the first drive of the game.

It is far more likely that he tightened up because now he has something to lose. When Mizzou was trying to make a name for themselves, going for it in that situation is how you do it. When you've made a name for yourself, kicking it is how you keep it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Still waiting for MBBF to post.

I'm guessing you missed the fact that I already posted that I would be in Vegas all weekend. You'll accept my apology that I didn't geek out badly enough to track down a computer at the Venetian to satisfy your need for my post. :)

Certainly, nothing I said was incorrect in the posts that I made. I stated that Mizzou's defense was not as bad as people made it out to be, especially the silly claims from Vegas Vic. I said that we should beat just about anyone if we held a team under 30 points. We held a very good team under 30 points on Saturday. Unfortunately, Chase just totally lost his head. That doesn't happen very often, yet it happened multiple times on Saturday. Take it for what it's worth. It sucks that if he would have just tossed any of those 3 interceptions out of bounds like he should have, we would have likely won.

With that said, this season is setting up remarkably similar to last year IF Mizzou can beat Texas next week. We have a very easy schedule after this next game down the home stretch and have the B12 Championship in our backyard. Mizzou still has a very good chance at getting to the National Championship thanks to the strength of the Big 12 conference and the relative weakness of the North teams.

[Noop]

So you went from Mizzou being better then OU and Texas to IF they can beat Texas?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

So you went from Mizzou being better then OU and Texas to IF they can beat Texas?

It's my attempt at modesty in order to pacify Vegas Vic's need to slam anyone with a whiff of confidence.